And I'm sorry about the traffic delay this morning. I don't know what happened, but the bridge was fun. So, um, let's call to order today's hearings of the city of Cocoa Beach special magistrate.
Uh my name is Lonnie Groot and there are some Well, first of all, before I begin, are there any changes to the agenda that we can announce? >> There are. Um so we would like to remove case number 25-327
as it has come into compliance as well as the unpaid citation uh number 793 as it has also come into compliance. >> Okay. So, anybody I don't know if anybody's here for those cases, but those cases are removed. So, we have two
cases pending. Um, and uh before we do anything else, let's announce that the next hearing date is April 8th, 2026. We will have hearings at that day. >> Yes. >> And I have before me the minutes of the
February 11th, 2026 meeting, which I'm going to approve. appreciate these being prepared as the attorney general has required. So, uh is there anybody present for the case 25-25 or 25-178?
>> Yes, >> there are. So, okay, I'll go through the the uh this the spiel for the the new folks and for anybody who's watching on YouTube, which I have done. uh
which shows how big a geek I am. So these are hearings of an adjudicatory nature. They're quai judicial hearings which means that the I'm the factfinder and con and person who official who uh makes legal
conclusions. The city is the prosecutor for lack of a better word. the city presents its case uh through witnesses and at the time that the city is testifying u a respondent may cross-examine
the the city's witnesses u at the conclusion of the city's case the respondent then presents his her or its case and the city can cross-examine the witnesses for the respondents likewise uh at the end of the proceedings I issue
a oral order. Um, and uh, that is then placed into a written order. Within a few days, the city distributes the order and that is in effect. Uh,
all testimony is given under oath. Uh, and um, we're obviously open in in the sunshine here. These are not public hearings and that if there was somebody here from the public who wanted to speak, I'm saying this more for anybody who's watching and wondering how the city works on YouTube.
I guess um these aren't public hearings and that the public can just come and say, "I think this or I think that." Only witnesses are called either by the city or by a respondent. Um all that being said, Miss Crawford, do you notice
anything I missed? We need to swear in witnesses. I know. I'm so sorry. >> I have that effect on people. >> I can go ahead and start for her. >> Okay. Well, let's Well, are you going to present this case the first? Okay. So,
anybody who plans on test she's going to talk to so Oh, I see what we're doing. All right. Good. Thank you. So, anyone who plans on speaking today, uh, your testimony must be under oath. So, please stand up
and raise your right hand. >> And we'll start with Mr. Palmer. If you state your full name, >> Brian Palmer, >> Brookox Reader, >> Ma'am, >> Isabella, >> do each of you solemnly swear the testimony you're about to give in the matters down here to the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, help you guide.
>> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. All right, Miss Oxy, you may proceed. Oh, >> okay. Uh, this is uh Danielle Crawford's case. I'll be presenting for her. Uh, 25-25. The address is 138 Esther Drive.
The respondent is Isabella and I'm not sure how to say that name, Raymond. Here's the aerial view from property appraiser. On January 17th, 2025, staff completed a search of the third party system, Rentalscape, and observed a vacation
rental listing for 138 Esther Drive on Airbnb. The first review of the address was dated December 2019. No vacation rental registration or business tax receipt had been applied for or issued for the address. On January 17th, a notice of violation was sent to the
respondent via first class and certified mail for violations of the following codes. Violations of section 13-2, license permit required. Section 26.5-21, registration required. On January 28th, the certified mailing for the NOV was
received. On July 17th, I sent Danielle sent the first notice of hearing and the respondents immediately responded and applied for the required vacation rental BTR and registration. For this reason, the hearing for the respondents was cancelled in July. On August 20th, 2025, the
initial life safety fire inspection was completed and failed. Respondents were given a copy of the fire inspection and list of actions required to complete to pass reinspection. Uh respondents continued to operate the vacation rental despite failing the inspection. On November 4th, uh Danielle issued two
citations as the respondents continued to operate the business without the vacation rental BTR and registration and little progress had been made on their application despite city's numerous attempts and encouragement. a $250 citation for the violation of of
operating without the required registration, a $100 citation for operating without the required business tax receipt. On December 2nd, the citations and notice of violation were posted to the property as a certified mailing for the citations were returned
on December 5th, 2025. The fire department returned for the life safety fire and reinspection that was scheduled by the respondent. However, the respondent no-showed. For this reason, a $250 no-show fire fee was issued. On December 9th, the fire department completed their reinspection and the
property passed the inspection. On January 21st, the respondent, Isabella Raymond, called to uh Thomas Crawford that the fees and citations were unreasonable and she would not be paying the delinquent fees and would simply remove her online listings. Miss
Crawford explained that she has been operating the vacation rental business since December of 2019 to our knowledge and that we would be referring her to the special magistrate for the delinquent payments and illegal business operation. On January 22nd, Danielle posted the fee breakdowns to property as
respondent Isabella requested via voicemail. In fe in February of 2026, the respondent Isabella visited city hall and spoke with Miss Crawford and deputy director Brian Palmer. Isabella offered to pay $1,396.70
to operate the vacation rental business despite owing $2,746.70. That means the city would have voluntarily wave all late fees, citations, and no show fees despite the business being operated legally for over six years. For this reason, respondents were referred to the special magistrate.
