I'm just waiting for the clock. >> Okay. This Historic Preservation Commission meeting being held on February 17th, 2026 at 7 p.m. Statement of adequate notice pursuant to the Sunshine Law. Adequate notice in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act was provided on January 5th, 2026 of
this meeting's date, time, and location. The agenda was mailed to the Cranberry Press and Home News Tribune, posted on the Township Bulletin board, mailed to those requesting personal notice, and filed with the municipal clerk. Roll call and volunteer hours, please. Miss Sutmmeer
here. Six. Mr. Guyer >> here. Two hours. >> Mr. H >> here. Four hours. >> Miss Ryan >> here. Two and a half hours. >> Two and a half. And Miss Marlo >> here.
>> Here. All right. Um, thank you. We have a quorum. >> All right. Great. Yay. >> Hi. Okay. So, um we will start with why don't we start with the um applications of minor and ordinary maintenance.
>> Yeah, I forgot it's just me again. >> Okay. Um yeah, so um 33 South Main Street did replace their roof previously. Um so they put in an ordinary maintenance application. Um,
and yeah, they were just replacing their asphalt roof with the same asphalt roof >> and that was it. >> Cool. >> All right. Great. >> Can I ask a question though? Um, >> yeah. >> I think it's 158
North Main. the big that big house with the empty lot next to it on the left of I drove by the other day and there was uh siding the entire one side of the building looked like the siding is being replaced. I don't know.
>> 158 North. >> Yeah, it's on the right side as you drive out of town. >> Yeah, >> it's a big house. beautiful old house with a big front porch and I don't know is is that
>> is that a historic property? I can't >> I think it was 158 >> where the >> familiar I wonder >> might be but it just >> What is the address where u Steven Bolano is helping the owners because
they had the contractor mess up their walls and >> it's right there. It's almost there. Is it 158 or is it the rear? You mean the rear's house? >> I'm pretty sure it's 158. >> Yeah, I'm trying to remember there. I would have to check
>> that. >> I'm wondering that is the house that is >> the Betty Rock house. >> The because it's not on our list that's being added and so therefore >> it's probably already there. >> Was it was it
>> was it? >> It's not a new house. Was it? So here's the Goodwin. That's that one. There's this little guy. And then there's the big one here in Weirdance, the farmhouse, >> right? That That's 158, isn't it?
>> Yeah. >> Backs up the silver. So it might >> Did it ever come in for >> Well, they were the ones that um where the contractor >> mucked everything up and now >> Yeah. And the Galisanos are are
>> fixing their situation. >> Okay. >> So, that was her. Maybe it was >> I think they had the sighting. >> Yeah. You may not have been there. >> Maybe it wasn't here. >> Yeah. >> Okay, that's fine. >> Yeah, they're doing they're doing their best cuz he he they came in with a
>> tons and stuff of like work with the the roof and the and the slate and the >> everything. What started as a roof project became like an everything project. >> Yeah. Not good.
>> That's it. Okay. >> I was like, "Oh, no. >> Yeah, it's getting our heart." >> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Good. >> Okay. So, um All right. So, old
business. Um, we have the amendments to the Cranberry Historic Village District. And I guess the biggest question is, um, if you heard anything back from Liz? >> No. Um, she presents her report,
uh, having to do with the affordable housing uh, redevelopment of one of the new sites. Um, she presents it in a few weeks, but she just finished it this week, so I'll follow up with her again. It would be really great to get that
>> finished. And I know she said that she updated like a lot from what >> I think it's most it's like very very close. I think she had like one or two slight questions left for you too. >> Okay. >> So I'll try and get her to send you guys that this week.
>> Okay. Um for our CLG grant um we a few things have happened. So, Brendan, thank you for um getting back on the list. Um, what else happened? I met with Wayne Wittmann and I got some really good
information about some of the areas in South Maine and the lot and the plots where um the old black church was, some potential Native American burial grounds um and where all those tax areas are.
So, we have them now in the spreadsheet. Um, and I think the only thing left and then Sue, you had done like updates to the document, right? >> I had started it. Yeah. Okay. Sure. How to insert this like new
>> piece and that is like the biggest uh Well, oh, you mean the the language about it or >> Yeah. How to add it to the >> So, we had talked last time about kind of itemizing, right? And having And that way we can press things out. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Um
so, uh >> can you put your mic on? >> I can put my mic on. Sorry. Um >> yeah. So, um we need some language. >> Okay. I can probably help with that. I >> I'll take a look at what Lori had
already written for the other pieces and Okay. You know, see if we can craft something. Um, and you met with Lori last >> So, I was gonna meet with Lori, but we missed each other. Um, I'm meeting with her next Monday.
>> And she said that she kind of pushed back and said that she doesn't have time to write the whole thing >> and I explained to her that we don't really need anything written, but we need to understand like how to go about submitting it from an admin perspective.
Um, so hopefully she can kind of talk us through. So, um, maybe what we can do is like try to put everything onto a thumb drive. So, when I go in and see her, like maybe I could hand everything to her on a thumb drive and she could either walk me through how to submit it
or if she it's faster for her to do it for >> You want it finalized by next Tuesday because we have a whole month. >> Oh, I mean, well, we still have to get the uh prices. Yeah. But at least get a lot of the information together. Yeah. Yeah.
>> Um, so then Okay. So then the other big thing is I guess we have to get the language to the three people for getting a new quote again. >> So in the minutes I saw we were talking about doing four >> four. Yes.
>> Um and so I went through all the uh meeting um the emails from last year. Okay. with Dave and Lori and me and Robin and Gina. And um
uh last year we had um requested prices from Richard Grub and from PSNS >> and also from Leah whatever they are. >> And did they decline to give a cost? That was my impression.
>> Um they I don't think they ever got to it. And the the sentiment was basically like they don't typically do those so I wouldn't recommend Right. >> Yeah. >> I don't think we'd get anything back. >> I found the email where I had
recommended three other firms that do cultural resource surveys. >> Awesome. >> Um and see if you're familiar. Um there's Connelly and Hickeyi. Uh there was Eastern Architects and there was the
third one. It used to be E2PM and then they were bought by Langon which is enormous. Yeah. >> Uh but I personally know like the cultural resource guy. So I can send you the uh firm names and their contact information. Yes. And that way we can at
least ask if they're interested. Um >> Yeah. And we just need like >> spreadsheet. So I have updated spreadsheet. >> Yeah. That >> so then we just need like to update that. Yeah. a document that we use and stuff. >> Yeah. >> And I'm happy to help with if you can help.
