start the meeting uh good evening and welcome to Community Education Council 2 my name is Craig slutkin and I'm the president of the council and we'll be chairing this evening's meeting I'm going to start by asking our interpreters they would like
to make any announcements in and in the chat they would like to or if they want to say anything please do um also there are sign up sheets for our public speaker session please sign up at the front right back there um and before we
begin I'd like to recognize three members on this Das first we are pleased to welcome Alexander Stillman and Lyla Jon to the council as the two student Representatives as I mentioned at the last meeting they have both spent some time with our superintendent through the interview
process and we are all excited for their contributions we'll let them introduce themselves when we get into the calendar meeting I would also like to welcome back M Mar to the council pursuant to the federal court mod was reinstated back to her cc2 elected seat earlier this month we welcome her back and we
are looking forward to working with her on behalf of our students we're going to start off tonight with our annual meeting meeting which I now call to order as a reminder in July we were tasked with elections for the four Council election positions we were only
able to elect one the president M we did not have a quum for our August meeting so we will hold the elections for the three remaining positions tonight we will start off with the roll call with the recording secretary position vacant I will take the roll callide
is absent Allison Bowen here Allison Bowen is present Daniela OV danela igov is absent Charles love Charles love is absent Gavin Healey here Gavin Healey is
here M Maron here M Maron is here son Patel here son Patel is here Sarah Shor Arenberg here Sarah sh arberg is here Jessica Savage here Jessica Savage is here Sab
Sab is not here Leonard Silverman here Leonard Silverman is here Craig slutkin is here I will also call on the attendance for the student Representatives lla jaon lla jaon is here Alexander Stillman here Alexander
Stillman is here so we do have a for we will now go into the annual meeting which we have a script from the Department of Education it is now time it is now 6:14 and this meeting of the Community Education Council to will come to order my name is
CRA lein and I convening the annual meeting for the purpose of electing officers Article 2 Section two of the council bylaws requires that officers be elected by a roll call vote at the annual meeting to be elected a candidate must have at least seven votes officers
remain in their positions until their successors have been elected the first voer of business would be to elect a chair protm to chair the election meeting until the president has been elected however as I was elected president during our July annual meeting I will conduct the
election sorry uh okay so to elect officers we will vote upon each position before moving on to the next so that any candidate not elected to an office can run for others I will take nominations members can nominate themselves if a
member is nom nomed by another member I will confirm that they accept the nomination nominations do not need to be executive if a member is not present but has submitted his their nomination in writing to the administrative assistant or another member they will be treated
the same as any member who is present including having a two-minute statement when Allowed by someone else sorry position so each nominee will be allowed to make a speech of up to two minutes following the candidates presentations
we will conduct a roll call vote all positions must be voted on even if there is only one candidate when there are two or more candidates each member must make a choice and vote for one or the other example John Doe and Jan Smith are running for president on the rooll call each member will vote for either John or
Jane the council must not first vote on John then on Jane members May abstain on voting If no candidate receives at least seven votes we will vote by show of hands on whether to do a second round or proceed to the elections for the next office if a position remains unfilled
over two or more rounds of voting the incumbent will continue in the position new elections for all unfilled positions must be put on the agenda of the following month's calendar meetings until all the positions are filled is the procedure clear to all members
yes first we will elect the council Vice President are there any Nom I will ask if there are any nominations for the office of vice president and I will start it off by nominating Leonard Silverman are there any other nominations for the office of Vice President I accept I'm sorry do you
accept yes are there any other nominations for the office of Vice President okay so we there are no other nominations so we will take this to a vote no okay is
absent Alison Bain Alison Bowen abstains danela OV is absent Charles love is absent Gavin hilly yes Gavin hilly is a yes mod Mar obain m Marin is an obstain
son Patel yes son Patel is a yes Sarah Shor aronberg yes Sarah Shor aronberg is a yes Jessica Savage yes Jessica Savage is a yes Sabina serin is absent Leonard Silverman yes Leonard Silverman is a yes
and Craig slin is a yes student Representatives don't participate in the office and post um so we have a six to Zer to one sorry 6 to Zer to two Mr Silverman Is Not Elected I would recommend that we just table till next
month oh I would make a application or motion to table the election of vice president to next month I think it's going to change in the next minute or two okay so under the rules we can take a hand vote is everybody okay with a vote next month
vo okay we will now move over and I'm I'm just noting that council member love Charles love has joined us uh we will now take the vote for the position of secretary are there any nominations for the position of
secretary I will nominate Daniela egaro and she has confirmed to me that she will accept are there any other nominations for the position of secretary none we'll take it to a vote uh pre question just a point of order if
Danielle is already serving as vice president could she serve in two positions simultaneously she will she will no longer be the it will be like what I had she will no longer be the vice president and that will be bacon she's elected to new position say I thought that you would
continue in the position if you haded someone else okay see I'm just it just occurred to me yeah okay so for now I guess we will draw the nomination we'll be that is for now are there any other nominations for secretary for this
evening okay hearing none we'll move that we push that to the next next next month uh position of Treasurer are there any nominations for the position of Treasurer I will nominate pre or I are there any other not and she has
confirmed to me that she will accept are there any other uh nominations for the position of Treasurer okay hearing none we will take this to a vote is absent Alison Bowen yes Alison B
is a yes SEL OV is absent Charles love yes Charles love is a yes Gavin Hy uh Gavin H is an exstension M Maron yes M Maron is a yes son Patel son Patel is an obain exension Sarah sh
aronberg yes Sarah sh arberg is a yes Jessica Savage yes Jessica Savage is a yes Saina sarin absent Leonard Silverman yes leard Silman is a yes Craig slutkin is a yes so that is seven votes for zero
against two extensions so pre opai has been elected Treasurer I want to thank everybody and this will conclude this section of this portion of the meeting we will now call start the calendar meeting and call it to order it is
6:21 I will take the roll call for the meeting in the absence of a secretary prai pre is absent Alison Bowen Alison Bowen is here Daniel OV Danel OV is absent Charles
love here Charles Love is Here Gavin healing Gavin heing is here uh M Marin M Maron is here son Patel son Patel is here Sarah sh [Music] arberg is here Jessica Savage Jessica
Savage is here sa s is absent Leonard Silverman here Leonard Silverman is here Craig Clin is here Lyla J lla J is here Alexandra Stillman Alexandra Stillman is here we have a
forum welcome everybody uh just in terms of our Council Norms uh I do uh hope that I know we're going to have a spirited meeting tonight uh I will hope that everybody treats each other with respect and kindness we don't all agree
and we feel very passionate about many is about many issues uh but I think at the end of the day you think about our kids and the example that we want to set for them so hopefully we can uh show uh that respect towards each other I will
also ask folks in the uh Zoom uh to uh respect each other as you're making comments in the zoom uh if there is an issue uh we will uh have to close comments but please uh hopefully we will not uh get to that
place I would like to introduce and give an opportunity for our student members to speak and tell us uh a little bit about themselves I will start with Alexandra and you can say anything you want to say you can say just your name you can say what school you go to why
you join you can say anything don't feel pressured but welcome and the Flor is yours if we can get them a mic and turn it on hi everyone my name is Alexander Stillman I'm a current senior at Hunter College High School located on the upper
east side of Manhattan uh one of the reasons why I joined Community Community Education Council 2 was because I believe in education Equity um last year I started a 501c3 nonprofit debate for all which provides over 500 kids um in under resource areas free debate
education to bridge the education Equity Gap in New York city so I'm really really passionate about providing um our students our Future Leaders with equal opportunities so that's my name re hi my name is l Jason I'm a senior at
the Clinton School which is in Union Square um I'm passionate about advocating for the needs of all students in District 2 and I'm really excited get started this year great great welcome uh we're looking
forward to your uh your participation um we will now go to the presentation of resolutions uh we will start off with resolution 259 resolution to affirm cc2 support of NY cps's guidelines to
support transgender and gender expansive students and res recision number resolution number 248 does anybody wish to speak on this resolution is there a I think youc so
um so yeah I think this resolution [Music] is so we start off every meeting talking about about the the Norms of the meeting and about about respect um but on this Council respect
does not extend to people's as we have seen since our April meeting our March meeting uh the majority of this Council does not believe that respect extends to people's gender identity and gender
expression and despite that we have heard overwhelmingly from our community from students from families from teachers from social workers from people who are working in our schools working with our
students every single day and they have told us how important respect for students gender identity and gender expression is and so this resolution asks for us to reaffirm the gender guidelines that have been in
existence for five years and to resin resolution 248 which this Council passed 8 to3 uh several months ago um that called for a Review Committee a Review
Committee of people um not not the students not the families but of other people to decide other people's children's gender and gender identity and frankly that is wrong that is disgraceful and that lacks just shows an
utter lack of decency from this Council so I'm asking us to pass this resolution thank you next resolution is resolution 260 resolution to extend eligibility for student op courts does anybody wish to speak on this resolution um I will
council member Sor arber no yes I sorry sorry gav has it just use Gavin it worked no that was that was
Gavin all right I hear testing Sor testing out mic I know I'm sorry uh so this resolution resolution 260 to extend the
eligibility for student Hing cards um MTA and uh depart education partner to give oming cards to students who live more than half mile from their schools um those om cards have four rides per day and are uh used are um effective 365
days a year but students who live within and half a mile from the schools are not eligible for those cards that is um not really equable and fair a lot of activities happen outside of that half a mile we all know that um Sports uh field
space is at a premium here in Manhattan so students often travel and take the train to play sports for after school um so even if they live close by they might be going on a train in addition to students with disabilities um and parents with disabilities who help
support their students might be using the TR even it's under uh it's under half a mile dates and the weekends all sorts of reasons um this is a wonderful program it also allows students to access all
their various resources we have in New York City like doing two museums on weekends and all sorts of wonderful opportunities and we want that open to all students this has had a lot of support among our community there's a changed on
or um this the right one yeah what call it petition it's got 1800 signatures um and so Yeahs like they should be available to thank you thank
you okay thank you uh so now we move into the program presentations portion of our meeting were supposed to be two presentations but we did receive a request uh that the dial presentation be folded is into the superintendent report are there any
objections no who made superintendent McGuire okay great um the other presentation is uh presentation of District Two principls uh we are fortunate in our district to have many wonderful principles uh and we
are fortunate enough toight to have several of them come and talk about the first week uh first couple of weeks and some of the programs in their schools I'm going to uh hand over the mic to superintendent McGuire who is going to introduce them to one they will work
before um good evening everybody uh thank so much for having us tonight my name is k MC I'm superintendent of District 2 thank you Council uh and thank you for this opportunity for us to introduce our new school leaders uh to you all this evening um we are very
fortunate in our district to have a large number of both assistant principles and teach who are uh working toward lure in uh School leadership uh and who have really had some very real
experiences as um School leaders within their schools and tonight I just want to give them the chance to introduce themselves to you uh so you get to know who they are uh and if your children end up attending their school then you'll know the faces behind the work and um I know that their
work extends far beyond their uh short presentation this evening so they're just going to say a few words uh to you all tonight um and I also just want to really extend a thank you to them um for being here this evening as well I know they had a long long day so I think
maybe let's just go in order for the sake of sorry Christine uh they're all Elementary School principles so we'll start with uh at PS1 evening commity Council District families and students my name is Christine long and I'm the E acting
principal at PS1 Alfred East Smith Elementary this will be my 20th year working at PS1 and my prior prior rols have included working as a special education teacher in our 12 mon one and ICT classroom as well as the and assistant principal I am honored to be
in this role and to be able to continue to work alongside our families and to continue the collaboration that we have established here together I also hope to build new Partnerships and opportunities for our children to continue to learn and grow through our dance visual arts
and science programs similarly to the other schools in our district we are implementing wit and wisdom at PS1 we are looking to align our work with foundational literacy to continue to support students literacy learning and skills as a school leader I will
continue to support the growth of our Mandarin and Spanish du language classes as well as to strengthen our intervention work as we welcomed families back to school a couple of weeks ago we celebrated our first day with photos that served as a promise that we will all support one another
because our families all belong to P one so thank you for your time this evening and I look forward to a wonderful school year together oh MC it so like to welcome Rena Lee from ps42 good evening my name is rowa Lee I'm the interacting principal at
ps42 I have served in many capacities for the past 15 years for five years I had the privilege of being a classroom teacher in an incredible school and for 10 years I served as the enl and testing coordinator and one year as a principal
these experiences have deepened my passion for education and my commitment for fostering a nurturing Community an environment where every student can f as principal my goal is to empower our students to become literate thinkers I
believe that with the support of the Chancellor's New York City reads initiative and the strong foundational literacy programs such as foundations we can help students build the skills they need for lifelong success this year we are embarking on an
exciting Journey with Whit and wisdom and I look forward to collaborating closely with our dedicated coaches to ensure for a successful implementation together we will continue to strive for excellence and create a vibrant inclusive Learning Community I
am eager to work alongside with the students family staff and Community to make this school year one of growth and achievement thank you apologies uh ps40 welcome [Applause]
Jackie my name is Jackie Lightner I'm the interim acting principal at p 40 I'm also a parent of two children who um have attended elementary middle and high schools in dist two um I'm excited to share with you all a bit about myself and our plans for this school year I've
