Um, all right. Welcome everyone to Well, actually we're not No, this is a I'm calling to order the meeting. Um, uh, it's a poll hearing. It's not technically Is it technically a >> It's a select >> select. Okay. All right. So, it's our I'll go ahead and call the meeting to order. Select board um October No,
sorry. November 17th, 2026. Um, we're going to start with um a poll hearing with Eversource to discuss um a mobile battery unit and a pole that they want to install on Shelurn Falls. Um and Jesse Martin from Eversource is with us
remotely. Um so y >> you want to take it away? >> Uh sure. Um this is a u a project for byource to um help try to um increase reliability in the area. Um and uh so we actually have two
locations uh one on um Shelbert Falls Road and one on um on uh Wilder Hill where we want to install uh a a battery unit to help um provide electricity if there's an outage in the middle of you know you know in the middle of winter
specifically because of all the you know storm damage we tend to incur. Um, and uh it's going to involve uh adding another pole so that we can um create a loop to feed the battery and then back into the surface. And um I don't know
that's about it. It's pretty simple. It's pretty straightforward. Um does anybody have any questions on it? >> Yeah. So, can you describe I live right across the street from that uh spot on Shelurn Falls Road. >> Um >> Okay. So, can you describe what it'll
look like? It is. Is it a simple like, you know, like a pole like all the other ones? Because the other battery uh uh spots things that I've seen on uh your website look a lot different than a simple pole.
>> Well, yes. The pole is just the point of the interconnection. The the battery itself is just it looks like um like a small cargo trailer. >> A small cargo trailer. Yes. >> Like how I'm not sure what that looks like.
>> Like do you have dimensions approximate dimensions? >> Uh 80 ft wide and about 30 ft long. >> How tall? >> Yep. >> And all that will fit in that spot uh
that's.3 acres right there >> against the road. >> Yep. Yeah. >> Um, and does it make that area more vulnerable to a lightning strike? >> Uh, I don't see how it would. No,
>> like a transformer is can be vulnerable to a lightning strike. >> There's already a transformer in front of your house, but I mean it's not anymore. Everything is vulnerable to a lightning strike.
And do you expect that um you would need more land than that one spot or is it going to be very limited to that one spot? >> No, it's very limited to that one spot. It's it's just the size of a a trailer like um
I'm trying to think of something common that you could you could reference. Uh it's just a trailer. It's a it's 8 ft wide. It's 30 ft long. There's going to be some wires coming out of it that'll tie into this into the ser into the circuit and that's it. >> Like a construction trailer.
>> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. Exactly. >> Okay. >> Hi, I'm Robert Beg, fire chief. I got a few questions for you. >> Okay. I got the plan over the internet, but it doesn't show the actual location
as far as distance from the edge of the road. It doesn't tell me whose property it's on. And there's a lot of information that's really needed because my biggest concern there is with these people, not not ever so often, is that is an area that I found is very
vulnerable to having automobile accidents quite often. We just have them last week again where the people get off the edge of the road and end up in the ditch and stuff right there. The landlords across the street can testify to that. And I'm very concerned about,
you know, if you got that trailer right close to the road and a car crashes in it, you're going to have some serious problems. >> So I'm sure I understand. >> I am concerned about the distance from the edge of the road and how you going to protect that from a car. >> Okay.
>> I understand. Um um so if you're familiar with the area, um the the side of the road that it's going on is up the embankment a little bit. We're going to level it out a little bit to to create a driveway and then the trailer will be backed in and um I mean I would assume it's at least 20 ft from the edge of the
road. We're going to need a little bit of room for the poles and for to um put a switch, you know, a switch gear on the pole and then run the cables to the trailer. So, uh it it won't be close to the road. >> Can't be that far. >> So, whose whose property will will the
unit actually be on? >> Leslie Brown. Is it Leslie's? >> Yeah. >> Or is it uh Ziggler's right? >> It's Leslie and she made some kind of contract with these guys
>> and um but the uh the other folks that you're that own all around it. I'm representing them too and um my son and I who have across the street in the mill. So, another requirement that I would want to
see is that it you post it with a sign and an emergency number on it in case something goes wrong so somebody can call that immediately instead of just going through the 911 channel. I mean, this is a lot like a solar field basically because it's battery charges. >> Yep. Yep. Agreed.
>> We have one solar big solar array field in town now that we've had only one incident at it. wasn't really an incident, but the flames went off in the trailer because the batteries are in and uh it took hours for somebody to get the hours and that's concerning.
>> Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, I can understand that concern for sure. So, I would, you know, I would like to see, you know, something in writing as to how far off the road it is and how you protecting it and and how
you're maintaining the security of it and uh >> Okay. >> And what happens in the case of incident, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. No problem. I'm sure we could we could we could post up a sign, you know, with an emergency contact number on it. Um it will have a
um a perimeter fence around it. Um just a simple like construction fence um and just you know so that people can't approach it you know. >> Well that might keep the vehicles from if they had to get off the road getting in at it too that fenced
the straightest road in Conway right there. >> No, but they uh they they always walk the edge of the road here for some reason >> cuz they're going too fast. >> Well, we won't talk. >> You're not paying attention. As soon as your tires get in that hitch, it's all done. >> That's right. It's all done. Is the plan to lay a concrete pad?
>> No. >> Um, is the trailer going to remain on wheels >> and just be parked? >> Yes. >> And anchored? >> Yes. >> Um, are there any noise or resonance coming from the trailer? >> Uh, from what I understand, there might
be like a a very small humming noise just just the same as you would hear from an overhead transformer or a padmount transformer. um you know any uh it'll it'll kind of just blend into the to the um to the surroundings. Um this is also not a permanent structure. This is this is
going in the trial period. Um we're we're trying to work it in um to to to experience it to to get knowledge data. Um and and it's I believe actually I saw our engineers in there now. How long is the the trial term? Uh I think so.
>> It's a it's a moving target as of right now, but at the very least through the winter as is is the period that we see the most outages for this circuit. So certainly we would want to uh have it last through winter. So I'd say at least expect it probably through April. >> Well, that would be that would be
another concern of mine if you're going to mount it in the field there on a set of tires and it stays there for a long period of time. What if they get a brush fire in the field? somebody throws a cigarette out driving by catches a field on fire and it burns in under that trailer, you got some serious problems.
Whereas we're setting on a concrete pad and it would certainly prevent that. But also, I understand now you're talking it's only going to be temporary. I would think that you would have to in your permitting process from town, we have to specify the length of that permit and
how long it's going to be there. And just before I forget in the in the discussion for sounds, I do want to also share that the trailer is equipped with an audible alarm uh on site as well. So if it is misoperating, you you you will hear, you know, if you're near in the
vicinity, you will hear an alarm and we should also be uh aware of of such alarm if it is going off as well. >> So as a person across the street, I will hear the alarm. >> It's not super loud. Um yeah, I I really you're the the house like where it's
going to be right in front of your garage, right? And you're lower. >> Exactly. >> Um consider you lower and you're at least 500 ft plus, right? From roadside the the home itself >> probably. >> Uh no, >> no, >> closer. >> Closer.
>> Um yeah, >> it's tough to put like say a decibel number to it. It's not like an obnoxious like fire alarm type thing. It's more of u >> I think it's it's the more the bigger concern is the response time.
>> I see. No, certainly. So I think to take a step back here these two locations so the circuit overall forever source is the priority circuit right now in terms of both our response time to outages because you know individual customers uh you may not experience too bad of a
reliability or or an outage response per se but overall this circuit uh is has lower response time than the average circuit in Western. So, right off the bat, we want to at the very least for the next seven weeks of the year, we
want to improve uh response time to outages. We are uh looking to have dedicated crews. If we're going to have say an outage event for a weekend or something, we're going to have an an additional crew in the town of Conway or Ashefield for for this for these two
circuits. So, uh make no mistake, this is our top priority. It wouldn't be something that you know it'd be the back of our mind or something. Should anything happen? Never mind this battery. Our response time should be the best. >> So, we have potential noise concerns. What about lights? Are there any beacons?