>> I did start it. So maybe I can wrap it up this weekend and we can have it ready for Lori. >> Okay, cool. Yeah. And then and then um Gina will send out to the people >> and then yeah, Lori, I'll work with her on trying to figure out how to go about
what it what the process is of uploading to Sage. I think >> Yeah, I have no idea. I have no idea >> and I haven't even tried yet. Like I don't know. So um there I think I had asked whether I should reach out to Shipo
and or if if you want to Jennifer and kind of ask David Renitzki I think is the the CLG contact now and kind of ask them what uh what would strengthen our application or
maybe what you know the problems were last year. Um, >> okay. >> Uh, I did see a an email from Lori where she said she had reached out to David last year to ask a question and the
response had been that um that Shipo was very excited that Cranberry was submitting a CLG application. I'm like, well, that's sad. >> So, but um yeah, maybe we can make sure that it's it's all the pieces. Um, I
could reach who was the name of that gentleman you thought? Um, >> David Renitzki at Shipo. It's R N I T S K Y. >> R E N I T I reit.
>> Okay. >> There's a Y. >> That should Okay. >> Okay. I will reach out to him to just kind of say, "Hey, here's what we're doing to update our application. Do you think that this is going to help us? Like, do you think that there's any other information that the state might
ask for? >> Yeah, >> I'll ask it in that context. Like, yeah, >> good idea. Um, perfect. Okay, cool. So, we have a plan. Um, what else? Um, okay,
so identifying historic sites outside of the district. Um, okay. So, we haven't had any updates on the 186 the 170 147 Plansboro Road.
Um, but one thing I was thinking is that it would be good for us to start drafting what we think those terms and conditions should be. >> Do we have any precedent for that? I I have no idea what that would be. >> We saw what they put as theirs.
>> Duh. I would not take that as a as a model. I'm kind of thinking that rather than being reactive, what if we're proactive and give them what we think they should be? Um, >> it probably makes sense to do that.
>> It does, but I'm not sure what the model, you know, >> would be nice to have something >> as a precedent to look at. >> Yeah. No, we're we're we're making it up. This is the first time our town has ever done this. So, >> but I imagine there are terms and
conditions for, you know, similar real estate transactions that happen all the time in the legal world. >> Well, I can start to do some research and see >> that'd be awesome. >> Okay. >> I can find some precedent or
>> something start working up some thoughts about it. >> Yeah. The only thing I I thought would be I think really good is would be for an application to come into HPC. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like at minimum. Yeah.
>> But even then we wouldn't have any standards to apply because >> well Secretary of the Interior >> Well, let me see. >> Yeah. But yeah, maybe do some research and see about if there's other
situations where we could um take a look at that. >> Okay. >> Um okay, overlap with affordable housing. Um, so one thing is the pro I
got a call from Chips um and I was it was confirmed to me that the um the property the newest property that's on um South River Road and Die Road is in fact 1786.
Um and so since that's like really really old and apparently the property is not in bad shape. it was being used by like a lawyer and a building supply company. Um that you know there might be an opportunity especially since there have
no been no plans presented yet for what they're doing yet uh to try to get ahead of it. Um, and so I did when I met with Wayne Whitman on um on on South South Main Street, I mentioned this to him and
asked him if he could ask the developer to see about if there's a way to incorporate it in to their plans. And one thing I learned too is that um the original house is actually kind of quite small. There's a huge part of it as an
addition. And so we could even like let that go, you know, but if they just at least save that original, the OG colonial part. >> What's the street address? Do we know? >> 1260 >> 1260 >> 1260 >> South River. >> South River.
>> Um it's hard to see from the street, but it's it's there. Um so that's something that's happening. Um, and then the other thing that's going on is I I went on a call with the the neighbors of the um
the gentle healing spa site and they are putting together plans and it's very I'm really excited because it's like the house actually fits perfectly in their backyard of the spot
like Legos perfectly And if you and it actually I think could make the area look better because right now that area like I I bring my dog there. It's sort of like a random hodgepodge of stuff and there's like random like you know stuff
that's paved and just space. Um this would actually give like more of a purpose. There'd be like a court like a a green space in between the things and then maybe even an opportunity to build a walkway to the affordable housing and
and stuff. And they want to >> they want to if they can move both of the properties, both of the houses. >> Yeah. And they found a spot for both. So the big question is um can this be done in the amount of time
that they have plus you know um you know will it go smoothly and then of course cost you know for them because it's a business investment for them to create these um apartments. Um but hopefully it it will go okay. they're going to go try
to go into the design review committee. Um, and they're going to they're they're supposed to have a call with the township attorney and then they eventually and then if they those two things go well then they will move into like planning board applications.
So that's that's where it is. They say a prayer. >> Does the zoning work? >> The zoning is not right now. The zoning is complicated and weird because like right now it's being used as residential
grandfathered and now it's highway industrial but then they just changed the zoning in that spot for housing next door. So they could possibly like request that to be
changed. And I don't I'm I'm hoping that planning will see that as like not >> Yeah. Within the context it shouldn't be. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's not our decision, of course, but I mean I think if we want to recommend that to them, I think that it
would be like >> Yeah. So the owners are proceeding with >> an applic um pictures um of everything. site plan. Okay, that's >> and yeah and it's it's cool and um
>> and so now they have to do like um you know they have to have design review which is a group of of everybody and then um >> and they talk to the current owners of the de you know the >> oh that's another thing they're doing. They're talking to the owner, which is
some sort of weird real estate conglomerate thing, to see if they can get in there because they want to like look at it and see like how many units they can get >> they can make out of. >> They think they know how many they could like they've been estimated based on the square footage. Um but um but yeah,
they're going to see if they can, you know, >> it's great >> figure out how to get inside. >> It would be great. >> Yeah, it would be great if they can if this could happen. So, um, and I think that if we're all supportive, you know, that's I think helpful, you know. So,
yeah. >> If of the two, uh, single family homes that are adjacent to 1274, this is the one that's not immediately next to it. This is the the one on the other side. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Uh, the one that's closer or in between. Uh, are they
>> I never heard from that owner. >> Okay. Um, we sent them a letter, but I didn't hear from them. Um, I don't know what their story is, but they apparently in that block, everyone's all inter.
