e e e e face of flag I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and the for it stands na God
indivisible andice for we're going to have Pastor Paul uh come up and do the invocation will you pray with me oh God we come to you today asking for your guidance wisdom and support as we begin this meeting help those
entrusted with leadership here to engage in meaningful discussion allow them to grow closer as a group and nurture the bonds of community community in this place fill them with your grace Lord God as they make decisions that will affect this community and all who call Coco
Beach home and all who come as our guests continue to remind that these leaders and all who will speak that all that they do here today all that they will accomplish is for the well-being of all you have entrusted to us first and for the service of all we ask these
things in your most holy name amen amen [Music] city clerk roll call commissioner Jackson here commissioner Williams here commissioner Willis here vice mayor
Hutcherson here mayor capy here I get a motion approval for the agenda to approve the agenda second motion second for the agenda all in favor I all right motion passes
5 uh any public comment about items that are not on the agenda all right staff reports and announcements um okay I have um our employee that we're going to um recognize this evening
and um I don't want anybody blurting out his name so I'm going to give a little bit of a background on him um uh actually she went to uh USF she graduated with a civil engineering degree and um she's our engineer in
training and her name is Morgan zki and she's doing a terrific job she uh is our storm water manager now and she's very interested in storm water uh she's probably one of the smartest
Engineers that I've run into in my numerous years of life here so far um and she's the Next Generation in the city she likes it here we want to keep her here and um so she's our employee of
this meeting come on out Morgan here's a little present for you thank you I want you say a couple words okay thank you Wayne for this I really appreciate it I've loved working at the city so far I feel like I've learned a lot um through my experience and have
just really en enjoyed it thank you that's all I okay thank you and thank you Morgan um City attorney reports nothing tonight thank you all right City commission reports for announcements all right roll
oh you guys um look at these two pieces of paper that I had car and print for you um as part of my job on the Space Coast Transportation Planning
organization you know we've always known we needed to raise the causeway from Coco Beach to Meritt Island on 520 due to flooding issues and do take won't take much of a big storm to wash half of that Causeway
out I uh you know emphasize the part where once they move the hospital we won't be able to get to uh Hospital in a timely manner unless we can get across that stretcher Road
uh this is from their long range planning and um last year we didn't even make the list this year we number three and if you look on the this page um number three there in the second
section it's a a vulnerability analysis the planning uh portion is funded in fiscal year 2024 it's already ongoing and the uh funded phase cost was uh just shy of
$3,000 and once they get that uh funded phase done then we'll work it up through the priorities to actually get the work done and it it ain't going to happen in the next two or three years but this is the
only way to move it up it is a state road it won't cost City any money but we do have to be advocates for things that help our community not only us but actually Cape Canaveral because it is a hurricane
evacuation route too I just wanted to point that out thank you any other commission reports good all right moving along um consent agenda okay this is the consent agenda
item one approve the June 20th meeting minutes staff representative city clerk item two approv kimly horn and Associates task order number five for a Minutemen Causeway Shor Aline stabilization design permitting and bidding services in the amount of
$88,700 contract agreement for street sweeping Services provided by sweeping Corporation of America LLC a subsidiary of sweep America intermediate Holdings LLC the street sweeping services are required by the city's National Po and
discharge elimination system MPD permit this is a budgeted item staff representative Morgan Zuli storm water management um item four approve $60,000 arpa funds for pain Fire Station
51 staff representative Morgan Zuli storm water utility manager move to approve the consent agenda is read second got a motion and second all in favor I I all opposed motion passes
5vo um unfinished business okay item one approve the recommendation to promote West Mullins to police chief for the city of coka beach per chapter 2 Article 1 Section 2.5 police Department of the city of coka beach code of ordinances
staff representative Wayne kajino city manager okay um so just a little um background on why I selected um Wes I've been working with Wes for a little bit over eight months now
and known him much much longer than that um so the charter says that the city manager shall select the um the police chief and the reason for that is that I'm in the position to work with him on
a daily basis um I'm the one that evaluates his performance um and we have kind of a Unity together so um it makes sense that I would make that selection as opposed to you guys not knocking anybody but you
know I'm I'm in that position um Wes has done a great job you know the city's been through a lot in the last um eight or n months um transition and change and um some rough times and West
brought calm to the department he brought Unity to the department um he brought um respect to everyone and everyone respects him and um I just think he's done a great job putting all that
stuff behind us and so have so has the commission for that matter um so we've we've looked forward in my eyes and um so I want to keep that going and um I mean I just think he's the perfect
choice for the job and um I wouldn't put my neck out for anybody but him for that position and um I hope you guys agree with me thank you uh I'll piggy back on that I I mean in the beginning obviously I had my
doubts um so I've been watching him and I've been talking to the officers and I've probably personally talked to at least 20 plus officers about West and it's been overwhelmingly um you know they were saying that the they've been running as
smooth as ever um you know the the respect is there um so for me you know I think it's a no-brainer that he's been doing the job he's been doing an excellent job at it um so I I agree with
you I I think there's the the main thing that that I hear from from the police is they want stability and it's time to give them stability you know it's time to give them something that that they are comfortable with that they know we don't need to in my opinion go out and
try to find somebody else that they don't know that they got to learn again uh so I think it's just the logical choice so thank you so another thing too um cuz I'm doing off the cup here but the one thing that galvanized my decision was when we had that popup
party and within 48 Hours um we had to react to that which had a tremendous potential craziness to occur here in the city um and West organized the whole response to that I've never seen
anything like that in my life honestly I mean I just was absolutely amazed in in his performance on that there you you could not have done any better and you guys back there know what I'm talking about CU you were all there um
so I mean I just wanted to kick that in there so thank you uh is there any any public comment all right any any commission comment yeah well I think we need a motion so um I felt a little
bit you know with all that went on I felt a little bit that you know we owed it to actually go out for a search but you know I have no problem with Wes
and the job he's doing but um due to other circumstances which are now basically a mute point I mean the city manager put out this on the agenda saying he's making the re recommendation um should we say we
wanted to put it out and see if anybody applied who in their right mind to had any caliber would apply knowing that they could go through the motions and it's still Wayne's choice and he'd still probably pick way Wes so I'll make a
motion to approve the recommendation to promote West Mullin to police chief for the city of Coco Beach second motion a second all in favor I I all opposed motion passes 5 congratulations
and the crowd went wild where's the balloon drop let me be the first to call you doesn't want to say anything tonight but he'll be backk you thank you Wes God feel all all but one of you guys can go
back to work all right uh let's see uh item item two okay this is this is unfinished business item two adopt ordinance 1691 on second reading an ordinance of the city of Coco Beach Florida related to the vacation of a