On February 3rd, the notice of hearing date change was sent via first class and certified mail, followed by a posting on February 5th. On February 20th, the certified mail was received and signed for by the respondent. Per section 26.5-21,
registration required, daily citations may have been issued since April 17th of 2025 when the code was adopted by the commission. Ordinance number 1697 outlines the daily penalties for operating the vacation rental without the required registration starting with $250 for the first day, $500 for the
second day, and $1,000 for the third day and every day subsequent. From April 17th to March 11th, the respondents could have uh been issued citations in total of 326, $750. That was a lot.
Um >> morning, sir. >> Morning. Just real quick, I did have a meeting with the uh property owner in regards to the the uh fines and the subsequent um payment
owed. And then I I I decided to kind of do a little deep dive into the code to see actually where we we could be standing here today. And after adding every all the penalties up, all the possible citations, all the possible
everything, the city, if the city would have would have held to the code verbatim, we could be standing here asking for $111,67545
in fines. However, the city due to the fact that this vacation rental has been operating for seven years without a BTR, at least three years without a BTR and a
vacation rental registration. The code allows for these monthly non-compliance fines to the BTR requirements. It also allows for citations to be um issued per day
that they are in violation of the code for over 3 years. The respondent is requesting to have all penalties wave and only pay for the registration and BTR fees. The fire reinspection fee cannot be
waved by the city. That would be waved by the fire department. So, we have a breakdown here of what the city is actually asking for. Instead of a complete 7-year to three-year fines,
the city is asking for two certificate of use fees for the past two years, two BTR fees for the past two years, the new application fee that's automatically done when we uh when they apply for the
the BTR, the late fee, which is the that's the uh that's the citation, correct? which is the citation that was issued for not for operating without a BTR, the annual life and safety inspection,
no show fee of 250, and then of course just your registration that's that's due every year with the late fee. So, we're asking for basically two citations
and then a and then the late fees at 20 746.70. The respondent is asking us to wave the late fees, wave the annual life inspection fees, wave the citations, wave the light the
the the late fee on the uh registration. So, she will be she would would will pay $1,396.70, which is $1,350 discount
for basically operating a business in the city of Cocoa Beach for over seven or for over six years. The other I had one more thing and I just lost train of thought. I'm so sorry. Um,
oh, the other is the code also stipulates that if there is no if the individual does not have a business tax receipt or has outstanding fines associated with the business tax
receipt. The code also stipulates that they are not allowed to conduct business until those outstanding fees are paid. However, the the property that I know of today, I I haven't been told anything different, that the property is still
being rented as a vacation rental. Now the city is also willing to stipulate and I'll say this now before we go to the ne our final slide. The city is also willing to stipulate that we are willing
to take, sorry, we are willing to take today the $1,396.70 and allow her to come back at a later date, which can be decided in this meeting,
to pay the remaining $1,350. However, the w the city would hold to that if that is the case, then she would not be able to operate her vacation
rental until the full fees have been paid. Let me see if I understand what you're saying. you would will be willing to accept $1,396.70 now
as long as the rental of the property discontinues, right? >> Yes. >> And then that issue about continuing rental would only be considered after the remaining >> $1,396
is paid. >> No, $1,350. That's the difference between >> Gotcha. I'm sorry. >> What she owes and what she's is willing to pay. >> That I got that right though, right? >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right.