>> It's like a father and sons and they all own like different >> Well, I just wanted to um make sure that they were planning for if they have to move the home the buildings across someone else's property to get there. >> Yeah. They they they think they can get that. Yeah. And they own like land
behind it all as well. Um, so they own like the path. >> Yes. Okay. >> Um, >> great. >> But yeah, that's a good point. I'll make sure I bring that up. Yeah, I tried to, what I did was within my confines of, you know, HBC, you know, I just sort of,
you know, said, you know, here are some things that I've heard in other meetings that, you know, you could anticipate like they're going to ask about like where water goes. They're going to ask about um you know the town's not going to want to have any like responsibility for anything that could go wrong in the
move like um what else did I mention? Um environmental is going to want to make sure that we don't take out too many trees. There's apparently a really like a hundred-year-old oak on the property and they're keeping it and they're keeping it in their design like cuz it's
a >> really tree but you know if they take out any other trees like they're going to have to figure out that >> um >> something that could maybe strengthen their I guess I'll call them
applications to the township is if following the move and saving of this home uh if it is actually then subject to a preservation restriction more than it is now. So, like if the if they were willing to accept something like the
easement that was just >> something like what was on Plainsboro Road, >> uh then I think that might strengthen their applications to the township because then they'd be making that commitment to the township historic preservation and that it's not just you're giving us the ability to build
more on this lot than we're allowed to build. in exchange, we're going to be committing to preserving the structure uh within same sort of >> That's a nice idea because like your planning board might be worried that like they're going to do all this and
then decide to like build on top of it or something or like um tear it down in the future to build more taller things or whatever. >> Yeah. Um, so if we That's a great idea to do like some sort of um see about you
know a historic preservation. >> Yeah. Cool. Great idea. Any other thoughts? Um, okay. Great. Um, I haven't heard any updates on the Cranberry Station Hamlet
COE yet. I'm not going to harass them. I'm going to let them be. Um I think they had like 90 days so they still I think have time to >> what was it? >> Look at it. >> 45 business days. >> Yeah.
>> For a for a typical review. But my impression was that the the group that gathers together to review like you know the certificates of eligibility and national register nominations and such like only gets together every once in a
while maybe quarterly. So >> yeah. But it would be nice to know. >> Yes, indeed. Um, maybe give it one more month and then we can uh check in and see.
Um, Revolution New Jersey. Have you heard anything? >> We have a bunch of stuff coming up. Um, cool. Let's see. February 23rd, five signings of the Declaration of Independence Lecture by
Rondary Library 7. Um March 8th, Revolutionary Liz traveling exhibit revolutionary war museum. >> Nice. >> April 17th, Bersto.
>> What was the name of it again? called burgers, beer and stories. >> April when >> April 17th >> April April 17th. >> Cool. I'll be there.
>> May 17th, the East Jersey East Jersey cottage dedication. It'll be lecture by Dr. David July 17th and life challenges in central Jersey during the revolution 7 o'clock at Cranberry Library.
>> Wow. >> House tour on September 26. >> Yep. >> And I think that's basically it. Wow, lots of events lot. >> Is there anything that we can do to support that effort >> from Yeah. Does the committee need help
with anything from that? Uh >> um presial. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. >> Great. Fantastic. Um, okay. Public outreach. Um, so we
posted a flyer um with our two, you know, about our two openings. It's been posted onto the township website and I believe it's going out, if it hasn't already, into the mayor's email and stuff like that.
Um, if you guys have any other ideas on how we can get the word out, I was thinking about I mean it'd be great if someone hears this meeting and could share the flyer on social media or like just anything we can do to get the word out. Um,
>> well, we could both know about Cranberry, right? >> Yeah. Maybe someone who's hearing this can >> I can do that. >> Yeah. >> Be anonymous. >> Anonymous. Um, it's in the kiosk, too, downstairs, which is nice. They did that.
>> Have there been any any nibbles, any applications? >> Any yet, but I think it just recently went out in the mayor's update, so hopefully soon. >> I mean, one opportunity is when we do the year-end report is to talk about how
we have the two openings and really emphasize the excitingness of of joining. Is that date set for which TC meeting that is? >> No, I big topic. >> We have it to look at. Um, >> I don't know where I put mine,
>> but um, yeah, typically like somewhere in March, but I just have to we're going to look at it tonight and then >> we'll figure it out. >> Uh, I'll send it to them to schedule. So, >> um,
any updates on the website or the interactive map, guys? >> Any updates? Yeah. Here. Come on. >> Please come on up. >> The right button. >> Yeah. Perfect.
>> Um, okay. To start, um, in like the middle section of the website, I thought that we could move like the commission members to the top so people know who's like a part of the
um, the board. And then with the calendar, I know we have like a little calendar on the side. I like went through it and it seemed that like most of the events like were just our monthly meetings. So I thought maybe we could just list each monthly meeting so it' be like easier for people to see it if they want to come
>> and the the revolutionary New Jersey stuff to the calendar too. >> Yeah, that's a great >> Yeah. try to incorporate more events than just horror stuff to promote like other historic preservation things. Yeah. Nice.
>> Um and then I saw Mont Claire's website. I thought theirs was really good. >> Okay. >> Um and then one section I liked was like a section dedicated just like for how to file an application, which will probably be beneficial for the homeowners. Um, and just like also what they had was
like a little section called prepare and file an application and they had a checklist to like make sure that you include all these things in the form. And then also um they provided like information for um anything additional
you have to add if it's a specific type of application or specific circumstances. And I thought maybe that would be helpful because like a lot of times I think like there's like special circumstances regarding the houses and where they're located and stuff like that. So that would be helpful for
homeowners and that's mainly it. Yeah. >> Do we know what um with the website Brendan you might know because I remember you were working with it the what are we what are the confines of this like
platform? uh like do we I know we can't we we have to do things within that we can update ourselves right um or that don't require like a web designer or anything like that do you know anything about like what
that >> would be >> there's one of the employees of the township I is responsible for managing the website and I think a lot of things can be done without a web designer per se right? Putting in content, text,
links, things like that. Uh I I think he's well equipped to be able to do make those sorts of changes. Uh there's probably some limitations on layout, but I I've seen pages on our Township website where it's kind of a blank slate within the confines of the box on the page.
>> So it's it's like um so we could move these we could probably move some of these boxes around. Um, and like the way we have like the stuff on the left, like we could adjust some of that information. >> I think a lot of the stuff on the left
could be adjusted. Um, either by moving them out of the left and into a a subpage, I guess we'll call it, or um, yeah, I I think a lot of the content can be adjusted. >> Yeah. The impression I had gotten, I
think, from Robin was that um it was it was difficult to get changes made. Like the request could be made, but it wasn't like instantaneous. >> Sure. >> Yes. So, I'm wondering if we
make all our requests at once. >> Yeah. >> As opposed to peace meal. Um so, kind of make a laundry list of things we'd like updated. But are we good with the do we feel like aside from that are we good with the
navigation of it like the way we have it set up? I don't think so. I think it could be better. I think we have things listed alongside each other. Some of which are more important than other things, but they're listed equally.