portion of McNab Parkway RightWay approximately 60 ft long by 3 ft wide more particularly described here in making findings in providing for conflict severability non- codification and effective date staff representative Randy Stevenson director of development
services move to approve um and adopt ordinance 1691 on the second reading got a motion in a second um yeah I'll just speak up on this this just makes sense if you know the area and what it is it's it's really
just um it's it's just needs to be in order to to make this certain section work for somebody and the city is absolutely not going to be using it for anything so um I'm in favor of this is there any public comment on
this okay any commission comment all right all in favor all opposed oh roll call sorry commissioner Jackson I commissioner Williams I commissioner Willis hi vice
mayor huton hi mayor cap hi all right um item next next item J1 okay this is new business um item one adopt resolution
20247 a resolution of the city Commission of the city of Coco Beach Florida amending resolution soy rates reuse charges in providing for amendment of fees incorporation of recitals and providing for an effective date staff recommends reuse charges
remain at the current rate for fiscal year 2025 as opposed to the 20% increased approved in resolution 20236 staff representative Brad czo director of Water Reclamation and Public
Works recommendation adopt would adopt second got a motion and second to adopt any public comment all right um all in favor I I
all opposed motion passes 5 uh next item okay this is um new business item two discuss and present storm waterer rate study staff representative Morgan Zuli storm water utility manager
[Applause] Morgan zi stormwater utility manager tonight we have RF Tellis per Performing or they performed the rate study and they are here to give the presentation we have Henry and Michelle here to
present okay good evening mayor members Commissioners uh my name is Henry Thomas I'm a vice president with ref Talis financial consultants we're utility uh rate and financial firm uh practicing uh
throughout the United States but we have a significant practice right here in Central Florida and I've worked with you uh in fact prepared the last storm water rate study that was done a number of years ago for the city uh again with me tonight is Michelle Galvin Michelle was
the lead investigator on this study so I'm going to let her go through a lot of the details but I would like to start by thanking the city staff for all the help they gave us in in uh getting this study done and I want to uh second the city
manager's comment about Morgan she was uh uh I want to really Point her out as someone that really helped guide us through this process and she did a great job and helped us pull this together uh so that we could be here tonight and share it with you
so basically our our Focus after we began the study and got into more of the details and information we realized that the focus we wanted to look at was for the next three years primarily and and
uh there's I'll get into the reasoning why that is but uh basically you haven't had a rate adjustment since 20121 okay and as of budget year 2024 the RO the the the operating
expenses alone in the stormwater utility system are outpacing the revenues so in but in balancing your budget for 2024 you relied on reserves to accomplish that and we all know that's not a sustainable thing particularly in
Enterprise funds where we lean on reserves uh too long uh to meet our our ongoing costs so in addition to that you've got um a master plan that you've prepared it has a number of projects in
it uh they're aimed largely to deal with drainage issues and water quality issues uh they're in some respects driven by regulatory requirements and needs of the storm water system and
over the next decade they're going to be significant but because of the inflation we've seen in recent years in operating expenses but particularly in uh the cost of Capital Construction for projects we
didn't want to try to push too far into the future because we're not sure where these costs may be in a few years moreover there's still grant opportunities in in the storm water area that you can pursue to help fund some of these things so we focused on a
three-year rate plan which one will bring the system uh create a viable utility so that we're we we kind of balance things out and and play a little catchup and get uh the rate sufficient to recover operations as well as the
next couple of years of capital needs and then with with the with time we'll we'll we'll want to recommend that you probably look at these things again look at your funding sources hopefully we can get some more grants than what we've been able to identified today and have a
more meaningful plan for the future after the next three years that really encompasses those master plan needs that you've identified so uh I'm going to ask Michelle to come up she's going to go through the uh the key factors that we considered in in uh in examining your
storm water Enterprise and uh again she put together the F along with Morgan she put together the financial plan and the rate recommendations and feel free to stop any time stop us any time and ask questions but also at the end we'll be
happy to answer any questions you have thank you good evening uh Michelle Galvin with Rob Tellis and as Henry mentioned I'll be going through some of the uh process behind the storm water rate study our
major assumptions and then the rate recommendations so as part of our study we developed a financial forecast that uh reviewed historical Trends and projected the revenues and revenue requirements through fiscal year 2026 uh we also developed a funding
strategy for the CIP over the next three years that kept the 2024 strategic plan in mind we evaluated the cash Reserve Targets in the debt coverage requirements all to determine the adequacy of the existing
rates the major goals and considerations for the study include developing a plan to remote the long-term Financial sustainability of the system to meet the 2024 strategic plan maintain utility cash reserves fulfill all debt service
requirements and achieve a p positive Cash Flow by 2026 so the storm water system currently serves about 9,400 accounts or about 8,400 erus and currently charges a monthly fee of
$8.9 per eru so single family homes are assessed on one eru basis multif family get half an eru per dwelling unit and non-residential is based on the impervious area an impervious area is any artificial structures that keep water from absorb abbing into the
grounds and cause water runoff so things like roofs Pavilion driveways parking lots that kind of thing uh we did assume about a 2% growth um in accounts through uh 2026 or about
170 erus per year and with that growth we are assuming that the revenues at existing rates will increase from about $900,000 to about $940,000 over the next 3 years and we also considered some of the miscellaneous revenues and interest
income that the system [Applause] collects so the operating expenses is based on the adopted 2024 budget and we use various escalation factors um to get and assume that the omm is expected to
increase from about $1.13 million to $1.25 Million by 2026 we also are seeing in the next 3 years the Capital Blank is assuming about $4 million worth of projects um and the city does have one existing storm water srf loan that's about
$65,000 a year so you can see if the existing revenues are about $900,000 that is under the 1.13 of just the operating cost so as Henry mentioned the existing reserves are being used right now to pay for the difference and that
will continue without any rate adjustments so the storm water system has a total 5year CIP of about $14.8 million and as Henry mentioned we're just focusing on the next 3 years so that's about $4 million and we listed some of the major
projects here with the largest one being the cedar Woodland projects at about $9.5 million and right now we're only including about $1 million of that but we are assuming in the future an srf loan will probably be needed to cover that and with the rate adjustments that
will cover the ability to get good interest rates and to uh apply for the srf loan and these projects are necessary to meet the Strategic goals of reducing the annual nutrient loading to the Banana River lagon Lagoon and also reducing the number of flood events
throughout the city so the next several slides show some examples of different flooding events that have happened throughout the city recently um and the CIP is designed to improve the infrastructure of the city to reduce the number of these flood
events and even when the flood events happen uh in order to bounce back faster from them so this is showing the CIP funding plan over the next 3 years and you can see with the green bars the city has
managed to uh get significant grant funding for a lot of this projects which is reducing the burden that falls onto the rate payer but going into the future there's still obligations for the CIP and you can see in the yellow bar that is the first
