for this application and it's in order so you have jurisdiction to Pro so we have jurisdiction thank you and then would you like to begin by swearing in Witnesses or do you want to make an opening
statement and then I'll swear all your Witnesses in that would be great uh good evening board members Joe PaPeRo from porio Bromberg and Newman behalf of the applicant amazon.com Service LLC um I just give a really brief overview of the application before I
introduce my uh witness this evening this is uh an application for minor site plan approval uh for the existing Amazon fulfillment center located at 22 heightstown cranberry Station Road that's block 10 of lot and lot
10.02 on your tax map um we are here for minor site plan approval for proposed modifications to the existing parking area um as you'll hear this evening those modifications involve the uh conversion of a portion of the uh
passenger vehicle parking area to trailer and truck storage and parking um there are some striping and pavement modifications uh that are depicted on the plans that you have before you this evening um this site is located in the I
which is the industrial Light Impact Zone which according to your code permits the existing and continued warehouse distribution use um we did receive the reports from the board's Consultants including the uh engineering review from Mr hoder dated February 24
2025 I'll note that in that uh report Mr hoder identified some of the checklist submission waivers that we've requested um he spelled those out uh pretty much pretty thoroughly in detail in his report um those submission waivers are
being requested uh because this is an existing facility it's a fully developed site um and I believe Mr hoder uh thought that those requests were reasonable under the circumstances that again this is a limited scope project uh to change some striping in the pavement
areas uh there's no new building construction or no additional impervious coverage being proposed um so we would submit to you that this application is complete and ready for your consideration uh we also received the board planners report which is dated
February 28 2025 um your planner noted a couple of design waivers for the parking lot improvements uh we are prepared this evening to address those comments we have a couple of exhibits um that we'd like to introduce that we feel uh
directly satisfy those uh design waivers that were noted in your planner report um and again in our opinion this is a pretty straightforward application as you'll hear this evening Amazon is looking to make the interior circulation on the site more efficient uh you'll
hear this evening that there is currently some uh bottlenecking and congestion on site when it comes to tractor tractors that are picking up empty trailers they're having to circulate through the main guardhouse where other tractors and are trying to
leave so uh this proposal will segregate those two uh keep those separated so that the empty trailers can be picked up independently of where the full loow uh full load trailers are being dropped off I don't want to provide any testimony so
I'll turn right over to my first witness um Sher Miller who um will obviously is available to be sworn right and I'm gonna swear everyone in together all the board's professionals too okay so want to raise your right hand you swear that the testimony that you're about to give before this board is the truth the whole
truth nothing but the truth so you got I do I do okay and uh I guess you probably want to have his witness qualified right yes okay uh Miss Miller for the benefit of the board and public can you provide your education area of expertise and the licenses you hold we're gonna have to
share this okay that's fine hi everyone good evening uh yes I'm Sher Miller I am a registered architect in 42 States uh my background I went to renier Polytechnic Institute RPI up in Troy New York um I have a Bachelor of Science in building sciences and a Bachelor of
Science and architecture back in the 90s and I've been practicing all over the country ever since I currently reside primarily in the Seattle area but we have been working with this client um for over 15 years on various projects so
and Jerry you are a New Jersey licensed I am a New Jersey licensed architect and in fact you signed and sealed and these prep these plans were prepared under your super that's correct yes and you're well familiar with the details that are depicted on these plans I am uh I would
offer Miss Miller as an expert in the field of architecture and have you appeared before any planning boards in New Jersey no have you uh have you appeared before any planning boards at all oh yes okay many all right we'll accept your
qualifications and thank you for coming thank you thank you um so just so the the record can be clear and we can pick up everyone's discussion tonight I we'll share the microphone if you have any exhibits we need to Mark those before you provide any testimony if there's anything you're going to you're going to
use the easel for you know let's coordinate that um so Sherry the I I gave an overview of what the proposal is very broadly can you provide a little bit more context as to what your firm
was tasked to do for this existing facility and how these proposed what I'll call parking lot modifications will improve the efficiency yes so our firm was hired by
Amazon to help them uh provide a more efficient and more optimized trailer storage for this site they currently have a one-sided in andout drop off
pickup leave um it optim currently runs about 80% um capacity on a normal day but on busier days can go up to 90% which means the trailer yard is very full and a lot
of times what happens is a trailer will come it will unload and then it won't have anywhere to go so currently it doesn't have a spot and it takes up a spot for a trailer that needs to come in and move a load and causes congestion on
the site so this overflow yard is literally just to move empty trailers from the active yard over to the Overflow yard so they have internal Amazon safety trained constantly trained
employees that drive the hustlers or the little day cabs and once the truck load is removed at the dock on the active side The Hustler will come and pick the empty trailer up and take it to this
overflow dump it there in a you know in a empty trailer spot and then that frees that dock door up so another trailer can come and do their um unloading excuse me on loading or
offloading so the need for this is to remove the congestion that's currently happening on their smaller active yard side and allow for this the empty trailers to not be in the way of the the
flow of the actual needed on loading and offloading have you been to the site I have and I'll speak loudly so we can pick us up so Sherry did you do you want to walk the board through where on the site this conversion of Passenger
parking to trailer storage will occur and maybe refer to the sheet number so the board members can follow along sure I hope I have the most recent version you'll tell me you're you're not following like particular order right so you want to