>> So I I I think we could do better. >> I think so, too. I feel like we one thing that I know I did with with our business like we made a subscriber like dashboard is we created at the very top like
almost like a master navigation by category so that like you come to the page and then you can either and then there's a link that will jump you to news announcements, calendar, agendas, minutes. So you don't have to like
scroll all the way around and look all around like >> that might be more than they could do on the website. >> You think? >> I do. Yeah, that that's starting to get into programming which they're kind of limited changes. >> All right. So then in that case then
yeah, we might just want to work on updating this stuff here on the left. Yeah. Um, so based on what you saw with Mont Clair and stuff, did you want to maybe like
take a crack at like not making a new site, but like laying it out like in maybe in like a word document on how it might, you know, we might get it, you know, more user friendly. >> Yeah. Like maybe have like sections that they could put in and like information.
>> Yeah. and then we can meet with the gentleman and and town hall and see like what's um easy to be done ourselves or what's not. We know >> one thing you can look at to know how possible it would be on the Cranberry website is poke around other parts of
the township website, not just the HPC part, but you might find other examples of page layouts or organizations or whatever and then recognize that something like that could work for something within the HPC section because if we see it done on another part of the site, then it can be done for the HPC
too. >> Okay, great. Yeah, I'm looking here for example. I see like it's interesting. Housing and development committee has they have their they have text on there. They have news on their right, minutes over here. Um
planning board. They kind of actually they kind of follow the same layout as us. Yeah, it might be a good way for us to figure out how much we can um adjust things. clock winding committee.
Yeah, they follow what we have. Okay, cool. Yeah, I we're open to, you know, especially if you see like what Monontlair does, you know, how we might be able to um use that as a best practice. That'd be great. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
Um, okay. So, oh, library program. So, we have an update on that. Um, we got from uh the library director. We had her um team look at the list of books that we
had most recently donated into the library and they kind of tracked down where everything was. So, the great news is that almost all the books are still there. They're just in different places. >> Almost. >> Yeah, we have a few that have gone missing. And you know, again, she
reminded me that like I guess after we had done our program, they had created a policy. Um, and so she kept referring back to that policy and I I didn't want to say anything, but I mean it's like, you know, the policy came after we had done what we've been doing. We didn't
know about the policy, but it's fine. They have policies. That's and and what we'll do is um you know I think from now on we'll keep a look at this policy and we have an opportunity to meet with her
uh next next Friday. Um so I know Sue you can be there. I actually was so busy scheduling it according to everybody that I forgot that I'm going to be at a field hockey tournament. Um, so if there's anyone else who's
available to come and meet, Bobby, I don't know if you're around at next Friday at 11. Um, but she, you know, she wants to work with us. She wants to partner with us. I think, you know, she's she's she thinks
that, um, there's a lot of great opportunities. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah, >> that'd be great. um she thinks there's a lot of great opportunities for us to like sponsor programs and programs she has said are
the way in which the library has really been connecting with more people. Um and you know, how can we work with them within the confines of their their policy and their just in general, you
know, um goal of trying to connect with um members of the community about historic preservation. Um, if you look and see one thing is that it looks like books about maintenance and upkeep of historic properties were the ones that
sort of got cold out a lot. And I think it was because um, they weren't being taken out or used. And so, you know, we might want to talk with her about, you know, how else can we reach these people? How else can the
library help us, you know? Yeah, >> as a town, you know, representing the town. Um, >> but the the the reason we requested a meeting was to talk about the books that
we do already have >> as opposed to uh sponsoring programming in the future. So, we need to resolve the fate >> Yes. >> of these books. >> Most definitely. In fact, what I could
maybe do is um I could put together like an agenda for you guys to follow. So that way then since I can't be there, at least you know, we kind of can cover like I can lay out kind of just a one pager on like the topics in a nice, you know, friendly way. Um
>> available >> where is it? Is it on >> It's It's on their web page. Yeah. Yeah. On their website. I mean, she basically said they don't accept donations anymore. >> Is um the library director uh Brooke
>> Batista Batista. >> But basically, they're not they're not taking donations anymore. >> And we need to find another home for the books we have. And if if we're going to continue to have that line item in our budget,
>> we need to find a place for the books to go. >> Exactly. Yeah. that's public facing that is accessible. >> And then I you know I I I don't know how many more times I I feel very passionate about educating our youth about historic preservation. So I do hope we could like
explain to her that you know National Historic Preservation Society has 12 books that they recommend for all youth to read. you know, they could even read like half of them before they graduate primary school. Like that would
be great if the library could reinforce these books. Um because kids do go to the library. >> Um you know, so I I feel like that's a huge part starting with younger younger children. Um so yeah, I think that could
be an item on the agenda talking about where these are housed. It looks like right now Um most of them are in reference. Um a couple are not. Um it looks like one is in the juvenile
like um area like the children's area and one's in I don't know what the WAT section is. The John Bowl um or no the >> the Camden Mboy Railroad. Oh >> yeah.
Yeah. And we may want to talk about like reacquiring the books that got called out as well because Yeah. >> If we can find a place for all of these books to reside that's going to be accessible. >> Yeah. I mean, right now they're on a
shelf um called the Cranberry. I think a lot of these are on a shelf called the Cranberry Collection and they're behind the reference librarian. Um, so I think, you know, they're they're safe, but we want to
kind of reinforce, you know, make sure that she understands the intent of these books and why they were acquired in the first place. And, you know, yes, the a library has created a new policy, but like they have to they should still try to at least honor,
>> you know, what we do with the town. >> Feel a little bit of interest. They weren't working. >> Yeah, it's it's Yeah, I know. And I I I don't I don't I don't know. Some of them
are are Yeah. missing. Yeah. They have a very long policy. But the other thing too is um so I say we try to have a nice meeting about this. Um I also um work with um the
person on the board of the library who does the policy too. So if we are you know if we think that um the problem is the policies after we meet with the director of the library then we can try to escalate this
up to the policy people. >> I kind of think we should reschedu so that you can be there. >> You do? >> I do. >> Okay. that Jennifer should be there. >> Jennifer should be arrange. >> Okay.
>> I know we want to get it done, but I think there would be a lot of value in you actually being there >> as opposed to you telling us what you want us to say. >> Oh god. Okay. >> Or unless you were just delegating. >> I mean, you want >> Yeah, I'll I'll see if we can reschedu.
Okay. Yeah, I'm I'm trying to represent you guys. I mean, honestly though, I will say that. I mean, you know, we want our books to be useful. That's the That's the overarching mission.