portion of the proposed uh srf loan for that big $9.5 million project and this is showing the revenue sufficiency at the existing rates so the pink red bar is showing your existing revenues and you can see uh at no point
is it higher than the O andm cost so throughout the forecast um the revenues are not sufficient to pay for o andm or the debt service and there is no additional money for the capital Improvement projects so we are recommending a phase
in rate plan so we have three different uh rate adjustments here first one to be established August 1st 2024 again in January 1st 2025 and then the third one in October 1st 2025 okay can you go back to that
slide so the existing rate and this is $ 2023 right 8.96 in 3 years been more than do no it's
2025 that's what I said that's $23 in 3 years it's going to go from currently 896 to 1966 which is 100% increase in 3 years it says October 2025
that's one year it's one year Oh I thought it was oh when you said phased I thought it was year after year so in we're going to double it in one year double it in one year yes uh cuz right now the revenues are not uh sufficient to just meet
operating costs is it because of all of our slip lining and all that stuff that we're doing I'm sorry is it because of all the slip lining and all that or I think Morgan can answer that question better no for the slip lining we used
arpa money for that so that was not included in this that was included as grant money so what what's the rising why why do we have such Rising costs compared to you know previous years where we were
okay with it mainly our CIP projects um for example the cedar Witham bravard for just construction alone will be over $9 million and just other projects to meet our goals of reducing um the nutrients
in the water and flood events so these huge projects are just causing everything to go up we were hoping to get uh grants for a lot of that and that wasn't going that's not going through I suppose at this point as of right now no we applied for multiple grants last year
did not receive any and I've actively um applying for more now so hopefully we get them um and then we'll probably have to go to srf loans as well if we if we frontload this and we pay for it ourselves do can we use the
grants in the future to pay off what we did or is that you have to do it okay so you approached the soral folks about this yes we do have you're trying it sounds like it's being sold on it's going to reduce runoff and increase
water quality in the Banana River Lagoon yes so for example MCN and then our ramp Road Project we have soral funds for both of those but soral funds are based on how much nitrogen and phosphorus you're moving from your water
so that's like the price they give you so the grants are not that much for those projects so the other thing I'd mention is um when the water is really high mhm and we
get 6 in of rain there streets that are going to flood no matter what we do with storm water projects because it's the river flowing over the road a couple of those pictures were the river was higher than
the streets right so it's kind of a you know they're using that to sell when there's absolutely nothing you can do about that if for example for one of those the McNab project that's currently under construction um the sea wall we raised it up so now it's not at the
Lagoon level previous ly it was um at Lagoon level so it was causing the street to flood but now with the raised um seaw wall that street I'm talking about the street off of the Second Street North that goes out to
Indian Creek Indian Creek that that will you can't do anything about that and that's not I mean it's not on this list because really you can't do anything about it but so even if the water is high like even Woodland okay if the
water's high in the river and it goes above the outflow pipe and there's more head pressure in the river to to backload the water trying to go in it it's not going to ever go anywhere yeah so for that
project um we are hoping to go out to bid soon for that and one thing would be um adding a backflow preventer at the end of that outfall so that would be something in design phase that we are looking at that would help with the check that only lets water go into the
river and let water come back in correct sounds like a closing prod can you guys explain how this was calculated sum summary wise and like then we can very good point with Mother Nature and Rain events will never eliminate all
the drainage flooding issues what we what most of our Engineering in storm water is trying to do is make the system recover quicker and part of that is that it has to be maintained properly so that the inlets and the facilities within the
system operate as they're intended and and and make improvements to mitigate to the extent possible those drainage is issues and again hopefully when there is an event where there's water that's uh flooding situation that it dis Ates more
quickly than if we made no improvements so you know you can you can live with what your current situation is or you can work to improve it but you're absolutely right there's no intent to totally eliminate it that's that's that's not going to work but the issue
is what's driving these rates is that operations and maintenance expense that's your salaries your equipment uh you know your your your fuel cost your your your basic operating expenses used
to maintain the system are currently budgeted significantly above what the revenues are without any of these Capital Improvements being done so yes this is a large increase I can tell you that in the last five years I've done
more storm water studies than I did I've done this for 40 years now and I've done more storm water studies in Florida in the last five than I did in the first 35 of my career everybody's kind of behind the eightball on this because nobody wanted to fund these things in the past
but with all the storms we've been having everybody's having to to to to own up to it moreover it's become a lot more regulated than it was so D and the state and the regulations with respect to water quality and nutrient loadings we're having to deal with all that now
so what you're seeing here while it's significant is going to be very significant in other communities as well uh recently the city of Palm Coast went to a rate that's going to be over $40 a month over the next 5 years so this is
not this is UN unusual compared to where you've been in the past but when you go forward and look around in the State of Florida and what's going to have to happen to make these improvements these rates will not be out of line okay but the key here is if we don't do anything
we can't fund any of the capital projects you're right we're trying to pursue grants and to the extent we can get more grants because believe me there's projects beyond the those in the next 5 years there's more to come so any grants we can get that we can focus on
those projects are going to be very helpful and that's why we decided to not try to give you a picture of where we think rates are going to be in 5 to 10 years because one we're not sure what the construction costs are going to be and two we'd like the the time to pursue
more Grand opportunities to try to mitigate the impacts on the on your citizens but this is you know another important part of this is we need to get the rates sufficient so that we can go to srf and get these low interest Lo loans because if the rates aren't
sufficient they're not not going to loan you the money and the rates need to be adopted in advance of those loans so that they have some insurance they'll be paid back so it's not a good thing to have to tell you tonight these kind of increases but you again what you're
doing Now isn't sustainable and the way you got through 2024 and you're right this isn't a a three-year period this is three fairly you know uh we could have come to you and said let's do it all today but we wanted to spread it out as
much as possible but get it in ahead of needing to borrow from srf so we could demonstrate the ability to repay the loans to them and and uh so there was some thought that went into this strategy but again we're trying to focus
on getting the rates to a level where you're back into a where the Enterprise fund is sound right now the Enterprise fund is not going to sustain itself if you keep going this way um so at what point did we get behind behind um the
rate schedule well I think one of the things I we I said at the outset is the last time you increase rates was 2021 okay so there's a number of years where we could have made made more incremental rate adjustments to get closer to where we need to be and maybe
dealt with some of these Capital needs with that money and instead without raising the rates I believe what's happened is a lot of the capital needs have been deferred and haven't been dealt with and and and on top of that we haven't kept up with the inflation and operating expenses because you know
