All right. Um, this Historic Preservation Commission meeting is being held on January 20th, 2026. I feel like I'm really loud. >> Yeah. >> Um, at 7 p.m. Statement of adequate notice pursuant to the Sunshine Law, adequate notice in accordance with the Open
Public Meetings Act was provided on January 5th, 2026 of this meeting's date, time, and location. The agenda was mailed to the Cranberry Press and Home News Tribune, posted on the township bulletin board, mailed to those requesting personal notice, and filed with the municipal clerk. Roll call and
volunteer hours, please. Miss Sutmire here. Um Oh, boy. What did I work on? I would say about I'd say five. Five. Okay, Miss Ryan. >> Uh here five as well. Fine. Mr. Guyer is
not here yet. Um, Mr. Hull >> here. Three hours. >> Three hours. And Miss Marlo >> here. Two hours. >> Here two hours. Okay. Dr. Rogers is not here and Miss Yan is here. And all right. So, we are going to get
started with our reorg. So, at this time, I'm going to open the floor for chair nominations for 2026. Does anyone have a nomination for chair? Oh, thank you. >> Just nomination. >> I know these ones are easier a little bit.
>> Speech. >> All right. Roll call for Miss Sutmire as chair for 2026. Uh, Miss Sutmire. >> Yes. >> I know it's so funny. Miss Ryan, >> yes. >> Mr. Gar here. Mr. Hull. >> Yes. >> And Miss Marlo.
>> Okay. Thank you. All right. So then you kind of run from here. So we just need >> Okay. Yes. So next we have a nomination for vice chair. And so I nominate um Mr. Guy
>> Gary. Um >> he's just he's just running late. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um any other nominations? I should have done that room. >> Yes, sir. >> Welcome. >> I know it's confusing. Two meetings tonight.
>> You Oh, you went to the other one. >> All right. I'm going to close the floor for nominations for vice chair. Roll call for vice chair 2026 as Mr. Guyer. Miss Sutmire. >> Yes. >> Miss Ryan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Guyer's not here. Mr. H.
>> Yes. >> And Miss Marlo. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Motion passed. >> Okay. So next I'd like to um offer you up yourself Gina for administrative officer secretary for 2026.
>> Okay. >> Do we need a second? >> Yeah. The rest of them we need motion. Second. Thank you. All right. Roll call for me as board secretary. Miss Sutmire. >> Yes. >> Miss Ryan. >> Yes. >> Mr. Hoo. >> Yes.
>> And Miss Marlo. >> Yes. >> Thank you all. Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Uh do we need to discuss anything with the um appointments? Uh oh, this is the the open position
>> calendar you do first. Um >> I'm sorry, I missed the calendar. Yes, the calendar. >> The dates. Just to clarify, this is the same sheet I gave you last last month. Nothing's changed. It's just official vote. >> Um so it's just a motion and second on that again. Okay.
>> A motion to approve it. I'll second. All right. Roll call for the tal calendar dates for 2026. Miss Sutmire, >> yes. >> Miss Ryan, >> yes. >> Mr. H. >> Yes. >> And Miss Marlo. >> Okay. Thank you. Motion pass. >> Our last meeting of the year is on my
birthday. Just to everyone. >> So you know. Yep. >> Yeah. Celebration. >> Um and then the the member and liaison appointment. >> So appointments >> who was reappoint. >> Yeah. Go ahead. Yeah, just if it's
easier >> because you know the the classes and everything. >> Um, so Miss Ryan was reappointed till 2029. Well, end of 2029 and Miss Marlo was appointed to alternate one till 2027 end of
our liaison has changed you saw to Dr. Rogers. >> Y so that's it for that. >> Okay, great. All right. Next, um, we will hop right into applications. We have two guests. Um, we'll start with the the window replacement at 66 North.
Is that you, sir? >> That is me. >> All right. Come on up. Um, welcome. >> No, I promise you we're we're very kind. >> Can you just hit the right button on that? Yeah, perfect. >> Okay.
>> Not guilty. So, um, if you could state your name and then just tell us a little bit about your project. >> Sure. My name is Ken Halt. I'm with Renewal by Anderson. >> Okay. >> We are the replacement window division of Anderson. >> Okay. So, you're are you you are not the
homeowner. You are >> No, Alice Dom is. Um, she's it's actually right around the corner. >> Um, let's see. We actually have uh three other projects in the town that were approved uh uh
through us as well. So I'm just you know any questions regarding the project but it's absolutely something that we work with many historical uh preservation you know towns. It is a it's a product that maintains the traditional beauty of wood.
>> Yeah, you can sit right up. You can sit right down. Yeah, that's fine. Thanks, Simon. >> Go ahead. Sorry. >> It maintains the traditional beauty of wood. Um, but it's a it's a composite composing of 40% wood, 60% polymer. Um, it's definitely made to last a very long
time and it's going to be installed properly by certified Anderson installers. >> Okay. So, these are the um uh what is the name of are these the architectural windows? Oh, no. This is the acclaim.
series. Correct. >> Okay. Um usually in our front we have um we usually have uh people installing the architectural ones in the front streetscape. >> Okay.
>> Do you pro do you still offer those? Is that >> architectural? >> Are these different ones? >> Unfortunately, our window expert just like um is just ended his time with the commission. It's it's really sad because >> these I I I think there might be a a
corporate distinction between Renewal by Anderson and Anderson Windows. Can you talk us through maybe maybe that can help? >> Yeah, >> sure. So Anderson themselves may make something to that effect, but um no,
it's a it's uniquely through us. Anderson created this product to be the replacement um you know window for homes that aren't new construction, right? So Anderson sells new construction windows. We are the replacement division and we also consist of a polymer. It's a
composite material that doesn't expand and contract. It doesn't blister uh fade, peel, crack, and it especially doesn't rot. Mhm. >> Um when I was designing with Alice, we were maintaining the same grill pattern
and external grills. So like a lot of windows these days have grills between the glass. >> We are we are putting the full divided light like that was on the original windows. >> Okay, good. >> We're also maintaining >> uh it's a colonial >> um you know it's not a 50/50 window like
the sash. It's actually a colonial style. It's a little smaller on the bottom. It's it's it aligns exactly even to what is presently there. >> Um >> okay. So the only Yeah. The only thing um I'm
just trying to if we can figure out do we know if these are the same as the kind that we normally approve in the in in other applications. They're not the same because they're made. Yeah, they're not I think you're referring to like Anderson >> 400.
