e e e let me know what okay uh I will pull this meeting to order sorry okay good morning good evening rather sorry long day uh I'd like to call this meeting to order my name is Craig slutkin I am the President of
Community Education Council too I'm going to ask I'm going to call this meeting of this calendar meeting to order uh before we go onto the roll call I'm going to ask the interpreters do you want to come up and say what you need to say for your folks
hi the following announcement will be in Ming [Music] thank you so I'm gonna ask our vice president Leonard Silverman to take a roll call thank you uh pre here Alison B here
Danielle ero here Gavin Healey here Charles love here Marin S Patel Jessica Savage sh arber Sab Ser Leonard Silverman I'm here
Craig student members L Jason T to come a little late Alexandra Stillman put a little quotation have a qu thank you I'm now going to turn this
meeting over for a few moments to a special guest Jesse Mia from was the deputy director of face doe office of family and Community engagement Jesse's going to be reading the meeting Norms tonight Jesse thank you Craig thank you council members and thank you for having us at
this meeting um good evening everyone my name is Jesse Mika I am the deputy executive director of the office of family Community empowerment before we begin today's council meeting I would like to address a couple of important points to ensure a respectful and productive session this evening I'd like
to thank the council for this opportunity firstly I kindly ask all members of the audience and Council to maintain the Quorum throughout the this includes refraining from interrupting speakers and fellow council members by shouting or yelling as they're trying to speak these actions interrupt the
meeting and interferes with the council's ability to conduct business and impede speakers opportunity to be heard Additionally the safety of everyone in attendance is Paramount and as such safety agents are on hand to support secondly while the council's
meetings are subject to open meetings law which promotes transparency and public participation we must also respect and Safeguard the privacy of our student participants therefore while legally you are allowed to record today's meeting we humbly request that
you refrain from recording or photographing students during the meeting thank you for your cooperation and understanding we now turn it over to the meeting chair to begin thank you once again appreciate it thank you
Jesse so before we move on to the next item on the agenda I just want to talk about an issue that came up at the last meeting there were some questions on attendance absences excusals and the rules around surrounding those items in our bylaw since the last meeting several council members have made inquiries
about the subject and I went and took a look and audited the records so we can deal this with this expeditiously I would like to entertain a motion to add council attendance to the calendar meeting agenda and deal with it at this time would someone like to make a
motion free bu would somebody like to second I second motion is seconded by m Maron let's take it to a vote this is a motion to sorry sorry before we vote uh is there any discussion sorry I apologize
okay so this is a motion to add okay um so we're going to take a vote if you're in favor say yes if you're no say no if you're fre Alison B yes Daniela ero yes DAV he
Charles love yes Lord Marin yes so Patel is not here Jessica Savage Sarah's not here Sabina is not here I say yes yes the motion passes great so okay let's first deal
with our last calendar meeting in February at that meeting we noted the absences of council members Bowen Marin and sarin under Chancellor's regulation d140 section 9 council members May deliver a request for an excusal in writing no later than 15 days after an
an absence and at that time the council can decide via vote whether to approve council members Bowen for work commitment Marin for illness and sarin for illness each to deliver such a request for excusal within 15 days as such I will entertain a motion to
approve each of their request for excusal from the February 26 2025 cc2 meetings I'll entertain a motion Danielle OV made the motion Len Silverman second is there any
discussion gav healing so we are so so we're talking about people who are absent in February correct last meeting that's what we're doing right now and we are entertaining a motion after the fact so we're talking
about after the fact people submitting excused absences corre and what what is and I don't believe there's anything in our bylaws that says that people can submit in Chancellor's regulation d140 which supersedes our bylaws okay it does okay so I I assume we're going to talk
about the absences up through December 18th 2024 of which there are three and of which under Chancellor's regulation d140 and New York State education law 259c after three unexcused absences and we have approved those minutes uh those
council members have vacated their seats we will be discussing each of those absences after this after this motion are there any other items to discuss I move to table discussion call for a vote we have to take a vote for that
okay and we'll take a vote so this is a motion motion okay so the motion is for the February 26 2025 meetings accept excusals for council member Marin council member sarin and council member Bowen to find their
excuses I excusal I noted Alison Bowen Daniel erov yes Gavin Healey Charles love yes M Marin yes so Patel is not here Jessica Savage Sarah's not here sabina's not
here I say yes Craig yes student members are not so the motion passes by a vote of one two three four five seven to zero with two OBS next we're going to move to the January 15th calendar and work and
business meetings notes that we had published the draft minutes but they have not been approved the minutes had an error on them council member Marin did indeed inform me that her child was ill and as such I noted at the meeting this would be an excusal while the minutes CLE reflected no
excusal reporting of the meeting clearly has me saying this would be an excusal at 24 minutes in so if you looked at a reporting while we have not approved these minutes and we will uh look at that later tonight I will entertain a motion to amend the draft minutes to
reflect that council member Marin was excused tonight can I hear a motion for that council member bar Fen makes a motion can I hear a second that was uh counc member OV any discussion take it to a
vote we are going the motion is to amend January 15 unapproved minutes which we'll look at later to reflect that council member Maron was in fact excused Allison Bowen yes Daniela erov yes Gavin Healey Charles love yes M Maron Sor
Patel is not here Jessica Savage Sarah's not here Sabina is not here I say yes yes a motion passes by one two three four five by seven nothing with two
extensions oh our student members are not present next we must move to the December 18th 2024 calendar and working business meetings note that the minutes which have been approved stated that council member egov was absent however this was an error that we did not catch
she did inform me that her child was was Ill in writing and you can clearly hear me State at 5 minutes and 50 seconds into the recording this was an excusal under Robert's Rules a body can amend something something previously adopted
section 35 by having a motion to amend and approving with a majority of the entire body which would be seven as such I will entertain a motion to amend the previously adopted minutes from December 18th 2024 meeting to reflect an excusal
for council member OV I'll make that motion council member Bowen makes the motion Council Marin second it we have discuss there any discussion yes go ahead so it's it's interesting that um you're setting Robert's Rules saying
that we can amend something that we passed four because that um it makes me think back to our June 12th 2024 meeting at the Clinton School where there was this Halo about you know we can't
amend resolution 248 we can't resend it because it's in the past and what's past is past what's gone is gone but but now I guess we can we can amend this because this is you know important to you or what not
but I mean there's a pretty clear procedure for minutes we vote on minutes um at the the following meeting if if we have quum which we didn't have Forum in January or February um and there were there were plenty of chances for people to object
to to the minutes I mean basically the fact is that you know the most important the very first thing that you should do as a c member is just show up to the damn meeting um and I don't know why that's so hard for people but you know I I I feel like we should
be you know maybe a little bit more honest a little bit more aboveboard with the community and just a little bit more respectful of this office um you know people you know there's other people who want to serve there's other people who
want to be here advocating for their you know their students and we should give people who are ready and able to advocate for those students a chance to advocate for them and they don't when there are you know like you know people who are not really fulfilling their
obligations here any other [Music] comments okay let's take it to a vote so you can vote yes no or obain now pre vote for I Allison bow yes Daniel
ero yes Gavin hey no Charles love yes M Marin yes s's not here um Jessica Savage Sarah's not here sabina's not here I vote Yes right yes our student
members are not here um motion passes by a vote of uh seven in favor two Nos and and that's it next we're going to move to September 18th 2024 calendar and working business meetings note that the minutes which
were approved St that council member egaro was absent however this was an error of mine that we did not catch she did inform me that she was out of town on a work commitment writing as such I will entertain a motion to amend the previously adopted minutes from September 18th 2024 meetings to reflect
an excusal for council member egov council member Bowen seconded by council member Marin any discussion yes so now we're talking about an absence that happened six months ago I mean I mean let me just say my my kid
is a seventh grader and I noticed on um on his Google Classroom that he has some missing assignments from like three weeks ago and I said hey why don't you try to make those up and he says I can't it's too late and we're not allowed to
make them up it's too late that was three weeks ago he's a seventh grader we're talking about adults here this is a meeting six months ago like let's let's get serious let's get real any other comments to vote either vote yes no or abstain a
free Allison yes Daniela Gavin Charles yes M yes s's not here Jessica is not oh yeah Jess sorry sorry um Sabina not here I yes and
Craig and then our student M last we're going to go back to the first meeting of the term July 12 2023 when we did not have a president yet we had a president proam we had Deni of a secretary both coun sorry council member Bowen requested an excusable for work
commitments the council did not yet have a president as I noted uh unfortunately we don't have the reporting because that night we were getting into issues with the reporting going to start so it didn't start well into the meeting council member Silverman was running the meeting that night as president proem
and I discussed with council member Silverman and his recollection is that he did in fact Grant excusals my inclination is to go with council member Silverman's recollection as his pattern was to Grant excusals I will personally apologize for this however my recollection this is our first meeting I
was franic trying to get everything to work we didn't have an administrative assistant yet so I apologize as such I'm going to entertain a motion to amend the previously adopted minutes from July 12 2023 to reflect excusal for Council an excusal for council member boen do I
have a motion I'll make council member er edar do I have a second council member V parai is there any discussion yes there's some [Music] discussion so now we are going back to um you also didn't get the August 21st
2024 meeting I you skipped over that um that where Alis bow wasn't here um so we're talking about July 12 2023 this is nearly two years ago um can you make up um like a Miss day of work from two years ago can you
make up a Miss assignment I don't think you can um and okay I remember that meeting very very well because it was my first meeting as a member of this body um July 12 2023 we were at ps41 in the
last Village um and we did not have forum and before the meeting um Craig Len you tried to cancel the meeting because you said we did not have Forum I had to actually talk to face um and remind people that well actually under
the New York State education law we need to have a meeting every single month no matter what whether we have quum or not and near York State education law also provides that whether we have quum or not we have a superintendent's present
and we have a um an opportunity for the public to speak and ask questions that's not negotiable that's under um New York State education law 2590 um it's not something that we can amend by because of our bylaws because
New York State education law supersedes the Chancellor's regulations and our bylaws and but um basically Len and Ma you interpreted the bylaws and you said that we are not we're not required or we're not even allowed to have public
comment even though there are members of the public asking to speak asking for their rights under New York State education law 290 um and it's you know we cannot the you know the the 12 of us up
here or how many or or that night it was six of us up here um we cannot violate the principles of or the provisions set down in New York City education law we're not the state legislature um and all that you could tell me Craig after the fact was that
you said a senior official of the doe told us that we were not supposed to have public comments but you wouldn't tell me who the senior official of the do is BAS says it wasn't them um I don't know was it the chancellor was it the first Deputy Chancellor Daniel weberg so
who is telling you that you're supposed to violate New York State education law and that was my Rec recollection of the July meeting so maybe you can clarify that before we go on andot about this little thing like to comment on that meeting as well that was the first meeting and I
remember during our orientation which was during the weekend that we were just told who was elected we found out the plans for summer were made prior like two three months prior to knowing when the meeting will be in July and it was
that week that I was going to be away in another country for August as well and I flew in for the August meeting and flew back out the next day but for July I made it clear that I the plans for the summer were already made I just want to there's an absolute
misrepresentation here just so we're here Craig and I never uh suggested canceling the meeting or not holding the meeting the issue was whether or not we would have a public speaking session and I do want to add just one thing there was approximately one person that signed up for the public speaking session a
former council member by the name of kashik do was the only uh member who signed up I had actually spoken to him that night uh he had no issue with not being permitted to speak um but it doesn't matter because we're not here to debate whether or not it was we should
have had or should not have had public speaking session the question is whether or not um there was a valid reason for an excuse that was previous to made and that's what this motion is I just want to add one thing um you did actually send out an email um canceling the
meeting it went out to everyone on the C2 mailing S I just I just wanted to clarify something what we're talking about right now is whether or not there is actually we're going to go back and amend to make sure there's an excuse absence based on somebody's recollection
of what happened back then I just want to understand no I have it in writing from Al Alison's email ask me you I do have an I have you have an email from then asking for it yes I do any other
comments let's take it to a vote PR Alison yes Daniela yes Gavin Charles yes mud yes T's not here
Jessica Sarah's not here sabina's not here I say yes great yes and our student numbers are not here so vote passes by a vote of seven in favor with no opposed to two OBS thank you and thank you for your
patience everybody I think this does show how important the minutes of recordkeeping are you know we've had a couple of votes where people looked at me when I said have has everybody read the minutes and and people on both sides have given me sort of the look of no I
have not but I'll vote on it anyway I think it's emphasizes the importance of uh good record keeping and also each of us actually reading the minutes um council member egaro our Administrative Assistant Victor and I will endeavor to keep much more clean and accurate records going forward so there mistakes
or ambiguities so my apologies on that so uh next up on the agenda is agenda is the presentation of resolutions resolution the first resolution is resolution 268 the resolution well before I go on
to the resolutions we went through all these resolutions the last meeting uh we did we were not able to vote because at the time of the vote we didn't have form um I will ask but people can they want but I will ask since we have gone through these resolutions already to try
to be brief so we can get through the meeting uh I know there are a lot of people here who probably would like to speak so I want to be sensitive to everyone's time the first resolution is resolution 268 resolution calling on the New York City Department of Education to standardize rating rubrics across
schools now I'll speak to that one we spoke extensively on this last month so I'm not going to repeat myself too much the purpose of this resolution is to highlight and urge the DOE to address a number of disparities among schools across the city in terms of gradings and how that's done and in particular the
years that grading affects admissions like the seventh grade this is not to hamstring the teacher it's not to say how grades are supposed to be done in science for example that they're supposed to be done the same way that you would do for Spanish classes that's nonsensical when you have some schools adding points because it's an honors
class and other schools at a different part of the city not doing that there's an inequity when you have allow some schools to have retakes as part of their policy not for IEP purposes that's of course something very different and understandable but just allowing students to retake a test if they don't
do well while other schools don't allow them to do that there's an inequity of course there's always going to be some differences there are schools that are test driven there are schools that are project driven you can't have the exact same rubric for each school but there should be some Rules of Engagement that schools can abide by to address these AG
garious differences rece we received a number of emails supported this resolution over the past few days for District Two parents who are very concerned about this issue we're moving on to resolution 269 resolution to affirm cc2 support of
nycps guidelines to support transgender and gender expansive students and resend resolution 248 so resolution 248 must be reent and I will keep introducing a resolution to
resend it and keep speaking out against it until it's rescinded for as long as I'm on this Council every month and that's because resolution 248 was wrong in March 2024 and it's wrong now a year later
there's nothing neutral about there's nothing neutral about a Review Committee being convened to decide whether some kids can hold on to the rights they have or not and it's not about sa you don't need an evolutionary biologist on a
committee which is what resolution 248 asked for to decide whether kids can safely play on a basketball after all this time it's really amazing to me that this Council does not realize the depth of farm it has caused trying to chip away at the
rights of one group of already marginalized students I know many of my fellow council members are sick of this they wanted to all go away you know wouldn't it be great if families of cisgender students and families of transgender students could all just come here and
