Are you ready? Please here. Here. [Music] is here
Jason and [Music] Um, wait for people to come in. We want to be able to hear each other. uh suggest that to confirm that you did receive uh emails as the administrative
assistant from both Charles Love and Sabina Sarise. Uh so they be excused. I'm now going to turn this meeting over for a few moments to to Rebecca Rosado from PACE the DOE office of family and community engagement. Rebecca will be meeting the meeting
norms tonight. Rebecca. [Music] All right. Good evening everyone. My name is Rebecca Rossado and I am the senior director of the governance team at the office of family and community
empowerment. Before we begin today's council meeting, I would like to address a couple of important points to ensure a respectful and productive session. I would like to thank the council for the opportunity to speak before your meeting
begins. Firstly, I kindly ask all members of the audience and council to maintain decorum throughout the meeting. This includes refraining from interrupting speakers and fellow council members by shouting, cursing or yelling
as they are trying to speak. These actions interrupt and prolongs the meeting and does not give each speaker the opportunity to be heard. Additionally, the safety of everyone in attendance is paramount and as such safety agents are
on hand to support. Secondly, while the meetings are subject to open meetings law, which promotes transparency and public participation, we must also respect and safeguard the privacy of our youth participants.
Therefore, while legally who are allowed to, we humbly request that no one reports nor photographs students during the meeting. This measure is in place to protect their privacy while allowing them to freely engage in the public
comment section and other proceedings. Thank you for your cooperation and understanding. I turn it over to the chair to begin the meeting. Thank you. uh and I would encourage council members to uh listen to the speakers uh and I
think that goes a long way. So we'll move on to the presentation of resolutions. Start out with resolution 272. Resolutions will affirm CC2 support of NYCPS's guidelines to support transgender and gender expansive students and receive resolution 248.
Would one would a member would a council member like to speak on this? that person [Music] that over a year six members of this council committee have been calling for resolution 248 to be sent for over a
year they've shown spoken enough abundantly resolution 248 does not represent our values it does not represent who we are or who we aspire to make as a student and most importantly it cost us especially our youngest students who don't fit someone else's
idea of this resolution versus 248 is not just about undoing harm. It's about renewing our commitment to the D2 community. It's about saying but clearly and tolerantly that every student belongs here exactly as they are. And
it's about finally turning the page and moving forward in passion, inclusion, and integrity. Let's do what we should have done a long time ago and presented resolution 248. Thank you. Thank you. And I'll just note that again
has joined us student representative. Next resolution is resolution 273 resolution to amend chancellor's regulation A660 to mandate citywide PATA revenue share. Does anybody wish to speak on this
resolution? Council. Um I think to help the people on Zoom hear me if I um for a moment on Zoom if uh if that helps the uh the sound a little bit better. I hope we don't get any interference.
Um thank you. Uh first of all I want to just collect some kind of misinformation about this resolution. This resolution is about starting a conversation on more equitable PTA funding models. Um, there are about 1,800 schools in New
York City and I think perhaps the majority of them do not have a functioning parent association or parent teacher association. Of those that do, most of them raise less than $1,000 per year. But we also have schools that raise
several hundred,000 each year. And quite a few of those schools are are here in district 2. And so I think it makes sense to try to find a way to share some of that large s with the broader community. And we know that PTA funding
will never make up for the failures of our state, city, and federal government to fully fund public education and social services. And that's not its intention. But this is one place at the parent level where fundraising work
could be coordinated more efficiently and more equitably. I recognize that this is certain vagueness to this resolution. We're not trying to impose a formula on all PTAs with this resolution, but rather just to put a framework in place to come up with ways
that as a community that we can come together and share ideas and resources and about and to talk about how to better share those those resources. Thank you. Thank you. The next resolutions
resolution resolution the office of family community engagement also known as base their management of the community education council elections and to demand an immediate review and reform the election process. So the council member wish to speak on it. Yeah.
So first I want to say I know that we have some representatives here tonight. I know this resolution sounds uh pretty drastic about how it's uh worded but just bear with me and we're just trying to improve the process. So uh for those
basic oversections and [Music] money budget for elections this year there were numerous problems with the administration this election. There was a working group that was convened to discuss the election and what appeals
was to be made, but that wasn't convened until December, 4 months before the obligation over. Many candidates did not understand what the council did. Many did not submit candidate statements or participate in the forums. Many who did participate in the forums didn't actually talk about
anything. Within the forums, there were issues. For example, CCHS had two nights of speakers from both and doesn't stop the volume where they had stopped several hours waiting to start which
computer has continued to be perfect on CC1 for example some left off and after a week of voting voting again. They were guidelines in several violations with the wording with no response to those accusations entirely.
I just want to max briefly because I can tell you and I don't have any sting because I was not right. But some of the things I saw were absolutely atrocious and um basically slanderous. Uh some candidates were called to remind them to
vote. So there's now a question of who has access to the data and what they can see. Can face see who voted for who? As a result, there needs to be a comprehensive investigation over face and their administration of the election. There needs to be an audit to make sure the election results are
correct. There needs to be new oversight over face for elections or perhaps getting someone from the outside to conduct elections going forward. So, that's what this resolution basically proposes. Again, uh we really think the process can be improved and that's what
we're trying to do with this resolution. Thank you. Uh we have no pres program presentations tonight. So uh do you have the list? Okay, we're going to wait a second because I know people are still filling out list. If you would like to speak tonight uh in either the first or
the second public speaker session, please uh sign up at by the piano. Victor will help you. Just give us another minute. I'm sorry. Okay. Sorry. Gavin on mute. Yeah, that's what I did for you. That's what I did
for you. That's what Thank you. I'm going to get them a computer. Okay. Okay. Do you want to read the name? Victor, are you going to uh help by the mic? Yeah. Thank you.
Well, I've been nominated. Read the name. So, I apologize because handwriting is really bad. I think our first um speaker is Yatton. And then we're going to be follow Y will be followed by Annabelle Riierro and Christian Clifford. If
you're hear your name, just be prepared to speak. How much time are you? Two minutes. And each speak will begin in two minutes. Good CC2. Uh my name is Ash. I'm a public school parent. I am speaking in opposition of resolution 273. I do not
support the ruling of mandatory divesting of one school's PTA funds be shared with other schools. This presents serious legal and logistical obstacles which I won't address my problems tonight. What I do want to point out is that all public schools should be funded
so that our students can receive high quality academics, enrichment, educational trips, and after school programming, useful furniture, storage lockers, and musical instruments in good condition. The fact that parents, most
of whom are stretched with their own lifes and family responsibilities, feel the burden to raise additional funds by these is not right. And now we're suggesting that what they raise will be allocated to other schools, shortening
what is needed at their children's school. Successful PTA events are not only raising money, but the events become part of the culture of the school and builds community. Taking funds raised by parents in one school to give
to another will dampen the motivation of PTAs. Mandating redistribution will decrease the overall fundraising efforts across all schools and weaken the community and bonds among public school parents. Lastly, for the generous and
philanthropic members who sponsor this resolution, there's absolutely nothing to stop you from volunteering your time or donating to PTAs of other schools you want to help. Please vote no on resolution 273. Additionally, I want to wholeheartedly
support the resolution 274 condemning face in how the recent DC elections was run and demanding a review of the election process. My advocacy group placed NYC urged a hold to the election on the first morning of elections when a number of parents noticed errors coming
in. A week later today, a week later for the election, I reported an unethical action of the 62 candidate. Hi. Yeah, thank you. Um I I didn't realize that you said time. Are you gonna say that when other
speakers I mean we have to be fair. So we've given extra time to other speakers. So people are allowed to finish sentences and thoughts. We've agreed to that. That's what we've done. So let's at least be consistent. Um Annabel Ro. Um so that first meeting I spoke at
I had the chance to speak with you. Your main issue with 269 was based on your adherence to proceeding. You thought it was imper it was improper to send a resolution. In that meeting, I had asked you probably to attempt to compromise the sponsors 269 JF272 with the same
clause that you objected to that behind closed doors. I can't know why the clause you object to is still correct, but I think we can make inferences based on your public actions. Two months ago, we took the lead on correctly with the reported absence of your political allies in the school. Yet, you didn't
even go as far to ask our friendly allies to pick the slide. You simply provide your club letter to your political without demanding to pull the same people. And now we have 674 face of how they handled the CDC
elections. It's not lost on me that the co-sponsors include Leonard and Danielle. Last meeting, Leonard attempted to unilaterally shield 268 from being closed to death. A face representative pointed out that this was improper. Daniel on the other end, one of the
court members who has developed a habit of ducking out before votes. Don't get me wrong, if the resolution free county stand is correct, you do have reason to be angry. However, this resolution just means you're right. said since you said that
you'll never forget my face at the first time I spoke this for I know it's likely you'll remember this I had hope that you are a reasonable just person but based on your actions and going through that superalism is you still as a political weapon in doing so you've helped
undermine this ad tenant and liberalism the primary role of elected officials the welded people while I am disappointing you you still have time to correct the mistakes by the way The will of the people are ready to be.
Thank you. Christian Clifford. Kristen, I'm sorry. Hi, my name is Kristen Clifford and I am the proud parent of two trans kids who have gone through the New York City
public school system. My children have attended PS3 in district 2 cyent and I am a parent but a student in district 2. My children have hugely benefited from the department of education support
of trans kids. My children have benefited from their teachers and their principles and their guidance counselors and their peers supporting them and loving them through their
transition. I ask that this council protect all trans kids. I ask that this council protect all New York City kids, all students, trans kids, immigrant kids, bipod kids, disabled
kids. I am in support of resolution 272. I ask that you desent resolution 248. I'm also in support of 273 where we should be sharing TA
content. My children have benefited from schools that have a lot of PTA funding and we have shared as PTA sometimes we have shared our PTA funding with other schools. I wish all schools were funded.
I rely on my children's teachers, guidance counselors to keep my children safe. I want a community education council that listens and cares for all students. I would also like to note that
this is the first time that most of the people on this council have actually looked at me. Thank you. We're gonna have like that is me. You just w my name is Omar. I used to um I was a
student in the New York City school system for 13 years back in the from the late 90s 1997 all the way through when I graduated from high school in 2010. So yes, so it's been a while and I need to I need to mention here that th this
council specifically has got to change because what you did when you approved resolution 248 last like March of last year, you're basically saying trans kids are immune. Like WTF is wrong. What is
wrong with everyone? Like not everyone but a bunch of people. And and it's it's it's really sad to to quote a to quote a famous politician one time but modify trans rights are human rights and human rights are trans rights. If you don't if
you don't understand the revolution one day one day this group is going to is going to vote to to vote all the responsible people out. And also no more walking out in the middle of the session um middle session. If you're in the council, you stay here to the end of the
council. And I hope people here are paying attention because like I said, because there's certain people who like to like to bend the rules so that women like, "No, no, this is not work." And it with great power comes great responsibility. You better start acting
like like um like a true council or else you're all going to fail. And this for for this um for this council to approve that resolution in my in the school system where I grew up. That's the
travesty. Change your way or animal virtual. Thank you. Next we have once again my son was reading that to me. He says CIS equals can't imitate sex. And I think the other person named
Elena Daniels is right now instructing her groupies or those that are groomed by her to be disruptive and disrespectful as usual. I have said this before, I am a female athlete who has been sponsored. I
am dedicating my speech today to 14-year-old student Anna Wilson, who had her medal stolen in her competition from a biological male who was competing in her sports. She asks that adults do the
right thing to make girls sports fair and safe. It is not safe for students like Annalie Wilson to have biological males competing with her. It is not safe for students like Ali Wilson to have
biological males changing in modern world with her. What about her conflict? I'm here of course to support resolution 248 and to support resolution 274. Thank you for that one too. Please
let the minutes reflect everything that I support and everything that I oppose because the minutes are not accurately reflecting what I support and what I oppose. I oppose 271. I oppose 270 and I oppose
272. And in terms of keeping on bringing up resending 248, Gavin, that's impossible because 248 has already had its life cycle. So you are essentially harassing the panel. And in terms of
harassment, there was a resolution that reportedly was about harassment, but nobody had anything to say about the harassment of MAR or or is being prevented. Next we have
Hi, I am a parent of two district 2 graduates and maybe I shouldn't be here because my kids are not here anymore but I'm I still live here and I still care. So that's why I'm here and I just want to hopefully if this one person I could
give a different perspective to I'd be so happy. I doubt it but I'm going to try. Resolution 248. What did it say? It said are we so sure that people with male bodies who whatever they whatever
they think it was should they be in female sports? Should they? I don't know. Let's think about it. That was what the resolution said. Is it possibly unfair to females who are competitive in sports? Is it
possibly when it comes to contact sports unsafe? I don't know. Let's think about it. Is that evil? I don't think it's evil. And I'm also going to say I don't think it's evil to question any of the things that
you people believe. These are beliefs. We're allowed to question them. It doesn't make anyone evil if they question them. Perhaps letting young boys and young girls who are different, perhaps same sex attractive, whether
they know it yet or not, perhaps autistic, perhaps just quirky and unusual. Perhaps letting them live in their healthy intact bodies until they grow up might be a good thing. And some people think so. Some
people think that The child says, "I'm not immediately say that's true. You should be your body. Let's change it, honey, because I love you." Well, maybe some people who love their children don't think they should change their
bodies because that might not be to question that. And it might actually be a good thing to question whether medically changing children's bodies is a good thing. All right. Thank you. Thank you.
[Music] Hello, my name is Cavanis. I'm a junior at Sisen High School here in district 2 and I'm a co-president of our GSA stack and I'm here again to urge this council to repeal resolution 248 and protect trans NYC school students like
myself. I'm here again and I hate being here and I hate being here because I know that while most of this crowd here is looking at me as the whole human and girl that I am, others see me and they immediately start thinking about what is under my dress. And if that's you, please reconsider your life choices.
Weird. Makes me uncomfortable. Makes everyone uncomfortable. I'm 17. I'm a child. I don't like being there. And I wouldn't have to be if this council listened to students like me. But I'm going to keep showing up because the kids at my school, this council is harming with their transphobic and
misogynistic agenda, see me as a leader, someone who's willing to stand up for them and their rights. I have trans classmates that look to me for information, for validation, for support, and I can't let them down. People are scared. People I know
are staying in the closet because they fear the repercussions of coming out here in New York City in the most in the most open city in America. And it's not just trans kids. You claim that this resolution is about protecting female athletes. But I was talking to a sis body called the girls track team. and
she says that she feels threatened by 248 sponsors, not the trans kids trying to shut out and she can outrun me by a mile. That's important. I was on the boys team before I transitioned and my time wouldn't wouldn't have even been in the 50th percentile of the girls. Okay?