>> Yes. Accessible and useful to the community. >> Maybe not looking at there. Well, to tie this into the previous agenda item about the website, this is a pretty good foundation for a page on our site of these are recommended.
>> Great idea. >> Great idea. >> If we could >> Great idea. >> Maybe supp. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, that's a very good idea. >> Great idea. >> Cool. >> I was in that library. I was in the
library in Lambertville and they they had like a section of books like when you walk in you can actually see the historic like the books that might be helpful. I don't know. So is are those books located in a place where you can see them?
>> Yeah, they're I mean they're in a shelf that's kind of you know where they have those like meeting rooms in the big room where the research librarian is. >> Yeah. >> Where it's kind of back behind his desk. >> Okay. So you could kind of like walk there and like take them or use them.
>> Yeah. When you first walk in or something. Yeah. >> As long as people know they're walking. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And we did a flyer and we put it um in the mayor's email last I think
it's last year about it. Um, but it's one of those things, you know, people can always be reminded to >> Are our flyers that, you know, the whole campaign you worked on last year, are they already on our website or should they be just added to the website as
kind of graphics? >> They're kind of like in the >> They are in like the news the announcements section, but we don't have like a graphics page. I don't know if we can, right? But it would be great
if you know the books page has the books flyer on it. You know, these graphics are going to grab your attention more than just a list. >> And I'm looking here. It does look like >> um
I'm just looking at how the navigation of the pages. It looks like you have um it clicks to a PDF. So, I don't know. Maybe, yeah, maybe what we do is we take some of those flyers and we kind of put them on the left side navigation so that
they don't just disappear with time. That might be Yeah, it's going to be a challenge to decide like what the priority is, I think, with our site, you know. >> And one more thing to consider is that
those flyers were mostly designed for print, right? They're PDFs of, you know, piece of paper, >> which looks fine on a laptop, but on a mobile phone, you know, someone's trying to like pinch and zoom to see the thing at a time.
>> So, >> if the since we want the website to work well on mobile phones, we might take the content from a flyer >> and put it in the page, not as a, you know, an 8 and 1 half by 11 flyer. That's a good idea. put the content in something that can reflow according to the screen size
>> making it movable. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'm Yeah. Yeah. It's not the most user friendly because you have to click twice. It like brings you to like a little page here and then then you get to it.
Yeah. We could Okay, great. Um, okay. So, um, all right. So, really important for us today, tonight, I'm glad we don't have applications, is to talk about our accomplishments. Um,
so we have a draft here of our accomplishments and I wanted to ask you guys to take a look at it and let me know if you think that we have any other accomplishments that we should emphasize in our in our
presentation to TC as well as we have to send it on to the CLG um by March 31st. First, The second bullet point for the 25 accomplishments talks about in planning
board approval. Um and this but the first part of that sentence talks about an ordinance. Um is this is that regarding the the master plan amendment? Is that what that bullet point is discussing overall?
>> Yeah. So we should So what you're saying is um >> well I don't I don't have an inconclusion other than to say that uh the drafting of the ordinance I think is the forwardlooking designation. I think that's referring to that
or is that referring to the master plan amendment that already happened last year? >> I think uh the amendment we so wait okay so the amendment was what got approved by the planning board. So we we need to specify that the ordinance was drafted and but
that the amendment for was what was approved by the planning board. >> Yeah. >> Is that do you think that's more accurate? I'm not good at this language um that we
use these technicals. >> Um >> given so the drafting is what Liz is working on right now, right? >> Yeah. >> So she drafted it, but we haven't even had like a close to final draft yet. So maybe it's premature to to list as a
2025 accomplishment the future designation ordinance and maybe we just focus on the master plan the amendment to the master plan that did happen and had planning board approval was all wrapped up from 25. Okay, we can we can
just emphasize we can um so we can we can state that we had the amendment for the master plan approved by the planning board and then we won't talk about the ordinance until this year. Okay, fair enough.
>> Um when did we have the public presentation of the phase three survey? Was that January of 2025? >> Oh, it wasn't a year. >> I know you weren't. >> Definitely before midFebruary.
>> Might have been the year before. >> That's what I'm wondering. Was it 2024? >> I think it was 2024. >> You think it was? >> Yeah, I think it was too. >> I know. It's all starting to like flow together. >> Um, we just talked about the communication flyers. I think those should be listed as a comp.
>> That's right. We did a couple additional ones for the I forgotten about that. Yeah, we did one on HPC versus chips. Um, yeah, we had put the flyers a lot of the flyers we had done in last year's accomplishments,
but we did one on the um on HPC versus chips. That was the only one we actually No. Yeah, just the one on HPC versus chips was the only one we did this year. Um, but I can add that. >> When was it that we met with the
architects? >> Uh, that was >> last calendar year. Was that >> I believe so? It was like August or something last year. >> Yeah, you were here. >> So, we should add that to the accomplishments that >> we that Sue and I met with
>> uh a group of architects who are regular >> Yes. and the survey >> submitters or whatever the right you know that regularly submit plans on behalf of their clients. >> We did the survey to get to get to get their input about the process and yeah general feedback.
>> Oh, we need to add that. I will add that we did the survey to the homeowners about the design guidelines. We met with the architects >> and we also did like a pass through with the design guidelines as well as part of
the whole master plan amendment. Okay, I forgot about that. Thank you. >> And there was something else that was on my head. I forgot it now. Um, >> we brought on a um student >> Oh, yeah. We brought on Emily.
>> You forgot I forgot about that. Okay, we'll add that, too. >> I I would recommend um spelling out instead of COE, say certificate of eligibility. Okay. >> Um
maybe >> and what that means >> fill it out a little bit just to say um we it was submitted to the the state histo preservation office for the hamlet. I think that would be good. >> Sounds good.
>> I have a question about the third bullet point of refined the inventory of historic sites identifying the match plan. Does that mean that the next time the master plan is reviewed, we have an updated list to be talking with the planning board about? What what was the
product of that refinement? >> Um, so that was the list that Dave worked on that we're that we basically are using for the next CLG grant, which would be basis for next time we have Yeah. If we have another M for the next
master plan, hopefully we can get that list in there. Um, I think that that document that Dave did and that Yeah. would be that list. Do you think that there's a chance we miss it? We're missing anything? I don't I don't think
so. >> We should >> Sorry. Can we uh just circulate that um so that way we're all familiar with what that was? >> I can send it on to you guys again. Yeah, definitely. Oh, >> do we want to Oh, sorry.
>> No, sorry. Just about that same list. Uh earlier you mentioned how in speaking with Chips, you learned the age of the house at 1260 South River. That's not on that list in the master plan that they started in 1993. Did is there any insight?