talk about grading Rooks and Ela curriculum and state math test scores and school lunches and fair student funding and all those things and not about who gets to play on what team don't you think that all of these families that we represent want
that and um don't you think that families of transgender student want those things that families of cisgender students want and that people that they take for granted that that families of cisgender students take for granted that they can come here and talk about because they're
not worried about their fundamental rights here and they should be able to do that we should all be able to do that all we need to do as a council is just repeal resolution 248 and just let them let
people speak and that's all thank resolution 270 resolution in opposition to Donald Trump's executive order ending so-called radical indoctrination and the support of culturally responsive and sustainable education so anyone want to speak on
that member H so I think many of us are familiar with this executive order issued by the Trump Administration on January 29th it's called ending radical indoctrination in K through2 public schooling among other things the
executive order mandates five weekly lectures grounded in patriotic education principles which shall be broadcast to the nation throughout 20126 let's hope they don't fall in the third Wednesday of the month and conflict with these meetings because I know that that everyone wants to go home
and like watch um it would be a shame for us to miss those State propaganda sessions so more directly related to our CC the executive order seeks to eliminate all federal funding streams
that directly or indirectly support uh discriminatory Equity ideology in schools notably the executive order defines discriminatory Equity ideology to include among other things any
ideology that the United States is fundamentally racist sexist or otherwise discriminatory it raises issues about how or even if schools can offer instruction about America's history of slavery the genocide of Native Americans
the suffrage movement the Civil Rights Movement The Stonewall Uprising and a lot more it threatens the way we both teach history it threatens the way we teach about contemporary Society it threatens the way we teach literature at heart you know I'm as someone who
teaches history has a PHD in history has a number of peer-reviewed Articles published in the field of History plus I sorry I don't mean the boast but a forthcoming history book from cornelian University Press thank you um I feel qualified to call myself an expert in historical
research and the teaching in history the executive order mischaracterizes grossly mischaracterizes history education alleging educational malpractice teachers supposedly and this I quote from the executive order are
imprinting anti-American subversive harmful false ideologies on our nation's children um have you seen what our teachers days look like they're really busy I don't know how how they time for that the order uses this caricature and
it really is a character to justify sweeping and unprecedented Federal interventions in public education and that's what these are these are really sweeping Federal interventions in public education this is the federal government telling New York State and New York City what it can and can't
do the executive order not only disregards the training ethics and lifelong work of history te teachers it also deme our students by assuming that patriotism can be inspired only by triumphal stories and that our students
are incapable of forming complex opinions the executive orders sweeping claims of radical indoctrination are almost entirely unored from the reality of Education in our classrooms the American historical
Association I'm a member by the way um has condemned the executive Bo and its narrow conception of Patriots as well as should and so um and the cudle that the Trump Administration is using is um to
prevent schools from teaching about racism and bias and to implement this system of so-called patriotic education is the elimination of federal funding now I know that only about 5% of New York City's educational budget comes from federal funds
but those funds are targeted at very specific initiatives that impact our most vulnerable students that includes Title One funds um Title One Part A funding about $700 million that supports schools with serving large numbers of low-income students
specifically um it also includes the New York City's uh Universal free meal program which provides free breakfast lunch and summer meals to close to a million students this is another critical anti-poverty initiative that is facing is essentially being held
hostage to's conception of what you know is history and there's a lot more so I think as a city and as a school system we can have debates about what we're going to teach in the classroom but we
shouldn't be forced under threat to our most vulnerable students to impose a curriculum on our schools we could talk about the social studies curricul but the attempt by the federal government to mandate a very narrow flattened view of History teaching in
Local Schools is is authoritarian overreach and I think as a council we should speak out against that thank you thank you no uh program presentations this evening so we'll go to the first public speaker session uh we will give each
person two minutes to speak if you have not signed up please sign up uh vior has a sheet Victor can I have the and um while I appreciate I know a lot of people want to speak tonight and that's fine and I'll accept it for this meeting but going forward I think we really do need to have uh everyone sign
our speaker sign up sheet the official cc21 um we can't we won't really be able to accept other other uh sign so please sign us use hours going forward tonight is fine because I know people did it okay so uh Len is going to call
going to call out the names when she calls out your name um first of all we apologize if we get any pronunciations wrong not intentional we apologize do the best that we can he's GNA read your name please come up go to the microphone speak for two minutes and we'll uh we'll
time you as well thank you thanks for the opport first I'll LT the first three so the first can come up and the other two can have a seat CL five so that they're ready to speak we have Joe vitar um
Michelle Stein camp and Lee duer I apologize if I mispronounce hello I'm here today to support mod Mar's resolution Common Sense resolution ution 248 and to oppose any resolution that seeks to deplete or minimize mod Mar's resolution 248 I
think we're up to resolution 269 so far as the opposition resolutions it seems to be Franken stini in these opposition motions because they keep on resurfacing even though these panelists and this
Council have constantly and repeatedly voted down the opposition to resolution 248 my sign for those of you who cannot see says CIS equals can't imitate
sex and last month last month behind me is g to be a bunch of virtue signaling and baby bullying this is what's going on every month people on Zoom usually cannot see it but it's the standard virtue signaling that goes on every
month last month it should be clear that these people do not care about all all the children because last month Craig had an issue with babysitting his son and they were shooting him shouting him down and minimizing his concern over
babysitting his own Sons they do not care about all children they also don't care about the girls in the school sports who do not want to be playing with bi biological males I am as I've said before an athlete I'm a female
athlete that has been sponsor spt I'm speaking up for the girls that say these are not safe spaces for them to come up and voice their opinions that's why resolution 248 was established and you opened up the
meeting talking about standardization we can't standardize grades when we can't even standardize the girl sports team when we can't even standardize what a woman is the solution is simple the solution is simple
separate and this is my last s I'm just going to complete it separate the trans identified youth from the girls thank [Music] you hello my name is Michelle I'm the parent
of a district to middle school students I want to speak in favor of resolution 268 as the grading Rubiks vary a lot from school to school within District Two uh my son attends Wagner and has friends at essentially every other Middle School in the district and
everyone does things a little bit differently some allow extra credit some don't some allow you to drop your lowest grade some don't uh you know and when you are applying for high school you know you can miss the cut off from one group to to another by as little as a
quarter of one point and so these things really do um impact the students as they're applying to high school and in general why not just have a universal policy makees sense um and then also I wanted to Circle back to uh an issue I
had brought up at the first meeting at Morton Middle School earlier this year uh which is the availability of all eighth grade students to be able to take regions courses not all of the middle schools um have it open for all eighth
graders some do and it would be nice if there was a universal policy H so it was equal across schools it didn't make a difference what school you get placed in you have the same opportunities no matter where you go thank you me duer I'll be very brief because I
don't think I can speak any more eloquently than this gentleman has I am uh in favor of 27 um it's absolutely awful and destructive that we would even uh consider not opposing it sorry I'll speak louder uh I
I support the uh7 next we have anal Shantz Shelby Denny and Sam sang heer hi my name is an sh I'm a parent of a student at ps11 uh I find the behavior of the majority of you uh pretty shameful um I
think amending old minutes because you got caught skipping it's a little suspect also letting members who are absent vote on the approval of their absences just seems not good governments um leaving 30 minutes into a meeting before any voting also seems a
little suspect uh not what I would vote for um will the email evidence that's Clos this be shared for the public record or we're just going to take everyone's word on that like if this is public it should be public and it shouldn't be six months two months three
years old um also I'd like to say that 248 is obviously wrong uh it should be resed or since you can amend things now maybe just amend it to fix it you clearly said that's um 269 and 270 should be approved and since I don't
think you will do anything right here I look forward to voting you out microphone we can't hear you in back we'll do right hi everyone can y'all hear me a lot can happen in a year but as these meetings have indicated a lot can
also stay the same well it is true that resolution 248 does not hold any real power the rhetoric behind it speaks volumes and speaks to one of our most vulnerable populations the message it sends is that trans kids don't belong I have listened to women who are athletes up here asking you to resend the high
school students on this Council have recounted their surveys of students on campus and stated that those students have no problem with trans girls in sports parents of trans inist students have spoken out against the re the resolution people you say you're trying to protect and speak for are telling you that they do not want this
discriminatory protection so at least be honest you're not speaking out for them you're speaking out for your own views and claiming to represent people you refuse to listen to I understand feeling defensive when someone was angry with you it's something I've had to work on myself but I also understand that the
consistent discrimination trans people face means that they will rightfully be angry I implore you to think about where their anger is coming from as well as yours I believe that everyone is capable of kindness so where is this rhetoric coming from for you I urge you to unpack
the ideas fueling your words and choices and learn from the people with lived experiences within the communities you seek to oppress it's okay to do better when you know better and I hope that you do because I'd rather be at my Wednesday night church choir practice then be here for another year yes you can be
religious and also support trans identities weend resolution 248 thank you very much I understand that a great deal of people in this room have already made up their minds regarding children and transgender identity but I'd like you all to humor
me just for a minute the argument coming from each side of this debate is that the other side is out to hurt children instead of continuing this pointless deadlock of opinion I encourage everyone to consider scientific consensus instead
the American Academy of Pediatrics and the American Psychiatric Association both agree supporting transgender children inherently leads to better mental health incomes the AAP has reported that affirmed transgender
children have lower rates of depression and suicide the APA has found that gender affirming care improves well-being and is stated it should not be denied for ideological reasons and as for the children that end up changing
their minds about being transgender I I see I see these statistics thrown around a lot the caveat that everyone brushes over is that the reasons for D transition cited are family rejection discrimination or lack of support being
transgender is only a problem for a child if the adults in their lives make it a problem a school system school system insti of Education must be beholden to science not fear not
ideology if it is at all possible that children are being hurt by the decisions of adults we owe it to them to take this issue Gravely seriously this is not the place to push self-interest please the children and only the children must be
put first and in the end and to that end all we can all we can give children all we owe children is the truth thank you next we have Lisa Kenne try jsy Barack and Margie B brookley
Lisa hi good evening um all I can say is I really feel like I'm in some kind of weird time machine that Drew Me Back 40 years because I've been an activist in LGBT Community since act up which we all
remember how terrible that was yes hi and you know it is really about the kids it's about the kids and I I'm pretty confident that some of you who may be think you're doing the right thing with this don't really know any trans kids
you got to get to know these kids these kids know who they are and you know the rate of suicide is unbelievable transar kids you got to let these kidss they know who they are it's intuitive for them and you know their
blood will be on your hands and their Despair and their depression you know get to know these kids before you decide who they are hey y'all my name is Josie I speaking in support of resolution 264 and calling for the council to resend resolution
248 I really need to start stop writing these before the meetings because I guess they can just do whatever they want when the meetings start but I would love to start with a chant that I learned from two young trans Queens at a rally for Trans youth the other week I'd
love if you guys joined me it goes if you're queer and you know it clap your hands if you're queer and you know it clap your hands if you're and you know it then you really want to show it if you're and you know it clap your [Applause]
hands was G to talk about their attendance but they can just yeah they can just do whatever they want and they have seven of their old friends up there I wish my workplace was like that I wish I got reprimanded and people were like what no let's all vote and that's my friend but it's fine it's fine I would
like to draw attention to some wording in resolution 268 about the rubrics it says quote cc2 recognizes that consistent and transparent grading rubrics are essential for ensuring fairness equity and accountability for
all students I do not think what just happened up there was transparent I guess you could just remember really well what happened a year and a half ago and oops I forgot to change it until today when they would be outed but sure and I don't think they've been consistently showing up again if I
should my job only half the time I think people would talk to me be like I don't I don't know if there jobs for you and obviously people are parents things happen but like Gavin said there are I think there are people that clearly want to serve the students a lot more so just
like to remind everyone that campaign campaign season is here thank you for all the parents that are here you guys are so awesome I know it's not [Applause] easy words you know the voting process isn't the easiest uh let's just at place
andyc people out they're weird usually when I have a mic I'm doing karaoke I'll spare you I'm Margie Brickley and I'm on the faculty at Bank Street College of Education and so I've had the absolute
honor and Delight of uh educating some of the teachers administrators social workers educational support people here in this District um and I wanted to tell talk to tonight about two of the things that we
like to talk to our students about the first one is from our elders um it's not so much what you do with children it's who you are in the lives of children and I think that that's
something that yall can consider who are you in the lives of children families professionals and are you taking this seriously are you doing this with love and
compassion and think about what this means for all the children families and Professionals in this District the second thing I want to talk to you about is something about a little bit about Development I've been teaching child development for 35 years um and a lot of
the rhetoric seems to think that trans kids sometimes somehow wake up and discover that they're trans but we know in development that development is a bunch of cumulative experiences and so just like learning to walk is cumulative learning to read is
cumulative you don't wake up one day and learn to read have all these experiences that begin with the moment that somebody holds you in their arm arms and talks to you or sings to you and that helps your social emotional cognitive
development and so does gender and gender identity and racial identity all of those things have a cumulative experience and so the opportunities that we have as teachers and professionals is to either support
children in that development or hinder that development and the type of rhetoric that we're hearing is hindering that development and what it's going to happen is we're going to end up with children who are self-hating and we see some of what the results of self-hating
are here and some of the people who are here and and hate themselves and are rejecting the community who are the people who are going to be behind them when somebody tries to take away their marriage or their rights in any other way thank you
Amy and then Shannon Amy Shannon how to council how to y'all we've been accused of doing this just to make Community I don't know about you but
this is not the place I would go to build community there are more fun places that said it's been a year it's been a year since the anti trans resolution was passed and I think that's
worth noting I think it's worth recognizing let's start with this if you're D2 parent who here for Trans right stand up General stand up if you are here for Trans rights in general stand up whether you par not what we have built in a year and
y'all let's celebrate that traditionally it's cake and it's happy birthday now we're going to have cupcakes going around and if you would all join me and singing happy birthday to the movements one two threey birth
to happy birthday to you happy birthday to City and we do have cupcakes going around and we have some for our Progressive Champions as well happy birthday to Amy Neil Amy
Neil everyone can you hear me [Music] okay louder okay so a year ago I started coming to this meetings because of a resolution that said we wanted a
conversation and instrumental in any conversation is listening and that is what I fail to see every month when come back here hearing testimony which is expert testimony you have to say from Educators
caregivers trans people themselves board members from other districts and members of the Department of Education teachers stuff like this is a very very well discussed well rehearsed conversation at this point and the lack of change on the