>> Did Did you want to intro? Oh, you have one more slide. >> Um I don't need unless you want to see them. We have slides showing the past seven years of of the advertisement. >> I'd like to if that's >> Here you go. I'll turn it back over to
Miss Crawford. >> Thank you so much. >> And do you have a copy of this I can take with I I want to >> Absolutely. >> Good. >> Um and >> assuming it's in Who's the Who's the respondent, >> Miss uh Miss Remond?
>> Okay. Have you seen this PowerPoint? >> No. >> Okay. Well, let's go through it then. Do you have any objection to it being introduced into evidence? Um, >> even though it hasn't been the the next You want to see everything before I ask
you that question >> or do you have any objection? >> Well, I do have some objections regarding some of the fees. >> No, I'm talking about the objection to just the document. >> Okay. I've never seen >> Well, let's let's run through it, then I'll ask you that question. Okay.
>> All right. Thank you. >> And before I show uh the rest of the document, uh would you like to swear men? >> I'm sorry. Would you like to swear me in? I was >> Oh, that's right. You were you I stepped out. >> I thought I'd run you off. >> Sorry, >> Miss Crawford. Do you solemnly swear? Your name is Danielle Crawford. >> Daniel Crawford.
>> Do you solemnly swear the testimony about to give in matter now hear truth whole truth and that's what the truth is you got? >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Um so these are screenshots uh taken over the last year. Um actually a little over a year. Uh this first screenshot was taken January
17th, 2025. Um this is just showing that there was a live listing um with 95 reviews. This is offering the the property and discussion uh for vacation rental. Um this uh is a screenshot of at
the time the latest reviews and this is a screenshot I believe of the oldest reviews. Uh you can see July 2024. This one oh this is the oldest review. I'm so sorry I'm a little blind.
December 2019. Um you can see a review from ENA. Okay. Um this is again just follow-up screenshots um from later in the year. Again just offering the the unregistered
property for rental in Cocoa Beach. um now with more reviews again the the latest reviews at that time and then here I'm just showing screenshots uh dating um descending in
time so 2024 to 2023 to 22 back to 2019 19. >> So that's >> so that is yeah the totality of the evidence. >> Now do you have an objection to the PowerPoint being introduced? >> No. >> Okay. It's admitted into evidence. >> Okay.
>> All right. Does the city have anything further? >> No, nothing further. >> Ma'am, do you have any questions of the cities? Mr. Palmer or Miss Crawford or Miss Oxer for that matter? You have any questions that you'd like to ask them? Um,
>> well, I have questions about the fees. >> Well, do you have questions of them or just you want to is that what a presentation you're going to make to me? >> All right. Um, well, I do have um one question about >> to to who?
>> To Danielle. >> Okay, come on up. Come Okay, now >> back here. Okay, now you can you is your question to Miss Crawford or Mr. Palmer? >> Um, it's to Miss Crawford really.
>> When you first noticed the um the listing that was in uh 25, is that correct? >> Yes. And as soon as I received a
notification, I responded and um I don't have all the technical abilities. >> Hang on just a second. >> Okay. >> You asked the question and soon as you were notified in 2025,
you asked Miss Crawford, she responded >> and yes, you nodded your head. Did you? >> Um I sent the notice in January. Um, and I got a response in July when I had sent the original notice of hearing. So, it did take some time.
>> Okay. >> All right. On around January 31st, 2025 is when um I I believe I first >> Hang on a second. I want >> Okay. Are you through with Miss Crawford
now? You just are going to present evidence now? >> Well, I have questions. Um, so when did you say that you sent out the first notification? >> In January of 2025. >> Okay. >> Yeah, that's all I have for right now.
>> Okay. Thank you, Mr. >> Thank you. So around January 31st, 25, I received something from U. Miss Crawford. And so I was trying to access
the city uh of Cocoa Beach website and I was unable to do that. And so I tried several times and so I came into the city for help
because I was unable to access the information. I also had an architect that I was working with and he also had um not been able to access the city of Cocoa Beach website.
