that's she like that's new city six eight times a year way doesn't do side he's got some he's trying to do this whole thing on and I ad several times
get and so I went through the safety February the 25th 2025 at beautiful 6th Stone Street downtown Coco um we would like to have invation by may we everyone father thank you so much for
bring us here together tonight Lord we ask you to give us wisdom in all of our decisions and that we know that we're doing your will and Lord we ask you to bless each person here in Jesus name we pray amen amen you face the flag I Ali
to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for for Mrs Madam Clerk you do roll call for
us please ma'am yes sir mayor Blake thank you sir you present ma'am Deputy Mayor weeks here council member Hearn here council member Goins here council member C here City attorney
gargan and city manager Whitten thank you thank you very much ma'am proceeding on to item number-2 D1 agenda regular meeting of February 25th 5 2025 order the wishes of council move to approve
second we have a motion on the floor by Deputy Mayor week and a second by councilwoman CA CH going to call the question all in favor by saying I I any n eyes have it unanimously proceeding on to item number
2-2 minute special meeting December 23rd 2024 what are the wishes of council motion to approve have a motion on the floor by councilman Hearn second second by Deputy Mayor weeks CH is going to call the question all in favor by saying I
I any Nays eyes have it unanimously proceeding on the third and final item of 2-3 manag regular meeting of January the 14th 2025 what are the wishes of council motion to approve we have a motion on the floor by
councilwoman calls second second by Council Deputy Mayor weeks just going to call the question all in favor saying I I eyes have it unanimously proceeding on to Awards and
presentations Proclamation proclaiming Saturday the 5th of April 2025 as Arbor Day um would everyone just stand just stand right here at our desk I mean desk sorry I'm in the classroom y'all I'm in
the classroom if I can read this Proclamation into the minutes whereas the holiday called Arbor Day was first observed with the planting of more than a million trees in Nebraska whereas Arbor Day is now
observed through the nation and the world trees can reduce the erosion of our precious top soil by wind and water lowering our Heating and Cooling costs moderate the temperature moderate the
temperature clean the air produce oxygen and provide habitat for Wild Life trees are renewable resource giving us paper wood for our homes fuel for our fires and countless other Wood Products trees
in our city increase property values enhance the economic Vitality of the business area and beautify our community whereas trees wherever they are planted are a source of joy and spiritual
renewal now I do Michael C Blake Proclaim on the behalf of the great city of coko and its Council are proclaimed April the 5th 2025 as the Arbor Day event in the city of coko and urge all
citizens to celebrate Arbor Day and to support efforts to protect our trees and Woodlands let's give oursel a round of applause Thank you very much you may be seated uh the tree provides a multitude of resources yes and uh it wasn't for
old tree where would we be so thank you okay proceeding forward on the delegations I have four cards here one two three four first on the list will be Miss Teresa clipon good evening Teresa Clifton with the bravard Humane Society in Coco
Florida 1020 Cox Road I'm here this evening to thank the city council those of you that didn't show up Alex gornes but we won't say who U to Jude Zing we really appreciate it mayor
play um but I brought um some uh graphics for you to see um for Sunday's event we're really very um grateful that the city continues for 73 years to embrace uh the human pet Bond because it is very
important obviously to us um if you want to go to the next one the slides are showing um the oh I do oh oh oh how do nobody oh okay the right button the red button no the right oh the right button
CL the one oh okay so these are some of our volunteers and this was our Marty gr shirt um the Peron uh Ralph and Cindy perone were the king and queen of Marty gr one year so they graciously came to be judges for Marty PWS and then we had
some great volunteers at our bake sale and we had the rotor they came out and supported as well they handled the children's play area and then we have a pet parade of which all of these little guys um are just a sample because I only
have three minutes so I just am doing a few of them and we had a cat this year so I'm super excited cuz dogs drool cats rule I'm sorry that's how I feel about it but we had mostly dogs uh but this little kitty came all the way from St Lucy County um we did have our lure
course out and as you can see it's so healthy for the dogs they get lots of EX of um exercise and it's very entertaining this was some of the uh pets in the pet contests and we crowned our king and queen and our uh the third
one over the young man um that's the Companion Pet look alike I know it always gets a laugh um and then our Our Queen um was to the left of me probably your right and then U the King next to her and then the cat
won um the uh best costume uh with her outfit so we appreciate all of the judge's help with it and this was a photo of all of the Wind contestants and our judges the Peron and of course um mayor Blake and thank you so much for
coming out um it could include councilman go but he didn't show up we missed you yes and of course we could not do it without our sponsors that supported uh the city of Coco being one of them there were about four or 500
people intermittently with their pets that came out it was a beautiful day and we do promote responsible pet ownership everyone picked up their poop which is super important yeah we talk about and all of the vendors had a great time all of the dogs had a great time
all of the people had a great time and all of the kids who came out also had a great time so we are really very appreciative and I just wanted to share that with Council because with the city supporting this all of these 73 years um we are seeing a great reduction in the
number of unwanted pets in our community and I give High kudos to the city of Coco Council in particular because in 1952 the mayor was one of the founding members so I just wanted to share that with you and I really appreciate Samantha you making helping me make this
happen because otherwise I couldn't and the local businesses that came out they all had a great time too and for those of you that were not able to attend um that was our 19th annual so maybe you can attend at the 20th annual next year for the Marty graa in the park but it is
something that it raises a few thousand dollars for the Humane s but moreover it educates our community on the responsibility of responsible pet owners and for that I greatly appreciate your time and thank you for did the pig show up this year I'm sorry did the pig show
up this year um no the pig didn't show up this year but the cat showed up so it was kind of a you know we got a cat instead of yes um tell us and I recognize you like Council woman cost but tell us about the food that you provided for the judges oh yes because the last time I
was here I had a certain councilman going who I won't mention that said if you feed us I will come and I had Papa John's Pizza brought out pizza for the volunteers and the judges complimentary
um this year so um I'm Sor I'm I'm sorry that you missed such a great time Alex came from church man I came from church yes he did so but it it was it was really fun and so Alex Maybe next time yes like 20 number 20 is 20th okay
it's on record Council M call yeah I was goingon to say I'm so sorry I missed it I was at the unity in the community but I was going to say that I got a call from the constituent that I don't normally hear from a lot they just happened to be in
the park and got involved in in the Marty Paws and they were just so delighted they called me made a point of calling me to tell me about it awesome what a great event to have in Coco thank you well we we make everybody follow the
rules and we are very grateful that riverfront park is one of those places that you can bring your pet and they have doggy doo stations for the you know the poop and that everyone follows the rules and that's what it's all about so we do really appreciate and are very
grateful that the city of Coco has that in mind for the whole family because part of the tribe has four legs and fur thank you whole time ma'am time I just had a quick question how soon do you know in advance when it's going to be
held um normally we book it the day after uh duerman does Marty gr the night before so it's whatever day after he does um I know this year that things get tough and there wasn't a a Marty gr
parade he just did a concert um so whenever he books next year um if he doesn't then we just try to do it within that Fat Tuesday time frame in February um Sunday seems to be the best I know it
interferes with church but we did it on a Saturday once and people didn't like that so hey after 19 years we're doing it on Sunday well even if you started it after 12:00 um but anyway I just wondered how far in advance because
obviously the further in advance the easier it is you know because it's something I would love to come and help and judge on but absolutely so what you're saying is next year I should come and talk to y'all in January yes ma'am so you can December would be better that
would be awesome and I would be happy to do that thank you for um the desire to participate because we do really appreciate it and even though animals are low on the totem pole they have great meaning to many of us so thank you for that Teresa I think he's already put the date on hold for next year so you
can get that date from Gail oh okay oh well that's even better he he's dman already has oh okay well I will be sure and share that so it can be on next year's calendar sooner and again we thank you for having a family friendly event where everyone
can participate yeah especially our four-legged children so thank you kudos to you and your staff a phenomenal job as always that goes a long way in the community that's why I wanted to show the the volunteers even the rotorat club they they always support us when they come
out to do those programs and these are you know they're basically to meet kids in college so they um they really do have a a great helping unit in that so we do appreciate that as well thank you ma'am look forward to seeing you soon okay thank you thank you next Ted
four good evening and thank you for having me thank you Council and thank you to the left and the right all right I just you know like to say a few things I thank you for listening to me and I know things is not speedily and it don't happen overnight but God still in control all right and you know I have a
you know uh the mayor has y'all councilman he has his family he has Cony consentes I'll get it out in a minute excuse me and he has a City attorney to got his back but I have a Heavenly counsel that's got my back and he's best in the
business and you know when God set something in motion it cannot be stopped God has set this water deal in motion okay God has not told me no yet so when God tells me no I will stop pursuing it
so then you know I was very fortunate to be brought up by some really older gentleman that you had to get the experience by those that's already had the experience that learned the experience to give you the experience so I was very fortunate for them older gentlemen that really put my emotion in
life to move forward you know and they told me there's three types of people in this world there's people that wonder what happen there's people that watch what happened and then thank God there's people that make stuff happen but it's a collective group that makes stuff happen
it's not just one but you know it's inspired by God so I'm very thankful and you know when people tell me no and the reason I tell you there is one no and that's if someone botherers someone or goes against your will or does something heinous that is a no no but other NOS is
a little different when I pursued my wife my father-in-law said No and when you have a double barrel shotgun pointing at you and I mean no disrespect to anybody with guns and thankful for the law enforcement when when both him hammers us back and says no son you