spent 13 years as a classroom teacher in district one and I loved every minute of it prior to becoming an assistant principal in District 2 I further developed my skills as an educator and school leader through my roles as an instructional coach and pure independent
evaluator each of these experiences have prepared me for my current role as interim acting principal at cs40 as a school leader my passion is to foster a collaborative and inclusive environment I believe that strong positive relationships with students
staff and families are crucial it's important to me that everyone whether they're in the classroom the hallways playground feel seen and supportive one of the best parts of the school year so far has been watching our students settle into the school
community and seeing our staff work closely with them to ensure a smooth transition while keeping them engaged in their learning this year our school is committed to becoming even more datadriven by using student performance data to inform our teaching and planning
our goal is to enhance student achievement across all subjects by tailoring instruction to meet each student's unique needs I'm confident that this will be a fantastic year at P4 day thank you so much um and welcome Magie Moon from CS
2016 thank you uh good evening everyone my name is Magie Moon I'm the new interm acting principal of ps16 um I'm also a proud parent like ja of a child who's gone through elementary middle and now has begun High School in
District 2 she also my daughter went to p16 as a student so I have a close connection to the school um having been um in the role as a parent for the seven years when she was there um this is my 26th year as an educator I have done a lot of things across those 26 years um
or 25 now into 26 and uh the last 5 years I've served as an assistant principal um most recently at P 59 in District 2 and before that at p139 in District 22 um and prior to becoming an administrator in the doe I was a
classroom teacher in the doe and then I left the doe for a long time and I was a staff developer or literacy consultant in many um different capacities including living abroad for seven years in Asia and working with the International School circuit at that time as a literacy coach um we have had
a charge from our superintendent this year of thinking carefully about the question how are we changing and I've been thinking about change in terms of impact and Improvement the everyday student experience of our black Hispanic and students with disabilities um and so
we started this year at p16 thinking about the theme of belonging and what it means to be part of a team part of a of a community and the importance of making sure that all students and all families and caregivers are considered as team 116 um and it's also helped us think
carefully about how we want to raise some d data points um specifically with academics and attendance and then this year we're um alongside of all of the other schools and District to launching the new curriculum of w and wisdom um one of the highlights this past week and
past few days has been um welcoming our Whit wisdom coach to our building um and getting to know that person who we know is going to provide us a lot of support with the implementation of the curriculum um and then one of my personal biggest highlights from the launch of the school year has been
opening up a new 3K program we have two new 3K classes we have um not yet 30 but they're on paper they just all haven't shown up yet 30 uh 3 year olds or two-year-olds and three-year olds um crying singing napping eating in our building um and it's been really
exciting and we also um were given the opportunity to open up a self-contained classroom which has not been um a section or a class in our school for many years so um those are some of the things that we're looking forward to as a school Community to um keep working on and making sure um are really healthy
and Alive year um so thank you all for listening to us tonight and last but not least um Casey Cory who's the principal of ps343 hi my name is C Cory I am the Interac principal at ps343 the pexp school this is my 18th year in the nle
Department of Education um and this is my 10th year PEX flip seven of them having been six of them having been um as an AP to the founding principal Maggie um my career started in district one as well um as a special education teacher in a self-contained classroom um
that's the real reason I went into education withing the children who needed the most at the time um and that was not just servicing the students but also the families and making sure that they had everything that they needed in order to ensure that their student had
everything they um and I come from a family of Educators my grandma was an educator my mom was an educator I Married an educator my kids are kind of probably the Educators at this point um I had two little ones who
are keep me really busy and it's really really fun to spend the day away from them and I get to visit them and I went no um so a little bit um about what I'm excited for this year PEX PEX feels like a home me um I've
grown up with many of the staff there and um similar to what Magie was saying we launched our year with a sense of belonging we welcome many um new families to our community last year a lot of Migrant families and it was a learning experience for every single
member of our community and we want to do better and making sure that they feel like they belong in our community and that's with communication to families that's with Outreach that's with working on attendance making sure that they're in school because we know students belong to like they belong they're going to come to school and if students come
to school it's going to improve their academics so that's something that we're working on with the school Community um we are also launching written wisdom like all the other District Two schools and it's been really really exciting to get into classrooms and see what's been going on I got into going through a fourth grade classroom and they're
talking about the heart and they're talking about the figurative meaning and the literal meaning of the heart and just the conversation around that second graders are taking observations of Art and talking to each other about all of these sa painting the we have three
prepay classes this year and they're edible and they're on my floor so you'll usually find me one of those three rooms and they're singing and constructing and playing the kindergarteners are learning how to navigate the school building it's been a really exciting start to the school year and I think one of the
things that I walked away with from the first few days of school was we have a new family school one of the one of the pre kids has autism and the mom wrote a note saying we belong here and I was like okay for this year said it be great so um thank you if anyone wants to visit go
visit have a great night um thanks so much to our new uh interacting principles here in District 2 uh in our elementary schools as you've heard from their presentation there's lots of years of experience um so we know they're going to be great schools
um now this year and into the future thanks so much for the time and thank you all for coming appreciate Youk thank you uh teachers who uh just SP principles who have just spoken greatly appreciate coming down and thank you to the superintendent for organizing that it was actually very very useful
good to meet some new principles we now have the uh first public speaker session if Victor has the sign in she uh lens Silman is going to qu out the names and that microphone seems to work Victor our administrative assistant is
going to manage maybe we'll do by the TV uh Victor is going to uh manage the microphone uh each person will have two minutes to speak we will give you I I will do the um the timing we'll give you a little bit of a warning if you're
coming close uh so over to L uh was 12 I think we have 12 signed up and if anybody else wants to sign up please if anybody else wants to sign up please do so please come up here and you can sign up while we're speaking I'm
going to give you my disclaimer I'm terrible with names and the handwriting isn't always great on these so um I'm first speaker is going to be uh s MCO and next we also have after Miss MOA
we have Mariah ker and mo M can you me so most of my third grest friends right to uh R school bus to school from all over from District Two
um my my third grader has multiple friends in third class who used to take school bus until end of second grade but starting third grade in September they are not allowed on the school bus anymore um and the parent chat group
exploded so we looked at the doe oability and if you need between half to 1 mile from school a student is is eligible for a school bus for Kinder first and second grade but
once you are third grade you are no longer aable uh to ride the same School busu Road only provided with um only card um even if the bus route exists and there's space for them so does this rule
make sense New York City South way is not safe at all for third grader to ride Al 30 minutes walking each way to third grader um is not easy and but most of all the bus route and bus stop exist and
they are they have space but he cannot ride it because he's too old 8 years old all of my friends who rais this issue are woring parents having multiple kids in different schools they say they are late for work every day once they she
now has to spend fortunes for Uber to be on time to jugle the drop off and work there are many families in temporary hous and in Midtown on my daughters us who are in the same situation so I'm ccd2 council members
and superintendent M would you please help my friends [Music] hello we're going to take one person out of order because we have a student here and is there ansus
kimanis here I'm I am current Junior at s High School here in District 2 um I'm really proud to have uh graduated from elementary mid currently attending obviously High
School in the New York City public school system and I'm also proud to be a transgender Pro uh and I am a co-president of the uh GSA at sty called Spectrum um and in the two years and a
bit so far that I've been at sty I've been really um I I've really enjoyed the experience I've had with the community and incredibly accepting uh community and um of of people of all all Races genders
and Sexes um despite some of its faults but usually I usually kids don't this kind of kind of school board but last um was it April March
last spring when um this boy decided to rule against um students like me and many of my the people in my community at school I was really proud of how our whole Community kind of mobilized um against that kind of encroachment on our
rights and against our respect signing petitions starting movements raising awareness um and I just want to point out that in the actual school system the students the school system is supposed to serve all that we want respect for each other we just want to we want to
get along and we want everyone to respect each other and when board like this make decisions that um that break that relationship that break that mutual respect it just it feels really awful to the community and the role of our education system needs to be to teach
and but foremost to protect our students and this board seems to have forgotten or ignored that and I urge them to reconsider the previous decisions speaker is good evening my name is Mira ker I'm
an attorney here in Manhattan I'm also a member of eastn Temple which is a synagogue here in District 2 I'm actually the riton which means I'm married to the rabbi but I'm here on behalf of my daughter who is a student
in the New York City public school my daughter Clara is 5 years old she's in she just finished kindergarten just started first grade this is CLA she is a transgender girl I know that there are people on this Council and in this community who
believe that she is not really a girl but I want to tell you about her experience as a transgender girl in New York City public school it's been a wonderful experience proud to be Public School parents have benefited from those
protections that the doe has put out we are proud of New York City and the way that it has protected its transgender and gender expensive students in a way that many other places in the rest of the country do not what it means for cl
to be protected by those guidelines is that when she is bullied by other students who misgender her who use the wrong name to refer to her who say no you can't really be a girl you're a boy that she is protected she knows that she
can go to her teachers she knows she can go to the administration and that they will take care of her she cannot be forced to use the wrong bathroom and she is protected from the opinions of bigots who believe that she is not real and the
impact of that on her as a 5-year-old has been she knows what's fair and she knows what's right and she knows that she's protected by her community and some of what this Council has proposed to do is keep that away
from her to tell this 5-year-old girl that she is not real that her experience is conclude your remarks pleas two minutes I want to be clear that this is not about sports she is this as we've seen all over other
places in the country an attempt to use Sports to claim to be protecting girls and let's be clear the claim to protect girls does not include my daughter this is an attempt to take away the protections that this city is proud
to have and it should not be allowed is low M and after that is gonna be Amaya Perez I would recommend if you hold the microphone closer to your mouth it might not go in and out hi my name is Mo I am a train's mask
um my PRS on pday I also work as LCSW as a trans therapist serving some clients within District 2 young adolescence that have graduated teachers and have spoken here before and I know some of you recognize my faces recognize yours this
weekend I had a really great privilege of being able to be in the presence of Miss major if you know who Miss major is just raise your hand just to see Miss major is 83 years old she is a
transgender a acist she was around during Stonewall do you know how rare it is for a trans person like me to see an e3y old shouldn't be that rare in one of the meetings I proposed to one of our
activist groups to write down how many trans kids and content warning to any students in audience have taken their lives or have been murdered based on their gender identity and expression
one it would have been harmful for the students to hear that two there wouldn't have been enough signs in this room the reason we don't see trans Elders or transcor or get to grow up with them is because they either have to hide out of
safety they're not allowed to live they harm themselves I see this as a mental health professional substance abuse Eating Disorders it carries on to adulthood it doesn't have to look that way I also see a lot of Joy a lot of
Life a lot of Vitality a lot of blossoming a lot of community and it can look just like that this board has a duty to Serve and Protect your students to protect their
lives we've seen it happen last year with include your Rems please just they deserve that protection thank you for letting me speak after that we're gonna have Dr elizabth we have Amaya
Perez evening Council my name is I am the chapter reader against rumors hold on hold on hold on hold on we're we're not going to do that we're going to give everybody the respect to speak we're not going to do that we G start if we can start
over stop we're not we're not going to do that we're going to give everybody the the respect to speak we're not going to make noises while other people are speaking can we can we can can we do that can we not make squeaky noises or
whatever that is while somebody's speaking start over again if we need to we'll keep starting over my namea I'm the G against for the state of New York Beyond disappointing I'm back here again having a stand up for girls and parents of New York by standing against
resolution 259 it's disgusting that some council members going for a second failed attempt to resend resolution 248 it's a blant attempt not only silen female athletes and parents by refusing to have an open dialogue pleas stop we're going to start over and we're
going to keep doing it if you want to be here all night we're not going to be we're gonna give everybody respect to speak there two minutes that's what we're going to do whether we agree or disagree we're parent count we're a
council uh and this is a public meeting everybody has the right to speak and be heard so we're going to give her she's going to keep getting her two minutes and and I will do this for any person on either side of any any side of any issue it's
not about agreeing or disagreeing with the speaker it's respect for the speaker and this is the example that we should be setting for our kids you can start over please oh here we go hello okay my name isaya I'm the G against trap leader for
the state of New York it's disappointing that I'm back here again having to stand up for the girls and parents of New York by standing against resolution 259 it's disgusting that some council members are going for a second fielded attempt to resend resolution 248 it's a slap in the face to attempt to pass resolution that
reiterates her support for the gender guidelines that take away girls rights and safety from allowing trains identifying boys and girls with sports and spaces to instruct the teachers to lie and hide the child's medical conditions from their parents these gender guidelines are problematic there are countless examples of TR to
identifying male students in females for spes um and the consequences of it like for example Arcadia High School when a girl got blly beat due to approaching a trans identify male student about her opinion about him using the girl's bathroom or the many girls who have been