And you guys claim that all this is based on biology, all this harassment, all this rhetoric. And I don't want to be that sidekick, but I have a whole point of I totally be bi. And I'm pretty confident that I know more biology than the people sponsoring this resolution. In 85, we had a whole unit
on sex and genetics and all that. And we learned that neither gender nor sex is binary. They both exist on spectrum. And that the way we analyze them in society is social. It's a social concept. We analyze sex contract as is the way we analyze it. Please do what
the science actually says and what the students want to hurt. Thanks. [Applause] by Hi, I'm and I go to Sford High School. Um, I believe in a district too that can be more supporting for trans
kids and kids in general. hear us speak because all I have to say, all I should have to say is for Sin 248, for you to hear my voice and all the others that I speak for. Thank you. Sorry.
before. [Music] Uh hello, my name is Sawyer. It's nice to speak to you all. I've been attending this meeting since November and over the last six months I've received incredible testimony from trans kids and their parents and from educators and athletes
and administrators and community members and everyone's advocate for the safety and wellbeing of all students and especially trans youth. But today I am here to thank specifically and to thank the people on this board who have done the right thing. Uh so I want to thank
you all Sol and Gavin and Sarah and Jessica and uh Laya and Alexandra for your genuine dedication and for your care for marginalized students in our education. You all have proven steadfast and even healed despite pressure backlash and your integrity is admired and it's appreciated deeply. um your
resolutions to protect trans students, to ensure the teaching of accurate history in our schools, to allow educators to greatly important individual student needs and to question the unbalanced mural power that NYU public schools and your unwavering dedication to the protection of the
young people in your care are all testaments to your character. Not only are they commendable, they are necessary. We are in a game of uncertainty and misinformation and scapegoating fear. And what may seem like a minor fringe issue in a hyper localal or inconsequential setting are
in fact just the first dominoes. They are the beginnings of chain reactions of discrimination. And it may seem trivial to fight to keep one domino standing. But not only are you protecting something important in and of itself, no matter how small it may seem, you are also protecting everything else that it is connected to. I speak on behalf of
all the anti- defense for liberation when I say that we are all grateful to you. And I speak just for myself when I say that I don't know if I can be here in this room without you all or without you all because I truly don't know how much I have to continue to care and to continue the fight without the proven
dedication of other ordinary people by my side. So from the bottom of my heart and from the bottoms of all of our hearts. Thank you. And please stop recording students please stop recording my speak please. want to take this really
seriously. We talked about planner. So, even though I'm a really person, I'm just going to do some planning. [Music] Also just doing my own stuff. Yeah, Annie is one example, but the research
overwhelmingly show that when we support students gender identity, they are happier, healthier, they um like die by suicide. They are parts of community and you can be a part of also helping those students. All students, all issues are
transitioned as someone said before. All students deserve to feel loved and cared for. And a lot of the examples here are also like high schoolers or college students. And we're talking about mostly KA schools in district 2. I don't even know why we're talking about that, but we really don't need to be um focusing on how to make the schools worse. Let's
talk about making schools better. by Maria. Looks like Good evening, council members. Um, I am a district 2 graduate and now a district 2 parent of a district two kid. Um, as I'm sure you've heard, Governor Hokll's
budget institutes a statewide ban on phones in schools. some recently wrote an essay on the yonder pouches that they use at kids middle school and she made some solid points. Though the students aren't all fans, the pouches have made a huge difference in maintaining student
attention during class without requiring the teachers to constantly discipline. As my son noted in his essay, the pouches can help with getting people to pay more attention to the world around them. You may want to consider familiarizing yourself with them before the role takes effect next school year.
Um perhaps the council can invest in a set of pouches if you need paying attention to the speakers in front of you perhaps and that might help get you more in line with what's going on. Um that said, let's let the kids play.
Thank you. [Music] Hi everyone. I worked as a teacher in public schools for 15 years, including district 2. Cutting funding for elections will not solve the issue of engagement. I was thrilled to campus in Chinatown, i.e. go out into the streets
in person on public sidewalks, in parks and libraries for the recent elections. Chinatown is a famously diverse neighborhood with an array of cultures and languages and is an example of only one neighborhood in district 2 with many workingclass and financially
underresourced families. I have many many amazing conversations with parents in this neighborhood who were excited to vote, engage, and participate in elections once they better understood the process or that it was even an option. From what I saw, instead of
cutting funding, having more people from faith on the ground, for example, having tables set up inside the school to inform and educate voters would make a huge difference. My wish is that there is more work and focused effort put into directly engage youth and parents, especially working-class families. These
communities are full of amazing leaders, skills, and resources that stretch beyond money. They deserve a voice and inclusion in the decisions that affect their children and schools. actively reaching out to and including members of the these communities will ultimately enhance districts too. Additionally, mon
rolling your eyes when the student speaker was up here earlier is so absolutely disgraceful and I hope you all got that on camera. The word reflects directly on you. [Applause]
Hello. All right. Hello everybody. I'm so glad that I made it. Um, some of you know me. I'm Chrissy Rose. I'm a full contact karate black belt and a semi knockdown champion. I teach martial arts, self-defense, and violence prevention to adults and children of all
genders. I also have an F on my birth certificate. I'm telling you all of this to say that I have some qualifications to speak on resolution 248. Today, I want to talk about the violence prevention aspect of my resume.
So, we keep hearing over and over again that keeping trans girls out of sports is about fairness or safety or protecting girls. But the folks on this board who have pushed resolution 248 through have yet, to my knowledge, to
produce anyone who has experienced any harm in this district from a trans girl playing sports. Meanwhile, every month you hear about the harm that everybody here is experiencing. You hear about harm from students, from teachers, from parents,
from community members who are actively being harmed by this resolution. In Germany, from 1933 to 1938, the Nazis took lots of measures to push Jews out of society. They prevented them from
accessing state funed healthcare. They kicked them out of the military. And they made it illegal for them to play sports. Those things should sound familiar because they are all things that have happened to transgender Americans under this administration. And one of them is something that's happening right here in this
room. You can tell us that we're overreacting. You can use strong man arguments. You can tone police us. And you can bemoone the lack of civility that we express. But civility. Civil is not what is called for
here. When there are attacks on children and vulnerable people happening, that doesn't deserve civility. That deserves reality. Please resend 248. Thank you. Hello. I just want to say that since
we're professionals to education, I want to ask what does everyone here say children? And I say that I think that children deserve freedom, safety, autonomy, and humanity. And anyone who doesn't believe that has no right to be sorry. Now uh I'm going to speak first
on the resolution that shares PTA funding district with the wider district. I just want to say that while I am not a Christian I do consider myself a follower of Christ and ideology and I believe that if you are blessed with riches and good and good things and you have a right to share with other
people and I think it is a good it is our godgiven right and duty to share with people who have less to give to people so they can experience the things that they deserve. I love Abraham Lincoln and I love having the means to have wonderful programs. I think every student in the entirety of New York City
deserves that. In the same way I hope that children deserve funding for after school programs and academics, I think that trans children deserve safe after school spaces with people who care about them and love them, acknowledge their humanity to have fun in a space that's not academic where they have control and
autonomy. So the same reason I propose that I want funding to be shared throughout NYC schools whatever name of it is the same reason I want transplay because I believe that children deserve everything we can possibly give them whether it's our material riches through
sharing funding as Christ intended Christ wanted us to share all that we have all that we are blessed with that is the Christian way just so you know it's the Christian way to share all that you are blessed with everyone who deserves it whether or not they deserve grace or not is giving giving race those
who deserve it least. That makes you a follower of Christ and by that seeing that you're trans deserve that same grace and love and anyone who thinks otherwise is not a true follower of Christ and definitely do not deserve to be charged children in any cap. Thank you.
Uh, I'm a mom of a trans kid who luckily graduated before all of this started. Um, this is I dream of a district 2 C2 meeting that people know about and are excited to attend, where parents show up and stay for the whole thing because the
meetings end at a reasonable hour and they're both fun and meaningful. where moms and dads and non-binary parents are supported and surrounded by whole families and communities, caregivers, aunties, gumples, grandparents, neighbors, and chosen family. Where
teachers and social workers, janitorial staff, and administrators are welcome and respected. Where all of the trusted adults and children's lives are invited to play a meaningful role in decisions that affect their lives. I dream of a district C2 CEC2 meeting that feels
safe, free of all forms of violence. Hopeful where all kids can just be kids who live, learn, thrive, love, and belong. A meeting where there is clean air to breathe. A community where each individual genuinely cares about all children in that community. Not just
their own and authentically, not regardless, but intentionally because of identities, race, gender, gender identity, immigration status, disability, languages, where people bring more joy into the space and people
joining via Zoom are actively participating in all parts of the meeting. Next we have Cole will be followed by Ro and Chelsea. I'm going to continue where she
left off and doing the CC2 meeting where a meeting that appeals collaboration not competition where we parents are treated with respect and treat others with respect. I dream of a board meeting where there's free and accessible
interpretive services for those who speak English as a foreign language as well as those who are deaf or heart of hearing. That feels like an inviting place for workingclass and financially underresourced families to participate
and be truly represented. District 2 includes many neighborhoods with workingclass families from a gorgeous array of backgrounds, cultures, and languages. These communities are full of amazing leaders, skills, and resources
that stretch beyond money. They deserve a voice and inclusion in the decisions that affect their children and schools. actively recruiting and including members of these communities will enhance the discussions and decision
making of this council. I dream of a district 2 CEC meeting where I see students on board, trans students, all members of the council looking at me and listening with
curiosity to me as I speak. more than one trans woman, some of whom are moms and grandmothers, both blood and chosen, sitting at the decision-making table. Or I see food and fresh water
available for folks. People with lots of different genders, the trans flag and the progress live flag are draped in the center of the table. folks of color, poor and workingclass parents, immigrants, people who don't speak
English, grandparents, goals, cool older half siblings, stepmoms, childless cat ladies, I dream of a CC2 meeting where council members really listen to one another and the members of the public who speak during early childhood educators, art
teachers, sex educators, math judges, union reps and librarians. No cops, council members and members of the public sitting in a big circle that includes everyone. Folks dancing the latest quer bountiful art and
engineering supplies for for folks to paint, draw, sketch, sculpt, and build. folks wearing a rainbow of outfits including saris, kafas, sundresses, hijabs, BLM, NYC school t-shirts, kas,
denim vest covered with queer pins and patches and very suits, a library of books that provide all community members with mirrors of their lived experiences, as well as windows into the experiences of
others and tell true stories about race, gender, Justice, power, and identity. More of those rainbow cookies we had last time. People who have power being held accountable for their actions or
inactions. Feeling free legal support or free legal support where folks can ask questions and get free access to tools to understand, read, and shape the law. A functioning and more accessible internet/zil connection that brings people into home and allows them to
speak as well. students free to give testimonials about their direct experience. People talking about curriculum, pedagogy, and solidarity. Um, workingclass families, working class families of color, and
workingclass families of English language learners being actively recruited and included on this board and these meetings as they make up a significant percent of this district. free child care so busy parents can attend and fully participate. I dream of
a district to the CDC meeting where I see sitting in a place of honor. speaker. I do have a district 2 CCA where I see sitting in places of honor. Audience for liberation founder Dr. Megan Madison amidst a group of powerful
black women leaders including Tim Wson Benjamin, Kimberly Krenshaw and Queen Gene practicing and teaching organized wisdom learned across generations. Annie stands amidst an intergenerational posy of trans women and girls, some who play sports in
district 2 and some who don't, children and teachers. I dream of a district 2 CEC meeting where I see in the circle student council reps from around district 2 who get a vote ideally teachers paid to attend and
share insights. Community members from school districts around the world who come to share and learn together. District 2 alumni returning to ensure that the next generation of students feel the same love and care they felt while at school. more and more uft union
repress. I dream of meetings that sound like members of the community grappling with issues that are important to District 2 families and working together to solve community problems, but sound respectful and with all of the council members staying until the end of a meeting,
children laughing, clear audio and video that was being simultaneously translated into multiple languages, interpreted into ASL, and provided live transcription. Someone turning to a neighbor to ask where the bathroom is and feeling no
fear or anxiety whatsoever about whether they'll be able to pee in peace because of all the because all of the bathrooms are all gender. More likely fidget spinners. Community singing joyful freedom songs. Authentic and truly thoughtful listening. They're
intentionally transparent and access forward for all. They're honest and vulnerable. No one knows everything and that's okay. Discussion of issues that are not about restricting children's learning rules
children. [Music] Who's next? We put it together. Like really the whole community put it together. So you can't tell.
Can I ask you speak now? All right. So, we have Bailey and Billy. Hi, Jane. CE joyful freedom songs. Authentic and truly thoughtful listening. They're intentionally transparent and
access forward again for all. They're honest and vulnerable. No one knows everything. That's okay. Discussion of issues that are not about restricting children's learning. Students talking about their work, the work they do with other
children, perhaps high school students, sharing about how they mentor other students. listening to and including the voices of workingclass and financially underresourced families and multiple villages. I dream of a D2 CC meeting where there's
child care and second district 13 room for learning and growth. Where students votes count and youth forces matter. Where the deep expertise of professional educators, social workers,
principles, and superintendants built with intention through years of hard work and dedication is trusted and valued. where every child feels proud, accomplished, accepted, and happy at school. All kids get what they need to
learn without being affected by theization and bias adults bring to the table. Parents from any and all ethnicities, races, and working classes can be finally attend and speak knowing they're in a safe and valued place. They
can attend without fear that they may be outing their kids or putting them on rather than taking pride in working with their community to proactively create a better environment for all families in DT are truly represented including workingclass
families workingass families of color workingass families and English language learning [Music] families and also All attendees of the meeting respect the space guidelines and
rules to not document students tonight. Thank you. [Music] Hi everybody. It's I know it's Elena at this point, you know, 15 15 months of coming to these cities. Fair.