board just reflects that your minds are made up and that you don't actually care about the facts this is like arguing about climate change all the science is on one side and some other interest is driving the resistance on the
other this board was actually sincere in wanting to protect girls and uplift girls CIS and trans there would be resolutions in the past year that would have called out the inequity that exists
for girls in every District of this city socioeconomic status race gender presentation are all obstacles in the learning environment that girls are forced to overcome and I have heard not one word from this board in the
direction of actually addressing those challenges so don't talk to me about wanting to help girls because I haven't heard anything from you that says to me you care about girls like me or my child
so I just have to call BS on that and what really blows my mind is that this is an election year and we have members of place NYC up on this board who choose chaos over reelection because they are so committed
to anti-trans rhetoric and anti-trans policy so just remember that for parents who are here when they go to vote in the C election Elena yeah your name is here that's fine okay um Lux Griffin Lux Griffin
all right and then the next is WK K and then Hannah [Music] Westerman evening can can y'all hear me am I good louder louder okay good
evening thank you for your time my name is Lux president and I'm here to shed some light on what things like res 48 due to trans see I didn't grow up in New York
City I grew up out west in deep bread parts of this country places where the kinds of messages resolution 248 send are said by nearly every adult in my life the trans
people are not worth your kindness your respect or your love they are worthy of your hatred and your fear funny me is that didn't stop me from being trans see transness is an intrinsic
quality of who I am no less immutable than color of my skin or the year of my birth and as puberty rolled around accumulation of things made it clear to me I was different
thinking about how much I wished I could dress like the other girls in class or being a bit too curious about how my friend was putting on her makeup and that doesn't mean that that message had no effect
on I took from that a lesson that I should fear those feelings that I should see my dreams of acceptance as nightmares and that I should hate the thing I was becoming and that that does things to you that puts a
blight on your soul no 14-year-old is a quick I turned bitter and violent I I fell in a bad crowd I did things I wasn't I'm not proud up to this day the important part is that there
were teachers in my life who intervene and gave me a place where I could be and this body has a choice does it want to be the adults that push me towards self-destruction or does it want to follow the example of those
teachers that it saved my life and that were the reason I saw a college dormant adulthood and not a jail cell or a coffin thank you again for there unfortunately I'm here to speak as one of those teachers because
resolution 248 and the legislation like it has devastating consequences not just for Trans kids but for every kid I have been in my classroom and counsel children through those tough moments where they thought that the adults like you didn't care about
them I don't think that's true even those of you that support 248 whether you're listening to me or not I believe that each and every one of you care about your kids and the kids in this district and the kids all over New York City but you're not
shown and so I'm a debate coach one of the things I do is the first thing I tell my students that debate is not a speaking activity but it's a listening activity and so to those of you who were or are or might be in support of 248 I'm
begging you to listen to those that have already spoken to those that will speak after me because this has consequences that I'm afraid you don't understand and I'm begging you to hear us to hear the children in your lives and to hear from those like Professor Brickley and others
who many know better than you humility is difficult I've had to learn a lot of it in my life but I am begging you to listen and to hear and to make a decision that works for all children and not just for the people that help get you here and not just for the people
that you think you're helping please and thank you for your time I'm Hannah my proun are they then um I just want to acknowledge that it's wild that the attenders is just written so that members this council could have been their seats and on that note
elections um is anyone in the room a current dist Inc you are a person who does it right now chances are that you may without knowing it or I am tasking to find someone with aun for liberation
um with aunties for Liberation myself and others have formed a group composed of parents and allies that are working towards supporting D2 candidates and spreading awareness about cc2 the elections and how to vote if you want to join this group as we figure that out come talk to me about connecting with
the greater Coalition I believe in the past only 7% of parents voted in CC elections but I know that will change and we will help to change that so A few important pieces number one right now through April 24th their candidate
forums happening on Zoom for all the districts in New York city so you can learn about who's running in the CC elections uh the cc2 candidate forum is happening April 8th that's a Tuesday from 600 to 9 everyone C in their
calendars um and then from April 25th to May 13th voting happens uh parents will use their NYC schools accounts Nisa to place their votes a lot of people may not even realize they need one or have
one um for both of these pieces that I just mentioned um I want to mention that I have a fly I want to pass it around it has information on a deliberation it has information on the QR code on accessing
your n accounts and it has a QR code for uh siging out about candidate for so please come get them pass them around we're going to vote all these people on this side of the table out and I'm so excited okay hey uh my name is eie uh
I'm a transwoman uh a lefty college professor uh and a boxer and I've hesitated to talk about my experience in sports here for several meetings uh since I'm an adult and resolution 248 and this whole board don't forget uh has
a bearing on k through eight students but there is one relevant Point uh I think I can make um as an athlete I work really really hard uh I so I do have an advantage over anyone less practiced
less skilled or less conditioned as me regardless of their or my assigned sex at first the so-called debate around children playing sports often hinges on a cynical and sexist fantasy that almost any child
assigned mail at Birth will take puberty blockers and then I guess just easily dominate K through 8 Athletics but think about it doesn't this discount the dedication of young non-trans girl athletes I think this fantasy certainly cheapens the hard work
of all young athletes regardless of their sex and gender last meeting Leonard in implied that this board has no real power implying that 248 was just to start a conversation you have the power to empower students Craig our wayward
comrades you have the power to empower young lgbtq students we all have the power to empower young people do we really want the narrative to be that no matter how hard girls work at what they love they will always be beaten by the boys
or that CIS girls should be afraid of the girls fighting tooth and nail to be there alongside their non-tr teammates for a chance to play as equals if this is the story we want to tell young people we have lost our way because real in reality this story really has no
evidence and it only empowers the further erosion of quality of life for Trans kids for sin 248 past 270 thank you anaria are you here Annabelle okay welcome and then after that it's Chloe
alanar Chloe you're here and then saming signed up again for this session but since session all good hello I'm an and it's great back to be back for another meeting and glad to see
that we actually have Forum right now hopefully we keep it the 18th amended to the US Constitution was start prohibition within the US the 21st directly repealed the 18 last meeting I referenced the Infamous 3 fth compromise the 14th sued it without expc referring
it to the original text after last meeting Craig shared that his biggest holdup on 269 is the director recision of 248 the text in question States therefore be it further resolved that C2 hereby resids resolution 248 I asked
Craig I recognize you can right now but what changes could be made to the last sentence of 269 to make your vote a yes vote uh Len you had made a point last month and asking if the chancelor had any had made any changes to the guidelines in response to 248 even with
no changes to the guidelines your word still have power last time I spoke to this board I mentioned a study on state laws and their effect on suicide you it's not the direct impact of the laws that affect you but how they shape the attitude and behavior of people
around them about a year ago next Benedict a non-binary student Oklahoma walked into school bathroom in that room they were attacked by a group of girls who had been bullying nexts for DAV the floor was painted with NE their blood but next
survived the next day next succumb to an intentional overdose next bandic should have never been attacked they should be with us today we should live in a world where no one has to go through what next left through why I ask you and the rest of
your colleagues you guys can look me in the eyes by the way as a cc I ask you to use your power as a cc board member and as an individual of a community to help make that world a reality thank you everyone look
hello my name is Chloe elentari I am a resident of the East Village and I am a holder of a Doctorate in Education with over 20 years of Public School teaching experience and thank you the reason that I come to you tonight is because I want
to talk to you about my experience as a trans kid all the trans people in this room were trans kids at Point yes and policies like resolution 248
when I in 1990 when I was n years old and I realized I was trans irreparably changed my life and harmed me and nobody at the time even knew it and this is what I want to call your attention to nobody at the time knew the
harm that it was causing to me because these things existed I chose to be safe and do as I think a lot of conservatives want trans kids to do and just hide who they are and pretend to be something that they're not and so
for the next 33 years after I realized I was trans I pretended to be a boy I did my best all that it got me was anxiety depression confusion and ultimately an
unsuccessful attempt on my own life so I want those of you who are here volunteering to do what you believe to be as good and try to help School uh school kids in this city to think about the fact that perhaps three or four
decades from now when your own memory of serving on this board is a distant memory there might be a trans person attempting to end their own life because of some something that you did
when you passed resolution 248 and if you're not okay with that show us you're not okay with that and show us that you realize that you can listen and you can learn to all of these experts in the room who are
telling you you are hurting kids show us by resending resolution 248 thank you yes sure Shane Allan and then r i r y a a r I apologize
I did a little rewrite to uh if I can have a little help we'll rewrite to We Will Rock You So what I need to is the music part right the course you run around town now acting
kind of crazy listen to this crowd now you're looking kind of shady you got no shade you got no Grace SP big a tree all over the place you want to drag us down back to the90s tired of old TRS to keep us fing
you got no shame you got no we trans hat all over your face [Music] wants to divide us together stand T we won't be divided when we show our Grace and we show our face stand
up will will you come on sing it will will rock you one more time will rock you thank you way this is what an actual Coalition
looks like not the two people that up to lame ass panel in January when you were sick the same [Music] week too then Michael my name is Gloria I am Lou hi
can you hear me now my name is Gloria I am a district 2 parent I have children 11 as well as for Ruth Middle School uh they are girls have friends friends of all types
and I want them and their friends to be safe in school I want them to be able to go to school and Thrive and how do they Thrive by being with your friends by playing sports by being Physically Active why would we do anything to Bar them
from doing that kids need to feel safe and schools and that's your job to listen to your constituents right I'm your constituent I'm asking you to resend resolution 248 P 269 and also P
270 please thank you so much Michael hi uh I'm Michael lob I was a teacher at ps11 um I taught for seven years in at uh Brooklyn um and was a professor at uh Brooklyn College in the teacher
education program I'm also the parent of a junior was a trans um child and I just want to say a couple things one that it's never too late if you could look
up if you could look up I'll use my time to wait it's disrespectful okay umk um um so it's never too late um to be
respectful or to listen to children and parents um the question that I ask all of my students um who are becoming teachers is what is the purpose of education so hopefully you're thinking about
that the purpose of that of education is certainly not to harm children and the purpose of education or the what makes a a skilled teacher is getting to know your children you can't know your children if you don't respect
them if you don't listen to them if you don't show them care Catherine ending with jel so the okay and thenine and then jeel can you all hear me in the back [Applause]
hello can you all hear me in the back it seems super loud right now now I'm more nervous I'm the parent of a trans kid who attended last month's Tec 13 meeting where they passed a resolution against
Trump's anti-trans executive order know what happens at cc13 meetings they offer child care they feed you empanadas they introduce resolutions talk about them and then they vote on them without any drama there's no mod there who screeches
about trans girls playing sports there's no Charles that yells at a Gavin there's no Daniela who stares at her phone the whole meeting because she has no respect for parents' children or doing her job there's no one running away from the meeting to screw up quum or only showing
up to doctor the minutes from two years ago to save their seats energized they are excited to do the work they voted in favor of the resolution 7 to one then they ask parents to come back because they want us there with them fighting for equity in
schools can you imagine what that would be like to have a functional Council here follow parents listening tonight all over the city this is our opportunity to choose the best people to represent our values and to protect our
kids in our city from the fascist fascist infiltrating CCS who want to ban books segregate schools and Bully trans kids participate in the candidate forums happening this month you can find them online make sure you can access your
Nick account so you can vote start on April 25th commit to rallying three friends to vote and ask them to do the same with their friends let's vote in some positive energy the last speaker public
jeel Raina Catherine then yeah we did that we we did right yeah they came up yeah they did yeah no I did and then they came up yeah and then Shane came up and then Gloria came
up not speak guess someone else spoke on their behalf okay okay go ahead uh hi my name is Bryce and I go to s in high school so I've been asked by my peers
and adults for support with uh queer dilemas in my school I work by helping my community become more assisting for queers and transgender people because some of them have parents who don't want to support their decisions or
have people like adults in their life that also don't want to support their decisions um we are who we are and being a child shouldn't mean that we are unheard or need iron typ boundaries over our rights my friends and schoolmates don't
deserve to stress about what adults think about their rights and how they cannot get support on on top of academic stress love your kids for who they are and support them or they'll live the life that they want without you Rin 428 thank
you Catherine and then Joe good evening my name is cther shach I'm a pediatrician so I'm here to add to the list of experts that have been cited thank you first of all for the representation of the American Academy
of Pediatrics which was very well represented already as a pediatrician I have experienced treating both sports injuries and depression I'm here to tell you that there is no literature on CIS girls
getting injured by trans girls and play sports there is however extensive literature on depression and suicide among trans youth there is also extensive literature on trans youth being injured
physically and emotionally by other people othering kids marginalizes them and empowers Bullies othering any child makes all children feel
vulnerable I'm here to say that I am not the expert that you need tonight trans Youth and trans adults are the real experts please listen to them please respect
them please protect them please resend 248 hi oh Jesus CHR all right that's part of my time that's my time um my name is Jules and I um am here even though I really don't want to be and I see that many of you
are pained by like I seeing all of us month after month we don't want to be here either if you could just like recent and actually care about students which also has me thinking of I truly don't like this panel does not seem representative of neither the students nor the families um in this district
from like look at the my math isn't that great but like when we had people stand up I know you hate um some of you don't like trans kids but the fact that you don't like transparency and the shenanigans that happened at the beginning of this meeting was completely nonsense um I feel like you're pulling a
share I turn back time who by the way has a trans um child but again you probably wouldn't recognize that um I don't think like I want to invite you to talk to children I work mostly in elementary schools and when I go to a school I look and sound like this I got a low boy short hair I usually get are
you a boy or a girl and I'm like I'm a girl what are you boy or girl or something else and then they move on one time a kid was like are you a man or a lady and I want to be like I am no lady but we had we got through it and 5-year-olds can understand it and I'm not really clear why y all can't and to that point I'm going to show you a picture of a child who could be in a k
to8 school and what kind of sports this child be playing would you have a way of finding out without asking to see this child's genitalia or how would you know gend of the child or do you insist on seeing a child genitalia to know what sports they're supposed to P when they're in K to AG schools again this is
child and you don't have a clue of what their gender is so it's freaking iy um but again just talk kids if you want to learn about where kids want um oh and I wanted to end on a joke of like how many cc2 district people does take turn light bulb um we don't have quum so we're G
have to talk about that actually now we do have please thank you that concludes the public session thank you thank you everybody for uh mostly St for two minutes I appreciate that um we'll go on to the president's report uh thank you good evening
everybody uh first I want to thank ps183 for hosting us thank you to the principal Mr Woodard uh who could not be here tonight stay tonight and his staff your hospitality couple of announcements uh I just wanted to remind everyone that under the New York City kids Rise program we K through three grade
students in New York public schools are eligible to receive New York City scholarship account with initial $100 and opportunities to receive more rewards over time you likely would have received emails or texts about this or probably if anybody who has a k through3 student you probably received about 20
text about this um but if you haven't the best place to start is with your school's parent coordinator a reminder that we're in the school survey season so if you have not already uh please fill out your school surveys uh they're valuable tools for feedback for all of our principal um remember you can fill one out you
