I think he's I am not Western. I also January 10th year of resolution describing the date time and location of all regular meeting. This meeting is one
of the medium listed resolution and copy of the resolution where by January 10 file. I need a motion to approve the following zoning court and fast. Okay. And I need approval from
Commissioner Ming for the approve for approving the May 5 minutes without only one month. Yes. Thank you. They're in front of you. There were already some. Oh, thank you. Next, we have the population for
National Gun Violence. So June is national gun violence awareness. This proclamation declares the first Friday of June to be National Gun Violence Awareness Day in the Burrow of Collinsburg to honor and remember all victims and survivors of gun violence
and to reaffirm our commitment to ending this public health crisis. Whereas every day in the United States, 120 lives are lost to gun violence and more than 200 people are shot and wounded, totaling nearly 43,000 deaths annually. And
whereas Americans are 26 times more likely to die by gun homicide than residents of other either countries. And whereas New Jersey experiences approximately 427 year with a rate of 4.8 deaths per
100,000 residents, costing the state $5.3 billion annually, $168.9 million of which falls to taxpayers. And whereas gun violence disproportionately affects cities with over half of all firearm related deaths
occurring in just 127 urban areas. And whereas cities across the nation, including Collinswood, are implementing evidence-based strategies to reduce gun violence and are implementing evidence-based and whereas National Gun Violence Awareness Day was inspired by
the life of Heidi Pendleton, a 15-year-old who was tragically killed in 2013. On what would have been her 28th birthday, June 2nd, 2025, Americans will wear orange to honor her and all victims of gun
violence. And whereas the color orange chosen by Heidi's friends symbolizes the value of human life and has become the defining color of the gun violence prevention movement. And whereas by wearing orange on Friday, June 6th,
2025, residents of Collinswood and people across the country will raise awareness, support survivors, and commit to ending gun violence. Now, therefore, be resolved that I, Mayor Danielle Salana Ward of the Burough, do hereby declare Friday,
June 6th, 2025 as National Gun Violence Awareness Day. I encourage all citizens to wear orange, support local efforts to prevent gun violence, and honor the lives lost by commitment to a safer future. and the volunteers for being here tonight. Um
before I like to welcome any first time whether in person or online and just introduce everybody at the table. So the following are my follow
on. We have a second reading of public hearing of order 1806 amending the burrow amending the bureau of college code. Oh no, sorry. Amends the B redevelop 6.7.
So this is the one that properties bond for the new park. Um J could give us a quick this is this is a development of the ocean bank that basically will build a second floor at parcel third floor on on
the bank building. It'll have nine residential units. Um there'll be condos all be for sale units. There'll be one one affordable unit. Um and the back this the redevelopment plan puts the zoning in place to allow that to happen.
And then the project itself will kind of split the back parking lot so that the majority of the back parking lot will become a public. So that'll be the main old burl uh and you know the strike and fixed up and there'll
be not k. So that's what this is this is setting the zoning in place to let them move forward with site plan uh which will happen probably the next so we vote on this. This is the
moment for public comment if anyone has comment on a specific resolution. I'm sorry for yes. Yes. Mayor will have a second reading of public hearing of ordinance 1807
amending amendment to the burough code development plan from 24 West Collins Avenue. hand. Um, and this is the opportunity for any Would there be extended hours for this
lounge? Did you? Yes. So later. Yeah. No, it's not. It is not. My understanding is not 24 billing would be billing for sight be subject to all our other
borrow. Well, they're I believe they're coming into the plan for the planning board at the end of this month. Okay. For use variance, I'm not sure if they apply for a cipher plan on that or not. once and I I have some feedback and then
also just a question about the process that I know personally as a dire concerned about the um public health impacts of having this round in town and what does that look like? I know and had field and I walk by that cigar
with my son every time and we have asthma and he talks and having that in college but is not something and I know I've talked to a lot of other people who are concerned um and so I'm you know I was surprised to see this on the event tonight I think
and like I'm talking like what's the timeline and when for more public comment I I also talk about other times we're like, "Oh yeah, read it, but so fast." Um, but I think that is, you know, the biggest time having impact, but also
probably a lot of families and a lot of kids that I know personally like that's not that I've ever wanted to use it personally, but I also think that's a lot of true for a lot of people. So, I know people had hopes that like that space would be space that would be more accessible for the whole community. Um, and I'm just personally very concerned