>> No. >> Um, how are you grounding? >> Oh, go ahead. >> I was just going to mention too, I just want to mention too, like part of this battery program is that it will be tied into our dispatch system. So, like if the alarm like Gilberto was talking
about the if it's um uh if it's having some sort of error, it'll be communicating with dispatch immediately. Like they'll know right away. So, it it won't even be like the neighbor's not going to have to call to say the alarm's going off again. Like, we're going to know before she even hears it. >> Okay. So, if you're not laying a pad and
you don't have an O-ring for grounding, how are you guys grounding this unit? You just using ground rods? Yeah, I'm not I'm not too familiar with the grounding system for the for the battery itself, especially considering it's DC. The I would have to assume that
that's certainly an action item I can take and follow up. >> Um but certainly can't can't verify currently. >> Is this some new method that you people just starting to use yours or you have in other locations for a while already? >> No. No. So this would be the first. So,
we've only deployed this unit here was originally designed to help support a planned outage. Say um this building needed an outage uh and we couldn't feed it from sea, but on the same token, you can't afford to be out now. We would
have brought it, parked it outside, connected ahead of time, and basically switch you to this device. in this method that we're trying to use not for one singular customer for a planned outage but on a section of the circuit for an unplanned outage. Uh it is the
first time that we will be deploying it as such >> like anywhere in the state of Massachusetts or like for >> I can only speak for western mass uh but certainly anywhere for western mass. So it is it's the same device. Uh we've used it last summer. We used it in
Greenfield and it was connected to this circuit but it wasn't for unplanned outage. It was for peak shaving. So uh the circuit has a limit and in the summer it tends to get closer for the circuit in Greenfield. So we use this battery to basically supplement that to avoid uh the circuit getting to the
limit. So it was on there for a month and a half to two charging every night overnight and then discharging between 5:00 and 7:00 p.m. So we have a decent amount of of rep time if you will with the device itself. But in terms of the application, it's a different application. This one is it'll be there.
It won't be discharging every day or something for scheduled time. will be there. Should we between where it's installed back to the to the to the station on the Wilder Hill location or where it's installed on on South Shelurn Road back to uh 216 there, should we
lose any any section there, then the battery will automatically pick up the remaining customers going towards the end. >> So, understand this is a trial. Is the the goal here if this trial does work out that this would be temporarily used like seasonal? So you would set this for
the winter knowing that during the winter freezing branches fall power goes out. So this wouldn't be a permanent structure. It would only be anticipated outage seasonal structure. >> Correct. Yes. And a lot of it is fluid
because we have decent a limited number of these devices only two at the moment. And uh I anticipate if it if it proves to be successful that other areas will like oh I want to do that too. and uh depending if they for that year they have worse liabilities than economy for example right so it might be forced to
be shifted around but the actual the long-term plan at least for us here in uh out of Hadley is to if this proves to be successful to hopefully deploy smaller scale batteries that would be almost like a padmount transformer that would be installed permanently at a certain location and it would be a much
smaller pickup zone so we would go probably towards the end of Wilder Hill right for the last 10 15 customers put a, you know, somewhat of a small pad at the base of a pole that would be there, uh, you know, 365, uh, shoot and kind of
sprinkle them throughout, uh, the the circuit in the in the town. >> So, what what were the deciding factors to have Eversource use Conway as sort of a guinea pig? >> Uh, it's really circuit reliability. It's not necessarily the the locations
happen to be Conway because majority of the circuit does serve Conway. That's one. Another aspect, a lot of it that we had to play, we had to think of was the logistic of it as well. There's a lot of areas that could benefit, but we just simply couldn't fit that trailer there.
We needed a location that it is what we call a radial circuit. So, one way in, if you lose anywhere along there, those customers are out until we put it back. Versus if you lose, say from the station south on Baptist Corner or anyway on 116, we can back feed it from either end
up to where the problem is. So that's why they're you can look at oh why don't you put it there it's just like they already have a solution a redundant method but for these areas Wilder Hill and Southern Road if they're out they're out until we fix it otherwise if we get these online these customers downstream
so it's about 127 on Wilder whale and beyond and 70 on South Shelber and beyond they would have been automatically picked up while we fix the issue. Um, >> yes. >> So, you know, in this town, as you know, because been to plenty of these, our
concerns are always going to be environmental based. So, like the fire chief said, you know, there has to be preventive measures against fires, whether that's laying down a concrete pad or having some type of gravel to prevent brush fire, making sure there's
no trees or any shrubs nearby that could catch fire. And then the neighbor obviously she's not want gonna want to hear a alarm going off or buzzing. And this trailer is not the prettiest thing in the world. So I don't know if there's an idea to kind of
>> disguise it behind plants. I know I just said keep plants away because of fire. >> Well, if it's temporary, I mean >> they've already cleared the area. >> Okay. >> Which is how we were like what's happening. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Is this all on private property? >> Both of them are. So you already have contracts with the land owners. >> Yes. >> The gra certainly we tried considering this is temporary considering especially the town and really everybody should be mindful of the environment. We want it
to have the least impact as as as absolutely necessary. The the gravel certainly something that we could uh bring to the table. It's a somewhat uh easy easy method to to then reverse right later. Um but you know if
the the town is absolutely adamant that is concrete pad we certainly can it's just we would have to would hate because then >> believe that pretty either. >> Right. Right. Right. >> Especially if it's a temporary thing. >> Right. Certainly the vegetation it is again in our interest as well to to
ensure that that does not get affected because we want it to be able to help in case it will need to be helping. Right. >> So we would need to know the perimeter you know from the source from the trailer how far out it needs to go to
be within the limitations of not >> I would say you know it's a anybody's guess. Okay. Right. depending on the size of the fire if you have them >> wind. >> No, I would say minimum 10 ft. >> Right. Um certainly
off the bat, nothing that we are against. Right. Go ahead, Jesse. >> I was going to say we have to take in consideration too that this is this is a winter thing. This isn't going to be a permanent thing through this dry heat of the summer either. You know, we're going to install this in December and and pull it in April or May. >> The likelihood of fire in the middle of
the winter. >> Yeah. in the springtime you go pull the whole unit away. >> Yeah. Is that what you're saying? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> But I think that's what I mean to Bob's point. I think some of this stuff like these plans don't have dimensions. It doesn't have the distance. I mean I think we would like to see >> you were just saying that in the future
you're hoping to use more of these in different locations. That's it. >> Um, >> so in terms of in terms of dimensions, >> uh, we certainly have the the perimeter that we will be using for sure. We know
the the length and width of the trailer. We know the fence will have to be at the very least 3 ft of that. So we know the the least surface area that we will be taking. >> Now I know the conversation is kind of reverse here. We hey, can you expand that to prevent fire? Certainly a conversation we can have. Uh but we do
have at least some starting dimensions to share if they haven't been already. >> But Bob, is that something that you would want to see in writing? Like you want to see the plans of like the actual >> I would take the town of county want to see in writing from them in the permit application as to what the length of the
stay of this thing. >> Yeah, I would like Yeah, definitely. Like if you're going to pull it out, they'd like to know when that's going to be. Listening to this right here, the information that was sent to me, it was for a pole hearing for the one trail installation on the Shelvin Falls Road. And now it sounds like you're going to
be sticking one up on Wilder Hill, too. Is that in the same permit tonight? >> Yes, there's two. Is there? >> Yes, >> because that wasn't idea where that location there. I have not looked at >> I'm curious how far this is from the
river because I believe I could be wrong that there are some restrictions um about building stuff or um I'm not exactly sure of the language. Um >> it's 100 to 200 feet from the
>> I thought it was 500. >> No, no, no. I think it's 200. >> 200 Mac. Yeah. >> Okay. I was talking to J. Okay. So the other question I have is if so given that this is a trial um uh where do
concerns get registered uh once it's in place? >> Certainly uh I believe the town is having my contact. I uh I am the one of the people involved with the uh deploying this here. I chose this location specifically. It certainly is
in my best interest that it goes well. So certainly uh I'm Gilbert Berta Silva just uh to disclose. So certainly I would say probably I'll be the first contact probably the easiest definitely the most successful I would think. >> So we would go through the administr >> you could go through me to and I can
email >> and if I need to escalate it bring it to operations or other groups that that aren't directly my group certainly. So number >> as far as getting back to the uh fire h of this thing in the springtime
is much greater than it is here in Colorado because we know the grass is just start to die off now and it's getting cold in the springtime everything's completely dead dry standing dead dry for a few months to start greening up that's your more critical time of year.