fill out one for each child enrolled so if you have three children in the same school you can fill out three surveys the surveys are at www.nycschoolsurvey.org and you will need to your osis number which can be found in your Nixa account
or your parent coordinator can help you another reminder that this deadline for summer Rising is March 28th so if you're interested please sign up at my schools.nyc you can find out more more information at schools.nyc.gov
summarising uh superintendent Maguire when you give your report if you could remind us of the various schools if I don't remember off hand uh that would be helpful some other important dates uh kindergarten offers will be released on April 2nd middle school offers April 9th
3K and prek application offers honor about May 13th g&t applications for the upper grades 1 through four open in late April I think it's April 21st and they remain open until May 9th um CC elections are coming up as was spoken earlier voting opens up on April
25th and closes on May 13th candidate profiles are on the doe website so each candidate have the opportunity to write uh I think it was 400 words up to 400 words uh you can find the link on our www. cc2.0
um everybody goes once so it's not like like if Glen was running like go on three nights it's just one one per night uh links are on the doe website but again you can find the link to register for those forums uh cc d2.com to vote to vote you have to be the parent or guardian of a current of a
child currently enrolled in a New York Public Schools public school uh you vote in your child's District if your child is in uh such a program you would vote in the C for the ccsse which is for special education ccell which is for English language Learners or cc75 as
well we have Representatives here from face sitting over there if you have any questions or you can of course contact your parent coordinator uh on that uh and I keep talking about the parent coordinators they are unsung heroes
um I was on a cc president's call with Chancellor Rus this week uh she reported that just far with the exception of some very small things nothing directly to New York public schools has been got from cut from the US Department of Education yet and I emphasize yet obviously they have cut a significant
amount of staff so what's really being affected now is the implementation of rules and monitoring of Rights so we have to pay close attention to this and be vigilant with our federal elected um also it was reported that 150 school safety agents were approved to start the academy this fall I know
sometimes we hear of cuts but it's also nice to hear that the city continues to hire and train these important parts of our schools um and finally e is coming up so I want to wish those who celebrate and ID Mubarak that do e muar um I hope you
all have a good holiday uh and with that I'm going to turn the meeting over to our uh District Two superintendent Kelly Maguire see how far all this gets us um do have a presentation over there so if you can see it that would be helpful
yeah there you go um so thank you so much cc2 for having me this evening thank you families for coming out tonight um we have a lot of exciting things that are happening again in District 2 very thankful to the good work that is happening across our schools in 3K through 8th grade uh one
thing that we want to just jump off right away and celebrate is a uh literary magazine a student literary magazine that has been nationally recognized for the past couple of years at sulk Middle School uh they are going to be traveling to the CTE the National
Council of teachers of English uh to uh receive an award for their good work uh you can see some samples of the um salt literary Magazine on Instagram it's really high quality and they do fantastic work there uh we also want to
celebrate that this past week was Civics for all across our um city uh many of our schools have been working in Civics for all activities um District 2 became a Civics for all district in the past year uh and we have a growing number of
schools that are participating in different activities they have invited elected officials to come to their schools to talk about voting uh they have participated in participatory budgeting in which groups of students get uh a chunk of money to think about how it is that they want to spend it to
improve the quality of their school uh and then they've also been participating in uh activities like project soapbox uh project soapbox is uh gives kids the opportunity to uh put together a speech much in the way a an elected official would do so and um
we have two students from Battery Park City school that are going to be participating in the city-wide event they were selected to participate in the Citywide soap box that's going to be happening later this spring so very happy and proud of our students here in District 2 uh and for the good work that
they are participating in uh in regation to Civics for all um later on this month uh we have our a new Spotlight visit School Spotlight visit coming up at ps124 the Young Wing school U ps124 as
with many of the schools in our district has a strong New York City reads New York City solves initiative um they are going to take a special focus on thinking about how the issue of belonging really melds with uh a student's ability to learn so uh we're
going to see how it is that um they are blending and academic uh at the Young ring school um and we hope that council members join us if you are uh have time to visit us on April 2 uh in the morning at ps124 uh we want to take um some special
time to look at our math work um through our NYC solves initiative um we spend the vast majority of our time really thinking about how it is that we're impacting students in the classroom thinking about how it is that we're improving access to mathematics science
reading and writing thinking about how it is that we're creating positive environments for all students uh through our New York City sols initiative we've done a couple of things that I think are really exciting and interesting um we have been working with
our with our district math does this thing move uh with our district math coaches um and so what we're doing is that we're taking new learning each time we get together with our teachers uh and then um applying that work in classrooms
this past month what we did was that we took all of our sixth grade teachers across the district on one day all of our seventh on another all of our eighth and another and we brought them to a school taught them some new ways of uh approaching planning uh and then presented them with a classroom full of
students and they had to implement that those new strategies directly with the kids uh this real Hands-On learning is uh a way in which we think that we can be most effective in helping to support our teachers with new learning and work in our classrooms uh earlier this week we also
hosted a Citywide visit um for the districts across the city that are using the Whitten and wisdom curriculum as a part of the NYC reads curriculum we are at PS3 on Monday uh and so we invited uh folks from district 18 District 19
District 3 district 15 uh and District Two Of course as well as members of our central office um one of the things that's really exciting about uh the NYC reads and the adoption of the Whitten and wisdom curriculum is thinking and is seeing how it is that our teachers are
growing but also seeing how it is that they are adapting this curriculum to serve and support different groups of kids PS3 is a very diverse Community uh and they have a large population of students who are part of the ASD Horizons program um the autism spectrum
disorder program uh at PS3 they have a class in kindergarten through fifth grade uh and we were able to see how it is that teachers in the ASD Horizon classes were really able to adapt this curriculum to serve all students uh we also had a visit uh just last week at
ps42 uh in which they also welcomed uh families in from the ASD Nest program there um this is a group of fifth graders that were at the ASD Nest program and many of them are excited and anxious also to think about moving on to Middle School um our ASD middle school
program is at lab middle um and we got to see that earlier this school year uh as a part of our school Spotlight visit tours um there are a couple of updates that I think are important to note um in regard to uh memos that have come out
directly from Chancellor vus Ramos um president slutkin did talk about uh legislation uh and executive orders that are coming directly from Washington um Chancellor AAS Ramos has wanted to make sure that our community is aware of um
how it is that New York City is approaching this and wants to reiterate our commitment to diversity equity and inclusion wants to make sure that we we recognize that our schools are safe spaces for all students uh including our lgbtq plus
students and uh last night I participated in the Citywide Council for English language Learners uh and Chancellor Ramos reiterated her and the city's commitment to multilingualism
bilingualism and trans uh translation interpretation Services um across the uh across the city um so we're excited about the work that um is moving forward uh and CH the chancellor has uh reiterated her commitment uh and our
City's commitment to this work um a couple of people here have talked about the candidate forum that are coming up as a part of the uh CC uh elections for this year um we actually have three nights of candidate performs because we have the largest number of
folks who have come out uh to apply and run for a cc uh seat for the coming service so those are April 8th April 9th and April 10th uh in the evenings again that information about those forums are
online um and then you can see also actually maybe you can see but so I'll reiterate here uh the information about voting is open April 25th to May 13th uh parents are voting online through their Nix account there is a period of time in
which runoff elections may occur if uh so necessary and then elections are announced in June and then members take uh office in July 1st and we have then our first c meeting of the new term in
July uh with that uh just a couple of uh final notes in regard to the end of year uh calendar um as president slutkin mentioned uh e alaer is coming at the end of this month uh that is a non-attendance day for students and
staff uh we are closed for closed for spring recess April 14th to 18th uh and then coming up soon um right after the spring break our our state Ela exams most of our school students are going to be taking these exams uh via computer
your computer-based testing in grades four five six and 8 uh grades three and seven are our last remaining grades that are still taking the test on paper uh and then in May uh we have our New York State mathematics exam again the same
grades uh taking the computer the tests on computer and uh the same group of kids who are taking same group of students who are taking it on uh on paper so uh thank you so much for your time and with that I'm happy to answer any questions you
have thank you I'll start off and then I'll I'll turn it over to my Council Council Members First Victor we have translation the office of translation services is coming next month to present so they'll be here o I think they changed their name but essentially that group they'll be here next month to
present to us they they come out every year um my first question is on the class size implementation I've been hearing and this is more on the high school level but I want to ask about D2 we've talked about this some of the high schools have mentioned as a way of implementing class
sizes and working with the 80% rule for next year remote learning going to remote you have said in the past that there has been no discussion amongst D2 schools of going into remote learning to uh implement the class size uh law for next year is that still the case yes
that is still the case Okay so no conversations no plans what nothing about remote learning in great Elementary School okay then the second question I have which is going back to the New York solves it's really about more of the math curriculum my understanding and please correct me if
I'm wrong is that right now in D2 we have two different curriculum curricula I guess is get the word and that by next year it's going to be in all integrated the integrated math I think or whatever what is the uh one that's going to be next
year it's a little bit more complic can can you talk a little bit about that yeah so um um currently in our district we have a few different math curricula that are going on um we have illustrative mathematics that are is being used in some of our elementary
schools we have another of schools that have recently adopted a different curriculum called Eureka Square uh and then and then and then uh we have some schools
that are continuing to use uh and a program called investigations um so the two curricula that are really fully aligned to the Next Generation learning standards out of the box um are illustrative mathematics and Eureka squar
investigations when it's being used in schools can be a fine curriculum but schools do need to supplement that curriculum with additional materials uh in order to um make sure that the kids are getting all that they need in order to meet those State Standards there is
not a mandate um for elementary schools to move to one curricula next year or even a choice of different curricula um but we are beginning to look at a roll out over the next couple of years uh
toward a um a few different choices which actually haven't been released yet 100% um but we are looking at a few different options for elementary school kids uh elementary schools that are fully aligned with the Next Generation learning standards um and some of our
schools are starting to make that choice um with the adoption of a new reading curriculum we just schools just have to really consider the change management that they can handle at their at their school how is that how is that going to be determined I know I remember with wh
wisdom you had a choice of three you convened a group of District leaders uh and principles uh and then you that's how you collectively or ultimately you made a decision but more of a collective decision to choose with wisdom as opposed to the other two which I think probably was the right answer how is
that going to be decided on on the map side is that going to be a similar process um it depends on what the ask is um I only know what kind of convers what I've had in conversations with our Central uh
team in regard to elementary school math curricula I don't know if we're going to be asked to just choose one for the District or if there is uh options if there are options for different schools to choose different things is there one person the other that you like or you've
gotten more feedback because I've heard antidotal so I don't have the detailed information but I've heard the illustrative math that people are not happy with it but is there one that you like or you hate or you'd love to get rid of or one that you absolutely love and this is how you know when you retire
you're going to say I got this math program in yes I my life is complete yeah I in my life is already complete but um uh I I mean the two that are most popular in our schools are the two that I think are currently strongest which
are Eureka squared and illustrative map the um but there's a a slightly different approach toward learning map in those two different curricula one is uh more centered on explicit and direct instruction uh one is more centered on
um students grappling with big math problems uh and um producing what it is that they know is more conceptual um to start with and then there's explicit instruction built into it
um both our elementary schools that use Eureka and both our schools that use illustrative have been successful with these curricula um and so my choice for our schools would be one or the other of those two I do have another question but I don't
want to hog this so I'm going to let my council members go if they have questions anybody have any questions from the council okay one one last question this is probably a very different answer that the high school
superintendent would answer but so but I'm asking more in this District could you talk about how much we use AI in this district and how much do you expect will that roll up will that roll down do you even have a plan which maybe there is no plan right now on fine that's the
case but could you talk about the use of AI classroom yeah there is not a comprehensive plan um right now in terms of how it is we're using AI um in District 2 we have some um teachers and
some schools that are uh working more closely with it than others and they're really working with AI around uh a few kind of discret things uh generating uh questions in relationship to uh science
social studies uh content um that they really want students to Grapple with um they are um using AI uh not as a um a direct tool for uh tutoring and intervention um but they are using AI to
help to generate um teex sets or problem sets that kids can work on that are in um in ation to how it is that they're currently performing um on a uh on a task or on a unit um people are using AI
a little bit in order to evaluate students essays um but really it's just experimental right now um and I think that we are looking toward how it is that we might um think about this
challenge as a City Chancellor Banks had convened um an AI committee uh in which uh I was a part of um and then we had the switch in uh leadership and so um Chancellor V Ramos has recently uh named
that she is going to reup that um committee to look at uh AI for the coming year when you say evaluate essays or compositions are they grading instead of the teachers grading I don't I don't think that's what you mean but I want to make sure it's more of uh to be able to
look at a student's writing and determine where the connections are to the standards that they're trying to reach through the writing uh and where it is that the essay may miss um and so it is H yeah not marking a a grade A letter grade or percentage grade on the
exam but more just in order to get a sense of where a sample a work sample might align to the standards or not yeah I mean I I'm not knocking AI my my concern and maybe this is this is a separate meeting maybe we have somebody come in and discuss this is the guard
rails of AI collecting all this information about our kids and God know Lord knows what they're going to what happens with that information because with AI they there such an ability to take such information who knows what
yes hello thank you so much a question that came to mind is about our like Guard railing our our um the internet that that's school and what is coming through lots of parents are brought up that when their kids are in technology
unless comes up in other schools that they're able to access many different sites that may not be appropriate so unfortunately an incident recently we in my daughter's class that um they were watching taking a Bluey like movement
break on YouTube and then something popped up with yeah um I don't say nude but it was a nude colored bathing suit of female body and all the kids or like oh my God there's a naked person on how are we like kind of
screening or moning I know AI is blocked but it seems like other sites are not blocked sure um well if that happened in your child's class and it happened as a result of the teacher playing something um I would love to hear about it because
we want to make sure that um that does not happen again and that that event is looked into um I will say that um you know our student stents are very good at um getting around certain uh you know
security systems that are available on the internet but um our the Department of Education has gotten much better at um putting up um firewalls and things that that uh don't allow students to
gain access to that that being said um they're constantly working on it I do think that when that kind of thing occurs uh that um it does need to be looked at in the school and ask the question needs to be asked like why did this even happen or why did the child
have access uh in a way that they um where they could um do their own exploration if they if the student is like finding this stuff on their own um but we are always trying to improve our security systems in I was wondering is
