WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=XLYV4ATuXmc NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: XLYV4ATuXmc): - 00:00:16: Meeting Start, Roll Call, and Minor Repairs - 00:01:59: Historic Village District Designation Finally Completed - 00:02:52: Updating Design Guidelines Brochure; Grant or Band-Aid? - 00:06:24: Hamlet Designation: National vs. Single Depot Options - 00:13:30: CLG Grant Status and Demolition Updates: 1260 and 1274 - 00:16:15: Historic Building Salvaging Ordinances Discussed for Future - 00:19:30: Hamlet Update: Zoning Meeting Regarding Warehouse Plan - 00:26:25: Public Outreach: Website Updates with Student Liaison - 00:32:31: Committee Communication and Similar Preservation Problems - 00:40:49: Colonial Fair Success, Buttons, and Koozies Planning - 00:46:58: Library Collaboration: Summer Program and Town Hall - 00:50:40: Town Hall Doors: Budget and Repair Discussion - 00:55:50: Training, Minutes Approval, and Adjournment Part: 1 1 00:00:16.160 --> 00:00:31.279 This Historic Preservation Commission meeting is being held on May 19th, 2026 at 7 p.m. Statement of adequate notice. Pursuant to the Sunshine Law, adequate notice in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act was provided on January 5th, 2026 of this meeting's 2 00:00:31.279 --> 00:00:47.360 date, time, and location, the agenda was mailed to the Cranberry Press and Home News Tribune, posted on the Township Bulletin board, mailed to those requesting personal notice, and filed with the municipal clerk. Roll call and volunteer hours, please. Miss Sutmire, >> sorry, 3 00:00:47.360 --> 00:01:03.920 >> here six. >> Okay, Mr. Guyer, >> here. Two hours plus the meeting. Yep. Hey, Miss Hamlin >> here. >> Zero. All right. Mr. H >> here. Eight hours. >> Hours. Okay. Miss Ryan is out and Miss 4 00:01:03.920 --> 00:01:30.159 Marlo is out. All right. We have a quorum. >> Great. So, we have body. we can get organized around our goals for the year. Um so why don't we start we can start with going through um any minor or ordinary maintenance repair 5 00:01:30.159 --> 00:01:44.079 approvals. >> Yeah, only a couple. Um the first one was front porch repair for 43 South Main Street. Um just replacing in kind and then 15 Station Road, a shed replacement 6 00:01:44.079 --> 00:02:00.560 in the back yard. Perfect. >> Awesome. Okay, great. Um, so we'll begin with the Cranberry Historic Village District and the designation of 7 00:02:00.560 --> 00:02:17.760 properties and removal of buffer area. Um, Brendan, I I know we had um it was first reading right? >> It's been passed. I went to the TC meeting in case they had any questions during their discussion of it. Um, and 8 00:02:17.760 --> 00:02:35.760 yeah, it's uh they passed the ordinance on May 11th. Uh, it takes effect 20 days after its passage and uh >> Oh, so it's done. >> It's done. Um, I know this and this commission's been working on these goals since at least the 2019 master plan and 9 00:02:35.760 --> 00:02:52.560 um it Yeah, >> we're done. >> Jeez. Oh my god. We couldn't have done it without you, Brendan. You saved us. And this is um huge for us. Oh my gosh, love it. So now um I guess our next thing is 10 00:02:52.560 --> 00:03:07.120 we're going to work on those um start working on updating the design guidelines brochure, right? We're going to I think now that we have that and I have the software where I can update it like in Acrobat. 11 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:25.360 Um we can update the PDF and go through it. What do you think? >> It's going to require a grant, but I I'd really recommend having it done. You know, it's been 20 years since that was done. And the way that those are made by 12 00:03:25.360 --> 00:03:42.159 other towns these days is to a much greater, you know, m much more user friendly, much more detailed uh way than it was than we did it 20 years ago. So really, I think that should be the >> You think we should have a grant to do 13 00:03:42.159 --> 00:03:56.799 it? >> I would. Yeah. >> Okay. It's going to take a while though because we have the CLG and >> Yeah. >> Okay. I was hoping maybe we could just kind of piece it together ourselves like um but 14 00:03:56.799 --> 00:04:14.480 it I I I trust what you think. You know, yeah, it's just going to take a little time. And um I wonder if there's like a band-aid we could do with it until we get a grant. I was wondering if there's an interim solution and then gets later. >> Yeah. What do you think if we do like I 15 00:04:14.480 --> 00:04:29.040 mean we could do the the the band-aid approach would be like taking what we have and just kind of starting to at least cross out some of the things 16 00:04:29.040 --> 00:04:46.240 that are irrelevant. And >> so that design guideline mostly is educational rather than ordinanceish. Yeah. >> Right. It's mostly teaching people and that all still holds true. It's mostly 17 00:04:46.240 --> 00:05:01.680 teaching them about different styles, teaching them about things to consider when they're making changes. >> And then there's just like old stuff in there. like it'll say like XYZ restaurant or like there's like old there's old stuff in it, but we can fix that. I mean, 18 00:05:01.680 --> 00:05:17.440 >> if there is I don't >> So, you think we should add a new section with more of the ordinance language? No, not even. Um, no, because I think the the the brochure with the pictures is really good for 19 00:05:17.440 --> 00:05:32.720 helping people learn about the styles and >> um and what things are called and what things to consider. >> And the ordinance is still the ordinance. It's just we've relaxed the rules around non-contributing properties now. And then like maybe what we do is 20 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:48.240 we put together like an appendix or something for it and then with the ordinance and then just like laying out the contributing non-contributing and then maybe we also add in our like flowchart of like how to do an application and what the processes because remember we saw that like at 21 00:05:48.240 --> 00:06:08.000 other towns they did that. Um I don't know if it has to be on that PDF or not. >> Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe we make it as a supplementary like thing. Yeah. Okay. So um Okay, let's just take a breather um for 22 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:24.479 the a little bit and then we can revisit it in a couple months, I'd say. Yeah. Celebrate our accomplishments so far. >> Um okay, so um I have some big updates on the Hamlet. Um, I had a call with the 23 00:06:24.479 --> 00:06:41.520 state and um, it was very interesting. Um, we talked all about what's involved with getting designated nationally and with the state. And what I learned was that to get designated with the state, it's one and the same with national. 