injured by playing sports with trans identifying boys like a female volleyball player who suffered a brain damage after a trans player forcefully h over the head how many more girls have to end up violently beaten or concuss until we start taking the right to Single Sex bases seriously so gender
guidelines also eliminate gr only Sports and scholis opportunities with 90% of the for 500 female CEOs having play the sport they crediting the scholarships they gained and the skills they gain from the sports to that by supporting policies that redefine what it means to be a girl giving up those female only
spots to biological boys we are sacrificing those features in the name of false equality and inclusion the gender gu not only sacrifice those rights but also parents rights by accepting school officials to hide children transition and medical condition from their parents which is a violation of amendment 14 the gender
guidelines State safety concern or lack of acceptance we must keep and the child defending from their parents but instead of encouraging for kids to be honest with their parents we're creating you have a few minutes and creating a safe environment of both sorry creating a safe environment
to get the medical care they really need these guidelines Foster an environment of both dece and fear underd develop immature children the power to thank thank you um next speaker is Elizabeth
Elizabeth next speak next next speaker is Elizabeth fedak of course it starts with a d quote feminism requires precisely what patriarchy destroys in women unimpeachable bravery and confronting
male power I'm Dr Elizabeth fedak stent graduate primary organizer of Roar women NYC and I am here to remind you what that looks like it looks like what mon Maron is doing you want to include people you want to be inclusive include
women and girls as stakeholders in something that should have included them from the beginning those of you who would still resend resolution 248 look at me farri men are not your enemy bigotry is not your enemy bigotry is
your charge and it took over when the movement you support demonized feminists with the goal of erasing centuries of women's progress look at me I am your enemy the antiviolence feminists who oppose women's oppression in all forms
are your enemies the women who will go out in public and say it is unacceptable always to groom children by exposing them to pornography are your enemies the women who say crossdressing is a fetish and the men who do it in front of kids
are roping strangers children and de feeding their fetish are your enemies you want to be on the right side of History you need to drop this astroturfed fake Civil Rights Movement as soon as possible because right now it looks like you're willing to destroy The
Single Sex spes half the population needs to comfortably attend school in favor of a Eugenics project either the word woman means something or it means nothing do not resend resolution
248 thank you the next the next speaker is g to be Michaela Stein camp thank you all for allowing me the opportunity to students attending OPP to take biology and
algebra can you can you hold the mic a little closer you're just cutting now yeah I know you got it's [Music] [Music] like testing testing testing
oh just just wait one second this year as reported by current parents all eth grade students at baru Sal East Side Middle School lab Yorkville Morton and Clinton middle schools have a wonderful opportunity to take the biology regions
course in comparison to only 25% of eth graders at Wagner and paren and students they are respectfully request the same opportunity as the other middle schools thank you you the next speaker is it looks like August Gruden
groden all right you can repeat your name if um testing testing one two three everyone can hear me thank you okay um my name is August good um you time out I have the wonderful privilege of being both in alumni of New York City public
schools and having a wonderful trans sister who attends New York City Public Schools she's the best person I ever met and without her I don't think I be alive right now I love her so much and I can attest to the importance of of equality based Protections in
schools when I was 14 I made the brave decision to change my name in my school and it made me feel more connected to and closer to the people that I was speaking to both in the watch real Educators and in the realm of students and having people who stood up for me
and protected me made it safer for me to go to school and make it safer for other children to go to school equality based Protections in schools are one of the most important things you can have because schools are not just a place to for students to learn things like math or science it's a
place for them to learn what's acceptable and to be treated and if adults in their life tell them it is okay for them to be disrespected them to be treated as they're nothing for them to be to be called harmful Nam for them to be harassed and bullied what would
that be like in the future what kind of relationships they get in the people who supposedly were supposed to protect them tell them it's okay for people to do this to you it's not something that children should have to deal with as someone who has been a queer student and knows that children deserve everything
and it's our job to give them everything to lay down our lives to give them everything that they deserve I demand will we pass Pro equality protections and forend harmful things like section 238 and allow children to go to the schools that they deserve and be taught
that love is respect and they are worthy of respect and they always have been never ever accept being your child's first bully and never let people be your child's first bully thank you that's all I have to [Applause] [Music] say next speaker is Liz Tomasetti
and then we're gonna have Chrissy Rose after that yes uh my name is Liz and my child is a third grader in district 15 I've been attending these meetings
since April and last month was the first time that I stood up to speak unfortunately only four council members weren in attendance of that meeting to those of you that were present please excuse me if I repeat
myself do any of you have transgender children two years ago my child was granted a transfer from our district superintendent's office due to the trans pratic PTA and administration at her school her previous
school do any of you have children that needed to request a safety transfer I guess an ey roll is a no is your child worry that strangers are going to take away their health care are you willing to tell your child
that they do not deserve Equity at their school due to their identity I won't your job on this council is to be driven by the needs of all students not just those of your [Music]
child I do not doubt that those of you who have supported resolution 248 in the past will continue to support it under the guise of just asking questions but it is your shame and the
damage is your responsibility as a result of proactively choosing to hurt already vulnerable children in your community thank you our next speaker is Chrissy Rose hi my name is Chrissy Rose I'm a black
Bel and full contact karate and a semi knockdown Champion I'm also a martial arts and self-defense instructor and I teach both kids and adults I'm going to keep it simple policies like the one being discussed that prevent kids from playing on the team or with the group that aligns with their gender hurt trans
kids I teach kids including trans and GNC kids and I have seen how they Thrive when they are affirmed and allowed to participate as themselves in athletics activities like martial arts are unique environments for kids to experience challenge cooperation teamwork and fun
that growth is not possible if kids are excluded and it's not possible if adults are using Athletics as a vehicle to tell kids to tell kids who they are frankly it's absurd for an outside Review Committee to decide something like what team a child can be a part of based on
what they think that child's gender is I'd be interested to know if anyone on that committee is trans if not how could they possibly understand and advocate for the needs of trans kids and finally a note on the impact on
female athletes since that's in the title of resolution 248 I think it's pretty disappointing that that's used as a selling point to exclude trans kids we talk we're talking about kids sports why is who wins more important than all of the things kids get out of sports that
aren't metals and I'm not going to get into anything about biology or hormones there are people who can do that much better than I can and L if you're a person who professes a concern for that you should be doing some reading on that yourself what I will say is that I am who people are talking about when they
talk about protecting female athletes and what I have to say to that is don't do me any favors don't you dare exclude and harm trans kids in my name I am happy to fight trans women and I do it is an honor to train and compete with
them including trans women in sports doesn't hurt s women in sports the more women women have access to sports the better thank [Applause] you our next speaker is Ali Blake hello my name is Ali Blake and I
join you today as a queer and trans educator and education scholar urging the council to pass number 259 of farming youth through the existing guid lines for supporting trans and gender expansive students and ascending resolution 248 as the overwhelming
majority have sought since that resolution was first proposed a mentor of mine Dr Jas ma who is a cleer parent PTA president at PS3 and professor of Education who's unfortunately having event at PS3 tonight and can't make it
also wishes to share her support for resolution 259 as so many have shared a yes for this resolution is a need affirmation for all youth in the district if the council is truly acting with the concern for an interest in supporting girls those who participate
in school sports teams and otherwise then policies that affirm and support trans and gender expansive youth are a route toward just that because policies that support trans and gender extensive use bodily autonomy and self-determination uphold bodily autonomy and self-determination for all
I speak with you also as someone who as a child was put under invasive supposedly medical scrutiny when my body developed in ways that surprised adults with supposed expertise I join those who want a world in which no child and no
person at all has their bodily autonomy violated any potential effort to maintain categorization by supposed sex designated at Birth opens any participating youth to the vile potential for their bodly autonomy to be violated for the sake of this
maintenance empowering adults to disgustingly demand supposed confirmation of sex as if biological sex even were binary as school sports are what an incredibly disturbing desire violating efforts to supposedly
confirm someone's sex designated at Birth are also wielded significantly more against youth of color especially black youth whose childhood and girlhood is regularly questioned or denied by adults in power you a vote to resend 248 is a vote to affirm all Youth and firmly
reject racist trans phobia I urge you to listen to the youth families and educators of District 2 and vote Yes on resolution 259 thank you and our last speaker is Miss Daniels evening everybody um my name is Ela Daniels I've been teaching at n
schools for 13 years and currently I'm the co-founder and executive director of transformed schools the trans Bo here on Christmas week um the first thing that I want to say today is thank you um thank you to everyone whove shown up tonight
and monthly to Advocate the rending 248 um I'm curious how many of y'all will keep showing up until 248 is just ended raise your hand um thank you for your commitment to our community um thank you Gavin soal Jessica and Sarah for authoring and
sponsoring tonight's resolution thank you for your commitment to continue submitting resin resolutions until cc2 resends this hateful um policy um at the start of the school year one of the things we talk about in class is the difference between intent and impact intent is what you're trying
to do well what we're trying we're excuse me intend is what we were trying to do what we were hoping to achieve with our Acts for example last year Len and Craig um Justified their support of resolution 248 by talking about their benign intentions the problem we talk
about with students uh with students is that intentions and impact aren't always the same thing quite often we can have good intentions and still cause more since it passed we've clearly heard from and clearly and consistently heard from members of the trans community that
regardless of our intentions the impact of 248 was intention was harmful um however today I don't discuss the ways the policies like resolution 248 har cisgender girls those that you were claiming to try to protect um and I want to talk about the ways that those who
are harmed are particularly those who do not fit mod Marin's definition of white feminity um and so I'm curious mod um how would you propose the doe determine if a girl isgender or transgender sorry this is not a question it's not an interactive
so should not answer um other folks and if you could start wrapping it up would youa would you have a proposed solution we're not we're not it's not interactive people should not be answering um that I would be curious to anyone in this Council who does not
choose to um 248 tonight to please explain during your speaking time how you would choose to determine whether a a girl isgender transgender particularly after Ali spoke so wonderfully um about the ways that it's impossible you're really
and the ways that can harm girls such as those in Utah and other places are boxer at the Olympics who get accused of being trans not again defition of whitein thank you thank you thank
you thank you everybody appreciate and we have a second public speaker session in a little bit if you'd like to sign up the sign a sheet for that is back as well so we move on to the president's report next right report of the president so good evening everybody I
hope everybody had a great first couple of weeks School uh a special welcome to all of the new families uh in District 2 whether you transferred in to from another District or uh move to the neighborhood or your child is just
starting uh 3K or prek I would also like to acknowledge that we have just begun hispan Hispanic Heritage Month and I'm looking forward to the many celebrations around us we have a number of new schools hosting 3K which I was very excited to hear about I'm looking
forward to superintendent Maguire on report to report more on that and how that went in his report on the Middle School front we have new programs in four our four Zone schools I SP spoke to several new sixth graders in that program at Peru and I got the so far so
good answer which I take as a good sign and is probably as much as I'm ever going to get out of the sixth grader uh there have been some questions on the wait list for the middle schools particularly the non-screen programs uh which uh we will get to uh when we get
to the superintendence report I know several council members have some questions on that Middle School tours for the fall 2024 admission cycle have begun we place the link to that schedule on our homepage and it's also on the district 2 website as well there a uh
spread spre that you can show uh the doe tweeted about a new school bus app where you can check on your school child school bus on schools.nyc.gov school bus app we'd love to hear your feedback please email us at info@ cc2.0
issue for many families uh so please let us know if you are having any problems or actually any feedback at all good or bad uh he's not here tonight but I would like to congratulate Gregory fauler who has been the chair of the panel for educational policy for the past year on
his selection to continue in that role I've spoken to him a few times over the past year and I know he's a person who deeply cares about our kids and about our school system I as I mentioned earlier we're very excited to have the two new members with us tonight Alexandria Andra and lla
we're excited for them to join us finally I want to acknowledge someone our longtime family leadership coordinator Jennifer greenl greenl retired last month words can out express our gratitude and appreciation to her she has served many roles in this
District Parent PTA president advocate for new schools including leading the charge for the building of elro many years ago and family leadership coordinator I've gotten to know her over the past year and not now that I'm on the CC and even before that when I
was PTA president at my school I got to rely upon her wisdom and guidance I'm going to ask Len Silverman just to speak about her for a couple of minutes if you'll indulge us as Len has worked with both with her for many years in his role as council member PTA president of I
think about 32 different schools and head of the D2 president Council when so um please forgive my lack of eloquence I didn't prepare anything um in writing but I'm sorry thought it was forgive me I'm
sorry you know Jennifer's retirement is a happy thing and and that's that's what we should remember you know I just want to say I I well we all if you've had these experiences when it comes to education you're lucky if you find someone a teacher somebody that really
means a lot to you that really made a difference um I think we've all met those kind of people maybe for some of us it was an elementary school teacher for some of us was a middle school teacher might have been a principal even I'll say a superintendent on occasion but um there are those people that come