Um I will say our speaker earlier I didn't remember but either way um I want to start by saying thank you to everybody who helped with this a whole bunch of you all who put together this document of like what this meeting should feel like and it made me feel so
amazing and wonderful to hear everybody get out their for those of us on the board who've been at the meetings for the last 15 months thank you for being here and doing that too. Um uh so I came to the CC2 meeting where
all families in district 2 are truly represented including working-class families, working class families of color, working-class English language and learning families. Neighborhoods in district 2 with working class families and there are many are full of amazing leaders, skills and resources that
stretch just beyond that stretch beyond night. actively recruiting and including members of the communities is essential to accessibility [Music] to there's been a huge imbalance historically as it relates to who is the ability to just sit down in peace and
quiet and learn as a result so much Justin walks and so if I haven't come up with an answer on the spot I think it's creating a safe environment for everyone to just read and write and
Michelle Michael. Sorry. And uh we're going to [Music] have again obviously I'm here to support resolution 272 and ask resolution 248
and then teach mom two girls from four schools only 18 schools like someone else said thank you my trans so that doesn't mean I shouldn't be because I need to be here to help everybody else who help us get through
what we got through and so that all of these kids have the same support and love that my daughter did when she was in her public schools. Parents of trans youth and trans youth keep coming here and telling you how harmful this 248 is, but you
don't listen. And I think the only reason that you brought it here in the first place was to score some kind of political points and get attention to yourself which you otherwise wouldn't get because you're just not that. Stop using our kids to get a
headline for New York resolution 273 helping others lift us all. And it's a bit shameful to hear people think that by giving something of that you have more of it somehow takes things away from you.
and resolution 274. I would be for it if you struck paragraph 5 page one regarding the increased number of candidates applying to say to say that there are more choices is overly burdensome on voters and we can't
somehow handle it is insulting and I want to know what is the reasonable amount of new candidates who are trying to run to unseat you I suppose right to say in a resolution that Many candidates apply have little or no
understanding of the responsibilities of council members. Well, I would say that a majority of the current council has little or no understanding of the responsibilities of council members. You obstruct forum. You manipulate attendance records. You go months
without votes and then declare yourselves effective. It's a shameful lack of self-awareness. I'm going to come back second session to thank you guys. Good evening. My name is Michael. I am a D2 parent of two kids. This is my fifth
CEC meeting. My understanding is that the purpose of these meetings is to improve the quality of education and the school experience for all New York City public school kids. However, in five the five CDC meetings
I've been to, the majority of the council to this side of the table that is the majority in this council have not been to each of the five meetings I've attended from the beginning to the end except for one
member. Bob, you missed two that I've been to and you left early to all the others. Alison, you missed two, left early to all the others. Three. You missed one. Left early twice. Charles.
Charles. Charles has now missed three. He's in a lot of trouble. And he was over two hours late to the last one and was counted present. Daniela, you missed one. You were you left early to rest. Craig, you missed
last week. Song, Gen, Sarah, Jessica, and Leonard. You all get gold stars for perfect attendance. There are only 10 CC meetings in a year. Based on my experience at all the public schools I've attended, some of our
council's efforts would have meant we would not have passed your classes, and if you went to the college I attended, you would definitely have flunked out of school. Interesting. For those members who have less than perfect attendance, why are you here? If you are
not willing to do the work, show your work and be present. Good evening, uh, CC2. I'm not a CC2 parent, but thank you for allowing me to speak. I'm a parent of three children in public school, but in high school. So,
I'm actually the president of CCHS. Um, and tonight, I just want to speak about the resolution uh 274, the one that faced because we passed the same in my council. Um, and this is my third time running for a seat. I know many of you
have run are running and uh, and I think we all we may not agree on on all topics, but I think we can all agree this was very poorly run. Actually, um, I've seen Council Member Healey talking to the press and and making very similar remarks that I've made about the fact
that Faith shouldn't be running an election. I agree. um you know what they do they do poorly so they shouldn't be doing things they don't know how to do uh but there were many violations and I think any candidate but then also any
public school parent who's a potential voter and we know only 3% of people vote which is unfortunate should be outraged because this is not real representation uh I don't have an issue with the number of candidates I think it's great that a lot of people want to run I I do think
having participated ated in forums that some people have no idea what CC do. They've never joined a CC meeting. Uh they're all different by the way, but I think it would be good to attend at least one just have a sense. And some people on my forum didn't even know you
had to show up in person. Um so that's that's a little um disconcerting. So I hope all of you here tonight uh vote. This is not about defunding schools, by the way. It's just about making sure that place spends a lot of money and
that it's well spent so that there is real parent engagement and that we can get good representation and good advocacy for all our kids. Thank you very much. [Music] even council members. My name is Amaya. I'm a chapter leader of Against Rumors,
a nonprofit dedicated to protecting children from indoctrination, specialization, and medicalization and under LGBT inclusion. I'm here to urge you to face the reality surrounding resolution 272. Let's be clear,
resolution 272 seeks to overturn resolution 248, a community supported measure called open dialogue over sports policy. Yet for over a year, efforts to silence discussion and push multiple failed resolutions have wasted time and resources on any issue being common
sense and fairness. Resolution 272 with President Trump's executive order keeping men out of women's sports by February 5th. This order enforces title 9 directing the Department of Education to remove federal funding from schools allowing girls to compete in girls
sports. This wasn't a valid gesture. It was a bid directive and not compliance has consequences. By supporting the open heart policy and by pushing resolution by resolution 272, the district is risk losing critical funding like a program
all student services. You're telling parents and students that their preferences of a few outweigh the rights of many. Female athletes deserve a level playing field where their hard work is overshadowed by unfair competition. That's not inclusive. It's to prioritize
the needs of a few over the needs of many. Some might call that negligent. And let's not forget New York is already facing consequences. Saratoga schools are under federal investigation for a title N violation has the same policies. Do you want this district to be
next leadership maintaining a stand even when it's hard and controversial? Care about protecting opportunity for all students, preserving funding, and upon federal law. The path for is to vote no resolution 272. the first public.
Thank you. Okay, to the uh second public speaking session. Thank you. Hear me better. Okay. I'm sorry. You'll have to go to the next session where we're already starting the
next pres. You're a student. It's fine. Go ahead. Go ahead. Sorry. No, that's okay. Go ahead. You want to time it? 16 and I'm a trans I wish to speak to trans because
I'm sure that some somebody will write me. I don't I don't mind. I don't care. Um, you can I'm sure that you'll write me off as a trans person asking for special treatment. I'm not asking for that at all. I'm asking for simple
equality. I wish to speak directly to those who will almost certainly vote against the trans community. I I speak to you today as a student of law, not as a trans person. I believe the integrity of freedom, equality, and justice in a
US court system. I claim that we can agree that every person in this country deserves to live without the fear of violence, discrimination or hatred against them. We may disagree on how we must achieve peace, but we must unite on the importance of protecting all the
fundamental rights for every person. It is said that America stands for liberty and justice for all. And I ask you to take action to ensure that these values are truly unhealth for everyone, including the LGBTQ community. Do you think about how your policy actually impact real real life Americans? Thank
you. Thank you. Okay. Thank you for that and thank you to all the speakers. Uh thank you and good evening everyone. First like to thank ISPS 276 for hosting us. Uh thank
you to Principal Alexis Tabore. I I hope I pronounced that right and her staff. I only know her as Alexis because she used to be at my school and we were on a firstname basis. So, I apologize. Uh, 3K offers are now available. I'm sure everyone who has applied has checked to see their offers, but just in case you
didn't know, please check my schools. Uh, G&T applications for grades 1 through 4 are closed. We'll have results shortly. For those who are interested, there are safety and independence trainings for families. This is a Zoom that happens over several nights, June
3rd, 10th, 17th, 24th, and July 8th at 6:30. This student and safety student safety and independence training for families pilot program is designed to empower parents with the knowledge and resources to promote the safety skills of their own children with disabilities. Students with disabilities benefit from
explicitly learning skills to ensure safety, leading them to more freedom and independence, an increase in self-esteem, and more opportunities for jobs and independent living in the future. If each skill is embedded and practiced until the student has demonstrated mastery, they should be
able to travel using the city's transit systems and pedestrian routes rather than yellow busing or other special transportation. If you're interested, please check with Victor. Victor, please raise your hand. So, and he can uh help you get the information you need. This is through the division of inclusive and accessible learning, and you need to do
this by Friday. A bunch of acknowledgements for May. Uh a couple of weeks ago was teacher appreciation week. We'd like to thank all of our teachers for everything they do for our kids. It was also school nurse day on May 7th and we'd like to acknowledge as our remarkable acknowledge our remarkable
school nurses. May is National Speech Language Hearing Month. To our speech pathologists, thank you for everything you do. Your work is integral to helping students across the city communicate with confidence. May is mental health awareness month. Mental health resources are available to every school, offering
support to meet the emotional needs of our students, educators, and staff. We'd also like to acknowledge that May is also Asian-American and Pacific Islander Heritage Month, AAPI. Please join us in celebrating the diverse cultures, histories, and achievements of AAPI communities throughout New York City and
beyond this month and all year long. Also, happy Jewish American Heritage Month. We're proud to honor the culture, contributions, and lived experiences of Jewish Americans throughout history, both here in New York City and beyond. As Len me mentioned last month, by the way, thank you to Len for doing the for
running the last month's meeting. I had a last minute work emergency. As Len mentioned last month, many of our schools received approval for additional funding to support the expansion of class size reduction initiative. Several schools did not apply. there were several schools that simply were not in a position right now to given their size
constraints. I know the district is working with those schools to come up with longerterm solutions. And don't forget if you want have if you didn't speak in the first session or you want to speak or if you did and you want to speak again, you can sign up for the second session on the uh
piano. And with that, I'm going to turn it over to our superintendent, Kelly Magcguire. [Music] Y thanks so much for having me this council. I'm very happy to be here joined by several members of our team as well as a couple of our citywide
district planning team work closely. We are considering different changes that we might consider results in regards to uh school utilization in the district. Earlier this uh month we held
a forum along with Mayor Adams up in the health kitchen area. The forum was intended. These have been forums that the mayor has uh been putting together over the past few months to really address specific issues that are specific to a community. um all
different all the different agency heads uh come out to the forum. Um at this forum they're particularly uh focused on a couple of different issues. Uh one of them is a large uh project that is being done in the Chelsea area uh a reiting of
and reconfiguration of the Fton Chel Fton uh Chelsea houses. Um we were involved in this project. We wanted to make sure that we raised this issue um with the mayor's team and that we were present for this because we do know that PS33 is
one of the schools that is in the near vicinity. Um the project is uh very very uh it's a huge project that looks to increase the number of available housing uh from around 2200 uh people to over
5,000 people. uh we want to make sure that PS33 the needs of the family and the community are really centered in the work there. We also raised a few issues in regard to make sure that we have strong school safety agents in the area
uh as well as um work that we are doing uh uh in the area and area of schools around reading and reading intervention. We've seen very strong work uh in the schools that are in the health teaching area in relationship to reading uh and seeing strong growth for all of our
students including art English language learners and students with disabilities. Earlier today uh we held an endofear celebration up at the Museum of the City of New York. Uh that was a celebration that was centered on our
civics for all work. uh we had about 20 of our schools come out to participate in civics for all and it was great hearing from the mil elementary and middle school students who had engaged in civics projects. Uh the museum of the city of New York has been a great
partner for our district uh as we are looking to expand access to different projects and exhibits that specifically align with our curriculum. Um and so but it was great to hear uh our students come out and talk about the projects that they had initiated in their schools
to help to improve their schools uh and enga and uh to explain the process that they went through to participate in a p our participatory budgeting project that is a big centerpiece of the civics for all group.
I want to thank Principal Alexis Paper who uh last week she um initiated about two months ago she initiated uh a the idea of a district 2 hiring and uh we know that over the next year we're going to hire about 120 new teachers, brand
new teachers, excuse me, new positions um into our district schools. Um so several schools are looking for um teachers to hire. uh and principal taber said, "Hey, why don't we try to organize a hiring fair?" So, we had over 30 schools represented represented here and
we had over 200 teacher applicants come out to share their resumes, conduct brief interviews with uh principles and their teacher teams. It was just a really fantastic event. So, we can't thank you enough for all that. We also um over the last uh past week uh
we honored our one of our principles, Principal Renie Fong of PS130. Um Principal Fong served as the president for the A3 organization. A3 is a chapter of the uh the CSA, the uh principal the
union that ser uh works for um principles and assistant principles in our district. and principal Fong served as the president of that organization for three years. Um he was honored u by both the uft and CSA for his incredible leadership. Uh and so we really are
appreciative of all the work that he has done both at his school and for our district as a whole. So uh we also in our district um as many people know there are several districts across the city who have been using the witten wisdom curriculum. This
past uh few months, we have been close to citywide visits um both at PS3 and at PS59. Uh we had representatives come out from district 3, 15, 18, and 19. Um superintendents and their team teams
came to see the work in action. Uh they came to see the high quality practice that we had in our classrooms. They saw how teachers were working to build access for diverse populations across our schools. Uh and they also really came to um hear how it is that school
leaders uh came out to really support the work that was going on in their schools. Just as we're looking to the coming year, we have three different areas in which we're really focused on for um uh the continued information implementation of our core curriculum.
We're continuing to focus on the implementation of the core tier one curriculum. We also are building our teaming and databased uh uh decision- making across those teams. And we want to work on how it is that we are organizing and preparing for small
groupoup instruction both in intervention and as enrichment. Uh yesterday we had a district-wide principal conference at Valet Tech. Uh we had over 150 folks from both principles and teacher leaders from their schools come to Ballet Tech
yesterday. Uh and we had a great meeting to kick off some of this work in planning for for the uh for the coming year. So, as um I think President Slutskin was mentioning, but also uh might have been
mentioned before, is that um our district has been a part of uh the work to reduce class size in preparation for the new class size limits that are going to be in effect as of the 2028 2029 school year. The addition of new
teachers into our schools is really going to help us to bring the number of classes that are that meet the new class size limits up to about 50% of our classes. But we know that there are, as um the council has alluded to, uh there
are going to be challenges that extend far beyond that of just hiring new teachers because we don't want to reduce the number of students that are enrolled in any one school. We want to make sure that we are maintaining capacity. So, we're really having to take a step back
and look at where is it that we have excess capacity in our school buildings. Where do we have schools that are overenrolled? Where do we have schools that are underenrolled? And how is it that we can work together with the office of district planning with
different school communities to really think about how it is that we might move forward with that work. Earlier this week, we met with the uh 75 Morton school leadership team. 75 Morton is a big, beautiful building that has a strong and rich uh rich community, even
though the school is only about 10 years old, but it has a lot of capacity in the building. And so, we met with the community there to think about how it is that we could grow the community, how it is that we might be able to use uh and utilize the excess space that is
currently in the building. And so we're going to continue to work and move forward with the 75 Martin community thinking about how it is that we might utilize that space. We might partner with another school. We might consider schools that are incredibly overenrolled. We have some schools in
our district and some buildings in our district that are about 150% utilization. And so we really have to think about how it is that we're taking advantage of those resources in order to meet class size and also grow grow strong communities.
