Al righty I will call the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m. uh first order business just review and approve minutes of January 14th 2025 they looked very good to me could I have a motion to approve
those I'll make a motion to approve the minutes and a second I second all in favor I yes I all righty uh on to financial
statements Shelly sent us the report I did um the only thing that I want to comment on the report that I don't think is included in there yet but we'll see the effect of it next month is that we did have to have the classroom locks replaced on one of our classrooms and
that was sort of an emergency the door was not unlocking um so we're currently looking at what it'll take to upgrade the other classrooms because we anticipate that we could continue to see some problems so Kristen Bruce and I are in conversation about that I think the one repair that
we did have to have was like 12 or $1,500 so it was pretty costly for the one classroom so it it's not going to have a budget impact I just wanted to let you know that it was something sort of unforeseen and a little bit costly that came up um otherwise no other major
changes you know still keeping a close eye on all of the accounts to make sure that we can make up for what we're anticipating for losses Kristen and I are close communication about how things are going um and for the record 11 warrants were signed totaling
$2,293 just keep spending that money alrighty uh principal's report any qu first of all any questions for Shelly NOP all righty uh principal's report
Kristen sent us the report ahead of time as always looks like a lot of exciting stuff going on yes and we just last month I reported on that dibles this month the nwaa which is given through third from third to
sixth grade and it's a great indicator um in terms of students where they're at and their trajectory currently in Reading uh 63% of the students were at Benchmark little lower than we've seen in the past but we are in year two
program math 75% of the students at Benchmark which we were thrilled to see so our plan of action we had all of our data meetings in each grade level to help determine uh which students needed further intervention we rearranged schedules for our interventionists and a
few others to meet the needs of those students um and I shouldn't have put this this is my opinion students I just the program doesn't allow for students to read read read read and and so we're looking at ways that we can get that in
because the program is very um group and partner reading and teacher reading so want to try to work to get that in another exciting news sixth grade through their spaghetti dinner and um I'm drawing a blank um spaghetti dinner
and there was one other thing that they did sorry Jamie and Emily but they were able to cover 50 52% of the cost of the trip for every single student in the class so that's a huge financial burden off the families really pleased with that and I'll do school choice when it
comes up in the agenda if anyone has any questions alrighty uh any questions for Kristen no look for the school choice all
right uh all right on to public comment uh we did have some public comment this evening um I actually have a statement um that I'd like to read um it's been released at by the Nea the MTA and the
frontier Union 38 um Educators Association right um National Education Association president Becky Pringle released the following statement on reported executive actions that hurt students
public schools and communities quote most Americans believe that every student deserves opportunity resources and support to reach their full potential no matter where they live the color of their skin or how much their
family earns parents and Educators agree our students need more learning opportunities not less they need smaller class sizes to get more individualized attention they need nutritious School meals so they can pay attention to class rather than their stomachs and they need
access to mental health supports they need to be respected for who they are no matter their race Place background sexual orientation or gender identity and our students need to learn the good bad sorry the good inad of our history
to be prepared to succeed in our diverse and independ interdependent world and from MCA president Max page and vice president Deb McCarthy uh we have this statement but we condemn in the strongest possible
terms the directive that would allow allow ice agents to raid and arrest students in our Public Schools it is repulsive to our shared common values and this cruel policy shatters the trust that families place in our Educators and
our Public Schools as safe havens and inflicts Lasting trauma on innocent children as Educators we stand in solidarity with IM with immigrant Advocates Community allies I and all who fight for justice and Humanity we will
fight against this policy with every tool at our disposal and remain committed to ensuring our public schools are spaces of learning belonging and safety for all students Darius Modesto superintendent from Frontier Union 38 schools released
two statements regarding IM immigration concerns and revisions to Title 9 or challenges to lgbtq plus rights Union 38 Educators Association fully supports all of these statements that
have been made and appreciates that our superintendent sent these out to ensure our students are supported and protected we know that not all superintendents have come out with statements supporting these marginalized communities we feel fortunate to be in a district and
community that values all of its members thank you very much for that appreciate it can I just ask you a c a question um so I'm because as far as I know um everything that you said is reflected in our policies or at least nothing in our
