regular meeting of the Cook County Grammar EDA to order at 4 PM present are myself Commissioners Mills Benson Shackleton Hedstrom Eie
Gudiche all right absent uh is uh Commissioner Anderson so first item is uh approval of the agenda and there has been an update made to the verbiage of item 5e we've added Northshore Federal Credit
Union to resolution 2025-15 uh but with that revision is there a motion to approve the March 20 March 18th 2025 agenda so move and seconded by second great thank you all
those in favor i I I opposed motion carries all right next up approval of meeting minutes of the February 18th 2025 meeting uh these uh minutes were provided in the meeting
packet and if there's no discussion or changes is there a motion to approve the February 18th 2020 the motion to adjourn does need a second on the February meetings i mean thank you Harry that's not a problem but
anyway good good okay motion motion to approve support thank you appreciate that any discussion all those in favor signify by saying I i opposed motion carries all right review of EDA
financials uh the February 2025 balance sheet and bill approval status were provided in the EDA meeting packet uh the EDA also received hard copies of the balance sheet as of February the 28th 2025 for Superior
National Golf Course and I'd like to turn it over to Commissioner Shackleton to provide any insight or comments sure uh the EDA balance sheet uh shows cash on hand of 235 currently in the bank account with another 31 in the checking account so
it's a healthy position compared to last year last year we had another couple hundred,000 but we since have granted um Gunflint View that money so it's comparable to where we were last year uh some of the balance sheet numbers uh
have not been updated since uh the state audit so like uh landill for sale values and do the city those numbers will be adjusted soon but everything else is in line any questions on the EDA financials
how long will we hold a note to gun view i think that was a couple years is what they can pay us back sooner but I think the they're owed us in a couple years [Applause] any other comments
move to accept and forward to audit okay and then as far as the Superior National Golf Course is concerned uh the cash position is again healthy as compared to previous years um the sale you know the the pro shop
beverage and food has seen a significant bump up from previous years so it's it's doing as intended it doesn't pay the bills you know it's still negative cash flow but it's better than it has been in the past so I think there's some traction there so but as far as the cash
position is it's it's similar to last year it's healthy so any questions or other comments regarding Superior Nationals financials is there a motion to send to audit order so move thank
you anything else Commissioner Shackleton no I had nothing else okay thank you very much all right at this point in the meeting as we do we'd like to open up the floor to public comments if anyone wishes to approach just kindly state your your
name and address and if you could keep your comments to five minutes that would be much appreciated i'll make this uh you know quick i'm Bruce Martinsson chair of the Schwarter Township Board the uh uh Shorter Township board requested that I come just to uh make a
comment on the request for proposals one request is that and page two of the document says proposals will be reviewed and ranked by the EDA's Tacate Harbor Committee the township board request one that they
also be a representative from Minnesota Power on the committee and a representative from Shorter Township minnesota Power has appointed uh a regional development representative that works for elite Minnesota Power Michael
Shenrock if I pronounced it in the right but that's our recommendation that's all great thank you Bruce any other comments from the public okay all right seeing none we'll
move on in the U agenda to our resolutions for approval and the first one is resolution 2025-8 approving the revised employment agreement for Garrett Ecman for services at Superior National Golf Course at
Looten in 2025 uh the board might recall in uh January we approved the new employment agreements for all of the full-time staff at the golf course in February we revisited uh Garrett's uh employment
agreement there were some discrepancies on on title that have uh subsequently been corrected it's in page 18 rather 8 through 16 in the packet if you wish to look at that that we're resubmitting this for your approval
is there a uh I'll I'll move the approval of this resolution thank you second second any discussion or questions on this okay all those in favor i I opposed thank you
carries all right next up resolution 2025-12 approving amendments to the declaration of covenants conditions and restrictions and uh its first amendment at four direction dwellings a 16 unit
rental property in Luton uh again this is uh an item that we've discussed in in prior meetings we discussed it most recently in February and we agreed to go back to the HA for their input before then coming back to this body for
discussion and and approval uh so we did that and uh the HA was supportive of what was being um suggested we've got representation here from One Roof Community Housing uh Chad Dipman uh Chad
you have anything and Brook Tap oh thank you if uh there's anything further to to add or if there's any questions from the board for for one roof they're here and this will be page 17 through 30 in the packet
um perhaps Heidi between yourself and and one roof we could just maybe refresh the board on where we've been and what we're what we're considering mhm so there were um over the last couple EDA meetings um there were um a a list of
questions that the EDA had um for one roof community housing regarding this this whole latest request most of those answers were provided in um the executive director's memo that he submitted to the EDA um and then there
were some uh clarifications made in that memo um since or to answer some of those uh remaining EDA questions so that updated memo is in your packet um and then um of course um Chad and Brooke are
here to answer any if there are still any outstanding questions about the request um but basically uh their request is to amend um some restrictions in the existing um agreement between the
EDA and one roof community housing um I don't know if that's officially the who the agreement is with is it with one roof or a different is it quadpod okay so different but representing one row of community housing basically having a
difficult time um renting and one at least one of the the apartments in um in the uh 16 unit um building in Luton and so instead of having to come back to the EDA every time it's been an extended
period of time of a vacancy in that apartment that's why this request was made so that um in the future there's more flexibility for uh one roof community housing to um go ahead and get
that that unit or units filled does that simplify things uh three months of vacancy is my understanding is that right yeah three continuous ones I clear yeah the only question and this is just my
uh ignorance from from the operations or maybe the history is just uh just the term resort versus general unit just if what does that mean yeah mostly that means that resorts hold
leases to some of the units okay um and then they rent them to their employees gotcha and then the general unit is not the lease isn't held by a resort and so thank you is that still in place i know they guaranteed Oh okay yeah all right
yeah half of the units are still leased by resorts right i know that was a a big thing when we built those that they u basically 100% occupancy when they started out because the resorts uh pledging that I didn't realize that was
still going so good works well for them and you know keeps people in there great any other questions okay i yeah just as a comment I I I think this makes a lot of sense and I'm sorry for the vacancy and yeah it is a
difficult uh kind of balance to tight tight line to walk there so um and appreciate your patience with us getting getting a grip on that too it's very reasonable okay well with that is there a motion to approve resolution 2025-12 [Music]
make a motion to approve resolution 2025-12 thank you second all right all those in favor oh I'm sorry any other discussion or nope okay all those in favor signify by saying I i i opposed all right motion
carries thank you very much thank you thank you thanks for coming yeah it's a long drive and hopefully can make it worth a while for sure okay okay taking us to resolution 2025-13 approving the Tachinite Harbor
strategic plan request for proposal document the uh Takenite Harbor Committee as I understand it met on March the 6 and prepared this I think terrific package dave Mills do you wish to add any background yeah there's um
uh well just just first off I want to recognize a discrepancy that um uh our our subcommittee was was um recognizing here with the the timing of things there was just some discussion around um well