>> 400 is it? That's what it's called. 400 series. >> So Anderson makes a 200 series, a 400 series, and we're a step above both of those um being the acclaim series. And I have, if you need reference to three other projects um that were approved um
within a mile, I actually have a map of how far we were. And um >> but were they in the historic district or were they Yeah, in the historic district. >> Yeah, that would be helpful just because the way we work is we usually we kind of
try to follow precedents and stuff. Um >> so yeah, I think that so we just want to make sure that we're not approving what we we're typically um we don't approve vinyl windows >> that are street facing. And so, um, we
just want to make sure that that, um, these are not vinyl windows. >> No, this is actually plastic. >> Absolutely. It's not vinyl. It's a >> a clear distinction. Um, >> like I understand though that like you are now I actually had an Anderson
person come my house and quote because I just redid a bunch of my windows and um they did explain to me that um they aren't using straight wood anymore because it does expand and contract and so what they're doing now is using the wood fiber and max mixing it with like a
composite because it's supposed to be >> yeah it's called fibreex um you know 40% wood and 60% polymer. Now, I had the email ready to go and I don't know what I did. One >> moment. >> HPC. So, what we're trying to figure out, you
may know about this, is these um the homeowner is redoing their windows. They're keeping everything looking exactly the same, but they're using that um it's renewal by Anderson, not straight Anderson. And so they're doing something called
the um a claim series where it's a mixture of wood fibers and composite. And the question is like is that acceptable? I um >> since it's not the 400 ones that we
usually approve. >> One moment. I have the three other addresses. I got to find it. I don't know where it went. >> I do. >> Yeah. Yeah, it's in the in the packet. Yeah. All right, I have it coming because I
can't seem to The photos are look like this. I This is the exact same thing that I had done when I had my windows. It's like they don't actually give you like the actual pictures of the windows. Well, they have a >> brochure. Yeah. And so they make these
little computerenerated um picture dickies. >> Yeah. I'm gonna pull that up while I'm waiting. He's uh is showing me the the >> So I mean I know we're we're in we're stepping in the right direction because um they're doing everything to make it
look exactly as it was. >> But the question is are you know this synthetic material and I'm just googling it to you. five groups. >> So it says that basically um >> it was sent on the night and I had it this morning. So, oh that's what the
thing the 400 series says it blends >> I can tell you the 400 series is a wood window that's cladded with a >> vinyl vinyl clad and exterior exactly >> not what this is >> that's not what this is >> this is like a composite um mixed
>> we have approved other composits in town like I'm pretty sure like theano property near the Presbyterian church that was an composite window that was approved Okay. >> I was going to give you the exact addresses.
>> So, yeah, that's the thing. The it says um that the 400 series is wood interior and then what the what they do on the outside is they they take vinyl outside it, a thin layer of vinyl outside the
wood. So it's um >> and they said that um according to AI a claim is a higherend option. All right. I think I All right. So,
McDonald and Galisano. Let me see a project here. scope of work. Looking for the address >> historical approve. Yeah. So, two Maplewood Avenue >> for a Robert J. Pepin.
>> Um, >> do we remember that? That was um >> that's one >> Oh, that's the one. Um the mayor is that the mayor's old house >> Yeah. So the existing was something like that and then we did
the 3D but it actually was installed. So um >> yeah I remember doing that one. Yeah that's the mayor's office. I think it's still under approval. >> I think so, too. >> As I'm looking at the Anderson website
and looking at what this is, I think it's acceptable. >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> Do you guys feel >> any I have other questions, but I'm okay with the material. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay.
>> All righty. Um Okay. So, do we want to ask any We have questions. Um, additional questions about the application. >> Okay. Can I ask you I see the application says 11 windows to be
replaced and I I count I think 13 windows on the front elevation. So, are these what is the location of the windows? Because they're called out as like baby's room, dining room, and such. And I don't know. >> Oh, they're labeled. Yeah. So
I have I believe 11 of them or they were mostly front facing. So I'm not sure if it was four five downstairs, one on the side. Um and then upstairs it was about four.
Let me I could uh with the elevation >> the photographs that here show up. So, I got five on the first floor and I have six on the uh second floor.
So, the the ones on the second floor are the bedrooms and a bathroom. And then there's one in the hallway at the top of the stairs on the second level. Yeah. And then downstairs,
the living room side, the two front facing, and then the dining room to the left and to the right of the door, the two front facing, and then there's one that's on the side in the living room of the corner of the home. I mean, from the photograph, there are
four four windows across the front on the ground floor on the main house and then two more on the ground floor on the little what must have been an addition. >> Sounds like they're not replacing all of them. >> We weren't This wasn't a full uh This is
like phase one. the most needy. Uh I see. >> Yeah. Looking from head on. Absolutely. Yeah. You're going to see all of them like for like >> upstairs and down. >> Okay. >> Okay.
>> So, my second question is on one of the pages here. It calls out the window types and it says simulated divided light and you just said they were going to be true divided lights. So I just wanted to confirm which it is. >> Okay. Yeah. So you have simulated
divider light which is called a FDL without the spacer. So when it's without the spacer, there's a there's no aluminum bar that goes in between inside. Um, and that's for just heating properties. Like it has a higher R value when the sun isn't warming up a piece of
metal inside in between. Um, it's but when you're looking headon, it's front and back, outside, exterior and interior without that little aluminum spacer that goes in between the glass. It just has a higher R value. Um,
>> so there is a grid on the outside and inside >> front and back. Yes. >> Okay. >> No, that's good. >> So, what I'm hearing is that there's not there is sometimes there's a an additional component within the window um that's not really visible um to the
street side. >> Um and that's so that's not going to really impact us. >> It wouldn't be visible whether it was there like whether it was there or not. Um, I think Rockland County has, you know, as far as the R, like up north, they they don't want it in there because it does heat up and it changes the R
value. So, it actually has a stronger performance with it not being there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Does anyone else have any other questions? Okay. All right. I'm making a motion to approve. I feel good about this application. >> Second.
>> All right. Roll call for HP. I don't know. >> Roll call for HPC 269-25. Miss Sutmire. >> Yes. >> Miss Ryan. >> Shouldn't it be Mr. Guyer? >> Yeah. Now that he's here, we'll swap.
Okay. Mr. Guyer. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. H. >> Yes. >> And Miss Marlo? Yes. Thank you. Yeah, it for now. Um, thank you. Motion passed.
>> Thank you. >> Good luck with your project. Thank you for coming. >> Thanks so much. No problem. >> Thank you. >> So, next we're going to bring our friends from Market on Maine. I guess soon to be green olive. >> Hello everyone.
>> Hello. >> Hi. >> Thank you. >> So um so what I understand um you are changing your sign. You're changing the name of the the business and so we are just approving the sign. It looks like before it was the market on Maine with
the blue and now it's the green olive Mediterranean restaurant. Um is there anything that we should what else should know about this application? >> No, I think we just got the sign change. We got it approved by zoning and then the next thing was to come here and present it that if it's okay with the
committee then we'll go ahead and get the changes done. >> That's great. Does anyone have any questions? Nope. Okay. I love it. I'm going to make a motion to approve. It's very cute. I love it. >> Very nice.
>> Yeah. Yeah. >> If you made the motion. >> I made the motion. >> I'll second the motion. >> Okay. All right. Roll call for >> I think it's guys. Roll call for HPC 271-26.
Miss Sutmire, >> yes. >> Mr. Guyire, >> yes. >> Miss Ryan, >> yes. >> Mr. Hull, >> yes. >> And Miss Marlo, >> yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Motion passed. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Good luck.