24 00:06:41.520 --> 00:06:58.000 It's the same application, the same process. >> So, what remember what it used to be like the list that we've used where we had the state? They aren't doing that anymore. It's not like you have local designation then state designation and then national and it goes up in you know 25 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:14.880 it's different now it's um local designation is the highest protection then state recognition comes from you get the eligibility which is what we we got and then then you go for national and if you get national you get state 26 00:07:14.880 --> 00:07:29.840 >> state >> so that was a big learning and so we talked about what's involved she explained to me that um for the hamlet it's um more involved than a single property because 27 00:07:29.840 --> 00:07:45.360 um usually people do do it just a single property but because we're like a whole district it's going to be more labor intensive. We may be over the CLG amount um because of all the properties involved. 28 00:07:45.360 --> 00:07:59.919 And then we got off the phone and we had and and and I said, "Well, that's a lot to think about. we're going to have to think through how we go about this. She mentioned that like there's, you know, a CLG sort of like extension or like bridge that that can 29 00:07:59.919 --> 00:08:16.720 get additional funds on top of CLG and and talked to all this and we got off the phone and then that afternoon she emails me and she goes, "Oh yeah, I forgot to mention one more thing." because your COE for the hamlet is a 30 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:33.200 extension in a a um an extension of the railway corridor. You actually would need to file for the entire rail corridor >> national to get >> the entire >> Yes. So I wrote back to her. I said, 31 00:08:33.200 --> 00:08:48.720 "Wow, that's a lot of Actually, what I did was I waited a few days and I was like, I'm just going to process this and go back and read it again. make sure I'm reading it right. So I I emailed her a few days. I said, "Wow, that's quite a lot to 32 00:08:48.720 --> 00:09:04.080 handle." And I said, "I just don't think that our town has the resources or um ambition to be able to handle filing for the railroad corridor. There's like a dozen municipalities involved or whatever." And then I said, "What about 33 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:22.560 just doing the one railroad depot?" And they said that could be an option. So, we have a decision to make if we wanted to try to go forward with just the single railroad depot option or if 34 00:09:22.560 --> 00:09:37.920 we want to try to go and get the entire hamlet, which would mean we'd have to go for like the entire corridor. And if I think I remember something in the letter in the COE letter that said that the state was not considering 35 00:09:37.920 --> 00:09:52.640 pursuing national recognition for the rail corridor at this point, right? So we would have to first then convince the state that it's even worth doing. >> Yeah. Like do we feel that strongly? I >> Yeah, I agree. 36 00:09:52.640 --> 00:10:09.680 My my thought is um we're we're locally locally um designated for the hamlet, which what we've learned is apparently the strongest. And um getting the depot building actually 37 00:10:09.680 --> 00:10:27.519 might be nice, especially since we know the owner is very in like passionate about that, cooperative. he would need to be willing to assist in that or >> Yeah. >> Right. participate in the designation >> and and remember our conversation last 38 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:44.480 month with him. Um the fastest way to get that done. He seemed eager to contribute money towards getting it done. So I think we should make ourselves available to him to help him. If if that's something he's interested in, something he's interested in putting money towards, then I think we should 39 00:10:44.480 --> 00:11:02.000 help him do that. But I I don't think we should take it on as our project. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean, I think I don't know if he they have the resources to to take it on as a What I'm thinking is like what if um I think we I'm thinking about it a lot 40 00:11:02.000 --> 00:11:19.040 because I also don't know if it is enough to get designated. And what the lady from the state explained to me is that the process with the national it is a very long lengthy process. It requires an expert and she said that 41 00:11:19.040 --> 00:11:35.360 there's a lot of like fake experts out there and that I have to be careful about who we choose. Um, so that's I don't think it's a good idea to just say to the owner like go for it because that's it's not going to get 42 00:11:35.360 --> 00:11:52.399 done because that he's >> there may be a reason why it might get done and I don't want to speak on his behalf because this is not based on any conversations I had with him, but there are tax benefits to him if it gets the national recognition and then he goes through restoration. So, I don't know if 43 00:11:52.399 --> 00:12:07.200 that was a factor and why he's interested in it, but >> it might be. Yeah, >> what I was thinking we could do is like um cont and this is what the Andrea from the state recommended was um again and this is the other direction was just contact the same consultants that we 44 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:24.480 were using for CLG grant and and talk to each one of them and see what they think like and I I I you know since my name's on this I'll I I can own it like put in the phone calls and try to figure out what the if because if the consultants tell me like there's no way we can do 45 00:12:24.480 --> 00:12:42.560 this then then we know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um but it seems like it's a pretty um it's a big project and it takes a long time. It's a lot of back and forth with the the National Park Service, I think is who it is. So, um 46 00:12:42.560 --> 00:12:59.440 but the consultants and then I think we could talk to >> the owner and see exactly it makes sense. >> And see if it makes sense. Exactly. get the do some research and try to figure out um I mean I think it I think it's it's kind of coming together and that it 47 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:16.160 the path of going simple I think it's going to be better for us um >> okay >> because then then we'll have like you know a certificate of eligibility for the hamlet a local designation for the hamlet and then if we could get national for the for that 48 00:13:16.160 --> 00:13:30.880 >> part of it yeah that >> yeah that would be like huge So, >> okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Next. Um, CLG Grant, we are still waiting to hear. So, say a prayer. 49 00:13:30.880 --> 00:13:47.600 Hopefully, we Yeah. Um okay. All right. So, all of our sites. Okay. So, I had an update on um 1260. Okay. So, I I spoke with Barbara 50 00:13:47.600 --> 00:14:04.079 about these um Okay, so 1260 South River Road is going to be demoed and apparently the owner is taking care of it and the town is >> of of the property. The town doesn't own it yet. 51 00:14:04.079 --> 00:14:20.480 Um, and so there is not I guess what it was described to me is that they're they're demoing it themselves, I guess, or doing something. >> Are they going to do any kind of >> I don't know >> documentation? I don't know. That's what 52 00:14:20.480 --> 00:14:37.199 I think we need to still push for. I don't think they've they're as far along yet with that one. Now, for 1274, um we they um they forwarded our proposal to the lawyer. 