can't date this girl you got to go well that stirred me even more so but thank God we've been married for 38 years 125 and 135 so you know and do this is an Endeavor and I know many things so I'll
get quick here uh I touched out to Morgan Associates that's the ones that put the water in and done all the bells and whistles on the Satellite Boulevard and I just told him to give me a ballpark figure with the new route to from my
house to the end of satellite that's with City approval City's grants it all can be done I've done you know I know it's just willing and you don't need any all this stuff but he give a ballpark of 250,000 and he said it could be less but
I'll go ahead and leave it to y'all and after this meeting I'm going to take a small break God said to be still a minute and just let things move forward so is there any update or anything or no sir if y'all forward what I forward to
y'all to was to get a general idea I'm sure the city manager to it upon himself sub to okay I'll well I'll wait upon uh when you come back it'll probably be late April so thank you thank you for the
blessings okay proceeding on uh the next item will be Miss Chris MC Miss mcar please hello good evening good evening beautiful people I'm just here as a thank you uh when I talked to the kids
and we talked about work that y'all are doing my student leaders are known for their thank you carts I brought y'all some of them today so you can add that to your wall of uh wall of hope that hopefully all of you have there um but our kids as
they trampled out in their ponchos and umbrellas after we talked about the crosswalk are super excited about it they're hoping to be a part of when we get our crosswalk out there on Dixon they want to be a part of it they wanted to come here and talk to y'all but I told them we only had three minutes and
there's a lot of them so uh they would like to invite you all to come out to the school come see us come see what we're about um all of them that sign the papers that are on there want to be more involved some of our older kids are a
little better at getting involved uh some are not so good but they want to know who y'all are as you're out here representing them I know sever of y'all have been with us there we are having our Spring Festival on March the 8th so
we would love to invite members of the council to come by join us fellowship with our families um these are all the people that that helped y'all get here we want them to know who y'all are too so that when there are things to talk about they're here in these seats to
talk about them um but we definitely are trying to bridge those gaps for our families get them more comfortable with their elected officials with the people that are representing them know your names know your faces so that when they see you in the Walmart they can run up to you and say hello to um it's
important for our families to bridge those gaps especially when there's so much harsh in the world we want them to know that the people who are out here fighting for them know who they are and know where we are so they just wanted me
to EXT extend that thank you extend you know the invitation to come visit they get special certificates and badges whenever they lead tours so please um come out Miss Charlene knows how to get a hold of me she um a special thank you
to miss Charlene who's being a part of our recertification process right now we are recertifying for our 10y year as a community partnership school we are still the only one in Bard County so we are showing them what we're made of showing them what we've been doing over here in Coco that's setting the scene
for the rest of the county to hopefully we're trying to push for Coco High to be our next Community Partnership school but we need community support to make that happen so we'd love to uh add your guys' names to the list of people who want to see that next Bridge happen so
our kids continue have that wraparound care from VPK all the way through when they're graduating and we're sending them off to college because Orlando schools are making us look bad they got better graduation rates than we do so yeah so we're now in a competition uh so
we'd love to of us all competition oh it yeah we love competing but if you'd like to join us for our Spring Festival March 8th two weeks from now from 12: to 3 it's just an opportunity for our families to come and fellowship so just come say hello you don't have to come as
a council members come as a member of our community church at Vieira puts that on for us with the support of all of our partners so we'd love to have you there thank you ma'am yes sir thank you thank you for being responsible for our greatest possession and that is our
children amen okay um this concludes this portion of delegations and we will proceed forward to the consent agenda item what are the wishes of councel got a motion on the floor by councilman Hearn second second by Deputy
Mayor weeks chair is going to call the question all in favor by saying I I and the n's eyes have it unanimously proceeding on to public hearing item number 6-1 um this is the request to approve
the final Subdivision plat for one parcel of real property totaling approximately 15.74 acres to be subdivided into two lots lots one a and 1B known as serus subdivision and a
commercial uh uh out parcel okay two things as you know it's going to be a public hearing so I will hear from the public but I would like to hear from our planet Miss Lucy but just let me do my formality if with your blessings please
uh Mr city manager you want to say anything sir okay sir City attorney sir no sir thank you sir ma'am the floor is yours ma'am thank
you how do Rob how do you good evening good evening the city council initially approved this multif family project as a plan unit development in 2021 under ordinance 03
d221 this approval included 280 multif family dwelling units on 13.4 Acres designated as the multifam parcel and 2.25 Acres reserved for future commercial use the property is generally
located on State Road 524 directly south of State Road 528 and west of Industry Road on March 22 2021 Sirus mix use development agreement was officially recorded confirming the plan to develop commercial Parcels as
phase two of the project highlighted here in green as you can see along 524 is the phase uh two that is the our commercial parcels and then in the light blue is the multifam phase one the phase one
company consisent of the 280 Apartments was approved through a final PUD preliminary subdivision and S plan issued by the city the same month the frame framework group has demonstrated a a strong commitment to
architectural accellence sking with the elevations pre previously approved by the city council resulting in a high quality multif family development that enhances the city of coko residential landscape the inclusion of well-designed amenities such as the resort style pool
and Vibrant Community spaces further underscores the Project's commitment to providing residents with an exceptional high standard multia multifam development in the city in July 2024 the applicant formed formally submitted in this case is the
frame group uh submitted the Ser subdivision final plat application the proposed final plat seeks to subdivide this parcel privileges occupied by Home Depot into two lots there's lots one a in blue and one B that's here
highlighting in green to facilitate future commercial development as authorized by the Pud zoning district and the and the development agreement the planning cons Consulting fir rvi the assistance City attorney and a
thirdparty surveyor has review have revealed the submitted application and found the final subdivision PL application to be in substantial compliance with chapter 18 subdivisions this project is also consistent with the
comprehensive plan policies aligns with policy 1.1.2 point9 supporting commercial development and that is to accomplish by Design designating a portion of the site
for commercial use enhancing access to retail retail and Professional Services promotes sustainability energ Energy Efficiency alignment with objective 1.1.9 the mix use design encourages
walkability and reduces vehicle miles travel contributing to lower greenhouse gases emissions and a more sustainable development of approach encourages Innovation l l use following policy 1.1.10 point3 the Project's PUD
designation supports flexibility efficient L use planning aligning with the city's goals of fostering in Innovative development patterns such as puds and cluster zoning so I'm here to request City council's approval of the final
Subdivision plat for the seral subd division in accordance with chapter 18 subdivision and appendant a zoning of the city code subject to the following condition that the final pla must be recorded with the clerk of the Circuit
Court of bravar County within 30 days of the city council hearing or approval thank you do we have any questions for M um Lucy okay seeing none chair like to
close this portion to councel no to the public please come forward and state your name and your uh your concerns or this particular item for public hearing number the serus final plat number 2025
d127 going once I'll go ahead going TW Mr for I'll speak on that behalf go ahead sir couple make sure you submit a card please oh okay I didn't know I had to submit a card I'll do it next time this time this time go just talk first
okay I didn't know you had to do it twice I thought it was just open to the public without a card I apologize no harm no fou go ahead my concern is we've lived out there for a long time and there's been people there 30 years and I don't know if this has took into consideration but the storm runoff of
all this of the new 524 developments don't get me wrong people need a place to live but you just said there's 300 units there 280 280 okay times one car that's 280 cars the next subdivision the next
subdivision and but the storm runoff water is what we're concerned about we've seen water out there where we live and canaval grov like we've never seen ever before and it's due to all this relocation I don't know if this is a lotted or who takes care of this of the
storm runoff water and that parking lot will have so much contaminants I don't know if there's en catchments there to catch this at the end of each parking lot we used to make a little thing when I worked for the Department of Environmental Protection you know at the end of the parking lot it's a thing like
a pond so to speak that has plants and Aquatic things that catches all the debris that comes off you know whatever starts somewhere in somewhere else regardless of where you push it or where you take it but keep that into consideration you know and the traffic
is going to be a disaster which I'm sure that may be a lotted we used to get home now and just a jiffy but it's almost from Clear Lake to where we we live 45 minutes to 50 minutes now and that and the people ain't there yet so just take
that in consideration and I thank you and I apologize for not filling the card no fou just please submit your card sir thank you kindly anyone else from the audience going once going twice chair like to close this portion to the public and return it
to councel chair would like to make a motion to approve the recommendation stated by staff to approve the final subdivision Platform One parcel of real property total approximately 15.74 acres to be subdivided into two lots lots one
a and one B known as Sirus subdivision and a commercial op parcel second second okay we got with discussion okay but I do have councilman Golight on first okay and then do you have that
second um Madam clerk yes sir yes ma'am thank you County and then we'll be councilwoman cost councilman GES I want to wait on my questions after the vote it has nothing to do with our vote but it's a question about the project
itself so so I I don't want to mix it in with the Motions okay then you can turn your light off then go ahead Council woman Co yeah I was just going to say this is a project that I'm particularly proud of
because it is a Redevelopment project so to address some of Mr for's comments this is a project where the land had already been cleared um and it's the Cirus apartments that are across from the public if
you're familiar with them so it redeveloped the land and they took into account they had to meet um standards for storm water collection that sort of thing so this particular project although it does like you said it adds