>> It's there. It's there. >> Not in not in the master plan. >> Oh, not in the master plan. I know. So, is there any insight as to why it wasn't included as back then?
>> The Oh, I actually I do know I do know um because I do know um so what I what I learned I spoke with Steve Galisano >> um about chips about that house actually. Um, one thing that happened
when we were doing apparently the last master plan re-examination, the planner or consultant that we were working with made us remove had us remove the list of those properties because they said to
they said to Steve that I just want to make sure I'm being accurate. So, speak really fully that if we include that list, it means that those are the only ones that are important. And he said that he agreed to that, but
he regrets it because as a result, we've kind of lost that list in the master plan. So I think that um it was recommended that way because it was I guess someone views viewing it as like oh well if you
have that then I mean nothing else is important. >> Um >> kind of is true those the the ones that are in a master plan are do get >> as we talked about last year special protection in certain cases. >> Um there's actually gets protection from
state law too. the state has uh laws around site historic sites that are in the master plan. So, it's they are a special class to to have that uh designation in the master plan. Um >> yeah and and it's interesting because um
I had um and this is more of a long-term discussion but um I had a meeting this past month with um Preservation New Jersey uh with a woman there um and we were just talking a little bit about like some of the challenges that we've been having with you know you know here
in Cranberry and with affordable housing and you know you know all the stuff and you just kind of asking like what is being done in other towns are they still dealing with the same problems and she said yes they're all you know a lot of these same challenges we've had in Cranberry are consistent with other
towns. Um but what she mentioned was that um we might want to look at landmarking and doing that in our ordinances um in the future. Um, and that what that would mean is kind of like what you described is that um
there's a process and a path and she's going to send me more information for us to research um where our town can create ordinances to um locally landmark these individual properties and they don't have to be in a historic district. They don't have to be all in close proximity
to each other and that there's a path and a process that other towns are doing. Well, there's a thematic historic district where if they are somehow related to each other, like we are talking about agricultural buildings or
churches and they're not adjacent to each other, you can do a thematic historic district >> to tie them together and get that historic protection. >> Yeah. And I mentioned that to her and she said that's really smart. You're looking at doing that. Um but she also
mentioned that if we had support of our township committee that there are actual measures we can take from a local leadership perspective that will locally protect individual property. They don't even have to be part of anatic district
is what she said. >> So she's going to get me more information because I was like I did not know about that and that's it >> pretty pretty major. Um, but we would have to have the support of our township committee to create that ordinance
um, and buy in. And I feel like it could be for us, what if we do it as like, you know, let the dust settle this year, right? I mean, this this year is kind of we're going to be picking up the pieces from last year and we're going to be demolishing three new three beautiful
historic houses this year. Um, after that happens and the dust settles, maybe we talk with, you know, our our township committee about doing some more landmark some landmarking for some of these, you know, really special properties that are
not necessarily in the historic district. >> Is so chapter 93 talks about historic sites and districts like designation of historic sites and districts. Is that >> different than if the township were to choose to designate historic sites? Like
is the is the landmarking process you're talking about? Isn't that wouldn't that kind of just be if they chose to designate a historic site? >> I don't know. It might be. It sounds like maybe that might be the maybe that could be the path. I don't know. I don't know. She's going to send me information
on it and then I think I think that maybe we could research it and like talk to some other towns too about what they're doing. like she's she she knows some others that's why I had the call with her because I just wanted to hear about what's happening in other towns and stuff too. Um so when I attended the
um state conference last year and I we did the presentation about uh tough calls and HPC's um one of the items that followed was a discussion about um
uh HBC's throughout the state talking to each other >> and how that can happen and like you know creating like call list or you know a list serve or something so that we can ask questions and get responses >> and that hasn't happened.
>> No, we did we did talk with that one woman um you talked to her too, right? >> Which one? >> From was she from Maplewood? >> Oh yes. >> Yeah, >> we did hear we talked to another HPC like last year. That was exciting.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I think I think we don't have a lot to share >> something like that. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So who initiates something? >> Maybe the next >> Well, we were trying to say that it should be Shipo and the CLG people, you
know, and at least get the CLG groups talking, you know, HBC's talking to each other. >> Maybe just start with Middle Sex County. >> Maybe Preservation New Jersey should >> Maybe Preservation New Jersey. >> I can mention that to her as well. Yeah. >> Carla.
>> Carla Visser. Yes. >> Nice. >> Cool. Um, okay. Let me see where were we talking. >> Okay. So, we're talking about goals. Okay. Okay. So, do you guys have any
other comments about the accomplishments? And then we talk about goals. Okay. All right. So, I drafted up the goals for you guys. this does not have to be how it has to be. But I was I reflected upon what we talked about last
time. We wanted to try to have three like fewer goals, right? So what I thought about doing is what if we kind of bucket our goals and this will give us a little bit of flexibility as you know things come and go and then we would organize our meet our minute
meetings this way. So we would begin with talking about our existing districts and things that are going on in those districts. Then we would talk about areas in greater Cranberry Township. And then we talk about public outreach
and communication. And that way then we have like kind of a little bit of a uh we have three main focuses and then we can kind of each kind of get behind one of these. Um
>> what do you think? >> Nine. >> There's nine. Oh, there's nine things. >> There's only five of us. >> Yeah. Tasks. >> Nine tasks and five of us. I'll volunteer to champion 1A. >> Sorry,
>> I I am volunteering to champion 1A. >> 1A. >> Thank you. Um, yeah, I you guys know I'm all over B. 1B. Um, let's see.
Um, do we want to still go forward with um 2A? This was on our list from last year of starting to notify property owners about this type of thing. >> Oh, wow. I didn't know this was on this year because I kind of object to it
being on this year. And sorry, the re Let me just Sorry, that's that's a bold statement to make. Um the reason >> I object >> uh the reason I uh am reluctant to have it as a goal for this year is I would
think that to a we're we are not in a position to know whether we would be going down that path until after things have been surveyed. So I think it's too early for us to be agreeable. >> I agree. I agree. And it I don't know that it was potential designation. I
think at one point we were just going to notify property owners of potential survey. >> Oh, the survey. Yeah. >> Yeah. As opposed to designation which is several steps ahead of that. >> Okay. >> So, do we
2 for now? >> Yeah, we can strike it. Okay. >> Less is more. >> Um 2B will be contingent upon the CLG grant. How much research would we need to be doing? Are we kind of providing
base research material to the um survey >> the surveyor people? >> We would give them they're going to have to find it. But we I mean we there's a lot of information in like we like Chips has a lot of information like in John
Chambers's book and like the history center and stuff like that. So I think >> we can probably need to work with them. >> Yeah. I don't know that we need to do the research, but maybe just >> Yeah, run the run the CLG grant process.