policies contradicts anything that you said so policy-wise what would you have us if you were us what would you do now what would you do differently that we haven't done already what would I do differently yes
um to be honest I I can't think of anything in in particular I I feel I honestly I feel very appreciative of the statements that Darius has made um and really the sort of I think the feeling
among the people I've spoken to is that the Administration has um really had wonderful messaging around this and at this point I feel like that's what we can do okay personally good excellent thank you very much thank
you uh I don't think we have any other public comment um unfinished VD business FY 26 budget I'm trying to share the screen I don't know what is happening
[Music] you had it it was like showing up in duplicate on my end and I couldn't see the document try again if it fails I will jump in and save the
day all right is it there now yep okay perfect all right so uh we did have a brief conversation about the budget at the in the January meeting so we're going to review that information and then talk about next steps and where the budget stands today under draft 2 um so
as a quick reminder 22,000 roughly is a 1% general fund budget increase uh we're looking at a level service based budget there's no new requests for FY 26 um so for level service we've included uh increases in salaries
districtwide so that includes uh placeholders for IAS and teachers uh because we're in no negotiations and do not know what the cola increase will be as well as uh increases for School based staff in central office uh we did have an adjustment for the Esser Grant we
started off um with a $30,000 deficit because we used Sr money to help offset fy2 we also talked last month about a a sick buyback expense of $21,000 and then uh we had made adjustments based on actuals from prior
years of about 27,000 so those changes before we even applied the salary increase uh total 3.53% of the 7.05 that we talked about which was level services so that's a pretty significant number between um the
27,000 adjustment for expense accounts the Esser amount and then the sick buyback so if we didn't have that expense you know we'd be in a much better position um so that's really some of the challenge that we're facing this year so let's look at draft two uh and
what we've done in tra draft two to make changes to bring that 7.05% down uh so you can see the SR adjustment in there the retirement expense we have moved uh to school choice I recommend that we pay for uh that expense in the
new year for from the school choice revolving fund we have adequate funds in that account right now and we do not anticipate kamway to have a revenue loss we expect that Kristen will be able to replace any outgoing students particularly sixth graders uh with new
enrollments so we should be in a positive position and able to handle that on school choice next year um salary increases are not actually reduced we didn't cut any staffing what we've done is apply the rural Aid money there um so the rural Aid
allocation uh was let me just remember $30,000 uh that we're we're applying to the budget and then you can see the other adjustments so the transportation Cola that's in our contract uh that is something that we cannot avoid uh software and Hardware adjustments of
$5,000 based on existing expenses summer stiens based on actuals and then heat and electricity was a $10,000 adjustment based on our actuals for several years and same with the central office Insurance shared cost um so we're looking at after removing the sick
buyback and applying the rural Aid um the budget being at 5.25% for level services so that was a 1.80% reduction any questions about that before I keep keep going no it's sounding better though it
is sounding better yeah and we'll continue to talk about our options the other thing I want to point out because um I know Jared's probably doing the math I'm telling you that we were we reduced by 51,000 but 155 to 115 is only 40,000 the reason for that is that I did
make a salary adjustment um based on our first proposal in the negotiation so that actually brought up some of the teacher and IIA wages a little bit so it's eating up some of that 50,000 that we had a change for so just so that you all know that my math is correct
there um all right so I just put in a caveat here for you that using rural Aid is a little bit of a risk uh the funds are not guaranteed they're subject to appropriation while the state has made a commitment to try to increase rural Aid uh we won't know what that amount is
until well after our budget is already approved um so we are you know taking a chance that if it doesn't get funded at least to the same level we could be starting off with another deficit next year and also the formula is based on um
student enrollment and density so that could fluctuate we have seen a drop Conway didn't have an impact but weightly did lose $55,000 based on the formula calculation so it's just something for us to be aware of as we go through the budget process um next steps so because we're
talking level service the options to reduce are really limited uh we could commit we could consider um cutting out that 27,000 in expenses that I outlined above I don't recommend it I think if
it's a year that the town can afford a little bit more of a budget increase for the school you know and I would looked to Elaine or Phil if you have any information there it's a good time to make those adjustments because we're not asking for anything new although 27,000