into our lives and they they do their job so well and they do it with such dignity and they do it with such um they just do it so well that you're just in awe and Jennifer green blad is truly one of those people
uh I first had the opportunity to meet her 13 years ago when I was the vice president at um of the PTA at the lower lab and I very quickly realized that if there was ever an issue that you needed to have an answer to in District 2 she
was the person to go to Jennifer has always been there and has always been an amazing resource for people in our district for the families in our district if anyone had an issue if anyone came to meet as a PTA member or as a parent and said hey can you help me
out L if I wasn't able if I didn't know the answer I would say I don't know the answer but I know who does and I would send them to Jennifer um I I am not a religious person but I want to use a religious term here and
that's the word blessed because I think we're really blessed to have had Jennifer in this District I'm sorry I apologize but I can't be to tell you how much she needs to me how much she's meant to the
families in this district and anybody who ever worked with her what a great job she's done Jennifer I don't know if you're out there watching this but I just want to let you know that we are so grateful and thankful for all that you've done we're so amazed to have had the opportunity to spend that you spent
over I think 20 years in our district I know she was involved with um being PTA president she was instrumental in getting Eleanor roselt high school for our district and if we're lucky hopefully maybe somewhere down the line there'll be somebody with with even half
per talent and capabilities um so it's big shoes to fill for our next family leadership coordinator but from the bottom of my heart love you Jennifer and we will miss you sorry try a sad movies too I just want
you to know thank you thank you ly I Echo every one of those sentiments 1,00% sorry we're going to move now to the uh report of the district superintendent uh
Chancellor sorry superintendent McGuire sorry sorry well maybe not sorry I don't [Laughter] know and please say something to get me out of this emotional stage um
yeah I'll do my best uh I also just want to Echo um the things that you said uh that uh you know Jennifer when I got this job she talked about the number of superintendent that she had trained over the years um that's part of the language
that she was using was training and I think I think she worked for 13 different superintendent in the 21 years that she uh worked uh in her role and so um I'm very appreciative with all that I've learned from her as well so um
thank you so much everybody for having me tonight and lawyer and I am superintendent of Community School District 2 uh and we are going to be covering a few things today as we're kicking off the start of the school year which has been a very very smooth and very very exciting start of the school
year we have a bunch of new programs uh we have a bunch of new classes we have a bunch of new school leaders and so we're just really excited uh for this coming school year um so we're going to talk a little bit about um some of the coaching and professional work that we're doing a
quick overview of State exams 3K we will touch on our Civics for all program as well as our new program that you all will be invited to called School Spotlight visits I'll explain that a little bit talk a little bit about school safety and culture and then of
course some key dates ahead but just that you heard tonight from five of our new principles um but paired with those new new principles um in the district we got five new princip we also have 10 new assistant principles that are working here in the district uh and they are
doing uh a really amazing job as we're picking off the school year we are providing them with job embedded coaching providing them with weekly office hours uh we are visiting their schools very very regularly and making sure that they are um up the uh code on
all of the things that we needed to do to make sure that we have a safe and uh and productive start of the school year and that's going to continue throughout the year as well you heard so much about uh their experience in the schools from which they came um those School
communities helped us to select the um interim acting principles they will go through a formal interview process called the C30 process that's interviews that we do uh to hire a new principal in the district um but they're off to a great start we're really excited about
that as well as the 10 new assistant principles um that are here in the district we providing them with direct support as well pairing them with an experien um assistant principal and making sure that we are working uh with them to walk through classrooms to make
sure that all of our classrooms in the district are of the quality uh that we want to see in every single school um you've heard a little bit about NYC reads and NYC solves uh this is the new kindergarten through fifth
grade reading program and NYC sols is the Middle School pilot program that we are a part of uh 6 through 8 uh working on embedding mathematical shifts across our middle schools um as well as adopting the illustrative Mathematics
Curriculum as a part of that um through NYC reads and NYC solves we are paired with two different organizations uh that are providing us with coaches that are working directly with teachers as well as school leaders and helping to create materials that we can use in workshops
with amilies in the broader Community um they are spending time directly in classrooms providing workshops for parents families teachers uh and they are just doing a fantastic job as we're starting off the school year as well we
also are doing as a part of this work um a process of implementation reviews um we as a district team will be visiting all of the classrooms across the district twice a year uh we'll be looking at the implementation in a
structured way of both our wi wisdom curriculum and our illustrative math curriculum making sure that in literacy we are adhering to the instructional gifts that have been adopted by New York City uh in literacy as well as in
metics the New York State exams came out uh we received the results um just a few years a few weeks ago um so overall our Proficiency in literacy did move from 79% to 6
76% um and uh we think that um this is a little bit of a um a shift we have a a slightly different population of students that are here in our district over the past few few couple of years um
multilingual Learners uh English language Learners they are exempt from taking the ELA exam for one year but then after that they do take the ELA exam we think that we want to focus on helping to build the English proficiency of our English language Learners and our
multilanguage Learners uh over this coming year uh we did see some strong performance however for with our students with disabilities across the district as well as um evidence of our strong foundational literacy in our
early grades uh in the third grade we saw strong growth and as you probably heard many of us talking about over the past couple of uh the past year it's that foundational literacy that those literacy skills that kids need in kindergarten through second grade was a
real Focus for us uh and so we saw some incredible growth in third grade uh foundational literacy and that showed up uh in state test scores for our third graders so students with disabilities are growing our third graders are growing uh we are now going to shift as
we are moving into the year we have a new population of students who are going to be taking the state exams for the very first first time uh these are students who are learning English uh and so we're excited about the capacity that we have as a district with new teachers who are bilingual with a a new strong
curriculum that we're implementing across the district and strong professional learning in mathematics we did grow um we grow from 78% proficient to 80% proficient uh and again as you heard last year we really centered a lot of
our professional work in Middle School uh on mathematics um our Middle School our Proficiency in math in Middle School moov from 79% to I'm sorry 76% to 79% and our elementary school proficiency across the district
remains steady again we saw strong growth with our students with disabilities um here in the district um so we believe that there is evidence through these scores that our initiatives are paying off we are seeing
growth in the early grades in literacy we are seeing growth in Middle School uh and so these are these are the two areas in which we focus that we believe that we can continue to have an impact on our students here in ch um just a couple of places to
highlight uh in the first box here we have three schools that we really were tracking around uh the develop implementation of foundational literacy programs we saw some incredible growth in third grade uh we also in Middle School um there were four schools here
that we wanted to look at specifically these were schools that were using the illustrative Mathematics curriculum for the very first time uh when these students took uh the exam in sixth grade um we saw these proficiency levels at
ms1 131 126 2117 and 289 and then as seventh graders uh they produced uh growth that was really quite exceptional um and we saw this growth again across the district so um overall we are seeing
strong growth again in early literacy um with our students with disabilities with our Focus schools we are going to continue our programming supports for our English language Learners in the coming um school year developing bilingual supports for all of our students who hired more bilingual
Educators uh as well and there's stronger support for families that are not learning but F EX don't speak English across our district there's a question about um 3K and we really had the opportunity to expand 3K uh across the district which
we advocated for we were very excited when mayy Adams allocated additional funds um for 3K and prep programs um that really was uh something that we had been calling for for quite some time um and so we saw a growth of almost 200
seats in 3K across the district last year I think that we ended I'm sorry we ended the admission cycle in the fall uh in prek with uh a waiting list of almost 400 families um so this year we were able to provide 195 seats including a
brand new prepaid Center on uh in the Murray Hill area of our district uh we also work to make sure that every single family that wanted the prek or pre seat had access to one another we wanted to make sure our goal is to continue to expand 3K
uh in our district so that families uh have access to prepay and prepay in District Two this year we are starting a new program called School Spotlight visits we had a few of these uh last year but this year we're going to really expand
that we're doing a school Spotlight visit every month to one of our schools the goal of a school Spotlight visit is to bring community members into schools to be able to see the work that we are doing the initiatives we are engaged in directly in our classrooms and hear from
the community members that are implementing them our first school Spotlight is to PS2 212 which is also called Midtown West um at two at Midtown West this school is focused on uh engaging All Families uh in the work of
their school so on um October 10th CC president craigin as well as council member Gavin Hy Who is the liaz to Midtown West we're going to invite all the aison uh to the schools where we are
doing um School Spotlight visits we will hear from the principal we will hear from some teachers uh they will be bringing their PTA as well as their SLT we'll be hearing from some students and we'll be visiting classrooms um so this is a part of what we want to do with our school Spotlight visits our goal is to
take what we're doing inside the classrooms turn it inside out and really give you the chance to see what we're doing uh we are continuing our Civics for all work and we thought it was really important to um share this tonight because we have seen this huge expansion
in the number of schools that are participating in Civics for all last year we had just a few there a small handful that we're doing this year uh we have 15 schools that are participating in the um in the participatory budgeting
part of civics for all we are now a c for all district which is really really exciting and the mission again for civics for all is to cultivate civically ready students across New York City Public Schools K12 by collaborating with teachers education leaders and partners
um we see this as a great way for us to expand opportunities for students to share their voice uh for students to get involved in school-based decision making for school-based DEC decision making for school students to really show how it is that they are involved in their schools
and in their classrooms um and to create real partnership between both the children and the adults who are in schools so we're really excited about Civic for all uh another one of uh the Chancellor's initiatives in the
coming we're also working to strengthen uh and develop a positive culture we want to make sure that all of our children are welcomed and affirmed in our schools and that daily C classroom Practice Center student voice we see this as an extension of both our morning
meeting and advisory programs that we have across our district uh we also see this as a part of our new curriculum really centered at the heart of both our wh wisdom curriculum that you've been hearing about and the illustrative math
is student voice uh the ideas the complexity of different tasks is is made Rich by how it is that our students are um participating in these in these curriculum and so it's a very exciting way of seeing how it is that is building
a strong positive culture and climate in our schools uh we are also through school Spotlight visits we want to expand opportunities for families to be to serve as partners uh we are also working to expand uh methods by which we are
engaging our families uh in timely communication that is a real Focus for us um we know that some families or some schools are the district have great structures for how it is that they're communicating both weekly through newsletters websites and activities like
that uh we also know that some schools have been really on top of communicating timely uh events and activities that are important for families to know uh we want to make sure that families are aware of everything that is happening in their schools uh on time uh and that
they have the best information that they need in order to make decisions about their kids and then again we are growing and expanding uh Citywide practices one of the tools that our city has uh that our city school system has implemented over
the past couple of years is a gamma system which is a Citywide text messaging system by which principles assistant principles uh superintendents can send out messages to the broader Community uh we want to make sure that
we're utilizing those tools in order to get families information um about their schools their kids and above the district and just in wrapping up we have a few items that we want to share ahead uh we have our fall parent teacher conferences which are coming up this
week and next um as you may be familiar our students participate in a screener uh academic screeners both in literacy and Mathematics uh that continues through mid October our schools are closed October 3rd and 4th for Russ sh
and October 14th for Italian Heritage and people's day and November 1st for the first time our schools will be closed for toal uh and with that uh I just want to share that tonight I am joined by
Suzanne Sanchez uh and Johanna Rodriguez from our Central special education office I know over the past couple of months uh we have had resolutions that have centered on servicing and supporting students with disabilities uh Johanna and uh Suzanne have uh join are
joining me tonight and they are also able to take questions if you have answer work tting testing testing testing this one doesn't work at
all that off maybe I think if you shut your yeah testing I think that's what it is we have two on at the same time I think that's what the issue is yeah um thank you superintendent Maguire
um I will take any questions from the council I just want to ask one question to start off with on illustr unillustrated math we've seen a lot and this a lot of coverage about how teachers hatte it this is press coverage for various teachers don't like it
parents don't like it not necessarily from our district it's just you president across the city seems according to you where we've implemented it's going well in our district could you talk about that talk about why our district would be different than any
other District why it might be working or is it not completely working in our district or you know if you can just comment on some of that that would be helpful this District 2 has the best teachers the best schoolers the best students uh no no other reason why um
we do have those amazing folks who are here inside our community um but also I do want to just give a shout out um to both our school-based professional development teams and our district based professional development teams um they have done an incredible job of being
there for teachers whenever it is that they have needed it um we have rushed to schools when a teacher has questions about curriculum or instructional practices we have held monthly events for all of our teachers across the district around professional development
um I also want to make an important distinction between uh the Citywide practice which has um been centered really on the high school implementation of algebra this is the first year that um District 2 is a part of the NYC