this school specific or is it overall kind of what guard rails are like wall or where which sites are blocked yeah it's a Citywide systems that are put in place yes one one last question for me and then I promise I will stop um and and you don't have to answer this if you're
not prepared tonight I understand we had the speaker earlier talk about the regions class the regions math in Middle Schools or in somewhere or the other do you want to comment on that talk about that tonight or yeah I can say something about that I mean as I've said here um before uh not all of our school in Prior
years had offered Regents exams um in our middle schools uh that is something that we have changed all of our schools do offer regent exams in both math and in science we have also greatly expanded the number of kids who are taking uh
region in both math and in science there are some schools um that do not uh administer the regent exams to all students in math and in science and if that's a situation that a parent a child is not currently taking the exam in math
or in science I do encourage families to talk with um their school administration if that's something that they're pursuing I can say in many cases we want to give kids access to region Math and Science because it does help to um put
them on a pathway towards more advanced mathematics and science in high school we also want to make sure that we're making smart choices for kids um around uh Math and Science and they're not moving forward uh at a uh toward a course that they might not be prepared for we want them to be successful in
high school uh and that re that's that is a reality um so um but I would be happy to talk to any parent about that so I have a question about the the state test and particularly um regarding the the rights of parents to opt out of
the state opt their children out of the state test um which I understand they they can do just basically like usually like sending an email to to the school to the assister I know um it does seem to the policy seem to vary a little bit across schools and for example in my um
in elementary school I recall one time where you know I sent the email to say that that year I we wanted to opt out of the of the state tests and and I got a email back from the principal saying well it's a requirement that that we have a phone call to discuss it and and I I actually knew that wasn't the case
so I just email back and said you know I'm you know I'm busy I know there's no requirement so we're going to opt out and that was the end of it but I just wondered what is the direction that that the district gives to the the principales um District Li about oping out the state
CL um we will make sure to clarify the rule in which it states that um a parent can opt their child out of the exam by contacting the principal of the school um and so we'll make sure that they um do know that um we do uh we encourage
kids to take the state exam um it is not used for any high stakes manner uh in our city right now in terms of admissions to middle school or high school it's a good snapshot for us to just get another piece of information about how a child is doing but of course
that's a choice that every family has to make on their own I'm sorry about for the middle schools you mentioned that that all middle schools now offer science because I know that that was a resolution we had brought up to bring back um the science and the ELA like the the regions right
for I was under the impression only five middle schools were approved for that is that it or not so we have that's not true no every and Ela no we don't yeah Math and Science could be in that pathway for yes beautiful okay
thank you and if anybody has any questions for superintendent wire uh you can you can contact him directly it's not a Q&A session now unfortunately he may be here at the end of the meeting depending on what time but otherwise you can always go to the district's website not our
website District district the number two nyc.org and the contacts for superintendent and his entire team are on there so you can email him do you have a question I'm sorry M has a question hi hi superent good evening um
so we have resolution number 268 on the agenda that deals with standardized rubrics so I just want to get your feedback just in terms of um how is the rub who who is the most responsible how are rubrics done in
terms of grading for individual schools district to like the like where's the primary rules come from and what what impact principales have or or School leadership teams could you just let us know
so you know a rubric is a pretty complex tool that's used to grade a single piece of work or category of work or general uh assignment that a student might get in their school um they are generally
done and built in schools uh between teachers and an instructional coach perhaps an administrator administrator along with them at times there are um rubrics that are provided by uh a publisher
or by a program um that is uh being used in the school um yeah that's how they're that's how they're built and developed what I'm guessing what I really want to know is to what extent do you as the district 2 superintendent with your team uh
influence if at all I don't know uh influence the individ rubrics at individual schools so we've gotten involved in rubrics when they are associated with a curriculum that is being used across the district or or an assignment that's
being done across the district um and it's uh myself but also a couple of coaches that work um on our team specifically around instruction uh we do not review rubrics that are particular
that are directly connected to an assignment that might be done in a one school but not in another uh might be done in relationship to a project that's a done in a school but not in another um our work
really is involved when we have rubrics that come uh alongside a Core Curriculum that is being used across the district that's where we think that we can be most effectual in making sure that teachers know what the standards are they know what exemplary practice looks
like um and they know what how it is that they should use that rubric to evaluate students and I will just say that rubrics are not always used to assign a weather grade or a number grade um they're often used as a developmental
Tool uh to help a teacher identify how it is that they're uh going to improve um their instruction or what skill that they're going to focus on in the next day or next week to help kids uh be the best that they can is there any standardized uh attempt by by you or
your staff to standardize rubs amongst the schools of District Two or is that just what you're telling is BAS individual basis as part of an assessment to see whether it supports with the curriculum that you may teaching I mean there are hundreds and
thousands of rubrics that are being used across the district right now um because uh uh schools have different things that they teach that are really important to them and if they want to do it well uh they create a rubric alongside it as a support tool
again we think that the way in which we can be influential in this and supportive of this is when we're working with rubrics that are connected to the curricula that are used most across the district last series of question almost done just and then the trans the connection between the rubrics and the
grading that's done is there any any um influence that you as the district superintendent have to kind of standardize the connection between those rits and grads that are issued by IND ual schools for specific classes or grades or courses things like that not
directly um there are a lot of different factors that come into place not just as a part of how I do my job um but there are uh factors that come into play that relate to Chancellor's regulations and rules and Partnerships with um with our
labor partners that uh impact um grading across the district the way that we think that we can be most effectual is making sure that teachers really really know what uh it means to be excellent on a task um and uh what the components of
that are um so that they are rating as accurately as they can in relationship to a rubric but again it's not a you know end of course assignment that we're often looking at we're looking at like a big essay that's done as a part of like end of the unit or
something like that ultimately we that the super I'm sorry that the principal of the school at a specific school would be the binary person is responsible for determining either the rubrics or the grading connection between the rubrics and the grading grading in a school
really is um not a solely determined uh it's not a decision that only the principal makes um they do make it in partnership with their teachers um they do make it in partnership with their slts in some cases um but since teachers
do have some autonomy uh in their classrooms um they really do take the take um teachers practice um and expertise into consideration when doing that gr um I won't ask you about um how many hours of professional development
collectively would be required to standardize all um end of the semester end of the year grading rubrics across um 1800 um schools in our system and 80,000 teachers but I will ask you about um the 50 or so schools in the district too and
I'm not sure how many um teachers but it's a quite considerable number of teachers in our district um how many um hours collectively of professional development do you think it would require um to to implement and also just to monitor over the course of a year um
the implementation of a standardized breading rubric for end of the year um grades across our district schools um it would it would take a lot um I'm not going to put a number on it but it would take a lot um I do think
that you know parents who have reached out specifically in relationship to 268 or who haven't me mentioned 268 but just have reached out to ask about grading in um our district and our schools um I do think that there is a valuable
conversation to be had um not perhaps in the purpose of U getting people more on the same page of how it is that we're doing grading but also to make sure that we are um coming at this question of
grading uh with with more clarity um I think if people are asking then we should try to um be clearer about how it is that we are uh grading students and that I think is something that a lot of people probably could agree on and learn
from um you are the superintendent of District Two so you're essentially representing the students of District Two correct would you characterize that corre I'm not trying to be an attorney sorry no if other districts gave great
inflation based upon the type of class and your we didn't in District 2 as a representative district 2 would you be concerned for your student that they were not being treated equitably in the high school admissions process I understand where the um
concern about uh Equitable access um to Preferred schools and I'm not talking about preferred as in like these are preferred these are not just like every child what the schools that they want to attend um I do think that
we need to look at what our numbers currently are and what the data currently do say um around grading um as I mentioned there's already a concern because people have questions about it and we need we
could do more to be clear um but I don't know if the data necessarily bear out that some schools have um are moving more students into the schools that screen uh in from some districts or even
from some schools in our district um because of how it is that they're graded I think that we need to look at where kids are coming from in their middle school and look at uh what high schools they're getting into and whether or not um grades uh weight a grades have an
impact if they do then yes I would be concerned um but I don't I don't even honestly I don't even know the extent to which that happens across the city um I can say that um this is something that I do think that we can be on the same page
with um in District Two but I also don't know quite the impact of um any kind of additional weight for a a weighted course even has on um uh a student's access from school a versus School B to
I mean we have heard anotal that move a couple of K some kids up into tier one versus tier two so you you you do agree that there are certain assessments elas math tests that are used to evaluate school performance in both a district level individual
School level how many students are read a grade level things like that you agree with me on that right that's a basic assumption right let's start with that just really simple right would you agree with me that there are currently tests such as the elas and
math tests that that um that evaluate students and those test are used kind of to evaluate performance and to give you a general idea like our students in District per School our kids read need a grade level for example or fourth graders read a grade level or how is
this District compared with other districts just is an assessment a basic assessment we use testing we use elas we use math what I'm curious about is there any does anyone review for example if a student gets an A in English and ends up
getting a one on an ELA test or if a student gets a four on a math test and ends up uh um getting you know is there any it looks to see if there's a call between those types of and I'm only about two things correlations between Ela or math scores and actual grades or
final grades in a class so I find it suspect sometimes when we see examples of students who who get you know A's in a math class and they get a one on a math test they could have a bad day I it's possible but is there any current
evaluation proc where you guys looked and we say hey wait a minute Clos everyone got one why is everyone getting you know 90s in this class I'm just curious um yes if it's okay with
[Music] one for what it's worth it's wor I can give you a historical answer is when District Two worked on the um niip plan the New York State integration plan that we were funded for we did
look when we worked on the niip plan uh I think in 2019 uh which we were funded this District was funded and some of that funding finished when superintendent Maguire uh first took on his superintendency we did look at um with
actually uh Professor Maran who was on that team the correlation between grades and test scores at various schools um and she plotted them out throughout the entire District um and you can look at the differentials in some schools and some schools the grades were
significantly higher than the state test scores and some they were lower the school as I recall this was several years ago but the school that grafted most neatly between grades and test scores was lab Middle School um it was uh you could make
comparisons um with regard to the data that you're asking about and talking about and the differentials between grades and test scores so that's doable we've done it before and it's a ailable to look at um if it would be helpful to um assess the merits and validity of the
resolution that's before um the district because that is not by me because I'm not the datae head but it is plottable and um it was quite interesting to see it when we looked at it during the niip process okay uh one one last thing this should be an easy one because I know you
took a line of fire tonight um a couple months ago I was at B Tech your legislative breakfast I got to reconnect with an old friend your new Young Dynamic leader she's here tonight want to introduce her e e
e e e e e e e e e there's actually quite a bit of um quite
a few advisory opinions from the committee on open government of New York state which um you know this is a public body and so our meetings are um governed by the open open meetings law and it actually that we are we that no one can
be required to you know indicate certain personal details about themselves in order to speak you can't be required to list your residence or other things you're entitled to speak and so I would say and the on the same token we can't you know ask people and say like oh if you if you voluntarily dispose your
District 2 parental status you can you know you can speak first um me the community has a right to speak and and we are you know we have an obligation to not discriminate against you know any members of the community this future I think this this bylaw amendment
is is just it's just it's just needless and I think we should just wrote it down I also am really wondering what is the difference between Authority and discretion like the chair shall the authority to suspend the second public speaker session and the chair shall have the discretion to prioritize the order of speakers like is there some meaningful difference between Authority
and discretion but I mean either way they're both they're both so let's just move on sorry I was the the second laptop the battery died so I apologize so I had to De with that um I'm gonna make a motion
to amend this to make the first line the chair shall have the authority to suspend the Public public speaker essage adding for the purpose of managing time so it's very deliberate in there and then in the second sentence of the shair shall have I'll add the end in compliance with New York State open
meetings law and New York St education law just in case to to Gavin's point if there we want to make sure we are complying with the laws so everything will I want it explicitly state it in compliance with New York State open meetings law and New York State education law so I will make that motion
to make an an amendment is there any discussion on that yes sorry before you do that is there any second to that okay now now goad I mean do we really need to amend
and and to add um in compliance with over meetings law near the education laws we really need to say that like supposely state that we are bound by New York state law we are bound by New York state law regardless of whether we say it or not um I think this is just silly you know I I will say you know we've had
a couple of meetings where one second we've had a couple of meetings where we were at we were at 9:55 and I tried to adjourn the meeting and people objected we had to be out here at 10: let's be honest I don't have a choice we don't have a choice we have to be at it here of a certain time and
certain council members Tred to obstruct that and that was first of all that's disrespectful to the custodial staff who have to clean up and close out and leave and security staff so unfortunately I think that the Sur especially the first sentence it's it's just unfortunate leave it uh second sentence you second
sentence I can take it or leave it you can vot it down minut so go ahead yeah um since you mentioned the second one I was G to ask a technical question in that we're voting on these proposed
revisions and what if you know there are some of us who may be willing to make one Amendment and not the other so how are you goingon to separate the when you when you vote you say one or the other got you that's all let's let's be clear why um this
Council wants to prioritize the order of speakers and why it wants to limit public speaking why it thinks it's up against this hard deadline I think I think I suspect and people could correct me if I'm wrong that it has something to do with resolution 248
I mean it's it's clear that this bylaws amendment is here because some people in this Council think there are too many you know trans people and too many parents of trans kids speaking in our meetings that's what it is that's absolutely ridiculous it's ridiculous because guess what I actually
listen to what you had to say I might not agree with you but I listen and I heard you I heard you listen I was respectful I looked at everybody I heard what you said and you may we may disagree we may honestly disagree I appreciate your advocacy and everything
but we gave everyone an opportunity to speak okay and you will have a second speaking session tonight as well but so I don't want to be told or insinuated that we're not giving members of the public an opportunity to speak because that's not true because you've been here
and I appreciate it and again it's long yeah I agree it's a pain but with what we're trying to do is just to make sure that we have the discretion again that the chair has the discretion and they could call for a vote if they want but just to make sure we have discretion to to kind of you know make sure we can get