>> Do you have like a cut off date you'd want it to be gone by like May 1st? Well, William freshman usually most your brush fire seasons during the month, >> right? >> And uh just to throw throw it out there, is that a um
is that a priority versus the customers having uh the backup source? So, in other words, should management see like, hey, this has performed very well. We had a couple of outages where it worked so well. Right now, there's no need for it anywhere
else in the system. You could pull it from from Conway, but you really would just be parking it Hadley versus keeping it online and uh and hopefully being of of need aid to customers. Is that still It's like, oh, you know, we understand all that, but our
>> trying to say you're make this a permanent location. >> No, no, not permanent. But so the ulti the top goal for Eversource is to test it for the winter >> to have backup power for the winter which is the where we have the most >> exposure >> but the exposure is still there in the
fall still there in the summer a lot less likely but possible right so if it's not needed anywhere else I can't see management say which would make sense like hey why remove it if it's >> thing though like that question should be forever source alone what is the historical trend of outages in the given
months that You guys want it there, right? Right. >> That's why they said it's there is from data you have why you picked that spot. >> Right. Right. Why we picked this, you know, this fall >> frequency of outages >> and you know the goal was to install it to have it on by now. >> Uh it's just that originally the plan
was to have it manual deployment where we' have an out someone come patrol it uh and then give the command to close it in. Uh but we're trying to make it automatic so that doesn't occur. So again better benefit because it operates faster. I would think nowadays with so many people working from home and
remotely and everything, I bet if you pulled the people living up there, they would very much prioritize they want to be able to be online when they need to be online. >> I just, you know, I'm not I'm not saying now that Eversource plans to keep it for later. I just want to keep the door open. We can commit to right now to
removal of 51. >> Uh, you know, that certainly would cover our primary goal. It's just that would an extension of that limit be off the table or we can have the conversation. I think it' be up for discussion. >> Yeah, I think we'd want to revisit it at that point. And because it seems like if like if if the experiment works for you
guys and you're like, "This is great. >> We don't need it this summer, but we might need it again this fall." Then I I can see why we might want to, you know, leave it in place. But I also don't want to, you know, >> open the door to having this large these large facilities for an extended period of time.
>> Gotcha. You haven't deployed the smaller system. >> It's more about the communication. It's not just dumped there and left there and stay there forever and nobody has any say about it. We have checks and balances that you know by that date you're going to either come back to us with some data about
>> how what what this is doing and how it's helping or you know makes sense to just get it out of there. >> Okay. You know, sounds good. Perfect. Thank >> the one on Wilder Hill. I mean you have an address for Shelurn but not Wilder but I see 258. Is that the address? >> Yes.
>> Um no. Yes. >> So that's near um a brook and like a large um >> what you call like a water shed type area. >> I don't think
>> I don't. >> Yes. Yes, it is. It is. So we shared 258 because that's the residence. So I'm not sure. Are you looking at the sketch or I'm sorry. Are you looking at the sketch? I'm looking at Google. >> Okay. I'm looking at
>> is the residence, >> but it's actually across the street on the numbers >> southern end of Wilder. No, it's listed as zero. >> No, it's the same, right? I don't think that's 200 ft.
>> I was That's all I'm saying is like that it has 200 ft. >> Fire chief. I would like to look at all the hills before. >> Yeah. Um, so it it's it sounds to me like what we'd like to see, I think, is
the petition updated with some more specifics. So, drawings that actually have the uh distance from the road that show the perimeter of the fencing. >> Um, some commitment in writing that there's going to be signage there with
an emergency contact number. >> Um, I think we want to see the date of removal. Okay. >> Um and some addressing grounding and fire prevention, >> I think. Is that
>> Yes, that sounds correct. >> We have another hearing of meeting in two minutes. So, >> okay. And then and then we can just we can we can I mean, if we get that in the next two weeks, right, can we schedule another full hearing? I mean, I don't I don't feel like we're quite ready to sign off on this.
Yeah, we could do that in two weeks if >> Yeah, >> do you mind if I hold on to the packets? >> No, please. >> I'm just Yeah, I'll be here. That's December 1st, right? >> Yes. >> Yeah, I'll be here.
>> While the Hill Road, you have it marked out where it's going to be located. >> Um I'm not sure in the field we've cleared the the area. It's not marked out. There's it's right behind pole 17, Jesse, or 16. >> Yes. >> 17.
>> Yeah. 17. >> Yeah. >> So, so really if you see P 17 is you'll see clear there right behind it. Uh but I'm not sure if it's clearly marked with like stakes or anything in the fields like the perimeter or anything like that. >> Is next to the driveway?
>> No, it's uh so we listed 258 because that's the residence of the Mr. Sanger, right? Uh but it's really on another parcel that he owns across the street on the southern end of of Wilder Hill. >> So in other words,
>> easterly side of Wilder Hill. >> Thank you very much. >> Wilder Hill runs north side. >> Okay. All right. >> So he lives on the west side of the road. >> So So east side. >> We have a we have to our next regularly scheduled meeting. Um but so we'll we'll
get those we can send you the notes about the specific the more specific information that we want but um we'll just plan to have another hearing after we get all the information. >> Great. >> Thank you >> to close
to the meeting with the second. >> All in favor? I >> All right. Uh motion to reopen the meeting. Um again, it is a joint meeting with our finance committee. So
>> no, no, you just have to um call me. >> All right. So I'm calling the meeting to order. >> Um it is 6 o'clock Monday, November 17th, and um we don't have a quorum yet. >> Okay. So we don't have >> um so that's fine. We will go through
our housekeeping uh All right. So, first item, vote to approve the minutes of November 3rd. Um those looked great. I'm going to make a motion. >> I'll second. All >> in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Um unfinished business. We have skipped
over this the past couple meetings and that's my fault, but um we uh the contract for Upper Pioneer Valley Veterans District Services, we usually um have a two-year contract that we neglected to sign um on July 1st. So,
>> Oh, no. They they send this out really early. >> Oh, okay. >> So, they're early. We're not we're not late. >> Oh, good. Oh, so wait. I did sign. >> Oh, okay. So, all right. Motion to um motion to sign a contract for another two-year
um contract with Upper Pioneer Valley. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I discuss. Okay, we're just going to move ahead until Oh, we have a quum. Okay. All right. So, we have a quorum. So, all right. I'll let you call. You may need to order. >> Thank you. I make a motion to call the finance committee in order. Second. All
in favor? >> I Oops. I >> reflex. >> I make a motion to approve the October 6, 2025 Conway finance meeting minutes as presented. Second. All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> All right. All right. Thank you. It
carries. Thank you. Thank you. >> Okay. So, we are here to review and vote on the town meeting um warrant articles, >> but I would I would say if you're going to want to decide if you want to open the warrant to add that article before you go through them.
>> Okay. >> I'm going to close the warrant and then you can vote on the whole thing. >> Okay. All right. So, >> do we have So, so the only thing right now we don't have um we closed the warrant without adding an article 14 which basically says that
we're no longer going to mail >> um the town. >> Oh, we did that. Sorry. It was the one for I actually renumbered it. >> Oh, that's why. >> So, it's in our Come on. Article 10. >> Oh, that's 13. Sorry. Yes, it's article
10. Yes, it's article 10. And what it is is I have thought by this time we would know whether or not we had gotten the grant from the Massachusetts Office of Disability for ADA self-evaluation.