solves program which is extended to sixth through 8th grade um so really we're comparing a little bit of apples to oranges different groups of kids uh different groups of teachers uh in different in different practices that being said um anytime that you do
something new um that hasn't been done before it is a little bit scar um I'm just very very confident in the work that we are doing as a district to be able to support our teachers and school leaders and as I always tell our principles that they uh we know that
they have incredible resources inside their experienced teachers coaches smart uh and academically focused um School leaders and that they are utilizing those resources to make sure that their teachers are doing well uh and then kids are doing well so I do
think it is going well in our district um and we're continuing that uh in the second year of our districtwide roll out um we do also have a few schools across our district who are now going to be in their third and fourth year um White
Middle School Baro Middle School lab Middle School Middle School they all have actually been using the curriculum for a little bit longer so we have been able to use those classrooms um as pilot classrooms and brought all of our teachers there to see that work in action and that's been a really uh great
strength to have thank you thank you and thank you and my other question before I turn it over to my council members is something that weal that we touched upon uh and it was touched upon tonight uh on the disparity of the biology region between among schools in the district if you
could talk touch upon that I should it off that's what it is like T um so we have uh committed to providing biology regions in every single one of our middle schools we have expanded that
program to every single Middle School in our district um some of our schools are taking a little bit longer ramp to make sure that that's accessible to all students but I would love to hear more from families um that are interested in having this expansion implemented uh
this year we are we are welcoming any student in the district to participate in the biology region exam um and so that program as well as supports that are in the school will be open to all students um but we have expanded biology
to every single school and we're going to continue to make sure that that's a strong program moving forward than thank you thank you uh I will ask any members of the council if they have any questions for the superintendent the deputy superintendent
or our special guest that came with him about the special education services uh Middle School wait lists I have been getting a lot of questions from parents over the past few days because uh there has been virtually no movement on Middle
School weight list particularly at the formerly Street schools F lab Clinton East Side Middle School and this is a big discrepancy from how much the weight list moved last year and I have some a
recap of some of those numbers that I wanted to share there of particular importance so there was Zero students accepted off the way Sal zero students accepted off the weight list at e side M three spots
movement on the weight list in Clinton and two spot movement at lab middle school and um and you probably know some of these numbers from last year but 60 kids approximately got off the General Ed weight list for salt last year it was
I think around 40 at lab and probably similar numbers at at other schools uh the concern that parents have expressed to me is that there has been no information or transparency around what has happened this year and how
different it is compared to last year and um even people who reached out to the administration at these particular schools hav't got and the part of that is not just the transparency but also the predictability you know people are making some decisions here based on what's next for
their kids in middle school and if they're not number four on a wait list here they're like okay well I have an idea what's going to happen for next year and that was up with so um I don't know that you can answer these questions but would like to get some answers as to
what happened here why there was um such an order of magnitude difference uh there was a change in the policy and if you can't answer those how we can go about getting some yeah um first of all I just want to acknowledge that none of those schools
are extrem and they all all have weight lists um which is really exciting um the other thing that I also want to acknowledge is that every single one of those schools um is full um we can pull kids off of the weit lists when there
are seats to offer but if there are no seats to offer then we can't take kids off of the weight list we don't manage the weight lists ourselves that process is managed by our Central enrollment team but I really want to encourage
families that might be seeking a different School than the one that their children are currently attending uh that they look at other schools in the district that might have seats um because there are fantastic schools across our district that do have room in middle school I'm sorry in sixth grade
or S grade whatever grade that is that they might be applying to um but we can only take kids off the wait list when we do have seat availability um and we don't currently have that in uh many of the schools
uh anecdotally what I will say um from parents at La that there were names read out in home rooms of children that we know who chose not to enroll but hadn't let the um the administration know and the number of names read out in
the home rooms for the no show students exceeded two spots so there was seemed like there was some concern among parents because it didn't make sense now there may be a very valid answer to that but I think it would be helpful um and
and I'm happy to talk with uh the president of the council here if we could have someone from enrollment who could answer some questions that we could put together um in terms of why this may have been so different from last year to give some parents some
understanding of what's happened if there was some change in policy or there was some other reason that other people were accepted uh ahead of the people on the weight list yeah well I I will communicate that to them that you have made that request um I'll also just say that the
enrollment period is still open uh the waight list process is still available um families uh may still move into uh vacant spots that are currently in the district it does take some time for uh
class lists to be finalized um but they should continue to stay engaged with my schools uh and monitor that list as well as look at other schools that do have seats if they are that was my B
oh a strategy Al no but if they're looking okay I'm on uh they have been told uh parents have been told that the weight lists are closed and those those schools are no longer accepting students that's different than what you're saying
tonight but I I feel like there's a a lot of um either misinformation or lack of information we really like to have someone from to answer some questions thank you hello testing okay uh thank you and maybe you and I can talk to trab Kelly
about potentially coming next mon moment um I'll come to you in a second uh just um just but we can talk offline but there are some comments uh going back to the the web your access of region that that all students are getting access to it so perhaps you and I can talk offline
with pre uh the rep over there uh to get the Bott get to the bot there seems to be disconnecting what you're saying and what some parents or families are saying in the chat so uh we should have that that conversation um go you
okay perfect so um something I was talking about earlier and I I obviously commend your work in you know raising test sces on making you know changing the curriculum to make our students um you know score higher but something that I flagged was that there's a huge discrepancy between schools right so we
have schools that have like 59% math proficiency rates whereas other schools have 90% right so can you speak more to what district to and you know correct me this is not in your perview or this is you know Way Out Of Reach here but um what is District 2 doing to you know are
they taking a more holistic or individualized approach to raise scores and make it you know so that there's not these huge 40% discrepancies between you math rates at schools um so what we want to do is that we want to raise proficiency and
achievement for all kids regardless of how it is that they entered the school um all I can say is that um many of the proficiency rates um are uh different elementary schools um have different
rates of proficiency um and um some of them uh uh exist in areas of the district that have lots of resources um have long histories of uh students who have performed well well um we know that achievement often tracks with uh
different things like students who are learning English or uh socioeconomic background um some of our schools exist in parts of the district um where those things are strong some of the school our schools exist in places where it is not um but regardless of how students enter
our district uh regardless of how it is we enter our schools we want to make sure that they are growing as much as they possibly can one of the things that we are doing with adopting a common curriculum across our district in both literacy and Mathematics um is that we
really want to make sure that um the best practices that are associated with these curricula are available to all schools um in some of our schools we have um teachers who have been teaching for 15 20 years so real Master Teachers
uh in other schools we have teachers who are or Hance of them are newer to the profession um so there's a lot of different factors but we think that one of the things that can help to mitigate these different factors uh is by having common curricular common
practices thank you are there any question counc thank you superintend um I think some of us have communicated with you about this already but we've been hearing some stories about certain minimum requirements minimum hour
requirements for for sets and I wonder if you can offer some some color for what okay I have been informed that the policy of practice around that has changed I have only become aware of that
very very recently um I do know that uh I taking that question along with our Central Special Education team to look at that uh and so that we can provide clear information to families um of students disability specifically um but also to our schools to make sure that
they are in compliance with that stat do you have anything okay um any other questions from the members of the council I have one uh Council members have thank you maybe yes um the 2024 New
York City School survey should arise uh in student reported bullying and harassment Citywide and I was wondering if you could share numbers for district 2 specifically um yes I will come back in October with um some more specific data
those data are available um online um if you want to look at um uh any school survey um from any school you can see what those rates are but I can provide a uh overall rate of bullying whether it's increase or
decrease um at October when when you when you do come back in October I really' like to get some more data um specifically on the
of baying with respect to issues of waste religion Etc we talked about that at one of our prior meetings um last school year we got that data there are a lot of there's a lot of anecdotal and um you know quantitative data around bully increase of bullying particularly around
girls of color and particular students I'd really love to hear more about that as it relates to D2 in particular but just your sense of what's happening in New York City Public Schools thank you um we will make note of that um and make
sure that we come back with that specific data we might not have anything for 24 25 yet but hopefully we don't have anything yet um but we can come back with data from 20 the 2023 2024 thank you thank you thank you hello
testing thank you and and this might be something we should definitely speak about it next month but this might be a topic for your committee Jessica I mean I think just because to do a deep dive and really give it the time and attention that it deserves because it it I don't know if we can do justice in a
in a short presentation just a suggestion no that that was kind of the idea thank you see we we think we're on the same plane um I do have one final question um do we have in our district
many new families from other countries you know migrants we have a lot and how are we supporting these students now because we've we've learned a lot over the last couple of years and what worked hopefully we've learned a lot over the last couple years in what works and what
doesn't hopefully um and do we expect a lot of those families to be moved around because of the shelter room I assume uh I think you you made it clear that you were uh referencing students and families that were seeking
Asylum country and not some mov from England to yeah um so uh yes we have made some really strong progress I think in building the systems that we need in our schools to be able to serve these
families well um as I mentioned uh in my presentation earlier we have hired more bilingual staff we have opened more uh programs to serve enl and multilingual Learners um across the district um we
are looking uh especially at our new curricula and thinking about how it is that we are making sure that those curricula are meeting the needs of our students who are not learning English uh across the district we have um done a
ton of different things to help to support students and families um who are living in temporary housing uh not just with basic needs but making sure that they have access to all of the resources that are in schools making sure that they have access to after school
programs uh this past summer we served uh close to 3,000 kids um in our summer Rising program many of whom uh were from families uming Asylum um so we have done uh uh a good job I think uh as a
district um to be able to support um families uh that are coming uh with such great needs um but also with such great strengths that they've added across the our districts um they have really enriched our school communities um and
uh this the stories that uh we are telling or that are being told again and again and again um the little girl who has become chess champion actually tends this school um uh 75 um and uh she's just one of like many many stories
that um are being shared across the district uh about how uh the new families are really touching and growing our school communities thank you thank you are there any other questions for the superintendent or or his
team okay thank you very much I appreciate your report and thank you uh for your team to come you want do you want to say would you like to say anything good okay you're you're always welcome very happy thank you for coming tonight
we appreciate it I know it's not not always easy on a Wednesday night thank you uh and thank you to the two deputies foring us as well um next is the report of next is report of committees are there any reports of any
committees okay uh the next is discussion of resolutions before we get to the discussion of resolutions just a reminder after that is the second public speaker session if you'd like to speak in the second public in the second session uh please sign up in the back uh
if you can't find it Victor will help you find the uh the section so we will go to a discussion of resolutions does anybody wish to discuss resolution 259 resolution to affirm cc2 support of NY
cps's guidelines to support transgender and gender expansive students and resend resolution number 248 would anybody like to speak to that I would just like to say that this resolution CL is childish a waste of time and Cas
with many of the resolutions since I've been on this Council it is devoid of any Focus or efforts on improving education or academic achievement for the children in thank you counc member love anybody
else wish to discuss resolution 250 go ahead okay you want to pass over council member healing um I want to say it's it's never childish to focus on the well-being the health and the safety of our
children no no child should have to negotiate their gender identity with a committee of strangers no parent should have to take their child before that we know that um we
know that sports are important to kids but they're important for the sake of inclusion and we know that um we know what what this resolution is about a res I mean we know what resolution 248 was about resolution 248 calling for a
committee to review the guidelines a committee that includes evolutionary biologists this is not a committee about girl sports that is a committee to Aras transgender kids from our schools and
so we need to resend this and we will bring this resolution to resend it every month every month it's not childish to fight back against bus and we will fight back
just give it a second put it up to tce so just very quickly I also want to address's comment about this being a waste of time this council's only charge is to listen to the community to sit
here for two and a half to three hours once a month to hear Community input to listen to the voices of our families our young people our Educators and act and represent accordingly the waste of time the reason that this council's time is
being wasted month after month after month after month is that there are certain council members here who do not understand the concept of representation since April March we have had dozens
dozens of community members come and speak directly to us about this resolution so people do not want to waste this community's time or this council's time pass today's resolution and let's be done with