before our our timeline overall and then we also discussed in in our subcommittee just about how long should this RFP be excuse me be out there um and then how long should we give ourselves to review it and so um the the the one concern is
just the the April 4th timing and uh the the committee talked about um 30 days from when we get it out there um uh I have a memory of discussing just uh concerns of things being out there too long and that firms are usually kind of
ready to ready to jump on on this type of opportunity but that may not be the case and I don't have enough perspective to know if you know is 30 days too long is two weeks too short or any of that so um but the committee was overall was
feeling that it the 30 days is is the way to go um so I don't know if the board wanted to give input there or Tracy if you wanted or mayor Benson if you wanted to give any further context with the the time well part of it was you know even at in having the
conversation we didn't get hadn't yet gotten to our final decision like should this come back in front of the board like how soon does this come back well if we're waiting till a board meeting which we should and we did then that would push it even longer so then we said we don't know what that date should
be so let's set a time you know if it's 30 days 21 days whatever and then you could adjust the final date based on when you were able to get it out the door as opposed to a fixed date that way and you know the the whole point of this
is to maybe broaden the reach of who we want to see this or a different so anyways that's how it was and um that rather than sit here and make corrections through your whole document it was like can you just readjust when we know what the right date should be
sure and then set it out and yeah I don't know i couldn't even remember it was 30 you know whatever the time span is it would just reset the date yeah okay so there so there was that and then to address um Supervisor Martin or Chair Martinson's um concern about inclusion
of of Minnesota Power and um Shorter Township and we talked about that a little bit and and my memory was the conversation went around with if if the EDA is wholly responsible for this grant then the EDA should be making those decisions but we don't want to exclude
key partners in the process and it's just when is it going to be the best time for that inclusion sooner rather than later or if the accountability falls on the EDA then is it just the EDA call and so that's another the EDA certainly has uh authority and ability
to expand committees and that would be my recommendation is uh expand the committee by two having a representative Minnesota power and shorter township and I think that ought to be in the document because that's I mean they're our partners I mean that that's Mhm i mean
it uh it not that you wouldn't not that we wouldn't include them but I mean I think it's really good to have that written in the document myself and this is kind of the beginning and so to have partners on board from the beginning it makes sense and I could see I mean our
discussion went kind of all ways and so um well I would propose that amendment to this uh well I then I'm oopsie I may have misheard Bruce right now I thought his request was just in relation to the RFP Could they be part of the decision-making process for that piece
not totally on our small subcommittee because there will be a larger committee of they're number one on the list it's their property we don't even know where we can go with this right so that's a given and of course shorter town halls well but I guess I just misunderstood the ask i
thought it was just in making the decision for the RFP could they be at the table and that makes total sense to me to have especially Minnesota Power at the table for that but the larger group you know this subcommittee is just a little subcommittee and then after that
it springs to life and I don't so I think the the request there is to some extent irrelevant because of course they're going to be at the table the very nature of the whole project is community involvement so Okay yeah okay fair so that would be my desire then too
so having the um having our partners at the table for the RFP evaluation exactly yeah okay it won't be a hindrance i mean it maybe being sent out i'm sorry not not the RFP being sent out right that's going to
happen of the proposal back in sure i mean more eyes are better than if you were in my mind yeah um but after that this is you know this subcommittee was just a getting us started getting sure this will be a a
bigger committee anticipated yeah that's why we're doing this is to get and identify all our stakeholders all our issue you know whatever and then it'll spring from there perfect yeah there may be instances down the road where our subcommittee does need to huddle up
again or whatever too so and I mean I easily could imagine our partners uh being a part of that too especially Schroeder Township and Minnesota Power just because they're such key stakeholders there so regarding timing
I'm not sure I've got a firm position between two weeks and four weeks that feels to me like the right range and this would be at the one end of that range so I don't have any issue there um of course it's we're past March the 7th so we'll have to Tracy's point to kind
of reset that do we have a list of recipients of this RFP i I don't or the I guess the committee doesn't how do we know who to send this to there is there's not an official list of
recipients yet but I already have many um many firms who have heard rumblings that this is coming out that have already reached out and said "Please send it to us." So there'll be a as far as I I know there'll be an extensive
list but it it it will be um I I plan to compile this official list and then send it to the the committee mhm and then just see if there's any that are missing or whatever and then then just send it to those people i would Yeah I would
even Well this is just me talking i would even just send it out i mean I don't know that the committee is going to have much perspective on contractor consultants or any of that but I I just assumed your professional network would be a the best avenue in one shape or
form another idea would be to simply post the RFP on the website and then direct people there or promote you know this is there i think that's you know that's the right thing in the digital age so uh so this RP timeline would just
reset with with uh kind of the same amount of time in between but just reset from the date that we post this then okay i think is that what we meant so we Yeah if if the subcommittee is comfortable with the what appears to be
one week to do the scoring and selection oh just Yeah so you got 20 days of it being out there for people to respond and then you got given yourselves about a week to sort through is that of where we're at right now you
want two weeks well my only the only thing would caution on that is just if we've got a broader group we have to get to the table can we get them within a week you know knowing people's calendar especially when we're looking at outside groups but short of that I mean l have a
little flexibility that we realize if we say the 20th plus another 10 days so you're looking at uh April 10th uh for due date and then maybe Well okay the soonest this might go out is what
friday friday okay so let's just say three weeks for somebody to respond whatever date that lies at great and then we look and see what we've got and let's give us a week and if we run over because we just can't schedule it but we're good how's that sound right and I
could add some verbiage in here you know to the EDA's discretion to to update timelines or something you know so that covers the EDA's yep it might take 10 days to get everybody together yeah and then just keep in contact with you know
because what you know there could be a thing where where an excellent proposal um is is comes and requests well I need another another day and so that would give flexibility
to and but yet fair to the others who submitted on time just saying you know this is our goal or the EDA's goal is is to to you know choose the most highly ranked proposal or something just put in a little line we
do what we want right uh dash David Mills [Music] before that to Well is there like a site that you would expect people who are you know
consultants or man you know that we would expect for them to be looking or agencies that we we'd notify she'd notify kind of I think there's ways to broadly communicate that this RFP is out there go look here i've seen RFPs posted
on um the Economic Development Association of Minnesota site so those sorts of professional organizations will you know communities will post their RFPs so there's a variety yeah okay so I kind of thought something like that to Okay
okay um my u additional request as it relates to to this activity is that the that the respondents to the RFP include a robust timeline not to say that the shortest one is the best one but that