more cars to the road this particular project should not be a burden storm waterwise well that's the main concern because you know I'm a water sir sir so anyway um that was my
only any other questions she going to call the question all in favor saying I I I any N I have it unanimously proceeding on to council business um Miss Morgan um I had a question about
the the par the existing parking lot that was there um and I'm I don't know if cus was made to do this or the owners of the parcels that may own CVS or W or McDonald's or whatever why do they have to put the signs inside
of the access roads to block each road that attaches to sir cuz there several um entry points that it has signs blocking maybe two or three signs at each entry do you know do you have that you don't really know the
answer right now um so they have signs that that say yeah so they are um red triangle signs nothing on them but they're they they just they're called Road termination signs
um I'd have to look at at the the um the plans okay and see if they were I don't recall seeing those yeah yeah part of the I think she the connection of the parcels okay yeah I I just wonder
because I I guess now it stops people from even even the people who live in apartments they can't go across the parking lot and vice versa you can't get to it at let you go all the way around to the ends to get to the apartments now so okay I'll look into okay I don't
recall seeing those as part of the review appreciate it of course councilman I had a quick question so the uh The Divided lot uh that we just that was included in this vote uh there's future plans for commercial development
in that lot or okay perfect do we know what yeah uh not yet um in the past we did uh receive an application for a seven bro but they withdraw that application um now we do
have um any of developers isn't interested in maybe doing a a professional surface like a dental office and they looking into um maybe um maybe a restaurant like a small fast food we're not sure maybe like do three
business but still we're not sure because they haven't submitted anything but it was just some preapp meetings and discussions but nothing official yeah but the the zoning sets up commercial retail office all of those things right yeah so if you look at it was part of
the package the development agreement if you take a look at that there's restrictions when the kind of uses are allowed in those all Parcels so you can take a look and you have an idea what is permitted I just wondered if anybody up yet okay thank you that's my
Nick of the wits just let the real estate side come out I know let that light shine man let your light shine okay is that it ma'am okay is that a gentlemen okay sir and
ma'ams okay proceeding on to item number 7-1 travel authorization for emo conference attendance 202- 171 Mrs Jamari yes sir this is um
training that the city budgets for annually and our in our budget we have budgeted for two members of council to attend um we have a request for three members but it's actually over two separate training sessions one's in March and one's in June so we're just
asking for authorization to um for the additional member to attend let's cut to the chase ma'am let me let me address the white elephant in the room we have two slots
but we have three people applying we have a firsttime individual that I I think should attend I think it's imparative because we've all did the phases of emo1 I'm asking you to fundamentally graciously agree to want
who would like to go and who would like to stay that's what I'm trying to ask and just be understanding yeah one is in March and one is in June no this one's for March um the request that we received was for um let me pull it up was for the March
conference it's for March 6th and 7th that's at the um Lake buav Vista um Embassy Suites Hotel so the the budget for that that's the more advanced training so that would that wouldn't be for a new council member that would be
for the advanced courses um so we got the request for council member goens and council member Hearn and then then the the new for a new council member that was for deputy mayor uh weeks request that one's in June so and we don't have the
information on that one yet because it's too far out so we just have the dates so okay so so is it is it just about the amount of council members or is is it's really about the money correct about how much money it is for three the total
that's what puts us out of the budget well per our training um process um we bring this in front of council to document the approval of it so the purpose of this is document the authorization um and who's going so that
gives the city clerks the authority to book the travel and make the registration right only reason why I asked because I know if I know the hotels are expensive and if if it helps for me to not use a hotel and me to drive back and forth I can do that too
if that's you know I'm just ask go ahead and make it official um I'll withdraw from that event uh that conference okay so now it's down just to one okay okay but I I know two individuals on two
separate a total of two right now but I'm I'm eagerly to hear from councilwoman C because her light is on Council mcon are you good sir yeah yeah I'm good thank you sir councilwoman call uh yeah I was just going to um ask about the other Florida Liga City these
conferences are we budgeted to attend those because um that was my primary interest the budget is an estimate um and Monica does our best when we build our budget which is way in advance of when we um you way before these
conferences are put out so say they we estimate the registration says $300 and then sometimes the registration comes out and it's 325 or that sort of thing so it's an estimate where we budget for a hotel breakfast lunch and dinner you know the pum and that sort of thing so each
conference um like the league of cities and all that are all separate items in the budget that are estimates so the emo trainings are a separate item as well correct yeah okay so but we understand the directions so we're going to register
Deputy Mayor weeks and councilman goens so all right thank you thank you clear I need a form of a motion so I need a motion you all I'm go ahead you go ahead a motion
to approve uh Deputy Mayor weeks to attend the June event and for councilman goings to attend the event the training next week in March second a motion on the floor by
councilwoman C second second by councilman question all in favor saying I I I I have it unanimously so I I got got a question what what can what can we do so we won't have this issue moving
forward do and I know it's difficult to do but now that we know say for example from what I when I was talking to um miss arenot about this earlier the um the conference that the FBC Leo conference like like this week
for example it wasn't budgeted in and so can we just make sure that maybe that gets budgeted CU more than likely some one of us is going to probably end up going to that conference so um I think that'll help us in this situation yeah yeah and we'll make we make notes as
things happen and and you know we you like I said it's this is an estimate so okay try to plan we can't plan for everything all right I appreciate you okay moving on to our final item of tonight
um as you know this is probably I don't know how many times we've dealt with this before um but we are going to address the concerns so please submit all your cards so we can proceed forward in a
very reasonable time um item number 8-1 to provide direction to staff for funding and new policies if necessary for the Indian River Drive septic to se conversion
um we had a councilwoman um Deputy Mayor weeks to bring It Forward before us and then councilman go had three excuse me Hearn had several questions that he asked in reference pertaining to if it's
a mandatory connection how do we mandate this and apply to 88 homes the enforcement measures that should be brought back to address it but also be willing to send a representative to Soro and we did do that
um um my question that I've always asked and we do have uh existing policy thank you sir that's going and I know you have to recuse yourself councilwoman CA I'm coming to you um the existing policies we do have one to reimburse the
city also who would pay for the clawback from the county if if all 88 did not get on the sep uh from septic to sewer system who will pay for the cost overage okay um Esquire gargan would you
like to say anything for the record sir I'm G come to asquire gargan then I will hear from you Council woman C you know I think councilwoman C has a point of business that she needs to handle right up front
Okay call I have um so I have my form a8b Rec ex using me uh not for it's it's from the ethics commission not to do with any sort of uh
corruption but whether or not uh my home would get sewer I could um they ruled that I could gain or I could lose by that vote um I was not recused though from stating facts right
um that's elected officials have the ability to participate um you know my advice has been that if any participation would have to be limited to facts and not advocacy you know as you know I've always advised you know in abundance of caution that when there are
voting conflicts of interest that council members just simply just step down and not participate at all just to avoid any um you know any issues so but I do have the right to state facts because I have five facts that I would
like to State and they are facts yes yes at the appropriate time in the proceeding you you could do that can I do that mayor at this may if it's facts now yes okay Bon yours couple of these things that're
you know you may have heard before but they're worth putting out there in front of us and one fact is that in 2016 our then mayor and leaders from every mun municipality in bravard County signed a proclamation and pledge to promote the half cent sales tax referendum to
support the Lagoon project plan J&K were identified as Koko's primary contribution to bringing back the Lagoon fact according to the on-site sewage treatment Disposal system remediation
plan that we are required to submit to the state August 1st J and K is resp responsible for contributing 4,922 pounds of excess nitrogen or
pollution to the IRL per year fact I've been on the console six years and we have never decided how to manage cost overuns Beyond contingencies um the fist Boulevard
storm water project specifically serves residents of the broad Acres nebor neighborhood that's a fact we had significant cost overruns beyond the grant dollars and contingencies which is also a
fact um fact the rate payers will fund the water and sewer extension with contingencies to two large upscale developments surrounding I95 and 528 fact Coco's utility department is currently uh working with Bard County
Utilities to provide sewage services to the soral projects called Coco Zone C and two projects in Sharps the county um would lay the line with grant money from sorl in the state
and then make the connections the sewage would be treated in Coco fact our comprehensive plan in the sanitary D element policy number
4.1.5 point3 reads the reduction in cost to new users may be made if deemed necessary or beneficial by the city to accomplish specific goals for example environmental
concerns or economic growth or another example customer based growth and so I will just leave it right there and thank you for your tolerance and
discussion okay would you turn your light off please any other comments from Council before I turn it over to the city man oh go ahead ma'am you want to say something I didn't know if now was the time where I should wait ma'am you have the okay um
I um where to start um yes the half cent sales tax was passed in 2016 and um consistently uh over the last four
years um when it has come up or six years um it has been voted 2 two uh many times um and uh I'm would like at some point to know why councilman Hearn and councilman Goen they have both voted in
favor of this before and um perhaps what has changed your mind on that um the advance I've done some research on the advanced septic systems and they only take out 65% of
the nitrogen they run on electricity if the electricity goes out then in fact I printed out a thing um that says that um the advanced septic will generally hold 200 to 250 gallons