[Applause] it anybody does anybody wish to come in I CC I left out Grand Sandy and she just mentioned that in the last six months or
so dozens of people have coming to speak and that is true but I'd like to remind everyone how many students are in public schools and include the parents and family members of all of
those and let's compare those numbers so you're assuming that whoever decides to come down here represents what everyone believes that is um pretty odd thing to think dozens of people
represent oh I just want to um well what I want to say is nice to be back and um and I'm particularly pleased that our our um that our judicial system does such a good job with a robust and
healthy defense of first spe rights because it's incredibly important for all of the people here those that agree with me and those that don't that's what I would um like to do in terms of addressing this resin
resolution and all the ones that have come previously and all the ones that um uh are going to keep coming is to say that there is a real lack of good faith in the representation of what was asked for um
when this resolution was introduced council member Healey said something to the effect of um not seeking input from students but if you actually read the resolution that was passed in March it explicitly said that female students who
were not included in the original um formulation these guidelines should be consulted that's true inclusivity even if it might render an outcome that some people don't like I'll also say this I have extended my offer to have real conversations with anyone in this room
and I'll extend it again I'm happy to talk to folks but there are some conflicts that are real when it comes to sports and the compelled speech of asking people to say things that they
don't um um agree with as a price of admission to getting an education and I think we can have that conversation I'm not saying that it's easy to come to consensus on those sort of issues but I do think the idea that there's only one
right perspective and only one way and everybody else who thinks differently is a bully is um certainly simplistic and it flies in the face of what has been um some robust conversations in other countries and other school districts and
other communities where people have taken the time to really look at the actual evidence um and engage it I haven't heard in the months of of push back to this resolution I haven't heard anyone engage in good faith about what
it means when you're a female athlete who loses your position or your um scholarship or your medal or your your record to a male athlete because of the inclusion of trans
students um and I understand it is certainly not violence to not think that biological sex is not real um it is real and it um it is not violence to have a different opinion than other people in room okay okay you'll everybody there'll
be a public second public section public speaker section sorry like long day for me uh and everybody will get a chance to speak I promise everybody who wish just to speak will get their time to speak as long as you sign up as long as you sign up and I'll I'll just wrap it up by saying
that um in order for this for this Council or any Council to function um you present your resolution you discuss it and you vote on it and we did that in March um being unhappy it's funny to me to hear the
word bully because what's going on is an attempt to bully um council members I'm certainly not easily bullied but I will say that the bullying that is being aimed at council members by saying how dare you pass a resolution that we disagree with we're going to come here
every month and complain about it it's also heard by people outside of this room and it's certainly hurt by the young women who think that Sports should be single sex that there are access to spaces and the hardfought women's rights
that that many women's movements over the years have produced those women don't have a welcoming or inclusive space those young people to come and speak here and I think that when we saw on my perz speaking here earlier today and people brought sound machines and shouted out that her organization was a
hate grof that's not inclusive and that's um speech that does bully people and it has bullied the people who want to have this conversation out of this room and so I'd ask folks to reflect on that question please no there's no
you'll have the opportunity in the public session but you didn't let her answer the question during the public session earlier there's there's no it's not this is not this is a business session um okay hi um I know I'm obviously new and it was really nice to kind of hear
every these thoughts um I just want to say I am a female student I'm a high school student District 2 um I've done Sports I've run cross country CH and field I really enjoy it um I would say I'm the best of it but I really enjoy it
um and I also would say that what really struck me the I went and I uh was I was in the audience at one of the meetings in May and honestly what really struck me was I was seeing these really young kids and
they were coming up and they're speaking and they were being so brave and you know I Babys said I Che your siblings and those these kids are like five six seven eight and like they're so brave and they're so like they're seeing trth they're so say a lot of them are trans
to themselves and I think like that and just like the reaction I saw from a lot of people was so just unkind and I don't ended up having to leave because they were crying and I I really like I don't
understand I feel like this the um resolution 248 it's kind of just saying that it's okay to kind of include the rhetoric that is making little kids get upset and I feel like if you go into a
classroom if you ask kids um if you ask kids that are playing sports if you ask me if you ask I know I'm here to kind of speak on behalf of students I not say that I'm every single student in District to um but I talk to my friends I talk to parents of kids that I babysit
I talk to kids that I babysit oh dear um but Victor can you I just think like let's not like have this rhetoric where we make KS cry I think that it's so important let's just respect kids on face Sports just
face Sports I know personally likee I'm not here to like push an agenda I'm kind of just here to kind of advocate for what I've seen um in the district and what I like heard students say again sorry if that was not the most
eloquent um a little nervous but okay anyway [Applause] thank is anybody spoken you have a mic sorry reiterate some of that you know
we're not talking about college scholarships we're not talking about the Olympics we were talking about children in kindergarten through 8th grade that is what we talking about at this C and it is amazing whatever other political
or ideological agenda anyone else on this Council has it should not come to the point where we have children coming to our Council meetings and being treated by council members in a way that is harmful and to Charles's point about whether or
not that he hasn't heard anything about academic achievement and development children can't learn if they're harming themselves and they're killing themselves there is no achievement to be had by a child who UNS we have been
saying and reading these things for a very long time so I think it's very disingenuous to always go back to what about the math and the science these are real issues confronting you know a lot of students in our district and and the way that we sweep them under the rug is really it's it's offensive to a lot of
people in this community keep a mic over there so thank you I just I want to add you know we have seen Grand standing when it's not Grand standing and it's
not bullying to come back month after month and demand Justice and rights for your children [Applause] and that is what this that is what people in our community have demanded for their students for their families and we will keep coming back and if
you're going to hang your hat on the First Amendment and grandstand your first amendment defense give us our first amendment this is what theer we come in here and we ask for accountability room who are standing up and they bullying children they are
asking for us to have a robust conversation about our children's identity with them I don't need to have a robust conversation about my child's gender identity no one needs to have a robust conversation about their child's gender identity with you or anyone else
in this in this on this Council that's that's up to them this is bullying from this Council this council is bullying on people's parental rights they're bullying on the rights of students their human rights their rights to decide for themselves who they are and to Express that in the
way they want to express that and I mean people are going to say this over and over and over and you know it's also bullying when when people come and they ask for this simple thing of respect and people on this Council are up here with
their cell phones filming the people and the audience glaring at them it's it's disgraceful it's it's awful people have asked us again and again and it's time we listen thank you [Applause]
okay SP is there anybody else on the coun anybody who hasn't spoken so I want to give everybody an opportunity to speak is there anybody on the coun this is not is there anybody else anyway is there anybody okay then recognize
Char I believe um Gavin and others have a lack of understanding for the word bully um we had a resolution just like this one we had a debate we voted on it and the only reason we're still
discussing it is because you all choose to discuss it several people Mar and Gavin both mention the First Amendment they come down here they want to discuss it does the public speaking session they have a right to discuss it I don't think anybody ever tried to stop them from
discussing um but when you continue to put these resolutions on and to have these conversations and when the people in the public speaking session say you know R you know R the people up and say we're going to keep coming back keep coming back and then members of the council say yeah we're going to keep
doing this you do we don't care actually but again for right you have the right to do it so when I talk about not focusing on education and what's best but the majority of the kids in this District how to improve their education and give them the best opportunities we
are crowding that out and will bullying is when you say I don't that stuff matters but I refuse to talk about that stuff unless you talk about what I want to talk about that's the very definition of booking you're saying you can't talk about math or science or or how young
kids get to school unless you talk about this issue first this is the only issue that matter that is what true bullying is you get to speak you get to come down here all the time right the resolution doesn't really matter you said I said grandstanding because if it already passed the mayor
and the chancellor said they're not going to act on it he came in and said it's dead and then you still say well I want you to say that you want to uh take this resolution and uh turn it around and get rid of the previous uh
resolution resend that and go for so it's not about any AC actionable item you're telling the how many was it eight you're telling the eight people who voted for that they must change their vote so that's the problem so that is the definition of bullying and what
you're doing you're not hurting us because you're not saying if I don't change it something's going to happen to me or something's what you're saying is no other kid in this District gets to have the benefit of this Council discussing what really matters in their education until you get what you want
anything else you say is just proving my point so go to continue to prove my point we can move on to the next resolution we all going to vote now and a't waste your time again next month come back keep talking cyle repeat I just say something Qui yeah you have SP
all right thank you second give a second okay that working great um I think uh the time format for our meetings is great and space for other resolutions I for one week the dated bre for any education resolution looking forward to
a busing one maybe a region for all one stok to vote for those I did not come on here to have to relitigate Human Rights either and i' be stok Charles Bring it on Bring it on I will collaborate with you I've asked to collaborate with M on
bilingual education for my first meeting I want to discuss education that is why I am here I have a master's degree in education I going bring that up but by the way um and I work supporting people so let's do that please please don't take I we
can discuss this all we want but using it as an excuse to not bring up the resolutions that are important to you about education is not okay and I I I I want us to do more so please bring them up I'm happy to to to sign on as a
co-sponsor anytime come to me okay they're they're out there m remember the first meeting where I said can we talk about French I want bilingual French educ I want more bilingual education it's not a pie there's enough
for everybody we thinking just stop that so I'm sorry but I'm tired of that saying that we're distracting and we're not please bring them up Charles bring them up mod I'm here for it I'll take your call thank you resoltion the next resolution
okay so let's move to a discussion of resolution 26 resolution to extend eligibility cards are there any comments or discussion on that council member L um I just have a clarifying question
for any of those who sponsored it I like the idea of it but um I was already thinking one thing and then the par left mentioned something about the bus and I was just wanting to get clarification on how this would work it sounds like
there's a gap any of you who respons correctly that there's a gap because if you live outside a certain District you don't get the Omni card and or if you live with District I heard some whoever spoke about as a person that makes sense that you live within that that distance but you do
school activities outside of it and you may need you're not that makes sense but the resolution doesn't say it's making small so I may be wrong but it seems like it doesn't say so if you live in that area but you have school activities getting Omni it says all students so are
they saying just is it either simplification or just because it seems like it's across the board every student gets a card correctly if I'm wrong and if if that's the case does that mean everyone gets one all the kids get one and they use it and there's no no
parameters and controls around it so let's say a student lives within that half a mile and they're not in a sports or extracurricular activity do they still get it and no one's monitoring what they use oh I need to turn this off
oh yeah sorry I forgot that they have to be one or the other right yeah sorry yeah um you know it's written to that yes all students would get it regardless you know even if they're within that half mile because it is a designed to be available for students 365 days a year so it's actually not
just for school days and school activities um I I am I I didn't draft it this way and I was say no okay if it's not written great and feel and you feel at it like I'm here for that as well we didn't I didn't include busing because I
think that's a separate thing and I want to have that discussion separately as well um and I'm happy to partner with anybody again on the busing if you have more expertise it ain't me but I'm happy to type some stuff up so yeah that was just for everybody just so there's more
I was thinking listen just sort of what I know of certain from kids but I think there's more times where it comes up right I know that's the case I'm just thinking that there's a gap that needs to be fixed it seems like it's just like everybody all the time I think yeah my you know I think the assumption is it's
on request for those people who aren't automatically giv it I appr that and I think Clarity and is important so thank you yeah I I think this is a great resolution um you know the city of New York made decision that they were going
to give this benefit and it's a it's a significant benefit it actually is you're getting um you're giving a metro card to people and I I recognize what Charles what you're talking about the the I don't know how much monitoring there is I we've seen stories about people selling um selling their Omni
cards well I was thinking about that going that I but you know but I do think you can't draw arbitrary distinctions say Okay somebody's in I I just don't think it's set up for that and I think if do you can dra an arbitrary distinction that somebody
lives half a mile and if somebody is just within let's say you know a block closer they're not entitled to it I think there's if we're going to recognize that this is a perk or a benefit that is being given to New York City public school students it should be
given to all New York City public school students and maybe we can tweak it maybe we can work out the details in terms of enforcement um but the reality is I I think um New York City public school students should have these I think it's h it's not too much to ask for the city there's very little enforcement that I
can see in terms of um monitoring uh Gates and things to begin with so unless the city has prepared to enforce our current rules and regulations I don't see that the big deal is letting letting students have free access to the to the Subways and the
buses and and I will just just comment that um this seems to have fairly widespread support amongst other ccs and other councils I know cchs is has a uh resolution that they are looking at they will be considering about this tomorrow