>> All right. >> Uh do we want to go through minor um >> uh the garage door project? Yeah. >> Yeah. So, we just had one um I guess it was technically a minor uh application
for 163 North Main Street. I don't know what to do about this mine. >> Seems like there's feedback like >> I can't even turn it down. >> It's on my Mine's on the low. Um >> it's this guy. >> It might help at least. Yeah. Yeah, maybe it was that. Okay, let's turn off
the heater again. um for 163 North Main Street, they had an emergency replacement of their garage doors um recently. And then that's all for that. And then the next um sheet, I printed out the applications for 2025
that you guys went through. It's substantial. Um Yeah, that was all for that really. >> Okay, so um so let's now start getting into our old business as we have a lot
of some loose ends from last year that we want to finish up and then work on our goals for this next year. Um, okay. So, with regards to the amendment to historic district, I know Gina followed
up with Liz on our ordinance, which I know we're so close to being done with. Um, and so, just as a reminder, so, um, we have, um, deputy, are you deputy mayor Albidawi or No, you're not deputy
mayor. former mayor coun township committee member uh Albuddawi so background is that um we you know we had like a a bit of a delay and we reworked everything with uh fixing the buffer um
it's been ready to go um Liz started the ordinance at the tail end of last year we had one feedback session where we made some adjustments to some of the um details and I know that now it just needs to get done by her and go to you
guys. Then it will go to planning committee which is has seen it. They're ready to go and then you guys go back and then it's finally finished. Um and so I know that it's getting dep prioritized a little bit because of affordable housing. Um so hopefully she
can get to it when the affordable housing stuff is done. Um and that's where we are. >> Cool. Um, you're saying Blizz is working on the affordable housing and that's why it's on the back burner. Okay. >> Yeah. All these ordinances for
affordable housing. It's been it's getting pushed. Yeah. Um, okay. So, we have that. Um, okay. Next. CLG grant. Um, so Sue and I had a little strategy
session about this um this process, especially since Dave is no longer with us. Um, and what we we did was we took a look at our application and we definitely think that the reason that we
didn't get approved last year was probably because we didn't have a third estimate. And so we took a look at the um the listings and everything seemed to be, you know, in order. Um so we don't think that we need to like reinvent the
wheel so much. Um so we just need to get like a third estimate, >> right? Yeah. >> Are the other two estimates still valid or need to get all get three new ones. >> So then we have to go back Yeah. and
probably have each one >> take a fresh look at it. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm wondering if we should package it differently because ultimately we ended up with like I don't know like a 28,000 and a 78,000 quote and so like what what is reality? So >> yeah.
>> Yeah, maybe if we could get four that would, you know, help us figure out um >> what the cost really is. And then the only other change that I recommended, and this is kind of um it's coming out
of um a discussion I had with some of the people on South Maine, is the idea of researching pulling out these these properties were already in the list, but what I've done is I've gone and pulled it out and put it as a new section and
we're calling it the the draft name is potential new district, historic district of Indigenous and Fle free black communities. And so that includes these properties on South Main Street, a lot of these bungalows,
um, as well as the Lape Farm field. That's, um, right there, um, which is apparently was a a people who grew up in that area found like a a zillion arrowheads in that farmfield.
um because the Lape apparently like right by the river was there was that was their main area one of their main areas. Um and then there's also I also added um in the woods between Maine and
Old Cranberry is um apparently structure the foundation of a black church that had burned down. And so there might be an opportunity to kind of fold all of this into the survey. And if we have enough information
um and signi significance then we might be able to pursue it as like another little district like a south main district. >> I think it would be uh appealing to Shipo as well. Um I mean a lot of what
we are doing is is kind of um fine-tuning of our existing districts which is not very sexy but um >> that's why I think >> if we can enrich the history and really fill it out with these pieces I think it's worth a try.
>> Yeah I think so too. >> It's great. So, um, the one question I had, I don't know if any Brandon you might know, is, you know, we are we've chosen a bunch of these on South Main. There are ones on South Main that are in
between that aren't historic. Do we need to survey those as well? Okay. All right. I just wanted to make sure because you know how we like sometimes we have non you know non-contributings you know I mean maybe that would be later down the road if we Okay.
All right. Cool. Um that's nice. >> So the deadline is March 31st. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, >> and I think one of the questions that we had uh for Gina, we were talking about
the actual RFP process and um, Gina, do you reach out to the firms once we've identified them? >> Yes. Okay. >> Lori, last >> last time Laur even I forget it sometimes. Um, last time Lori like kind
of prepared I guess the statement to send to them or >> we found the old one. Yeah, we have it. >> Yeah. And then I just sent it out to um the three that you guys had recommended. So whoever you want it sent to, I could send to again keep in contact with them.
>> So maybe what we could do is should we have a discussion with them all before they send forward their estimates or did did that happen last year? How would we have a discussion? >> Yeah, I don't know if that's too confus if March it's March 1st is the deadline.
>> March 31st. >> So the process is we send it out. We don't really answer questions. They just >> they kind of work on their proposal and then send it back. >> Yeah, that's probably why we have >> then if we had questions about it, we could get back to them with questions. >> Okay. Mhm.
>> Um okay. So we had um Grub obviously and then we had and so we will go back to them again and ask them to reook at everything again. We had the other company which I forget that they were >> KSNS KNS PSN
>> PSNS sorry. >> Okay. And then is there are there other folks that we want to try to um try to get some additional estimates from? >> Uh yeah, I had supplied some names last year. So I'll find those.
>> Okay. Um I have the names too of a couple people that I had sent forward when we were doing um the pretendics. Um remember we wanted them to like >> Yeah. >> bring in one of those experts and they Yeah, they didn't. So, um I will find that list as well and see if there's
anyone else. >> They need to be a cultural resource management. >> That's who they were. Yeah. Yeah. Cultural. >> Okay. So, okay. So, I think that we're all committed as a team. We, you know, since
we don't have Dave, um but if we could try to, you know, and I'll follow up with Gina and just see if we get answers back and try to get these Um, >> well, we need to create a draft. So, I took a look at the old draft, right? And
I'll take I believe I have the draft from last year. So, I'll try to merge the two and see where we need Lor's help. So, that's kind of my question is when do we reach out to Lori? I know Dave met with her and I kind of joined into some of those meetings last
year. Um, so, >> um, I mean the earlier the better obviously, but she's pretty flexible. So, I think if you kind of discuss with her and then she can take whatever it
is. Do you think it's like kind of a large scale change of it or just minor? No, I don't think it's a I think a lot of the pieces from what I read are kind of unchanged and then you know we would be specific to what we're asking for
this year. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. The only question too is that that signage thing was the question you had about the >> Yes. But I I do want to one more thing about this. I'm wondering if if say the Richard Grub number was 78,000 which is you know beyond the the scope of the
grant. Do we break it up not into phases but maybe into pieces so that maybe two of them get funded to like make you know >> I don't know. Um yeah. So maybe do we want to try to um we have sections here,
right? U we have a group of properties that are um just basically the farm houses outside of the district. Um and that looks like it's uh 10 20 10 20 30
to 40 properties. Then we have the the new district thing is actually really small. that's only like 10. Um, then the former ones that were previously surveyed but not surveyed that that are part of the district,
those that was kind of our miscellaneous but list. That's like another 10. And then additional properties affecting the character of the district. That looks like it's about 20. Um, do we want to try to prioritize the order in which like if we ask if we
break it up like >> Well, we could ask for u a proposal fee breakdown by each of those categories and then you could >> that's a good idea. >> Then then you just decide which ones are the priority ones and do those first.