and I want to talk to that. So I'm not So anyway, so that's my feedback, but also I just don't understand like where are we at? I thought there was an article about this two months ago this idea and now suddenly it's on the agenda and they're like approving this use case exception
which also I guess piece of feedback but like I feel like there's all rules about whether you can't use commercial property except for when some big developer comes in think oh I burn but
it's not that um but so where's the like space for more public So this is the second reading of this ordinance. Um generally there's a first reading there's a second reading. So the first meeting is when it's introduced to the college and the second meeting is
where we would be feedback um because as we kind of in the middle of this um understand you know it's three between three stages in the firehouse and the way It's been described to me. It's going to
be like parking lot and there would be some buffer there. There' be a lot of space between the two and the outdoor smoking would be in separate back
area I believe. So, so these are things that I that have not been able to make clear by the state which is why I'm going to make a motion to move it. So you guys see further um further. Oh yeah. And it's
221. Um yeah, I I also have concerns. I think that particularly um having worked with the prostitutes, cigar lounges seem to be like a push back against laws in most states that are
very popular and that had workers sleep in those kinds of establishments. And personally, I I think that that's a serious
risk as a question that that um making more generally I think these are the best paying jobs. uh asking to people to take on secondhand smoke as part of
their livelihoods to me honestly and making this um sort of compound the kind of thing that we should be making exceptions to. Um but sorry I
wanted so due to the issues that young people have raised um and the lack of of that purely time and because of the turnover we have not been able to ascertain as of yet. I make a motion to table the vote this July 7th meeting.
We have the second reading of public hearing ordinance 1808 capital improvement fund for salt barn and park. So we need to buy a salt bar. It's going to cost about $150,000. Apparently
has a fair a fair value and only going up to time. So you need to move on now. It will only move the lower and another $50,000 to be finished. So that's important. Um I instead of salt. Salt.
Salt. Salt. Yeah. So, it's like just the salt that we eat when it's snow. In the old days, we use that snow. Okay. It was a state requirement and it's fine. If you're not [Music]
located at the um at the old facility on it's kind of it's kind of replacing buildings that exist that have been there before the border doesn't So it's it's a large
area of the question because you have to put the size. It's okay. I know you thought it was 60 by 60. That's Steve J, superintendent of public. Yes, we have the first
2009 utility improvement ordinance for water inlets and sewer. So there's a number of water along with Lincoln Avenue that need to be replaced. Um and this is a project that I've gone out to
bid and came in over bid. Um so they're going back to the drawing board to redid the project and they're going to tie it in with repairs on Richie AB on the other side of 130. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
So the public comments are the rating which will be on the live agenda right there. I'll give you all the details. All right. But also just a request we speak louder. Oh yes. And the full agenda is online where
you can read the all the language in the ordinance and get things agenda. Yes, those agenda you can find the full ordinance and the ordinance numbers and you know the three pages of one of the ordinance are online
right now. Yes. Oh, there's also there's a couple there's a whole packet left in the back if you want to see it right now. Yes. Mendley. Yes. And award comment on the resolution items. Is this specific to the items that are
already regarding um gun violence or wait for other public there's only a second opportunity for public comment at the end of the resolution and then Thank you. Thank you. Approval of Independence Day
celebration. Yes. Yes. Award of contract firearms. Yes. Requesting approval of items of revenue and appropriation for the clean communities grant. Yes. Approval of grant application to NJ do for the McGill Avenue phase 2 project.
Yes. Appointments of the appointment of a class three member to the consent planning board. Commissioner Andy Henderson Riley. Yes. All authorizing to renew commodity resale systems and enter commodity
resale agreement. All authorizing the renewal and the New Jersey sustainable energy meeting. Yes. probably our office follow introduction and approval
of 125 business improvement district commissioner. Yes. Commissioner Henderson. Yes. Ward. Yes. Holly there's there's a public hearing on this right? Oh yes public hearing said on this. So the the
business improvement district budget is a kind of approving process under state law. We introduce it here and then there's a public hearing on it at the July meeting. It's done by resolutions. It's not an ordinance but we kind of introduce it and then there's a public
hearing on the big budget which is what the the budget business covers you know events like fair advertising and all kinds of things. So there'll be a public hearing on that even though it says introduction and approval not approving it today.