is about you know close to 1 and a half% so that would get us down you know around four instead of 5.25 which may be more palatable to the town I could also go through um each of the line items in the budget and shave off little bits of
money you know for example say we have an expense account that we hold at $1,000 annually and for three years we've only spent 500 I could cut that 500 back if I did that to multiple lines we could probably come up with $10,000
you know maybe a half of a percentage point I don't like to do that this year is a perfect example because we have the overage and the heating oil so we're going to need those little excess funds and cushion from other budget accounts to help make up for that overage so it
really is sort of the school's way to have some type of um excess cash and if we don't use it for things that are unforeseen it gives Kristen an opportunity at the end of year to spend some money on things that
we don't normally budget for so it's not my recommendation but I also recognize that we're talking about you know the town contribution for school uh for Conway alone for the grammar school being over $100,000 as I've presented so
if it's something we have to do then then we can certainly do that um outside of cutting salaries and wages there is no other wiggle room in this budget we're not asking for anything new we're looking at level services so it really could be a challenge um just some upcoming meetings
here and then I'll see if you all have questions and we can continue to talk but just wanted to make sure that everyone knows our public hearing is March 13th and then we're scheduled to vote on the budget on March 27th and I believe town meeting the first Saturday is June
7th uh and then I did give you the historical increase just so you can see uh where we been over the last several years um and I gave you the average which let me scroll down a little bit further over the last six budget Cycles the average increase has been
2.71% and I think it's important to point out with last year at the 4.87 that that included a 1% increase for the District transportation um if you remember our contract was up for Renewal and uh rates came in significantly higher it impacted
everyone across the board if we did not have that increase 3.87 could still be slightly high but you know I think it's um within the norm for most of our smaller schools what questions do you have darus did I miss anything no the only thing is
I I imagine the town has less money this year and the reason why I'll say that we see we know Frontiers um contribution rate and that's it's way down so which means you probably don't have a lot of money um it's usually that's our indicator that's what we use for an indicator but Frontier has not approved
a budget or brought one forward but your assessment percentage is going to be pretty low in the negatives even no matter no matter what they do to the budget unless they want to increase it by several million um you're going to be okay coming from Frontier so um I can give you that
there's they haven't voted the budget and they haven't taken action on the budget so I can't give anything more than that just the fact that um if Frontier we knew was going to be high I'd tell you that too because I've had that conversation with towns as well so you're going to be very low on Frontier so the majority of your school budgets will be your ele growth will be in your Elementary
School yeah so what Darius is referring to is the Chapter 70 minimum state required contribution that they're saying Conway has to pay Conway has like hundreds of thousands of dollars of um reduction over the prior year which is
why our assumption is that the town has less money that's the only time that that that or unless you know somebody really wealthy moved out of your Community or housing values drop so it could be any combination of those things um but it will result in in savings on
Frontiers budget that is what that is the case there have been two wealthy tax holder taxpayer families that moved out of the Town um but um I I would also say though I mean maybe Elaine has um additional
information about the town's Financial Health but I I I would say that those various options that you listed uh Shelly um if you can keep juggling them for another month um I I think we a lot
of that is uh outcome determinative with how we do with the teachers and IAS I think we'll learn a lot more once that is resolved and note that the the the time that we have set for voting the budget can be moved by you um
with the town running much later um you just have to talk with the select board um we may have a phone call into them um on this phone call bad way of saying it somebody in the room might know that but they need to usually know about six weeks prior to town meeting you know what our final number is but um if we
need to kind of wait and see where things land in those certain things you know we can push that off um you'll have to put another meeting on the books because or you can do the early may have to look at the calendar but they could vote in oh April's joint this joint but either either you can do one of these
too um but the other side is that you it's a self-inflicted unlike Frontier who has to have has a meeting date they have to meet by you guys are as a town you are um your dates are self-inflicted that's a way to say it
all right I I mean I agree with Phil I also am curious what the finance committee will think of the options because they you know they're hard at it at this point too do when does your health insurance is that on a three-year cycle going up to bid do you go you put
it out to bid or is it a standard thing no so Conway is part of the Hampshire County Group Insurance trust and uh rates were just renewed at the last trust meeting and the town is going to