>> Yeah. I mean the only priority I would say is like 100% urgent is I think the >> Yeah. re-ervey previously surveyed and not surveyed within the historic district like like the firehouse and and 10 maplewood like Yeah. I think I think
that's a huge priority. >> Yeah. >> Um but then the other ones >> but if we just get a break down each category then >> we can mix and match. Also, I'd say yes, as high priority as that is contributing
properties that are being locally designated that aren't in the national district because eventually we're going to want to update the national register listing and any contributing property in the district that they're going to want uh a survey done of it. the non-contributing properties in the
district. We can a more basic description will suffice, >> but we wouldn't be able to update the National Register listing without having all the contributing properties surveyed. >> Okay. Are those those are in here right already? >> Uh they're in there. It's just I'm saying that's as I think that's probably
as high as a priority as like a more detailed just anything that was missed along the way. Yes. >> Okay. And those are mostly and those are here in additional No, these are buffer. Let me see.
So, they would fall within the the last section. Additional properties affecting formally in the in the buffer zone because there's some contributings in here probably. >> Yes. Really? I think only one. >> Okay.
>> The very first one. I don't think the rest of them are likely contributing. >> Big barn. Yeah. >> Based on their data construction. >> Okay. All right, cool. >> Yeah, I think yeah, we'll just do that. Um,
what how how can we support because Sue, I know you have this here and I appreciate you taking this on, but how can we support you? >> Um, do you need an additional committee member to help you?
Not sure because if we have Lori, you know, she's very helpful. So, um, let me see. My first step will be to take last year's, um, scope of work, and, uh, I'll, um, try to combine the two, see
where the gaps are, and distribute for input. >> If you'd like everyone to weigh in, like, yep, >> you know, let us know and we can >> do that. Thank you so much. I uh I didn't have a chance to go over this iteration of the list before tonight,
but I'm already noticing it's missing uh at least one property that's on our master plan list of historic sites. Uh number four on that list. So >> at one point and there's been so many iterations that working and I remember working with Dave so that we had
identified everything that was in the master plan we had gotten on the list and I some you know whatever all the different versions at least one has fallen off. So, uh, I'll I'll go through again and and make sure everything's accounted for. >> Can you use this version? Because what
this is is me working in Excel and I also added in that's where I broke out the new district. >> Okay. >> Um, so if you want to Yeah. look at that one and then send me anything that we need to add. >> Okay. So, yeah, I can own that Excel um
for us. Cool. >> Great. >> Okay. Great. Um, >> can I talk about the signage? >> Yes. Um, so, uh, when I was looking through the, uh, draft scope of work for phase three, now it does say draft, so
maybe that's the explanation, but, um, much of the language in the draft scope of work talks about uh, two interpretive signs to be um, designed, fabricated, and installed. Uh, one for the historic
district. It does not say where and one I'm sorry, one for the village historic district and one for the >> hamlet. >> And so my question uh back to Gina and Jennifer was was this part of our finalized grant
agreement and are we expected to do it? So we don't know the answer yet, but what do we think about that? >> I think it would be good to have it for the hamlet. I think that I don't know if we need it really for the main historic district.
Um I mean it couldn't it could be a good thing. >> Format of the signage >> one of those table things, right? Like >> um I mean it's always good to look at precedents in the town
>> or like the thing that we had up up we actually had one and then I think it did it break and then it got fixed like >> it went in front of the barber shop. >> But this is an interpretive sign is is more like like the the sign that's at
the library. I'm thinking at the um tabletop at the basin. >> Yes. >> Yeah. So it's you interpreted it has signs. It has, you know, maps. It has all that kind of stuff. So, um, >> so we have there's one already at the
the dam, right? >> Yeah. >> And at the cemetery. >> In the cemetery. >> Where would an additional one in the village go, do we think? >> Are those signs specific to the location? Like talking about the dam and
talking about >> Yeah. But but so where where what's the next location? >> Would it have to be on township property because we can't just go sticking signs on uh you know private property. >> I mean
>> yeah either like maybe or maybe in that um kind of in front of the former pizza parlor that in that that intersection's kind of you know been kind of like a main center. Yeah. post office area. Yeah, I feel like it would be nice to have in the the village district but not
100% necessary. But I think the Hamlet one would be very very good. >> That's a whole thing because we'd need to hire a consultant graphic firm to uh what environmental signage to uh design
it and such. I'm not doing another sign project again. No, I understand. >> Oh god. >> So, um, >> what about I'm just thinking about one for town too. I would it would something
in the park like on the water? I'm just Where where do people go? You know, where do people where do people see things? >> Yeah. like at the dam I think you know >> well there's one now but >> that's why I like the main intersection
by where the post office and and like the intersection by the library and the post office right in there >> but there's no public property there right >> there's that sidewalk that bumpy sidewalk thing the bump
>> maybe >> all right let's find out if we actually are required and you know got money to do this. >> Yeah, let's yeah, maybe find out >> go figure it out >> before we spend a lot of money. >> Yeah, it sounds like Yeah, exactly.
>> Okay, good. Um All right, so next we have um the sites outside of the district. I think that we've really kind of covered I don't really think we have anything. Um, oh, we do have one update uh to
share, which is that, um, we sent out letters per everyone's suggestion about the, um, the the house, the Victorian. We sent out letters to the people that lived next to that um area and we
actually heard back from one of them um and they are interested in acquiring um the the structure and moving it, you know, next door. >> Yeah, I know. Well, that's it's a great idea. Super exciting, but you know, um I
think we have to proceed with caution. There's a lot of um a lot involved zoning stuff. Um, so, um, so I I had a call with Barbara about our township leaison about it this afternoon and, um,
we got some, we have to kind of figure out the feedback on how we're going to get the property owner in touch with the right people. >> So, we actually have had a conversation already. We had a webinar. Um, so I I
did I looped in Chips with the owner and uh we had a a three-way discussion about it um where Chips explained what's involved in moving a property. And believe it or not, this is actually a very easy move.
>> There's no power lines, there's no you don't even have to shut down the road because you can just do it in the backyard. Um >> so the biggest challenge I mean the the biggest thing is that um two things we have the affordable housing which is the
most utmost priority and nothing else matters other than that and so it cannot get in the way of the affordable housing schedule. It cannot get in the way of the affordable housing goings on. So that we have to make sure that that
doesn't interfere. Um, there's also zoning. Um, because it's zoned highway commercial, not residential. They did change the zoning to make the Victorian property residential, but this property
is not residential, even though people are living there. the property will be as res >> the >> Yeah, she's saying >> they've changed the zoning to make it residential for the affordable housing, >> but the property where they want
>> the receiving property is not residential. >> It's not residential, but people are living there. >> And so the question is if you put a new structure on, I don't know if grandfathering works. U probably not. Yeah, >> I think of um well, if it it could
either be used for commercial prop uses like it is used like it was used on its current location for commercial uses, not for residential uses. Um or I suspect that the owner could apply to the zoning board for use variance. And one of the reasons it could grant a use variance would be if it improves the
town in other ways, then that would be a reason to grant that variance. And so it's if we can maybe talk to some on zoning to understand if they think this would be something that they'd likely grant variance for, then maybe possibly it could also be used as residential
there. >> I know. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. as is the interest of the receiving property um are they interested in using in what's their use like do they want >> they want to create apartments they would want to create apartments >> so multif family
>> multi family I think so yeah >> that's apartments >> okay >> so it's um it's starting to get a little more above my e my expertise and um so I'm what I'm doing next is I'm you
looping in Barbara. I'm glad that township committee member Al Badawi is here to hear about this too, so that hopefully we can have some folks shepherd the property owner through this um exploration. Um hopefully that they aren't just told like no. Um, and
hopefully there's like maybe it's a how can we, you know, work together because I I think ideally this would be a great win for our town if this could come together because we would not only like
save historic, we would also like improve, you know, we would say help the environment, we would possibly bring more housing to our town. You know, it's been a problem. So like yeah, but it's starting to become bigger than me. So um
so yeah, so that that's where we are with that. But you know, I think it's >> well, we ought to try to find out as much as we can without taking the next step with the owner who receive because they're going to end up needing to hire a zoning zoning council.