Uh so anyways, once I realized that I needed to take care of these things, I started to take care of them. I came in for help. Um I'm not sure if it was this young lady. Yes, she was quite helpful. Thank you. She helped me with some of it
and um I was trying to get everything in order and then it took a while to get uh to bring everything up to code and um trying to comply. So the um
when I had the fire inspection, I did miss one appointment. I was I'm based out of Orlando and so I transfer back and forth here and so I was unable to attend
uh a meeting that I had with the fire inspection and they charged $250 for me not being able to uh attend which I believe is astronomical. Doctors don't
charge that. Attorneys don't charge that when you miss an appointment. So, I was surprised at that fee. Um, let me see what else here.
I think uh Miss Daniel and I had a misunderstanding because I was not able to receive the invoices uh originally. That's why I called her on
um let me see here. I called her on 12126 and I asked her uh for the invoices because I was unable to retrieve any of the invoices.
And um I also asked her uh that I needed I was unable to access the B business tax receipt and these vacation thing uh the vacation rental business and the RS1 registration and I was unaware that it
was already in place because they assisted me so I wouldn't have called and asked that question if I was aware that it was there. So I thought I was still doing all these things
trying to comply and that was 12126. So then after uh we had um a misunderstanding, I came in and I visited her personally
and I thought I would try to resolve these issues. And so I offered the check for um $1,396.70 because um
some of those late fees I was unaware that all that was um acrewing because I didn't have this access to any of this and uh let me see what else.
I I tried several times to to access the website and I was not able to. I had a an architect, he tried as well. He was unable to because he was trying to help me um do the uh the the floor plans for
inside. So if we need to call him to verify that, he's willing to to speak to you regarding that. Okay. >> This is the time to present evidence. This >> I understand. I I do understand that's
part of it. U so I appreciate them offering uh what they have offered. Um I I want to pay. Unfortunately, my business isn't doing that well. Um,
I want to pay the the outstanding fees. I I do disagree with the $250 no show fee. I disagree with that. And as far as the citation goes, um, I
was looking at when, let me look at some of this here. Let's look at this. One moment. See here. All right.
The registration fee was submitted on 8125. It became active December 22nd, 2025.
That's when that became active. >> You're talking about the rent for the rentals. >> I'm talking about the uh the registration fee. Once again, I didn't have I wasn't able to do this. I I needed their assistance and I really
appreciate their assistance. So it became active because I needed help getting this done. So um the city helped me uh helped it it to
become active. December 22nd, 2025, that's when that became active. All right. Um >> rental registration. >> Yes. And then the BTR
fee payment uh was submitted in uh 728.25. Again, I couldn't I couldn't do any of this on my own because I didn't have access to it. So, I came in for for
assistance. That's why um >> So, you're saying you you paid the local business tax on 728? >> No, sir. I didn't say I paid that. I didn't say that. I thought you >> Yeah, >> you said BTR. So that's what >> Yeah. Uh that's the fee. That's the fee
and it became active. So I want to pay for these things. >> Yes. >> You paid the rental registration fee when >> you say >> I came in with the check. >> I one second. I could probably explain
it a little bit better. um on our system when it when everything populates and is ready to pay it shows as active. That's what she's referring to. She hasn't paid anything. The the the the um registration in the BTR hasn't been paid for, but the it shows on our system is
active and that's we can't do anything about that. That's an open gov thing. >> Okay. Which so let me can I ask this may help >> let me just ask you a couple of questions >> just to help me. I'm not I'm not taking one side or the other with this. I just
want to know what I'm deciding on. >> You're Isabella. >> Yes. >> And your is your husband Raymond? No. >> My name is Isabella Raymond. >> And Sus Glende. >> Uh she's my mother.
>> And she owns the property with you. >> Well, >> who owns the property? >> I own the property. It It's been given to me. My father is deceased now. So, >> who is legal title owner of 138? >> Both of us. >> Okay. Both of you. >> Both of us.
>> Okay. For the local business tax, for which you get a business tax receipt, the city's alleging that you haven't paid it in seven years. Do you agree with that? >> Um, well, I was trying to get it all set up to do that. >> But has it been paid?
>> No, it has not been paid because I needed help to get it. >> I got you. And the city's also alleging that you haven't paid for the rental registration. >> I haven't paid for any of it. >> Okay. For three years.