see an 18% increase on HMO and 20% on PO as will Frontier Deerfield weightly like all Sunderland doesn't participate with the trust that's the only one of our towns that doesn't so there will be some sign ific growth in their budget for
health insurance costs yeah I did talk about that with um with with our representative Jan and the I it's crazy yeah it's Savage um that I I think I think you know I I know our town
administrator's point of VI right now is try to get the try to get the teacher contract settled as soon as you can the so that the rest of the dominoes can fall um I I uh but you know Elaine that might be a good idea to put it off for a few
weeks till so so that can happen we could still put it off after we meet with the finance committee on the 13th right um yeah we could put a vote off till after we meet with the fin but
generally we're supposed to have a number but on the 13th and then vote on the 27th I don't know there are probably some legal requirements about that I don't I don't know if we can have a public meeting and then not have another public meeting
before as long as it goes down yeah I think Darius is probably right so I say we go ahead with the current status of it and then see what they have to say yeah okay so public hearing we want to
talk about we want to present the 5.25% yes I mean that's what I think I don't know what other people think I mean you know what thanks yeah yeah I think so as well I think shell your point earlier about testing
our the waters with the fact it's a level set budget just as equating to 5% you know it's makes it more palatable um or at least more presentable um right the end of arpa money too you know I mean that's arpa's been a savior last
few years so that's come to an end okay did the town use ARP own a way to have save free cash or they is that going to be or they down in both areas I missed that what was that did
arpa use did the town use arpa funds to offset to increase their free cash you know what I'm saying like used Opera funds and C cash no we we used it for um uh almost entirely we Ed the arpa money for the sick pay buyback and for the um
but almost all of it went for the uh public safety building okay Y which is moving along yeah all right on the positive side I don't anticipate that Conway will have
um a tough budget near year next year you know as long as rural Aid comes through we won't have the $30,000 deficit to deal with so we'll we'll just have the normal increases which could be putting us you know between three and
four versus being four to five um so that's a positive thing and we've been really good for a number of years I mean so I mean I mean again we can still change it but I think we take the next step with it as it
is I mean so we don't need to do anything today just decide to go forward with that okay all right that's what we'll
do sounds like plan all right on to new business thanks Shelly thank you Shelly uh school choice Kristen hi um trying to flip between the minute screen and this okay so uh we'll
definitely be able to replace those sixth graders that are moving out in terms of school choice the only two grades at this time that will not be accepting school well my recommendation to not accept school choice would be next year's grade one which will have 25 students we currently only have 25 in
the kindergarten class yeah that's big yeah yeah it really is and then um sixth grade for next year currently in fifth grade we have 25 students who will be moving to sixth grade so we have room in all of the other grades currently I have
12 school choice appli for kindergarten so um that's going to be a place we won't be able to accept all 12 but that will be a place where we'll be a definitely pick up students for um the outgoing sixth graders we also have a scattering of other school choice applications it's really nice to get the
kids in kindergarten because then they have the full Conway grammar school experience but um these are just my recommendations if anyone has any questions or comments no the only thing about the sixth grade is that you know when when they go from sixth to 7th we lose so
many of them and just to other schools and um because our students are so heavily recruited by all the other schools yeah um and uh you know it's that's that's that that's the one that if it's possible to go over that
magic number by even just one or two that would be beneficial because they'll be part of Frontier that you know they can be part of Frontier for the duration that's in the town's best interest yeah it's Greatful we do have um we every year we do get a couple of uh school
choice sixth graders who want to come in in sixth grade because they're going to be going to um Frontier and we all we definitely try to um all right try to let that happen good yeah good thanks yeah that makes sense sh um Kristen not
to take any more for those two now was was this big class in kindergarten a surprise like were these a lot of people that showed up out of the woodwork or a combination of both there were you know the census is never
completely correct um and so we had quite a few I think we had 11 coming from prek and then um three of those were school choice we decided to take only those three because they were in our prek and they had siblings in the school
so we have I so that leaves us with 22 Conway kindergarteners wow yeah yeah which is great you know but yeah well we have lots of school choice like I said 12 I think at this point it's a high and more coming in so um
word us out which is great yeah definitely I actually just talked to somebody today whose grandchildren both went to Conway school choice and they were just reminiscing about how awesome it was so oh great good to know uh so do