out of here on time that's it but to insinuate that we don't want to hear from you or that we haven't given you an opportunity to be heard that's not true because I see your sence I heard you tonight all right I might not agree with you but I was listening to youw
okay I I'll amend my comment to correct myself I me um Len Len is willing to listen to you tonight he's just not willing to listen to you in April [Applause] May well I've been here I've been at every meeting okay I can't talk about
other folks I've been to every meeting and I stay at the end okay now and I've been willing to sit down with people last after last meeting I was here for I was here till 11 o' not 10 o' I was here at 11 o' speaking to people on the
street about this I this is not me not wanting to speak I have consistently consistently thank you we have consistently uh listened to you we may disagree but we have consistently listened this Council has consistently
listened I would V and so we're doing a vote on the proposed amendment so I I don't remember the end of the first sentence for the purpose of managing time second sentence in compliance with New York State open readings law and education
law this is just on that Amendment um so vote Yes if your approval or no if you oppose or obain pre Allison Daniela is not here
Gavin Charles uh didn't separate so okay M yes Sol is not here Jessica Sarah is not
here Sabina is not here I say yes great two three four five motion to not pass uh it's either five and a half six but it doesn't two any further discussion on the uh
Amendment itself okay let's take it to a vote okay so this is a motion to approve the proposed bylaw revisions as um sent
to the C okay so three Allison yes Daniela is not here Gavin Charles yes mud yes Sol is not here
Jessica Sarah is not here Sabina is not here Leonard yes Craig yes one two three four five six a motion does not pass Six to Zer six to two our student members thank you so next on the agenda
is the discussion of resolutions we'll start off with resolution 268 resolution calling on the mute I miss something oh sorry I apologize sorry sorry it was yeah sorry are there any other committees I apologize mon are there any other
committees that wish to uh committee chairs want to discuss on your commit yeah what now um I wanted to on behalf of Alon and myself given an academic Affairs committee update we held two meetings um earlier this year in January and
February um and very briefly on both um in January we had District 2 parents and other parents other uh individuals with expertise to offer um on the subject of gender identity in curriculum and had a
uh a very good discussion and I will point out that one of the reasons we did that is because of the folks here because folks come to discuss that topic so um extensively and we thought that it would be helpful to have a session um in
an organization where we could exclusively talk about that subject because folks ask for that conversation all the time I don't know if Shannon is still here but there you are um I want to thank Shannon for showing up and for engaging in that conversation I'm happy
to talk about that the entire Shannon I'm giving the committee update right now so I'm going to do that I'm going to continue to give my committee update um I called me by name you speak you called me by name I did I said thank you um it wasn't it was just a comment about the
fact that some folks um came and participated and some folks um did not uh the primary reason I did that was because um kind of like you most of the time was because what the academic Affairs committee was founded to do was
to talk about the academic strengths of our district and how to improve them our February meeting was focused on um what Allison and I have been working on for uh really this entire term which is how to improve math instruction in our
district and I wanted to share particularly with parents who may be watching at home or anyone who decides to watch this afterwards that we had um actually last calendar year um a professor from the California uh
University system who has worked on really looking at tracking within math as a way to um help cater math instructions to different groups of kids who are ready for different instructions at different times in February of this year our academic Affairs committee
meeting had two speakers um one of whom is a District 20 parent where they have looked looked at how to bring um algebra and geometry into middle schools and one of whom is the former math teacher at lab Middle School who instituted The Accelerated math program at lab middle
school which I have always found to be a particularly excellent District 2 program because if you know anything about the way that school has worked historically in District 2 it is one of our schools that has had um really uh you know the socioeconomic makeup of
that school has been um lower than many of the other uh District 2 uh middle schools but it was the school that sent the highest portion of students to specialized high schools it is a school that prioritized accelerated math for their seventh and
eighth grade students did an excellent job doing it did it through a screen program and really made available to public school students who don't have options for expensive acceleration outside of school the ability to get that good math instruction we are Keen
to help introduce similar programs like that to more middle schools and even in the fourth and fifth grade and elementary schools in the district we have sent out many invitations to parents and had a really lovely robust response to have it a detailed
conversation about how to um potentially do pilot programs of this and we spoke at the very beginning of this term when the academic Affairs committee was founded about doing that uh with superintendent and Deputy Su the the superintendent Deputy superintendent and
Alison and I are grateful for that uh conversation early in the uh year and we would like very much uh to resume that conversation especially now that we have talked to so many parents who are Keen to bring um that potential option into the school um I'll say one more thing
about that which is we have heard from many from the superintendent and from folks here about and we are always here historically I've been on the CC since 2017 we always hear about funding and about expensive programs the thing about
separating children by some ability so that we can meet their needs more um fully in terms of uh assessing where they are and developing programs that meet their needs where they are is that it is an incredibly lowcost proposal right making sure that kids who are
ready for an above grade level math program versus the kids who are on grade level or the kids who are struggling to master grade level making sure that you group them together um is a way to um with without particularly you know increasing costs of giving better
instruction for the kids who need it and the other thing that's come up again and again in this conversation is that so many district 2 parents are spending a tremendous amount of money to get outside math instruction for their students and um not only is that cost
prohibitive and inequitable because some families can afford it and some can't it also takes away from the time when kids are not should be learning that stuff in school and when they're outside of school those should be time for sports for family for friends for activities that they shouldn't have to learn math again after school when they've had a math class that isn't meeting their
needs in school um so we are Keen to resume this conversation this particular C term took all sorts of um Pathways that I wasn't anticipating at the start of the term but one thing that has been
cons consistent is that um we hear from parents all the time about the desire and the need to change to improve that accelerated math instruction so I will wrap it up by saying particularly for the parents watching at home Allison and I our
ccd2 email addresses are on the website we have heard from many parents who are very interested in hearing from more parents uh so that we can talk about how to implement some of the pilot programs that we've begun to discuss and we look forward to having that conversation with District parents who are actually
interested in improving the academics of our kids school thank you thank you the next so the next uh item on the agenda I'd like to get you I'd like to get to the next public speaker session so the quicker we do it the
quicker you can't you can't we can't do that can't we can't do that unfortunately Okay so uh but I encourage you to sign up for the second speaker session I sign my okay so the first uh the next item on the agenda is the uh discussion of resolutions we're going to start off
with resolution 268 resolution calling on New York City on the New York City Department of Education to standardize grading rubrics across schools does anybody wish to speak is there any discussion on the resolution on the motion sorry on the motion to to
table take it to a vote pre Alison yes Danel is not here Gavin no Charles yes M yes so is not here Jessica Sarah is not here Saina is not
here I say yes and Craig yes motion fails 6 to two not pass MERS so does anybody wish to speak on this resolution so I'm not going to go through too much of what I said last at
the last month's meeting I will give you a real world example of this of the effects of having different schools and different grading and the perception of different grading at different schools in our district so grades are used for admissions purposes so whe you're going
from elementary school to um to Junior High School if you're going from Junior High School to a um a high school graes do matter uh and I not in a fa Lottery situation but they do matter and I will say that um I have seeing parents that
unfortunately have decided to send their children to particular schools because they think that's going to be easier and even though they are convinced that this is not as good a school or this school may not have as rigorous uh a curriculum or it may be further away or for
whatever other reasons they can think of but they are willing to send their children there because they think it would give them one leg up kind of gaming the system because they think they that this school has reputation being easier grading so they may not get the greatest let's say middle school education but they'll have an advantage
for high school admissions I think that's wrong I agree with the student representative that spoke last time and talked about well this isn't and I think G maybe mentioned this isn't an easy thing to do but I think we should try I don't think it hurts to try to kind of
standardize uh grading so at least parents don't have to sit and say to themselves I'm going to gain the system by sending my child to this middle school as opposed to that middle school because the grading system is easier I don't think that's the way to do it and parents shouldn't be put in that
situation it's so absurd and I don't think that and that's why I think we should try to have more um uniform um gring throughout the district I mean this is this is the thing about this Council I I kind of joke when I joined the council that it's not the Community Education Council it's
the community admissions Council the community screening Council because you know how what percentage of our high school students in New York City Public Schools attend a school that screens for grades it's 15% off across the system
only 15% like we are going out of our way to change everything grading put in a rubric for 80,000 teachers for 950,000 students in 1800 schools for 15% like I don't really understand does this is
this adding to our pedagogy is this adding anything our kids learning more because this no and I mean this the same thing this is in the same thing as as this weird math path thing like this math path is a screening we the committee never has talked about
academics it's talked about the gender ideology and then it's talked about how to keep you know some kids in a math class and keep other kids out of that math class and that's not a strategy for educating our students that's a strategy for segregating for separating our
students yeah I was just going to say after reading it and then the conversations you had with the superintendent talking about Gavin talked about how difficult it may be um you may want to um I don't adjust or add to it maybe this is a big leak before
you get to the point of standardizing maybe it should be um a focus on transparency so kind of knowing what the grading is even if it's not standardized um just to get an understanding of how they are grading
whatever the different um coursework that they're doing since there's so many different types and as the superintendent said uh the teachers get some autonomy it's going to be really hard to do but you should be able to clearly State what it is that you're teaching and how you're coming up with
the grading system for what you're using so that's what I think what uh the comments tonight both from Gavin and from the superintendent really LED back to is the fact that this is um a Herculean task that may be nearly impossible and that
we already have something that is standardized as a way to uh decide who may be eligible for certain admission standards and that's called the ELA and math State tests and um I think the next
step from a resolution like this is to say let's reintroduce those State tests as part of the decisionmaking process for admissions both for middle school and for high school the only thing I would say Gavin is um may very well I don't have the
numbers in front of me so I'll take you with your word the 15% 15% of I know is that is that in the city of New York um but I will tell you that we do have fortunately and this is in no small part due to the fact that we have a great Administration here we have wonderful
teachers we have great schools in our district but District 2 really does very well compared to other districts in New York City and because of that I am sure that the number of 15% uh is is actually a higher percent I don't have the numbers I'm just going to
speculate I do believe that if we were looking at students from District 2 who are applying to schools that we grading is um uh part of the admissions process is a lot higher than 15% I I'll back that up maybe at the next meeting but I will tell you that we are fortunate that
we do have um kids in our district you want to give them you know the the best opportunities that we can whether it's 15% whether it's 30% whether it's 45% uh I think it's important that um that we do what we can for uh for for
everyone including those 45% or whatever it is any other comments I mean you know like let's let's not talk I think we should be very plain when we talk about these things is that you know when when there was a gifted and talented um test the old
something or other like a standardized test given to four-year-olds to enter into gift an inal programs something like 50% of students in District 2 who took the test qualified for a seat it's not because 50% of the students in District 2 are gifted and talented or
they're just that much smarter than gets at District eight or district 10 or District 13 or whatever you know let's just be really Frank about like what these tests are testing um I also want to say that is if you want consistency if you want transparency there are really some kind of like foundational
tools that our schools are that people are trying to get our schools to do that what is what is lower class size you know as as we look to the the class size law we try to to implement lower class sizes whether it's 10 or 25 students depending on the grade level which is
which is a huge improvement from you know 32 or more students in classrooms now um this is part of what will give our teachers the ability to you know and our kids are not widgets they have different needs and and you know different strengths and we have to like
teach to our students not to a rubric because you know the rubric doesn't learn the kids Lear and so I think we should really be putting our efforts behind um you know making sure that our schools comply with the class law I think that would be the most important thing we can
do any other comments okay uh we're going to go to the next resolution 269 uh resolution to affirm cdc2 support of nycps guidelines to support transgender and gender expensive
students in res resolution 248 open [Applause] why did you why are you allied with that um okay so why do you we are down
now we're now down to six okay we are now okay we are now down to six what were you guys talking about earlier behind that fer we are now down to six I couldn't
read your lips we are now down to six we do not have a [Applause] [Music] [Applause] you let
this so you let iten again again again okay I I have a procedural question we we actually we we had a vote about tabling a resolution 268 the did not pass so we did not table it so by virtue
of those two you know leading I guess are you know are they trying to hold over the the resolution to the next next meetings if you don't have for it seem really like an end run around of that I I I can tell I can tell you that I I don't know you would have to ask them I
not so the question is so so so we do not have Okay so do we not have we do not have Forum there's no point in we will not vote on resolutions tonight we can't we can't approve we
can't look at minutes we can't approve the minutes the last two meetings um we can have okay okay we can have a sec we will have a second public we will have a second public speaker session I think everybody
is here we have people who will sign up so we will allow that and we'll do that now vict I can have the can we amend the minutes to make these unexcused abces or is that I'd like to ask represent face what
constitutes attendance at a meeting if if a person walks in and 5 minutes later walks out is that attendance or is there is there anything in the Chancellor's regulations that you can point to that judges Jesse I'll gu to you okay we're gonna let Jesse from
space address the council please thank you everybody thank you council members I think the question is and I'm not speaking about specifically this this incident here um is that there have been moments where a council member for instance um if there is a situation
with their child or if they need to leave no no I'm not what I'm not I'm not speaking specifically about this situation everyone I'm not I'm not what what what I'm what I'm saying Gavin's asking me a question council member he is asking me a question about
circumstances where that is like allowable there have been circumstances where that's been allowable based on what what the um um um what the in a sense the situation is with a particular Council so if you're asking me you know
have there been circumstances where someone leaves a meeting but they're still counted as being in attendance because they were here for a majority of the meeting and then there is an emergency that occurs and then they're they're asked to I'm not talking about once again everyone I'm not I'm not making it specifically about about this
situation I think it's I think this is a conversation that the council needs to have you know about specific specific reason but but to uh to Mr heale to council member Healey's point they're having situations where that has happened I'm not I think that we'd have to talk about the specific circumstances
of this situ hope that I think there there there right and I think that's a ation for for the council there have been situations where someone is here for a limited amount of the meeting and the council's like we're
not excusing that um and it's it's declared as unexcused uh absence but it really but it really requires discussion about correct it would be a conversation that the council would have to have
about they're all looking out for each other so how do we hold them accountable Craig why did they leave why did Alison and I don't know okay okay I I just want to say this so first of all um I had no idea that
the two members were going to leave I just wanted to just let you know that wa I just want to say to the to the extent there is a conspiracy I'm not part of it what I will tell you is unfortunately the effect we all know the effect is
that we don't have a war so I I I I I hear what you're saying I I I hear it U if you want if you want to speak if be heard on that please sign up for the second public speaking session and your comments will be recorded that's all I can say you