we're we're we have wage increases our cost of materials and supplies are going up and all that yet the rates have stayed the same since 2021 understand so in 2021 were we were we neutral or were we still at a deficit I I I did the last
study and and we our intent was to not be was to to balance the budget if you will in that study but I did not go back and look specifically at the starting point but I would suspect that we probably should have been even
ahead of 2021 with some increases given where they're headed and and but part of the issue here keep in mind is some of this we had to to do the analysis so you prepared a master plan okay and that master plan is the guide going forward the other thing that's happened in
recent years is all these regulations on nutrient loading and all that some of this was a few years ago it was being discussed but it wasn't as definitive as it is today so with storm water the business requirements are ever evolving
and it's driven by regulation and the need for Capital and you know I've got clients that can't find contractors when they want to bid projects right now it's it's it keeps me up awake at night because I have to make rate
recommendations but you know I've got a number of clients that the B the the bids are coming in at twice what they thought they would and that's just been the reality in recent years so part of it is we may have been okay in 20 are close but things have kind of gotten out
of hand with respect to Capital Construction costs so this last year was the first year that we were really over excuse me this last year was the first year that we're really over operating I I can we can go back and look for you as you deliberate this further but we did
not we looked at the 24 budget year and in that one clearly you had to balance the budget with reserves I think Capital went up from 300K to 1.8 million let me let skip go cuz he's been waiting okay um so kind of sounds like shame on us for
not looking at the shame on me I've been here since 2021 for not looking at this ahead of time so we didn't end up with this situation so and you're saying uh you know we need to Ink
this at this rate increase over this time period so that we will be in line to get State revolving funds and so might the question is should the commission tonight say well we'll go for the August 1st and the
January 2025 but between January 2025 and October let's say may is we have another look at this and decide if that 1966 number is correct is that going to hurt
our chances for no I think the key here is before that project starts we we first of all we can't spend start spending money on the project and then expect them to loan us the money for it so you have to apply in advance so as
long as that major $9 million project is is time such that we have time to get the srf loan ahead of time yeah that can work I mean you're the you're the ultimate decision makers here and this strategy will get you there but if we
take a a baby steps but you know we're our recommendation is go ahead and do all three when I say baby steps in time not in a magnitude but but because even if you do the January 2021 that's a big increase yeah that's no I understand
100% I understand 80 something so so the key though is that we make sure that as we start into these Pro and and by then maybe we have a better chance at Landing some grants for some of those project that's what I want to find out but anyway I don't know how that's going to
mess up all these resolutions as written but I would make a motion that we approved the the August 1st 2024 and January 1st 2025 rate increases and
revisit this again prior to a potential October increase for 2025 look for a second I still have a few more questions yeah no so no second go ahead Jeremy you had some questions no I was just to say Ian there's a huge uptick it's it looks
it's been the Deferred Capital we were at 300 Kish for 22 and 23 and it's up to 2 million so that's what's killing the reserves in terms of the so just kind of looking at the breakout of the I guess kind of1 10ish dollar increase it looks
like based on the numbers we have that flood mitigation is about a $3 portion of the total increase up through the October 25 infrastructure resilience for storm water management is about $130 is the nutrient loading uh is the
biggest single piece at about $443 how far is what is the goal that that gets us to and how well does how what what what progress are we really making there so so and there's a portion
of it to catch up with your operating expenses as well keep in mind but I i' I'd really like Morgan to address that's a more technical engineering question and I'd like Morgan to comment on how you're going to solve these nutrient loading issues because it's going to
become especially for our Coastal communities that are you know next to the rivers and the Indian River Lagoon that's going to be a big thing so Morgan have you got a thought on that you can share with them I don't have like exact numbers but based on our CIP we have
projects that are reducing the load um and like once we do these projects over time we did have to back Su out because of our Revenue um but over time we will be getting to meet those numbers but I don't have exact numbers of where we
would be at when do we have to meet those requirements by um I believe that there's actually some in 2025 that we're supposed to meet um but in our strategic um goals that commission made um you
guys said in 35 that we had meet so the the ones in 2025 was they were they self-imposed or are they State imposed State imposed okay it looks like we've got like the ramp ramp Road Park um the autant
loading model is the pluen loading model one that's driven by like the 25 no that one is more of a study but we did not do that this year okay but is that part of the pricing that we're seeing that is in your plan right that
might be in the plan but we ended up not doing it this year but um then we have um other ones coming up like the um coconut aisles um bio retention area and then right now I said that we're working on McNab and
then there's later ones down the road and the like the gulf Pond vegetation harvesting and street sweeping so if we were to do the basically what's required the the 2025 stuff is that basically just to
cover that or is that going beyond that um no our projects would extend further than 2025 I'm saying the ones that are were required to have a certain amount of of that done by the state um if we were if we were to do that and then
obviously keep applying for Grants and try to go further for our other stuff um do what's necessary rather than doing above and beyond what's necessary um and then we'll just continue to apply for grants for other
stuff um I would feel more comfortable with that than just doing more than we have to do yeah I think the public safety pieces make a lot of sense and we know we've got strong Water Management problems right so the flood mitigation and infrastructural resilience make a
lot of sense to me and the in terms of some of the just best practices good street sweeping things those things that are just no-brainers we can do now it seems like doing some of that and then anything we're required but especially in the economic Times we're in adding
more to folks plate is is a hard ask especially if we're aggressively getting ahead of requirements yeah I don't want saying like a prioritization of the capital projects i' like a prior versus best practice yeah what's Public Safety and and or required versus what's good
to do could we move move some of the good to do out toward a little bit less aggressive because this is built around our CIP as it's written and we might not have might CH that stack yeah I mean that's the cost requirement that's driving this model to have to ramp up
that fast so I don't know if that's a what yeah can I actually ask Patricia some questions about the Enterprise this Enterprise fund good evening Patricia drott CFO thank you Patricia um I know I when I pulled
this up on the computer the report I could see it's not pulling up my laptop I I mean on the iPad right now but there was a page that actually showed um uh the actual budget that we had for this Enterprise fund could you give us like a summary of the past like since 2021 did
did did you have to how much about how much did do you guys have to pull out of reserves to make it Balan you go you mean in past years you said it with 2021 yeah since 2021 what so she's
asking F has been balanced in recent years so the the storm water fund has has been fine on the reserves and we've been doing small projects but our last resolution was done in 2015 and I think
the last rate increase as a result of that was 2020 or 2021 one and so we've continued to do projects and to continue to move forward with our storm water projects but we haven't had a rate increase so as we've done the projects