Summer Rising is coming up. Um, and I think an important note uh to let people know is that what there have been new offers for summer rising that have come out to families just recently. Um, families, if you are waiting on a spot for your summer rising seat for your
child, uh, please make sure to accept that spot right away. Uh it's important for us to know who is actually coming to our summer rising programs and so that we can continue to open up those seats to families um across the district uh who are really waiting on
this. We have two principal retirements that have been recently announced. Principal Darin Espazito uh of Manhattan New School PS290 uh and Sana Ang principal of PS2. Both of these school leaders have served in their their
school buildings for quite a long time. Um, and so we're working with the school leadership teams and the the uh chancellor's regulation 30 process to make sure that we're appointing strong leaders that can help to maintain the continuity of the school uh and help to
bring the school closer to the new goals that they have set for the coming year. So, we met with both of the school leadership teams. We congratulate both of these new principles and we're going to continue to work through the chances of regulation 30 process until we have
strong uh candidates for principal and then we'll eventually appoint a new principal to each of these schools. Couple of dates looking ahead. Monday is Memorial Day, so there are no school for the kids. We have a few days off in June for Eid for uh Junth and for
a working day for teachers um here in schools. We have two regent exams that are really important here in district 2. Uh the algebra 1 regent and the biology regents. Those are regent exams that are being administered across district 2. Uh
and we are looking at the last day of school of June 26th. And with that I conclude my report. Thank you. taking questions. No, no, the question is from the cam. Sorry. Okay. So, on summarizing, do you know
what the wait list is? You said there the wait list. Uh there's not a wait list until we um have extended all of the offers to schools. Okay. Um that weight list is going to be in process. Um I don't know if we have a continuing date in which the weight list closes. We
continue to continue to access the weight list until summer rising actually begins. Last year when summer rising began, we actually had some seats in all of our programs or many of our programs. So that weight list will remain open. We'll just keep accepting kids in until
we're legal. So, at the end of last year, by the time this this a week or two into into the summer, were all kids off the waiting list? Did all kids get placed that were on the waiting list? By the time summer started last year, we were able to provide a seat. It wasn't
necessarily in the school of choice. Correct. We were able to provide a seat um in any summer in a summer program for anybody who wanted. Now, my recollection of the program is you get bus from your home school. So, let's say my child is
at PS 212 and the summer rising spot is at PS41. Just for argument sake, I have to bring my if I bring my kid to 212, my kid gets bus to 41. Is that That's busting. Students with disabilities.
Okay. Oh, I see. Okay. I apologize guru. So, if you're a student with a disability, no matter what school you get into, you will get a bus. Even if it's not your first choice, you can have buses. It is included on your IEP. Okay. Okay. Um, are there any other questions from the council? Start from
the end. We'll just go this way. Go ahead. Go ahead. Hi. Um, I was just wondering I know the beginning with the month you talked more about like suspensions and I was wondering if you had any data about that maybe for next or last week
for the year I'm curious about you luckily the numbers have gone down this year to see the I don't have the data for May but we will make a note and we will make sure
to have those dated. Do you have a sense just not exact numbers? Yep. The numbers continue to go down. Our percentages continue to drop both of principal suspension, superintendent suspensions and major incidents in our school. Could you remind everyone what the difference
I'm sorry just to what the difference is a principal suspension and a superintendent suspension just so we understand what that is. Yeah. Um the superintendent suspension is not facilitated by the superintendent but it is facilitated by a suspension office.
uh that is managed centrally. A principal suspension tends to be a very short suspension. In our district, it's usually one or two days. Uh and generally a principal suspension uh is issued for more minor infections. Um
there are series of incidences that occur and a principal may apply for a superintendent suspension for students. Um and then that is facilitated by a central office and that can extend for um from 6 days uh to really serious
influences can be much much longer. Do you have any followup on that? Sorry. Data for next. Um, so I was contacted by some parents uh this month because apparently a school district in Brooklyn announced that they're going to have geometry
middle school in a couple of schools in that district and there are literally parents who are now thinking about moving to the to that district because it's the only chance that they have of getting geometry middle school since they cannot pay for private school. And so my question is are there any plans
for us to add geometry in middle school in our district? And if not, how can we make this happen so we don't lose uh families who deeply care about math and are literally thinking about moving because of that? Um my understanding from the district in
Brooklyn that is looking to include geomet um is that the numbers of students who are participating in that program are very very small students. Um I think it's important to look at what the um interest of a program like that might be
in our district. We don't currently have plans to initiate geometry uh in our district for the coming year. Um and you know we will you know continue to look at that of interest. I will any kind of
decision like that is um a decision that needs to be done in partnership with the school um because it is a big impact on a school to be able to provide a new course like that. And so if there is a school where this seems like it is something that um the school community
is really fighting for um then we will work with that school community to see if we can make it happen. Follow up. Yeah, try ahead. all mod. Can you um unmute your
uh it might be your your sound might be better if you unmute. Let me just make you a host. Hold on. I'm going to make you a co-host. Oh, you're off. Okay. Okay. Just go. It's fine. Let's go. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Um,
yes. I'm somewhat surprised but delighted to hear you say that um quite interested in um parent activism around having advancing accelerated math classes because as you know Allison and I began the academic affairs committee
in the beginning of this year with the express purpose of bringing accelerated math programs to district 2. We have held two separate meetings and to your credit and I thank you for this you have attended those meetings. We held two separate meetings with um both subject
matter expert speaking and also speak of the devil Steven Stowe a council member from district 2 who has been from district 20 rather who has been essential in bringing accelerated math to his district specifically because of parent advocacy around those issues. and
Stephen spoke about how the effort that he had to do to bring those accelerated math options to the district. Um to be very polite about it, Kelly, you've been giving us the runaround. You asked Alison and I to you know have parents uh
that were interested in funding these programs get together. We did that. We created math leaison. You asked us to talk to principles of our schools. We have done that. Allison has done that. I've done that. some of our math lesson on parents have done that but you are the leader of the district and when
principles say we haven't received any instruction from the superintendent we haven't received any guidance from the superintendent um it becomes very very hard um to make the change that we're advocating for. I would like to hear from you concretely in addition to all
the steps that Allison and I have done and that other members of of of this council that have supported our efforts have done. Um what is it you would like parents to do to express to you our interest in having improved and accelerated math classes? Geometry in
middle school is a pipe dream for us at this point. It's amazing and I commend the parents of district 20 who have done it. We're asking to just take the existing third, fourth, fifth, and sixth graders and divide them in a way that the kids who are in the accelerated
ability and range can have math classes that challenge them. And we have pointed out to you that we have students in district 2 who are spending thousands of dollars a year to get outside math instruction. We have been um to put it politely you for an entire CEC term and
you've been ignoring us. So when you say to Daniela Edgaroff, "Oh, if there's some interest, we'll look into it. What interests is it exactly? Tell me and we'll do tell me what it is you need from us to do the accelerated math pilot program that we talked with you about two years ago. Tell us what you need
that would constitute interest and we will do that." Um, what I said that I love is the exact same thing that I said to you was that you need to go to your school communities. I know you need to some of your principles. I am waiting to hear
some of your principles want to come back and talk with me about the program. It is a heavy lift to be able to implement something like this. the resource need to be gathered and organized within that school community and if that's something that happens
within a particular school then we will work with that school and that school community in order to make it happen and that's and I've been consistent about that it's what I believe before I also want to make sure that folks know that some of the steps and we are all about
continuing to improve and accelerate uh the quality of mathematics in elementary and middle school in our Um, and so that's why we're working closely with a lot of schools that currently do not currently have curricula that um, need to be strengthened. And so we're going to
continue to work with those schools to strengthen their curriculum so that they are standards aligned so that they accelerate the challenge kids. But this is the resource that we across and so the school community needs to be a part
of that. Um, and so I think if you take the steps that you need to take and the principles come to me to talk to me about it, then I will talk with them. They want me to come to an SLT meeting. I will come to the SLT meeting to talk about it. Um, but that's the process
that needs to be followed in order to implement something like this. I just want so that we have it as part of the public record. I just want to be clear that when we first formed this committee, you invited Allison and I to speak with you and with um a deputy
superintendent um Kelly Shannon and I very much appreciated that outreach. I think I can speak for both Allison and myself, but we appreciated that outreach. But at the time um there was a sort of different version of what needed to happen because we both indicated that
we knew that there was intense interest in our respective school communities but you know in downtown schools. Um and we do have this very diverse and interesting district and we specifically had a conversation with you about how if we did a pilot program that it should be
at multiple different schools um that reflected some diversity in our school district. We can't as two individual parents or two individual council members go to the principles at different schools. We can tell you that our schools, we've talked to our principles and that they're, you know,
not at all telling us no, but telling us that they need direction from their superintendent. We need leadership from our superintendent to do a pilot program that would be in four or five or six different schools. We specifically talked about the downsides of doing them
in just spec one or two schools that were the schools of council members and that that would not be fair or right. So it can't be both, Kelly. It can't be, oh, I can only do it in your kids' school if your principal comes and talks to me and what you said to us previously, which is we need to have a
diverse schools throughout the district and do it as a pilot program. Those are two separate things and it can't be both at the same time. And I would just appreciate a little bit more consistency when we're talking about how to get a pilot program off the ground. And the other thing that I will say is this is
not a resourcerich environment. Yes, it takes time some leader and it takes time some teachers but taking existing classes and dividing the existing students with the existing teachers into ability groups is not resourceful inensive. It doesn't actually require
different books. It doesn't require different teachers. It doesn't require smaller or larger classrooms or different materials. It requires the will to talk to parents about the kind of education that they're seeking and that's what they're asking you to consider doing and to consider you
taking a lead on doing. I'm going to pass the microphone to Danielle something. I mean with all due respect, no prince is going to come to you and say they want to do that. And I've talked to so many principal I would be super excited to do
this. I know kids are reading novels in math class because they are bored. They have done this before but I cannot be involved because had Corenza chancellor here. They all went to that training where they said that punctuality was a white thing that grammar correcting
grammar and punctuation was like a white supremacy. They are afraid. They are afraid that anything that pushes academics will be they will be criticized. There will be an article. there will be you know protest and so no priest was going to come and say I want
this the parents are definitely saying some parents like myself are just planning to already took one kid out then we'll take another one out from middle school because you don't have good math for kids who can do high level math but unfortunately not every parent
can make that and pay for private school and so they're literally planning to leave the district because now there's another district where the parents with the superintendent, it was not that the principles raised their hands. The parents with the principal standards
developed this plan, they're going to implement and they are going to be able to provide a better math education for everybody because then you don't have kids who are like four different grade levels in the same class and some kids cannot even keep up with what's happening. Some are reading novels because they are so bored and this is
happening. Now this will continue happening until we have an avenue to have accelerated students. We meet their needs and I agree with Ma. We need your leadership. No prince is going to raise their hands because for so many years they've been told that this is wrong,
that there's an equal and that their job might even be in jeopardy because of that. I'm not saying that that came from you, but it definitely came from central. It came from the media. It came from everybody. And so they are not going to do that. We need as leaders to actually make this happen.
Respectfully, you don't mind me saying I we we judge ourselves on a measure of spending our time and our energy and our resources on improving the quality of learning in schools. That is where we
put our time. I agree. We know that many ways smart many ways of improving the quality of education in in our classrooms and we are I we spend all of our time on that uh almost exclusively and so I just I
want to I I'm not saying that and we I I'm not saying there's not a place for accelerated programs in district two schools. There is But I also want to say that our like northstar is improving the
quality of learning in classrooms for all things. I agree. Mine too. I spend most of my time writing about that. It is mine too. I spend more most of my time writing about things that do not impact my family. But this is an issue.
It's not an issue that's going to impact my family. We have found a solution. It is impacting a lot of families. And it's very unfair when you have like a single mother minority who lives in the project who comes and say I cannot pay for private school and my kid my oldest kid
was able to get a very good you know math advanced math in middle school and my youngest I know you won't get and I don't have an answer to that mother to say like this is the solution that our district's working on besides yeah start looking at district 10 apartments
because there your kids going to get that education and So, we need to work together, Kelly. We want to work with you. Let's find a a couple of schools. Let's do that. There is demand. You know that our district there is definitely demand. There's going to be parents knocking on the door. And let's make
sure that we I don't think I don't think John should be a private dream. It's like it's the basic that you can get when you have a city spending 36,000 per student. We are the top number one funding in the country. We are the most inefficient public school system in the
country. We spend so much money. We deliver mediocre results. We need to be able to deliver that. And here you have a parent community who wants to do that. And we need your leadership and you're willing to work with us. And let's make this happen. Hello. I'm I am really also super
excited to hear that you would want you know this conversation about advancing math that has also been my dream and the reason that I became part of C was that the math advance program at Wagner was taken away.
We had high standard math. We had phones are always listening. Yes. that you know I felt that we were going backward and to hear now and unfortunately now my child is you know have finished like that but for the
upcoming generations so many parents want and it's not for for and it's too awkward it's my fault it really wants me to shut up right that's my fault
there like myself many parents who want to bring advance and it's an option We want to have options. It's not taking away from anyone. It is allowing options. And this is perfect opportunity as we're hiring 130 plus teachers.
What's some geomet like to incorporate geometry teacher? I don't find that that's not difficult for our district of our size to have make that happen and to offer that to parents. I think you will be getting parents running to get back into the district that we are able to
offer geometry as right we have algebra we have and other schools are already offering that and bringing it at a younger age if a child wants it and that's an option and they test in at Wagner previously it was they did it an
assessment if you meet a certain standard and even if you qualify and you say I don't want it perfect that's fine it's an opt Awesome. Just like we have various other options, I think we should definitely offer that to our kids. And I really hope um look forward to seeing
those results happen. As my six-year-old is getting older, I hope by then they'll be able to take it or before that, ideally for everybody else. Thank you. Yeah, I just want to follow up with Council Member Brian just mentioned. Um, look, I know we're talking about
accelerated math and for those of you in the audience, you're probably thinking, "Oh, accelerated math, they're always talking about the highest performing students in the district. They're always talking about those who are doing really well. What about the what about the students who have other needs?" Um, I can tell you that I have um many of my
kids have had IEPs. So you know when it comes to students with needs or students with disabilities provide them we try to do our best to provide them with resources whether it's occupational therapy whether it's a sets whether it's a speech services whether it's
counseling I my children have participated in all of those things uh and by the same token I agree with um with pri that we I've always looked at education should be like a smorggas board and we should have our options and we should address the the differences in
students because not all students who are the same. There are students with different needs. There are students who have physical needs. There are students who have um psychological needs, emotional needs, and there are students who have academic needs. And we really should give them the options and give parents the options of having those needs fulfilled. So, I think that's what
it's about. So, I have to agree with the with the other members who have spoken earlier. It does seem sad that after two years, we're still in this situation. Uh I respect the fact that you've kind of compromised and given us a little uh here and there and some acceleration or
or or some screen programs, but the reality is we have to do more. We have to provide more options and we can do it. We can find the time in in in a curriculum. There's no reason why that can't be done. But I live on the same block as Russian School of Mathematics and I see parents lined up. Now I don't
necessarily agree with that because I think it's you know I mean you're joining the rat race kind of early. uh but the reality is they're there because their children are not getting the ser the educational needs that they in terms of advanced math in school. So they're
paying a lot of money on occasion and and and those are the parents who are fortunate enough to be able to afford those services. If you have children who can't because they either come from families that don't have those resources, what happens to them? They have no options. Their parents can't go
to the Russian school in mathematics. they have to either teach their kids on their own or they're out of luck. So, we really need to do a better job, I think, in providing options to our students and and and and that's we're partners. It should really be a partnership. I know
we deal with these social issues a lot in at the CC, but to me, it's all about the partnership between parents. You know, we'll work with you, but you got to work with us also. Let us have those options. Yes. Let us have those options.