53 00:14:37.199 --> 00:14:54.079 Um and the good news is that the lawyer right now is really busy in our town right now dealing with some other stuff with affordable housing. So they've empowered us to figure out how it works to do a salvaging. 54 00:14:54.079 --> 00:15:12.000 Um, so what that means for us is that I have a list of salvage companies and it would be great if we could try to figure out who would be the best company for our situation. 55 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:26.320 someone who's insured, someone who isn't going to charge us. I mean, there should be a benefit for them because they're getting this benefit. >> Yeah. >> Um, and then I also asked Barbara to find out who the Walters Group is using 56 00:15:26.320 --> 00:15:43.199 for demo because a lot what I found in my research is a lot of demo companies are also salvage companies. Um, >> yeah. So, um, so I guess guy, one thing, like I don't know if you and I could piggy back 57 00:15:43.199 --> 00:15:58.639 together on that. Like I'll show you what I found so far. Um, and I think we almost just need to put together like a memo for the TC to say like, okay, >> we found this company. They um, they don't charge anything. 58 00:15:58.639 --> 00:16:15.600 They're insured. They need three days. they go in, they take it, you know, they profit on it, you know, and there's a whole bunch of different um business models, as you will. >> So, we just need to look at who's around by us and figure out who would be the 59 00:16:15.600 --> 00:16:31.600 best. >> Okay. >> I found one company already. I left a message. They're down the shore. >> Um I think they might be the best because they have like a little store where they sell stuff to like people who are building. Yeah. Those people I think might be the best people because then 60 00:16:31.600 --> 00:16:47.360 they'll just really just come in, grab what they need. >> They'll take what they need. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Um >> Okay. I think anything's better than putting the whole >> You want to send me what you already have and then we can >> So, another another thing that I found when I was doing all this salvage 61 00:16:47.360 --> 00:17:03.759 research and I talked with Barbara at length about this is that um a lot of municipalities have it built into their historic preservation laws and ordinances that whenever a historic building is demolished, it needs to be 62 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:19.120 salvaged first. >> Yeah. >> And we don't have that. But I have I found a municipal guide for other municipalities and a lot of towns do have that built into their language which I feel like would be great for the environment and that's why that's what I 63 00:17:19.120 --> 00:17:34.160 talk about with Barbara. The other thing that >> is that something we can propose to them. >> That's what I was thinking. I I see we have to think about this because the other idea is that a lot of towns have in their ordinance a salvage waiting 64 00:17:34.160 --> 00:17:51.679 period for whenever a building is demolished. There's like a a week it's always a week long to allow for salvaging. So I guess it kind of goes hand inhand with h having an ordinance. Uh but we don't have that in Cranberry and it might be something for us to think about in the future. I mean, hope 65 00:17:51.679 --> 00:18:07.360 I know we probably don't want any more historic structures to get demolished, but um I don't know. >> It would be worth looking at. >> Yeah. >> Do you have the Do you have the Send that to 66 00:18:07.360 --> 00:18:24.080 >> I have a Yeah, it's part of my the whole guide. And the problem is is like the town is just too overwhelmed right now to get involved and deal with any of this because right now they're just on a straight path to getting the affordable housing taken care of. So, but I've been 67 00:18:24.080 --> 00:18:42.240 I I I have confirmation that we are not outside our lane by doing any of this research and stuff. >> So, we are allowed to go and propose something to them. >> Exactly. >> Even if they end up sitting on it for >> on the radar. Yeah, exactly. >> If it is something that seems 68 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:58.080 worthwhile, it probably should be proposed along with or also by the environmental commission, I would think. I don't think that's >> the environmental commission, I imagine. So, >> co-sponsor. >> Exactly. That's what I That's why I was talking about it at length with Barbara 69 00:18:58.080 --> 00:19:12.960 because I'm like, Barbara, this is like this is how we all can work together here and and think about, you know, double benefits, right? And yeah. >> All right. 70 00:19:12.960 --> 00:19:30.960 >> So, that's that's good. Um, no updates on 147 Plansboro Road. Okay. Yeah. So, that's that's that. Okay. Next we have public outreach. Um oh you know what before we get shoot 71 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:47.200 we don't have this on the agenda but before we go further this is on the subject of the hamlet. I want to make sure we cover this. Um I'm sorry I'm jumping back. Carol I know you're just you're probably has your head spinning. Um 72 00:19:47.200 --> 00:20:04.640 um so last week we had they had a zoning meeting on the hamlet um where they presented everything um to to zoning for like a final approval um >> for the warehouse. >> For the warehouse. Did any of you guys have a chance to Gina was there. She 73 00:20:04.640 --> 00:20:20.160 took really awesome detailed watch. You watched it. >> Okay. I I listened to it and then I actually took the transcript and I studied it. um because um I wanted to make sure I really understood what the next steps were that 74 00:20:20.160 --> 00:20:37.520 pertain to us. And there were um there were three things. There was the neighbor the neighbors requesting that they don't widen the road just on the depot side. And there was a lot of back and forth on that. And so I don't know in looking at 75 00:20:37.520 --> 00:20:52.159 the transcript, I'm not sure if it's 100% solid yet. There was a lot of back and forth about and it I started getting very confused when they were talking about the traffic flow and turning in and whether it needs to be widened on one side versus the other. But they did 76 00:20:52.159 --> 00:21:07.600 keep saying in the in the meeting that um it's weird that they're doing it only on one side, but usually like when you widen a street, you widen it on both sides equal. Um, and the neighbors don't like 77 00:21:07.600 --> 00:21:25.200 it because it's impinging on the side of the neighbors. >> Yeah. >> I feel like for us, and tell me if you guys don't agree, I don't think it's something that we should be as passionate about because I 78 00:21:25.200 --> 00:21:40.400 think we have other things with the plans that are more important to advocate for like, you know, the design of the strip, >> right? And if there's like um a few more feet into it the space, I 79 00:21:40.400 --> 00:21:54.960 think it's unfortunate, but like I feel like it's kind of above our our purview. >> I do agree. Um for two, well, one because it's up to the zoning board to consider the neighbors, not us. Uh and 80 00:21:54.960 --> 00:22:10.559 also I understand um the alignment is better to have it on the south to expand it on that side of the road. it aligns better with the way that the road continues. So there are reasons to do it that way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. 