and they account for 50 to 75 gallons of water usage per person each day it doesn't take long to fill up that storage area once that capacity has reached the waste water will begin to back up into the pipes and eventually end up in the home also there's something on the top that you can undo
to cause to let the sewage out of the advanced septic systems which is why again it is not a good idea uh sewer one and done um I also have heard the uh concerns about the
um the coina Rock and I read the report and it said they did not when they did the bore holes did not find as much coina as they expected I also talked to the people in Riverwalk who that's a new community right down there in the middle of that area and they hit no coina at
all when they put the sewer in for Riverwalk which I found very interesting and um so so many PE and that was from Dr Horton um so many of our uh constituents that I've talked to just don't
understand why in the world there's any dispute on this project at all uh there's plenty of grant money you can go back and get more once you show I saw I watched when the city manager went before the Soros
people and uh they wanted to know why we had not applied for other grants because there are so many uh so many groups out there wanting us to do this and of the 20 projects that have been done so far in the county not one has cost one
homeowner a dime to get hooked up and that is a total of 2,692 homes so far that have been hooked up so uh it just boggles my mind why in the world we are still sitting here discussing this
when it should be sewer one and done get it over with and let's modernize Coco I mean this is our Legacy people and amen it just something that we need to do and you can tell I'm a little passionate about it so thank you for listening
thank you very much Deputy Mayor weits I think we all are passionate about it especially just like you stating having to listen to your constituents and I have to as well Mr city manager yes sir Mr man I don't I don't
know how you want us to begin on this but we have the the staff report I think we need to clarify um the sharps Soro projects and and those are that's a joint effort between the county
and the city but the city um is not expensing that project and so Mr Walsh can explain that project uh because again it was represented that uh that we are uh somehow subsidizing
that and we're not and so I'll have them start hearing I'll I'll have Mr Walsh start with explaining what we're doing with regards to the Soro projects in Sharps okay thank you sir yeah um I was approached about I don't know a year and
a half ago by the utilities director from this from the barard county uh they obviously there's a number you know the J andk designations are from the tetr report there's are ABC they have the sharps area which is north of 528 along
uh Indian River uh Drive US1 area that that that whole Zone but out of the city limits and uh the the county does not have any sewer in that area whatsoever uh obviously they had some projects designated by the Saar Indian River
Lagoon analysis that was done by tretch basically for anybody who is connected directly to the river including those Sharps areas and so on and so uh the utilities director said well you know we could get obviously we have Grant monies on the table as well just like we have it for J and K uh he asked
if it would be possible in the future instead of us building new infrastructure to take that sewer away like a lift station and a force Main and so on uh we have a force main that's nearby uh that's serving some of the individual if you know we don't have a
contiguous smooth area of our outside Northern limit for the city we have some pockets and we have some utility infrastructure that reaches up in that area he asked if that we would be interested in treating that flow if they were simply collecting it like in and taking care of the other side of it uh I
talked to the city manager at that time uh we also even engaged our rate consultant to develop a what we would call a bulk wastewater treatment rate because we don't have a way to build them uh we wouldn't have any costs other than would be to treat the waste they
would take care of the infrastructure they would take care of the citizens that are part of a Bard so if they had a problem they call Bard and we don't we don't have any interest in that uh we would only be taking the flow uh I alerted the city uh attorney at that time too that we would eventually need
an agreement uh to take that flow uh I could also uh uh probably just maybe maybe not speculate but but there is also a regional wastewater treatment plant that's been kicking around for Bard cape canaval and others because they are really running out of capacity
and they're looking at kind of the Port St John area I haven't even talked to the utilities director I have a feeling that that connection might even just be temporary meaning if they end up building a Wastewater Treatment Plant say in the next five or six years or or even a quicker time frame they may end
up being able to go more quickly and directly to their own plant than going to ours and so that might end up being incorporated into the agreement meaning hey if we if we need have the need and we do the project we'll send it to Coco with a connection at whatever point we have our own treatment plant that's
close enough nearby they might end up or they may not I I don't really know but by the way all of that would still need to come before Council because right now it's only really just a verbal agreement and a verbal discussion that I've had with the utilities director to understand whether or not we have a place that we might be able to take that
flow and of course the city council would have to approve that agreement and attorney would have to work on the terms and conditions and so on and so on but but in in nothing associated with that would uh cost the citizens uh or the existing rate payers of the sewer of the the water system anything uh because
they would have to pay their PR Rider share that's all I have so so M Mr chairman and we we again as you said and and as you all have advised we we've been here before and so again just let me take you through the for and format
I'm having a really hard time hearing I could hear this gentleman perfectly well put on you for thank you can you turn me up a little bit I'll get closer to the mic is that better so so we've we've attempted to to
modify a little bit and simplify the agenda report we gave you the history of the uh the half penny sales tax which I'm I'm very familiar with because in August of 2016 I was this the county manager as the uh the coun as the the
County Commission was considering this and so um so worked on that so we gave you the history of it we gave you um and again the tetratech study was produced so that there would be some science
behind the projects uh uh in the in the uh associated with the sales tax with the infrastructure sales tax and that recommended two different approaches to improving the lagoon one was the advanced septic system Replacements and
one obviously is the SE septic to sewer and so that's not a staff recommendation with regards to Advanced septic that is uh the consultant who recommended that as a possible solution um J&K as a
septic to sewer was um was uh was a approved or was pursued because there was gravity sewer nearby the technology for boring was available to bore through coina Rock um and early discussions the
county centered around the project being completely funded through the soral tax revenues there and so that's how we get to uh staff designing it as a septic to sewer now in terms of the science of cocain a rock there Mr Mr Walsh can
speak a whole lot better than I can but you can go uh from from uh this spot in the room to the door uh this spot may not contain coina and the spot near the door may contain coina and so so again
um that that's that's again you know it all just depends on uh the Topography of the land and and what's underneath the ground there and so ultimately this is a decision uh the council must make and must address several policy matters and
I think that's why we we are still here today and those are obviously who pays for any potential cost overrun and identify who pays who's going to be responsible for the cost overruns uh potential cost overruns it will it be
the homeowners in the project area or will will it be the rate payers uh for the regional utility this is a regional utility with uh how many customers Jack 92,000 92,000 on the water side and like
8,500 on the sewer yeah so 90 92 on the water side 8,500 on the sewer side and so we are primarily a water utility approximately 90 plus% of our revenues are from water uh and then the the the
the small percentages from uh sewer and so again it's important uh we believe for the council to determine who's going to fund uh the potential cost overrun runs uh can and will the council and how will they
mandate uh connections uh the mandates uh are they going to mandate mandatory connection because again if you think about this there's there's house number one and at the end of the line there's house number 88 and so you
would be putting out to bid a line that Services house number one and house number 88 and Sor will fund that line which again um goes from a start point to an end point but if uh houses in the
middle choose not to connect then Sor is going to actually claw back those dollars but you're still on the hook to the uh to the uh the construction company for the full cost of that program uh full cost of that project and
so and so again that's why the mandatory hookup is important because ultimately the mandatory hookup allows you to cover the full cost of the project and it's a it's a fairness and an equity issue uh what's the penalty for um not
complying with the mandatory connection requirement are there going to be any penalties associated with not complying because again Sor is going to claw back based on uh those that don't hook up um and then how will you address
non-compliance all of those have been addressed in the in the Agenda Report here um and so the three things that you asked us to uh to uh provide information on we have uh at the January 17th
meeting of the Soro committee um the request was for to fund any potential cost overrun uh that request was uh recommended against unanimously um you can say that a number
of different ways but again they were not um considering fund fing the request for any additional to fund any additional cost overrun whatever they may be and then you you have in the discussion the mandatory connection
discussion you have the enforcement measure discussion um and so uh I'll leave it at that Mr Mayor and and perhaps taking the cards and and answering any questions that may come out of that thank you very much Mr city manager uh councilman Herm
would you like to address your issue you rather listen to the constituents and the audience I'll go ahead and I'll listen to the constituencies first okay first on the list uh Frank sull thank you Mr Mayor name is Frank
Sullivan 1705 North indan ner Drive I've lived there for all my life uh I keep hearing so many negative things from this Council and from Mr Walsh over here let me
remind you you've done the the sewer from the south border of Coco city limits to the 859 on Indian River Drive you had C then and they got they could take they took care of it then certainly you've got
some knowledge on how to take care of c c day uh they didn't go any further than that cuz there weren't any houses until you got to uh Dixon Boulevard and Dixon Boulevard uh suddenly got sewer why cuz
the Bartman house up the up the street couldn't flush their toilets the next subdivision couldn't flush their to toilets City figured out how to put sewer in would you be closer to the microphone um so anyway the money's out
there you keep coming up with excuses I thought that there was it would be mandatory everybody would have to have to hook up and that's the way it ought to be we're not trying to you know the last time I was here you worried about
adding to value of the houses on drive that's ridiculous we're trying to save the Lagoon it's the biggest asset City Coco has your city limits along the Lagoon it's it's the perfect place to live and we've got to do something to
help make it a better place to live and the money's out there I can't everybody says the money's out there except for the city of Coco you keep wondering about where the money is we were all taxed for everything we