they have a clear understanding of how they intend to actually plan their work and so it's not if I could say based on when the money runs out but rather but rather uh you know a robust timeline that they can hold to
[Music] um so we don't we don't speak to when their work gets done here um I don't think we've given them a deadline for when the final uh work is to be completed but I would like to see
that as part of their yeah I would too is original timeline although awfully tight was at least a format to we have some expectation that having this work done in some um organized manner and not too long
yeah I'm I mean they should propose a timeline again that's my point yes I don't know enough to propose my own learned that lesson in the last meeting um but I think that they as the experts in that space should should map out their
work and have that well and I would say then the real thing is make your timeline will be set by have you managed to identify all the issues have you brought forward all the stakeholders you know have we some of that will answer itself it's I think
it'll weigh itself but that isn't I think we'd be short changed ourselves if we put too much you know I know what you mean you don't want it to just make We got to find that because there that to me is the main thing of what we're trying to
achieve at this point we don't own anything we can't do anything we've got to figure out what's going on we got to get updates from these organizations our info is a couple years old is it already 2023 you know I mean there's a lot of
stuff we need to learn about so but I get your point we don't want even if it was a G chart that was no more than no more detailed than quarters I would feel more if we have them propose a timeline yeah and then once we hire somebody or
get down to that then we can negotiate that and say six years no we're not going to give you six years but you know sort of thing right i can't imagine anyone tackling a project saying that ahead of time if they're doing proper
project management they know better how long you mean right because they just know it's one thing if you have to build to a set deadline like a building that has to be completed by a certain date but then you're the one also influencing if that's realistic or not so but I get
it we can't just go on forever yes i don't I don't know how to identify a timeline or determine the timeline i don't I don't have that type of experience and I can see the value of it right they should they should yes
yeah so if we just had something and you're asking for a timeline that's their job our direct okay so where would that go exactly here um um project scope oh well I I thought it could be in the
narrative request for proposed format including a narrative include a summary of the team's approach it seems to me that the high level timeline would be part of their approach okay possibly but yeah
okay that's easy y but really good work on on the RFP so I see ahead may I suggest um the uh some verbiage be added to the resolution text based on this discussion is
um with changes as discussed at this EDA meeting or something like that and then I'll make those changes i'm still waiting on a picture a really good picture from Minnesota Power to include um so little things like that
um would be great so I would I would move this resolution including as dis including the items as discussed at the board meeting i'll second great all those in favor i'm sorry sorry further
discussion ju just for to So we have clarity here yeah the things we discussed for changing is the dates within the proposal um the addition of the timeline and then small details like the and the Thank you yes and then the
addition of the selection okay perfect thank you any other discussion points before we move to Okay all those in favor i I second uh all those opposed rather all right motion carries
all right taking us to resolution 2025-14 approving business development fund grant agreement with Brit Malik LLC for a total amount not to exceed $1,000 and Heidi I think you've got some further background on this
um well this is uh the the EDA's uh grant review committee uh reviewed this application um and came back with additional questions and um after receiving the answers from the applicant um approved uh this application over the
course of a couple meetings and some email correspondents um so the grant committee um agreed to forward it on to you all today here at the regular EDA meeting um for considering this resolution typically the EDA would see a
um a grant agreement um at this meeting when approving um a new business development grant or fund grant um but the committee is is current the grant review committee is currently working on updating guidelines and um trying to
come up with a uniform grant agreement for moving forward etc so um I thought that um to get to keep things moving along if the EDA uh is is open to approving um this this grant and then I
would work uh with the grant review committee to to finalize the grant agreement document and then get that signed at a later date seems reasonable i should say what this grant is for uh
this this application is is is for um uh purchasing a a printer um and ink and paper for a small um uh a small business uh I believe in the summary of the
business I'm blanking at the moment um um like custom design it's art much more thorough description of what she's doing and a lot of things we give money to so impressed by what she's done here i'd like to make a motion to
approve resolution 2025-14 i'll second any other discussion all those in favor signify by saying I all those opposed motion passes we've done a lot of work in all this grant stuff just on the on the topic of the grant committee understand that the
committee might be looking for an alternate so I've volunteered myself if someone is recused and I need to step in happy to do that all right great okay okay then taking us to resolution
2025-15 approving the removal of Steve Serba and Teresa Bada Bada and the addition of Peter Clissold and Heidi Krampits as financial signitories on Cook County Grammar EDA and Superior National Golf Course at
Luden accounts at Luden accounts at Grammar State Bank that's a mouthful and Northshore Federal Credit Union i think that's self-explanatory is there a second okay any discussion last chance
all those in favor signify by saying I all those opposed seeing none motion carries sbdc report pete first time giving a report welcome good afternoon everyone good afternoon peter Mott with the Small Business
Development Center and uh I'm here to just report on our February activities uh we it was a very robust month we saw 33 clients uh and we met with several of them
multiple times throughout the month so what that means is they're meeting uh certain expectations of the first meeting and we're able to move on to phase two and phase three so um as many of you know I've been working with Pat
Capanero uh in the transition uh she'll be retiring at the end of the month and so we work together on these client um meetings and I've been learning a lot i I can tell you that um without going
into any de detail these clients typically fall into three buckets the bucket is the first bucket is the startup bucket it's the people just trying to get their business going we see about 50% of our clients fall into
this category um the second category is kind of business management these are folks that might need a little help with their spreadsheets or their quicken books or they need something help with their website um and so we have
expertise within the Small Business Development Center network to connect those people with those experts and to advance them to whatever they're trying to accomplish and so we saw several existing
businesses come to us in February to kind of sharpen some of their business practices and we're happy to help with that and the third bucket um is the business expansion bucket and so that's a bucket that typically involves
existing um community businesses that are looking to expand and so we are fortunate in February to work with each one of those groups and we hope to see several new businesses uh operating this summer in
Cook County um and just a couple of words on the transition um things seem to be going really fast we're already halfway through the month and I feel like there's still a lot to learn uh but Pat and I are working very closely um
she's not only showing me like how to do the business but she's also connecting me with the network of people that she knows to get that business done and I'm learning that she has a very big toolbox and so I'm trying to learn all
the tools that she has um and it's very impressive and I'm very excited and and hopefully she hasn't uh gotten sick of me yet cuz I I still need the couple of weeks we have
together that's what I have great so how do clients find you they come to us for a few different ways uh I'll give you some examples just from the last couple of weeks we get