81 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:27.679 >> Okay. So the second issue um was the bathroom issue >> and the neighbors were even though the vision was to have the bathroom as a place so people who are visiting can use the bathroom. Um, the neighbors are I 82 00:22:27.679 --> 00:22:42.559 think were and even though they were planning to make it like kind of a closed bathroom, I think the neighbors feel like it's inviting too many people um or or you know making it into a truck stop. >> Yeah. >> Um >> well security becomes a problem. There's 83 00:22:42.559 --> 00:22:57.440 no question about it. So, what I was going to convey because the the architect reached out to me to ask me, you know, if we had any feedback and their only feedback they took away was the bathroom thing. Um, what I also 84 00:22:57.440 --> 00:23:13.280 picked up from the transcript was that they need to hash out how they're going to like pro gate the space or um ensure that like people don't show up there at two o'clock in the morning and hang out. Um 85 00:23:13.280 --> 00:23:28.640 and and they said they acknowledged in the meeting that they need to work that through in the plants. So I think that the idea of not having the bathroom but maybe having a bathroom in the depot is something to pursue and then ask them if 86 00:23:28.640 --> 00:23:44.480 they in their next iteration of plans if they could kind of lay think through how we can landscape it so that people don't think it's a public rest stop. >> Yeah. Yeah, >> I I think if we could get them to do a single, you know, unisex 87 00:23:44.480 --> 00:24:01.600 toilet and handicap accessible inside the depot. >> Mhm. >> That would be the better way to go. >> Yeah. >> Rather than a separate building. >> I agree. >> Because it's just going to become an attractive nuisance. People and they'll lock it and nobody will use 88 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:18.640 it. So, it's better not to bother. >> Yeah. So, the only other thing that didn't come up in the meeting, but it came up before the meeting was um the signage for the depot. And right now, the sign the draft plan that they showed 89 00:24:18.640 --> 00:24:35.600 us said like the Edward Hadid Cranberry Station, >> right, the split it. So, I was going to ask them if they would do that. >> I think that makes sense. >> Yeah, I think so, too. And then the other thing was um just taking another look at their iteration with the 90 00:24:35.600 --> 00:24:51.440 landscaping because remember they had those like concrete like um planters and stuff like >> they said they were going to remove that. Yeah. Did they not? >> But they need I don't know because I wasn't in the zoning meeting. I couldn't see the plant. They did. >> Yeah. They made it more 91 00:24:51.440 --> 00:25:07.600 >> they made it more kind Yeah. natural and just like grasses and >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They definitely removed that. So then I think it's just collaborating with us as they move along in their plans. >> Okay. >> All right. So that's very exciting you guys. >> Yeah. 92 00:25:07.600 --> 00:25:23.520 >> Um did you have any other thoughts, Brendan, since you listened in on the zoning? >> No. Um well, yeah, I'll just share that the plans are still very vague on that side on the depot side. >> So that's I guess they got I guess it 93 00:25:23.520 --> 00:25:39.520 was detailed enough for zoning approval and >> that's all they needed at this point. So >> I think it'd be nice for them to come in again before they bring >> There'll be a site plan approval with planning board, won't there? Or is that it? >> They have to go to TC next. That was the next step. >> Okay, 94 00:25:39.520 --> 00:25:54.400 >> Gina. >> Yeah. >> Um they have site plan approval. >> Okay. >> Now, um but a lot of things get worked out like during the resolution compliance process they mentioned. I heard that. >> So the engineer is probably going to 95 00:25:54.400 --> 00:26:10.159 work through Okay. >> I don't know why those people. >> Yeah. >> So, maybe just ask the seed plans one more time before they break ground. >> I think that would be good. Just Well, before they finalize the approvals with engineer >> engineer >> because once they approve it, that's 96 00:26:10.159 --> 00:26:25.919 approve. I mean, you're not going to have any chance to change anything. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Later. >> Okay. Um good. Okay. So, next we have public outreach and communication. Emily, did you want to come up since 97 00:26:25.919 --> 00:26:43.440 you're on the website? And >> don't worry, don't be shy. Congratulations, by the way. >> She got into college. She's going to really college. >> Case Western. >> I'm so impressed. 98 00:26:43.440 --> 00:26:59.919 >> What a great school. >> Congratulations. >> You feel good now that it's done? >> Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. Well, um, so for the website, um, I know we have we have your plans. They're awesome. We all 99 00:26:59.919 --> 00:27:16.640 agree. >> Does Carol know it? >> Uh, do you do you know, Emily? >> Do you have you met Emily? Do you know? >> Carol's our new board member, >> new board member. >> Commission member. And And uh, so Emily 100 00:27:16.640 --> 00:27:33.039 uh, joined us as a student liaison. She's at Princeton High School. >> Yeah. >> And so she joined us, is it a year ago already? >> Almost. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> First committee to do this. >> So she's been working on some website 101 00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:49.120 upgrades. >> So that's what she's going to report on. But yeah, I have to say I think that we are the most innovative committee in Cranberry because we have implemented this student liaison role and it's been really great because not only you know 102 00:27:49.120 --> 00:28:05.520 Emily gets to have the experience of seeing how we work but like we are tapping her expertise in looking at the website and getting it updated because it's been a long time. So um so from what I understand next we need to figure out how we're going to 103 00:28:05.520 --> 00:28:22.480 implement these changes I think is our next step. And I heard from you Gina that there are some changes coming. >> Yeah. Um I don't know a lot of specifics about how it's going to look. I just know that um we're basically migrating to a new layout using the same like 104 00:28:22.480 --> 00:28:38.640 Civic Plus still. Okay. >> Um >> but it's kind of