>> Yeah, exactly. apply as zoning board >> design team >> and that's their biggest fear because they they're actually the owners of the um >> they own the um the pizza parlor and the enterprise as well >> and they said that they um when they dealt with
>> they said that when they dealt with an addition in in the property they dealt with a lot of nonsense in working with the town like people like saying one thing and then a person going away and then a new person coming in and saying I guess probably
because it was a longterm period. People had different opinions and stuff. So I feel you know it's it's not easy for the people. Um I definitely have heard a little bit about how you know it's it's a challenge. >> So we have to be careful about we don't want to um them start going down a path
and then having problems you know so we're you know I think it's about we're a factf finding mission right now. Um so we'll we'll see how it goes. Okay, >> that's exciting. >> Okay, so um Okay, Hamlet Historic District
certificate of eligibility. It's submitted and Gina got confirmation it's been received. >> What was what was the date of the confirmation? Do you know? >> Because that starts the clock. >> Oh, really? >> Yes. They have 45 business days for
their review. Oo, >> let me check and I'll >> wait for my email to >> Okay. Um, okay. Next. Revolution New Jersey. So, um, have you guys heard any updates, Bobby?
>> Okay. So, um, I wanted to pass on that. Um, when I talked >> I shouldn't say that. Um, >> oh, yeah. >> I think the, um, there should be a fair and the
the historic >> and that's that is happening again >> like maybe we could do a table or something or like an activity >> you do that the business association
will also be involved, but it will be centered around historic >> the house. >> Do we have our have it in us to maybe like we could come up with something fun again? >> Does it have to be all new and exciting
or can we reinvent some of the things we already did? >> I think we should we could reinvent. I mean, it's different folks, you know, but have a think on it. >> Is there a date? Is there a date in mind or not? I'm not sure.
>> Okay. >> Um, it was emailed to us the day. >> Yeah, I heard it was like in miday. >> Yeah. Um >> it was Yeah, I know it's soon, but I
mean I think I think it'd be so so what I wanted to share with you guys is like in talking with um with Mayor with Deputy Mayor Rogers is that you know we have an opportunity with this year with Revolution New Jersey, I mean this is a big year for New Jersey and there's a
lot of things going on in town that we could piggy back on and you So, like for example, there's National Night Out. There's um the mayor's walk to school like where they walk. She walks with the
kids. I mean, we could have like a point out of the interactive map and a QR code or something. You know, there's like things we could do to kind of get ourselves out there a little bit this year and that might be fun. >> Can we get a list of all of those events?
>> Yeah. and their dates and then we start to think >> start to plan it. Yeah. >> Planning around each one. >> Yeah, great idea. Uh she Yeah, she spurted out um that there's, you know, parks is doing stuff. There's the fair. She mentioned the fair. Um we also have
Cranberry Day. Um >> yeah, we pick the ones that would be >> most beneficial to us. >> Memorial Day parade. >> Yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Memorial Day parade. We want to have a float.
>> We can all walk down Main Street with a big bat. >> I'm thinking I'm just thinking costumes. I'm thinking costumes for all of us. >> Oh boy. >> Oh boy. >> Um, okay. So, some fun things we can do. Um, so I say for our next meeting, I say
we we have a think on on that. Um, and I'll try to compile list if you guys hear of anything else that you heard is being planned. >> Yeah. Um, >> I did find the email where it was confirmed. Um, December 29th.
>> Nice. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um, with public outreach, um, we had the, um, tour with assembly men, um, uh, yeah, Tony McCoy. And it was
lovely. She was lovely. Uh we had a wonderful time. We She spent a lot of time at the 1713 house. A lot of time. And bless Brendan's heart because he was he had to sit at Teddy's for like an hour waiting for her cuz she spent so
much time. She was taking so many videos and pictures. She spent most of her time at the 1713 house and then at the hamlet. She loved the hamlet and so she did some videos. Um she put a microphone on me. I'm scared about I what I said.
>> Um I took her over to on South Main and told her about this whole potential district and she was like, "You guys have to do that." And then she was like, she asked me specifically, "What have we been doing in Cranberry for underserved populations in history?" And I'm like,
"Um, you know, they've done some exhibits at the museum, like the historic society, but not the HPC." Um, so I think that um, you know, there's definitely some interest. >> Um, >> she um, she we showed her the Hes
Farmstead um, and how adapt I talked to her about adaptive reuse and the importance of that. Um, you know, we talked about um, you know, just the the opportunities of reusing buildings, cleaning up areas that are kind of undone and instead of building on like
brand new property. Um, we talked about um just like some fun history facts like I showed her the Temperance Fountain. I showed her the old American Hotel. Um, you know, Town Hall, how Town Hall
was about to be demolished and how it was saved. Um, and then we went to Teddy's and then Brendan did an amazing job and he was on camera. So, I don't know if if Brendan's going to be in a video too talking about the interactive map. Um, >> where should we be looking for these
videos? >> I on maybe on her Instagram. She's doing some sort of video for the American Revolution celebration. So, I mean, I asked her videographer to show me >> things before and he said he would, but
I don't know. I don't know. So, keep a lookout. >> Um, but it was a really nice um really nice thing. I think it was very nice that we, you know, engaged the, uh, you know, leaders in the community. Um,
the other update I have is with the library. Um, I've been communicating with the director. Um, and what they're doing right now is they're trying to find from the list that Sue had of the books that we had put in the library. They're going to give us a status on
exactly where they are or aren't. Um and then the feed I spoke with a couple people from the library board um about kind of our conundrum about you know our path forward and they suggested that we speak in the library board meeting which
is on February 12th at 7 o'clock um and just state how um you know we believe that it's important for members of our town to have access to books about historic preservation and just that very high level that was the advice I was given um and I'm I'm not able I
would go you know as chair but I am I have two things that night um I have a concert for my daughter and a birthday for my husband >> so I don't know if anyone else is >> that's pretty important >> yeah two super important things does anyone have time to maybe go I could
even help prepare >> I could prepare like a paragraph to share if anyone's free >> time is February 12th. It's like a Thursday, I want to say. >> Yeah, it's a Thursday. I'll be in San Francisco.
>> Not available. >> Oh, god. >> No. >> No. Okay. You can. Okay. All right. So, I'll I can put something together that you can deviate from. Okay. Thank you.