So, and rather than and we have to complete that before we can apply for the Lula lift. So, rather than wait until annual town meeting to even be able to do if we don't get the grant to be able to do the self-evaluation, I
thought, oh, if we could throw it on really quickly now, then if we do get the grant, I should know by this Friday, you can just table the article. >> Okay. Um and then if we don't get it then at least we could move forward with self evaluation. >> I'll make a motion to reopen special
town meeting warrant to add article as shown 10 um to appropriate uh transfer of funds for the American Disability Act self-evaluation. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I so warrant is back open. So now we can
>> and you can close the warrant because >> All right. So I now I I move that we well. Okay. Yeah. No, I move that we close the warrant having added that article. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> Okay. All right. Now we can review with finance already.
>> Free cash. >> And we do have Gemma here to talk about um the ambulance article. Thank you. >> Can you reaffirm how much our free cash came in? >> 94,000 to $247 approximately
>> $89, >> which is about close to 11% of them. >> Remember that number? It's like what? >> I know, right? Yes. Thanks. >> So, one through
we're going through all the finance committee recommendations correct >> yes I think so >> so every article outside of 12 and 14 >> 12 13 and 14 are all >> it says 13 finance committee >> recommend that was my bad sorry it
should not be on >> okay >> so 1 through 11 and Most we've talked about. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> But we >> Yeah. >> about financing. >> Um but since >> we haven't talked any of >> Yeah. So since that time actually the
amount I found out the amount that's in our stabilization account for the ambulance is more than I thought >> which was nice because then we were able to take down the amount from free cash which I then just threw into the article. >> Oh good. Bad.
>> Um but yeah. >> Is this the update what's written? You said >> are these 451641? >> Yes. >> Yes. That's the updated and it had been 70,000 from free cash. Now it's 46. >> Okay. >> So better.
>> Yep. So >> So what? So the purchase price of the was budgeted 537 857. Is that >> correct? >> Good. Any discussion? >> We on it, John? >> Yeah. I mean we had discussions about
this. Oh yeah. out last season. So, >> yes. >> Yeah. >> No questions. >> You don't have any questions for Gemma about >> No questions, J. >> You're night. >> I'm a fan. >> What's the trade in value of the current ambulance? >> Um,
>> is there any >> at this point? It's up in the air and it will probably diminish by the time the new ambulance is ready. >> Yeah. What's the lay time on the construction that you know >> um at this point he's thinking we would take ownership of it in first quarter of
2027. >> So it's a while a while >> but this would include the striker right there's like 80 almost 83,000. Will this total amount includes about a $30,000 kind of like cushion for any unforeseen,
you know, tariff, price increase, whatever. >> As well as I believe the striker, the complete power load system is about 85 to 87,000. >> Um, that's like the power stretcher that they like South County has that you just push it in and it lifts everything up
and we're not killing ourselves trying to lift people anymore. >> Um, >> excellent. Yeah, >> I'm very excited about that. >> Um, but there are some grants that we've been looking into through with Striker. The Striker rep has told us about a few
different ones. Um, if we can get one of those grants, then that will cover the entire system. Um, so once I have more information on that, I'll talk to Baron. You can do all the paperwork and stuff that we got to do as far as that goes. But,
>> but that number is not included in this. is included. >> It is included. >> So there's >> So if we appropriate this then and we get the grant >> then we don't have to spend that. >> Yeah. So >> so we'll appropriate up to 537. >> I'm hoping that it's going to come in
significantly under that if we can find >> any other grants or anything else in the meantime. U maybe prices will go down. >> Maybe it Hey, I'm a comedian. What can I say? No. >> Optimist. There you go.
Low blood sugar. >> That's awesome. >> Is there any kind of a a picture or something you can bring to town meeting? >> Somebody bring to bring the town meeting so people can appreciate the design engineer. >> Actually, put it on like foam board or
something so not look quite so >> I can hold it up if you want. It's been wrinkled in my truck. >> You know what? If I can figure out how and where it I I'd love to scan that so that we could just put it up on the website, too. >> Okay. There I have a small I don't know
if in this little booklet it's got like an overview like this or if this is all just like >> this is like compartment by compartment. >> Yeah, they probably could just email it to me. Yeah. >> Yeah. I can ask Taylor if he can um send us something digitally as far as the
specs and stuff just and this has some marks that we had we had changed some stuff around once we do the contract and everything they'll send us the finalized there will be multiple versions and you know the plans before we finalize everything. Um,
but >> nothing will change on that if the roof gets raised in the public safety garage, right? >> No, because height's not an issue. >> No, that'll actually that'll be even better because then height really won't be an issue. >> Um, but it won't change anything on the
overall part of this. Okay. >> Um, at this point, the the generalized outline and, you know, design and stuff will be pretty much the same. Excellent. Okay, let's get a new ambulance in and hope I never take a
ride. >> Make a motion to move article one as presented. Second. All in favor? I >> I >> make the same motion for the select board. >> Second. All >> in favor? I Okay,
>> the next one's fun. Nothing. Yeah, I >> So, Alan, I did raised the issue you raised the last time we met about wasn't the insurance
>> broker we're going with, weren't they? >> Um, didn't they see the cliff coming? >> And I have a whole bunch of information about their and I can send that to you. Thank you. >> Yes. So, I did ask and I got a lot of
numbers and I will send it to you. >> Thank you very much. Good to know. >> Yeah. >> It's also good to know because you know you all know that. >> Thanks. >> We were kind of spoiled for the percentages instituted the last I don't know four or five years
>> right >> seeing which you know. So we got I want to look at those numbers to see because what we're voting for here is more than just insurance also to be capitalized. >> Yep. >> To make sure that the level of capitalization is well it's good at
least the next couple years >> right >> beyond that who know >> right >> that's I will forward that to you. >> Thank you very much. >> They are meeting tomorrow. I'll attend that meeting and they're going to be recommending an interim
>> firm to consulting firm. >> And they also did Roy had brought up the reinsurance, >> right? And they do have it. They just didn't >> have enough. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So they removed >> that's really a term
insurance. >> Absolutely. Yep. >> So there were savings from removing GLP1 um from most of people that submitted for it, but those savings were negated. >> Oh, >> from other claims >> claims. Oh,
>> isn't that >> Yeah. >> ironic. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just worked out. >> It It just worked out. >> It just worked out where they still got the same amount. >> Fantastic. >> I know what they're doing. >> Yeah.
>> Anyway, I make a further discussion and I I >> No, I just appreciate being looped in. >> Yeah. Thank you very much during the process. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah, all those emails was pretty. >> Did I blow up your inbox? >> No, not really.
>> No, I was just a lot to understand this whole thing. I mean, you know, this was >> it's a very sophisticated and undertaking. There's a lot a lot. >> Do we got to have any questions, comments, suggestions about the re insurance? >> No, let's go. >> Okay. >> Suggestions Medicare for all.
>> Yes. start. You can start and our state. >> All right. So, I make a motion to present article two as presented. Second. All in favor? >> I >> I >> I. >> Thank you. >> Make the same motion on behalf of the select board. >> Begrudgingly second.