being updated. I think it has something to do with the websites have to be like ADA compliant by a certain years from now, but um it's a little bit on hold. I gave the kind of 105 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:56.799 list that you made to um Matt who works on the website. >> Um he he was kind of looking through them, but he kind of has to pause on it right now till we actually move to the new layout. >> Okay. >> Because some of it might have changed to what you guys wanted already. Yeah, maybe it'll like maybe he can as he's 106 00:28:56.799 --> 00:29:12.240 migrating it, he can implement. >> Yeah, a lot of it definitely looks more like modern and there might have been a couple things that were already what you guys said, but >> I just don't have the exact what it looks like yet because they haven't gone live yet. book. 107 00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:26.320 >> So, what I was going to do is take um Emily's list also and send it to Barbara to send to Denise um just so that everybody is going in the same direction and it understands what we need to accomplish. 108 00:29:26.320 --> 00:29:43.760 Um because um like I I heard the meeting you guys had and >> when we were at the TC, it's like this big push back. Oh, we can't change the website. We can't make any changes. If they had just said, "Well, we're about to migrate over to this new system 109 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:59.200 and maybe we can incorporate some of this when we migrate." That would have been a good answer. Yeah. But it was like this total stiff arm of like, "Oh, we can't make any change." >> Yeah. And and I think um but I and I discussed it with Barbara too because I said, "Listen, I mean, 110 00:29:59.200 --> 00:30:16.640 >> we're not going away. We have to update our website." Like it hasn't been updated since I mean, at least I' I've been doing this for almost eight years now. and I never updated it. So that means it's probably at least 10 years old. It needs to get updated. We can't 111 00:30:16.640 --> 00:30:33.679 just >> um we have to figure out a way. >> Well, maybe this is the moment. >> So maybe this will be our our opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. >> So um if you have a moment to resend like the changes, I guess or if you have them as well. Okay. All right. And yeah. 112 00:30:33.679 --> 00:30:53.840 Um, but yeah, thank you for for now you have experience of what it's like to be in government. So, I don't know if you'll if we want to do that in are we are we setting our our our next generation up for being positive about 113 00:30:53.840 --> 00:31:09.600 government and uh >> we have to have someone to take Emily's place when she goes off to college. >> Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on how we can go about doing that? like when we have the flyer from last year, we can update it. But um >> can can you turn your mic on? 114 00:31:09.600 --> 00:31:26.799 >> Oh, yeah. That's the right. >> Um I was hoping to have my sister join. She's a freshman high school this year and then next year she'll be a sophomore. And then also like if you guys were looking for more than one, I think it would be helpful to send it to Mrs. Foreman who works at the high 115 00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:42.880 school cuz she could definitely send out like an announcement and have more people apply. Yeah. What is her name? >> Uh, Mrs. Foreman. >> Foreman. >> F O R E M A N. >> I know she does a lot of the counseling. So, >> she's a counselor. >> Yeah, she's like a secretary for the 116 00:31:42.880 --> 00:31:58.720 counseling suite, but I know she sent out stuff about like the Cranberry scholarships when um I was submitting those. So, like I'm assuming she has some sort of communications with Cranberry. >> Okay. >> I will send I will send our flyer to Mrs. Foreman. I'll take that. 117 00:31:58.720 --> 00:32:15.840 Emily, could you share what aspects of this role do you think are most enticing to a high schooler? >> Yeah, of course. >> I can send an email to Gina. >> Yeah. Would that help? >> Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah, that would help a lot. >> I can definitely do that. 118 00:32:15.840 --> 00:32:31.519 >> Cool. >> Great. >> Thank you. >> Um, >> cool. Thank you. >> Okay, so next we have communication across um committees and GC. So, I did the um I did our summary which Barbara 119 00:32:31.519 --> 00:32:48.720 used for the TC meeting. I'll do the same thing tonight. Um I think we're we're getting there, you know. Um just going to continue to try to communicate. Um oh, what do I say? Oh, speaking of 120 00:32:48.720 --> 00:33:04.480 communication, I had a very interesting communication the other day. Um, this is with not just across TC, but this is across other towns. Um, I saw an article. Um, and it was funny. It was similar to something like this one. 121 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:19.600 >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. This was even worse. This one was in um Lawrence Township and it was a Get this. Tell me if this is familiar. It was a farmhouse that's historic that was 122 00:33:19.600 --> 00:33:38.320 purchased by a corporation sat un unoccupied for 30 years and they went and had a planning board meeting. A developer was threatening to sue the town and they basically allowed the de 123 00:33:38.320 --> 00:33:55.840 demolishing of this uh farmhouse. It's a historic farmhouse and now they're going to build I think um something like 120 apartments, 20 of which will be affordable and um I I so I called their I called I 124 00:33:55.840 --> 00:34:12.639 called the the HPC chair and I said to him I said I I had to call you because it just I felt like deja vu. I mean, I feel like we had the same thing happen to us in December. And I said, you know, what kind of things did you do to try to protect this 125 00:34:12.639 --> 00:34:29.200 property? And he said they had it locally designated, but they didn't have it as a shipo. So that that hurt them. And then they also in their ordinance 126 00:34:29.200 --> 00:34:45.359 they their local ordinance even though they had it locally designated the town found a loophole by designating it an area in need of redevelopment and that allowed them to bypass the historic stuff 127 00:34:45.359 --> 00:35:00.960 >> actually informally bypass it um and find a way to demolish it even though he actually still believed that they were actually violating their own town loss in doing so. Um, but we sort of commiserated a little bit and um, I 128 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:16.400 guess for us what it means is like we're not the only town dealing with this. You know, we're seeing that this happens in Old Bridge, seeing this is happening in Lawrence. >> And um, we talked about collaborating a little bit. He he's having trouble with 129 00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:33.359 people doing work on their houses and not submitting applications. I said, "Oh, well, we have a flyer that we made. I'll send it to you. And then he and I said, "Do you send out new homeowner letters?" And he said, "No, we want to get to do that." And I was like he's like, "Can I see your homeowner letter?" 