referrals from people in the business community who have worked with us who say "Hey you know should try them." Or like the other day we knew of some um uh industry folks who were meeting they had
kind of an industry meeting and so we kind of invited ourselves to to attend and share information about the services we provide and surprisingly perhaps people just call up you know the Chamber of Commerce or the Visitors Bureau and
just say "How do I be a part of your your business community?" Yeah yeah so it's awesome and and of course anyone that comes to you who has that interest we would encourage you to send them right to us and and we'll take care of
them i receive um several calls a month as well um and refer them on to the SPDC yep does the SBDC have a presence on our EDA
website great there's another way okay could I make a comment please i would just say that a lot of paths lead to the small business development center when you're looking at sources of funding especially for the startup phase of a
business um a lot of them will point towards a small business center like this to help access that so whether it's from a bigger institute um or federal funding and state funding program a lot of them will divert you to your local business development center as the first
kind of stop in that journey um and that's just based on my experience from 2022 um starting our company from 3,000 miles away yep thank you any other comments or or questions
for Pete powerful thank you Pete thank you so much it's great to have you thank you okay a few discussion items uh the first is the conflict of interest policy and disclosure questionnaire uh I've come to
learn that this is an annual process and it's upon us uh Heidi included it in the packet uh so we've got a couple of options you can you can print it off and sign it and scan fax it drop it off at Heidi's office or you can stop down
sometime this week and sign it in person up to you okay i can pick them up as well um I I'm I'm here uh this week so let me know um I just wanted to add a couple things too so there's two
separate conflict of interest related documents the first is the actual policy and um that requires just uh your signature as an EDA commissioner and then the actual questionnaire gets into
more of um as commissioners any any sort of involvement in the community that would would be perceived or actual conflicts of interest um the form asks that you fill uh that describe those those items also uh with uh requires a
signature on the form and that is these forms are actually required by the through the annual audit process so that the auditor will ask for these forms every year so that's why you see them every year mhm
is this a document that was created for this EDA or is it one that I don't know like a template so to speak i'm not sure i'm assuming it's a template it's
template but then modified modified yeah i think the the one thing I see missing from it is acknowledging the receipt of confidential or sensitive financial information for grant applications
specifically um there is a in the guidelines for instance you know we can ask for a profit and loss statement balance sheet sensitive information that I think should be explicitly protected um at least acknowledging in this
document somewhere that as board members who process this when we're assessing grant applications that we will keep that confidential um and not disclose that outside of the workings of this board sure oh good idea
so would that be in the just in addition to the policy yeah I'm not sure where does that lie in conflict of interest it's certainly an issue that needs to be addressed but I'm not sure as a conflict of interest matter how does that relate
to a to this document yeah to to I struggled to fit find a place where I could say I think it might fit best here um it's a similar topic but yeah I agree it's not necessarily a uh or a standalone document would be I think I
think a standalone document would be more appropriate you know just something a single page that we acknowledge that we we do have access to this confidential information and we recognize it as confidential information that we should protect it you know it it hasn't been brought up before until Alex
brought it up yeah a few weeks ago grant view committee meeting so I think Well and that that makes me think of so so P&Ls and that sort of financial information um should not go in the EDA
packets because that is so that would make it public so some sort of verbiage in that new policy financial policy should be added to to clearly state that too so I'll have to look for a temp a
template for that confidentiality policy or something exactly well so is it okay if I I bring that to the board next month then a separate standalone has to review and sign and acknowledge that would be great is there some other larger document we already have that
talks about our roles and you know how it should be hand that we can put that into like you within that binder that you is there something there that talks about those kinds of things I don't think there's any mention in the bylaws I didn't see it either but I just meant
that we could fit it sure yeah document yeah that we could add the wording into that not that it was literally there an existing one okay I love amending bylaw ask because then we have public hearings good suggestion uh the next item is WTIP Northshore
Community Radio annual underwriting contract hiden um I was approached um by WTIP uh actually when I first arrived in this role um about four months ago um and then approached again um last month
um regarding the same topic um the EDA uh decided last year to not um not um extend this annual contract with WTIP as the EDA was preparing and
approving its budget so this this particular item I'm going to talk about was purposely left out of of the EDA's budget for this year so I just want to provide that as a history but the a recap of what this is is in the past the
EDA has had an annual contract with WTIP um the last one um in 2024 was an annual cost of $2,00080 or $2,080 and what that um provided the EDA
with was two messages a week on the radio basically stating um the mission of the EDA um so I can read to you what it was what it was said um this is what it was was said in the past on the radio the Cook County Grammar Economic
Development Authority whose mission is to diversify the economy create employment through retention and expansion of existing businesses and development of new businesses support the development of housing and increase the tax base on and then refers to the the the EDA website referring people to
the EDA website well I inquired act uh with WTIP could we um per the suggestion of former EDA president Steve Serba could we make this message this two messages per week dynamic could we change it up and advertise whatever we're working on
or if we're looking for input or um just just change these messages often um and WTIP said "Sure of course you just give us you know provide us with that updated info um so um if that's something that
the EDA wants to start up again this year um I believe there could be funds transferred from another fund in the EDA budget if the EDA wants to do that to start up right away um and then at that
time we would be provided with a contract to look at um I asked for a sample contract for this meeting which they the WITP said they don't do that they'll they'll give once we tell them you know we're interested then they'll
provide a sample or the contract for for approval so that's where we are with that um just trying to respond to WIP's um request um wanting input from the EDA
well I'm active in the station i I can't say I've got a financial conflict but I certainly have an emotional conflict um but being able to adjust these underwriting messages rather than that which sounds a little boilerplate to me would be able to go out and inform the
public of the availability of grants uh inform the public of the availability of of the SBDC resource at some point in the future maybe we've got a Tac Harbor survey on our website that we want to inform the public about so I think this
underwriting message it's not advertising can be used um to suit our purposes now I don't know what room exists in the budget to to do this because it wasn't captured but that's my thinking well the radio has always been
super flexible about that i can change a message anytime I want i mean it's never a problem being charged so that angle I think is how they've always operated and if if we see value add um outside of that yeah
i think the main thing is remembering to uh update to manage it sure or they'll just keep reading it yeah i I remember talking about this i don't remember why we decided to not include it um
it it was the issue was was it really economic activity budget related expenses is it really what we wanted to spend money on and that was the issue i I think the the former director had questions about the WTA sponsorship and