>> The city's only alleging three years. Correct. So you agree? >> Yes. That's when the that's when we started to have require registrations. >> Right. So for three years, you haven't paid the rental registration fee, but we're in agreement with that. You're in
a you agree with the city that the local business tax hasn't been paid for seven years and the rental registration has not been paid at all for the three years could should have been paid. >> Is is that what you >> I was trying to get >> you were whether whether you were I
understand you can we'll talk about that but >> sure >> you agree that it hasn't been paid. >> It has not been paid. I came in to pay. >> Okay. You came in to pay. Okay. >> Yes. I just wanted to establish those things, make sure, >> right? I came in to pay because um I
felt like there was a misunderstanding and there was all these late fees and the way he uh I'm sorry, I don't recall your name. >> Brian. >> Brian. The way Brian uh spoke to me in our first meeting, he said it would be
best to come to this meeting. And I said, "All right, I'll I'll I'll attend." But I was trying to uh pay I I thought some of the late fees were astronomical compared to some of the other municipalities.
>> And the late fee in particular you've mentioned is the $250 late fee late fee for not doing the fire inspection. Have I got that right? >> That's a no-show. A no >> for not attending an appointment. And
you realize and I know the city I have no jurisdiction over that. >> Oh, >> I have no jurisdiction over building. That's a that is a building department fee, is it not? >> No, it's an actual fire fee building department, >> but it's approved by the commission,
>> right? >> So, the fire department would have to wave that fee if they wanted to. >> I don't have any jurisdiction over that. I can't say you don't have to pay a building permit fee. I can't say you don't have to pay a fire permit fee.
And it's very typical for cities and counties to if you don't show and you have a re or a reinspection, then the next fee that you would have paid is doubled. Whatever that is, that's sort
of common, a late fee, reinspection fee, after the fact permit fee, you you they're doubled. Whatever they >> Is it common? >> That's very common. And I'll I did not I'm not testifying, but I've worked with cities and counties since 1985. I don't
know of a jurisdiction that doesn't have a double fee for after the fact and stuff like that. >> So, >> well, it was an appointment. >> Well, I I know. I'm just I'm just telling you I have no jurisdiction. >> All right. I understand. I can't say and I don't know if the city can wave it
quite frankly because they have to treat all developers and property owners the same and they're accountable to auditors who come in and look and see what fees they charge and who they charge them to and auditors don't like the word wave is an
evil word in locating government state county city because wave means you're just distressingly say I'm not going to charge Joe but I'm going to charge Sue and So that's that's an issue. I I have
no jurisdiction. So what I'm here for and and I'm going to ask the city to agree so we all know what we're talking about is whether or not the business the local business tax has been paid for the past seven years. >> That's an issue. I know
>> it has not. >> And whether >> and I'm here to pay it. >> Okay. whether the rental registration fee has been paid for three years. That's what I'm here for. Is that what the cap city agrees? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That's what I'm here for. >> All right. Well, I'm here to pay it.
>> Okay. >> That's why I'm here. I I originally came in because I wanted to pay. I didn't understand. I thought some of the fees were astronomical, the the late fees and things like that. And when I was reading some of this, it became active.
That's what I was basing everything off of because we didn't get this up and going. I I wasn't able to without the assistance of the city, which I do appreciate. >> So,
at this point, the city and you agree about the violations that have been alleged. The only issue is what my order is. >> I agree. >> And I'll listen to you. I will listen to everything you have to say unless the city objects and then I'll decide on
their objection. But in terms of the allegations the city that the city has made, you've agreed that those allegations are true. You see, >> I needed assistance to get all the items
up and going because I was not capable of doing that. And when I did try to get assistance, I was unable to get through their website. Once I was notified back in 2025, when I was notified, I responded. Is
that correct? >> In your life. >> Yes. >> I'm going to tell I'm >> I can tell you when >> I don't want I really don't want to cut you short. >> Yeah. >> But I really don't want to listen to things that I really shouldn't be listening to.