night I know CCSC put something together that's very extensive that's correct yeah so I did there was a CCSC city council special education that is putting something very extensive as well so this is getting widespread support amongst uh the various councils um yeah
I I I I do just want to add one other thing there's a distinction that some of you may not be aware of that if you take a New York City public school bus you're not really supposed to be entitled to an on card and the reality is I can State this from personal experience the New
York City public school bus is not always reliable uh it is awful late uh there are many times that I've experienced just this past couple weeks where the New York City School busers are not taking anymore um the one provided by the Department of Education
was just unreliable and because of that we've had my son has had to take a public transportation so I think that distinction is also um should be made and if we don't have a reliable um private school blessing system then we certainly the student should have access
to the public school public the public transportation system if it's needed this is the last I just think now you may be I may be wrong or you may be I may be right you may be okay with this I just think that if that's the case and we make it for all kids Evin way this
going to have to be for all kids and not all public school kids because based on your arbitrary borders are landed why of course kids who go to public private kids know the resolution was for public school students but private school kids
do are issued OB cars so I just want to however I guess are a public I would say Council I yeah I would just take that because as as Sarah is saying we are a we are a public body representing New York City public school
system I think that's why okay are there any other comments or questions on the resolution yeah give it open it up and give it a second yeah y okay um sorry I'll keep this brief I know everybody kind of talked um I think this is great
I think honestly my friends and I were all really excited to get on me cards like it was like a big deal I sent a photo to my parents I I was like woohoo um I know I don't live like super far from school like I can walk but I work I babysit all kind of over the city and
that's kind my job I do extracurricular activities I know um my friend is actually here right now um she lives less than um 0.5 from school but she has work every week all the way up down and she has to do for that herself and it's
like I might not see like a lot of money but adds up if you're 16 and you know I don't know so I think this is great um yeah alls are great I'm big fan so far I've used mine today and I was like petition to make them
though I com you're also want we have a lot of students in temporary housing students that um that it really is a hardship to to pay for public transportation and I really don't think it's that much to ask
that even on weekends and I would say these Oni cards work on weekends and they're good for 24 you know 247 seven days a week so and I think that's a really great benefit and you know why shouldn't children be able to to to use
it for that reason so thank you are there any other questions or comments on this resolution for discussion okay uh we're going to move now to the second public speaker session uh Victor could you bring up the uh the
sheet we have you not minute the mic thank you all right oh hello okay our first public speaker is Ela Daniel Miss Daniels I'm terrible you
can't get the name I can't get any names right it's late we all tired it wouldn't matter if I was tired or not speaker you I got it got it I start by saying thank you to um the six members from for coalition to draft
the the um policy resolution on on cards um personally I've seen students struggle to get from school all the discussion we've had and personally I would think that public transportation should be free it's free to drive down the street you know in a car why students not get to really everybody get
to ride for free um but moving back to where we started um I wanted to respond to the conversations about bullying um I would say that the anti-bullying Alliance and its members have an agreed share definition of bullying based on Research from across the world over the
last 30 years repetitive intentional hurting of one group by another person or group when the relationship involves an imbalance of power bullying is about power Dynamic everyone on this Council has a position of
power the public challenged month after month to resend 248 may make you feel uncomfortable it may make you be on your phone while the public speaks um it make you want to not show up um but that's not bu because you're elected adults you
were the people in power the public hold you accountable is not believe it might make you feel uncomfortable but again by definition not believe um you may hold un true or hateful beliefs whatever you like whether it's F phobia white supremacy um you can attend public
schools and hold those beliefs nothing stopping you clearly nothing stopping you for being on this Council and holding those beliefs um but it's public officials in charge of a public school district when the public hold you accountable to promote ideas that harm um for promoting ideas that harm
children that is not bulli um you may not know this but I'm a science teacher and I can inform you that there is no scientific test that will group humans into two binary groups by a so-called biological sex there are as many interex people in the human
population as they red population even if it's not a majority of students girls um and so it brings me back to the question that I asked earlier and that no one addressed I am very curious how the doe how you propose that Doe determine whether
someone is CIS or trans or intersects is it just until you get accused you know would you then be subjected to having your you know have to prove yourself before a committee thanks thank you next I looks like Megan Madison yeah she lefted she left I'm
sorry sorry sorry everybody is this working all right I got here a little late tonight but I heard some things since I've been here that I want to address one as an early childhood educator childish is not an insult kids
are great also like to say that people tend to resort to insults kind of like the direct transcript of what you started to say Charles when they don't have anything better to say and I can tell that you're getting really [Music]
uncomfortable that's okay take a deep breath and do the right thing supposedly Charles you care about literacy and as a children's book author I also really care about literacy so today I brought a book with me by my
friend Linda SAR SCH and it's called we're in this together there's a a chapter I was reading today about the role that students played in adding Muslim holidays to the New York City public school calendar that didn't just happen it was
students like you and students like you and students like you who led the church to make that happen and I feel so proud and grateful that you all are here today on that side of the table and in the AUD audience your voices matter and with that I just want to say
that I believe we will win would you all practice that chant with me it goes like this I I I believe I believe I believe that we will win I believe that we will win beautiful okay this time nice and
loud like you actually believe it ready I that's it whether it's today or next month or the month after that we are not stopping until we win I'm proud of us thank you the next speaker is odius Cam
Banis um I just like toate um and expand on some of the things I said before so I was a little in eloquent I didn't have time to prepare um as I said this school board as with the entire doe its purpose is to work first and foremost towards
the education and the safety of its students I'm one of those I Rely heavily on the supports um on the supports that the D gives its trans students for my safety and my wellbeing at school I don't know what I do without it and I'm quite privileged as a trans imagine this
is like for someone who's not white for someone who goes to a school much more underfunded than sty right half of all trans people attempt to asde at some point and this number drops far lower when when trans people are afforded the support that they need and deserve the attitude of students in
my community towards resolution 248 and all the other anti-trans resolutions that have been sweeping the country is strongly opposed and trans and CIS teachers and students alike are ready to continue and expand on the mutual respect that is the basis of our
educational system you can bring in your hate speech groups and alumni to claim that they speak for the student body to claim that resolutions like 248 are the right answer that they'll protect the girls they protect the student body but that doesn't change the fact that actual students just don't feel that way
neither do the parents um and I think if the parents did feel that way if they did support the resolution they wouldn't be voting the people that supported the resolutions off of their school leadership team for a bit and as I said before students tend not to know about this kind of meeting not to want to attend it and I think that's
understandable but when they hear about what goes on they are motivated to act against the beginning policies like the one this board passed this spring one of you might remember a petition that students started they banned hundreds of signatures from students and alumni um and led to have Real Results as we've
seen um and this is kind of this a big reason why I was motivated to come here to speak today I'm here to represent those who your policies actually affect um I hate coming here and being told to
listen to to respect people um that say that people like me are rapists are predisposed to violence or dishonor this is not about sports okay do I look like that do I sound like that or any would any of you look me in the eye and say to
me the things you say about trans people on social media I'm standing here I'm trembling my chest is pound my breath is shaky and I'm scared I'm speaking from the bottom of my heart I'm being honest listen to people you so because we know what's best for us you say we can agree to disagree but we can't do that when
you disagree about our existence and our rights please ref resolution 248 and you should be ashamed of yourselves if you don't next speaker is August Gooden tting testing one two three everyone can hear me yes okay you start the touch time now hello my name is Al
good I have attended y York City Public Schools my entire life and I have two wonderful younger siblings who attend York City public schools and I understand to all of you people on this counil board that being an educator is one of the hardest jobs that anyone can do and I have complete respect for all
Educators the audience and everyone who's been involved in public education but you have to understand that as an educator you are not being bullied you are being held accountable by the people you serve it is not bullying for them to discuss concerns or grievances they have
with any decision to make and is not bullying them to repeatedly bring up those grievances that is why for example is legally required that you have all that you have that people like happy home Eric Adams have public faing emails and you could call their offices because
public servants are required to be accessible to the people they sered and to hear about the Grievances that are brought up with them I understand it feels uncomfortable but is not bullying bullying is repeated harassment and belittlement on the basis of various characteristics is not bullying for
someone can repeatedly bring up grievances with you for example if you owee money to a bank it is not bullying for them to repeatedly send you a bill in the mail be like go check it it's overdue it's overdue is overdue that is simply being held responsible for the gr you made the party as I've said Ed and
is also not compelled speech for educators to be told and guidelines of how to treat students whether that be on the B of gender identity or religion Educators have always had compell teach it's the reason the teacher can't say go yourself to a student when they piss them off because there's ways that
educators are expected to behave because they set the example children go to school not just to learn math or reading or science children go to school to learn that what is acceptable to be treated and what is acceptable to behave in a workplace a professional environment around others and it does
not teach them how to be paid or how to act in a workplace if they learn that it's okay for people with power to disrespect them to call them rude names and to belittle them on characteristic they had no control over it you cannot it is not against teaching literacy or
math to also teach that you to teach them respect and keep some safety that is what is the basis of being able to learn in the first place thank you before I call the next speaker I would just ask that members please for speakers please refrain from using
profanity this meeting is being um broadcast online as well we we could have miners uh watching the broadcast so please um the next speaker is deid Gentile um father of two public my name is DAV
father of two public school students I send my children to public school because I don't want them to be taught by a priest I don't want them to be taught by a rabbi I don't want them to be taught by
anama I do not believe that humans have souls and I do not believe humans have gender Souls I believe there are two Sexes I believe that there are infinite personalities Expressions Etc I believe
the society needs to become more tolerant of those infinite expressions and personalities Etc but I do not believe that there is gender period I don't think it
exists I also think that we're going to lose I think we need to seed ground linguistically on man woman and gender just SE it just bankrupt it it's gone and close ranks put a mo around male
female and sex and many of them may they have actual meaning this is reties Last Stand you guys should hold fast do well but you're going to lose because this is a secular cult and it is
growing right so again I send my children to public school because I thought that it wasn't parial there's a chance of it still not being parochial but if I had to bet money i' bet money that we were going to lose and
that things like objective reality will die at the service of this ever growing secular delusional cult I oppose this resolution I don't even know the number of it I oppose it
um you know what I mean like we don't have it's not discriminatory to defer to reality I am not 64 it don't look like Jason lamoa you your that's what it is thank
you the next speaker is Michelle steinm two quick comments it's a parent of an eth grader geing up to the petrifying high school application process number one is regarding the shs the exam currently public school students take the exam 18 days earlier
than private school students and uh I would like to put it out there I think this should be reversed as private school students don't need the extra 18 days necessarily after taking a $3,000 plus prep course and the uh some public school students can use the extra time
to watch their K Academy videos and work out of the um the practice book secondly High School tour I just started signing up for High School tours and I'm surprised to find many are at 9:00 a.m. 10: a.m. or 3 p.m. and I was under the
impression that students are supposed to also be attending these and I'm not sure how that happens do they skip school I'm not quite sure and also working parents a lot of public school parents are hourly employees they're not necessarily getting paid during this time we need
they can't take all time to go and see the tours and they're missing out and I wish that many more of them were held on weekend or later in the evening thank you next speaker is Mo M was I'm planning on speaking again this evening um but after hearing of the
board members speak I just wanted to stand up and say a few things and I want to thank thank you for sharing your EXP exp erience and your strength and your hope because you are on this board you are sitting next to people who are listening
to you and who are voting little inside of you and so I really appreciate you sharing that you don't speak with the members but you do speak on behalf of yourself and your friends and that matters um so thank you I want to say you know to Charles love this isn't
attack but you say that we come into these meetings right almost as if we're infiltrating them and like that it's bullying right you're shaking your head no but honey that is what you said and the thing is I work with those parents and they're scared and they're having panic attacks
at home over their trans kids I don't have to look at you if you're going to do that that's okay but they are scared and they're having panic attacks over the summer I worked with them in individual sessions they're sending their kids to All Trans and gender non-conforming Camp so that they can get
that exposure and that safety safe adults there were parents in the room do even mean that left and they gave me a hug on the way out because they can't take it their fans have texted me before they are clear they are part of your schools even if they're not here that's why you have activist groups that show
up on behalf of them who feel like that we've got our nervous systems ready to show up for them you say that it's bullying bullying is violence and when we talk about violence if you were to Google what it means to
misgender what it means to call somebody who TRS not TR a simple Google AI will let you know the mental health effects that will have on time on people again and again and again it wears a thin it's
starting to wear me thin since spring I wasn't on the verge of tears and St I'm like starting to get worn out by this and I will come back after every for every CC meeting and it's not to bully you I'm not in your comment section