Public hearing the July 7th meeting and that's when they'll be able to vote again. Okay. Yes. Thank you. July 7th July 7th um replacement of a tenure match
assessment. Yes. Yes. and approving the payment of bills as presented by the CF. Um, sure. I just have a few things. Um, the first is that uh this role I am resigning from the health services
advisory board effective immediately in case there's a vacancy. Um the advisory board is a volunteer approved community and talent that makes re recommendations to the commencements. Um we're interested in hearing from folks who may be interested. It's a three-year term. They're a quarterly duties. Um if you'd
like to apply that information is on the social media. The deadline is July 8th. So anyone is welcome to pass on that information to the health services advisory board. Secondly, um, in this role, I wanted to mention several
different events that are coming up. The first is the Pride Popup that will be this Saturday, June 7 from 4 to 7 p.m. That's put on by the con committee. It's the annual event. Um, and this looks like a really great celebration. So, I'd
like to have this be a open invitation for folks to come. going to include live performances, vendors, food, activities, the welcoming space for individuals um to be who they are authentically and is an inclusive event and it's a political event. So please make sure it's on this
Saturday. In addition uh if you haven't been recently to second Saturday, we have some new uh energy in the second Saturday program and second Saturday this month will be June 14th and it is also five themed. So that will be from 4
until 8:00 p.m. and that'll be um shutting down Halloween. Um also familyfriendly there's a chalk the walk zone where you can add positive messages of pride for the community. So please also mark your calendar uh for that event. Uh meanwhile this week is the
Haden Town Pride parade that ends at the corner of Huffford and Happens I believe. Um so may impact traffic that is this Thursday. So lots of good events for Pride Month. which just started yesterday. We want to continue uh all of the great work um and a tradition of
fully supporting rights visible. In addition um this month we are celebrating Junth. The first uh event is a community movie night and that would be put on in partnership between the burrow and the library. Um
this will be a community film screening of the movie The Hate You Give, which is based on a novel by William Thomas. Um this is a uh event that's open for families and families are encouraged to come. The movie The Rated D13. Um but there will be popcorn and drinks
provided and that's Thursday, June 19th at 6 p.m. the library. And then final event I wanted to mention is a community and a community celebration. And this uh should be a wonderful event. It's on Sunday, June 22nd from 11 to 2. Um, this
will honor the rich history, culture, and creativity of the black community, and it's going to include live performances by teacher Chandler, Clinton Lewis, uh, the arts universal dance and drum ensemble, and the crowd favorite, the soft 40 plus double duck club. Uh, DJ Fitfield is studying music.
There's going to be line dancing, students, blackowned vendor, and arts bar, mocktail bar, crafts, etc., etc. Um, so this is in in addition uh to the library event, another wonderful opportunity or community event um celebrating the team uh commemorating
the end of slavery and promoting humanity in our community. So a wonderful opportunity uh this month for for many events um to celebrate and that's going to be on urban
that's finally just wanted to tell a small anecdote. I was at the pool yesterday. It was the first day at the pool. There were a few people there. It was very cold. Children were there. It was entirely too cold. Um but I met someone there and who I'd never met before. Um they congratulated me on this
and you know said thanks. I said, "How do you want to get involved in town?" And they looked at me. I said, "What do you mean?" And I said, "Well, this isn't about me. This is about the town." I said, "Well, nobody's ever asked me before." And so I wanted to take just this moment to say this is your
invitation for community participation. I've just listed several events that are happening. If you want to get involved, please be in touch. If you are feeling disconnected or disillusioned, the antidote is connection. So contact us. There are a million ways to get involved in the community. So I'm hopeful if if
you're late in the month of June, there's things coming up in July. Um so it was just a funny little conversation. If someone say, "Well, nobody's ever invited." You're invited. Everyone's invited. Please. Thank you. Thanks, Jeff. A couple things. Um, one, um, about 10
days ago, we had we had one of our, um, you know, the premier event, E Festival, the Mayfair. I want to thank um, everyone that was involved in Indian. It is a herculean effort to make that happen. Um, so many
volunteers, so many people get involved. Um, to Kelsey, Lindsay, Pauline, the burrow staff, they the last month or so before this happens, there's there is nothing else that that has gone. Um, and
it really it's just it's a herd effort. I want to thank them all for that. Um, as always, it went off really without a hitch. after 30 some years, we're actually getting good at some of the things that we do. Um, but I want to thank them all. I look forward to next
year and start. Um, keep keep an eye out for all the Fourth of July activities. We won't be here again before the four happens. Um, I want to make sure you you keep be aware of everything going on. Hopefully, it's not 60 degrees that day. So,
there'll be a lot going on in the pool. A lot happening everywhere in town. fireworks and um you know everything that night. So keep an eye out for all that. And the last one is just simply the um I talked a little bit about ocean first, but the Presbyterian Church on