130 00:35:33.359 --> 00:35:50.480 And I was like, "Yeah, I send that to you." So So there might be some opportunities. I don't know. It's just something to think about um putting forward strategies like longer term strategies. Like I think for us maybe next year talk to TC about finding like 131 00:35:50.480 --> 00:36:06.720 three to five properties and saying listen we demolish three historic properties this year. Can we save these three to five and let's put together a really strong local ordinance and think about whatever Lawrence did and not do 132 00:36:06.720 --> 00:36:23.040 it that way. word it stronger. Um, so it's actually like being protected. Um, so that's that was something we were talking about like we were kind of strategizing together. So >> I don't know. What do you guys think? 133 00:36:23.040 --> 00:36:38.079 >> That's good. >> Well, >> what do you think, Brandon? >> Good. >> I was just going to say the more various towns can help each other, I think the better. If >> they have issues or we have issues, we can share those. 134 00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:53.520 And if there are ordinances that other towns have written that >> work should look at. >> Yeah. So we and we have the language we got we put it in the packet a few weeks ago or a few months ago. That was 135 00:36:53.520 --> 00:37:09.760 language I got from Preservation New Jersey. Um, and so one thing I'm thinking about is like compare what Preservation New Jersey gave us with what Lawrence has maybe and maybe try to find somewhere where, you know, the demolition was actually stopped 136 00:37:09.760 --> 00:37:24.240 and see if there's like >> Yeah. or found language, >> you know, identify a couple towns where preservation is very >> stronger. Yeah. places like >> I'm thinking off the top of my head, but Montlair 137 00:37:24.240 --> 00:37:41.119 I think has a pretty strong >> preservation. Sorry. >> Kate May. >> Kate May. >> Kate May. Yeah. >> I mean, this is crazy. Do you see this language here? Look, it says at this time >> in our package, too. >> Yeah. It says, um, >> I mean, I saw it when you sent it, but >> at the time, no one on town council had 138 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:56.800 heard about the demolition, but the following month, Nicole Shapiro, the township engineer, made a lengthy report to the town council about the demolition, claiming that although it was listed in the 1982 historic site survey, it is not considered a local landmark. Does that sound familiar? I 139 00:37:56.800 --> 00:38:12.640 mean, it's just like um no matter what you do, when people are trying to demolish something, they try to find every little loophole that they you know, it was kind of like with the other house on Plansboro Road where 140 00:38:12.640 --> 00:38:28.400 they, you know, here we are looking at a house with a historic um you know, a historic thing in their deed and then the lawyer is saying, "Oh, it's not really historic." Um and then you know we go back and forth 141 00:38:28.400 --> 00:38:45.839 about you know whether you know if it's shipo eligible is that not good enough or >> it's not. >> It's not. No it's not. >> But then locally designated is supposed to be the strongest. >> Yeah. >> But for in Lawrence it didn't work. I I would say that if we're going to talk 142 00:38:45.839 --> 00:39:02.160 about individual properties getting local or advocating for their local designation that that should be based on those property owners wanting that. I think you're going to have a much easier time convincing the TC that they should impose that on the property owner if the property owner wants it. So I think that 143 00:39:02.160 --> 00:39:16.640 should be the basis of >> I think so too >> the individual properties. Like I think I think one good example could be like um Andy's farm because we know that that structure is in very good shape. It's a 144 00:39:16.640 --> 00:39:32.880 good example of like of a you know a simple colonial like farmhouse. Um it's not a Victorian farmhouse, but it's a you know the style of the farmhouse. And we know that um you know the owner was is is engaged. 145 00:39:32.880 --> 00:39:48.240 >> Not Yeah. >> Yeah. So, I don't know. We might want to start thinking about like other types of like if we could figure out a like make a survey and find like an good examples of farm houses that are out in our town. 146 00:39:48.240 --> 00:40:03.760 >> We are doing that survey. Hopefully. >> Was that we are hopefully doing that survey. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. We have the list, but we might want to think about like, you know, we know there are some of these farm houses where the owners they they they're going to come after us with a baseball bat if we come anywhere 147 00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:19.200 near their property. Like those might not be the right ones. Um, so we might start thinking about like which ones, >> you know? Yeah. And then but I think like diversity of architecture always been like cranberries thing. So maybe we 148 00:40:19.200 --> 00:40:34.640 try to do it that way. like also try to make sure we have like a Victorian style one and like a um and I don't know if some of them have brick facades as well. I don't know if that's like >> you might know more. >> I'm not sure if there are many brick 149 00:40:34.640 --> 00:40:49.920 around farm houses. >> What are the main styles of farm houses? Yeah. >> So that's that. Um, I just figured I would, you know, know that we commiserate with other other people. 150 00:40:49.920 --> 00:41:07.440 >> Um, okay. Revolution events. Revolution New Jersey. How did it go? The Colonial Fair. >> Very nice. Very good. >> Was it? >> Great job. >> Yeah. Um, Sue made a poster showing 151 00:41:07.440 --> 00:41:24.079 the properties that have been relocated throughout Cranberry. Everyone who stopped at the table was like, "Wow, I've never I wouldn't have known." So, it was really great discussions. Um, >> yeah, that was good. And then Emily came to >> Thank you, Emily. >> speak with people for a while. Yeah. 152 00:41:24.079 --> 00:41:39.920 >> Thank you so much. Do you think we can reuse that for Cranberry Day? >> We could. Or if it's not the focal point, then we can make a smaller version if if something else is more the focal point for Cranberry Day. >> Or just have it. I mean, >> just have it on the side. >> Yeah. Yeah. have it like maybe have it 153 00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:55.440 as one thing for the adults and maybe do something like a game for the kids or something. >> Yeah, that's really cool. I I saw it when Sue sent it to me and I was like, "Wow, this is so great." >> Yeah, it's great. >> Yeah, it's a great poster. How was the 154 00:41:55.440 --> 00:42:11.040 um mounting and the like I had them put it on like um an easel thing. Did it >> that was that didn't arrive to I I only received just the poster. It wasn't on like an easel thing. >> No, 155 00:42:11.040 --> 00:42:33.200 it was supposed to. >> It was supposed to have like a cardboard piece on the back of it that made it stand up. >> Did not. No. >> Okay. Oh, well. All right. Next time. Cool. Um, >> oh, thank you so much. 156 00:42:33.200 --> 00:42:49.920 >> I can just take whatever. Did we Oh, did we use up all of our buttons? Did people take our buttons? >> What? They didn't want our buttons. >> Some people wanted them, but we have a lot of buttons. >> Yeah, that's a good amount. >> That's great. Don't we have them for primary day along with our 157 00:42:49.920 --> 00:43:05.760 >> Well, we'll play the koozies. Yeah. >> Yeah. How's the How are the koozies going? >> Well, it's the koozies are going okay, but there's um if we want neoprene, they're more expensive. They're 90 cents a piece, but I I 158 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:23.680 thought I thought I had asked her for neoprene at at the beginning. I have to go back and look. >> Well, it's like the same thing that's like wet suits are made out of. >> Oh. Oh. >> It's a >> material. >> Yeah. But it's a little more um 159 00:43:23.680 --> 00:43:38.960 I think it's a it's longerlasting than if it was just a foam thing because the foam would >> start to deteriorate. Okay. >> Neoprene is pretty Good. So foam was 90 cents, neoprene is two. So 160 00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:53.920 $2. So and I asked her if we went in neoprene, what's is there any difference in the setup charges and the shipping charges? Is that >> Yeah. >> So we were at about 350 161 00:43:53.920 --> 00:44:12.079 pieces, I think, to maintain our $500 budget. Mhm. >> That was at 90 cents a piece. So, I think we're going to have to reduce the number, but I don't think it'll be might be 250 162 00:44:12.079 --> 00:44:30.880 something in that range. And if that neighborhood is okay and then we can go with that. >> I think I'd probably Yeah, I think it's worth doing your brain. There is another vendor that I was I was looking up this weekend. Um, we could get 550 neoprene 163 00:44:30.880 --> 00:44:46.880 front and back. Um, paying an extra 5 cents more to have eat it manufactured in the states instead of in China. Um, we would do that. Um, would come in under 500 and get 550 of them. So, >> how many? >> 550. >> Wow. 164 00:44:46.880 --> 00:45:04.000 >> This is from imprint.com. >> I've never used them, but >> I've used them. >> I've used them for something like business cards, I think. Um, this >> Yeah, >> seems like a good option. >> Yeah. >> Okay, >> let's give it We could give that a go this year and see. >> There's enough time that we're not 165 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:20.880 rushing any shipping on anything. So, >> they just have to get paid via PO. >> Okay. >> So, they basically uh if they're a new vendor, I just need a W9 and business registration certificate, which we had to go through last year. >> Um, I can email this to you, too, if 166 00:45:20.880 --> 00:45:37.359 that Yeah. And then I just need an invoice from them before I can actually like pay it. So it's not that long of a process. It just depends on if they can get you everything relatively quick. So >> that it's near 167 00:45:37.359 --> 00:45:54.480 >> and the artwork that you have is what they >> That'll be great. >> Well, I would rather do that if we could get 500 of them for $500 and that's great. I say we give it a go and then if it doesn't work out next year we found a 168 00:45:54.480 --> 00:46:10.480 lower cost solution. >> Yeah. Then they might they may come back. >> Yeah. >> But the thing it's good we have we still have your connection and we would use them for next year for other things. >> Yeah. Exactly. >> That's fine. >> Um >> Okay, cool. 169 00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:25.839 >> Cool. Um Oh, the house tour is canceled this year. We can cross that off. But the um >> the house tour is cancelled. Yeah, I think they're not doing it this year. Um, they're going to do it next year. >> Okay. >> And let's wait till next month to plan 170 00:46:25.839 --> 00:46:42.880 Cranberry Day. We can think about >> Yeah. >> what we want to do. We've got our poster. Um, I think maybe what we do is come up with like some sort of a game for the kids since it's usually a lot of kids that come by. Um, and then the adults will get koozies. 171 00:46:42.880 --> 00:46:58.640 Um, okay, cool. So, let's see. >> Very popular. >> What's that? >> The koozies will be very popular. >> Um, okay. So, you guys should have seen in your packet that um the library sent 172 00:46:58.640 --> 00:47:18.079 out a letter to all of us um that Youth and Teen Services are doing a summer enrichment program called Readers of Hidden Histories. and um they're reaching out to us um to 173 00:47:18.079 --> 00:47:33.920 see if you know there's an opportunity for us to collaborate um or connect you know with the library through these programs. Um they're asking what we fall under. So we would which of 174 00:47:33.920 --> 00:47:48.800 the there are three categories that you fall under businesses, committees and organizations and homeowners. So we would be easy >> committees and organizations. >> Um they would ask us to write a short bio that highlights our story and impact 175 00:47:48.800 --> 00:48:05.440 on the community. Um I guess it needs to be written like in a teen and children's like voice I guess. Um and share facts about for Cranberry to know. Um, and then they're going to do like a 176 00:48:05.440 --> 00:48:21.599 trivia thing, >> and they're going to do some small signs um, in the library, I guess. Um, they said, "For committees and organizations, consider a specific landmark or landmarks in town as your scavenger hunt 177 00:48:21.599 --> 00:48:37.440 sites." Um, so share history and highlights of your work. Some things to consider. What are spots in Cranberry that your committee or organization are responsible for? Which ones do you think exemplify the character of Cranberry best? Is there an initiative your group 178 00:48:37.440 --> 00:49:04.800 has worked on that you'd like to shed more light on and tell us about it? So, they're asking us um >> So, one thing I thought about was that we have a little overlap with Chips because I would imagine Chips is probably going to do the 1713 house if 179 00:49:04.800 --> 00:49:20.800 they're doing this. >> Yeah. Um, what if we were to focus on the hamlet or >> I think this building >> would be a good >> or town hall. >> This one because this this was the genesis of historic preservation in 180 00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:37.200 Cranberry. Um, and we are representing the municipality in its uh preservation efforts. Uh, and so I I think this would be a good location. >> Yeah, I like that idea. >> Town hall. I mean, I initially had thought in my head the hamlet too, but it's 181 00:49:37.200 --> 00:49:54.559 so f further removed from town that >> Yes, I actually spoke with >> to be something, you know, in town. >> You're absolutely right. I spoke with Liz today and she did say that they were hoping to get couldn't it it wasn't that it was off the table to be outside of the village, but they were hoping to 182 00:49:54.559 --> 00:50:09.680 have it concentrated in the village. >> Okay. Okay. >> So, I like >> Okay. So, we can do town hall. Um, okay. So um 183 00:50:09.680 --> 00:50:25.680 let me see. So, Bobby and I are sort of considered Sue and Bobby are considered library collaboration. What we can do is I can I'll reach out to Sue and Bobby since they're not here tonight and kind of share this with them. I can also probably draft 184 00:50:25.680 --> 00:50:40.640 something up really quick and for them to react to and enhance. Um, I think it'd be nice for us to contribute to this. >> Sounds great. >> Yeah. Get get our feet wet with our library collab. 