we've been eating into those reserves Reserve balances so we're now at a point where we really cannot move forward with the projects that have been identified for this program because we've we've got nothing left
so Morgan has actually in in R Rellis has they've identified a lot of these projects and so we're kind of focused on the real big one which is the the cedar Woodland um Bard because there's already grant money that's been granted to that
project the other focus is on the vulnerability vulnerability study because Morgan really has got a lot of limitations on um the availability of Grants grant funding without that study a lot of the granting agencies won't even consider us without about
completion of that so she wants to focus on that one project that we already have Grant funds she wants to focus on getting that study so we can go out and get more Grant funds and she's trying to focus on building up that reserve and that cash balance so that we can start
to move forward with these projects but it's it's just a it's just a balancing effect right now it's we have to focus on the time that's available the staff time to to complete these projects and we have to focus on what do we actually have available whether it's cash coming
from the user charges or availability of Grant funds or we apply for srf loan what we're proposing is really a combination of the three I ideally how much would you like to see uh percentage wise being put into
the reserves uh for that optimally for your utility funds for your sewer utility and for your storm water you would have a TW months Reserve balance that's your sort of minimum best practices more is not hurtful because
you know the more your reserve balances are the more you can be responsive if you had a major event but the minimum that you would want in either of those funds would be a TW Monon and you're saying right now we don't have anything I know that we don't have anything but
it is very low and it's just continuing to get depleted do we have at Le two months you think I honestly I don't remember I'm so sorry I mean we did have that on the slide on Tuesday um and I think she's
got the two months but I'm not posit I'm just not positive at at this moment and I didn't bring it with me and I apologize okay but it it I would say if we continue to move forward with the projects by this time next year she will not have that the storm water fund will
not have its minimum I would like to I mean for me I would like to move forward with what thank you is required of us at this time without without doing extra but obviously so that we can still maintain
our our reserves um I do have a concern about those those baffles too but that's a separate issue that I know those can get clogged and be a maintenance nightmare but um so I don't know does anybody else have any
questions or concerns I like did you something oh no oh I like the way you're thinking I I think it's imperative that we protect our ecology I mean that's one of the coolest things about Coco Beach is our environment right but um I think public safety's got
to be the priority right and then I think where we meet uh the ecological protection thresholds and standards that are met now I think that's the right balance so can we do a re a redo on on
this on current um what we need to do to stay current with our regulations and then also maintain um for the project that we're doing to do that maintain at least a two-month uh Reserve can we can we redo the numbers for
that well well that's kind of what this plan targets it it it plan the target is to increase revenues enough to pay your operating expenses ongoing labor and such to build the reserves back up up and to begin the funding of that $9
million project as well as some of the studies that you need to do so there I don't I wouldn't characterize this as having a lot of wishes as opposed to requirements and needs to be be honest with you unfortunately I think I kind of agree
with skip on let's do all the way to January and then re-evaluate it next May and see what we got from there at least we're bringing it up significantly if you make that motion I'll second it let me let me hear some public comment yeah
and then we'll you can do your stuff but I'd be interested in in getting another look I mean it there's definitely money in here that's yeah out beond John Lo 444 Dempsey Drive Coco Beach none of us in this room is in a
position to know if these numbers are accurate but we have to assume that they're accurate and we're alarmed that in the next 14 months the number for you know per eru is going to approximately double in 14 months that's 100% in a
year that's actually higher than that but I think that's indicative of the fact that we've been falling behind on this for years that's what I read from this if we have to double this in the next 12 months then we're behind we're behind the eightball a little bit and it's my understanding I'm not you know
Patricia would be able to answer this better than I but I think we've been running behind on our storm water fees have been running below the onm budget the the expenses each year I think they've been running below for a
period of time now I'm saying that I don't have numbers in front of me but I believe that's true and I think the three-year look ahead it is true but I think it's also true in the past and that's why we have to double the numbers in the next year we're on a Barrier
Island and we're fortunate to be here and the problems that we have are not going to get better they're only going to get worse and I think we're compelled we're compelled to do something I support this a th% I think it would be foolish to not accept this we'll only fall further
behind two days ago most of us were here at a budget meeting and and and and two high level problems at the at the overall budget are we're drawing our reserves down and we can't afford for future Capital that's two of the Big O overarching problems of the entire
budget and here's a little snapshot of the budget and the same thing is in this piece as in the overall budget we have to get on top of this so I would urge the commission to please approve this even if you want to stare step it in we
have to approve a rate increase I think in closing wherever the city has the opportunity to have a user fee that pays the o and the future Capital we have to do that because the budget we're running shortfalls in the budget we have to
adopt things like this that's just my feeling thank you thank you Rick Anderson 1800 Minute Men Causeway and I agree with what John said I am I am personally a fiscal conservative but in my opinion fiscal
conservativism doesn't mean um mortgage mortgaging future or are cutting expenses now that we're going to um incur in the future because because we're just chopping now
I look at these numbers and everybody was going to say 110% increase folks it's it's $10 a month to $20 a month so if we were talking $100 a month to $220 a month then we we could say well but
we're talking $20 a month as opposed to 10 and I don't I don't see any any any fat in here I don't see I don't see anything excessive or or Superfluous in here so I really would urge you to make
the right choice this time and not short short us on the revenue once again and be back 3 or four years from now and and be in a worse position than we're in today thank you Janice Scott Cocoa Beach you all have heard me complain many times about
the paving projects in Coco Beach um you may say oh yeah those pavers are permeable well if I can take you on a tour and you can see where the pavers have been sealed so they are basically impermeable and you can watch the water
run off them when it rains into the street the city has not done a very good job particularly as Paving has become very popular about managing what how much property you can pave and how much permeable surface you
have to maintain and so it brings me to the point where I can show you those places you can see them in a Google Earth and where I pay the same thing somebody pays who has no permeable surface and their lot anymore because
they've completely paved it in and I also don't think it's a good policy whether make our arguments to justify it or not to um have a 100% increase in a year and a half I think it needs to be
smoothed out um I'm all for permeable surface and I think that the properties that have parking lots the commercial properties many of them they have very little permeable surface and but if they do it they're not doing the eru I don't
I mean I haven't I understand it a bit how they're going to figure this out but I think that when you do these rate increases they have to be fair and that maybe in the study you should see how especially in the single family the ones
that have permeable surface and continue to maintain it don't pay the same as someone who has none thank you thank you Janice anyone else yeah I have a question for Hy when he's back up I don't live in Coco beachs but Chuck