Maybe we could we could make it more um adjust the goal about the CLG grant process. >> Yeah, >> that makes sense. >> Yeah. Um, >> so for C, I'm not volunteering for C, but um
um it says preservation salvage of sites slotted for demolition and like the it's kind of an oxymoron because we're not preserving the sites slotted for demolition.
>> Um we're not talking about salvage I don't think anymore. Well, we don't if it can't be >> removed, then it'll be sal I think salvage is still >> on the table. >> I I just think the I understand the intent. I'm just I think the wording
needs to um make sure it makes TC happy. >> What do we think we should say then as our goal for these three properties? >> Evaluate, >> mitigate the uh mitigate the damage
>> and you know slotted for demolition. I mean >> the South River Road might be moved. You know slot. Yeah. Threatened for demolition. >> I think threatened is is accurate because it's not >> it's not a done deal. >> Certain.
>> True. Um um >> who would want to um >> develop strategies for salvage or reuse? >> Salvage, reuse. And then um what's the other word that Dave used to use a lot?
Um where we capture what it looks like? Record and >> and and document. >> Document. >> Document. document sites >> identified or yeah or threatened for potential demolition or something like that.
>> Good. >> Is there enough there to write a cogent sentence? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Um public outreach. Um let's see.
We still on board with A throughD. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I would consider I mean there's a lot with the website. Um >> Oh, yeah. The website. Yeah, we should add that >> update website.
>> Yep. >> Okay. >> Is is 3B uh ne it's not it's non-specific. It's kind of like our general. >> We had talked about it at the end of last year when we were first talking
about adding goals and that's why I put it in um >> because we had said we, you know, we always feel like we're being reactive. We feel like we're being pulled into things at the end. you know, how can we be more proactive about what we have
going on um with, you know, other committees and with TC and we talked about making a goal. Um okay, if >> we don't think we have bandwidth to do it, then we don't have bandwidth to do it. >> Um
I do think it's important. I think I think it'd be a good thing to try to do this year. Um >> maybe it's something like work to or just enhance communications across committees as appropriate entities TC.
>> Yeah, I mean this is something I'm I I can own of course. Um, and what I plan on doing is like really doing a better job of sending out minutes of minutes like you know we have our minutes that are long but also doing like a shortened minutes
to UTC after each meeting. >> Um, really to Barbara so that Barbara has a bullet point. >> Yeah. I want I I want to my goal is to give Barbara a list of things that she can read so that everything that's read
to TC is accurate and a reflection of this meeting. Um and then Barbara doesn't have to do the extra work of taking notes during our meeting. She can just take it in.
Um, and >> I do have a question. >> Do you have anything separate for revolutionary for revolution from chips? Because
>> I am the township person that is doing um, you know, the revolution in New Jersey. So, I've asked um I don't want to sit here. Um I've asked Chips um to give me a list and um and if you guys do you have anything different or you
working with Chips? >> We don't have I just don't think we have the bandwidth and resources to like lead anything. I was just wondering because I'm starting to um you know I' I've asked Karen Kelly and um
>> they do so much amazing work >> and so she's going to give me a list and I'm going to be putting it in the mayor's update like the you know what's coming up you know I'm going to come the colonial fair we should start advertising obviously you know because that's >> I think like for us it would be great if
they if I know they're busy and they have a lot to do like I mean how can we help what can we do from our I think we Am I speaking correctly? Like we feel happy to be part of it. We just don't know how
to help. And >> so this is like because it's a goal in here, you know? I see it. And so I'm like, well, are you doing something different? But you'd really want rather part like >> Bobby goes to the meetings. She represents us.
>> Yeah. But we haven't been asked like really to do anything yet. But we're thinking what we're we were planning we were thinking of having a table at the Colonial Fair. >> Okay. >> Um and planning something similar to kind of like what we do at Cranberry Day. Um
>> yeah. >> And but this year >> Okay. One one way to to act on what you've kind of brought to the surface is that if we don't have a separate agenda for
that, does it need to be one of our goals? Or you could just say work with chips or you know like revolution nutri like or >> support like >> support what's uh initiatives >> support yeah with um
community I mean we could tie it back to the community outreach in terms of and then tie it to cranberry day colonial fair and revolution New Jersey celebrations and kind of tie it all together because to your point I don't it's it's difficult for us to have like
We've always had it as a goal because we know it's important, but like we don't >> um >> Yeah, I just was wondering that's because I'm I'm trying to advocate and I want to advocate for you guys, but what am I advocating for? like ask like I'm happy to put stuff in mayor's update and
get you guys like at the house um maybe the house tour you could have a QR code like to your interact to the interactive map like you know that kind of thing that people can >> because you get so many people at the tours you want to that's the time that's
the time to say hey you know >> there's stuff behind this besides these you know >> preserving these homes are really important so um >> like maybe I could work to some of our collateral out more so at some of the chips events and stuff. Yeah, at the
CHIPS events. >> I mean, it would be up to Chips whether they but I can't imagine. I don't know. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, the reason why because I have this interactive map of it hasn't taken off. It's on the website. It's all the
businesses and I haven't been keeping up with it as well. But it'd be great if I could, you know, the idea was to have QR codes um businesses so that people could pop on it, you know, that kind of thing. But I don't know QR code somehow if we could
get that out that that's in there. You know, you you've been talking about the interactive map. That's why I'm pointing to you. So a QR code of um what what what I think you map
>> if one of the houses in the or some of the houses in the house tour are have property reports on the map. We might as well help people about those property. >> Yeah, >> that's a great idea. >> You know the list that you have in there. So,
>> so what if we I'm gonna what if I I'm going to combine uh 3 A and C and make it more around like um kind of communication by, you know, piggybacking and collaborating
with CHIPS and with the the different celebrations and events in town and trying to have some sort of a um you know, an opportunity for for our information to be shared as appropriate um
>> in the context of what's going on. >> It's a great idea. >> Has kiosk. We have information in the kiosk. So tries to keep alive, you know, out there in the public somehow >> the kiosk that that that's um outside.
>> No, the there's a kiosk that goes into the preserve. So um you know garden like so it's trying to you know and then there's the rain garden that has their I'm not saying create a kiosk but I'm saying somehow
>> yeah I know we use the town kiosk that's what we've so far we've been using that >> oh okay >> but not everyone walks through >> door >> it's a good I mean it's good it's for yeah people who are using walker door see it people walking into town hall see
it but um everyone. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I know. >> No, but I'm I'm glad to hear that you're trying to like help. I love I love this idea like, you know, piggybacking on to each other. >> Yeah.