And that is all these complaint that you re really you have complaints now and those are to be directed to people other than me in the city government you know and and in terms whether it's just if you don't like the
website if you don't like the response of a of a city if you don't like the response of the clerk out at finance you don't you go to this somebody else city manager or whoever But right now, we have an agreement about
what the violations were alleged and what the violations occurred. And so what I would do at this juncture is enter an order finding those violations. And quite frankly, as to the local business tax, you're alleging seven years. Is that
correct, city? >> Yes, sir. Then I'm going to enter an order about seven years and whatever the statute says the fine is, >> that's the fine I'm going to >> the ordin >> I know, but the statute 205 >> the ordinance um our city ordinance only
allows us to go back three years. >> Okay. So you're not alleging seven, you're alleging three for local business tax >> for the for the for the um that's why we didn't go back seven years for the for the fine or to collect the monies. We're only going back two years for the BTR.
We're we're stating that there's evidence of her operating for seven years. However, the city is only asking for 2 years of BTR fees. >> Okay. So, at this point, what my order would say
is the facts show because you've agreed that you haven't paid the local business tax for seven years, but the city is only asserting only asserted violation of two. And so whatever the statute says about the fine is 205 prevails. We all
agree with that. Chapter 205. Whatever the statute says about not paying your local business tax. That's what you're that's what my order will say and the city can add whatever the statute says because there's things the statute can that's all calculated by the city. You
agree with that? And I have nothing to do with that. And then in terms of the >> three years with vacation rental, you're asking for the city's asking for how much of a fine there >> for the vacation or for the uh the
registration was a $250 citation? >> So for three times? >> No, we issued one >> for just the one. So, you just wanted the total. >> We issued one late fee for 250 or citation for $ 250
>> instead of >> Yeah, I was going to ask you to bring that up. Yeah. >> Yes. >> So, >> so as you can see, we issued two citations. We issued one for $100 um per the city code for section 1321 doing
business without a license and also one for 250 that falls under se uh section 26.5-22. So let me okay local business tax two years of violation not for non-payment. So whatever the statute says the fine
the fine is and you can charge other things administer. Okay. And then for the one one citation for the rental registration you only have you only are asserting how much of a penalty?
>> We have one $500 late fee and then we have uh the one citation issued for $250. Uh, if I may, for the registration cost, it's we only have one $500 late fee instead of the three years. >> Okay.
>> You only one year, one $500 late fee and $250. >> Yeah. And that's for actively. >> That's all for the rental. So, there's 750 there. and then whatever the statute allows for the now we're talking only
two years of lo failure to pay the local business tax. So and I don't know what the calculation is there but city will figure it out but I have no jurisdiction and I will not address the annual life safety inspection fee, certificate of use fee,
the whatever that $50 fee is, the new application fee. What's that late fee, the 250 >> on the fee breakdown? >> Um, do you want to explain the $150 late fee? Uh, that is the the one and only late fee we added for not having the
business tax receipt. >> Okay. So, okay. But, so actually she's do owes $500 for late fee on the business on the uh Oh, for business tax receipt, you said? >> Well, I'm not I'm ignoring that. So, whatever the calculation is, the statute
says on the business tax receipt, local business tax, that is, but I'm not going to address the annual fire and safety life safety inspection fee, the new application fee, the $50 fee, certificate of use fee. Those are things
the city charges, and they charge them uniformly to everybody who's subject to it. And I doubt very serious if they wave it for Joe, Cindy, Harry, or Sally. You know, they they just charge it cuz auditors wouldn't like it if you waved it. And then uh
that's what I would enter an order to do. And everything else, all the other fees that the city could charge, those are things between you and the city. >> Does that make sense, city? >> Well, I think we agree. Um,
>> I can tell you this and I interrupted you again that >> uh although you haven't raised any legal issues, so I'm not going to talk about them about limitations and all that, but the city has said you've you've
recognized that you haven't paid the local business tax for 7 years. The city says we're only going to look at two, right? >> Yes, sir. you've recognized that the you haven't paid the vacation rental registration fees or gone through that process for three years. The city says
we're only going to look at one year, >> right? >> Yes, sir. >> Correct. >> So, that's a win for you right there. That's the city trying to be I'm not lecturing you. I'm just >> No, I agree >> that. So, I don't know what the argument
is here because they're actually giving >> this is what it it was. They're trying to work with you as a property owner is what I see, >> right? And and I was trying to work with them as well. That's why I came in and I wanted to resolve the issue and I told them my situation. I uh informed them
that, you know, I did think that the the fire no show fee was astronomical, but I understand you've already talked about that. Um but all these other items as soon as I was notified I started working on all these things that I need to get
done and I have you know and that's what I tried to do. So I have I didn't have all the the the funds to pay them right away. I was I wanted
to give them what I had because that's what my bank account allowed and they did not take my check. All right. I should have just paid it anyways and then I could have paid the additional fees.