know you heard from the face representative that unfortunately that's the way it works and quite frankly it's not just it's not just that three members are not here there's other members that aren't here either so as a as a majority if other people were here we we might we might still have a COR
but I I so all I'm saying is unfortunately this is the reality I I don't I don't agree with it I I I have no I don't know why people left I can assume why people left I mean you know but the reality is this is the effect of of them leaving so I think we
just need to move on please if you have if you want to speak sign up with the second public [Music] all right so this we're starting the second session you're gonna be timing
right so Amy Neil mod oh crap um yeah actually I wasn't gonna speak again but then she um please don't take that out of my time um you run the most
dysfunctional C in the city of New York and I used to be in C 14 in that District so I speak from experience but you should be very proud of what you you have created here because you won't back down you have put transphobia above
democracy and above accountability so congratulations I wanted to speak about the curriculum meeting that Ma and Allison sponsored which you have a limited number of curriculum meetings you can have in any given year and they chose to have the conversation by flying someone in from
Kansas and I I can't remember what other states they brought people in from to talk about getting all gender ideology out of New York City public school curriculums they did not talk about any existing
curriculum they didn't talk about Ela they didn't talk about mathematics they didn't talk about social emotional they didn't talk about anything that our students actually do they told story after Story including I hope you know this one of the speakers explained in detail how she can't
orgasm and that was a curriculum meeting for your CC this does nothing to improve the education of the children in this city and I think you should be embarrassed to hold to carry water for these people
it's awful I think that our students deserve something so much better from this whether they're CIS or trans they deserve council members who are going to actually talk about teaching to the student not teaching to the test and I feel like I'm in a time machine I opted
my kid out of state test 10 years ago and I was very happy to be part of a movement that was that brought us class-size caps and dellink test scores from teacher evaluation
Place NYC wants to turn back the clock on every one of those reforms every one of those Student First reforms and they need to be voted out not just in cc2 but across the city hi everybody oops well that's
really loud Co um I was going to get up here and say that I'm a seventh grade our teacher and was going to talk about accelerated math and thank you thank you um and ask actually as a data head for a copy of Mod's report and do we
know where we could get that the report that mod referenced earlier comparing grades and TBS cool thank you um and talk about the ways that when it's decided by by student by B I can't talk tonight talked about the way it's decided when it's decided by testing it's basically
designed as a way to segregate classes designed as a way to segregate schools and I don't know if anybody caught it they were saying that they were encouraging accelerated education as a way to as a cheap way to make classes better for people who need it which is a
pretty good euphemism for let's make classes for white kids um that yeah but they left so I don't like to talk about that instead I prefer to talk to face and I'm curious correct me I'm wrong but my understanding is that ph's job is interface between parents and schools
and that managing cc's is part of your job and it's while you're running the elections is that correct cool um and so my question then is what accountabilities to the the councils to have toward you and again as a teacher like taking attendance matters again if we're talking about data and
its importance how often you show up matters how long you stay during the meeting and whether don't you stay for the vote matters and so I was wondering if we could go back to Gavin's question and get more of a response then just here's a hypothetical not about this
[Music] account I thank [Music] you and I appreciate that it's not that I want to talk about hypotheticals it's it's the fact that the matter is is that to to to your
point is that we need to get more detail as to the specifics of what happen right and the only reason I gave no understood but but the the reason that I was i i g I was using a hypothetical to council
member he's question was that and mind you I'm not I don't know the reasons why the council members left understood everyone refused to do his job to listen the the uh the question was with respect
to to account so we need to get the details we need to understand the reasons and that's where determinations could be made as to the question was whether this would account for you know a excuse or non- excuse and
and that's I'm sorry I didn't mean to interrupt um and I'll definitely uh turn over to you but that's the reason why I am speaking in hypotheticals because that's information that I don't have right now so respectfully that's why I
gave that response to council member Healey as as a example and I think what you know due to the questions and and the concerns that were raised that's more information that needs to be
had my followup would be um in all the change meeting they're not hypotheticals anymore so was that is that an acceptable approach change years ago that have already been approved by the council in in the conversation the
council does have the authority to do that in the conversation though that was happening uh uh earlier today there are very specifics like I receive this information I receive this email I believe President slutkin was
referencing the information so that's the level into your question that's the level of accountability in the sense that face would have so someone says something that's one thing someone produces a doc and said no I actually received this on this date here it is
that's the accountability so From perspective changing all pror minutes ago accept if they have the documentation that they have and it's there if someone said to them I am calling out you know on this date
emailed within the respective time that was stated yes it is but they have to have the information but I I appreciate it I'm sorry I don't want to take time but I appreciate the [Music] question thank you so next we have Tara
Lewis And Then followed by Jo hello uh my name is Tara Lewis I'm I'm I'm just I'm a mother in District Two and sixy old um and I came here to listen I came
here I've heard that there's a lot going on at these meetings I wanted to come I wanted to listen I wanted to hear what everybody had to say uh really before I said anything and I've done so um and it seems pretty clear to me that couple of
a couple of things really stand out uh one is that the Chancellor's mandate is pretty clear right uh a said that we are supposed to be staying with the inclusion curriculum
the inclusion in New York City Schools that's what we have been doing that's what we're supposed to be doing uh and I think that it's a very slippery slope when you start to exclude people I'm not an activist I'm not I'm not standing up for anyone particular group but as soon as you
start to other groups you open the door for that and you will start to other other groups that's what happens pretty quickly and I think we're seeing that because you know what Dei actually is everyone every single person in this
room or can be Dei because you know what you break your leg it gets cut off cuz you're a soldier and you went into war and you become Dei my son has an IEP he is Dei they might say he can't play on a sports team and I am not comfortable
with that I don't care if you're uncomfortable with trans people you can be uncomfortable with trans people you don't have to hang out with them you don't have to sleep with them you don't have to like them you can you can turn away from them if you like that is absolutely fine but we cannot exclude
any group of people in our public schools and to do so is frankly it's it's it it look it's a very bad look um and in in and in our current situation in our country it is even more important than it was a year ago to stand up and
if you can't stand up now then you can't stand up later when it's your kid because it will be because your kid had an accident maybe they hit their head and they have a brain and you know what they're Dei or they're black because black is
Dei it is so and I am because I'm a woman and I'm Dei too and we need to stick up for each other and not let this kind of stuff get in the way of democracy because that's what we've been allowing to happen in our country we have been
losing our democracy because of stupid stuff like this and it is not a good fight it's not a good fight it's not a good Hill to die on guys do you hear me such a waste of time um yep that's that no um there are I'm
actually not even well g go back to but um yeah all the nonsense that was being Char bu on [Music] wait I guess I'm too loud I've been told that before I can sorry I'm not whole time
yeah the idea of tracking because it's cheap like L was saying um just because it's cheap do mean we should be doing it right segregation is also I guess like cheap but right she saying all these tests and whatever um the lab Middle School actually does have smaller class sizes because they have several mess classrooms so to a Cavin point there are
reasons why even with their low sces oh the poor people and some of who are color yeah because they have a n program those students tend to test really well particularly in math programs so there's like all these kind of things that she's completely leaving out and again maybe not a DAT ahead but um sometimes I am also SE sced to solve almost all these
problems but anyway um Universal Design for learning is also a component of the Ness program which again helps these students learn math and it has nothing to do with tracking it's the exact opposite of that it gives Learners autonomy uh what it's teaching our students is that some kids are throwaway kids and some kids are not to borrow
from car ch right so who's the they awaken and who's not um yeah and in the case of the previous example the the idea protects disabled kids and therefore that's fine and great and currently yeah we have a responsibility and a choice to actually stay on the right side I was also at that January
meeting it was completely faka and uh it was yeah the whole panel was all folks who were like anti-trans it made no sense as an educator as someone who like literally has a postmaster certificate and like gay stuff um it was horrific um that's not the official TI uh as for
excuse absence not excuse as yeah if there's some magical thing going around every third Wednesday that like around whatever freaking time 9 o'l kids are falling down like I would see that sci-fi movie but that's not what's happening and I don't believe these are uh absences it is a waste of everyone's
time and also all issues are trans issues right you all talked about absentees and you talk about test SCS guess who's yeah um those are also all transition all issues are also issues about race and gender next folks I'm just a simple City parent of a
D2 middle schooler and if there is a single trans kid in the same grade and there might be they have about 300 grades so they might have a few I would want them to have the same support and opportunities to play make
friends and Thrive that our own child has pass 269 R 248 let them play as who they are thank you Holo followed by McKenna Santiago and wkk hi yeah I'm back um I I'll be really
brief like I said last month I'm a former member of a cc I 100% feel for all of you I know how hard this job is I know you would rather be home being with your own kids but you all are here you're here and you're being abandoned by your colleagues and you have a right
in your bylaws to vote them out to say we all agreed to these rules and we are showing up for them role is taken before a vote that is because when you are absent for a vote it counts as an absence and if you do not account for
that absence it should be unexcused you have rules in your bylaws you are obligated up to yourselves to follow them because you're all giving up your time you're here let them like let the lack of respect for all of you not stand y'all
are showing up y'all are doing your jobs they're not they have disrespect for you and tell them that's not cool thanks hi um I'm gonna be really quick I just wanted to say um I started coming to these meetings because I heard the C
was trying to exclude trans kids from Sports um and I want to having been here now I can see you guys have a lot of other problems as well with the board um and I know uh L and Craig um you guys keep mentioning like look we're
here we're listening and I just wonder why you're siding with Mod when she's preventing you from getting your work done she's leaving every time encouraging others to leave preventing any votes from going through I know you guys are here I know you're here late I
know you all have kids um and I know you'd rather be with them so I don't understand why you're allowing her agenda to derail these meetings when there are parents on this board who are working really hard and there's a huge Community here that wants to see the
work done um your work can be recognized uh if you'll just stop letting her you know get in your [Music] way a lot of this will Echo the previous two speakers but there it is particularly to the two
gentlemen in the middle I've watched you pay special attention I've heard you give the respect that all of us have asked for to each and every one of us they're not giving it to us they're certainly not giving it to you I mentioned before that I'm a debate coach I'm going to nerd out for like 15
seconds in high school Congressional [Music] debate and in high school Congressional debate there is an adult at the front of the room called the parliamentarian that adult's job is to know the goddamn rules I don't know if this gentleman is
your a parliamentarian I don't know if the president is the parliamentarian but what I do know is that you are allowing ideologues regardless of their position on the ideological Spectrum to run you dry run all of us dry month after month
y'all seem all right I don't know you but at the end of the day that isn't whatever their opinion on issues is put them on the record let this fine gentleman do his job or do your damn job but someone has to do it they're not
going to so please just do the job um still Michael L Jesse good see you we used to work together um I don't understand what's happening no no I just I really don't understand um and my child and his
friends and all of our children don't have time to play games I don't understand what's happening um to the point about rubrics you haven't said anything about how
standardized rubrics would help students it's all been about competition and about admissions um so I going back to what I what I said before about what's the purpose of
Education what's the purpose of Education um it's either to further concentrate power and wealth or to resist the concentration of power and wealth the standardization of
rubrics is not resisting the concentration of power and wealth it's not for the benefit of students it's about access and restricting access furthering access uh for those who
already have have that so I don't see that helping us our children and I don't see how leaving in the middle of a meeting or not showing up to a meeting helps our [Music] children followed by G be really brief this time and Craig
I'm going to speak to you about something you said earlier um somehow when you're talking about public speaking at these meetings we talked about us speaking about human rights as being somehow disrespectful to the custodians um so I think that there's
nothing more disrespectful than to make them set up this whole room do all the sweeping do all the garbage and then leave before this [Music] vote you publicly rebuked us for being disrespectful at the next meeting will you publicly rebuke them for being
disrespectful by leaving so I already spoke in the first session and I supported mod Marin's resolution 248 and I opposed any attempt to deplete it or minimize it currently it's up to 269 and whatever other permutation the
opposition takes I will also oppose that as usual a lot is going on disrespectfully behind the scenes and they try the trans Mafia [Applause] tries tries to go me signing up but I
always sign up for the first and second sessions biology is not big Tre and I'm glad that superintendent Maguire brought up math because simple math dictates that 1 plus 1 equals 2 and 1+ 0 equals 1
so when the trans Mafia tries to co-op math by using the pronoun they to Mean One Singular person it is completely incorrect that is what infants understand when their minds aren't messed with they like to come here and
love bomb each other that is one of the groomers 101 prerogatives is to lump bomb each other and they're proud of that um this is women's month March 2025 and by women I'm talking about
biological women I don't like having to make sure that's understood but I know the crowd I am dealing with so this is women's history month and to mark that I would like to tell you all that it is the epitome of sexism to deny the
separate existence of the female sex that excludes male biology this is the face of the new misogyny there is already an executive order a federal executive order that
supers supersedes state law that dictates biological males cannot compete in girl Sports so there's already the federal law and you will lose billions billions if you do not it's
already an executive order and you will lose billions and as I've mentioned in my previous appearances here the Big Money Maker is the pharmaceutical medical industry that gets to have $1 million for each of these kids that go the
medical marry go round and fizer fizer pharmaceuticals is giving money to the Board of [Music] Ed are the official are weig are we using theist that are not official yeah they're here the other
list I went over the two official list so these are the second session to list yeah session list um the list that you have made up that I'm going to go over now right no was on the official list for
second on the first time right maybe you signed up for the first I have both of second list here and I had feel free to look at it this is the official two second we're
not um no no that's not me I'm there's another paper here yep yep please have a seat yeah got it got it sorry got it Annabelle
Rio I on thater so I don't know how you got the first person that paper but not me no this is am we went over no no on the paper Okay so is this Annabelle yeah I'm
Annabelle um so I had this whole thing written up about Hope and how hopefully you guys would pass 269 and 270 um but instead I'm going to talk about the fact that well my under in undergrad I studied chemical engineering and if I went to the field that you know that
field traditionally goes into I'd be working on a chemic chemical plant and if I just got and left in the middle of my job when like a reactor melts down um something that could happen would be people dying like plants blowing up spreading chemicals all over the place
causing cancer and whatnot um I know plenty people here work jobs where similar things if not necessar SAR magnitude but bad things would happen if they left if I left my current job um one things that could happen if something goes wrong is the global market
crashes so it's like really so leard we're not mad at you great we're not mad at you we're mad at the people who are getting up and leaving people who are denying you the power to do anything
we're mad people are cucking you hi councel I'll keep it to a tight minute yall know I'd like to go quick um first of all I wanted to object to Mod's narrative that the academic Affairs meeting was a discussion it was in fact a panel of transphobic activists and I
was there when I tried to engage in a discussion during the fa the the scheduled Q&A uh I was still not to participate I was still to keep my question to one sentence uh it was not a discussion by any terms I would recognize and believe me I know one because I love meeting with the opposition that's one of my things that