Sorry. Okay. Yeah, I I can't say. So you you want Okay. Go ahead. Gota um there was a terrific student disabilities being held this week. Um and during
that there was discussion about expulsion showed us last month that the data available I mean I can tell you right now we have not expelled students
in since I've Superintendent we have not exposed the word so whatever data but to extent that yeah I would be happy to hear a little bit
more about what you're referencing um because I don't know exactly what we would like find in regard to legal suspensions, but we want to be transparent about what's happening with kids in our schools. I mean, I I just I want to
understand the question better. Is that better? Maybe. Um, okay. context of it. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I'm specifically referring to suspensions that may occur without following the proper protocol when if students are
removed from class to the extent that that is happening but not following the proper protocol. There may not be information on that. Um, but it was an issue that was brought up and and highlighted and so uh during that committee meeting. So, I was hoping that there might be some more information
that could be gathered around it. Thank you. Um, thank you. Thank you, Kelly. Um, I I just wanted to add actually outside of a CC2 meeting, I I've never heard anyone ever talk about Russian M. Um, not not a
thing that comes up in my my daily screen. Um uh I I was curious about the summer rising and um you talked about the the busing being available for um uh students who had busing on their IEPs for summer rising. I ju just to clarify
it's it's my understanding that the busing is only available for the academic portion of the day because it's usually the morning the morning is is the academic uh DE administered portion and the afternoon is the administered by the CBO. Um and the the busing contract
only is for the the morning portion. Is that correct? Yeah. And there's a couple other things too. Uh you are correct that um busing is the academic portion of the day. It is also for students who um have extended school
year. Um it is al busing is also available for students living in temporary housing. Um but that is the extended bus. So just for the just for the question um and then I wonder do you do you have some some data for us? you talked about
the 127 um in your presentation 127 teachers being um recruited like what what uh subject areas and grade levels uh those those will cover. I I definitely can get that for you. Um I don't have it right off hands. There are
I will say that there are some schools that were um that put forth plans that were only pertaining to one content area one grade level. There are some schools that put forth plans that pertain to all the grade levels in their school
building. Those school those schools are more teachers than those obviously that are just one grade level. Um but I can for you make a note. Um I can get you and I can
um Thank you. Okay. Can I say like one thing is um I am empathetic to this situation and my child is taking precise next year because middle school didn't have algebra in eth grade. So I
have like a um but I will say I mean I hired the superintendent of district 20 22 years ago a teacher uh I do know very quickly what's um uh they're doing in district 20. Um his
convers conversation with him and I actually led to part of the decision around putting algebra into every single one of our middle schools because we did want to make sure that kids um didn't have access to algebra regardless. We want to make sure
that all kids had access to algebra regardless of what middle school that they went to. Um and that would be a pathway to calculus um without having to go to summer school. And so um that is another step that we have
taken and certainly I think evidence the work that we are trying to do is make sure that we're meeting the needs of accelerated learners that are so as a part of our smart enough since you shared that I'd love to know where they're over the summer free
because I would love to take it back. That would be perfect. It's not free. Okay, thank you. I'm trying to find it. Okay, but I'm going to We can talk about that offline. Yes. Uh, any other questions? Sorry. Can
I just say one thing? I found it finally. Yeah, I do. I do I do want to move along. Okay, I know. I know. I know. I This is literally the last thing that I'm going to say. Where is it? Sorry, I'm getting
old. Oh, here. Okay. So, you're good. In the last 10 years, district two population went down 10% in in student population and district 20 and
down 7%. So they now have 32,000 students and we have around 22 sorry that right 22,000 students. Um I mean we're not talking about a district that you know there there are tiny districts in this city.
There are districts that have like less than 4,000 students now because they have lost uh you know 36 40% of their student population. We have enough people to make that happen like and we have space because as you as we all know
who are involved here there are some middle schools that are really struggling to attract um students. So if you actually can guarantee that, you know, children are going to have access to like advanced math, um it might
really convince some parents to go. But and and and we it doesn't even have to be, you know, at a middle school that is really struck hypothetical middle school that is really struggling students because of reputation. Um you know, it can we know
that there is space in some other in some other schools and so it can happen. The only thing that we need now is leadership to make it happen. Uh and I I cannot believe that district 20 principles to make this happen and we
cannot convince like a few to make this happen. Like there's just no reason for them to have this and we don't and like I just every time I hear the stories of these kids reading novels because you know or they are doing their own math like and it's not because they love
novels. These are mathy kids. They love math. It's just such a waste of talent and resources like in our city, in our country. Like we should just be advancing as many fees as as we can possibly can. And so let's make this happen as soon as possible.
Thank you. Thank you, Superintendent Magguire. Um, moving along. Report of committees. Before we talk about the bylaws, are there any committees that want to report? Gavin, do you want to talk? Y. Yeah.
So, um I'm chair of the students with disabilities committee. Um we had a meeting on on this this past Monday. Um we were um pleased. We are fortunate to have uh Roini Singh who's the director of the school justice project that
advocates for children presented to us on um on protections procedural protections for families who are whose students are you know um undergoing suspension um with special attention to uh the special protections available for
students with disabilities who are uh subjected to a school uh the school disciplinary process. So you talked about things like manifestation determination reviews and other things that excuse me are triggered when a student with an IEP or a 504 or a
student who has um who's who started the process of getting evaluated for an IEP or a 504 is um is suspended for 11 or more days. Um so this meeting came about because we know that in not just in our
district but citywide and statewide um students with disabilities make up a disproportionate um percentage of the students who are subject to school uh suspensions. Um students with disabilities account for about 20% of our students but they account for about
50% of suspensions. Uh we also know that black students account for in our district about 80% of students fed about 24% of suspensions and this is similar citywide. Um so we talked about some of those kind of broader sort of policy
issues but we also talked about some some things that were just helpful for families who are in this you know in the thick of this process who you know have received the notice that their their child is being suspended. Um and the the
meeting um the video is already available on our website. Um um I think I think um probably tomorrow we will also some additional resources that advocates for children shared with us. um both some some data about about
suspensions and about discipline in New York City and also some other sort of toolkits that could be helpful for any any parent who has has a child who has is facing the school disciplinary process both um and I just want to thank um thank um Kelly McGuire our
superintendent for attending that presentation and also thank uh thank our administrative assistant Victor for um for all of his support. So thank you. Right. Check and see if there were joining us via Zoom.
Um, but while we were sitting here, one of the districts that Alison and I spoke to our last meeting wrote to us to say that they had spoken to their principal and ascertained interest in this program and
wanted to um pass it along to Allison and I, that their principal was keen to learn more about how it could happen. I'm gonna pass that information along to Superintendent Meguire uh tomorrow. Uh but this is something that we're having robust interest from parents and um it's
literally happening as we're sitting here now. I won't go into the details of the last meeting because we've covered the the math the accelerated math program rather since this evening, but there continues to be great. Thank you. I will add one thing to that Craig that people may not be aware of.
The task force that we put together with parent leaison uh reaches parents in nearly half of the district's 50 schools in terms of having representative to be this task force on from that school. Uh, and I would encourage any parents who
are out there right now in the audience on Zoom or see this later, if you are interested in either being that liaison for your school if we don't have someone already or you're just generally interested in supporting this effort, please reach out to M or myself. Our
contact information is on the CDC website. Thank you. Thank you. uh and uh for the uh meeting that uh Gavin was alluding to uh just where you can find it if you want to watch the recording. It's actually in three different places
so you can choose any one. It's our YouTube channel CECD2. It's also on our website www.ced2.net. If you go under past meetings, if you go into the meeting, it's actually this the the video is there also on there. If you look at there's a menu on the menu on top it
says committees and students with uh students with disabilities is is one of the committees and it's on that page as well. So any of those three places you can find the meeting. Okay. Uh bylaws Jessica do you want to talk about it?
Thank you. So, we brought this last time and I guess the way this works is now we actually have an opportunity to vote on it. Um, I'll I'll briefly review again the point of this bylaw amendment. One of the main roles of council members is to vote on resolutions. Right now,
attendance and presence at meetings is not tied at all to whether a member is present for voting per our bylaws. Nor is there an opportunity to hold members accountable for their absence during voting, even if their absence consistently hampers the entire
council's ability to vote on resolutions due to lack of quorum. This bylaw amendment seeks to remedy this problem by providing simply just clarity and a formal definition about what it means to attend a meeting so that there isn't um impetus to abuse
the loophole that currently exists. Thank you. Thank you. Is there any discussion? Yes. Uh I would actually support this. The only thing that I'm concerned about is
the voting which I guess technically I I get what you're talking about because we don't have a quorum we can't vote. But if we have a quorum and someone's absent and they don't vote, then their vote doesn't count. Um my problem is that because these meetings have run quite long and um as we know sometimes our
votes don't take place till almost 10:00 and there are many of us here um that have some issues with that particularly because we might have children. I mean I actually have to administer some medication. my wife isn't capable of doing it, but um you know there's there's issues that all of us have that
we sometimes can't stay until the end of the meeting. I understand what you're saying about whether or not that's you know maybe some abuse taking place but um my only issue is that um when you include president the voting you're kind of saying that you have to stay till the
very end of the meeting basically because that's when our voting is. So that's the only issue I have with this otherwise I would support this. Yeah, just I'm gonna just piggyback and then you can come out because it's it's the same comment. I I actually was getting to the same place. I I'm okay with the hour. I think that's that's reasonable.
Um I I I again I also get what you're what you're alluding to, Jessica. I I I get the concern, but what I do have an issue with is if somebody is sitting in this room for three and a half hours and has to leave because they have to leave. We're all parents, you know, things
things happen. then you're equating them with someone who isn't here at all. And and I don't think that's that's fair. I would be supportive of the one hour portion. I I don't know. I I do I'm also like Lynn a little bit uncomfortable with the you have to be here for the
vote uh portion because that that concerns me a bit. And I get what you're saying. I get your concerns. I know it. But I think that could be abused in terms of excusing trying to bump people off. Just to clarify, it's not
Therefore, you are penalized and saying you're just going to be subject to the rules that wouldn't exist otherwise and provide um provide an excuse for a reason. It's it's essentially holding us accountable.
You can still be asking. We're all We all have reasons to be and we included and you know and it's an excuse. Okay, that's the only Well, I I think that who makes that decision, does the president, whoever he or she may be, did they make that
decision about what constitutes an act of action excusable? Because to be honest, I don't necessarily have confidence one way or the other that a particular president might find one thing excusable and one thing not excusable. I don't disagree with that personally, but if that's the same thing
that I mean, this is literally just taking what's already there. If someone has a better suggestion, I mean, I would I would not limit it to this. I would just like to try to find a way to help all of us be held a little more accountable. Well, one suggestion would be to shorten
to make sure the voting takes place a lot earlier, maybe by shortening the um the meeting somehow. But again, it's hard to, you know, to do that. Can I go? We'll get Gavin and then and then I mean I keep going back to a meeting we had I
think in August or September of 2023 where we proposed amendments to more hybrid meetings. you know precisely you know these kinds of issues. There are you know council members who have
you know who have children that they need to you know they need to assist they have some of us have elderly parents who who also need need care. Um and you know sometimes it makes sense if we have for
person circumstances to be able to dive into the meeting and and we pro we try to provide a pathway for them and and so I guess I'm hearing this but I'm not really thinking that it's like I
want I want to leave that is in good faith and concern about the the needs of the council members but we had an option for a way to accommodate everyone. We could do our business to the council, do our service to the public, but at the
same time take care of. So, you know, I think that this is a very reasonable um very reasonable proposal. We already have the um the grounds. So I don't think this is really creating
that much of a burden for me. Great. Thanks. So I want to understand the you were saying that for example in two years twice once my nanny had to leave and once my child
fell and I had to immediately leave this building and saying telling only Craig I have an emergency and that would be the same thing as if I had an excuse would be like documented and at the time actually felt that maybe Craig should share it with everyone but he said it's no one's pro you know business this
needs to be private so it would be not counted that I am absent the entire time because my child fell and I have to leave or because my nanny has to. Yeah, that would be an excuse. That would be an excuse. No, no, that would be an excuse. Just right. I I sorry, let me
let me let me So that would So I would mean that as an excusal. I don't know that whoever my successor would be would would do it. But in theory, you I would think the human thing would be give you an excusal. I cannot guarantee that whoever my successor winds up being
would would do that or the council in general. [Music] and nothing but respectful when I have to ask for if I overshare why I'm
on you knowice like I'm okay but we should respect each other and if you have to leave because of an issue with your child or home or didn't make that money. I don't even care
if it's fine. You're excused. We're adults. We're asking adults and professionally. If I walk out of my job and I just don't tell my boss why I maybe forget what
it's like to have a boss, but your boss is and if I just bounce without saying I think it's going to be a repercussion and I think we deserve to show the same respect to the community and our colleagues. This is not a big ass and
again I tell my boss I got to go because I got to get you know she might not tell everybody at work but exactly that is what happened which was informed but it made it seem that I think team members have made it seem
like oh you just walked out when I did notify who's informed if it doesn't apply let it fly guys it's talking about you don't just then there's an issue but you haven't the the audience cannot this is
not this is a business this is the business session unfortunately we we don't take comments now no we don't we don't take comments thank you so okay any do you want to say something just just again I'm not sure because I'm
not sure I follow Robert's rules it made known that um members or at a meeting are marked present at the attendance. So I don't know to what extent that is going to supersede the bylaws which I think it would. So actually sorry Sarah
let me let me let me let me comment because it'll help you this. So I actually did check with with uh with DOE legal and this would be ac this this these would be acceptable according to DOE legal. I did check that out. That's how it works. last month. Okay.
I Any other comments? It sounds to me I'm just going to I'm going to say it is that this will pass if you have just the hour piece. This will probably not pass if you you you include the whole thing. So Jessica, so I'm just trying to get some kind of
compromise. Do you you know do you want to amend to try to get something pass? No, I understand it. Just I'm trying I'm trying to get something. I'm not trying to be arrogant. I'm trying. No, just remove the including during the voting, right? It would just be the one
hour requirement. I mean, take an hour for an hour. Yeah. I I I mean, I don't want to speak I don't want to speak for Sorry, Jessica. I don't want to speak for the other council members, but that my sense is it would probably get passed and my sense is it would not get
passed with the whole thing. No, no, no. It would just be for the minimum of the hour. He's complaining people. So just number one would remain. No, we move and including during the vote. Right.