she also had questions about the chamber $6,000 oh yeah member so is is that the best way to spend two 6 $8,000 you know and so it I think that's the question and I think we as a board have to chew on that and
decide for ourselves is that the best way we want to spend two $8,000 a year I I could be swayed either way you know I but I think it's appropriate to ask the question for sure so I guess I mean the funds are there i mean we have Okay
you know we carried into the year $200,000 you know so I mean we're and we're going to we're going to receive another you know 495 this year and 200 of that will be another grant fund so you know from previous years we we have
the funding to you know sure do a WTIP or or chamber sponsored u membership as well so if we don't manage the the underwriting message to align with what we're trying to get across to the public at any given point in time then it might
just be 200 $2,000 we're lighting on fire but if we if we leverage it to the right message at the right time that's a different story thank you just as it relates to the grant review committee one of the things we discussed the last couple times we chatted was how to increase
applications and drive competition um and this would be a really great way to do that i don't think a lot of people are aware of this particular fund um and I could see as the only radio station in town a lot of people listen to it and it
might be a good way to increase applications and give us some sort of metric to see if it was worth it or not over the course of a year yeah you're right that one we could really measure because then you can say "How did you find out about that?" Right yeah yeah well we've got quite a few big things
coming up um you know new SBDC person new H person the sales for national uh you know your points about the grant program are are right on uh so I think it's probably good to keep our water
plus you know our support of local radios you know a part of it as well so that would be good and then you you we will um add on to that with the free media we get uh with the interviews after our
meetings which you know been on and off but you know one of the past uh administrations was very good at doing that every month after our meeting heidi went on on the radio not two weeks
ago all right good oh yeah and anytime we have something special we want to talk about they're always more than happy to have an interview at that point too so yeah I mean not that we shouldn't do this but I
just they're very receptive a lot i mean it is it is news and but yeah it's it's always helpful to have some skin in the game there too are we deciding are we disc discussing this or deciding to go to the next step
well who's in favor of doing the sponsorship or the underwriting yes they all are i mean well then then to move forward I would like to see that script really hammer home at what Alex is suggesting is that grants grants grants
we have this money out available you know please consider it talk about the SPDC and really try to bring in those applicants and people that activity that'd be awesome so so every month uh the the latest script would could be
provided in the with a EDA report or report to the EDA that way we'd be on top of it right we wouldn't forget about it and we can or whatever if there's something else that pops up just remember that we have that option to to
utilize it to to message because you do get busy and you forget forget the two things we that you know we talked about one of them we will talk about the other one or third one is uh uh the roll out of this TC harbor uh
that that you know that's coming soon yeah and then also the the sale of golf course because that'll be kind of an ongoing thing right yeah yeah it's better than just the mission statement right exactly yeah so specific well in in between you can do that but you know
having specific work that we're right doing right now I think is a good thing okay and if we're not telling our story someone will tell it for us exactly your own narrative well if you haven't heard a rumor by 10:00 in the morning you need to start one i mean that's kind of the
rule right howard come on noted uh okay uh speaking of Howard uh assisted living project yeah I this has
been a ever since I joined the EDA it's been a a hope and dream of mine is to try to incent assisted living into Grand Marray uh we've worked on it a lot uh something comes up and gets in the way of that it
has several times the the latest uh proposal we had was in 2019 and we got really close uh but then the developers kind of looked at well where are we going to staff how are we going to staff this where are they going to be well there's no housing well it just occurred
to me in the last couple months that you know wow we got a lot of new apartments coming in there's other housing projects you know I think um you know that barrier is going to kind of go away and maybe this is a good time to to look at
assisted living um I did through another connection had a conversation with a person in that in that business um we kind of talked for a while and and a week or so ago he he uh calls me up he said
"Well I'm on my way up there you want to have a cup of coffee?" So uh he came up we chatted uh I'd given him some materials that we had been developed back in 2019 i I haven't circled back around with them but I did tell them that uh
uh the EDA would would be a you know part and parcel of the project you know the last go around we had a piece of land that we were going to you know offer for a dollar uh we're always there to go to bat for infrastructure with IT RB or other grants you know we may have
some of our own money uh the last project we're teeing up to be uh the lead on on tiff financing for instance um and then you know it's always good for a developer to have boots on the ground you know somebody local to kind of help you know get through the local
planning zoning politics and all that and but you know we can't just go pick a developer you know we have to you know here goes back to an RFP so I um you know I think we should consider looking
at and sending out an RFP for uh assisted living project i think that's spot on we were so close and then the housing barrier just it just killed it so and yeah there is enough I think momentum and projects
happening where that I mean I guess I don't know how the finances of the caregivers versus the cost of the apartments will go but there there's options you know and so I think it's I think that's an excellent idea and I
mean the when did the RFP go out last time was that 2019 or it's been 18 or 19 18 yeah so don't have to reinvent it we can just revisit it and and update and and see what I think that group well that group may still be around but I
mean that they were they maybe have aged out i mean there was a couple guys that were investors in that and they were interested but I you know I think one of them was 70 at the time and then now he's older so I just had a question about I I'm new to the community right
and some of you a little older than I am howard you've been around for a while i'm curious about the the need i'm not saying that I don't like the idea but just the need i mean right now we know we have workforce housing issues right is
there a notable I know there really is an assistant resources living here but is there a need for it are people talking about it is there Well the the last and I don't know who funded it but uh maybe been the developers but uh there's an outfit called Wiffley Duth
they're they do a lot of different things i don't know if they're an accountant or who they are but they do a lot of different things and one of the things that they do is is analysis of the demographics and and all that around uh the need for assisted living so that
they they you know that's probably in our files they had done that back in 18 17 18 so um and I'm sure that would have to be refreshed there was a housing study done in No but this is separate from the housing study yeah the housing study
still addressed some of those issues is that part of that whole go team project that Well the go team was No the the assisted living was separate from the go team okay um but Whiffley did a specific study on the the need for assisted
living even in the strategic planning document we did last summer there was mention of assisted living assisted living needs you know the aging population and nowhere to go yeah if I was there I probably brought it up
yeah I think it's important just to kind of identify the spectrum of of needs right there's you know uh older people in their homes um then and then at a certain point um a decision can be made um that it's uh
it's a bit bit much space for them to to upkeep or or whatever and um and so then there can be uh senior housing or senior apartments and then there can be assisted living uh after that and then there's the care center which is there's a waiting list for that too so I think
part of the strategy was to uh build assisted living facilities that maybe has both senior housing as well as assisted living uh which could free up homes in the community and just kind of be part of all of that dynamic and so when we talk about workforce housing