bought to clean up the Lagoon and the money's out there so I just implore you I beg you to make the decision the right decision to clean up the Lagoon and stop putting all these excuses up and and
reasons why you you don't want to do it I don't understand that the money's out there thank you next Janice Smith you got a question Mr s come back to the podium
please um so what what what's your recommendation for those who choose not to uh commit what what is your recommendation for what that punishment may be I don't think it should be a punishment I just don't think it should be a choice you're going to either do it
and everybody does it uh because you're not you're not gaining anything by letting some people do it and some people not do it we've all paid into the tax to do it and if one or two people are not going to
choose to hook up that shouldn't be a choice okay but you say that it shouldn't be a choice but then you don't give a punishment so I'm just I'm just trying to understand the logic um if they're not going to commit themselves what's going to force them if that line
is in front of their house what is going to force them to do this what would force you to do it if you didn't if you said I'm not the hell with the city I am not committing myself to this situation cuz we know there are some
inside of that 88 okay what what do we say to those homeowners I just I I'm having trouble with that too just like what you said hey look I don't want to punish anybody but what is going to what is going to push them overboard to commit themselves to the project what
would you say to those people if they were going over the 25 M speed limit on any road and they say well I'm going to go 40 m an hour that's not good for the people everybody else that lives there so you're going to make that
person go 25 miles an hour too okay all right that a good analysis I'll take it I have no choice best I can give up all right thank you I appreciate it okay Janet
Smith Janice Smith 2107 Claremont Drive Coco Florida mayor Blake Council council members and staff this agenda agenda item of converting septic to sewer along the Indian River Drive is very important
for the health of the Indian River and for all of Coco's residents this may be one of the most important items you all will ever vote on because it will affect generations to come the residents of rard voted and
passed the tax to do just this so that shows that people want it they want conversion of septic to sewer along the river so it can enhance the health of the Indian River now other municipalities have applied
for these grants and gotten it and bards um presently we have been designated as having the poorest water quality in Bard along the river this puts a blight on
Coco is being Far Behind these other M municipalities that have taken the ad advantage of this grant money at present Coco adds 37,1 129 pounds of waste material in the
river every year now the enhanced and advanced septic which Coco seems to be offering as an option still emits 35% of that poundage cocoa would still be leaking
one 29,548 quality along Coco Indian River a person in City's reputation is very important and can be defined by a single action and this could be the action that defines Coco and the city
council reputation is based on action which is based on values and so what are we valuing are we valuing continuing to dump this waste into the
river I hope not now I'm hoping that you vote Yes to benefit the river and the residents of Coco and apply for the generous grants
that are out there to convert septic to sewer thank you thank you very much V Teran Toronto like the city man well brother I don't know if that's
a okay Mr Toronto thank you very I know my mouth writing isn't so good sir I'll try to get better we're man we're good man I do want to challenge you to an ax throwing contest whenever you're ready let's do this brother man good morning mayor Deputy Mayor and councel uh my
name is Vinnie Toronto and I was the chair of the uh save our need M Lagoon just an oversight committee back in January um and have served on the committee for eight years so I wanted to come up here to Avail myself to you all
for any questions to further be able to explain our discussions and our votes um I was on the committee uh Stockton was it three years ago when you guys came asking I believe um for uh the initial
contingency amount and you know we struggled with that vote because we have an appreciation for what you all are dealing with and the county as a whole we don't want people to have to decide between getting septic or sewer and getting food on
their table we understand that and we understand you all as elected people elected officials have constituents that you all are way closer to than we will ever be so we appreciate where you are we understand where you are and the reason that we unanimously said no this
time to this request was it was about a 50% um increase on what the project had originally been funded at the way the project works for those that don't know and it really is brilliant is we pay per
pound of nitrogen removed so that way a project up in Titusville versus a project in South County is based on the same way we don't want people saying we're pulling favoritism one way or another a pound of nitrogen is worth this amount and unfortunately with the
economy and inflation and prices it's just gone up tremendously so the reason that this time we had voted unanimously no the discussion was based around the fact that there hadn't been any outside
grants acquired I know you all had looked for a legislative appropriation this past year I believe and it was vetoed by the governor and uh unfort that's an unfortunate event I think there's a veto overhaul or process um but there is also the governor's $1
million um that they are putting forward for the Lagoon um and so I think um that there are opportunities out there and I as an ex-member of sorl um having served my years would would recommend that you all
look at some grant funding um we're all together in this and you all are all together in this and we want this project to succeed and if there was a closer number and a closer amount and that needed to come back to sorl I think it might might be looked at maybe in a
more positive light um as Stockton said you guys have a whole bunch of policies that you're going to have to look to to deal with this um I do know that there are other municipalities in the counties who have looked at mandatory connections there are separate ways to separate mandatory connections whether it's
gravity fed whether it's force fed whether it's location so anyways I just wanted to make myself available thank you for continuing on this project and trying uh and we do appreciate that so if there's any questions let me know we have a light on Deputy Mayor weeks yeah
I was going to ask you that very thing I know in uh looking into it most of the um projects uh it's been mandatory that the owners had to hook up there wasn't a choice but then it didn't cost them anything to do it either um so I just wondered what you had uh what some of
the others had done as far as to um what was the uh to force the homeowners I guess I think most of them are willing to do it but was there you know what do you know about that so Deputy Mayor that is a a policy decision that the Soro
funding we didn't get involved in you didn't know what any of the cities did we looked at the project and as as Stockton said we pay per pound and so if the quote is for 88 connections 91 connections and you end up less then
your pounds of nitrogen reduced from going into the Lagoon would be less meaning the reimburse M amount is less um but there are other municipalities I can tell you my parents who built in South mour Beach they actually paid for sewer for years even when they had only had a septic because there was a
mandatory connection and even though they weren't connected they had to pay for it um so there are there are different policies I think throughout the county most recently and other municipality I believe Palm Bay did maybe a year or two ago did mandate connections and there were many
residents that were not happy about it and I I understand that um but I as somebody who is a longtime Advocate Lagoon I really do think sewer wear available is going to be preferential um I I I don't know if this
is going to happen but we now have a 2030 limit where if you have a septic tank you will have to be upgraded to an advanced septic tank and if you put in advance now who's to say that in another 20 years there's not going to be another mandate saying that you've got to
upgrade y if you can do it I think that is preferable um for the Lagoon um and for the homeowner but we did not get involved in those policy decisions because we were strictly trying to stay to the funding yeah yeah well by on the same thing with the 2030 they either
have to if they have sewer available they have to hook up so the state's mandating it regardless I think it's gravity fed and that's why there are some there are some areas of gray because you don't forcing somebody to get a pump and then have a backup like you talked about Electric
that's a much higher expense than just an advanced septic that was on the advanced septic that can roll in yeah so okay thank you you're welcome going here yeah I I it was just more so is I appreciate uh always having a phone call
with you um I appreciate you always taking that call uh on places where I am ignorant to man you deliver sweet potato pie I will always take your call I will always take was it good that whole week man I was rashing
it to make it last it was delicious that that that's really all all I had M I think um you've been very good at agreeing to disagree uh and listening uh to whoever call you and so I just want to show your appreciation for that so the only way we
all move forward is together and so that's I truly believe in that y thank you Mr yeah you're welcome thank you all yes sir next Miss Linda dolphin I just hi everybody I am Linda dolphin
I've been before this group for every single time that it's been before you as an agenda item I live in Coco at 2100 North Indian River Drive I am part of project um I guess I am proud of Jay or K I can't even remember because they are
really toally to totally they're totally two separate projects they don't even have to be combined as one you can vote on Jay or you could vote on K because there's a half a mile uh in between that already has sewer so I don't want to you know
I've written many emails to you you've seen them all week I really appreciate your attention to this but I thought what I would do now is just really thank the people that have been champions of this project and of course my good friend lorine C and I started out on this four years ago when she said it was
the septic to sewer project was going to come before the council and there was no public information prior to that I guess in 2020 during covid there had been some meetings and then I see there was supposedly a survey I live on Indian Drive I got no notification I would say
it was probably covid and I wasn't here my mail probably wasn't forwarded but so I knew nothing about it so she said well why don't I think I said let's get together some Community meetings we can bring in The Bard people and really understand it because I knew nothing about it had no predisposed inclination
to do either and I will tell you right now whether I'm on septic or swer makes zero difference to me it will not impact My Lifestyle when I OTA but I think it's good for the river so Lorraine helped tremendously in setting up these meetings we had two meetings for the entire Community we sent out mail
because we asked the city if they wanted to attend I really I will say this and I can uh I can show it but neither Mr Whitten or Mr w responded to our invitations to attend these meetings um Mr Walsh showed up at the second meeting
a little late um but I never heard from either one of them um I will say the champion was Leander Hearn his constituents were part of the project lorine C they were there all the time for the meetings where we began to learn about what this system could provide to
the community um I think Alex even attended one of the meetings so my real champions of this are Pat weeks who can continues to push it Forward because Lorraine cost cannot I mean what a tremendous asset to this community to Leander Hearn for always voting for this