thank you it's because every Rights Movement they didn't stop until they were seen and they were heard and they were loved and they were cared for and they were held and so we will for these kids the last thing I want to say is
that you think we're being disrespectful when your members speak bring against G against groomers these other people when you hear us making noises singing coughing it's us getting creative to drown out the violence also hurts the
activist groups we go home and cry we go home and we go home and relive our childhoods and lastly I do want to say this I know on the clock could you wrap it up this isn't thank you this isn't a matter of a flavor of ice cream you know that one it's not that like I like PE
ice cream and you like chocolate these are our lives and these are your sorry it's been almost three minutes now that's it the next speaker is Ali Blake again my name is Ali Blake and I am a querian trans educator and education scholar joining the
overwhelming majority of the public urging the council to pass 259 in support of trans and gender expensive Youth and really all youth in resending the racist transphobic resolution 248 earlier I qu to how efforts such as 248 lead to violating the bodly autonomy
of all and especially black youth and trans youth resolution 248 is racist and transphobic violates the Bly and self-determination of all and is frankly creepy to say the least council member love talked about resolution 259 being
childish spoken as if that were a disc as we've heard in this session already for someone p with supporting children using childish as a disc shows just how much you regard children which seems to be not much as youth Educators and
families continue to share many actual children in the district have supported their trans peers so yes resolution 259 does align with children and their bodily autonomy and self-determination and in that way it is childish proudly
and with respect and dignity for children now I want to share a message with trans present here in person watching online who may watch this recording later I'm so glad you're here at this meeting and also more generally
in this world inviting all of us into a more liberated more playful more imaginative world I love making those worlds together and I plan to do so for the rest of my life I so look forward to witnessing what you do the Beautiful the
messy the boring the extravagant the fumbling the uncertain you should be able to be all of that and more I also look forward to joining in the ways that you may want there are so many of us who love living and creating more liberated worlds where we can all live more freely
and whatever happens tonight will keep going all the love to trans you we will keep fighting this we will win and we will keep making more C and more friend world [Applause] together thank you our next speaker is
Lupe Hernandez good evening um my name is Lupa Hernandez and I am here speaking in my own personal capacity I want to first um thank and welcome our student members I want to uplift that your voices truly
matter and that it's really important that we actually have our student representation on this Council so thank you um for speaking up and you may only know what you and your friends are experiencing but know that in this space
you do represent all district 2 students so please be proud of that and and don't be afraid to share I want to thank everyone that has been coming here um month after month I was here at the first meeting that 248 was introduced and I brought to the
attention to this Council that we had lost a student a trained student in District 2 prior to this resolution actually being passed and to Elena's point with intent and impact I think at this point it was only three of us that
came to speak that night and as we've seen month after month there's been more and more students parents community members that do have a say here in our district and I would like for this Council to actually be the representatives that you are truly
supposed to be and listen to the community and act on that um Omni the Omni resolution I uh we will be introducing resolution very similar in the city white Council for special
education that does touch more on the busing aspect but tonight's resolution thank you I just want to uplift that when this when the mayor and MTA introduced the Omni um pass for our New York City public school students at the
pster you can go back and listen to it it actually was um address that every single New York City public school student would have access to Omni and the emphasis of this great um policy was that students would have access to
learning outside of the classroom and we know how important access to museums are your Public Library there's so many instances where families and students will benefit from having transportation available to them and as public
transportation should be public free for all but at the very minimum we should allow our public school students or any New York City student to have access to the learning that takes place throughout our city there's a lot of cultural learning that can take place outside of
the classroom and I think all students should have the opportunity to participate and have access to so thank you and our last speaker for tonight is Lisa marks thank you um I'm a parent of two District two students that are at ps40
and lab midle um he just start at lab midle he's in sixth grade and I have some academic and educational concerns that I would just like to share with the superintendent and our councel so first
of all um as a parent of a sixth grader um you know I I'm in communication with a lot of sixth grad parents and a lot of parents this year noticed that the weight list for the sixth graders did not move at all and that was at numerous
different schools across District 2 such as Suk zero students were accepted off the weight list Clinton only three students were accepted off the weight list East Side Middle School zero students were accepted off the weight list lab mle two or three were accepted
off the weight list um and and that historically wasn't the case when you go into my school it gives you a snapshot and it tells you um you know last year six year 60 students from s were accepted off and this year it was zero
so there's a lot of questions by sixth grade parents what happened with the weight list year there was a lot of disappointment and I just wish we could get some more clarification about what exactly expir were too many kids assigned to the schools initially was it
a bad algor um is it something else to do with limiting class sizes because that law has been is being implemented so we just want to get some clarification about that because you know looking ahead to the high school application process will
parents experience the same sort of non-movement of the weightless and I also think that you know with the class side of law we need to give a lot of transparency to parents who are about to go through this really grueling High
School process we need to have all that data available to parents as soon as possible if there's going to be changes in enrollment numbers um if it's not going to be the same as in previous years we need to let parents know so that they can make you know realistic
plans with their lottery number and their tier group Etc and the last thing I heard at the time um the last thing is that I just want to also reiterate I know that District 2 is piloting the ustri of math and actually it has already been rolled out for several
years at lab middle I think there are valuable aspects of it um especially for strong math students um that are able to collaborate and speak with each other I went to LA mle I love La mle it's a very collaborative environment I'm also um an
alumni of all public schools in yourk city I was a teacher um for six years in public schools and um yeah last um so what we found so far at lab midle is that some students are coming in way ahead and they're beginning they have
been given the same exact textbook that they use in fifth grade and I have been told there's nothing we can do about it I know we want to standardize some sort of standardized Baseline curriculum and I think that's valuable but I also we have some flexibility about kids who can
do more or kids rece more more support thank you thank you okay so that concludes the sorry there we go uh so that concludes the second public speaker session and we move into the vote on
resolution um I will ask lla and Alexandra to just to bear with us uh in the past my understanding this is before I was on the council that uh the student representatives were did did uh vote on a non-binding basis however we do need
to discuss that just make sure we're okay in the business session today we will do that so if you could just bear with us just students vote they don't matter so uh we will call I'm calling a vote on resolution
259 I make a motion that we vote now on the talk now about a second yeah it's it's not on the agenda it's not on the agenda we'll discuss bus you can't you can't make a motion not entertain that motion we
can't do that we they can they will if they would like if if we agree to do if we agree to do that if we agree to it in the working business meeting I will ask them if they would like at that time to register their votes for those resolutions there's a motion on table he's already called for a vote for the
resolution [Music] do I have a motion for resolution 259 you call for V we do I have a motion for resolution 259 do we have a resol we have a motion
for 259 yes I'll make a motion second oh wait wait no no make a motion to oh wait can I just a motion okay I make a motion to approve resolution number 59 entitled resolution to affirm cct2 support of nycp ass's
guidelines to support transgender and gender expansive students and res resolution number 248 does anyone second that motion like does anybody have a second for that motion does anybody have a second for
that motion so I is there a second for the motion I'll ask again if there's not move forward you undo your okay do second okay I would like to First reiterate that there is an active motion on the table which
you are choosing against all of the the laws to not respond to one more time there's an active motion on the table will we vote on it no we will we are well you know you're cutting me off we are on
are we're on resolution 259 right now objection and failure to do that objection do that is noted I second a motion to vote on resolution 2 okay I will I will call R in the ABS
in the absence of a recording secretary pre is absent Allison Bowen Allison Bowen no Danielle egov is absent Charles love no Charles love is no do you have any healing yes have is yes M Maron no M
Maron is a no S Patel yes S Patel is a yes Shor erber Sarah Shor arberg is a yes Jessica Savage Jessica Savage is a yes Sab s is absent Len Silverman abstain Len Silverman abstains Craig
slin abstains the motion does not pass four to three 23 resolution 260 uh resol to extend eligibility for student Omni cards do I have a motion to accept I make a motion do I have a
second the motion I have to call the motion I'm sorry um I make a motion to approve resolution number 260 entitled resolution to extend eligibility for student on cards who who is is there a second second the motion just just make sure
Victor Mo second yeah we'll take it to a vot pre absent Alison Bowen yes Alison Bowen yes Daniela egov is absent Charles love yes Char love is a yes Gavin
healing yes Gavin Hing is a yes M Maron yes M Maron is a yes son Patel yes son Patel is a yes Sarah sh to arberg Sarah sh to arberg is a yes Jessica Savage yes Jessica Savage is a yes is absent leard
Silman yes leard Silman is a yes Craig slutkin is a yes the motion passes 9 z z beautiful look at us besties so uh we move on sorry sorry you just put me off on
that one um approval of minutes uh before we go on I I will take responsibility so we we have the draft minutes posted in the July meeting we do not have we they're on the website now the August we do not have them in the packet for the August meeting that was on me Victor did send me the draft of
the minutes and I missed it when I was away and then I had we of Health misery so we we will it's on the website now anybody can take a look at it but we'll vote on it at the next meeting um has anybody has everybody had a chance to review the minutes of the July 10th
meeting uh can I get a motion to approve the minutes it's to the motion to approve the minutes of the July 2024 well the questions there any amendments yes sorry are there any comments or amendments to
the minutes motion to approve the minutes as submitted for July 10th 2024 second by love pre is alisen yes Danielle yes Danielle is AB Charles love yes Charles love is yes gav H gav H is
yes Aaron marains Patel Patel is a yes sber yes arber is yes Jessica Savage Jessica Savage is yes oh she's absent sorry leard
Silverman yes leard Silverman yes yes nine it passes uh sorry 801 801 is there any your business okay then I will ask if we show
hands are we okay to adjourn and move to the business meeting yes yes okay uh do we need your Jour does do we need five minutes for a break before we
go okay good so I am going to call the working business meeting to order uh we take a roll working for this meeting prai prai is absent then Alison Bowen
Alison bow is here Ed absent uh Charles love here Charles Love is Here healing here is here Mar is here Patel Patel is here Sarah arber SAR
arber is here Jessica Savage Jessica Savage is here sa s abson Leonard Silverman here leard Silverman is here craigin is here lla Jackson sorry I proun it wrong I said Jason Jason Jason
okay here and Alexander stman here point of order sorry uh point of order I just wanted to just ask Craig I know that the members who are not here both for the calendar meeting and the B and the business meeting some of them have
indicated that they had reasons for their non-appearance I don't know if they're excused but I guess you'll and we have certain rules bylaws as what constitutes an excusal so we'll reconcile that um before we go to the
agenda the the state agenda I will just ask as a bad objection if we could just add to the agenda and make it the next item the issue of whether or not students can vote on a nonbinding on a non-binding basis I second that I I I
you made the motion second the motion uh can we just do a show was there any discussion we should ask them in well you can you can vote you can also abstain if you don't wish to vote that's perfectly fine as well okay um they
can't vote for no no no I'm talking about in general in general not for this is there any discussion on that yeah I just really briefly so we' we've let students we there's no fall process but we've let students who have sat on
this Council before student members vote again their vote is a non it's nonbinding they don't have any actual about in the council but I think it's symbolic and I'm in favor of it uh can we do it by show hands all in favor anybody
[Music] oppos I'm gonna write down way okay um I will I will uh allow the two of you do you wish to vote on resolution register vote on resolution
29 uh sorry we'll start with L vote Yes okay and then Alexandra Alexandra yeah I vote Yes okay do you wish to register a vote on resolution 260 on the OM yes okay and then Alexander yes okay
and I will ask you do you wish to register a vote on approval of the minutes hello okay fine we do not have a the treasur is not here tonight uh so we will punt on that
report uh meeting dates 2024 and 2025 uh we should set a calendar our meetings are currently the third Wednesday of the month unless there is a uh School holiday or vacation in which case we move it back or front depending
on the month um any thoughts on that let's keep it the same everybody okay okay good on school leas on assignments we made assignments last year uh I don't see any reason why we need to switch if
people individually want to SW but say Charles didn't want want to change with me that's between the two of them I'm fine with that but I don't see any to reinvent this is everybody okay with that okay uh and just as a reminder uh we should be starting our school visits
uh and when you do a school visit uh our friend Victor is happy to set that up for you please do it through him please do not go directly to the school um we work that way ccd2 social media do we need to still have a conversation we
last it's been beautiful and I I appreciate the the way it's been handled and I think if anyone has any objection to the way it's been handled they can bring it out I person and brought up originally I just just so folks know uh we have been adding stuff to our Twitter account from
the New York Public School System Twitter account so it's information but I figured if it's coming from the doe probably okay to retweet can I ask real quickly who added the table of the Middle School visits how did that come about was that you in the I did it last night because I thought it was that was
gorgeous oh I didn't do the table I just link to the table Yeah we added it but the table was done by that gentleman over there but we did put it it's on it's it was I think you might have put it out in an Instagram or something I don't know I saw it and I thought we
should put it up on our on our website as well so it is there and maybe unless anybody Jacks will tweet that out that it's there okay um any new business okay then uh I believe we are
Journey thank you everybody have a very nice Halloween we're here before Halloween they said have a lovely Halloween or we're coming back before September oh wait a second I did the same thing the other day you you know what it is you know what it is I'm starting my fallest
okay oh you're starting planning for Halloween yes we're starting planning for I was yeah no