which we really emphasize I often also hear we really need senior housing because you know 30% of our population is over the age of 65 assisted living is not a skilled nursing facility i mean that's that's what the care center is and it's a different level you know
assisted living have to have one registered nurse you know on employee but the rest of the staff can be um lower level caregivers you might say the workforce basically yeah and then there's just opportunity as well in
those um buildings for say a child care center you know um there's just a lot of different dynamics that that that might that might work with that so I'm glad that that came to mind and I had thought of that for Yeah a couple years here didn't Didn't we own land last time yeah
and I did have a discuss we Yeah we gave it away to the H however at the last meeting the H did talk about there was the the land that we business park across just east of the law enforcement center on 12 mhm and
they unbeknownst to me they uh kind of took action to reserve that property for assisted living so I think we're sounds like the whole community is kind of on board with Okay let's let's refresh this
well I'm I would like to see the RFP could I make a suggestion that we work with the H on this so the EDA is not not only um drafting the RFP but we have help smart uh with the H director thank
you the first thing going that's very smart we have an injury now yeah totally i'm having lunch tomorrow with Yeah okay cool well let's get this on the EDA level you get your whatever you're the
key person and maybe by next meeting we could have a actual something to Okay well to what extent should the EDA be driving it right should it just I mean I really appreciate you bringing it up but it does sound like an HR race yeah but
it's economic development too i mean it's jobs i mean it's how many staff you put in one of those things got to be 20 you know it sounds to me like this is up their alley more than our alley but you know they have limited access to resources we have the resources more than than the HRE does so I could see it
the partnership should be there right but they definitely need to be Yeah yeah okay i just don't want it to take over Heidi's work right like hoping for focus on tack well golf course tac harbor um you know so there's some big oh she can
walk some things we got some balls in the for our basic business development yeah right clearing our plate hopefully of some larger issues and maybe we can get a focus y okay thank you want me to give the
golf course committee report uh in a moment I think there's more so item number eight committee and commissioner reports Actually I think we'll start with Commissioner Budache you want to discuss the grants
committee is that right oh sure um I guess like just a general overview as far as like the guideline kind of assessment and updates where now we're not overhauling but we're just updating right um was just one quick point after
about a year of implementation I think there have been some changes that have been or needs that have been identified right and I think just to keep it real simple um you know recognizing it's an incredible resource for one um as was
mentioned earlier just establishing consistency in the grant agreement so everybody that's being awarded money to purchase equipment has a a consistent a similar agreement just as someone
improving real estate would have a similar agreement right as far as terms responsibilities there's probably a little wiggle room depending on individual circumstances but looking back in time over the past year all of our there's not an agreement looks the
same um even for similar uh expenses or projects so tightening that up a little bit um consistency um we've talked a lot about identifying need how do you take an application from someone and identify
the need right for grant funds is that or how much of a role does that play in whether or not they are approved or recommended for consideration u so we talked about that um and I think uh at the end of the day
um the three of us have I think aligned on a lot of these and figuring out how to incorporate into the existing document is is just the time consuming kind of part of this right the challenge does that seem accurate Mark yeah I think so it's going to take a few more
weeks of but series on vacation too so right now it's kind of a we're in pause moment but I think uh in a few more weeks we should have something that is near finished you know so and then one more just point is just as far as like committee work subcommittee work whatever you want to call it i
think one of the things that gets popped in my head is just the organization of how these subcommittees work and the I think the grant review committee especially because it receives applications on a rolling basis we'll get an email saying hey we've got an
application and then a couple days later we got another one right is that it probably might help everybody's role in the committee and the directors if there was perhaps a committee chairperson it's not I think it's pretty common in other
board type or committee situations with a subcommittee identified or created to handle a particular task is there's just a member on that board that can organize the correspondence can organize the process so when an application is received the committee can activate
follow a couple steps to get this thing taken care of without taking up the resources of scheduling uh correspondence things like that from the director so that was just one more kind of thought it might not be applicable to every committee but I think especially because the grant review committee is
always working on something um it might be helpful to have a little bit of just like I don't know a a lower level of leadership just in that that that topic i know when I worked on that committee we tended to reach a consensus I think
every time and then take something forward and perhaps that won't always be the case perhaps a vote might be necessary from time to time within the committee um but do you think that amongst yourselves you can land on that on that head that leader within the Yeah
it might maybe the leader is a a wrong word maybe it's just an organizational role honestly is just making sure people are responding to correspondence and collecting everybody's ideas you know often times the applicant might be contacted again for clarification or to
and you know correct something on their application or something that's missing and I think it sometimes you know K's getting hit from all directions like I got a question I need this I need that just to streamline the process because right now it's it's it's emails and
meetings and you know kind of reactionary almost that's it's more of just an organizational I think yeah but isn't that the director's role i think that was the thing that was a question too is do I I attend I every
subcommittee meeting there's six subcommittees some meet all the time some don't should I be scheduling those meetings for the committee like just which what should I be doing which shouldn't I be doing type thing um an example just recently is that I
was unable to attend you know half of a meeting of one of their latest meetings i I couldn't be at the last half and so someone took over doing minutes or notes you know stuff like that and how just how all that organizational stuff works
or how it should work I guess is the question when I when I started on the board and so when I started in the grant committee uh Teresa did have a role but that
seemed to me Mark to maybe drift off into the distance a little bit and the committee was doing it i mean she'd coordinate the the scheduling you know so she'd you know make sure we're all meeting when when can we meet is it Friday at 1 is it Tuesday at 3 whatever
it is she she'd make that happen she was the point person that organized that and then the grant committee got together and and they met up teresa wasn't usually involved in those meetings which something that she did i can certainly
tell you as it relates to the to the golf committee we are selfmanaged and we we don't need any sort of administrative help but the dynamic is certainly different from the from the grand committee because there's a there's a lot happening over there well I think for I mean for me it's it feels like you
know an application comes in I think we owe it to them to to get back to them as quickly as possible right and to evaluate their application sometimes you know because of scheduling conflicts i'm I'm busy alex is busy siri's in Florida right now so I mean so there's an issue
what can we all get on top of this how quickly can we do it if we do do it let's say it takes five days before us to like come together and then well there's maybe that we have some questions now and so then there's another you got to contact the applicant and get back and now we have to get together again so sometimes you know