we need to take a vote on your recommendation so you need to officially vote that you will accept school choice you'll be at school choice school next year and then you can say be of school high school and run off the principal's recommendations but I need officially in the notes that you are a school choice
school because I got to submit it to desie okay so moved second second all in favor I I hi all right so moved we are school choice
school all right and our next order of business is approval of the new contract for a Director of Business Administration which a blessing is it's not a new Director of Business Administration so the chairs met with um in negotiated a contract with Shelly and
um in doing so they extended her contract because her contract was going to expire um and so they offered her a three-year contract um and in a uh what do you call it two two-year extension well we you up one this year
anyway three-year contract starting in July um doing a market adjustment to um $150,000 and then going off the teacher Cola for the following tiers after that so and a promise to work on how many nights you all are out in the world
correct just right looking at the the chairs agreed that we would be looking at number of nights and how to um do meetings in other in other ways in the sense of not other ways but either during the day getting different committees to rotate those kind of things um correct there's a lot of night
meeting I don't want I don't want that to fall off the radar because that's the huge thing and your kids are only young once so anyway uh so can I have a motion to approve this negotiated contract for our
director of Business Administration I will happily make a motion to approve the contract I'll second all in favor I congratulations shell thank you Shelly for staying with us really
appreciate it thank you very very significant for our district okay on to immigration enforcement in schools um well if you saw the recorder they kind of did a summary of mostly what I'm talking about but um we're on Front Page
today with that so basically you know I did send out a note to families um there's a lot of concern about immigration enforcement in schools um and the big you know big fear that you know we send our child off to school and they don't come home because the law enforcement picked them up there um you
know schools used to be just give a little bit background on that so people have an understanding and anybody watching has understanding um you know schools considered Sanctuary sites um as well as houses of worship and some other kind of odd places um and where you know
immigration enforcement would not be um done as you may or may not know that um in 1982 there was a ruling that um you know schools were um open to um both you
know I'm trying to quote my thing here and P piler versus doe the Supreme Court held that public Elber and secondary schools may not deny any child residing um in jurisdiction and access and they have access to public education whether the child is present in the country
legally or not and so I think that's kind of where I want people to understand especially as you being the lawmakers of the district um that you know students have the right to be here and we should be educating all students whether what no matter what their legal statuses um because not only does it
benefit our country um if you know they if they stay here for the their ration if they end up going somewhere else it forever changes their lives and puts them in a positive place and that's what we should be doing and to set them up by saying come to our schools and then we may take um um immigration action on you
while you're there I think is um is Despicable so um you know outside of the whole immigration conversation I'm not talking about that I'm talking about it the enforcement of it taking place um in schools so um that being said um we did
I we do have uh I did send you sample policies and statements that you could make as school commit members that's up for you to discuss I did already put a procedure in place and trained all the administrators and their front office
staff it quite frankly it's very straightforward um any uh if there's any immigration please um do contact the school for information or to try to um Locate somebody they need to contact the superintendent's office and myself and I do have Shelly and Karen fendina trained
as well on what to do in that matter where we would use our legal team um to review any documentation and the conf the concern was it's like what do you mean by documentation there there are two different types of warrants there's one called a Judicial warrant which is
signed by a judge and so if someone's going to do a search and seizure on your house they would need a Judicial warrant um enter your premise um the other thing there is there's a warrant that is produced by the office of IM immigration I don't know the official title of it but it's where their officers are
working off of information in order to um do their work in picking up um um either illegal immigrants who may have you know broken the law or been being processed and that kind of thing so they have their own internal warrants those are not legal to enter a school okay
they can be done in a public place but a school is not considered a public place it's a public school but not everybody can just walk through the front door we have a level of um level of not being private I guess privacy um of a public school and and so