No, it would be anything of and including and including during the voting on resolutions. Right. So it stop at minutes. This I can't see you're sorry. Yes, we
do. Right. Give us a second. Well, you're comparing people to stay data for an hour. It's up to I'm leaving it up to you. I mean, if you want to just It's one hour. It doesn't have to
be like from 6 to 7. Yeah, I understand. That's what I think you her Jessica's intent was. [Music] I I I'm not I don't want to speak for other council members. I suspect that if
you remove that, this will get broke. This will get passed. That's what I'm saying. You'll get my vote. If the language around including is removed and require only that's my guess that would be my
guess. I mean I don't know for meeting [Music] she didn't she didn't leave. She's she's not leaving. She's just dis sorry bylaws bylaws. Yeah, it's report of committee's bylaws.
I know. Okay. So, Jessica, sorry. I want to move this forward. What do you want to do? [Music] I don't think there's any more. Okay. You want to make a motion then? Jessica, you want to make a
motion? Sure. Should we wait for Alison to come back? Okay. Do you want to wait? I will let you decide. Do you want to do you want to wait for return and we can just go to the next discussion first resolution or do you want to go with that?
I'll leave it up to you, Jessica. I'm giving you all the power. Okay, that's fine. It's fine. She she left. She uh is right here. A second. Okay. Take the vote. Yes. I'll take Okay. Do we I'm sorry.
Did we have a second? Sorry. Second was just make that form also. So the mo the motion presently is the proposed by revisions included in the um in the hand.
Okay. Check for the Russian. Yeah. This low edit is not just right. Okay. Okay. I'll call people. Okay. Prepar. No. Prepar. No. Allison Bowen. Allison Bowen is not here. She's She's not here.
She She's here, but she steps in the restroom. She's in the restroom. She go to the Okay. Daniela Egarov. I'll vote yes. Daniellea grew up. Yes. Gavin Healey. Gavin Healey. Yes. Uh Charles Love is not here. Ma Marin. Mod
Marin is no. Son Patel. Son Patel is Yes. Jessica Savage. Jessica Savage. Yes. Sarah Shaka Arinberg. Sarah Shaker Aronberg. Yes. Sabina Sarin is not here. Leonard Silverman Leonard Leonard Silverman is abstain.
and Craig Slutskin is a no. And then we'll ask the student reps. Laya Jason. Oh, she left. Okay. Sorry, I didn't see that. Uh, Ale, she's not here. Alexander Stillman. Yes. Yes. Alexander Stillman is a yes. The motion does not pass. It's
5 to 3 to one, right? 5 to 31. Okay. Yeah. We'll move forward. So, discussion discussion of resolutions. Five. Yeah. Yep. Five to three to one. Right. Alison. Oh, we need to ask.
Oh, okay. She's absent. She's absent. That's fine. Okay. Discussion of resolutions. We'll start off with resolution 272, resolution to affirm CC2 support of NYCPS's guidelines to support transgender and gender expansive students and resend resolution 248. Does
anybody wish to speak to the resolution? Gavin. on my seat. Don't nug me. Don't Don't, you know, hurt anybody's head. You're already I don't trust you with Alexand Alexandra. I see the way you look at
her. I'm just kidding. Okay. Um so um so I've spoken um resolution 48 kind of lost track but I'm still comments and I'm not
I'll speak about it. Um I you know I expected what will happen today. Um I think that it's a surprise. Um but um but they'll be back next month and I'll speak about then um in
July and other people with the meeting will be here in July. Um and uh and we'll keep trying and um and eventually eventually we will
do I need to play Vanna. Thank you Gavin. Is there anybody else who wishes to speak on the resolution? Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah, but do you want to unmute yourself because it might it helps the people
home? Thank you. I gota I gota here I'll promote you also. Sorry too hard. Okay. Okay. Thank you. So I just want to say um that I've heard some of the same comments again and
again and again. I think this marks 15 months of protesting a resolution that asked for a conversation. It asked for a review. The resolution that I wrote and that eight members in this council voted for was contentneutral. It said we
should have a conversation about biological males in female sports. This is nothing specific to District 2, New York City, New York State. This conversation is happening all over our country. And I just want to say that the
absolute false allegation that our community is comprised of mostly non-parents who sit in this audience, I recognize that there are parents, and I'm glad that they come, but mostly non-parents led by a non-parent who is not a parent in this district who raises
money off of these activities and repeatedly um disrupts the actual function and purpose of this meeting. um is something that has created an absolutely hostile environment to the young girls who I asked to include in
this conversation, female athletes. The fact is there were young female District 2 athletes at the June 2024 meeting who came to speak and those young women were run out of the room by many of the people here and other activists who
hummed and jered and taunted this. The activists in this room have been particularly vicious to lesbians, young and old, who have come up here. That laughter is the laughter that I hear is so perfectly indicative of how
hostile to gays and lesbian the trans movement has become. I will also say with regard to creating a hostile environment for female students in district 2 and their parents, that the elected leaders who
wrote a letter to our council calling this resolution bigoted um and calling us likely to cause harm by asking for a conversation have made this space absolutely impossible for young women who want to speak. some of whom wouldn't
agree with me but do have very real concerns about the integrity of female sports. I know because I've spoken to those people. I have spoken to parents and I have spoken to students. The the folks in here I I am the rudeness of people who
interrupt is just so indicative of the disrespect of this movement. The fact of the matter is this space has become deeply unfriendly and to young women who want to have the conversation. Some of
whom would be much would not agree with me about everything but who want to have a conversation about how female athletes can have female sports while also respecting their trans peers, some of whom they go to school with and some of whom they're really deeply concerned
about. I know. I've had those conversations with young women and with their parents. It should surprise nobody here that those young women. Please stop interrupting. It's so rude. No young woman is We're going to We're going to let We're going to let the council speak
now. You're going to let the council speak now. Thank you. If you want to speak in the public session, please speak in the second public session. You can sign up. Thank you. And I will say to the young student who spoke about learning in biology
about biological sex, biological sex is binary. There is just no. Okay. Can we can can we can if if you if you want to speak in this if you want to speak, we can speak in the second public session. I welcome anybody to do. But thank you. Go ahead. And
it is in It is entirely possible to have different views about how to accommodate athletes who have strongly different ideas about what a gender non-conforming or gender
dysphoric young person should do when it comes to participating in sports. And to not um engage in the pseudocience nonsense that people can change sex because they can't. Talk to lunch. Talk to us. Yeah,
talk to us. Okay. Okay. If you if you want to Okay. Okay. If you This is why the meetings go till 10 o'clock. Go to the end. If you want to speak, please I welcome you. Please speak in sign up for the second public session and listen to you. Thank
you. One more. I will say one more thing which is that at the beginning of this term, we are at the very close of the this CEC term. At the very beginning of this term, I spoke with Allison Bowen about starting an academic affairs
committee so that we could talk about an accelerated math program. And we met more than once with Kelly McGuire, with Superintendent McGuire and Deputy Superintendent Kelly Shannon. I did not ask for this conversation. The fact of the matter is
a 74 million reporter took private what's ups from a community from a group that I had been in that was founded to talk about toddler masking and it was a group of parents privately talking about our thoughts on a whole range of issues
and I said what I believe to be true. Um, and I certainly have as many rights as any other American to have my opinions about what the trans ideology is doing with youth and particularly how it can be harmful for for gay youth and for artistic youth.
I did not ask for the conversation, but to be clear, my private what'ss up were published in a magazine and folks on this council with me decided to bring a resolution um that was not going to pass as written. Craig and Len, who have much
more patience than I do, spoke with them about that resolution, offered modifications for how it could be passed. Um, my resolution that I wrote was a response to the continual harassment I was getting with regard to the fact that my private and personal
WhatsApp messages were published. I had this as a conversation. The fact remains, the fact remains this past 8 to3 and while I respect all of my council members for speaking, you know, for voting as they thought was
appropriate, the chancellor at the time made it excessively clear that our non-binding advisory resolution was not going to be adopted. It ended there. And the fact that this resolution to rescend and the reaffirm resolution has been
going on forever is doing nothing but creating an unsafe and hostile environment for young women who actually do want to have the conversation that I asked for. It's really ugly and you should all be ashamed of yourself for engaging in it. just thank you because they can't hear
me on Zoom and I don't know if you want to say anything good but I would like to call out two points about professions that I actually am not part of but I can at least do some basic reading. Um, I know that you and your um, buddy over there uh, who is running the country don't agree with the NIH, but I'm gonna
agree with science. Um, and I'm gonna say that uh, although sex is typically and is conceptualized as a binary, many other chromosal arrangements, inherent variations in gene expression patterns and hormone levels exist. Interex core categorizations include variations in
chromosomes present, external genitalia, gonads, hormone. So whatever, it's not a binary. That's basic science. And you can have your own opinion, but your science is bad. Seconds, seconds. And and bad science. Listen.
Listen. I was raised by an immunologist. She has been gone for 18 years. I loved her very much. My mother was amazing and she was smart. And this and I would cannot let bad science stand. Second, you are an attorney and you know that you do not put anything in writing.
don't want read in open court or in front of your boss. So, I'm sorry. I am sorry. I think about that every day. I tell my children that every day. I hope we all keep that. You don't put anything in writing. You don't run rent in open
court. That's the risk you take. I'm sorry you put your stuff out there. Maybe try Signal. I hear you guys love that thing because it autos. All right. So, thanks. Okay. Oh, sorry. So, let's Okay, let's make it quick because it's
already it's almost 9 o'clock. You know, we had a very long um something over there. So, um I I'll take your time as well. Um yeah, this I don't know. It sounds like like something was missing in your accelerated biology
course. But yeah, let me just say this is, you know, this is not a conversation that we're seeing in in other community. There's a single other
community in New York City um that has um resolution president is only season it in January 2024.
um some of the some of the people in this room um you know were there as panelists um and then and then this was an astro term just ridiculous stuff that you
brought to this you put us in a swamp for immediate attention and I mean I think you all apologize you know, disputes apology and I think that it's just a testament to
the lack of respect that this council has had for the fans and you know I'm sorry the the election is over so I'm sure someone will will file again but I just want to say that you
know a group called NYC endorsed seven members council and also voted for resolution to challenge the right of transex girls to participate in sports that coincide with their gender identity. All seven all seven of the
people. So you know I think we deserve I think our I'd like to I'd like to one minute I want to move forward. This is not the meeting. I have been quiet the whole year that this resolution that we've
been talking about when resolution I appreciate ma that you brought up why I put forth that resolution when we came in that day that when you read a resolution asking to have a meeting a discussion an open forum of any kind I
will vote for that because that's asked me to have a discussion and I don't feel there's anything wrong with that and to I want to also highlight since we're you know the elections are over that you're saying about um reports
against council member cursed me out privately walking out having a discussion and I wanted to be noticed because I stayed quieting after we had we can have disagreements. I believe in professionally discussing and everyone
is allowed to disagree but to say I hope you die to say that I hope you have to say to forget healing to say you're a piece of youund times while there was no one in the audience yet
and there's evidence there's cameras there's cameras to proof that we're not I'm having a discussion here right And I have stayed quiet and listened and listened and listened for you to go on and on every meeting because I respect
Okay. Okay. We're going to we're going to stop if we can't hear our speaker or our council members because I respected the public forum. I understood that our job here is to want to see and our job here is to
listen. But but for there to be times when you have put other council members down, you put me down, you put others and yet I have only given you respect. I have only understood and tried to understand everything the resolution
that was put forth. I did it in my capacity to understand the best extent and not make it political which I feel like you have every opportunity to make it political. We're we're gonna move on. We're gonna move on. We're not
talking about the resolution. Someone also wants to say something directly to a defamator comment. We really need this we don't get a chance. We have two other resolutions that we need to speak about. We have to be quick. First of all, I never said
that about you. Um, for you I I did say that. So So you were filming students in the in the audience and and you told me that you were filming them because some of the students lie and they are coach and I said and I was walking out of the
room and you followed me out of the room yelling at me and I said you were full of I didn't say you're a piece of I said you were full of I said colloquialism just means you're saying something really ridiculous and absurd. Okay. And let me just say that there are lots of subjects we do not
have conversations about. Like should should this council introduce a resolution saying should students with disabilities be allowed to be educated in classrooms in general education classrooms? Should this council pass a resolution saying let's let's have a conversation about whether you know black kids have to sit on the back of
the bus like we don't have those conversations. Okay. So and then we're going to move we're going to move to the next resolution. [Music] Education next month asking for a conversation as to
[Music] whether having that conversation. Okay, we're going to move forward. Anyone don't have to answer that. We're going to now discuss the next resolution. Resolution 273, resolution to amend chancellor's rag 8660 to
mandate citywide PATA revenue sharing. Does anybody wish to speak to that? Danielle can start and go. Can I explain why I vote for this resolution? Uh the only thing that accomplish is the
relationship between school and said do you feel the problem public schools? I have reached the top to you. We are the number one state and city in public funding for school. We are spending almost 36,000 per year.
We're very inefficient. That's the only uh area where we are number one. We are the most inefficient public school system in the country. We produce mediocre results with the highest funding. The problem of the schools is not more money. That's not the budget of
New York City has only increase in absent terms and per pupil terms for everyone. Uh so the only the problem not public schools it's how the schools function and that's why this
resolution will solve any problem and it will only accomplish getting the donations to PJs to zero Jessica. Oh okay I didn't see you. Sorry. Yeah. So is okay. Um, so kind of against that
point, I do think that having so sure New York City public schools may be some of the best in the nation. However, I have worked with over 400 students in these schools and I see discrepancies between schools with high amounts of PTA funding and low amounts of PTA funding.