>> All in favor? >> I >> This is hardware upgrade. Yeah. >> Can Can we get some detail on that since we hadn't been part of that discussion? >> As succinctly as possible. >> Yeah. >> When we got the quote for the upgrade to
go for the I mean, this is the way that they've explained it to me. The quote and we budgeted to move from in-house tech support to this other system. >> It all looked well and good. And then then when they came in and got their hands on our actual hardware, they were
like, "We can't possibly deal with them." >> They saw how antiquated it was. >> Yeah. Which I mean to me I was like I would have I mean they were on site like they came to vis I don't know how they they didn't factor that in in the first place. >> The way they explained it to me was that they didn't have access to the internal
of the machines. They saw what they were from the outside, >> but they hadn't gotten permission to get into the machines yet. So that's how they explained it to me that it's not well it's most machines but it's not all of them. >> Um but the way they explained it everything
every machine has to be at a certain level to be able to use the cloud. That's the way they explained it. >> You know that's fine. It's sorry we have old technology in the office. That's fine. It's not suitable for for what they they need to provide support. Correct. >> That's all good. Do we have a list of
what what it is we're getting? >> Yes. >> Okay. Yes. >> And can somebody like tell us what we're doing? >> Um, it's most of the machines that we have the actual computers going to be >> computers. Uh, >> do we have
>> we we definitely have it in the quote. Um, >> yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Oh, it's all Yeah, I can >> send you the quote and and some of it was also two new fire two firewalls. Mhm. >> Um, that one was on them because they knew we had four buildings and they only
put in two in the so we needed another. I'm like, okay, we have you don't put not put firewalls in the uh the other two buildings. >> Did we have the leverage to hold their feet to the fire on any of this? I mean, considering we accepted their quote and
voted on it based on >> No, because those two weren't in there. So, in other words, the they didn't put the fire the first time. >> That's fine. I mean, I see that. >> I wish I could. I mean, you ask if there's some guarantee that they're not going to come back and ask us for more money once they start. >> Well, that's that's my my concern is
that, you know, we've signed the contract and now they're coming and adding all these add-ons. >> It's a lot of add-ons. >> Yeah. And that we paid to have them do an assessment. >> Do an assessment evaluation >> and then they missed all of this on the assessment evaluation. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of >> Yep.
>> Not a great way to start a relationship. >> No, it's not. >> No. >> Yeah. Um, but we're kind of in it now. >> We're kind of hamstrung at this point with with, you know, >> and it's not as if it's wasted money
because it's >> all phrases. Firewall is very important. >> Yeah. >> I mean, and we're actually stalled in the migration. We can't do it until after town meeting has >> approved approved. They weren't willing
to even like you know purchase the equipment until after tax which >> which makes sense. >> So we also you know we paid source pass the money but we also are still paying for our internal tech support essentially because we haven't been able to make that transition. We hadn't you
know so we hadn't really budgeted for >> Okay. All right. >> Any further comments anyone? Rihanna or Roy >> I don't have comments. Okay. >> So, I make a motion to approve article 3
as presented. Second. All in favor? >> Wait. Allan. Allan. >> Allan. >> Yeah. >> Hello. >> Hello. We can hear. >> Can anybody hear me? >> Yes, we can all hear you. >> So, I just joined and I'm sorry. I apologies
for being late. Got caught in traffic. Um but um so is this this is the IT uh item? Is that correct? >> Yeah. >> Yes. >> Okay. And so you're v you're you're
voting to >> transfer from the general fund free cash the general fund to pay for this $38,025. >> Okay. Did I miss any pertinent discussion of of anything? just that it's necessary for upgraded devices
>> and we can't move forward with the migration until we have the upgraded equipment. >> And to do that, we need approval from town meeting, >> right? >> And we hope this is the last surprise expense that they hit us with, but we are not 100% sure that there won't be something else down the down the line.
>> Well, you think they'd be pretty thorough, but >> yeah. >> All right, we're in the middle of a vote. >> Any further comments for you? You can abstain if you like. as you can. You should have the notes, by the way,
for the uh tonight the warrant was emailed to me. >> So, we have we have a we have a >> Well, do you have a motion? We have a second. >> Yep. All in favor?
>> I I that's two. Roy, are you abstaining? Um I I just uh So this is this is going to show up as a finance committee recommended. >> Yes. >> If the vote >> Yeah.
>> That's for a special town meeting. Yeah. >> No, I understand. Let me ask you. Does anybody think there's going to be push back at this meeting? >> I'm not I mean there'll be questions. I'm not sure what the push can back can
be. I'm sure >> if someone has a better suggestion if they want to fight for us that would be good too. Yeah. >> No. So is it I mean it's >> it's actually not that it's not that untypical honestly >> for when a company comes in and actually
gets into the >> the more >> weeds >> weeds of your system that they're going to find things they didn't know and there's going to be a different cost. It's not that unusual. We don't like it, but it's not that unusual.
>> Here's my I guess what I'm thinking is they should have picked this up when they were scouting around me when they were putting together the proposal. >> We were just We already talked about agree on that. >> Yes, >> we agree. We agree. And there's nothing we can do.
>> So, hang on. Hang on. Of that $38,000, there's X amount for hardware and the rest is configuration and migration. get them to make some concessions there. >> All right. But we can still approve it as is. And you know,
>> we're on a very tight timeline to get moving forward here. Like it's tight. And if this doesn't happen, the migration doesn't happen. So, we've already been put behind by how many months now? >> Well, it was supposed to be done in September. No.
>> Right. Many months. So, like I'm sure Veronique and Erica did some negotiating. Um, but >> we can certainly >> I I don't know. It It's It um they make
you they can make you feel very um what's the word I'm looking for? Um they can make you feel like, you know, you have no choice about anything. You do this or else. And it's like, okay, fine. You guys didn't they should
make some concession. Hardware is what it is. They make a little money on the hardware. It's not a lot, but certainly on the configuration side, but anyway, I I'm I'm not going to hold it up, but you're hearing my concerns and I I will vote for it if everybody else is voting.
>> Okay. Rihanna, is that a yay for you? >> Yes. >> Yeah, she said. Yeah. >> All right. Same motion for select board. >> A second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> And I'm sure you guys will try to get what you can out of them. >> Absolutely. >> Well, certainly we'll try not to spend any more.
>> I do I do agree with them. You can't do anything about hardware but services. You definitely can't. >> Yeah. >> Article four street lights. >> Um just to update you about this one. I I did ask
the um Eversource to update the price to purchase. Originally it was like 5100 and that was for 67 lights. >> Um I don't know where I saw 3,000 for I couldn't find it in my notes, but I
asked a couple weeks ago, can you tell me if 3,000 is enough? And they hadn't gotten back to me. So I put in 3500 just in case. But it's still kind of a guess at this point. >> I saw 3,000 also, but 3500 is a good >> cover. >> Okay. All right. >> This is for 38.
>> Yeah. And yeah, I was advised to take out the number just in case. >> Okay. >> So, we don't have to say the actual number of street lights. We just say we're >> might we be able to estimate what our cost savings will be from the from the removal? I mean, I'm just assume that someone's going to ask like, well, if we're spending $3,500, like how are we
>> turn the lights off? Yes. >> Um, wasn't the cost savings in the grant that just went out? I can get that out. >> That's the present time meeting this year. >> Yeah. We'll just be prepared. >> I think it pretty sure was 5,500.
>> Like it cut our bill in half. Yeah. >> And our bill yearly is around 10,000. >> Exactly. Yeah. Our annual cost for all of it is about 10,000. >> That's a pretty good payback. >> Yes. And a fast payback. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's pretty good. I make a motion to approve article four
as presented. >> Second. I in >> favor. I >> I >> I >> I hear. >> All right. Same motion for select board. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I to number five.
>> Uh yeah, this is just about payments owed to a boy. >> Anybody need an explanation on it? Yes, please. >> Oh, please. >> Um, so I discovered a mistake um that
had been made over the years on the amount of money somebody was paid the stipend. >> Underpaid. >> Oh, underpaid. >> By quite a bit. >> How many years? >> Uh, about 10, maybe a little longer. Um, so
>> and it was just because of eagle eyes on the budget where she was like there shouldn't be this much money in the account if you'd actually been. >> So the the employee didn't contract. >> Oh, so so it wasn't that the budgeting was a problem. It was that the actual payment was a problem. So accounting had a
>> So this this had been budgeted for 10 years, but for whatever reason this person was not paid a statement. >> Oh. Oh. Not paid at all. >> Not paid at all. Not paid amount. not paid the full amount that had been voted. >> Jeez. >> I budgeted. >> So, does this represent some sort of interest acral on?