said the cc2 president C Spin and members of the ccd2 council in accordance with the Freedom of Information Act I'm here by requesting records of the following absence excuses including reasons for leaving early for council member m Marin from dates March
1st 2024 to March 19th 2025 absence excuses including reasons for leaving early for council member Allison Boer from dates March 1st 2024 to March 19th 2025 and abs excuses including reasons for leaving early for council member Charles love from dates March 1st 2024
to March 19 2025 a copy of that request is being sent by email to you um to you sir and to the superintendent uh yeah okay I will also make sure okay I'm also going to make I
forward it there I am going to be filing a for request on that okay thank you also going to be subit this handwritten letter yeah yeah yeah no I appreciate you don't have next we have
Hannah followed by um I had a really nice speech about empathy but um Hannah pronouns are they them I'm a born and raised New Yorker I attend District Two schools I have my ps11 shirt on but from the 90s but it's
too cold I went to lab and Mod's gone but I wanted to talk about lab and the accelerated math curriculum because don't get me wrong I got a great education there however lab uh is an extremely resourced school um it's
pretty small I mean things have probably changed it's been like a decade since I was there but my grade was like a hundred kids um and honestly sometimes the rigor of the school was detrimental to students like it affected our mental health people were stressed all the time
so when parents are thinking about testing and what it means to excel is it something you want or is it the best for the students and for your children um and I guess I want to go back to a memory of when I started coming to these
meetings at honoring the anniversary of transformative schools um our one year um I showed up outside of Clinton to a group dressed in white there was pizza there were incredible trans children who Mod's bigotry made Cry which is messed up um
Megan was actually the first person I talked to and it was super memorable um and when I asked how I could help they put me to the task of handing out flyers about what was happening in D2 and so I was learning and being helpful which speaks a lot to how transformative
schools welcome to in um there's so many of us so take the opportunity to learn from us we show up every month we stick around even though we don't want to we have lots of questions and sometimes we yell because there isn't enough opportunity to hear
from us even though we have thoughts and feelings that are motivated by care and you're trying to cut down on our public speaking time but we deserve to be heard and all I'll say is people keep coming to join us we keep getting bigger we're going to outgrow these cafeterias and these Auditorium
and so to have to say and looken to a lot more people because we have a lot to [Music] say hello GL you mentioned last month there was no nefarious intentions in resolution 268 to support higher
standards for testing into specialized high schools I think you genuinely believe that however you are coming from a place of PR privilege when you say this it negates three basic truths one despite living in a liberal City if we
can still call it that uh given uh when fascists on this board are trying to turn New York into Florida uh New York City the school system still continues to be one of the most segregated in the country number two some PT raise 5K or less per year
while other PT have a budget of half a million dollars or more to spend on things like catered parties and fancy trips while other schools are hosting potlucks some of these same parents who want strong testing are the same parents
that use their privilege and resources with a zero some mindsets to gain the system to their advantage including specialized tutors to get their kids into gifted and talented classes sometimes testing multiple times to get in that's not even mentioning the
tutoring that a families can afford for testing into these specialized high schools I had a learning disability as a kid I had a very hard time learning how to read so much so that it left me feeling wholly inadequate when I was into early
adulthood my parents couldn't afford specialized tutors so I was left with what this public school could offer which was inadequate by itself so I have an acute knowledge of what it is what it feels like to to have no resources for this sort of stuff I invite you to think
about this when you talk about wanting to standardize testing while not acknowledging the bare real barriers that students face due to inequitable resources their parents Guardians schools ptas and communities have there is so much talent that we are not tapping into in this city because
people like mod and place also know as also known as pedaling lies and coddling extremists are hoarding power and resources to the benefit of those who need it least I would remind you that you are an elected body meant to represent all students in in this District not just a
few thank you hi my name is Kristen Clifford I am here again I am the proud parent of trans kid in District 2 there they are okay I want you really I want you to
look at my child okay this is Chip okay and then my other child is an adult now and that's Felicity she's a transom who just modeled for Balenciaga [Music] okay okay what I really want to say is
why why aren't you able to say that you're making a that you made a mistake like I make mistakes mes all the time we all make mistakes and it's our job to say I made a mistake so if you made a mistake to say okay I thought we were just like questioning this rule but
actually it's a little more nefarious than that you can say I made a mistake and you can stop abstaining and you can just vote to resend to 48
really goodness I'm showing you pictures of my children because I don't want to be here again talking about their mental health why do I have to come here again and try to convince you that our children are human enough to have rights
and that to have a law on the books that questions their rights to exist is damaging that that's that it is damaging and no one is questioning my right to exist my rights may be taken
away but no one is questioning my right to exist no one is questioning your right to exist I don't know what it's like to be trams and I'm never going to know and it doesn't matter I can know what's good for people and I can know what's good for kids
thank you candra left next is Jay SoDo followed by eie and then Michael well Michael already and then [Music] MJ good
evening my name is Jay and I'm a 45y old proud trans man and I was a trans kid once tonight I'd like to speak about quiet exclusion you see when I came out my
five older siblings chose to stop speaking to me my girl religious household they stopped speaking to me for 20 years now I don't bring this up to highlight the length or the severity but
how quiet my family's reaction was there was no slamming doors there was no yelling it took until I was well into my 30s to understand what had
happened I thought about it a lot I had been shunned later when my later when my siblings and I finally reconnected when I was grown when I was a grown adult living my own life happy
thousands of miles away the guilt and hurt in my sister's eyes was almost unbearable she said again and again through her tears sobbing 20 years is too long 20 years is too
long now you may not think that this personal story relates to resolution 248 but it does because when we quietly create tools for exclusion and we do not let young people be who they really are and we feel and feel like they belong
and we judge them and we discriminate against them whether loudly or quietly in our families or in our schools and we don't love them or support them we create create a world of hurt for them but also for
you please resend 248 and stop this nonsense back as a teacher this time uh I just wanted to plug some really informative writing for anyone who is genuinely interested about trans history medicine and trans life generally was actually
kind of nice because I can steal man you on to the good faith people that are maybe left um so get out your notebooks uh and the excuses end tonight uh first I would like to plug the wonderfully eloquent historian Jules
Gil Peterson she specializes in transgender history and her work focuses on how science medicine and race inform transgender embodiment she has written two important books including the very relevant here uh histories of the
transgender child a book that shatters the myth that trans children are new uncovering a history where transgender children not only existed but pre-existed the the term transgender and its predecessors her other book a short history of trans misogyny is
particularly accessible as an audio book and sheds light on the historical and ongoing animous against trans feminized people uh Peterson has been on many podcasts to discuss her work and this is a great place to start for anyone interested those podcasts include
outward gender reveal Red Medicine Novara FM the Dig queer lit the feminist present and death panel where she's a co-host uh I'd also recommend Susan Striker's seminal book transgender history the roots of
today's Revolution for a good primer on what the transgender Mafia has been up to for the better part of the last 100 years spoiler alert we've been fighting for the same damn things we are now lastly for a truly moving personal and in-depth account of what a transs
life from preum to the literal deathbed uh check out we both laugh and pleasure the selected Diaries of L Sullivan thank you if anyone needs these repeated please come me hello um my name is MJ and I wanted
to speak because my family has firsthand experience of what it can look like when schools actually Implement anti-trans policies my mom was a teacher at a private Christian School for over 35 years and I was sent to that same small school from kindergarten through high school she struggled when she realized I
was trans we had a lot of hard conversations but at the end of the day her faith was not incompatible with her being a loving mother of a trans child however she was told by the school that despite the fact that I was a known and respected member of the community she
was not allowed to ever mention me again but she was allowed to mention being a mother to my sister and brother then even when my mom followed their rules to not speak about me on campus in order to still support her students they later came back and said that she had to sign an anti-trans space
statement as part of her contract or would not be renewed she refused so the school lost the Beloved teacher with Decades of experience and community and Community knowledge because she would not denounce her trans child the hate that me and my
mom faced were always couching excuses that it was just a hypothetical so other parents wouldn't feel uncomfortable that it was too complicated of an issue so they're just being cautious or that the school board just had questions these right-wing Christian Schools were the test ground for anti-tr
policies it was at schools like mine where these policies were honed into the very hate that is now being pushed by this board in resolation 248 please listen to this warning and weend these policies will escalate and will only harm all students thank
you Henry by a hello my name is hry Grace I'm I'm a student at serson high school which is I'm M of my high school GSA I'm currently doing my Japanese
homewhere it's late and I a lot of work um I'm very lucky it's time since have a very supporting Community for Trans and career youth we recently celebrated the reopening of one our G bathrooms um unfortunately I was not so lucky in my middle school you know I had very close friends they very supporting of trans
and queer youth Middle School is more broadly and then have open discussions and rainbows everywhere like my school does and I understand the impact of not having like open visibility and acceptance of trans youth on mental health and trans
students so I ask you please your standardization resolution thank you there's a lot of augusts I had to make sure that they were talking about me I have messed up on that multiple times already
um I'm gonna this is a difficult hi everyone G to talk to this side hi everyone I'm Auggie the cheerful loud transgender in the back with the snacks please come take some I don't want to shle at all home I've been transgendering visibly for 13 years one of the reasons I'm here is because my
parents would have sat on that side of the table when I was a kid my parents took me to therapist after therapist trying to get me to stop wearing boy clothes needless to say it did not work but I was taught that the adults in my life didn't trust me to make decisions for myself I was taught that I had to
keep my life a secret because the world wasn't safe for me I'm going to read an excerpt of an email my dad sent me when I was in college after I told him I was getting Top surgery I would like you to take a moment and imagine yourself one 5 10 years from now and consider what your
life might be yes your future is uncertain but you are putting a lot of obstacles in your path now is the time to consider removing them here we are almost exactly five years later almost to the day um thank you to my
friends out in the audience new and old parents students community members menaces Warriors mafiosos I have seen the future and it is beautiful and I have never felt more loved I have never felt stronger and my
path has never been so clear make sure you're in our signal chat um to hear to learn about upcoming events with our Collective uh aunties and friends for Liberation we added the UN friends part now everyone now it's not a gender thing um we would love if y'all would join us
um it's an open Collective the snacks are for everyone um and I didn't time this very well I wrote this in the back with a lot of anxiety happy birthday aunties and [Music] Friends next we [Music]
have y'all look tired honestly so do I you and me both man um so I'm like an I'm an engineer um I work on difficult problems with a lot of smart people and I gotta
say seems like you guys do too the thing you mentioned about um people cheating the system to try to get to easier tests that seems like a hard problem and I'm an engineer not an educator I don't know what the solution
is I'm not going to speak on that but what I will say is that if my fellow Engineers walked out of the room just before we were about to decide how to solve that hard
problem I'd have some opinions and I would most certainly be sharing them with my manager and I would hope that my manager would do something to ensure that we could actually do the
hard and important work that we are set out to do just as you all are set out to do hard and important work and can't because specific people aren't doing their jobs thank you after that Abby
so we have 16 minutes left and we have how many more speakers two more yeah you got it for the sake of this district and everyone who shows up here including yourselves you need significant bylaw reform this goes
beyond 248 beyond the upcoming CC election beyond all policy that you deal with here if you're not a functioning Council you're just some people sitting behind a table unless you're having fun right now please consider being tougher
on yourselves and each other really crack down on members leaving early who can't even be bothered to vote curtail absences both excused and unexcused and if you're in such need of chair discretion consider showing some and get
rid of the people making a fool out of you and your colleagues you have no power right now you are just you're just people right now you're not a council you are one two three one two
three4 five people behind a bench that can't be fun we it it's a quarter to 10 I think you owe everyone here some honesty and integrity but if you're really not willing to do anything about the utter
threat to local democracy being waged in this room I only have one more question for you as mod Marin has deemed it pertinent to this District by presedent can you orgasm thank you Abby
Andie hello I did not plan to speak so I'm GNA improv slightly I am a teacher though so I do this all day um I'm a high school thank you thank you thank you I'm a high school history teacher um thank you thank you thank you um unfortunately I spent my days talking
about the rise of fascism which has been particularly uh not fun lately haven't been enjoying it at all um but there's some parallels here we get it I'm not going to go into it escap goats Etc okay you know we only have so much time I'm
this really past my bedtime um my kids can't come to these meetings they don't their parents don't let them just like go to random things in Manhattan all the time for like where like scary people are yelling about their rights um but I know many trans kids and I've known many
trans kids and my trans kids deserve to be happy and I don't think that some of these people know trans kids and they're really different some of them are really weird some of them are kind of annoying to be honest exactly and that's okay and that's okay
that's part of the process God bless them okay but they deserve to be loved they deserve to be respected not just listen to respected because I don't care if you hear me if you're not respecting my
rights and more importantly than my rights are my kids rights right they deserve to be happy I've already lost one former LGBT student to suicide and I don't want to lose anymore so it's not hypothetical for them they know who they are we know who they are
we love them we respect them and these things have a lasting lasting lasting impacts deadly impacts and I spend every day I work in a Catholic School in New York City I have to fight for these kids your
kids are supposed to have it better so do your job because I can't just not show up at 8: a.m. tomorrow morning to teach The Armenian Genocide I got to go it's past my bedtime if I don't go that's bad I'm endangering children
right so I'm trying to go to bed I'm trying to stop hanging out in elementary schools in my free time um please do your job EXO EXO hey I wanted to to draw some parallels between the rubric resolution
and resolution 248 um firstly the use of rubric it's really confusing I talked to a lot of people tonight that were kind of confused about rubric like wait it's actually the grading scale it's not about like it's not about how you grade an essay I think the superintendent was
a bit confused when Craig was asking him questions and I think that's on purpose like it's gender ideology or biological sex muddy muddying the water second Craig really only had hypothetical to talk about he's like what if this one school somehow inflated
grades and would you be concerned too and then the superintendent was like I guess yeah sure but what about the data and then mod was like yeah I have the data but like not right now but like you like trust me I have the data and then Craig was like to just to Elena silently not even into the mic was like you have
my email you can like I'm like what about the 100 people in this room like I want I want to see the data too when I get yeah thank you and then lastly Len wanted to prioritize student speakers U by shuffling around the order
but he also voted against making the student rep votes binding [Applause] so if anyone's going and taking the train toown height sportman area let's all do grow I'm really tired if you made a friend tonight make
sure you exchange numbers like we we came out here all the way to 10 o' and we're all really tired but let's make it worth it so like make some friends let's let's keep it [Music] up so we can the minutes that's next on the agenda uh new business there would be no
business because we form so uh oh um and then so I will motion for German everybody okay with that working business
meeting I want to do a roll call for the working business meeting we have to do the roll call um free Alison is notelle is not here chars is not here is not here is
not here Jessica Sarah is not here Saina is not here I am here 1 two three four five we have five present this matter of form we have one
two three four five six seven members just going to say who is Excuse excuse and our student members are not present we do not have a quum so we can not do any business although any update on the
treasures report everybody if you have any expenses please submit it I haven't really seen any expenses this side room you have any it okay uh so business work work business meeting is a journ night
everybody for