Um okay other business >> sorry in public outreach still yes >> just two small updates on the interactive map one >> is that we did I did upload the new version of the PDF for six maple wood with the homeowners addendum so that's
up there >> awesome >> and um after demonstrating the map to the assembly woman I uh well um we all know what cell reception is like in cranberry Sorry. Uh, and so it took a few seconds for the map to load and
normally when I'm testing the map, it's on like very fast Wi-Fi and it loads instantaneously. And here it took a few seconds. So I have an idea for how to make that faster. So I've started working on that to kind of load things in the background on mobile phones. So I'll I'll bring put that online probably
before our next meeting. >> That's awesome. And then I did send um her the link. she downloaded it uh or pulled it up in in in Teddy's. Um but also I sent it to her afterwards. So I don't know if maybe she'll be able to like share it. Um that'd be kind of cool if she did.
>> One of the slowest places. >> I know it's true. >> I can't get anything to >> Yeah. Um cool. Any other updates on any of the other topics? Okay. Um Okay. So, uh,
2025 accomplishments and 2026 goals. >> Did you want to >> Oh, yes. Oh, this is this Yeah, we should have we should get this. Um, I made a flyer since I have my uh Canva expertise to try to attract new folks um
to apply to the commission. Did you guys have any thoughts on this? >> I have one. Um, so in the very uh top paragraph it says Cranberry Township is seeking one class C member and one C
class C alternate. >> Yes. >> And only we if we know I'm not even quite sure what a class C member is. And so I think maybe a definition to say that a class C member I believe is a community member. So that so it's not
like an architect that's not an attorney. It's not, you know, it's just an interested community member. So I there is an actual definition. I can find it. >> It's in the code. I can send. >> It's in the code. >> Okay.
Um maybe we should we add it to the section where it's like who should apply. That might be a good place too where it says applications must be a resident and maybe what we say be a resident of Cranberry and maybe we say
something like does not does not require a you know an architect or or architect a degree in or do you think that that would be confusing? >> No. Well, I'm
I'm thinking maybe it in the paragraph up top, it should not say class C. It should just say seeking one resident member and one resident alternate. >> Okay. >> And then down in who should apply be a resident of Lanbury, New Jersey
parenthesis, you know, class C member. So, because it I think someone's going to read that and go, what does that mean? I don't know if I want to be >> Okay, that's really good. >> What do I want to be a class C member? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's really good. I love that.
>> Yeah, that would >> I wanted to mention I noticed this. I noticed this after this is a minor thing. I don't know how you want to word this because it's two se like member and alternates. Member is a um four-year term >> and then alternate is two years.
>> Oh, okay. This is a little awkward that they're not the same. But remember, okay, let me figure out how to clear that in. >> Fouryear. >> Yeah. >> Two year alternate. >> Yeah. >> Two year.
>> Wow. You commit to four year. Yeah. That's scary for people to commit to something for four years. >> It goes by really fast though. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, >> that's great. Otherwise, good.
>> Okay. Yeah. And I'm thinking we post it on our um our website and then um maybe we can hopefully get it into the mayor email. >> Yeah, I was going to say, can we add it to the mayor's email? >> Yeah. >> Or a link to it.
>> Yeah. Okay, perfect. Um, great. What's next? Um, >> accomplishments. >> Accomplishments. Oh. Um, before we get to accomplishments, do we want to talk about goals for next year? I feel like
that's the most important because >> Sure. >> And then we were going to have to think on that. Um, I was thinking we could >> What were our goals for last year? >> They're right there.
>> The goals are right here. >> What? >> Uh, public outreach revolution station hamlet identifying districts and amendments. >> It's on the agenda, but it's also on the back of this was last year's >> report. I believe um there was a suggestion at
the last meeting about uh minimizing the number of goals up to three. I believe I saw that in the minutes and also to um have kind of a champion for each one who is willing to take them on.
So, um, with that in mind, >> so what I was thinking we could do is we could probably fold in Revolution New Jersey into like a just a general public outreach goal. Um, and that would help us streamline
things. Um, >> sure. >> What do you think? >> I think that makes sense. And then I was thinking that we um
try to f like maybe we do one that's sort of focused on main maybe we focus on thematically like managing the district the existing district and then focusing on the growth
of the district or enhancement of >> well what we were talking about before with relative to the CLG >> kind of yeah yeah like so um we make the goal um
it's like one goal would be almost like a communication and that's where we have the public outreach as well as we talked about doing um within public communication with our um you know TC members and
other boards and stuff like that >> and that also includes improvements to the website >> as well, right? >> Yep. >> Just uh if we we're not making this one goal, right? Because those might be different owners for different pieces of
that. It might be a lot for someone to say, "I'm going to own all of those things." >> I know. Yeah. >> And and when I say own, I I think champion's a great word. I think that's a someone who's passionate enough about it that they're going to, you know, get the ball down the field, right?
>> Okay. >> I'm just trying to think through how we can make it into some into three things like you have the communication. >> Let's write down more than we're going to end up with and then winnow it down to the ones we want to make. >> Yeah. I mean what another goal should be
the relocation resoning related >> uh >> for 1274. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. I think that should be a goal for this year. >> That we should do >> um >> reszoning and relocation. >> Yeah. I don't know
>> did 1274. What if what if we focus one okay here's another idea I had what if we focus on like make a goal focused on paperwork >> paperwork reduction
>> paperwork um where it's like it's sort of process and and form related whereas the other one is more of Um >> yeah, actually the all involved paperwork,
>> everything involved. >> I know. >> Yeah. I think um celebrating, you know, um the revolutionary 250. This is the year to do that. That's like our only real chance.
>> Yeah. Our only shot to uh >> to celebrate that for this year. >> So that's true. So maybe it's a general goal. >> Maybe we don't do communication. We just do revolution. >> Contribute to the celebration of revolution. >> 250.
>> That sounds I think that's >> a lot of things. It is there a lot of things that can fall under that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm I'm I'm on board with that. Um Okay. So we definitely know that's one goal. Um,
>> Jen, is there something you can share from the conversations you've already been having about 1274 that you think is maybe the biggest roadblock to us realistically helping preserve that structure this year? >> Um, I mean, I think it's going to be a
matter of whether or not um the family feels like it's doable and whether they're on board with it. And that's I think >> but they've already expressed an interest, right? >> So that's a big I mean >> Yeah. they but but if they find out that like all like the initial feedback I got
was that like oh it's going to have to go to planning board it's going to have to go to our attorney it's going to have to go to our uh our this committee that committee you know if if and so if they start feeling like they're going to hit too many committees and it's going to
and and the town's working against them then they're going to not do it. I think that's what it comes down to because um they you know it's it's it's it's a family business. They they don't want to um this is a business opportunity but
but it can't become a money pit, right? >> But we should let them know that we are willing to >> facilitate help facilitate. >> Yeah. As much as we can. I think there's only so much we can only so much we can do but >> yeah out there.
Do you have any thoughts about this at all from your perspective with like you know the affordable housing and yeah >> what are you thankful um so thank you for letting me stand in
today. Um first of all >> we're glad you're here. It's great. >> I'm happy to be here. I really um I really respect and enjoy the work that you all do. So thank you. the concept right now speaking about a property that the township doesn't even own is the is
the first obstacle. >> And uh once the ownership of that property does pass, then the next element there is that there is an application to the state with regards to
the um uh the the the tax credits. And so the timing of that once that property once the the property is closed on there then there creates uh it's almost
necessary to start working on that property for affordable housing right away. So where's the time in between to then process the movement of the two properties there? I I don't think that you'll find um disinterest or
um uh or interest in in being an obstacle in that um uh in that particular project, but the timeline right now from where we are is so restricted that that may be the obstacle.