Um that they were requesting. Uh so but no problem. I I'm glad I'm here. I I understand the situation and um I want to pay for these items. >> Okay. Well, I >> All right. But I think we could have
saved going through this process if um they would have informed me that which they they did you know those should have been paid except I did disagree with the no show fee and that's
I did I just thought that was astronomical and he thought it was a good idea that I did attend this. Okay. >> So I was never disagreeing. It's always good to have a public discussion, but is there did you have anything further though?
>> Uh well, the only other issue I have is I have that check for the the 1,00 um uh 300 and some. Oh, there it is. 1,39670. I don't have all the other fees. So, do
you take a credit card? Can I put it on a credit card? >> Okay. So, then I can do that and then it will all be paid for. >> Okay. Well, I'm going to enter my order based upon the allegations and I'm going to find two years of failure to pay the
local business tax and one year of failure to pay the the rental registration fees and the violation of that code. And that'll be the order I issue. But I do want to say something. I typically don't do this, but if there is happen happens to be anybody watching on
YouTube and and or or whatever listening to this sometime in the future, I think it's important and city you tell me if you think if I'm wrong in your respect that the no-show fees that and I'm not
arguing for the city. I'm just trying to explain the no-show fees and I've had to explain this to other people in 50 years or whatever it is I've been doing local government when
a local government get sets a time for an inspection that means those people who were doing the inspection aren't doing another inspection. Okay? which means those hourly rates.
And if you add up the hourly rates of the people who are involved in the inspection and the administration and the clerical and all that, I've done it. It exceeds the 250. Never does the I have never seen a local government pay the full price of what a
service costs. They're always discounted. So that's a prudent thing to do and it's very very very normal and it's not targeting the public or anything like that. It's just normal business practice
and it may sound exorbitant but it's it's not when you calculate it out with the number of staff people that are involved and who are now now not doing something else it becomes discounted actually.
And uh the other thing is mo most jurisdictions now will gladly take your credit card. So, you know, that's usually not an issue. And I'm sure that Cocoa Beach, that's one thing I want to put out.
Cocoa Beach will take credit cards for utility payments probably, right? Uh if it impact any fee basically, right? They'll gladly take credit cards >> as do tax collectors these days, too.
All right. >> Well, as I said, you know, >> I hope that helps. But anyway, >> I was unable to access the uh website and I know that's to be addressed with the city, but that's why I came down for help and when I did receive
um a notification from uh the code enforcement, I did respond. I'm here today to respond and I want to take care of the bill. >> Okay. Well, we all we're all in agreement with the the salient facts before me are. It's just the issue of
payment calculations from this point on. >> Okay. >> Well, is that's the total is that correct that I >> I don't think you know. Well, can I don't think you know what the total. >> This is the total that we are requesting that it be paid to bring the property. Well, what what I just heard is that the
city will take that and they will aortion it around to make sure that all the various and sundry accounts are now you're only requesting what you want the full amount. Yeah.
Although a portioned at $2,746.70 to address your failure to pay local business tax, other fees and all that. >> Yes, sir. >> They will aortion it correctly. And then I also just want to mention because it's very important the registration will have to be reviewed annually in so in
one year from today and the BTR is the same. However, it expires September 30th. So you don't have a full year to renew the BTR. You only have until >> your local business tax is due on October 1st of every year. I >> BTR
>> and if it's not paid on October 1st, then the statute says how much more can the governments can charge >> and all that and what penalties are and I have to pay it although I'm exempt because I'm a veteran.
>> Do you send out an invoice for that? >> Yes. >> Okay. By mail. >> Email. >> We we use email. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, I am not able to open up a lot of the, you know, the city information and that was one of the
reasons why I came down >> for assistance. So, >> I'm happy to mail it. >> I I will request that, please. Thank you. >> All right. Well, is there anything further? >> Anything further by the city?