Fern uh construction is is going hot and heavy there. So we're hopeful we get something um something that they keep on their timeline by the end of this year, springtime next year, we've got some new housing units available be uh be really
helpful. That's all I have. Thanks. I'm going to start out by congratulating our student team that competed uh May 21st to 24th with the world's um student space which is the second highest in 30 years of
contingent placed 12th in their division representing War Elementary. Um, great game. Um, and team Larry Khan plays 15 and representing a combination of CHS uh, middle school as well as home
school students. So, um, basically the 120 kids of the mind this year with 50 plus volunteers that helped make that happen and registration for next season happens in September. So, stay tuned. Um, speaking of students, I'd like to
offer an early congratulations and public recognition of the hard work of the 175 Phenct graduate on student finance. I'm sure this board and community are all equally proud of your accomplishments and pleasantly wish you luck on postgraduation endeavors, whichever path
I would seniors choose to follow. Um, albeit the coldest name here on record, it was it was a fantastic day. the first one volunteering that 6:00 to 8 a.m. shift and man it really it's a welloiled routine. The department works is
fantastic. Our volunteers are fantastic. I want to give a shout out and he did fantastic jobing such a special event that really the heart of of many in our town. Um recap in the first 100 days of of this administration. We are
familiarizing ourselves with our staff, their roles and their responsibilities. Um, we'll be working on the website and hope to add information very soon so the public can more easily access the many communities that we already have um and see who is on them and a more robust
calendar of all their meetings. Although not all of the meetings are public, but at least for you to be able to find who's been on these committees and how you can get in touch with them if you have something, you know, pertinent. Um, stay tuned for office hours, Amy and myself to make ourselves available to
all of you in a in a way that you can you can schedule them out. Um, lastly, we have a special meeting set for June 25th at 3:00 and our next regularly special meeting is July 7th at 7:00 right here in the center. Um, I talked
long enough and now is time for open public comment on anything. If you could please use the mic so everyone can hear your comments. I just wanted to mention if you're Thank you so much Jeffrey Rock
74. I just wanted to mention one more event in June that somehow got missed. It's by the Collins Civic Collective June 28th the garden is a really fun event. You
get to see inside people's houses decorated and some fantastic gardens. So, don't forget about that. Thank you so much for bringing that up. Yes. June 28th, the home of garbage work. Good evening, Mayor. My name
is Jersey. This is a national group of volunteers. We have two programs. left mayor possibly festival. uh that that rate is going up and what
we're finding with gun violence now give you a sens gun violence is now the number one for children in this country and people are 6% more likely to die in this
country anywhere else violence you have about 46 million children that home that doesn't have a secure gun. And that's where the smart kids.org program comes
into play because it's not their responsibility. Smart is not responsible here on this is what we're also trying to do next. And the program is supported by
the national EPA, the New Jersey people, the New Jersey EPA, the New Jersey Department of Engagement. So if you want to step up and ask the board of education to promote this.org on their website and
like other towns, we have that website along with one thing.org which is in New Jerseyy's 2019 extreme detective board and I'm not sure I'm trying not to
offer but there was an incident in Boulder Colorado and one of the reasons that individual wasn't able to purchase an AR15 which is normally the the weapon of choice in um these mass shootings
which the FBI three four or more people that are in ill. We've had 630 of those in 2043 and we average in the last 10 years from 585 to 610. That seems too much to me. And
so just briefly because I know my time is short. The uh extreme risk protective order for anyone who is a gun owner like me, they might wonder about oh what about my second amendment? What about a due process? That's what a red flag law
is. And Boulder, Colorado, state of Colorado has a red flag law. And we were able in New Jersey to intercept some online that was trying to copycat the slaughter of Jewish people in Pittsburgh several years ago. But because he was on
our radar and they had been aware of what was going on, they did a wellness check. That would be law enforcement's call as to whether or not they should issue a temporary extreme risk detective order. And in doing so, every judge
that's part of this program is on call 247. So the police chief makes the determination with their experience. The temporary extreers protective order is issued. the police force goes to the home, removes the gun and ammunition and
here's the due process. That individual could be a man, a woman, teenager, could be somebody you know, somebody you work with, someone is not well, and we know that there's additional risks because there are guns that are not secure in
the home and the individual must go before the court in New Jersey within 10 days and they wouldn't state their case. And for those that think, "Oh my god, you know, my my my wife is harassing me or this." I think law enforcement
experienced enough in every state be able to determine whether that's domestic violence or some kind of harassment. And frankly, if we had, you know, thousand of those a year that would save a lot of lives anyway. So anyway, thank you very much.