Right? The premise of the New York City public school is that um, family income should not be a barrier to receiving a quality education. And I feel like Mhm. PTA kind of sure like it's great that we have parent engagement in these schools,
but if we were to more equitably um distribute these resources, I think that we can contribute to a more equitable school system because I've seen these I've seen Jessica. Thanks. Um following up back on what was just
said, um this is a complicated issue. everybody understandably has a lot of strong feelings about. I definitely don't have all the answers. Um, not pretending to, but I think most people would agree or maybe some people could
agree that schools are not resourced all the same across the city. Um, and I have to believe that there's a way to help more kids without taking anything away from other kids. This resolution is not suggesting we pull all
PTA funds. I don't think that would be conceptually correct to do. It would negate the point of PTAs and on factory level, yes, that would probably gut participation and contributions. This resolution only suggesting we create a modest mechanism for sharing resources
once a certain threshold was met, ensuring that all children regardless of their neighborhood have access to the basic supports for their learning and their development. It's not a zero sum game. We could be talking about the difference spent on a dollar where those extra cent to well school and can make a
dramatic difference to schools with much less. I think we're able to move the needle towards more equitable education for all kids without harming the excellence of any individual school. And if we actually are able to achieve that
and reflecting on it one day, I personally wanted to be on the right side of history when thinking about it, which is why I wanted to be part of this. Um, I'm I'm personally not sure if this is the best way to get to the solutions we're looking for, but it is certainly a
way to drive a conversation in the right direction that we should. Okay. One second. Yeah. One second. Okay. Have a good night. Sorry. Just one second. Check. So I want to respond a little bit
to mention it but uh received numerous letters opposition to this resolution and also numerous letters in support of this resolution and I want to address a little bit of sort of the messaging and the fearing
that I've seen around and the number of WhatsApp chats the number of um ways in which the opposition lawyer was distributed family dist, you know, this idea that if I give
$500, maybe $100 to my school and somewhere between five and 10 of that gets distributed to another school that is in more need and then the fact the fact that some of the schools get $10 is going to make me not give $100 at all or
completely leave the New York City school system, which is one of example in terms to why people should oppose this. Not only can everyone stop giving, but everybody will leave the school system and say that it's a private tool
on $100. So, you know, I think that there is some real value to this conversation and again because we're starting a conversation, I hope you will vote for this resolution in how to structure something more. We are not talking about I'm giving my school $100
and it's going to end up in the Bronx. That is not it at all. And anybody with any intelligence would know that. We've also had some objection legality. There is absolutely no judgment. Nothing that prevents one 501c3 from giving money to
another 501c3. So we received a beautiful email from a former council member with so much misinformation and I would urge this community, everybody who is for or against this resolution to really think about what the mechanism
might look like and that it is possible. Districts across the country do this. This is not some idea we pulled out of the masses to destroy district two. This is something that is a move towards equity in public schools and there are
models and there are ways in which this can happen without destroying anyone's morale interest in school ballet classes. This is just another form of trying to make our public schools and district 2 equitable and I am surprised
at the messaging and the fear mongering and the resource wording that I have seen all day long. this red hair and fear that no Let's go. Come on. But I would also um just point out that this conversation
is a bit of a déja vu. We went through this on this particular council back in 2018. There was an extended back and forth of resolutions supporting and then refuting this idea. then count city council member Mark Trager who is the head of the education committee brought
forth a bill in city council about in response to this discussion to have um because local community boards also took up the discussion and they passed a bill in city council to have reporting from uh PTAs which did nothing but make volunteer parents have a more ownorous
job to to uh rep have more details to report didn't do anything to help raise mons more money or fully fund the extracurricular programs at PTA PTA's fund. Um, and that's because it's not legal to mandate redistribution of funds. PTAs are 501c3s and they are constituted under New York state law.
And if you give money to a 501c3 whose purpose is to support the extracurricular activities of school X, school X can't turn around without a vote by that particular PTA to give money uh to another institution. It
would violate the bylaws of that 501c3. Now, a 501c3 can choose to give money to another school. My children's elementary school did that when we supported the creation of a a garden in a district one school that had the highest population
of homeless students in that district. Um, and that was a vote by the PTA who the parents of that school elect and it was properly constituted under the bylaws and the laws that govern the 501c3s uh in New York State. So, that's already
possible. The other thing that's possible is to take out your checkbooks and send a check to every school in the city that you think needs that extra five or $10. There's nothing stopping anyone from donating to the PTA of any school. There's no mechanism needed to
give money to the schools that you think our individual schools in this district should be funding. It's not legal to compel 501c3s to give their money to other people. It's not practicable for the reasons other people have said. And this virtue signaling resolution has
been done before and all of these arguments have been heard before. I'm now going to read council member Love's statement. The P in PTA stands for parents. If parents are volunteering their personal funds with the intent to help their kids school, why should the government have a say in how those funds are spent? We already have tax funds
specifically dedicated to assist economically disadvantaged students. Make the case to increase those funds if you like, but don't try to manage our families incomes. People have the right to spend their personal funds as they see fit. This includes helping underresourced communities. Why don't the sponsors of this resolution and
their supporters donate to their PTA and a school in another community? Surely your PTAs are already doing this. Further, the letter we received from supporters of the resolution states, quote, once a certain threshold is met. End quote. Who gets to dictate this threshold? Finally, as with most of the
resolutions proposed by these sponsors, I know this is fueled by emotion and therefore not well thought out. Therefore, I feel obligated to point out that the actions of consequences in this would undoubtedly lead to people reducing, if not eliminating what they donate to their PTA. While it is a wonderful thing to have compassion for
all this misguided resolution must be defeated like all other proposals designed to put other students needs ahead of D2 students, our purview is solely D2 and there is no logical way that taking money from D2 students by force would be beneficial to D2 students.
Thank you, Mike. Uh, I know Lynn wants to speak. Just one one comment I want to make before Lynn speaks. Thank you. We we did receive a lot of letters, a lot of emails on this subject, and I want to thank everybody who took the time to write the to send a letter. We do appreciate it. No matter which way you
you you uh feel on this. Uh we do appreciate getting the the feedback. Uh there was and this is not exact amounts but it's roughly because there were people who were still sending tonight about 50 people 50 emails in support and about 500 against just so people have a
sense roughly and and I it may be a little bit off but it's roughly that number. Um Len I know you want to say something. No, I would like to congratulate the sponsors of this uh particular resolution number 273 for
having the brilliance and courage to wait until after the CC elections to bring this resolution because I am sure that the PTA appearance associations school of the future lab middle PS6 and
Clinton and not to mention our student representatives Hunter College and Clinton who would love to have known only his opinions and that this resolution was being sponsored in the first part. So I I'm curious and I will leave this as a rhetorical question which maybe can be answered later as to
whether or not the sponsors of this resolution discussed this with the parents associations and their respective schools before they brought this resolution. Now, I also want to say I would like to congratulate Council Member Healey for amazing me tonight because in his introduction introductory
remarks of this resolution, he specifically said this resolution is about quote starting a conversation. Where have I heard that language before? I heard it in resolution 248. Now we hear it tonight. So, I just want to point that out to
you, you people in the audience. I think you should know that. Now, why am I qualified to speak on this resolution? I'm qualified to speak on this resolution for a couple reasons. One, I know about PTAs. I know about parents associations because I served six years
on parents associations, probably starting my involvement long before the children were born of a number of members of the sponsors of this resolution. I served four years as a PTA president. I served one year as a PTA vice president. I served as a grade rep. But that's not why I'm qualified to
speak on this resolution. I'm qualified to speak on this resolution because I was there for 10 annual auctions. I was there for fundraisers, bake sales, pie drives, every single type of fundraiser you can imagine at those respective
schools. So, I know how hard it is to raise money for respective school. And let me tell you something. When you are a parents association member, whether you are specifically if you're on the board of a parents association, you are
constantly trying to raise money. You are constantly trying to engage the parents of your school. And what the sponsors of this resolution don't understand is that money that is raised by parents is specifically tailored to specific programs in an individual
school. So whether it's um teaching assistance, whether it's um whether it's uh computers that might be needed, whether it's a lab, a project, whatever it is at a specific school, that is the appeal. And you have to work very hard. It is a non-stop job to try to raise
money from parents. It is not easy. It is not easy. And let me tell you something, the funds raised by parents association, this is the fundamental misconception that the sponsors of this resolution have. They equate the the the the money raised by parents associations
at schools in our district as a sign of affluence. It is not a sign of affluence. It is a sign of parent engagement. And the schools that raise the most money actually have the parents who are most engaged. That is a fact. I
you may not and and it's true. Yes, it is true. And I've been I have my I have attended my students have my kids have attended six different schools in this district and it and it runs the gamut. Some of those PTAs I my I had a student PS6. We have a we have a member here I
believe has a student PS6. They raised a lot of money. Yes, they raised a lot of money. I had I was at other schools that didn't raise much money but it was always a struggle to raise that money and tailor it to individual programs. Now you go to parents and you tell them an annual drive. Well, you know what?
We're raising money but a percentage or portion. It doesn't matter whether it's $5, $10. The point is the parents are donating because they know that that money is going to be targeted for their specific school that is going to benefit their specific children. And and and I'm sorry people disagree with that, but
that's a fact that and and and as Craig said, as council member said, that's the reality. Okay? If people want to contribute or donate to other schools, make it optional. There's nothing preventing people from writing checks to other schools. Maybe the DOE should have
a website saying which schools need more money. But as council member Agarov pointed out, it's not the money. That's the thing. We get into this crazy thinking. We think, "Oh, it's all about money. It's we and we get organized around things. Oh, war on poverty, war
on drugs. Let's spend more money." Well, Council Member Edgar, I've told you, we spend $36,000 a year for students in in this in public schools in New York. Are you seeing the results? Are you seeing the results? And I'll tell you, it's not because of the money. The money is not
the special sauce that make schools in district 2 special. Yes, it's the it's the leadership of the district. I'll give Kelly Magcguire some credit for this. It is the teachers in the district. I'll give the teachers credit. But it is mostly what counts the most is
the parents who are engaged. The people who go home and read with their children, who engage their children every single night and tell their children, work with their homework. That is the number one special sauce that makes a good school and that's it. So if you think money is the thing that's
going to be this magic sauce and let's ball into this ideology, well let's take it away from some people and that makes one school so much better because they have resources. It's not true. So I am opposing this resolution for many reasons. Uh and I really this is this is
a chilling effect. First of all, this resolution is of course like all of our resolutions except for zoning. It is it is just you know it is just an advisory opinion but I do think it sends a chilling message and I remember a number of years ago and I also might want to say I served six years uh on the
district 2 president's council five years as the co-president of that organization which was made up of the um PTA presidents and andor their designated representatives for the 48 schools we have in this district. So I know a little bit about this topic. It is always a struggle to raise money. We
want that money designated. parents want that money designated for their specific schools. That's the reality. Stop dividing people. Stop saying it's all about privilege and that that privilege and money is what's making the difference here. It's not money. You can throw title one money. You can throw all
sorts of money at the problem. It's never going to make up for that parent who engages with their child, puts the time and the effort in, spends the effort for that. And that's what really makes the difference. So, I'm voting against this reason. [Music]
So I have a couple of comments. First of all, uh suggesting that to your point that this is starting a conversation, I can appreciate starting a conversation and this is an important conversation to have how we fund our schools and and how we fund our extracurricular activities. I think it's a very good very good thing
to discuss. However, the resolution calls for a mandate. So that's not a conversation. the co the problems that I I mean I have several problems and I agree with Len and I agree with Ma on this but there's not necessarily accountability if I'm giving money to my PTA I go to my PTA meetings I look at
the budget I have the right to express my opinion about the budget where the money is being spent is it spent on teachers or spent on professional development for the teachers is it spent on events or is it what what have you or is it on you know is it speakers for the for the students or for the kids I have
the right to to give my opinion on that I have the right to vote for that. I have the right to vote against it. If this money goes to another school, I'm giving money, but there's no accountability that I know of. I don't I have no knowledge that it's not going to teacher appreciation breakfast or parents appreciation breakfast. I have
no idea. The other thing I will say is I do resent the the comment that I think it was someone that made that, you know, if you're just if you're giving $100, you don't want to you can give five $5 of it. You know, you don't want to talk to people. You don't want to be in the room with people who would have a problem with that. That assumes that we
are not giving money to other places. Yes, I give money to my PTA and I raise money for my PTA. I raise a lot of money from a foundation to give to my PTA. I work hard for that. That being said, oh, I'm sorry. I think there's no sound. There is. Uh that being said, um I also
give to museums so they can open up their doors for free to students. I give I give Okay. Well, I give money to cancer research. I give money to ALS research. Okay. I think so. I give money
to a lot of other things. So, just because this money isn't going to other schools doesn't mean this money, my money, my dollars that I work hard for aren't going to other very good causes. Thank you. Any other for you want to speak?
That therefore it be resolved. is asking for to amend the chancellor's regulation A660 and it's not asking for a conversation. Thank you. Okay. Any other discussion on this or can we move I don't know if I can speak for
everybody. I I would be fine with amending if there's a conversation or some word other than management. Um, I think we're all recommending and to those who need to to have a conversation that is apparently and understandably very deeply personal to everybody here
who just wants to hopefully also uplift the entire community in one way or another and not be afraid of that conversation. Although I'm afraid of that word, but I'm hearing that we could. So, what do you what exactly? You have to give me the language. What do you want to what what do you want to
change in the language, please? Sir, I I You're making the motion. So, you tell me what words. She started. Yes, she said she's going to make a motion. Oh, did you not say that? Sorry.
I'm Yes. I I mean, I'm I am making a motion to change the word mandate to I to what to to blank. If there is a word that makes people more specifically calling out the word mandate, which I have no problem with a
word that you Okay, so we we're still in a conversation then. So you have you have to to make a motion, you have to give me the words. You have to tell me what you want to change. Okay, we're this we're we're not in public session and if the way we're going it's going to be a very quick one.
So okay, amend for mandate to pig death. Okay. So you so just to just to summarize to reiterate, Jessica is making a motion to amend the resolution to change the word I'm sorry looking for this to man
the in the last paragraph the therefore to man from mandate to suggest you said yes. Okay. Is there a second? So, just to reiterate, last paragraph discuss. We
have to get a second. Oh, yeah. Second to uh to change the word in the last there therefore in the therefore from mandate to suggest uh suggest sharing. Yep. A62 suggest sharing blah blah blah. Okay. So you
take out the word mandate and equitable and sh with suggest. Is that to uh to suggest sharing? Okay. Okay. Is there a second? Okay. Second is uh Sarah. Is there discussion on the amen
on the motion? Yeah, just point of we're keeping including establishing a minimum percentage to be pulled once the school's PATA revenue will pass a minimum threshold. What is the number?
It's still I'm sorry. If there if that's if that's the sticking point then No, it's not. That's not okay. So then we'll let it happen. It doesn't matter to me how this
is the talked about substantial disparities in fundraising. Yes, there are some PTAs that are very good at fundraising that are really great at engagement. There are others that are not good at engagement for lots of reasons. So because of that, I would oppose it. Okay. Are you withdrawing your motion,
Jessica? It's I don't I mean Okay. Okay. Okay. Are there any other comments on the on the motion to amend? Okay. So, we have a motion to amend. It would be taking out the word mandate
unequitable and change it with suggest. No more discussion. We have it seconded. Let's take it to a vote. Okay. Right. This is just to this is just to amend. This is just amending it. Okay. I will read out the names for you.
Thank you. Okay. Prepoparay. Yes. Prepoparay. Yes. Allison Bowen. Allison Bowen. No. Daniela Egarov. Yes. Daniellea Edgarov. Yes. Gavin Healey.
Yes. Gavin Healey. Yes. Uh Maud Maron. Maud Maron. No. Sonel Patel. Sonel Patel. Yes. Jessica Savage. Oh, sorry. I didn't hear you. Jessica Savage. Yes. If you can speak up because I can't hear everybody. Sorry. Sarah
Shaker Erinberg. Sarah Shaktorberg. Yes. Len uh Len Silverman. No. Len Silverman. No. Craig Slleskin is a no. So it loses it. The motion does not pass. Six to four. Right. Yeah. That's six. Yes. Six. Six to four. And as a reminder, you need
seven. It's not a majority. You need seven to pass. Okay. So, we will now go to discussion of the last of the last resolution 274 resolution to condemn the office of family and community engagement faces management of the community educ education council
elections and to demand an immediate review and reform of election process. Does anyone wish to speak on this? Sarah, I think you want to speak. She has she has fine. I'm good. Thanks. And again, you know, politics. Uh I I'd like this resolution.