>> Nope. Then in case number 25-25, I will enter an order finding a violation of the codes as alleged, two years in terms of the failure to pay the local business tax and one year relative
to the the uh rental registration fee. That'll be the order that'll be issued. Okay. Thank you much. >> Okay. Okay, the next case is case number 25-178. Uh, the property address is 327 BLA Lane
and the property owner is Patricia Hayes. >> Is Patricia Hayes here? >> I don't believe so. >> No, she's not. >> Okay. Not not just to go through the form. Would you look for Patricia Hayes? Miss Oxreader.
For the record, Miss Oxer is looking for Miss Hayes in the hallways of city hall second floor. >> Yes. Mr. Ori has just announced that Miss Hayes is not present. She has not been present in the uh in the meeting room
here today. We all know that and we have now called the halls and she is not present in the halls. You may proceed. >> Thank you. Uh so the property uh in question is 327 Burllo Lane. Uh parcel ID and legal
description shown above. Patricia Hayes as the owner. Uh this is an aerial view of the property. Um on July 15th, 2025, I observed the property with tall grass, trash, and debris uh without clear and safe means
of egress for emergency personnel. On July 16th, 2026, a notice of elation was sent to the respondent via first class and certified mail with violations of the following codes. 10-22 enumerated
conditions, section 302, exterior property areas sanitation. Section 702, means of egress. And on July 21st, 2025, the certified mail was received and signed for by the respondent. The respondent called to
discuss the violations and what she needed to do to come into compliance. And I believe I misspoke. That should be July 16th, 2025. 2026. On July 4th, 2025, I went to the property and spoke with the tenants on
the property and explained again how to come into compliance. On October 16th, 2025, I again spoke with the tenants about compliance. On November 18th, 2025, I spoke to the tenants about compliance.
On February 10th, 2026, a notice of uh new hearing date was sent to the respondents via first class and certified mail, as well as hand delivered to a tenant. On February 10th, 2026, the respondent called to discuss the violations and
what still needed to be completed uh to come into compliance and potentially cancel the special magistrate hearing. Um, as of March 10th, 2026, uh, the property remains in non-compliance as there's no safe means of egress and the yard is still
cluttered with trash and debris. Um, the grass has been cut and maintained in compliance. Uh, so this is an image uh I took in July 15th, 2025, just showing all of the
trash and debris on the property. just blocking uh entryways to the home. Uh the property essentially looked the same in November of 2025 and this is March 9th. So this is last
week. Um you can see in person that they they have done some work. Um, however, there is still a lot of trash in the yard on the curb and it appears to me that the means of egress
might have actually worsened as there's now a table blocking the entryway into the home. Um, the property uh owner, Patricia Hayes, she came in yesterday and we again we discussed, you know, ways to compliance
and I believe that she understands what is needed to be done. So at this time uh we are just asking until April 1st for her to clean the property and bring it into code and then we would request any any uh
citations or daily fines at the Massie hearing. >> Okay. >> I noticed on the vehicle there's a handicap is a handicap license plate. >> Yes. >> Not to intrude on Miss Hayes's condition, but his
How is her What is her handicap? Is she Is it the mobility one? I guess >> I believe it. Yeah, there's mobility issues and so she heavily relies on um family members to help her clean the property and I do think that's partly why it's taken. >> Well, that's a cons obviously that's a
very kind thing for you to say is being concerned in that regard. I guess I'm more concerned that because one of the allegations is ingress and egress and >> yes, >> if she has mobility issues that seems to exacerbate
that and uh whether her coming in or out or somebody trying to move her in in or out like a firefighter or something like that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Just that's very reasonable approach. April 1st for
compliance and any fine determined at the Massie hearing for future for failure to comply. >> Yes, sir. >> Okay. In case number 25-178, u I'll enter an order finding that the
property owner is in violation of the codes as alleged. uh the mowing of the grass doesn't affect the code about citations at all. >> And uh the respondent will have until April 1st
to come into compliance and if they fail to a massie hearing will be held and at that point in time uh a daily fine will be determined. >> Okay. >> If needed that'll be the order in. >> Thank you so much. >> Is there anything further that the city
has to bring forward today? No sir. >> Okay. Once again, sorry about the uh issue on the bridge, whatever it was. And we're journey.