forth so um you know there's you know warrants look both look very official and so that's why we want to have them reviewed by anybody legal and that kind of thing because um the chances of a Judicial warrant being served on a child
in a school is pretty low um in especially in an elementary school so in Massachusetts too Massachusetts as well um but it's still you know it is very concerning if you were a parent um and that was your status and um you you you you know you have to let go of your
child during the day and put them under our protection um that's a that's a heck of a thing to be and and um you know while we don't collect the information I couldn't tell you how many um students um with their statuses as in the United States right now from enrollment you
know we have an idea when we talk to people but we don't we don't track that information um we don't collect that information as well so but they do exist and um they are having conversations with the adults in the building the parents are concerned and it is important that we let them know that um
immigration business is not going to be taking place at our schools if it is it's going to make sure that they have all the official paperwork and we'll protect the children legally when they're under our care so that's the idea behind it um before you um the
froner is going to be talking about the um the policy and the resolution at their meeting next week and so I didn't want Frontier to get ahead of you um because they meet the second week of of February I will tell you that um both Sunderland and weighty would like to
discuss doing an official policy um similar to the one that um I did send out to you and what that will do it doesn't change any of the work we do now it just basically says if I was to suddenly leave and a new administrator was to take over that your policy is very similar to what I just it it's kind
of basically the summary is what I just said that that um all immigration work would have to go through the central office and um that there would be checks and balances to make sure that the proper legal Authority is being met um if they're going to access any records
um the only other thing I want to mention I forgot as I went through is that we are also furpa bound so we actually can't legally give information to any um to immigration enforcement if they came to school we couldn't even say that Jared Campbell attends school you
know um you know that kind of think we that is all it would be a FAL violation without a court order um to give that information up so all right that was my summary of all that um if you would want we can put that on the the policy on the ne I I
whether that you do a resolution um that's up to you I really think the policy does send a message you're saying you're passing your rule your law that we're going to follow those procedures moving forward and I think that makes the statement resolution is on top of that if you want but that's up to you so
I would recommend you do a policy um I think you're going to see the other schools are going to do it too policy definitely makes sense to me if if the whole Union wants to do a resolution together we could do that too so here here's the thing though so I
mean you know you know me like I I'm mean I you know I start with the proposition that when your Castle is under siege the castle of the values you hold deer are under siege only stick your head up above the parpet when
there's wisdom and value in doing that um and you know we live in a county where um our County sheriff is a self-described immigration Hawk our County Jail has uh
at any given time has the largest number of immigra ice detainees in the Northeast usually more than 200 and yes a lot of that funding is used to support inmate health care and yes the jail does
uh hire Dr Ruth Poe a lot of you know her she's an amazing addiction specialist so there is there is really good things done with some of that money from but um you know that I I I question the value
of restating existing policies so as to get in the newspaper or to stick our heads above the parapet when if these are in fact our existing policies um so to the extent that we
could Tinker with existing policies to clarify something I think the policy that was put before us includes a lot of additional things and the resolution um seems kind of virtu
signaling is um so I mean I you know I I think you know the important thing is that it be really clear in our policies that a Judicial warrant be shown and that any immigration enforcement go through central office um you know I I
think that that is really important but that's it that that's that's kind of the extent of everything else is sort of duplicative of existing policy and I mean I get that parents
are and other people people are concerned and have a lot of concerns and they should be concerned I'm concerned we're all concerned but whether or not when they call you point them towards existing policies or new policy that
says the same as existing policy that's not a reason to do public virtue signaling it's it's good enough to say this is where our existing policy is it's we don't need to do more than that and I question the
wisdom of doing it it is to the extent that you attract attention um and you know they're coming there were they you know I my my my neighbor my my neighbor's nephew was detained in a New Jersey high school two days ago um as a
student um demanding to check immigration papers um and and you know that is they're coming I mean the reason to do it Phil is to make your community members realize that you're going to do everything in your power to protect them
so haven't we already done that I mean it's it's making it it's making a statement that you are going to do that under the current um media blitz and uh aggression