Sharon 1405 GL Haven Drive Meritt Island uh 2022 the uh Department of Environmental Protection enacted the national Estuary program which created about $200 million and
identified different estuaries throughout the United States and we're one of them I don't know if you guys have applied to that it's a new program and a lot of people weren't aware of it I wasn't aware of it until yesterday so just wanted to bring that to your attention what was the name of that
again it's the national Estuary program as under the Department of Environmental Protection thank [Music] you um looks like Patricia okay um I can
just I just I looked it up so on your audited fiscal year 2023 um financial report the ending Reserve balance in the stormm water fund was just a little over 1 million if you were to take 2 months of your operating
um costs you should have for two months of that should be 1.7 million so our Reserve balances are not it's not a legal requirement but it is absolutely a best practice to always have a minimum of two months I understand so we're
already as of the end of fiscal year 23 but your budg doesn't have these Revenue built into it no so would be on top of that yes this be an opport we would adjust the yes and vice mayor you had a question for yeah for uh Henry his just
quick question so is it typical in your experience to said you've had a surge in the last five years that the commercial rates replicate the single family home rates okay so so there's a there's a connective concept there the equival residential unit so those commercial
rates are not the same as single family home but they're the same per amount of impervious area so a a a a business with a large parking lot is going to have many more erus than a single family home
and the single family home is currently treated as one so yes they do pay many more but it's a uniform approach to the cost per eru and then the the rule is that like a business will pay at least one eru and plus if they have
significant impervious is that right yeah uh uh um a a a convenience store is probably at least five to8 erus because of their footprint because their footprint because their parking lot and all that so it's all done on an
equivalent impervious area basis now one of the things that we would tell you is in the future you probably do need to evaluate rates and and consider what an eru definition is but again our our strategy here was given these
significant increases we don't want to make it even more complex and compound things until we get the Enterprise on a sound footing that's kind of first order of business in our plan and then in the future you can look at these things more
carefully but you know I would submit to you based on the other studies I've done around the state that if we do that it's going to in increase residential rates comparative to commercial because a lot of the eru
factors we use today are not uh uh are not they don't reflect the modern housing stock anymore size of properties and the amount of impervious area y but but that's something that we would have to examine in detail and and again I don't
I I'd really hope you focus on the financial aspects of the util today okay I mean I could go with the like you said the January uh First Rate but I I don't I
personally don't want to um pursue more than what we are required to do I'd rather whatever the extra is goes into reserves and then we just continue to to search for Grants and when a grant
comes through that's when we'll start on that project rather than um just be proactive I'd rather be Grant active so so what what I'm saying is prove the rate increase all the way
through January 2025 as shown on the slide and then you revisit the environment whatever happens between now and then historically I don't know if this
day and age it's true but historically As Time chunks of time go by you actually get smarter about the future instead of Dumber so if we Revisited this and say you know February next year
and it still says we need that 1966 in October or maybe if we don't as long as we do it before October before the next budget cycle to make it easy on Patricia then I don't think it's going
to hurt us and uh like you said we we should know more in that amount of time about where where we're going CP projects yeah yeah and I I think with the stipulation that
as we are pursuing moving forward we clarify what is what is aggressive pursuit of CIP goals versus or or the nutrient loading goals versus what is required cuz I think okay I'll go with this if we can put that stipulation that you're only going to do what's required
not not go above and beyond cuz that's one of the major cost drivers represented here I mean I I mean I I I actually what Mr Anderson and Mr low said was kind of hit the nail on uh
on the head for me I'm I'm just used to being here 8 years I'm used to seeing the same thing it stuff got deferred so much over the last 15 years years before that now we're seeing the results of what we got behind now and now we have
to make up for it and we have to be the bad guys and put these higher fees on on on people because they were deferred so much before so I mean I think what commissioner Williams
proposed was fair we can take a look at it again um I think they kind of leaned um they leaned out we needed the most they already know what we need to get to get what we need the Min the minimum I don't think they're going over
too much what we what what we are required um but I think it's fair to relook at it again i' I'd be okay with bringing it up to the October 1st amount but you can revisit it next budget
season and see see what a um so so if you don't mind a comment for you I would encourage you to hold more workshops and look at your Capital needs and prioritize them and make sure the community shares these goals with you uh
the other thing you know is you should keep examining the rates and the funding sources so my my concern also that I'm seeing other communities do and I don't know if you get this kind of feedback but the
level of service that you're providing you know the community has canals it has SW whes and things that need to be maintained and I've been in meetings in other communities where the elected officials and the citizens said we want
these things done more often we want the swells M more not less we want the canals cleaned up more frequently not less and when you start all adding that in again it costs money but when the community is together on the need for it
and want it uh you know I've again seen these kinds of rate increases being adopted because it's a it's become an important uh issue today and public health and safety was mentioned that's a key part of this as well as you know
protecting our environment so so if we uh if we approve the first two rate increases and beginning of next year or whatever we have that workshop with the public
the staff has chance to you know present what they think would be the best practices and uh if it still says we need 1966 in October then uh then we do and then hopefully we'd have that
Community Buy in but they just you know what what's going to end up on the Twitter feed is the commission just raised your storm water fees 110% you know that's they that's all the information people are going to get you
know so so so the other thing I would hope you would consider doing when you do this update and you look again go ahead and extend the view out a few more years so you don't get blindsided by what may still be out there I'm I'm okay with that too yes but but um I'll go
back to my original motion that I'd like to go with the first two increases adjust whatever's got to be adjusted in these different uh resolutions
uh and uh and and revisit this next year prior to the October time frame second that I got a second I got a motion in a second and that's also to include not doing above and beyond or is that that
we'll revisit that that be part of the revisit got to happen between then and I just wasn't sure if they had anything planned in the in that's above and beyond well and I think to the mayor's point and and to commissioner Willis's point if if we're going through and
catching up the the math Works in terms of addressing all identified flood mitigation activities identified infrastructure resilience activities and identified best practices street sweeping maintenance bio retention areas
and essentially what we're looking at is just not doing that last increase which does the nutrient loading studies and and the models and things like that which may absolutely be necessary to meet the requirements identified for now
but I think we just need to be able to see that it does okay I got a motion a second for skips um motion for staying to January uh 2025 all in
favor all opposed motion passes 5 all right next okay this is um Item B adopt resolution 2024-the Florida adopting storm water fees and method for charging and
providing for interpretation and foreign effective date staff representative Morgan Zuli storm water utility manager um this will need to be revised it appears would there be based on the