>> Yeah. Yeah. That was my initial thought too. >> That may be the obstacle. But um again, just talking about a property that we don't even own yet. Um, and the way the contracts are written up, we can't touch that property, right? >> Um, can I ask uh the design work
underway for the affordable housing? Uh like so I'm trying to think of like timelines like I understand how long it takes to design a project like say of moving 1274 onto an adjacent property and you know
all the site work and all the design of foundations and such and then you know moving the structure there's like you know a year of design work but is is design already underway for the affordable housing site? I'm just thinking of timelines. design is
underway, but if you can um also appreciate the fact that because the township doesn't own the property, they haven't been on the property yet either. So, there's a lot of guessing and speculation and preliminary work, but we haven't even got our boots on the ground yet to know what type of, you know,
material we're dealing with. So there is uh sort of preliminary work because um in order to sort of plan out the property to see that it can sustain the number of units that are going to be on there that preliminary work had to be done and um you know we will now have to
pivot based on what the engineers see when they actually get on the ground. So right now that is not a permitted um act. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I think it's it's complicated because it's like you know that there's going to be time between getting it and
then breaking ground as you will right and you know that I mean it does take a day to demolish something um but it does take a day to move something but at the same time it's probably
>> what's that >> yeah but then um yeah there's planning involved in the in in in demoing and you know so but it does seem like moving is is moving is more complicated and then
for the family it's going to be way more complicated in terms of like how they're going to fit where they're going to fit and work in with the town. I think that's you know >> Yeah. And then then there's that whole piece of um insurance right once it
becomes township property you now have to ensure everything that happens on that property. So even the act of moving that house becomes something that is a um a liability for the town. So I don't know that you have disinterest in these
two structures being reused in another space but the logistics and the timeline may itself be the burden. >> Would would that disinterest continue throughout this process or lack of disinterest I guess is kind of how you
describe it. that will there always just be a baseline lack of disinterest or will there become a point where um the township can make a more forceful decision about we want to help this happen or we don't want it to happen. I think that our priority has to remain first and foremost the affordable
housing and um given how difficult and complicated this whole process has been that is I think where we're going to continue to stay focused on the affordable housing on the project and as Susan mentioned earlier you know like we have very early preliminary plans but we
don't have anything concrete we're going to send the next bit of our energy into that um into that phase I there there's a lot that's going to go on, right? Like even in analyzing a home that you want to move, what are the environmental constraints? Um are you
dealing with stuff in there that shouldn't be moved asbestous or not? So all of that is stuff that is not going to the township is not going to take that on themselves. That is going to be something that this person or people that are interested in moving the house,
they're going to take that on for themselves. Well, um I think I think what I would personally ask is if like I think it would be great if if if the town could I understand the priority of affordable housing, but I do think
that if we have someone who's interested, I think it would be so great if we could try to help champion them as they're doing their due diligence and stuff because, you know, it is going to be ultimately their decision whether or not to do it or Not. Um, but I think,
you know, it would be I think it'd be good to just for our town and for our reputation, for our, you know, business owners like to just try to meet them, you know, where they're at and, you know, try to accommodate their questions
and stuff like that in in a like positive um way. That would be, I guess, my my personal ask. Um, >> and I I appreciate that ask and you know the township is made of five very independent bodies and so you may have
um you know uptake on some people and and not with others. I I really don't know where anybody sits because this is this was very brand new news to us today. Um, I think it's going to be very important for that um, the person or the group of people that are interested in
this moving these two structures onto their land to really ascertain whether the project they have in mind can move forward or not. You know, we're talking at a about a property that is probably zoned for a home and now they want to put these two structures and make it a
multiple, you know, multiple dwellings. So, can it be zoned for that or not? And I know that um you know both zoning and planning is rather strict on that. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's that's one of the other that's >> it's a huge part of it. It's a huge part
of it. And it may it may be that they um you know make the choice to move the structures just to look at them because they can't you know then renovate it and rent it out to people. I remember cases that came forward where we had people that had their homes and then they had
barns and there was conversation about, you know, can we make these barn structures that people can live in and put a bathroom and then make them dwellings so to speak and there was sort of >> um, you know, quite a bit of a kurfuffle about well then that could be a rentable property and do we allow that? And so
>> that is going to be I think from my perspective I think that's going to be the biggest hurdle. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But all I mean I say this all to say that um I appreciate that we're thinking outside the box. >> Yeah. >> Right. And so I I know it's been a a
goal for the HPC to preserve um these structures and um you know for for what can be done I think that you will find support and and where it just doesn't sort of meet
um the timeline or where it affects the affordable housing project. I think that's where there will be the disconnect. Yeah. >> Yeah. We got it. >> Yeah. No, we got it. >> All right. I will be, by the way, at that uh library board meeting on February 12th. So, I will see you there because I'm on the I'm on the board there, too.
>> Oh, cool. >> Okay, >> cool. Perfect. >> Um, thank you so much. Um, so, okay, goals. Uh, >> I still keep clothes on before. >> All right. We also have still I hate I
hate to bring this up. We still have to deal with the uh the the Plainsboro Road farmhouse all of that language and terms and conditions that issue still open. It will still come back to us. >> Sure. >> Uh this year. >> So we are assisting the township
moving forward with say demolition but >> the terms and conditions. >> The terms and conditions. >> Yeah. The terms and conditions. Um yeah, >> one other followup that um one of our goals from last year was the uh
application for certificate of eligibility to Shipo, but I'm sure there will be some followup as far as if they have questions or, you know, what do we do with a certificate of eligibility for the Hamlet if we
actually get it? Um things like that. So, >> yep. Um okay. Um I think we we may still want to have this, you know, the buffer issue um as a goal.
Um getting that shepherded through um CLG grant. Okay. Anything else? >> More than three. Yeah, it's more than three. That's why I was thinking like we got to try to make
it theme more thematic. What's that? >> I don't know that you get it that >> Yeah. Yeah, I know. Because I'm counting. >> I think it's better to be a little more better to be a little more specific than too general >> then then this way it becomes an actual
kind of checklist. Okay, we did that. We did that. We did that. >> Who is the audience for the goals? Is it just us? Is it is it the state? Is it the township or >> I think it's I I think it's for us and then I think we do share it with township. Um so I think it's good. I
mean I like how like we had our meetings following our goals this year and I think we should keep doing that. Um because it it's very easy like for that's why I don't worry about doing our accomplishments for the year because like I feel like we kind of like have that done because we laid it out based
on um >> that um >> so okay so I have CLG grant I have the buffer the 1274 or yeah >> and affordable housing I guess um
because we I I learned that that the other affordable housing structure is is really old like is like colonial old. Um the one on D road at the intersection of D road. >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. >> Um
>> Grand South River. >> So I don't know if there's a way to like document that before it goes down. >> Well, it's part of our part of our ask for the CLG grant, I think. >> Yeah. Um okay. then the terms and conditions, the Hamlet
um application and Revolution New Jersey. >> Yeah. I think what we do is we call Revolution New Jersey is kind of taking the place of communications this year. I say we just focus on that. >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Um so that's one,
two, three, four, five. >> Five goals. Okay. I can draft that up for our next meeting um for us to look at and bless um accomplishments. Is there anything that
we want to highlight that we think was our biggest accomplishment this year? >> Surviving >> surviving >> surviving might be next year too. >> Yes. >> Sorry.