Uh we had about 1,200 um temporary extreme protective orders issued in 2022 and approximately 710 people got all our weapons back and the meeting number did
not and when I talk to law enforcement they often look at me strangely and I think perhaps I misspoke. They said no. They think that number from the final restraining risk protective order should be higher. And that's why we're trying to educate judges so that people can't
get off because they know somebody. This is a very serious issue in our country that's affecting our economy. That $5.3 billion quote uh that's not correct. It's 5.8 billion. And New Jersey is the
fourth safest state in this country. We spend well over $530 billion dollar nationally on everything that has to do with gun violence and one last very
children are beginning to understand because they have to do drills and preschool kids do it to the little star. It's becoming very mainstream. It's a little difficult to not see that. And they're starting to
wonder, are adults not able to protect us or do they not want to? 743 Maple Terrace. Two things. I try to unload the town prior from the website.
It will not unload because it's not a secure site. Number two, three of the last four weeks the green have not been picked up on Maple Parish. They were picked up on
Friday in May. Thank you. We'll check on whatever your your yard get up. Just give us a call. If it doesn't get picked up, we just call into the boulevard. Okay.
Okay. Oh, okay. Well, if you see it out there and you want to get it picked up, just give us a call. Well, it works. I fill out the little form line. That's easy. If anything, congratulations on your appointments. We're excited about moving
forward. Thank you for participating in the American post Memorial Day celebrations during the fun organization. I'd like to address unit the entire
community. I was wondering if you were aware of the American lead resource for vets and first responders and I would also wish you to continue to educating a supportive resource to the entire community. In the
last few years, I've become more actively involved in the post out of respect for my traveling to serve and I truly believe there is unlimited potential collaborative and communitydriven membership in creating our town. I understand as a school
district and public have a solid working relationship, but I feel many of our residents do not know anything about their community. Becoming a member is easy and crazy affordable 20 to $25 a year. And
what you get from that price is the knowledge that you have contributed to the growth and prosperity of the American Legion which if my generation our generation does not become member and assist in its presence
then the post in building Iran will not be around for our children. Uh with connection and membership, you have access to a six lane bowling out with pool table space, music and fundraiser vendor and a place to host
school and community club inside on the ground. New media associated with have no military affiliation. This membership is called a friend of the post and category that is in
me. Though the post is not a community center per se, we have unlimited potential for a plethora of community events, but the fact remains the approach is fading out. Without Collins Wood's community spirit, the post will
be history. Our post is in desperate need and I'm doing my part to resurrect it. But I cannot do it alone. And the elderly members cannot do it alone. If you can lend a hand in paying
them for anything productive, whether it be helping me with the lawn and landscaping, painting, photography, anything in the capital, promoting it on social media, advertising, anything that supports our
community, we would be welcome. If you like to learn more and have an interest, please contact me via Facebook, call, you can text, stop by my house. I have no papers and I can show you that if you're interested, but I'm
very passionate about the underdog and I truly believe that the American Legion is the underdog. It's a space that you don't know that has unlimited dependence for this
community. And many of us, I guarantee you, many of us sitting here right now have no idea that it exists. Have no idea that it exists. What happened inside of it? Who runs the
place? It is um it's a gold mine. It's a gold for this. And It's sitting waiting to be resurrected, waiting. I cannot do it
alone. The average age is probably 70 plus. They cannot do it. We're at a spot now in counsel. I feel like this is the time. 20 to $25 a year. Not a month, a
year. I like mowing lawns and taking care of gardens. That's my job. That's what I do. I'm a teacher during the day. However, on the weekends and during the week, I'm overde I walked up to the post. I said,
you know, I can take care of the law. I can do that. So, that's what I do. You walk into this place and say, "Hey, I can tell you." Oh, walk down to the uh the basement and see a six lane bowling out
with four lanes that are like unlimited. It's sitting right there waiting for and if we do not I don't want to use the term paper if we do
not then the post elders who will not be around for very much longer forever when they're gone it's gone it's gone that building will be gone And you can have all the imagination of
what's going to go but it won't be and I have a lot of history in this town. See so can I just suggest a couple things. One is we'll be in touch with you about working at in public building the bank a lot of different activities
we'll talk to you guys but but for membership in the post write something for the town yeah friend of the membership write
something I love That's wonderful. If you do have interest, if anybody has interest, um I'll just leave papers on the bar back there. Please contact me and I can get
you in touch with Rosie who post and you can have we can have he can answer a phone question for you. Well, I heard that you operate the I heard that Friday night.