previous or could we move as such I think that I think that we can go ahead and make the changes on the on the Fly because the the rates are set forth in three different um columns here and if
someone would make a motion to approve it but to amend it um in accordance with the previous vote to remove the last 101 2025 rate I think we can go go
forward with it now all right I'll move to approve resolu resolution 20245 storm water rate study amended to uh exclude the October 1st 2025 to be Revisited
later second all right got a motion and a second all um any public comment okay all in favor I all opposed motion passes 4 z um next item okay this is item three
adopt resolution 2024 -4 a resolution of the city Commission of the city of Coca Beach Florida accepting a proposal of JP Morgan Chase Bank NA to provide the city with a Term Loan in order to finance certain costs of the acquisition construction and equipping of a new city
hall building in cooka Beach Centennial Square the form of a loan agreement authorizing the issuance of a promisory note pursuant to such loan agreement in the aggregate principal amount of not to exceed 3,9 $953,000
in order to evidence such loan authorizing the repayment of such note from a covenant to budget and appropriate legal availability non available non adorm revenues delegated certain authority to the city manager
and others for the authorization execution and delivery of the loan agreement and the note and various other documents with respect thereto and providing for an effective date the this approval allows the city manager to sign the loan agreement with JP Morgan Chase
Bank and a to obtain 3 m953 th000 in debt financing and loan fees for the construction of the new city hall facility staff representative Patricia drott Chief Financial Officer assistant city manager all right well we I mean they
kept their bargain the 3.9 so I'm okay with it anybody uh any public comment or comment about [Applause] this we need a motion to vote for it so I'm interested to see commissioner
Hutcherson's thoughts I'll make a motion to approve uh what is this J1 I'm sorry my Wi-Fi is down so I'm reading Off Script j33 j3 got it make a motion to approve j3 as read by the attorney second got a motion in a second
um it's just a subject matter should probably wait for skip on this one yeah I I'll say my comments I mean I think we have to you know I was obviously you guys know I was the one to pushed back on the scope of the project I was against the overall cost but it
started I think we have to finance it Patricia's done a great job getting this so it's really just a financing Tool uh of course you have to do it I'll probably vote no just so it aligns with my objection to the scope the project you don't have to vote on principle all the time but I I understand where you're
going with that um but kudos to the Man City manager and Patricia they they beat the bushes and got we've got to finance it right I think I think it and it's a favorable financing and and it doesn't touch adum it's not going to be paid for out of the pockets the concern is making
sure we don't infringe on other capital projects that are going to decrement the just what is already existing and in place for the city but overall I agree this is a this is a favorable product so it's less than less than 4% we'll make we'll make more money than taking it out
of yep so it makes it makes sense we just actually you want to take should we just take a a recess while we're waiting for a skip good all right I anticipate he's going to pass but let's just do a 5 minute recess e
e e e e e e e e e e
e e e e comment and public comment um for the construction loan of the 3.9 uh 53
million and we had we had a motion in a second all in favor I I all opposed motion passes 5 thank you for that Jeremy um next next item this is item four staff is requesting the city commission
review and authorize the execution of the attached three-party agreement this agreement is between the city bvar county and Westgate the owners of the pier this agreement establishes an easement to be used to F to facilitate access to the beach north of the pier
for the beach renourishment program execution of this agreement is a requirement of finalizing the vacation of a portion of me Avenue ordinance 1668 March of 2022 as well as the execution of the development agreement in the master plan
for the Westgate Resort at the pier staff representative Randy Stevenson development services director good evening mayor uh commissioner my name is Randy Stevenson director of development services I'm so glad we got to the easy part of the agenda so we'll move forward I'd like to
take a few minutes if you would just before we get started and if this thing works go over uh just an explanation of really what encompasses the next two agenda items so you kind of put them in place with what we're looking at uh this
is probably the third uh plan development we've done in the city of Coco Beach uh these have been done nationally and I've been doing them for the last I hate to admit it 43 years but it's a different type of of uh development maybe than a lot of you are
used to uh the first type of zoning that we have and that has really governs most of the city especially our residential areas is ukian uh for those engineers in the room that has nothing to do with geometry so uh we'll go from there ukian
actually came about because of a lawsuit between Amber development and the town of euklid Ohio and what ukian zoning does does is it essentially separates everything residential here commercial here
industrial here retail here uh and if you look at part of the city for the most part that's what we got especially in our retail areas uh that caused problems uh not not the least of which was sprawl uh additional mandate use for
cars for transportation things of this nature so about 1980 I guess was when the first major form based codes came out uh if anybody's familiar with Seaside up in North Florida uh that was one of the
first towns the award-winning town and it concentrated more on a on mixed use neighborhoods and a mixture of uses with pedestrian friendly streets walkability uh it focused on the physical form rather of the built environment uh rather than a separation
of uses and we have examples of both and as you'll know back about 5 years ago we set up four Redevelopment districts within those Redevelopment districts we allow planed developments and plan
developments were basically put in place to allow some type of uh a little more a little more freedom uh it's what I call a negotiated development it allows more freedom uh so that for the private sector as well as the city uh a little
bit of give and take and we can get more uh Creative Design designs if we apply some of these larger properties and we apply ukian zoning to them you get what we have in a lot of places now you get a building up
especially let's talk on the beach you get a building on the beach with a a sea of parking in front not very creative functional but it works uh if we try to apply uh form based code to some of these larger places we'd have to come in
and put in uh a lot of Roads because form based code concentrates on walkability it concentrates on storefronts so we're we're using this third option uh as you can see here uh this is what we might get if we tried to do a form based code on a
larger lot where we've got streets running in here and where we've got just you know Square buildings and things and so we're creating streets rather than allowing them to be created in the in the unit itself in in on the property itself uh this is what we're looking at
at the uh Pier right now as you can see everybody's familiar with that oops and this is what we're what is being proposed uh using the PD and what we tried to do just to kind
of break it down a little bit it's very hard to take a subjective design and break it down into numbers that can be compared but we did try to do that for the for the most part uh just to give you an idea uh what you see in this side is what would be for the
form based code if we tried to apply it what you see here is what is will be represented in the Pud that you're looking at tonight and I didn't think that battery was going to last and it didn't uh but you can see there are three areas that where there is a difference
uh one uh form base code requires a 10ft minimum setback the other one goes straight to the CCL line uh the front separation which is for parking not buildings can go to 10 ft uh that helps facilitate in this case a parking garage
structured parking and the height uh difference was approved by the commission uh two things that I need to bring up also uh on July I'm sorry March 17 2022 the city commission did approve a vacation of meat Avenue it is not
effective yet and I'll go over that in just a second and on July 7th 2022 the commission approved variant to uh the Land Development code to maximum height of 70 ft so those are inherent and run with the land the first item that you'll look at tonight unless there any