Um, I mean, I think that we still achieved our goals and we had some significant like market events or township events come in and, you know, could have distracted us and we achieved
almost all of our goals um with the exception of the amendments goal. Um, and that was something that I think was beyond our control. you know, we did everything within our power to get that done. Um, so I think that is a
huge I think when I put when we put this together for TC the report. I mean, should we should we schedule when that goes when we go in front of the >> Yeah. Um, we have to make like a draft.
>> We have to make a draft of it. Last year it went in front of them March 3rd. >> Okay. >> So, we got a little time. I can I can do kind of this front part with all the data. >> That would be amazing. >> Yeah. >> And then if you just want to kind of >> Yeah. finesse >> do the back kind of and I can help with whatever.
>> Okay. >> Um good. >> Okay. >> Okay. You guys, I think this is going to be a good year because first of all, let's make it fun with Revolution New Jersey. Secondly, the the Hamlet is kind of
going in its path. It's going right. the CLG grant. We got a plans and and thanks to Sue, you know, we we're working on and we're not reinventing the wheel here. >> Yeah. >> The buffer is in Liz's hands. >> The 1274 and affordable housing,
>> the terms and conditions, those are the two ones that I think are going to be the biggest challenge for us. Um, but you know, maybe we maybe you guys let's have a think on who might want to champion each one of these because if there's there's five of us
and five goals. >> Well, I would >> I' I'd probably be interested in trying to take on the 1274. >> Really? >> Okay. >> Believe it or not, >> okay. >> Yeah. did at some point and
>> I can help on the terms and condition. I mean I would want to be involved with that condition. >> I think one of the terms and conditions I was thinking about it over the break like I think one of the terms and conditions should definitely be that we need to be they need to put an application through to us on what they're doing on that on the new
>> the replica. I think we need to see that then they need to come in front of us and see and we need to see it. >> Agree. >> Yeah. Earlier in the year, we talked about next year, this year, 2026, we would put effort towards organizing the HPC section of the website better so that it
was easier for um for residents to to find things. >> Yes. >> Um is that something you would want to help with this year? Yeah. >> Okay. >> Now that your applications are almost all in, you think you could carve out a little time?
Um, is there anything we can do to support you in getting this going? Like I know, um, I think Guy and Sue, you guys, it was it you you offered a little in, you know, expertise or >> for what? >> For the website. >> Oh, I have no website experience.
>> I can help you. >> Not be the right. >> Yeah, I can help you. I've done a lot of websites. >> Say what? Let's start by looking at it and thinking if you're like a homeowner or >> you >> Yeah. what makes sense, what doesn't
make sense. Yeah. Let's start with looking at what's not right. And I can help you too with like um yeah, I' I've done a lot of websites and stuff. Brendan, you know how to work with the web people down hall. >> Yeah, absolutely. And so I can help too.
Emily, I think maybe one of the first steps will be an inventory of what's up there now. Kind of how it's organized, what things are linked to, how they're described, and then we can start to figure out, are they or is it organized in a way that makes sense? And are we linking to things we don't need to link
to anymore? You know, just kind of whatever um makes sense from someone using the website. >> Yeah, >> that would be so Thank you. Thank you. Maybe I would suggest um looking at other towns and seeing if there are any
websites you really like and that we could uh emulate. >> Yeah, you could look at Princeton. What do they have? >> Yeah. What is What are the other one? Wasn't there um another town we thought was like a best practice? >> Was it There was
>> Allentown was >> Glen Cove Montlair. Maybe >> Montlair. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Or Glen, was it Glenn Glenn Ridge? Glen Cove. >> Well, Glen Ridge might
>> I don't know if I I looked at that. >> Cool. >> Given there. >> Um Okay. So, I have one one last item. Um which is the town hall doors. >> Yeah. >> Um Barbara asked us if um they're doing
budget stuff next month. Do we have any thoughts on where they might procure the stick on moldings and it's going to cost? >> So last meeting I I took pictures. So
the >> the doors are a company called Alloy and Okay. And >> um I I did some research on their website. So the sad news of it is they actually have a standard door
That's that door with the molding on it. So, we could have bought the right thing in the first place. But that being said, I I I I did I did send an email to them
to ask and they have haven't had a response, but I did send an email to them to ask if it's possible to >> exchange, >> not exchange, but to um retrofit these doors with the molding, if there's a way
that they that could be done. >> Okay. >> So, I will continue to I'll follow up on that. Yeah, Barbara wanted to know like if there's an amount of money like we could budget for um doing something or if there's like >> Well, I mean >> stick on.
>> I'd rather have I'd rather have the manufacturer of the door make a recommendation. I agree. >> Because I don't want to avoid the >> the warranty >> warranty of the door because if we go to Home Depot and buy some molding and slap it on there, they could, you know, be a problem. So, I will follow up again with
NASA and see if I don't get a response. >> Awesome. I appreciate it. She said that um >> Yeah, but I was like when I opened up the website and I looked I said >> that's the door we should have gotten. >> God, >> it's like I mean it's not fancy. It's just
>> a panel. So, >> yeah, >> it would have been >> um Okay. So, thank you, Guy. Yeah, if we could get an answer back by the end of the month, that was what she asked. >> I'll see what >> um we can put a placeholder in. Probably
not. >> It probably wouldn't be in our budget, right? It would just be >> No, that's what Barb's asking for what how much she should ask for. >> I'll try to find out. It's probably not more than a couple thousand dollar. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, but I I'll see if I can
>> Okay. Um Okay. Commission training. Uh, does anyone have any training updates or >> none? >> Okay. >> Um, I did get a not uh I think Mayor Nem sent me that the um the the conference
they have the they sent out a promotional email on the dates for the conference in June. >> Um so I guess one thing is you know think through if anyone wants to go um to the conference this year. >> I always go always go. >> Okay. All right. that taken care of.
Um, good. Uh, any new homeowner letters? >> No new homeowner letters this month. >> Okay. >> Um, minutes. >> Where Where's Dave when you need them? >> I know. I already We first I mean, what is this? We get a window question then
now we cg question. Yeah. Sorry. >> Sorry. >> They looked okay to me. Put it that way. I ran through I have no comments.
>> Yeah, these were really great. Um, and it was great that you sent this to me like um cuz what I did was I actually created a little a little cheat sheet too with I had a I created a little cheat sheet for um >> our township leaison too to share with the whole township. Do >> you want me to keep doing that?
>> Yeah, because then we can like you know already just accomplish our communication goal and get our minutes of the minutes out to everybody. >> Perfect. >> So I'll make a motion to accept the minutes. >> All right. Second.
>> All right. Roll call for the December 16th minutes. Miss Sutmire, >> yes. >> Mr. Guyer, >> yes. >> Miss Ryan, >> yes. >> Mr. Hull, >> yes. >> And Miss Marlo, >> okay, thank you. Motion passed. Okay, great. Um, so public comment, any
anything from our public? Okay. Uh, discussion. Anything else we want to discuss? Okay. Make a motion to adjourn. So move. >> Second. >> All in favor say I. I.
>> Thank you.