for Alex go for always voting for this they are our true Champions and I think they should be recognized I appreciate you so much thank you very much my only recommendation for tonight is that you go ahead and actually send this project
out to bid apply for Grants every other project that you've done that is come in over budget guess what you just don't fund it I know you're concerned about cost overruns but why is that a consideration for tonight when it's never come up on any of your other projects let's figure out how to fund a
cost overrun that we don't even know we may have before we vote on a project I don't understand that you haven't done it before I see this as another way to postpone or not go ahead with subject toour thank you very
much okay next um lawren C good evening Lawrence C I'm a Coco resident I'm going to bring up some things that nobody else is talking about and one of the things that concerns me is that when we clean our bathrooms and
we clean our sinks chemicals go down into our septic tank where does that go to the Lagoon you know a lot of people are on medications Pharmaceuticals that goes into the septic tank that goes into the Lagoon I had chemotherapy that goes into
the Lagoon and it makes people sterile so if you think chemotherapy makes a person sterile what is it going to do to the fish the manatees think about that the nutrient is important that's what the 7.2 is for but think about the
additional things that are going in there the other thing is this is not just about 88 homes if you put a main line on any River Drive then you have 400 houses that can hook up later so this is an opportunity for the city to
to get this in place so now you have 488 homes that are no longer getting chemicals and pharmaceuticals into the Lagoon the other thing is it's been said before this is a return on investment
the Lagoon is an economic engine and if if I hear it's like seven times so if 7-Eleven was selling scratch off for a dollar and you were guaranteed $7 back people would be flooding 7-Eleven to buy
these guaranteed seven times and the other the last thing I'll say for those of you who believe in God and you you call yourself a Christian you know in the Bible it says we need to be good stewards of our
Earth so for those reasons you should vote Yes because it's the right thing to do thank you any questions thank you go on your light is on is it still
on Sir okay um and it's Pete olivaria yes sir 2515 McFarland Drive thank you all for yeah Pete oliv area thank you all for giving this important issue so much
consideration and I'm glad to see that from all the speakers thus far it seems to be that we're pretty unanimous in agreeing that the Lagoon is very important to all of us so it's now just a matter of trying to figure out how to collectively put our heads together and try to solve this and one thing that I
was wondering about was the uh the latest bid I saw on the summary that you put together Mr Whitten I think was from 2020 so you have to lend this point why don't we get another bid why don't we get this updated and go back to you know sorl and ask the question you know based
on the new bid you know maybe hopefully it'll be lower you know but you know assuming even if it's not have that information say would there be an opportunity to Inc increase that and it sounds like from what the gentleman said earlier it's all based on how many houses so maybe put out the query on
that how many folks I mean it's 88 homes from what I understand how many actually are going to agree to do it just from the initial blush and if that number is high then I think this the city will have a good confidence level that this is going to be a workable solution and
to Mr C's point at that point then you hook it into the uh to the remaining homes I I don't live on the river I wouldn't be affected but if you gave me the opportunity to go to septic as everybody else said to save our Lagoon I would take that so I think maybe that's
something that we should just try to keep this momentum going and try to get this issue resolved don't walk away from it it's too important to all of us to our grandchildren and you know to us who are wanting to save this lagum because it can come back it's starting to and it can do it uh Mr attorney do you have any
any insight as to the mandatory do you have any previous experience why we can't just say let's make it mandatory have you researched that Mr chair yes sir you want me to address that yes sir Pete technically you can
address me oh yes sir I'm sorry wor I don't have a whole lot of experience on this that's why he gave me that look yes sir esquad Gan please sir thank you yes I've looked at that issue and um it's in the in the staff report that you know the city can't impose a mandatory
connect connection on J andk uh project Property Owners I mean in my opinion there's a there's a way to do that okay that's that's good news that's all I had thank you very much thank you very much sir okay any other cards in the
audience come to the podium Please Mr Smith my name is James Smith uh 2107 Claremont Drive I've lived there 45 years now um I heard that there was some concern about how you would force people
to go onto the septic system and if you don't choose to go a septic to sewer then the alternative would be um Advanced septic and my question is
how are you going to force people to go to ex Advanced septic I certainly am not going to go to Advan septic because it's a waste of time and money my money so the same mechanism that you
might consider forcing me to go to advance septic is what you should put on the other people thank you okay do we have any other additional
cards I know you have a question um councilman Hearns let me close this portion to the public return it to council all right sir y okay um can I hear from the city manager you want to go first yeah so I was going to finish up
uh our presentation and and and Mr Mayor and I and I get it you know it's these things always seem to be personal lines to staff and so I promise uh staff that I would always uh defend their professional reputations and
professional character uh and certainly you know the comment that Mr Walsh has said negative things is absolutely not uh correct and so uh Jack has presented the policy questions for this Council to
consider we've repeated those policy question questions there and I'll pass down ordinance number 26- 84 which actually says that those folks who are benefiting from uh from uh
any system improvements have to pay for those improvements and so Jack has simply uh reinforced or presented to you the policy position uh via ordinance of
this Council and it and it says that uh you must pay for the benefit that is uh that is specific to you that's uh ordinance uh 26- 84 um and so I give you that as again an
example of that's all Jack has done Jack has never said to me that he is not in favor of this he is uh he will he will March to the orders of of the council and so generically there an ordinance
that says that uh um the beneficiaries beneficiaries of uh of uh improvements pay for those improvements there and so more specifically in um in uh 2000 there's a
subdivision that actually uh had sewer installed and actually was required to pay a connection fee fee and so I'm I'm I I gave you and I'm giving you resolution
number 200 number 2000-06 and and if you read the body of that it says a resolution of the city council declaring that the city council has completed a certain infrastructure expansion to its sanitary sewer system to provide Sewer Service to several
properties located along along North and South Indian Circle in the Indian Hill subdivision and Mr Mr Mr Beach can show you where that subdivision is and so
again this is recouping the impact of uh that project there this is this is a 2000 resolution give that to Jack and so in in 2000 you'll note from
the resolution that uh sewer was run for this subdivision and in this resolution the residents the homeowners were charged a connection fee and so Mr W again has has
not been negative he's just said you have um policy positions you have policy requirements you have uh um via ordinance you have a requirement again for those who are benefiting from the
Improvement toay pay for the Improvement that bears out in the in the 84 generic ordinance but but most particularly in the resolution associated with this particular project and it's there in black and white and
again time in time we've just simply reiterated those uh those policy matters to the council again in this Agenda Report um and Mr uh Vinnie was very fair in terms of uh uh the presentation to
the to the Soro committee I didn't ask for a specific number uh a dollar amount I just simply forwarded to them your request to fund any cost overruns and so and I can give to you the Agenda Report
from the from the the board of County Commissioners where the uh the uh the referendum and the question was approved by the council and you can see thatw is the same SW that I use today and so I've
been there day one uh with regards to this particular initiative uh you can see that there is no space in between myself as the then County Manager in Virginia Barker as the department director there was no assistant uh uh
County manager at that particular point in time and so staff is neutral in regards to all of this and waiting for the direction of the council again believing that there are uh four three or four policy questions
that have to be answered and so let me talk about the Broadmore Acres project and as you know that the Broadmore Acres project was initially bid out and the bid came back over what was allocated
from um from FEMA and from the city that we in turn went back to FEMA asked them for additional dollars to actually rebid that FEMA granted those additional dollars we rebid it and it came in under
the budgeted amount and so and so local government um they don't they don't put out bids without having some reasonable expectation that those projects can and will be funded this project has never been bid I think the gentleman said that
we previously had a bid uh price we've not had a bid on this because we've never sent it to bid that was an engineers's uh um um estimate of magnitude there and so and so again we had the engineer upon the uh upon the
90% design guess at what that uh that um the project would come in that but we've never bid this and again we stand ready for any questions but again we believe strongly that there are policy matters that you must address address prior to
um putting this out to bid or in uh concurrent with making a decision on how you go forward with this project okay um based on this diagram here sir this picture how many homes are there that
were directly impact that that paid for the upgrade of this um from septic to sewer how many homes roughly they all paid for it out of their own
pocket a connection resolution AMS are so now if there is a short fall who pays for the overage of the over cost well the citizens on the
utilities um Network pay for it so if I live on a structured income say a senior citizen say even on Cape canaval because we provide them with water or even a a senior citizen in Diamond
square or even ourselves will be paying too if this happens to take place it's it's a it's a regional utility and so as Mr Walsh said you have
about approximately 70,000 water customers and but you all haven't answered that question that's the first policy question that we've asked who would pay for any cost overruns would it be the 88 homeowners or would it be
spread throughout the system Again by way of example in Indian Hill they paid for their own impact so so so again but that's the first policy question that we've posed to to the city council who pays for the cost over over run overruns
or potential cost overruns but again it it is a regional water utility and so if it's if it's not directly paid for by the 88 homeowners it's spread throughout the regional uh water utility and the rate payers within that Regional water
utility so someone else will be absorbing this cost and it does not directly impact them in other words since it's on a regional system um I have a question to the audience how many individuals in this room right now
reside at on any River Drive that live on j and k um one two one per household let me say it that way okay one two three