Well, right now the operation or whatever is there. However, in speaking with Bob, he would love it as much as he can. But he cannot be there and we not and he cannot do it alone. I cannot
do it alone. However, if I walk into his office with 10 people and those 10 people walk in with five people and know five people walk in with three people, then we have something new. Now we have now we have something going on. But life is walking
solo with no one behind me. not play will not be in existence for it all and that's the fact. So I appreciate your time. I
appreciate all heard from say that one out of the nine units and it's probably me to ask where is the principality find what you need to somebody. Sure. So, we're the special meeting to
the end of the month is to adopt our the latest version of our compliance plan. We're in compliance with people to file the laws. We're meeting the new statute set out all kinds of new plans and filings that we have to do will be on course to have that done. Um we have an
ordinance in place that required an construction over 500 or more affordable unit. Uh yeah. So we're we're moving we would we would have had a lot more power plan. But that's where
um so back in 2020 we uh had a ordinance that fairly targetable energy and in that still hasn't manipulation. I understand there are a
lot of technical um problems mostly getting an actual energy provider to agree to a plan that work where
would college would basically make a buy and build and everyone would be able to buy renewable energy. unless they opted out from this um essentially
replace. Um so that the goal when we put this forward was to move us to a higher renewable energy project. We had specific numbers in the original to commission. Um I know that I
think it was either at the end of last year or earlier this year the previous board did modify that move it see 10% above the um state measurement for renewable
energy. Um I'd love to see this new board get that working. If not, I I'd love to see some other way. How do you get door? Because I think it's more
important than ever. I see more and more when I walk my dog, I see more and more cars into people's houses and I only breathe if that's all coming from renewable sources that are actually taking steps and taking things out. So,
um I'm interested in when you have office hours to meet to discuss because I have thoughts and I I know people who do uh look into this on a deeper level and what we can do as a municipality,
but I for a long time thought that should be an example center in terms of getting more renewable energy information people. Um, so I I'd like us
to see either by existing ordinances if possible or if not if there are new measures that can be taken really far. I think it's something we really can achieve
um and it's something that that we can u do as a town. I think we're I I do believe in the idea of as a leader because we we are seen as a town that has a lot of consciousness around
environmental wonderful being. So, so just a couple things. There's two different programs in community aggregation. One of them we've been one of them is actually been a lot more signups than we ever expected which is an income qualified community
aggregation. So for that what it does is it offers folks that are within certain income restrictions that they can get more affordable energy at a lower cost. Um that is being implemented. Gabel and
Associates are consultant. They do stuff statewide. they um that's being implemented because the numbers work okay in the marketplace. I mean the numbers by the the the pretty
much the the green energy warfare because there's a requirement for energy companies to have a certain amount of it that's going to help folks lower. Okay. So it works. So that's implemented that's in place. we we should be online
with that very soon. Um the second is the more broadly based which we've had this ordinance in place for four or five years now. Um, and the difficulty there is that the marketplace is not cooperating in that. Meaning that, and
what this is for anybody that doesn't know, is that the the burrow would go out and contract for energy services for everyone's residential property, for everyone's property, and you would be enrolled in that. You would get that
automatically unless you decided to opt out. Um, we had set it up, I believe it set up that there needed to be a savings. The idea was that energy aggregation would provide some savings to homeowners and that if you so chose
you could maybe make up that savings with getting some more green energy so that you were paying the same amount. Um the trouble is the numbers are such that the market is above we couldn't we couldn't contract or above what they
call the tariff tariff which is what PSEG uh charges kind of across the border. So the difficulties been the marketplace and it's not just us it's all over. I think there's one pound state that has actually done it. I know the last part
of the video they wishing they didn't because the rates have gone up so high um that they're people pay a lot more money for. So that there are the two programs but marketplace has been in trouble for one um it's not you know
people ready to go do it. just conditions aren't right in the market to get a savings that makes it affordable cost and anybody today can go you can go buy your energy and pay you know get green energy all you want at home what
it is right now cost a lot of money but you can do that Um, and it's really shut down.