>> No. >> This is just a straight >> dollars. Yep. >> And they're okay with that. >> To the best of my knowledge, yes. >> Yes. That's why we like to get them compensated quickly as possible.
>> They can make a donation to it. It just seemed, you know, it was an error that I spotted and I went. >> How many years did you go back? 10 years. You just >> at least 10 years. >> At least 10 years. >> Yeah. Actually, I think No, I think it was 2015. >> So, somebody that's been in the same
position for 10 years >> or more. >> Or more. >> All right. >> Bique is the new favorite person of this person. >> You have to pay taxes on. >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
>> I think they know what they're getting. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> There's no free lunch right now. >> Are we getting anything signed between the town and this individual that says this this is not accepted? >> Yeah. >> I can certainly do that. >> I think you need to do that.
>> Yeah. Let's say town council is well aware of this. >> Oh, good. >> Well, I'm sure that she'll say, "Yeah, we need some sort of, you know, agreement between the town and this individual and says, okay, you know, >> this this closes the case. They can't pursue us for
lost wages. >> Y >> well, this might be the most discussed thing. >> I'm a little surprised they didn't say anything. >> It's all a little convoluted the way the payments go in because it's for more than one thing. And so there's there are
reasons it's all from one employee >> and it was honestly quite a few people who were involved who all missed it. >> Oh, okay. And it was only until I >> shows how astute our current town >> when you go in when I go into the budget and like I write expended >> you know and you've been very good about
reminding me I need to put on what it's I was doing that today what's been expended and I looked at that line all across I went why was that amount budgeted and only that amount spent. >> Oh no. >> And that's where I found >> all those years over free cash.
>> All right. >> I make a motion to present article five as presented. Second. All in favor? >> I >> um I have a question. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if it's relevant, but I wonder if there was a shortage in the
payment for 10 years. There is going to be a legal issue related to that. Sometimes people request some kind of compensation. >> Yeah. it has >> that has not happened.
Um and so the easiest way for us to deal with this I believe having spoken with town council is simply to pay the amount that's due. Um if as as was suggested, we will definitely get something signed that says that's it, we're done. Um and
if for some reason that doesn't work, then I guess we'll have to deal with it. So, but at least if the money's appropriated, we can, you know, approach and say, "Here we have the money and be happy to just Yeah. make good on this." And
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh, we're waiting for a vote from you two, Roy and Rihanna. >> Okay. I >> in favor Roy.
>> I >> Thank you. Um, same motion for select board. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I to six. >> Okay, this one I know might seem a little convoluted, but we had $37,000
that was appropriated in 2022 to pay this transfer station. Not all of that funds were used. So, I just am asking for a reallocation to be able to pay for some of the right to farms farm signs um and also for work
in the interior of the Conway Mall which needs to be um set up with electricity and um insulation and Yeah. So, which >> actually they're doing pretty well with the shelving. >> Oh, are they? Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Across a few chairs. Yeah. Yeah. Y >> will this close out the balance of that account or >> correct? >> Okay. Yep. >> Great. >> Y >> any further discussion? Roy John. Good. I make a motion to present article
six as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I >> I >> same motion for select board. >> Second. >> All in favor? All right. >> Bye. >> Um Nelson Shifflet and I might also do some work ourselves to save on that.
>> Nice. >> Oh, okay. So, seven, our town accountant is retiring and we're um hoping to go into a contract with Cabbiz
and the cost for hiring them um is 3,000 a month. It would be from February through June for five months. So, it's 15,000. So I needed to add some money to this year's >> right because we already budgeted for the existing account, right? So we have
existing services plus we need additional >> correct. So this will get us through the end of this fiscal year and then we're going to have to up the budget line, >> right? Then it'll be I think 375 >> for the whole year. >> Oh 375.
>> Thank you. Y >> All right. Any any discussion? Any further Rihanna or Roy? Makes sense. >> One one of the people here losing con by this. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And one of our former treasurers.
>> Correct. And they're both going to be working on our account. So it was like Conway Conway Conway. >> Get skin in the game. >> I know where they live. >> Exactly. >> I make to present article 7 as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? I
>> I >> I >> I >> uh same motion for select >> second. >> All in favor? >> Article eight. >> Uh so yeah, Jim was here, right? She explained it to you last time. So
>> um but for the finance committee, this is um there's a fence that the parks and rec um commission uh committee wants to replace on Weightley Road. Someone went along Weightley Road. Um, >> that's falling over.
>> Yes. Yeah, that one. >> The path that goes down, not >> path shortcuts. >> Yes. >> Right. So, they have 7,789 left in the remainder of a previous ballfield project. The total cost should
be no more than 15,000. So, they asked for the balance to make up 15,000. >> And they thought it was probably going to be closer to 12. Yeah, based on the bumps I got. >> And uh plowing won't affect it. >> Yeah. Okay. >> That was my question. Yeah.
>> Okay. Clean up the pressure, >> right? >> Yeah. Mhm. >> There is another fence they're going to come back and ask for, I think, for annual town meeting. >> Um, no questions. Have a question. Guarana on the fence?
No, not quite yet. >> Okay. I make a motion to pres to approve article 8 as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> I >> I uh say motion for select board.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Article nine. So, this is the fun one. Actually, there's a lot of articles in here where we're taking money that we already had and just reallocating it, which I, you know, Right. Right. >> Yeah. Um, so this one is um they
discovered just recently that the roof of the old highway garage has bad leaks in it. It needs to be replaced immediately. >> How do I discover that? >> When you say the roof, are you talking about the the decking and the shingles?
So you describe it about holding the trust structure. What do you >> I think they said it was the >> Because you just mentioned raising the roof. >> Well, I going to raise the roof. >> But that's two different things. There's actually two There's two roofs in that building. >> Oh, really? Okay. >> So, there's a flat roof and then when they re-roofed it
>> 40 years ago, >> they built a peak on it. >> Yeah. And half of its metal, half of it's asphalt. Um, so they they discovered recently that the new roof is leaking and before more damage happens, >> they want to replace that roof. >> Then another part of a project later on,
which is >> would be to demo the other roof >> would be to take out that roof which will mean they can raise the base >> the base from 10 to 12 >> which would affect the fire. >> Correct. >> Anyway, >> right. Yeah. >> Yeah. So any vehicle going forward, >> right,
>> we don't have to custom build anymore which would be amazing. in the long run is a win-win. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. In the long run. >> Um is there anything else involved besides raising the roof? Um because it says >> other associated costs because there may be other things inside the building that
they need to do >> the bathroom. >> Yeah. So if there's Yeah. The bathroom in the old one's already gone. >> The plumbing. Can I ask another question? >> Sure. >> When are they going to finish the damn building? Well, so everything >> and what's been the hold?
>> The children. >> Yeah, we use the Franklin County Tech School. >> Oh, it's it's all on their schedule. >> And they only come in for like two hours. I mean, it's not their fault. It's nobody's fault, but this is how you get an inexpensive building. >> So >> So the quote then is mostly
>> inexpensive by by whose measure? I'm sure Don is like chomping at the bit. >> I think everybody's chomping at the bit. >> Yeah. You know, they started that over well over a year ago. The price per square foot is remarkably low. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I think we said it was like 270 bucks.
>> Yeah. They they've done an amazing job. >> Okay. All right. >> Yeah. But that's free labor. >> Yeah. That's most of the hold up and you know, so nothing happened over the summer, right? >> Who? Oh, that's um we have Maple Farm is the contractor who's doing that. >> I'm just curious why they haven't
finished the sighting. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it's only half sighted. It's only been half sighted for most of this year. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Are we happy with the contract? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> They've done a good job. They used to be the Bon I'm sorry, the Dole brothers. >> Oh,
>> yeah. >> Okay. >> So, yeah. No, they they've been they've been good. >> Um, but there, like I said, so there may be other things. >> They probably just want to just bring a crew in when just to finish the thing out, right? >> To be honest with you, yes, that's part of it. >> Yeah. They don't want us part of the job
and wait a little bit more for bicycle and Yeah. They just wanted to finish. >> Exactly. >> Yeah, I get >> exactly. And the the other thing, just so you're aware, they did they had put out a separate bid for a concrete for the five bays >> because they're putting in radiant heat.