Uh [Music] sorry. There we go. Um I would like uh Yeah, I'd like to make a motion to make some amendments. Yeah. And then I would this in the fourth whereas on the first
page I would like to review um where it says as well as some as well as in some elections an unreasonable amount of candidate supply making overly burden on voters to vote in a for manner. I think you made a very good point the speaker that actually we do
want more engagement but we want people to be engaged in a way that is supported. So changing that to be um and say I say little to no understanding of those sponsor council members um face provided little to no
support or direct development of candidates newer to the CEC election process. So yes, there are a lot of like sort of oh come to this or come to that but like the really direct reach out if they can reach out to voters 500 robocalls they can have these really great one you know supports for um
people to get involved. I would also request um a change on the last first last whereas in the first page removing the part where it says allowing various violations of rules by candidates without any representation face and amending that to face to not provide
proper oversight to the candidate forums um as the face representative duty was either passive or left prematurely and a removal of footnotes three I don't think it really adds a lot because it's perception versus um fact all the facts just seemed really on the money. Um, and
again, uh, this is a strange thing to say, but thank you, Daniellea, for the presentation at the CCH meeting where you mentioned something about the cost per vote. That was stunning. So, thank you very much for that information that um, so those are the amendments.
No, I think it was I don't know that was that was your dear me. Whatever. There's a lot of good info in that. So, thank you to CCHS for that. Sure. I'm confused about the fifth whereas what what I thought would cross out the whole thing. No, I think that the disproportional amount of effort and energy was directed
by face toward increasing the number. I I don't know. Yeah, I guess distortionate a large amount of effort of energy. Maybe it's not disportionate. I think it's a large it wasn't used well. So was disportionate. It just wasn't used well. Large amount of that
energy was directed by face toward increasing the number of candidates needed man who had little to no understanding the responsibilities of council members. FACE provided little to no support or direct development of candidates knowing the CC election process. I think that that is a fair statement. If you comfortable with it,
I'd like to So what is that? What is that? A disproportionate what? Um a large significant significant here. Here you can see my terrible notes. significant is fine. Yeah. Where does it stop?
Is this the only one? No. There's a couple more. Okay. And then the stuff on three removing the last one allow where we remove allowing various violations or rules by candidates without interruption from the face representative and change
it to face to not provide proper oversight in the candidate forums. um as the face representative on duty who uh was either passed as a left premature with removal of the third foot. All right. I'm comfortable with those changes. That's possible.
Okay. Can I just Can you give me a copy of those changes? Yeah. Yeah. Just because I didn't No, no, no. That's fine. I can read your handwriting. It's just Okay. So So you're making a motion to amend. Okay. We'll we'll we'll go through the discussion in a second, but
just to reiterate, just to summarize, there was a there was a motion to amend, which I am going to second. I'm supportive of this. There is a 1 2 3 4 fifth the fifth whereas we're changing the last the ending to reflect that face provided little to no support or direct
development of candidates newer to the CEC election process. On the one, two, three, four, five, six, seventh whereas, which is the last whereas in the first page, we're taking out uh allowing various violations of the rules by candidates without interruption from the
face. We're just going to say as the face rep the face did not provide proper oversight in the ca in the candidate forums as the face representative on duty was e was either passive or left prematurely. And we're taking out the
third footnote. I think that's it. Okay. I am going to second that. Is there any discussion of this amendment of this propos? Sorry. Motion to amend. Can we take it to a
vote? Okay. Sorry. Prepare. Second motion. I did. Prepare. Yes. Allison Bowen. Yes. Allison Bowen. Yes. Daniela Egarov. Danielle Edgarov. No. Gavin Healey. Gavin Healey. Yes. Charles Love is out. Mud Marin. Mud Maron. No.
Sonel Patel. Son Patel. Yes. Jessica Savage. Jessica Savage. Yes. Sarah Shack. Erinberg. Sarah Shack. Erinberg. Yes. Leonard Silverman. Yes. Leonard Silverman. Yes. Greg Slutskin. Yes. So that passes one, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Eight to two.
Pass. Passes. Okay. Are there any Sorry. Are there any We're going to go We'll try to very quickly. Are there any discussion? Is there any further discussion on this resolution? Hopefully, we can move forward. Okay. Okay. So, we are finished with discussing resolutions. Um, we now have
a second public speaker session. We have 17 We have 17 people. We It is 9 minutes. We have 9:30. It's 9:30 already. We have to vote on We have the minutes. We have the business meeting, which we do have a couple of things we need to talk about. Uh, and we have the
votes. Yeah, I hope. Yeah, I agree. I second. Well, I'll be okay. So, there's a second. I I just discussion. I would I would not suspend it completely. I would just limit it. You want to?
Yeah. I I don't think you can second public speaking session because it's in it's in the agenda. So, so my my suggestion is we do 15 seconds. 30 sec 30 seconds. You're not going to have You're not going to do that. We have to be We have 94. Sorry.
15 minutes. What do you folks want? What do you folks suggest? Because we have to be out and and I can't start packing up at 10. I just can't, you know. That's fine. I That's 7 That's That's 9:48.
That gives us to 9:48 if everybody stays to the minute. And you know that's not gonna happen Gavin. So that's we don't have time for a full minute. I just Sorry. We just 30 seconds. No. We can't go more than 30. That's even. That's probably too late.
Can't vote. Either we vote public speaking. Either we vote. Okay. Vote. Let's vote. Okay. So I I don't I you know I people want to speak people want I think people want to
speak and we told them I said before people will have the opportunity to speak can we do 30 seconds can we do 30 seconds but you have to stick to 30 seconds just come on the podcast we have to we have to be out we can't be out 30 seconds 30 seconds is that 30 seconds
okay I'm not asking you agree to 30 seconds we just do 30. Do you guys agree? Yeah, we're asking you. I'm asking your opinion, but I'd like to Okay, we'll do 30 sec. We'll do 30 seconds. Let's go. Okay, here we go. All
right, let's go. Let's go quick. All right, Annabelle, you got Come on. Let's go. Tell us what you want. Bill, wait. Wait, hold on. We agreed to do students first though. Oh, students first. I'm sorry. So, um, we have Mark has
a We have Mark has a Na. All right. Uh, I don't see any other students that are listed here. Is Mark here? Only that's the only student that's listening. All right. So, Annabelle, who's here?
Oh, Mark's here. All right. Let's go, Mark. All right. Let's go. You know, honestly, we'll have to come back to you if you if you're not ready. So, Annabelle, why don't you go? Well, let Annabelle go first and then So, yeah, I'll keep this relatively
short. First, I want to say yes, I'm not a student. I am not generally involved with CTD2 schools, but there's a reason why I'm here. The reason why I'm here is because before I served at these meetings, you want to know who was
bullied out of these meetings? The transmit to your schools. But let me um I want to follow up on my friends invocation of the Holocaust. There's no point of it because we talk about trans people in
the Holocaust heritage for 1933. Everybody culture several young organizations. This is a Nazi
All right, let's get um Mark, you're up. Here we go. You are part of a neon organization known as Liberty. There are no neoc you spent 42 minutes gathering about unrelated during this
session every time for your nonsense. You do not represent anyone in this city. No one knows why and I'm
tell y'all cannot y'all cannot let silence people like this that's not next speaker Joe Vitali is being followed by car let's go do
it and then we're going to carry on the first session quickly because it's and I've proposed biological males competing with females in school sports. Superintendent McGuire
does not care about math. He also with people using the pronoun they toote just a single person. So just basic math and it means 1 + 1 = 2 1 + 0
= 1. So superintendent wire if you do not comply he's hiding somewhere back there. If you do not comply with the executive order Terry, please. And then we're gonna have Achilles and then it looks like Amaya
Carrie. I think it's important to say the camera. I find it really rich because he's not listening to about math and then bring up their academic affairs meetings, one of two of which I went to and only heard from a trans
person or the word math did not come up. If I go to I really just want to voice my good out of time. Thank you. followed by Achilles left.
Achilles I think. Okay. So, um Amaya Perez followed by Sawyer R. I first New Yorker and New York is only made sitting home with one girl. I back from DC this weekend and I can say New
York is the only J and Sh is diversity and freedom and survival. You know they said we can make it here anywhere. But what is it here anywhere? Thank you very much. is to be followed
by no one but okay. Um then so we're gonna have uh Voron Batista followed by Abby Buckmeer. Okay, I think it's clear we don't have enough time. Um thanks for that guys. I spent four hours waiting for two minutes but I guess that's not happening. Thank
you, Alison Bowman, for leaving very conveniently during the time of the voting. And Montin, I would really like to tell you um I would like to save my management 50 years from now when I believe that trans people will gain the liberation that we deserve and we will be telling our kids and our children's
children, hey, what was it like to fight that theory? There will be movies made about this time. And I have a feeling you're not going to be a hero. We just we have um Abby Buckmeer and then Heather. It looks like Heather Mana.
And then we're gonna have it looks like Michael Lobo. Cool. I wrote a whole thing about Hi, I'm Abby. I'm a lesbian and I like trans people. my former global student female athlete
and you know if child athlete doesn't support a child and children in district two and children conversation shouldn't be allowed to access the resources of their school including sports
um people and then you're a part of so you try to stand Heather on any topic rolling your eyes and students as a representative is fix your case. as well as
other Michael and Steve. Yeah, you can do this job professionally and seriously as adults. You should step aside so that people who care about our children can. I'll just ask you three questions.
[Music] which you're serving on. If you don't know what the purpose of public education is, you don't know what the purpose of the CEC is, and you don't know what make a good CC representative, you
[Applause] shouldn't c Um, pleasure to be here. I'm Steve Stow, CC20 president. Now, there are at least four districts in the city that offer geometry in middle school and 24% of middle schools in the country offer geometry in middle school. The world is
changing. Technology leads that change. Technology is based on math. AI is the fundamental technology creating generational change in how we work and process information. If we accelerate artificial intelligence, it is crucial that we accelerate human intelligence alongside. If we do not leave vast laws
of population and society behind, the world will move on regardless of what each year does. Keep up the good fight until Superman McGuire offers truly accelerated math education which is generally [Applause] thanks genetic makeup internal and
external reproductive anatomy are not useful indicators of athletic performance. So we're really talking about uh girls sports which support a lot of people are doing equivalent like what most many autistic people are also
trans you have to care about trans um we talk about that we don't use that every year but like your comfort was not at someone else's safety and so is equal to deny that Thank you.
Man, you got to work on your empathy because that's what this all comes down to. Rich schools will still get to keep the money that they raise. They're just going to also pick a little bit of work to school that doesn't get to go on a school trip and doesn't have
adequate. He's just recognizing that that game like down the road. Secondly, Mikeer and that he is so good at it. He is absolutely someone on that you would be desperate to move into a segregated
classroom or not segregated. But I don't let that happen because he is being challenged. He is being challenged with the gift of empathy. Hi everybody. Um so I've been to every meeting for 16 months now and there's
something I noticed about sex besides the fact that there are8s and I stand in a beautiful auditorium and someone's talking about my night. We are debating how we'll suspend it. Um, every kid, every school
auditori, every CC teacher meeting should have a work. Um, and yet somehow in the richest city, in the richest district, in the richest city, in the richest country in the history of the world, we can somehow find the ability
to pay for five hops. Love y'all. that like you can imagine five one person who face and nobody makes a lot of sense. I love hearing this house. I love
to see how you all going to prepare to act very [Applause] [Music] public schools recently published a survey to understand why families either left the public school system or have
decided to not enter. The number one reason cited by 41% of their survey said they want a more rigorous education than what their kids can get here. So for the families who can't leave our public schools, we need to deliver for them. Students in our schools are assessed
regularly in class and we know we have students who are one to two to even three grades ahead. These students are ready and deserve to be challenged and not to be bored in class. I urge C2 to continue to advocate for accelerated to see you here. It was
shocking to hear you speak tonight after the last several months. Um I have two quick comments to make. Um your comment about how the trans community is rude to lesbians was hysterical. There are so many of us gay people here who are
supporting our trans siblings. Um secondary secondary uh the comment that trans activists make these meetings unsafe for young women meaning sis students in CC. Um, I'll say the only thing that made students on the state
were these camera crews faces repeatedly asked to stop filming students. The camera [Music] resolution 272 resolution to affirm
to support NYPS guidelines [Music] support. Yes. Mud narrow. No. Mud is no tell. Don't tell is yes. Jessica Savage. Jessica Savage is yes.
Sarah Sar is yes. Leonard Leonard. We're going to go to resolution 273. resolution to amend chancing regulation A660 to mandate citywide PA/PTA revenue share. I will make a motion to approve. Do I have a
second? Second is take it to a vote. Prepar is a no bone is a no is a no is a yes noun is a
no. Someone tells a yes. Jessica Savage. Jessica Savage I think is a yes. I didn't hear you. Yes. Uh Sarah Shakar. Sarah Shack is a yes. Uh Silverman is a no. Is a no. Motion does
not pass. Vice 4 to6. Resolution 274, resolution to condemn the office of family and community engagement basis management of the community education council elections and to demand immediate review form of the election process. As amended as
amended I know a few things. Um I will make a motion to approve. Do I have a second? Second is Jessica. Okay. Are you vocalized? Jessica Savage Jessica Savage is a yes.
Sarah Sarah is a yes. Yes. Is a yes. Motion passes. 3 4 5 6 7 8. Okay, we're going to go to uh approval of the
minutes. Can I can I them? We'll take a vote and then Okay. Uh I make a motion to approve the minutes of the January 15th, February 26, March 19th, and April 23rd minutes. Do I have a second? Second
is Melro. Is there a discussion? Okay, no discussion. We'll take it to a vote. Yes. Yes. Yes. No.
Yes. No. Jessica Jessica Savage Sarah Sarah. No. Yes. Yes. Motion does ask 63 to
one new business. Yes. Very quickly I want to congratulate you both. I know they work really hard. Thank you. Okay. Hopefully business. Okay. Can
I can we adjourn that? Okay. Thank you. We'll go very quick. Working business take a roll call. Uh is [Music] here
Charles is here. Jessica Savage. Jessica Savage is here is here is here is here. We have a form um on the treasury report. We haven't I really do want to get everybody to to
submit your expenses. Uh I've approved a bunch of them the past couple of weeks, but let's not wait till the last minute because I you never know. So please get them in in the next couple weeks next week or so. If you need any help, please contact Victor. I've been trying to be
quick about turning around. Okay. Any school updates? Any business? Okay. Thank you everybody. Good night everybody at home.
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