questions on just that very simple uh run through yes sir can you back one slide is that the only depiction we're going to see this this is also in the uh in the development agreement in your packet
right yeah I just want the North side or the top side of that the brown part is where Bard County us would be able to do Beach for nourishment by taking trucks
through there correct that's correct just right here okay where does that come out on the beach I have a hard time seeing where that actually enters it comes out almost at the same place because you remember if if me had continued through here it would be coming out right here and I apologize so they go essentially yeah approximately
the same place up here so instead of going straight out to the beach from there they' go back to the South and then out to the beach that's correct mhm okay I just want to point that out so basically this is Patricia this is no
cost to the city this or the next one no okay and no future accounting D KN Crossing te's or anything except for you know doing building permit and following up with
the right and and again it's encapsulated and and Jack kersen bomb and relle laal are here representing the applicant I Know Jack has worked on this for at least two years this particular agreement four okay four to put this agreement in place that you
see and I don't want to get it too much into the details but needless to say this agreement is necessary because when you approve the vacation of me it cannot be recorded until this document is in place
the document you see before you tonight to the best of my knowledge is uh has been reviewed by Westgate the county and and the city and uh I think the other two parties are ready to execute this agreement and and this uh and
this use for Beach Tre nourishment is written in goes with the land too yes okay it runs with the land yes sir all right then I'll move to on this one j4 I moveed to approve the three-party agreement between the city Bard County
and Westgate second all right I got a motion a second uh I've got some public comment um we'll start off with you jack less is more Jack you're retired now it's so nice to be here if you have
any questions I'll answer them I have no questions uh any any other public comment all right let's let's uh you guys got any concerns okay let's go to
vote uh all in favor all right all opposed motion passes 5 next item okay item five adopt ordinance 1690 on first reading an ordinance of the city of Koka Beach forar County Florida to Pro approve a plan development project with
an accompanying Master conceptual development plan master conceptual site plan and development agreement with accompanying attachments to amend the official zoning map of the city of Koka beach by changing the zoning designation
from Oceanside OC to plan development PD for two Parcels of land totaling 4.66 7 Acres more or less located east of Ocean Beach Boulevard on the north south side of me Avenue in north of pulser Avenue
on Parcels identified with parcel number 24 3726 CG 13-6 and 2437 26 CG 112-122 within the public records of
bvar County Florida providing for authorization providing for conflicts providing for severability and providing for an effective date staff representative Lauren welz principal planner Randy Stevenson development services director move to approve
ordinance 1690 on the first read second motion second any public comment go ahead Janice Janice Scott kab be um when are we going to see the traffic a traffic
study when does that have to be presented to be part of this to approve this plan have they got one yet it's not my department but I'm sure thank you we've got somebody behind you that will say something thank
you it's a preliminary traffic study uh as they move forward with this project and uh get into the hard uh numbers in terms of design uh that will be updated that is a requirement of the constru construction
documents the contractual documents we have to have all of that and approved by us before we issue a permit for all of this storm water studies a lot of different studies are going to have to come forward on this project and again as you've heard me say this before what would we're trying to do now is we're trying to let them know that they have a
project and now they get to go spend the serious dollars thank you Randy y I mean I would assume the the biggest problem over there with traffic right now is people can't find a parking space so they're they're driving around more cars on the street because
they got nowhere to go I think you you provide more parking you're going to have less traffic a couple of things first well actually three things more parking space by a factor of almost two uh instead of pulling in now to the surface loot where you have to stop and
count your niichel dimes and quarters and pay the attendant to park there it's automated 50 of those spaces are within the city's parking program and second uh more of of that parking will be in place since it's at a resort and uh they
instead of one exit now they have two exits so we're beginning to distribute that uh that traffic traic uh fasten or uh speed up the entrance and dissipate the exit I mean I can tell you from my
personal experience uh I've been there and I've seen cars sit for 2 minutes while I try to find their change or or whatever so if you can just drive in and automatically go you're going to alleviate traffic that traffic will get backed all the way up to that light sometimes because of that because of the
time that it takes to try to figure out how they're going to pay so and again I this is you as you've already said this is first reading it'll be back to you at one of the next meetings and uh in the da they're Bound by what they've said in there any changes within a certain percentage I think it's 10% has to come
back to this commission before they can move forward thank you thank you all right we got a motion in a second uh more public comment have an Easy Pass John Dill East sou Lane when this project came up FDL knew
nothing about it after y'all voted everything about it U couple years so ago talk to former city manager said they have a study a traffic study never could see that he has one now I'd like to see that my main concern is I don't
care that area but I don't want want a residential area with the traffic which will be coming on the residential area the city streets were not designed for load what they going to have from all that traffic which means the city is going to come come back repay those streets again and again because they're
not designed for commercial load so anyway I want to take a look at that package at Randy has and I'll give my comments about that afterwards thank you any other public comment all right so we got a motion a second all in favor
oh Jack K representing the applicant I just wanted to give the clerk two things one was the resume of our planner Rochelle lel's and the other was uh copy of her report so it was in the record go ahead thank you and the only other thing
I wanted to say is uh um this started four years ago and um and I said then um uh March of a th000 miles begins with its first step and we are so close to the final steps and I want to thank your
staff and everybody that we've worked with over four years of getting it to this point and if there's any questions or comments from anybody Rochelle or I or Brian Smith from Westgate will help answer them and work them out and lastly
um I retired a couple months ago I I don't practice day to-day anymore but I felt so strongly about this project as a lawyer and as a resident and as a surfer and who surfs at the peer a lot that I I just had to be here for these last
couple of steps and again to say thank you very much for all the assistance thank you ja all in favor I I all opposed motion passes fibo all right um there was one thing I
wanted to say um it City attorney what what did you what did you bring up earlier there was a before the meeting I forgot what it was and I was going to bring it up and clear
the air on something it's very important oh I know what it was yeah um so some of you guys had some concerns about the the agenda or the the meeting
announcement coming in a little late uh or you know obviously it should be beforehand but we had a a computer glitch era so that is not going to happen anymore hopefully once we get that fixed but that was there's something wrong in the system so that
that's not done intentionally so that you guys miss the meetings so I just want to let you know that it sounds like that was the hiccup tonight as well it was not yeah so the last I think two meetings I think we've been having problems with that cuz we got some new software or something something along those lines so we're working on it it's
not it's not intentional we want you to come to these meetings and I want you guys to to get all all that you have to say off your chest meeting a jour