three out of 88 people only three just ask out 88 people is three can somebody give me the percentage of that so if I divide 88 into three it's going to be 0 something something just something right correct
yes and have out of the 88 how many I I I've talked to several of the 88 that reside there ma'am and S and they were saying they already paid for the advanced septic system they do not want to convert over because it then it's a
double whammy and that's a policy we would have to look at to as well more than one more than one are you and that's my my my concern I'm talking to my city manager ma' right now oh I thought you were asking your audience no no
ma'am talking to my seat history I'm sorry Mr Sullivan have a seat please sir have a seat please I'll give you the opportunity to speak sir have a seat another it was I will give you the opportunity to speak just have a seat
sir thank you so I'm just saying look at the facts that's all I'm saying I I had a question for something you said okay go ahead so I I just want to be clear so you have talked to Residents C that's currently
in that area that have already purchased within the probably last year or two already have purchased new Advanced systems right septic systems okay um can you ask any of my questions Mr city
manager if you're at liberty C can you give me give me the questions again yes sir um I I looked at the number of individuals in here I looked at three four maybe in the household I even say five um that reside at jnk so if I
divide 88 into five what would be the percentage of that right now you mean three of three of 88 is what percentage yes I usually let Mrs Bowman do do the math for me I know it's going to be 0 something
something set it a little louder please3 and then I I I can add several other names that already paid in advance for septic the advanced septic system and they do not want to convert over so that's a dilemma on a policy we we must
deal with within itself and then if then if you really want to do it for whomever then why don't you do a special assessment you can charge it you can absorb it those that will be directly impact that's all can I say something with what
you just said certainly ma'am okay in I'm coming I'm com thank and this is not the IM breis swept when they did that from septic to s had a home listed for sale in there the septic went KY they wound up having to buy a new septic
system but then once the sewer went in they had to hook up to the Sewer even though their new septic system was only six months old it happens and that's what they were saying yep but in Long Run septic is our
s that's the gamble we take that's the gamble we take when we invest in a home yes yes we do a lot of those homes right there on the Indian River Drive how old are they 20s 30s pop believe in more than
that manam because as a kid ring up and down Indian River Drive on the school bus from St Mary's I would see it daily so I know I'm a cooco so I understand okay councilman Hearns the floor is yours sir all right sorry and I thank
you for your patience sir no worries so um what I would like to do I would like to make a motion to move forward with the sew project um and these are terms and conditions I'm asking for
uh so go for for a bid mandate all 88 homes to hook up um utilize all available Grant monies any overages to be paid for by the homeowners of the 88 property properties through a uh
combination of a one-time hookup fee and maybe a special assessment that could pay that depth down over time um use all state and local remedies as stated in our paperwork that we can utilize um to enforce those mandatory
hookups um to address any non compliance and uh i' like to see if I can get any support by the councel on that second conversation motion on the floor M Monica did you get his
comments got them one more time please just so we can get them in the records my motion my motion states to move forward with the sewage uh jnk sewage project uh mandate all 88 homes
to hook up utilize all available Grant monies for the project any overages to be paid for by the homeowners of the 88 properties uh through a combination of a onetime
hookup fee and a special assessment to pay the depbt down over time um also use state and local remedies is stated in the information we receive for enforcement of any non-compliance and that's it I got it
got it and we have a second by M weeks and we're open for discussion councilman go yes sir um so I I just had a a a question about the motion so we don't know what that overage could possibly be and
so what would you consider um because we don't know everyone's financial situation right just because people live on the river doesn't necessarily mean they have $100,000 ready to spend right and so
will you consider giving them time to pay whatever that may be yeah over time so you say can you I just in my mind I'm thinking you might need to put a a a number to it just in my opinion anyway I would rather let staff
uh you know put the numbers together and come up with an appropriate time frame uh maybe for that one time connection fee but as far as the special assessment that could be paid through utilities over time um I I don't I can't calculate
that math but I'm sure it can be done uh but I think paying it off over time would be less burden less of a burden on those homeowners do do special assessments go on the tax bill um they can go on the tax bill as
you know the city has several special assessments right Stone water fire they go on the non avalum tax bill in the staff report we talked about you know how to you know not only is there mandatory connection but if there's if there's going to be a charge how do you
right mandate payment and the best tool to mandate payment is through um special assessment so as councilman Hearn has indicated I mean there would need to be a financial workup based on um you know
the bids and and available Grant funds right to determine what that assessment would be but the best enforcement mechanism to collect those assessments is through the use of non-ad tax bill and that would
require yet another action there going to be it would be a whole series of actions in a local agreement with tax collector to collect the non avalum assessment all the things we've done in the past so but for now this is but for now this
this this direction if this was the direction of the council again find a lot of fin financial analysis a lot of legal instruments would have to be you know created we'd have to come back you know this you know what was done back in 2000 was um like a special assessment
connection charge that was recorded against the land to guarantee payment so all those things would be put in place at a at a later time okay is that it sir uh that's it okay uh Deputy man weeks and then
councilman uh thank you I I agree with what you've uh what you put forward obviously I've seconded it so um and hopefully it won't come to that because since nobody else has had
to pay a charge I mean a hookup fee that we will have enough grants to do it all but thank you okay Council mes uh I'm I'm I'm good if if um if if if councilman Hearn wants to go
with allowing staff to give that time to give that time I think that's fair um again because I I do understand everybody's situation is different um to to to expect someone to pay 10 grand you know
right away I'm I'm just saying a number but um cuz it may be nothing as far as we know but but but if we we whatever that number comes for that over we won't know that until at the end of the project anyway so that's another
problem gotta start somewhere is that it sir um yes sir so so that's my motion I stated but as far as the policy side uh that would have to come back to the council once more correct and it'll be more polished um
for the public correct I mean there's a lot that would have to come back's a lot there I understand it'll be a process but um I'm really I'm really trying to get past the the whole notion of just because something is tough and hard and we can't do it um I know we
[Applause] got I know we we got well capable staff um we we got a lot of good staff here and my hope is we can make it happen so thank you okay we have a motion on the
floor um ch's going call the question all in favor to saying I I any Nays let the record reflect nay for me that I am not in favor of this and the reason why the burdens is going to be passed on to other
individuals who do not reside there who will speak out against paying and increase and it it affects the regional water systems and it subsidized 88 individuals who reside there and that's not fair to individuals that do not live
there and that is the reason why it's not a but I'm just saying what I feel but I only reason I I ask to say something is I don't believe that's a true
statement because inside of his motion he already stated that it's going to be towards those 88 homes those are the individuals that would be affected with the project he now I could be wrong CRA I'm wrong but I
just let us let us just go back over the motion and what was approved right and and let me say it another way through the funding how do you help those that recruit who've already invested how do you help them recruit their loss and because there there will be stipulations
on that yeah that's true I know it's true because it's already been documented but let's move forward I I'm that individual out there on that 10 pound branch and I will fight for those that are unheard and not have the opportunity to speak and for those that
already invested in their system and now they may have to um be forced to join again depending on the scenario and what's the guidelines for each Grant and that's what I stand okay so Mr Mayor if I may just to make
sure we got the the motion there it's it so it's a in terms of the question of who pays for the cost overrun the cost overrun will be born by the 88 um home sites in the J&K project
area um it is a mandatory connection for the 88 homeowners in the J&K project area um it is um um the penalties are
uh basically enforced through a special assessment uh and we've not talked about how that yeah special assessment occurs there I'm going to tell you I'm going to suggest that that is on the tax bill we've not
suggested the term uh for that special assessment um and also there's a connection fee component of it um and again uh a lot of lot of work to bring back to the council but I think those
are the the the nuts and bolts of the action and I'll stand corrected by anybody who heard differently on that uh Mr city manager I may have missed it but was the motion mandatory connections just for the homeowners and J&K yeah
just for the Ada okay okay this concludes this portion of counsel we will proceed forward to reports do we have any reports still here I didn't see where she was sitting so years 15 years over
reports I no no city manager do you have any reports sir C attorney you have any reports no sir okay um who goes first councilman Hearns uh it's one and three three and
one who would like to go first oh I did go um so Saturday I attended the um Family Promise of bravard event um which is again like if most people already know
the old fire station one um that's immediately behind the uh water Coco water tower uh great event uh they raised a lot lot of money I think they raised $166,000 in 15 minutes um and so
a beautiful thing to support uh not just families inside of Coco but families uh throughout Bard um I have a a Android so my pictures are pretty horrible um but but this
show I can't afford an iPhone uh yeah so this is some some of the photos um again a horrible picture again um his black history program at CoCo High School this was Saturday night
um great event uh it was a fundraiser for the cheerleaders of Koco High School um they had a food truck rally all kind of stuff at KOCO High great job by all of the residents uh in the area um this is one of my former uh football players
he's now a uh artist he does Christian rap now in Atlanta Georgia um his name is shami now I don't even know it's I can't really say it but uh yeah I think uh but but great great to see him
uh again good to see young people you know doing things positive in the community um that that that's really really all I had I I appreciate a lot of the um conversation uh throughout the last two weeks with uh good and bad uh