>> And so they've got two of them done. So Ken worked with the, you know, the students on that. They've got two of the bays done. >> They're not going to do the other three until the whole roof thing is done. >> Yeah. Right. >> Yeah. >> So So nobody drops anything on the new floor. >> Yeah.
or it leaks on it. >> Right. Right. >> Okay. >> So, anyway, so that's what that is. So, there's three different accounts that they can pull from. >> Mhm. >> Um to cover this and actually that does hopefully more than cover it. Now, obviously we're going to have to go out
to bid for this, but I think the guesstimate was 83,000 for a metal bridge. which will last another 50 years. >> That's is that going to be comes with or standing seam, >> you know, >> if for that price, I'm sure it's
>> probably standing seam, but >> if it's standing seam, that's a good You know what? It it would match the new. So, >> it probably is standing seam because the new one is >> it could be. I you know, that's I haven't I didn't get into that detail with them when they did got the quote for us. So
>> I would assume they're going to try to match the existing >> the new one. >> I would assume so. >> So that's >> now with Walter in charge. No, they do. He's he does he does a very good job. >> That's a good question. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Any further discussion?
>> None for me. >> I make a motion to approve article 9 as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I thank you. >> Uh same motion for select board. >> Second. All in favor? >> I
>> Okay, so article 10 is the is the monkey wrench I threw in. Um >> it's a reimburseable grant. >> Um actually, no, we would just Well, actually, yeah, I guess it is reimburseable. I haven't dealt with with the mod office for these reimburseable,
>> but yeah, but this one um would be to pay I I gotten a quote. I'm going to forget the name of the company now. We have tax >> to do um an ADA assessment of all of our buildings, all of our properties, and even the website, everything.
>> Okay. Oh boy. >> And then Yep. And then when that's done, we should be able to apply again next year for >> more grants. >> For for what? >> For more grants. >> For more. Correct. >> Exactly. Um and and we just need to we
just need to get modernized and be accessible and you know so anyway but this is just for the report itself of telling us what to do. So we're going to need to later on apply but >> they were supposed to let us know in October >> elevator in where the bank bank vault is. >> That's what I was saying. They make the
bank vault bigger so we don't access >> which oh over here >> in your building. >> Oh not our building. >> I'm worried about that building. >> Worried about this building. that building you couldn't even make accessible. >> Yeah. >> Um >> I think it'll make a nice brewery.
>> Thought not the economy to try to do that. >> It's probably true. >> But >> but so we may actually find out. We were supposed to find out in October. >> All right. >> If we got this or not. >> Okay. >> And I wanted to throw it on now because
>> I didn't want to wait till June just to be able to >> Yeah. pay for the report. If we could get that done, then we could apply, you know, next year. But we may be able to table this. >> Who's doing this? >> So, I can't remember. Oh, >> showing their license. >> Oh, absolutely. They did they did the
last one. They do have ties to people in Conway. So, um Institute for Local Self No, it I'll I'll email you with this. Um but >> it's a licensed contractor. Yeah. >> Absolutely. Yes. Yeah. They do this for
>> and they did this for us before like 10 >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah. >> No, I think it was something I think they need. >> I can't remember now. >> We're no more accessible now than we were. >> No. >> Yeah.
Any further discussion on this? >> Okay. Thank you. I make a motion to approve article 10. Recommend for approval article 10 as presented. Second. All in favor? I >> I >> I >> I >> same motion for select board.
>> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> look for Vault Brewing Company in the future. >> We got a lot of micro brewers. I got to visit. We got fire. >> I mean that vault is so cool in that building. But >> yeah.
>> Oh yeah. >> Listen, I have to leave everybody. Nice to see you. Um, >> I guess I'm we're done effectively, right? >> Just one more. How about 13? >> 13 is not us.
>> No, it's not 11. >> After 11, two more minutes for you. Big money. >> All right. Take care. >> This one's kind of easy. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Pay a bill.
>> Pay a bill. We got to pay. It's actually two bills, but >> two bills. My goodness. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Not being charged penalty interest on them. Comcast likes to do that. >> No, no, no, no. >> In the banking business, >> what it was was I didn't realize that the plan had changed and I only pay the amount that's, you know, so I was
looking at it going, "Wait a minute. Why am I >> And then I let it go too long. So, I didn't pay it out of last year. So, now I have to pay this year's tax." >> All right. Well, our our our free cash was overstated. I make a motion to recommend for
approval article 11 as presented. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I would love not to pick compass but second. >> All in favor? >> I >> All right. Yes. Sorry I had that in
article 13 but >> All right. Finance committee. >> You guys are not. >> I make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Thank you. Thank you. Everybody leave if you'd like to stay. Thank you. for helping make. >> Thank you, finance committ. Yes, thank you. >> Welcome.
>> Okay, we are moving on to Wait, did you adjourn your meeting? Did I just Okay. Sorry. >> Um All right. To see if the town will vote to appropriate or reserve for later appropriation monies from the community preservation funds or take any action relative there too. $69,000 for use by
the Conway Cemetery Association for removal of overgrown trees that are threatening ancient gravestones in the oldest part of historic Howland Cemetery submitted by the historic by the community preservation committee. >> Um for them to save those.
>> Yes. I'm going to make a motion that we um support this one. I'll >> second. All in >> favor? 59. That's what those funds are for. >> Exactly. >> Um, okay. Article 13. See if the town will vote to approve the grant match and
administration account to include all expenses necessary for the application and administration of grants applied for by the town or to take any action relative thereto. Baret, can you explain this fund? I know you explained it to me before, but >> yes. Basically, the this fund is already
in existence, but when it was created and it just lives under the 10 administration line, it sits there. I think there's 13,500 in it right now. Um, but the language of it
only allowed it to be used for a grant match or the administration of the grant. If the board wishes to do something say with Jolino about it would need to advance some money for um design engineering >> in order to apply
>> in order to apply for the grants. >> So and anyway so you know I ran this by both town and county council to see what was the best language to allow the most >> flexibility >> flexibility in there. Yeah. So if
something else comes up, I don't have to do this again. Right. >> It's not like it's a huge amount of money that I have. So, you know, it's only for anything we need to get done in order to. >> Okay. All right. I'm going to make a motion that we support article 13 as read. >> Second.
>> All in favor? >> I. and article 14 to see if the town will vote to amend its general bylaws to add the language as follows with subsequent sections renumbered or take any action relative there too. So, this just um amends
section six of the town bylaw to say that as soon as the town reports are received from the printer, the select board shall cause them to be posted on the website with print copies available at town hall, town offices, field memorial library, Conway transportation, Conway transport station, and the post office or mailed upon request. So,
>> save the trees >> basic. Yeah. And and money. We've been spending what do you say $3,000 annually on mailing the town reports >> and we printing and mailing >> printing and mailing and we know they go into the recycling bin at the transfer station. >> So that's going to save us $3,000 a
year. So I'm going to uh make a motion to support this article. >> So second favor I >> I >> Okay. All right. >> So that is the warrant. >> We close it. >> Well, >> you already did close it. Never mind. I'm sorry. >> You closed it. But if you get that's the
back page that you all can sign >> and then I'll redo the front page with all the votes. >> Can sit up here too if you'd like. >> I was just sleeping. >> Okay. Thank you for your patience.
>> Okay. Um, so since we have Robin Urkus here with us, I'm going to skip straight to new business discussion and vote on change of grant director for Life Path Senior Services Grants. >> That says it. >> Are you wanting to be the grant director?