what you hope to be done and you know one meeting takes you know now you're into the the next month next month before you can really address something so um could that be done more efficiently i I'd like to like to see it happen more efficiently but I don't know
what what needs to happen to make that happen so what I was thinking you were going to say was um you know you get an application in and then two days later you get another application in so you're kind of meeting twice i just thought you were going to say should we just have uh
a regularly scheduled like okay there's applications coming in until this and now we do a batch and then you do that again but to your point it's not as responsive we we talked about this in the grant the review committee do do we want to have deadlines for applications do we want or instead of roll we're
rolling now but you know the ideas in the past has come up too last year when we talked about this uh it came up again do we want to have deadlines you know and that would be the one of the benefits of having a deadline you know get all your applications in by February 28th we review them in March and we'll
let you know by April and then we do another one in June and we do another one in September i mean so there is but they're usually not a surprise i mean some you know if there's application they're usually working with either the small SBDC or with Heidi or you know there's some preparatory work
and some back and forth before it gets to a grant well you know we're not always getting that i mean I I know some they're in the pipeline you know but when they actually come we don't know you know are they ready is it this week is it next week and then maybe they disappear and then they reappear two
months later with I mean so I'm not sure well I'm just suggesting if you did have that um standing date you know that maybe could drive those those uh applications to that point as well and the standing dates if you go down
that road could be on the on the website for applicants to see as they're downloading the documentation well here are my here are my due dates and here's my answer date deadlines are always good if you wanted
to do a batch like that but my only point is is I think the committee work could be a little more organized and often times it's just assigning delegating that organizational role to one person and it's not necessarily a power position or anything it's just the
person making sure all the players are showing up and and have all the information they need and then communicating appropriately to the director and ultimately the board yeah figure out how you want to do it but I get it if in your solution part of that is what
you need from Heidi i think that's entirely yeah we'll have to I mean I I I would like to continue the conversation and then and then connect with Heidi and let's see what makes sense for her and for us and then right you identify those
needs and then I make a decision so well I've got a feel for how much time that particular committee takes up so again thank you for your work on that can we imagine i think the one last I've forgot about this um but the last piece of this puzzle this kind of reassessment of the
program is there isn't necessarily strict scoring or assessment criteria for individual applications so in an effort to minimize perhaps a bias from a committee
member we are establishing a very simple I would say scoring rubric that assigns values to different elements of the application that are important and align with the program guidelines so that's also coming down the line it's taken a
little bit of work but I think that will help us in our small community uh look at applications um from an objective point of view sure and I presume that this fine-tuning isn't throwing out the direction already established it's just
building on it it's building It's building on it yep absolutely again thank you uh and it sounds like I'm going to be exposed to the the current application in short order perhaps okay thank you
Commissioner Hstrom health Committee yeah and you know just to clarify you know we're we're um deliberately kind of keeping Heidi out of that because you know we we know the golf we hope the golf course is going away we don't want to have that
obligating her so we've been uh working with uh Frank uh from Northco um and have a really really close to having the final document ready we've got uh back and forth with Fred Dutter our our
attorney there's some uh language about um right of first refusal that we're kind of working through yeah and and the document that I'm sorry to interrupt the document Howard's referring to it's an offering memorandum so think of it as the as the package that would be exposed
to potential buyers that learn about what this is i mean it it's so it's such a nice document you think gee I should buy this thing links so anyway uh we're really close to that hope in the next day or
two that will go live it'll be very shortly so that then things really start so that's uh kind of update on that i don't think there's any more uh for us at this point it's just no listing agreement was executed with North Co and
then this is the next big deliverable is that offering memorandum clarification on on some of these legacy agreements that were in place since 98 or something like that since uh Nelson Bob Nelson gave the golf course
away kind of kept some stuff uh you know they weren't sure that the golf course was going to make it so there's some of those are writed you know repurchase and things like that but you know we just need to be deliberate about telling the the potential buyers about that so
that's that's really close to any other committees we've heard of Ary from Tonight obviously yeah there was something else I wanted to share about that um but I lost it it was only like It was only 10 minutes ago that I had it you
find it harbor uh okay you get anything Tracy you'll jog my memory oh Heidi director report um so it's 5:15 so I'll make this as quick as possible
um Peter Clissold President Peter Clissold the EDA that one yes he wanted me to do another quick overview um of open meeting law just some reminders so I'll I'll I'll do this again next month
but just a reminder um and not that this is has been a problem with the EDA in the past but just for future um with emails um if if if you need to respond to an email uh don't reply all because
then that triggers open meeting law and so all that discussion is becomes public and I mean everything is public really but um just don't reply all just reply to one person or less um another another
thing is you know the reason why the ED the six EDA subcommittees have three people on them is because if it's more than three people uh if it's four then that will would constitute a quorum of the EDA which then we would have to post
a special meeting notice to hold those those committee meetings etc so there's all those reasons for everything and that that the EDA does um with regards to complying with open meeting law so just just a few reminders on open
meeting law um the next uh the next two questions or updates are uh regarding um Cedar Grove Business Park um I have been gathering input from um the property
owners um business people in the park about a uh a entrance sign a permanent entrance sign for the park um and if you remember back in December I had asked uh the EDA is it okay if I you know check
on into this and get quotes stuff like that you said yes um so it's it's taken a while to get back to this project but it started again so I've uh luckily been able to uh receive input from 14 of the
property owners um still have six to go uh or so that I haven't gotten a hold of yet but so far there are um seven property owners that want to have a name plate the basically back up the idea would have would be a entrance sign with
name plates for businesses um in the park and so so far there are seven um business people that want name plates there are six that don't some do some don't um and so after we we gauge how
many name plants are wanted then we'd be able to go out and get quotes and uh bring those quotes back to the EDA the the the hope is by your next meeting in April um and then the other item to do
with that is this expense is not in your 2025 this is not in the EDA's 2025 budget um but it from what I understand it it it should be an expense or an EDA funded project i don't know if the
EDA has ever talked about that in the past maybe you could refresh my memory um but is that something my question would be is is would that be something that the EDA would want to the project to be done
this year which would require transferring money around and to get it done this year in my opinion there's no emergency um I think we can budget for it and get it done next year and just be really well prepared for it if there's something I'm
not aware of timing wise I'm I'm open but I would much rather go through the Would this be something that would be funded by those people that want to sign oh the other issue is like after we sell all the lots who owns sign that business