on this J andk Project I think I think people really just need to understand that we we just because we made not agree on certain things doesn't mean that um it should be disrespectful or or nasty towards one another I think we just need
to dialogue and um and hopefully we can get to where we you know the citizens choose we need to be um and that's not talking to the council I just talking citizens in general um advocacy is a part of what we do um but sometimes it
steps over the line and then some people try to unsell the car when they send 30 7,000 emails um but but again I I I appreciate um the dialogue um and I I had one thing I sent it to a city
manager earlier as well uh this this Chief Collier um we got a RV that's parked at the 5 acre parcel right um they've been there for a while right uh it's not a RV Park
and one of the best questions I had today is where are they dumping their waste if the RV is not being moved and so that's a concern of mine and I think I really want that RV to be gone as quick as possible U CU they've been
sitting out in lawn chairs they just hanging out okay where's it at now that is at the five vehicle paru forest and okay yeah all right we'll look into it thank you sir I'm good so is it to me okay no I I don't have
any pictures because I just got back from a a conference in Orlando um but I did want to ask I've brought it up before all the trucks around the Flying J that are waiting to go to Walmart they're on the onoff ramps all over
around 524 and 95 I know technically 524 is not a city road but I mean those semis are everywhere is there anything at all that we can do I've got constituents calling
me about it why doesn't Coco do something about it and uh I said well it's not really our roads but is there anything that we can do I mean you can hardly get through that intersection anymore because of all the semis especially at
night I can for that concern again to F dot I think we did it in the pass so so I'll do that again I mean Walmart's got plenty of parking that big you know back there so I don't understand so I just wanted to bring that up and um that's
about all I have this time okay who's next EV uh well let me just start um by based on our last agenda item um I have um something
interesting um I was informed that last Thursday on NPR they had an interview of Representative salsman who's the house chair and they are they have a panel
that is reviewing the6 Appropriations request from last year of which 4 million was for the Coco J&K project of those 160 only 22 made the
cut and are being considered for veto overrides um quote projects eyed for overrides included 4 million to convert 88 homes in coko City from septic systems to Central Sewer Service
now I looked all over I don't know how to find the status of the Appropriations but we should be following that un let you know something yeah I'm I'm I'm following that that that is that's a fight between between the legislature
and the governor and so I was I was aware of that I was made aware of that by our state lobbyists and so um um I've not gotten a call from the state budget office and so I I think we stay out of it and and let them fight their fight up
in Tallahasse and keep our fingers crossed that's about the only thing we can do because again you know that that cropped up when there was a when there was a some tension between the legislature and the governor and so
let's see how far they get with it okay well out of 160 we made the cut for 22 so that is at least a good sign um so the other thing that through this whole process and thinking about this today and learning about the work that
the county is doing with our utility department where they're using the soral funds and the grant funds to lay lines and then we'll you know hook up I also was have been working with the
um the county planners about Clear Lake we're planning a Clear Lake community meeting on March 25th and one of the questions I was asked is because they using cdgb funds and they're looking at getting
seage and as when you look at this map look at the white the white holes the jigsaw puzzle pieces that are so essential to being able to um really turn around the image and and um enrich
this area that is is going to be as I like to call it the new Uptown of Coco where the bright Line station is going to be so when I was reading through the comp plan it appeared that you do not um
you don't you don't necessarily get annexed in if you get sewage somebody give me a definitive on that the comp plan talked about agreements um it didn't talk about that
you have to be part Incorporated in order to get seage yeah my understanding councilwoman cost is a is if a development outside the city limits is seeking sewer from
this from the city then they need to sign an annexation agreement that would come into effect only when they become contiguous with the uh the remainder of the city or the existing City boundary so the parcel that are in between would have to come in and then based on that
signed agreement once they become contiguous they are automatically brought into the city okay so all puzzle pieces that we see would have to be annexed in order to get sewage right I'm sorry then so what you're
saying is those jigsaw puzzle pieces that are unincorporated they are contiguous would have to be annexed in order to get storage no what I'm saying is is that is that if an enclave that's outside the
city boundary by itself it wants sewer and we agree to do that right we take it in and we sign the they sign the agreement to say well we'll Annex in when we become contiguous the parcels in between the existing right boundary and where they are yes have to be filled in
and I understand that what about these the look at District Four and the three holes well actually it's two that could be affected on Clear Lake Road do those have to be they they don't have an annexation agreement and no but if they
were the only way they could get seage would be to get an annexation agreement right I don't I I don't know where they get the current sew whether we're providing it or in some areas the county provides deping on where they are that's that's what the county is looking at how they can get them sewered right to
develop that area okay but we have a sewer line down Clear Lake Road we have a force Main clearly yes okay forced me yeah okay okay um I had uh you had asked me about
the the no Alliance mayor you had asked if I would do a report on that um I was thinking the big takeaway this last week for me on the uh Transportation Planning organization and the the mo our space coast
Transportation Planning organization was we had some new members both of these organizations and I'm really am enthusiastic about being involved because these are planning organizations collaborative planning
organizations that's why they exist because we recognize that traffic does not stop and end at our boundaries that what we do impacts those outside of our boundaries and what they do impacts us so there are a series of these type of
um planning organizations and that is their purpose to in this case we got together with um different municipalities from Central Florida talking about Transportation at the Space Coast TPO we had several new members and they didn't
seem to understand the collaboration part of that um so I guess that'll be who who are you speaking well we had a couple I I'm not going to say any names specific spefically but the conversation that was taking place was more of
um you know thinking demanding funds versus understanding that this is a body that's collaborating for the purpose of Transportation the whole area rather than um some areas being entitled because of
population um you speaking in ref of a person that I made the recommendation of no no no no oh no no no no no I'm talking about um some of our new members um but just the point is that
these are collaborative bodies and on Transportation in particular in some of these bigger infrastructure issues it's really important to have this kind of uh coordination and I just wanted to give a big shout out to Tanya and uh
Tony um uh for the unity and the community they've been doing this the entire time I've been here there's some great gospel music there are a whole number of services that actually I was unfamiliar
with that are in the area so um and you know they had decent attendance so it was a good event I think that's I think that's it phot uh so as far as District 2 um again everything's looking good with the Fisk and
brockmore uh Acres project is coming along um got a lot of great feedback from people uh so it's still a little work to go till it's finished monitoring that uh also attended the unity and Community event it was great event um
got a lot of great feedback for the improvements uh at provos Park uh they were even out there playing uh pickle ball uh while the event was going on so that Park is starting to see a lot of positive activity out there uh I'm looking forward to it uh continuing to
grow over the years so great investment that the city council and uh has made on that part so that's all I have it sir yes sir thank you I also attend the unity in the
community and Tanya and her husband have been promoting this event for well over a decade including her sister Deborah um the other thing we had quite a number of vendors there
ranging from various organizations pertaining to single parents to Advanced education adult education to um the uh Masonic brothers and uh Eastern Stars providing free food
for the individuals there also Beth um Seventh Day Adventist Church they were actively involved with a host of other vendors both on the county level and local level so I think we will continue to make that event be a success you all
are correct had a great time and uh got the youth involved that's the most important thing because they are today's success but tomorrow's future um Saturday I had that event um the SEC annual Founders Day on
Monument I had the opportunity to bring the morning speech about the three men Peter Wright who Once Upon a Time delivered the mail up and down the Indian River he's buried at Hill Crest Cemetery
Hill um also balum Allen one of the co-founders of the Allen am church located in Melbourne um and also Mr Wright brothers these three men found the city of Melbourne Crane Creek and I
had the opportunity to present them with that information um in 2027 there will be a film about these three men so the this theme as you can see celebrated the
Legacy of a forgotten past and they were the first individuals there Peter Wright sold some of his property to the good family who um also became the mayor later down the road um Mar good number
of years ago for the city of Melbourne so there was a plethora of information that was being shared there um here I'm doing the speech there 7 well we had to be there 7:30 8:00 the event
started um you can see um councilwoman miners Mrs Alberta Wilson um Linda Graham and myself we all attended this event um several of Melbourne's council members attended well attended was not
an empty seat in the house and um I look forward that information coming to the city of coko but to if I may um Peter Wright is like I said buried there at hrrest Cemetery Hill but Peter Wright
was am Mason also Peter Wright and um um um Mr uh um I'm trying to think of the other gentleman's name not Peter uh Peter Wright and also um Wright brothers that's him came
from large 55 people think that they're the same but it's two different people and uh out of large 55 because why councilman Hearns and myself councilman hear and myself along with a host of other individuals who are members of Lodge
55 I also want to say thank you very much uh to Koko High School uh this graduating year the Val victorium valer Victorian and also suum Li first first
time ever all girls oh awesome all girls and they're uh Hispanic so that's the first time ever in Coco's history and I'm very very ecstatic about that that's wonderful that goes to show you um that
we too everyone deserves a seat at the table so in conclusion I would like to say Buy Local spend local keep it local please keep your eyes and ears toward tah hasse because a a senator just
passed a new or he's making a new bill pertaining to the homeless so get ready get ready get ready yes we gonna call his name a lot more than now chair entertains a motion to adjourn move to adjourn we have a motion on the floor by
Deputy Mayor call second second by councilman going all in favor by saying I I go in peace