185 00:50:40.640 --> 00:50:56.640 >> That'll teach you a little lesson. >> Okay, cool. Um, okay. Other business, town hall doors, guy. I have >> Well, Barbara was supposed to be checking on whether we could >> pay for it somehow. >> Yes. >> Did you hear anything back? 186 00:50:56.640 --> 00:51:13.440 >> Yes. So, what I heard is that they need to know how much it would cost to hire a handyman to install the moldings the way in which we would need them installed. >> I know. >> You mean just a guesstimate? 187 00:51:13.440 --> 00:51:29.520 >> Like they I think they want an estimate. Yeah. A quote. >> A quote from >> Yeah. Like a hand. Yeah. Contractor. >> So, >> do you have to get three bids and all that? No. Gina, >> if it's less, apparently Barbara told me it was less. It it was because it was a lower amount. I mean, I'm thinking this 188 00:51:29.520 --> 00:51:44.720 is like a $500 project. >> Yeah, >> should be. >> So, like, do you would know how to give the instructions? >> Yeah. >> Like, do you have a handyman? >> Well, I have a handyman. He's having >> placement surgeries. 189 00:51:44.720 --> 00:52:01.119 >> I have I can give you my handyman. >> I can give you my handyman if you wanted. >> Yeah, give me his name. Yeah, I'll give you and then you call him and then you >> and I'll confirm the numbers from the supplier too. I mean >> and then the supplier numbers. Yeah. So then if you Yeah. If you can get that 190 00:52:01.119 --> 00:52:14.720 together then what I'm going to do is put together like a little memo. Um because what Barbara said is that we have to we actually are going to have to sell this into them because I think some of them still believe that this is not 191 00:52:14.720 --> 00:52:31.839 necessary. So I'm gonna make sure I um So what happened Carol? I don't know if you've this has been a long time going is that um the front the door of the town hall if you notice it's sort of a 192 00:52:31.839 --> 00:52:47.440 modern door. Uh we brought to the attention of the town that the door was broken and needed to be you know repaired or fixed and we asked them to put in an application because you know we're in the historic district. They just decided to change it and they 193 00:52:47.440 --> 00:53:05.200 changed it to the a modern design. Um, yeah. And Brendan found these pictures. I mean, so now anyone who kind of looks at the door when we go through the door, we're all just sort of cringing because it's that >> Yeah. And so, um, what we've been 194 00:53:05.200 --> 00:53:21.920 working on doing is, well, the other main thing is that it's a violation of the state historic preservation act. um that and the state was supposed to have then actually consulted about this because this is a national landmark town hall. Um so that that's why we really do 195 00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:37.920 need to comply I think with making sure that things are done right. >> Um but the folks in at the time when they were doing it they they thought of safety and they thought that what they picked out was fine. So, we're we've 196 00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:54.960 come up with some solutions that mean in includes putting some molding on that's going to make it look closer to what that is. >> Um, but we need to kind of lay it out, I guess, for them. >> Here's the price. Here's, you know, and 197 00:53:54.960 --> 00:54:11.119 then do they have like a little budget left over from this year or do we have to wait until next year >> is is, you know, the issue. Sorry, I'm buzzing. All right. Well, we we'll get a number and then we can tell them. >> Yeah. 198 00:54:11.119 --> 00:54:26.240 >> Find out when they Yeah. >> Yeah. And then just I I think I'm going to just phrase it in like a positive way like, hey, you know, this is what it costs. It's not too much. And um Barbara said that they're going to ask like about durability and like how long will 199 00:54:26.240 --> 00:54:43.040 it last? And my take is tell me if you don't agree like no, it's not going to be it's not going to last forever. It probably will break like everything >> last forever. >> Exactly. >> And >> there's no reason that it should deteriorate either 200 00:54:43.040 --> 00:54:59.119 >> if it's put on the right way, you know, but it is going to it's going to be glued on or >> I think I think it's going to have to be glued on because >> those doors are metal. >> So you can't drive a nail into them. >> So glue doesn't last forever. Uh it's 201 00:54:59.119 --> 00:55:16.160 going to have to get reglued in, you know, 5 to 10 years. But that's the consequence of >> pretty strong construction adhesives. >> So I had one question I thought of when I went out the door last time. Do we want the molding on both sides of the dr 202 00:55:16.160 --> 00:55:32.160 of the door or just the outside? >> I think the outside. >> Okay. >> Do you think >> I think it's fine just on the outside itself? >> I think we need to mess with the inside. >> Yeah. Maybe we show the Yeah. The when we're doing it, we have the picture from the old way. 203 00:55:32.160 --> 00:55:50.559 >> Yeah. Brendon found. Yeah. >> Okay. Well, send me your handyman. >> I'll send you my handyman. >> Contact it. >> Okay. >> Cool. Thanks, guy. Um, training. Um, do we have any training updates? 204 00:55:50.559 --> 00:56:06.400 I signed up for that conference, >> so I'm going. Yay. Um, any new homeowner letters? Nope, not for this month. >> Okay. 205 00:56:06.400 --> 00:56:28.079 All right. Minutes. So, Carol, what we normally do is we look through these minutes and um this is from the last meeting. >> Yeah. Yeah. We usually Yeah. We usually just um look through quickly and make 206 00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:46.559 sure that everything is sort of like um >> I looked at them when Gina >> posted them. So they looked it looks okay to me. >> Yeah, same for me too. >> So I'll make a motion to accept the 207 00:56:46.559 --> 00:57:01.200 minutes. >> Second. >> Awesome. >> Okay. >> All right. Roll call for the April 21st minutes. Miss Sutmire, >> yes. >> Mr. Guyer, >> yes. >> And Mr. Hoo, >> yes. >> Okay, thank you. Motion passed. 208 00:57:01.200 --> 00:57:17.599 >> Okay, great. Um, okay. Public comment. Any uh discussion? Anything else to discuss, guys? >> Okay. >> All right. So, I'll make a motion to adjurnn then. >> Second. 209 00:57:17.599 --> 00:57:25.079 All in favor say I. I. >> Thank you.