>> What I'd like to do is change the home repair part and go to coirectors Jody. >> Okay. And they're both >> Willington. Okay. >> Absolutely. And Jody has stepped it up this year. >> Yeah,
>> she sounds so much. >> I know. She's got >> And there was one other thing that I just wanted back on because >> let's vote for the first one. >> Oh yeah. Okay. So, um I'm going to make a motion that we uh appoint Jodie Lai
and Tilda Hunting as co-directors uh grant directors for the life path senior senior services grant the home repair portion of it. >> Governor second favor >> I I >> Great. Thank you. And I don't know if this requires a vote as a friend of a
library. They wanted to move the food distribution over here for the winter. >> Is that okay? because we need >> more open, >> right? >> It's more accessible. >> It's less dangerous for people going out
back, etc. And probably >> uh less embarrassing for the people who would be picking up, >> right? >> Um I just thought we should have select board approval to put it in here. And then I did mention to them um I don't
know if you want me to run by any um advertising of the fact that we have it here through you before it's up to you. >> Oh, the other PDC will only be being unperishable stuff because we're not
going to get involved with >> Yeah, >> I think it's fine to have it here. I mean, I assume >> I totally agree. >> Like Lori doesn't have objections. >> No, I spoke with her about it today. We talked about maybe tucking it under the stairs. I don't know. We'll we can >> figure it out. >> We can figure it out.
>> Um Shelving is nailed to the wall. Maybe >> the shelving. >> It's wrapped in plastic. >> Oh, that that's I think it's somebody else's. That's gone upstairs. It's not. Yeah, >> but then we could use that space to set. >> Well, yeah, except there's a heater there.
>> So, yeah, I I went through it with Lori today. >> You don't want to serve warm food. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. Stay warm. >> That wind was insane,
>> wasn't it? >> Crazy. >> And we had random branches falling. >> Yeah. >> On cars and things. >> Exactly. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Rob. >> All right. Thank you. >> Um, okay. Let's go back to meetings attended by board members.
>> I did not have any. I have a joint school committee meeting tomorrow night that I can't be at because I have a work function, but I need to bring back a report from other committee members. >> No real meetings, but I have been working with Chief Baker on um his
retirement. >> Um I had a advisory board meeting last week that I unfortunately had to miss, but I was supposed to be there. I wasn't. Um I don't know that we have anyone here for public comments. Um,
okay. Items not anticipated 48 hours in advance. >> Courtney. >> Oh, Courtney. Sorry. Um, sorry. That's why new business. Um, still under new business. Um, so motion to appoint Courtney Gilligan to the Conservation Commission for a term ending 6:30
27. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. It's a great learning committee. >> Yeah. >> Having served nine years. And thank you, Courtney Gilligan, for your service to the town.
>> Um, okay. So, items not anticipated. Uh, Chief Bates had a grant application that he would like to submit tomorrow morning for >> Well, no, he submitted it. >> Oh, he submitted it. He submitted it. He wants to apply for it. >> He wants to apply for it, right? He submitted the his request to Veronique, but he wants to submit the grant
application tomorrow morning. So this would be um to purchase cameras, software brackets, computers for storage. Basically a body camera system for our law enforcement off law enforcement officers. So body warn cameras. >> No match grant.
>> No. Um so it's would be $33,594. No matches required. Um and the impact to the town says it will only benefit the town. >> Yeah. And there's certain other things that this I should not use the word trigger, but
can't think of another word. Um, it's not just the body cam cams. It has something else to do with armor as well. I talked to Don about it a while back, but it's a no match grant. So, I'll make a motion
to uh vote for um acceptance authorization uh for Chief Bates to apply for the grant. Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Okay. Town administrator update. >> I didn't even print mine out. >> It was fairly straight. Yes, it was
short, straightforward. Veric's been very busy with meeting all the right people >> in all the right places. >> All the right things. >> Um, okay. Select board member comments and concerns. >> Oh boy. >> Take it away. I'm very excited about the
pumper truck. >> Well, we can't really. That's not really done yet. >> Oh, yeah. Okay. >> We might have a story for you hopefully, but not yet. >> Okay. >> Um, everybody knows how
irritated I get with litter. >> So irritated, especially in this town. It's beautiful town. I I just wanted to make sure that it you know there are towns out there that are no litter towns where any offense even
the first one is at the maximum fine. I would like to talk to the health board or board of health and um our police chief about us being a no littering community. Um,
and I do think that we need to ask that I know we already have a bunch of posters and stuff up at the transfer station, but I still feel a lot of it is because people are not covering their recyclables or mainly the recyclables
when they take them to the transfer station and open pickup trucks. >> I think it's cuz people drive around town drinking and throw their things out the window is I think the biggest offenders. >> Well, certain >> blowing off your truck. I'm like, uh, that's a once in a blue moon. >> I have seen it. I've seen it. I I'm
saying it, but >> and of course when like you can't help it, right? Bottles, cans, >> right? Like people have their stuff outside, >> especially when they're lined up in a row at the side of I mean that is very deliberate. That's not >> I see that all the time. >> I've seen someone very um like actively
deliberately arranging litter. >> Yeah, that's very weird. >> Well, I mean, I see the litter arranged. I've not seen the I mean, so I don't know if you have like a motion sensor camera like in front of your house or if there's any places because there are there are spots on 116 that I'm like my god like we could just get a license
>> right on the hill up to the bank, >> right? Yeah. It's like like that hole in front of um >> it's like Oscar the Johnny Apple Seed type of hybrid. >> That's McDonald's, too. >> They have the perfectly kept lawn. >> Yeah. a beautifully new driveway and
there's usually, you know, three vodka bottles and everything. >> Well, I wonder if they would be >> we might just approach them and ask them like would they be willing to put up like a I'd love like my trail cam for a couple weeks, >> something to stop it. Like if it's if it's a real if it's some if it's a few
bad apples that are doing it, I would like to find out who those bad apples are and at least warn them that we will present tickets to them. So, do you know what the like are towns at Liberty to create to make up their own maximum fine or there's >> No, it's by state. All right. So, what
is that like $1,000 or something? >> 1,500 I believe. >> Okay. >> But we could I suppose say that like that's you're getting that your first defense. >> I think the board of health is usually in charge of setting the fines for, but I'd have to double check. >> Pretty sure it's health.
>> Yeah. >> But but but we I guess that's my question. certainly request that the board of health. >> Yeah. I just want Yeah. I just want to like >> I want the dialogue to be out there. >> Oh, I agree.
>> We're seeing litter. >> It's not acceptable. >> Yeah. >> If we find out you're a litter, you're going to be fined at >> and it's on all our major road. It's 116. It's Shelurn Falls Road. It's
Weightley Road. And it's like every coming and going into town just winging their which is it also to me is concerning that >> cuz it's mostly alcohol bottles that people are driving around drinking that
much as they're driving around. It's just frightening actually. >> But it's one thing to have a party in the woods although clean up >> but you know but you're >> Yeah. Just clearly so >> I don't know. We need like a vote or
anything to ask the health that >> No, I mean I think No, I don't think so. I think we can just go with them. >> Okay. >> All right. I will do that. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um
announcements. Oh, we got a um a email or sorry, we got a a thank you card from one of the recipients of the Germaine scholarship. Um, it was been a long time since I believe this. >> Somebody raised that right. Yes, >> look at that penmanship. >> Um, announcements. Just a reminder that
we have special town meeting December 6th at the grammar school at 10:00 a.m. and we hope to be out of there. >> Oh god, that's not there. >> When's our craft fair? >> No, we ran this. No, we Oh god, we ran this by Kristen. They usually do that on Sundays. I think the craft fair.
>> Oh, because their sign just went out today. >> Yeah. Yeah, we because we we had we pic we went through like three different dates before we landed on this one. So, go 99.9%. >> I know that um uh Chris and Laura both know because Yeah.
>> Yeah. When we changed the date, I didn't realize they had told you. So, >> but Okay. So, before that, >> of course, it would be Sage. >> Our next >> such a great kid. >> Yeah. Um, next meeting December 1st, 2025. Um,
>> right before special town, >> right before special town meeting. Um, so with that, I make a motion to adjurnn. Second. All >> in favor? All right. All right.