>> Um to support the same because we're all working toward the same thing which is celebrating this. >> Okay. So, there's nothing separate. So, >> but we don't have anything separate now. >> Yeah. So, I'll just see what they come up with. Yeah, that'd be great. >> Okay, quick. Thanks.
>> Um, so I can I can do that. And then that's actually nice because that gets us get rid of two of our like it streamlines some of our our goals. >> So, are we good with how um it's organized and what we have? >> I don't I don't mean to be a stickler
about making sure we have champions, but does everything have something someone interested enough to do it? >> Okay, so we have let's go through it one more time. Uh 1 A is uh Brandon. 2 A is Jen.
Uh 1 B is Jen. 2 A is gone. Uh 2B is the CLG grant thing, which is somewhere lives between Jen and >> I'll take >> Sue. Sue. Thank you, Sue. Uh C.
somewhere lives between Jen and maybe Guy. >> Yeah, I could. >> Yeah, >> Bobby is I think Bobby is now the new A 3A and C. >> Oh my gosh, you don't have this. >> Oh, Bobby.
So, um >> the back side. >> Oh, yeah. >> And then maybe Bobby, you could help with the live. So yeah, we're yeah, goal 2006 goal three. So Bobby would be, you know, Colonial Fair, Revolution, New
Jersey, communication, and then partially library. And I'll help with library. Sue's help with library. >> Yep. >> Cool. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Website. >> Website. Oh, that's right. We're adding website. Emily, I'm not we're not going
to say you need to be passionate enough about the website for you to champion it, but if you're interested in it, we would support you and give you the runway to to improve it and like own like help steer what that should be. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. I think maybe >> you know him. It might be an opportunity might be to meet with Gina and the gentleman. Yeah. >> That does it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And have Yeah. Where we kind of show
>> I think the best thing is >> Yeah. We make like a list of what we were thinking. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And uh and then >> Oh, that's right. We have one more person before him. Yes. Exactly. Yes.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. It's too bad it's not Wix. I built like my husband's website. I'm always changing things and moving stuff around. It's not that simple. >> It's easy when it's yourself.
>> Yeah. >> Exactly. Yep. Exactly. No, it it does look like when you look at the website, it definitely looks like there's definitely some confines. So, we'll just have to figure out how to how to make it work within the the format and everything. So,
>> cool. >> Okay. >> Um All right, that's it in terms of the goals. So, do we want to Oh, we have the doors. The doors. >> The doors. >> So, do you want to share our update? You share the update. Well, um, Jennifer was
able to, um, get in touch with the company that did the installation of the doors. So, she and I had a conversation with, what was his name? Dan. >> Nice gentleman. >> Dan Dan something. Anyway, we had a nice conversation with him.
>> Um, you haven't heard anything back, I guess. >> Not yet, >> but he's uh doing some research. I had separately tried to get in touch with uh the manufacturers of the doors, Asa Abloy, and they were totally
nonresponsive to my emails andor phone calls. >> Yeah. So anyway, it was great. I was very surprised, happily surprised that you were he was nice guy, >> the installer. >> So he was going to go back to his supplier
>> and uh see what can be done about possibly uh adding some kind of molding to the surface of the doors without a >> compliant fashion. The warranty and all these things. I
mean, I did point out to him and and I think he knew it anyway, but I just pointed out that Asa Avaloid does have a model of that door on their website that talks about applied moldings can be added
for, you know, various for decorative reasons. >> Yeah. >> Um, so we'll see. You know, this, as I said to him, we're not going to go to Home Depot and buy some molding and glue it on. So, it's got to be done the right way. So, I don't know when we'll hear
>> I'll follow up with him in a couple weeks. Right. >> That's where we are right now. >> Okay. Cool. Uh training any updates? >> Um I attended a webinar with some of my
co-workers. It was um presented by the National Trust for Stark Preservation and they were talking about the use of story maps, mapping and story maps. Um so it was very interesting. They had three
different um uh presenters. One was a a city in Texas and how they were using story maps. I'll explain what that is. Um and then another one was a nonprofit and I forget >> Little Rock. Little Rock was one of them. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Did you see it? >> I did. I attended that time.
>> Yeah. So, it was very interesting and um so the story maps allow you to well in AutoCAD speak like you know create an attribute and you so you click on something and it'll you tells you it's
kind of like clicking onto like the property survey but it's it's more than that. So what what did you take from it? >> Uh I think all three of them were built on ArcGIS might have been the the
platform >> or or Ezri. >> Oh yes, as Ezrey, right? Yeah. It's just really clunky. That's what I took away from it. Um I don't know. I didn't I didn't really have great takeaways. I don't know. >> You did? >> I don't know.
So, we were talking about it at at work because we have, you know, Rucker's maps, but we want to, you know, do outreach and educate because that's our job, um, about all our historic sites. So, it was a way
since we already have this the Ruckers Map platform to add basically a property survey to each location. So, anyway, it's very interesting >> there. I I did walk away thinking that with as extensive an archive as Chips
has, um, putting more of that into a geographical representation could help. But yeah. >> Yeah. >> Do you know what date you and the like hours that it was? >> One hour.
>> Yeah, >> I can find the date. Okay. Yeah, just for >> Well, I think it sounds great because it sounds like they're using technology to um make historic preservation more accessible to people who can't drive all
around and or or spend hours in the archives of chips. Right. >> January 28th. Gina, >> very cool. Um, okay. Uh, let's see.
Um, new homeowner letters. >> Yeah, we had one for, um, 75 North Main >> and that was it. Yeah. >> Um, okay. Minutes. in the discussion of the town hall doors
uh where it talks about guy contacting a company. We should just clarify that that is the company that manufactured the door. It wasn't just like a random company found online. Sure. >> Yeah. Nice.
Very good. Great job. >> Okay. So, vote to approve the minutes. >> So, move. >> Second. >> Motion. >> All right. Roll call for the January
20th minutes. Miss Smireer. >> Yes. >> Mr. Guyer. >> Yes. Mr. H. >> Yes. >> Miss Ryan. >> Yes. >> And Miss Marlo. >> Yes. >> Okay. Thank you. Motion passed. >> Public disc. Public comment. >> Any additional comments from the public?
>> Okay. Anything else that we would like to discuss? >> Nothing. >> All right. So, make a motion to adjurnn. >> I'll make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Okay. Right. All in favor say I. >> I.
Thank you. Thank you.