being shown um toward this that they are safe in your schools which I think with all the work we've done on diversity and but isn't it also making a statement that is like you know painting a bull's
eye on is saying we're defiant you know dare we we dare you come get us I mean reality is Phil the number of illegal immigrants in our schools is probably so minimal that painting a Target on ourselves isn't going to bring us
anything I'm not so sure we don't that is the we don't know we don't know right I wouldn't think that we would be high profile let's go get that school up there what what I what I am told is that um B Bor the borce berry Growers which
are weightly Sunderland um that they have a lot of employees that are Venezuelan Haitian Nicaraguan that are in the country currently legally under the tsp program but they're about to have the rug pulled out from under them and they will soon be here illegally so
that those of we may not have many now but um as these people's you know and these are people that are all have all filed all the paperwork necessary to be here legally so it's very easy to come and get them um and their kids well get
Jared uh Tori what do you think um well it it seems like the policy is pretty is it's solid policy so are we I I kind of agree with Phil in that it it's good to come from a strong stance that we've been doing this
forever and not I I mean I don't I I kind of like that idea but um I unless we're making changes so if we're making changes maybe I don't know Jared
yeah no I'm also torn I I I do agree in part that you know the policy should stand on its own right that should be enough um but also you know the support and that you can show your community and illustrate is is a thing um I just I just I'm not close enough to understand
the impact of drawing a Target on ourselves versus not right like if if are we just posturing to make ourselves look good and then that causes us pain then I don't want to do that but if it's truly something that we can do and support our community then then that makes more sense to me well
but I mean doesn't the resolution strike you as POS as posturing I mean if I can just interject the I believe sundelin is just going to do the policy they kind of agreed that um then
not maybe not for that reason I think there was more about policy speaks the words um of the by because it's action of the committee right you're setting up your policies and so forth so um I would say the the conversation if your people are on the on the edge of that you know
do the policy there's no I don't I'm not asking for a resolution I think you know we've made our resolution as a community it was on the and we're not hiding I'm on the front page of uh of the the uh recorder talking about how we're doing things and then you just talked about a
whole Farm of people on a public meeting so I mean we're not hiding very well Phil um so I think that that's they think enough um in the sense of uh uh I think if you follow if you put forward the policy you you'll be able to review it next
month have the discussion there okay as far as the policy goes the the you know after the first few paragraphs where it no longer discusses the need for a warrant the the rest of it I I mean I
would discard I don't think it's relatively germine to thought it was unnecessarily wory and if if if the idea is to send it to employees and make sure they understand um you know and and this policy will be
read when there's you know 10 large white men with automatic weapons standing outside the door um you know you want it to be a succinct Pro policy that that it really tells them what to do and that they don't have to search
through sub paragraph 4B and know what know that the rest of it really doesn't matter you know so it really comes down to do they have a court order or not I mean that's what it comes down to yeah and and the rest of the they don't have a court order you stop them at the door
exactly that's that's that's the important part the rest of it's not not important well it's probably important it's probably important in a legal aspect I I don't think so I thought it was just duplicative and repetitious but
I don't think dar usually pulls it out you know from nowhere I don't know where' that come from I think you guys are going back and forth though I think you're talking about the resolution no I'm talking about the policy now the policy itself is straightforward and basically the my procedures are based
off of it so um you know you know what we can we can Wordsmith it the one that the policy that was put before you is a uh template coming from the state so um you know we can put our own mark on that
and so when we get that you know you'll get it ahead of time in advance that you know you can come in we can discuss at the meeting we can make alterations to it if you want um okay and maybe remove anything that's kind of not necessary all right so we don't need any votes
tonight no it's not on the it's not on the agenda there's no policy on right thank you thank you for clarifying that Darius thank you all right thank you everybody for the discussion alrighty on to reports uh committee and chair I do not have a
report uh the collaborative we don't have a rep and I haven't seen any updates from them and I think Darius pretty much gave us his report is there any need for executive session tonight we would only be for updates on
negotiations yeah which there's we don't really need that right now [Applause] right no just it would just be an update there's no uh yeah there's nothing yeah motions other than talks right okay then
I will take a motion to adjourn so mve second second thanks everybody enjoy the snow thank you thank you