park is it still an 88 owned property i mean I think we're done that's what what I believe so then then the cost of of that would really go on to the land owners it's like a a neighborhood you know if you have the village neighborhood and you want to sign and
it's in your neighborhood that would be the cost of the property owner so I would I would suggest to maybe the people that have an interest in the new sign who brought it to our attention to begin with right it wasn't our idea no um this was brought to my attention by one of he owns two lots yeah so I would
suggest that maybe they come together and decide on something that they would like to have i mean it's something we legitimately can and are doing leg work for but you know then yeah we can do all the coordination and all this but I I think the invoice should go to the property owners because it's not I mean
once we sell those lots we're done it's going to be a $5,000 sign probably much more how much was the golf course sign 50 no no no they had a big number out there i was going to Which one the one up there
or the one out here security national there was a big uh Wasn't there a big kurfuffle about it i don't know that was Well my only thought is like you were saying what's the point like if not everyone plays ball and don't you have to have a sign that's big enough to handle all of them because then in the
future somebody's gone then somebody else wants to you know what I mean need a sign big enough so yeah maybe it's better if they figure out how important they are for that so So you're saying that there's never there was never any
promises made back in the day of you will you you know if you buy a lot in this business park there will be a future entrance sign no I No I don't recall i wasn't yeah I think that's the best answer i don't recall okay i don't
know i mean we should I guess we should look we should go back in the old documents and read up and see what they say mike has I think I think there was talk about the current sign there should be right with all the lots that are no longer
available and all that that's that's the only discussion that was a sales technique i mean that that was in our interest to advertise that but now this is a different Yeah yeah that sign is not weathered well it's although the EDA
isn't we're not actively you know owner is up there any longer yeah we should just take it down we should take at the very least take it down yeah that would be an expense that should be ours you know taking it down and then if someone wants a new one I think that would be up to the property that's my feeling right now without reading the document right
is that the property owners sure and especially if we're if we're not and we're not responsible for that business park after all those lots are sold i mean but maybe we are i mean those those sale agreements we have specify some responsibilities that we have you know
ongoing right you need to develop you need to build you need to have but once once they're done and they're done I mean they finished with the project I think there's no there's no more room for the EDA we're done I mean there's no ongoing obligation this might be like
hurting cats and maybe we won't get there but perhaps there is a role for us to play in in organizing the thinking around their sign and getting quotes etc they may not bite on it well there's there's a lot of
bad things happened really early on and and things got out of hand and there's big MPCA settlement agreement and so I it's been a long time since I read those documents but I think there might be some legacy stuff in there so we still
Yeah we might because Yeah what about You're right what about the water and soil and management of that so I've been meaning to convene uh the EDA does have the design review committee which directly relates to Cedar Grove so uh there's there's other
topics that have come up about Cedar Grove um inquiries from existing property owners that perhaps the design review committee could also discuss well yeah let's that makes sense let's get that document out okay dust it off and get the community together and read up
and you guys handle the um spring sign bonfire then before all the snow goes well one of the property owners um Chris Chris Skillum offered to to dispose of the sign his out of his own oh good um yeah he's
opening up his gym next week or something so yeah which is what prompted this this this inquiry um about directional signage where to turn can we just approve that right now can we say Chris is okay i'm okay saying that yeah let's accept
right now and do anything else with it okay okay um which is my final um question and related to Cedar Grove business park is I received another inquiry um from one of the one of the um
property property owners and and that is has the EDA ever discussed having um mailboxes like one of those you know mailboxes in one spot for all for the entire
park rather than Okay because um there isn't mail delivery and I think I think that person is hoping that that would that would prompt that okay only if you live in Creezville okay okay so back to
the open meeting law is the city going to have a grand opening at your new building open meeting law the well what comes that is once in a while there's an event
that we're a lot of us are invited to oh and and at that point I think we post it so then we just keep track of that cuz you post that as kind of a a meeting then when we know that more than four of us are going to show up for an event at
an event yeah thank you I'm tracking with where you I assume you're going to do some kind of a thing yeah special invitation Just teasing you season is over everyone's coming to a big party
we're not going to have everyone tracking up the clean floors take your boots off and will we will our meetings revert to city hall at that time it's uh totally up to whatever the organization wants to do we can test their We used to have our meetings at
city hall and then they stopped their building but now they got a really nice space there it wasn't always here not in the sense of before no okay you meant like a Yeah we didn't build that in again yes most certainly we are but not till May that's not far away i know
it'll go by fast i bumped into Chris Lavine just before this meeting and said I'll be knocking on that door 10:00 a.m maybe 9:59 Monday morning no no no no no wednesday oh is that He said I might Is there a sign going might lose it that's
another side story apparently we're not going there anything further from the executive director oh I spent too much time i remembered what my was about it was just about you know um so now Mayor Benson and I have uh uh
had some background with with uh the Tac Harbor Minnesota Power but um roles have changed uh there's new new people and so um I just thought it'd be a good and I wrote this to Heidi not expecting you i was just kind of spitballing ideas but
um to have some kind of a meet and greet with the new the new players and to also kind of introduce um Siri into the the mix there as far as just uh getting comfortable with with some of the partners and um just you know clearly
it'd be great to have Shoulder Township involved and um I just thought it would be a worthwhile exercise for us sooner rather than later um so I'll just hope to get those contacts and and maybe do a a doodle for because you already had the
one right the new Minnesota power one you have that person yep so and I haven't met them and Yeah so but I mean she has the name oh yeah that's all I know were you also going to mention about Grand Portage and so would Oh
right so would this be like a a an open house before we start the strategic planning just everybody meets uh yeah I don't I don't know that it needs to be an everybody thing but just I was hoping to get a little more familiar with some of the stakeholders and yes thank you
for reminding me we did talk about Grand Portage being included in in the discussions um sooner rather than later because there was just um talk about the the history of the land and and that sort of thing so okay um yeah just
wanted to share that idea so nothing big okay no it was big all right thank you all right that takes us then if there's any other comments or concerns I don't see any to uh adjournment so is there a motion to
adjourn the March regular meeting motion one of us yeah and that's all I need to do to adjourn yeah magic thanks everybody next meeting is Tuesday April the 15th robert say there is Did we get a second because it doesn't need
a Robert so you don't need a second okay the city we just say "Hey we're done." Yeah when you get to the end of the agenda agenda we're done we did our city as long as you approve the agenda we're done all right good good job um this isn't I
didn't bother watching one roof come up here there's no I mean just like our meetings they could participate or right oh yeah if they really wanted to right there's no difference okay feel bad sometimes i know