mark them as an exhibit as you go these these should be the the plans they are but um you the mark well I usually do I'll just say like exhibit one is sheet um A3 or whatever it is you know perfect you can do that uh so whatever sheet you're going to use for your testimony
let's make sure we Mark that first so which sheet would you like to use to walk the board through where these improvements are going to be located so I think the the best place to see the overall of the site is the cover sheet
a010 we'll mark that as A1 sheet a0 so you'll see over on the left hand side the color key map that shows the existing facility as it sits today um the rear of the building is the active
truckyard um so there's dock doors along the building side and Then trailer stalls along the back property line yes I'm sorry where what is it North is the rear of the building north west east or South north north okay um yeah and also
I just want to double check this the latest plan it's it's the uh 5th of uh December 2024 that's what there's been no revisions right yes okay so just orienting I'm looking at a plan that says February
7th um yeah it says there's a couple different dates on this side here um one it says design approval February 7th 2024 but then um I believe there um I saw another date on here oh yeah plot date if you keep going down that says
12520 24 so it looks like it went through different departments you so it's a little messy with the softer paper but is there any way that paper will hold up with clip so that when you are pointing to
something our board is clear about what you're pointing to it's more of an aid for us I know you're very familiar with the plans but if you could um my's G to fall off okay one at a time but it's worth it for our
board to be able to see the visual that you have that's not bad that's not bad and you could slide it back so the public can also see it is not the best setup but we appreciate you working
through it and solving the problem Robin can you raise the other one so that it's uh yeah we just want to make sure we we can see what you're um pointing out for us somewhere else yeah does anyone have any extra
maybe you could just put it out there so hey what I'm Excuse me Rob you think there's any uh Pham boards upstairs that I can go grab real quick and we could use it as a background a back stop for that thing yeah want me to go up for
you yeah get if you can get a 24 by 36 what we need is two paper clips and a time yeah we cannot continue without our recording secretary so the wheels stop you can't continue um
but but we appreciate the explanation for the why um I'm not sure how old this facility is and how long it's been there looks like 2017
2017 I think in 2017 I could not go on Amazon order what I needed and have it at my door at 3 that afternoon which I can now okay yes so it sounds like the parking lot is a little
busier okay more efficient more efficient okay it should work thank you Robin see himim there are all kinds of
jobs here okay you put them on the top you can do a Flipboard oh it's stapled on the sides unstaple it as you go on the other side better you're getting
better on the right if you could lower that left remove it there you go yeah perect wonderful so okay so much better thank you thank
you sorry have to flip between my glasses okay um AR working sorry I'm new to the readers so know which classes we've all been there and we'll be very patient with
you so um the existing trailer yard is back on the back side the north side of the building the guard shack sits right here and the trailers are unload and load up on the docks against the building here
and and I don't mean to be interrupted but when you're because it's being recorded yes you know just say like it's on the right hand side of the building north side yeah because right here you know it's not going to be okay thanks thank you so all the all the docks and
all the active loading and unloading is actually along the north side of the building we are proposing some additional trailer storage only not active storage down on the southwest
corner of the building the main entrance of the building roughly sits in the center of the nor south side of the building and currently this site is extremely overp parked um for associates
so the removal of the associate parking that is currently in the space on the southwest corner of the building that we are proposing the trailer storage stalls is never utilized for associate parking and just for the record the the
number of parking spaces to to support your Testament that it's overp parked are 987 currently 987 total parking spaces or correct the existing that's um vehicle not truck
parking just passenger vehicle correct yes so we are required for this building 198 parking stalls and when we're all said and done removing those uh those stalls for the
um for the new trailer storage there will still be 800 stalls proposed to remain so very much over parked when you said we're required you mean you are you are the code the code
requirement is 187 what's the 198 sorry that 198 is what is required for the calculation of the Z in code so from when the original bill
building was built what was the original requirement for passenger vehicle parking I am it would be well it would be the the 187 because it's based on square footage and there's been no no change I'm sorry not the 198 is what the
testimony is 198 was the requirement by code for the warehouse facility which is 991 348 sare ft so how did we get up to 800 plus parking space that's how many parking spaces are out
there today yeah but how did we get from only needing so 187 to 900 I was here the original application so I might they requested additional spaces because they had shifts and they wanted to have
enough parking for the shifts now the parking calculation that was given is based on one for 5,000 of the total square foot of the warehouse I don't think that breaks out the office space and I think we had the office space broke out uh where it's one for 250
square ft so there may be more that were originally required than the one to 5,000 and that that number of 189 actually goes up by their office space so it's probably more in the 300 to 400 range and the reason that they requested
additional parking is kind of to double so that when a shift came and left that they would have more space they actually uh requested and received more parking than that but I think that's how the larger number came about and that 189 is
actually low because it doesn't take into account the office space okay uh that's a that's a good explanation uh as as one more means of just uh helping this process if you
could take that and position it where the public could see and if the public could get a chair and be seated um I would appreciate that is that okay Robert I think it's going to be a bit of a long meeting but it's it's not appropriate for you to be behind our
professionals but it is appropriate it is it is appropriate for you to be able to see so I want to make sure that you can see um well is it okay for you okay I'll do my best not to watch
doing it more as a uh an ability for you to be able to look at the sheet and see um the papers Mr Dylan can you see can you see okay yeah yes I was just G to do a quick demo and then new of the parking area
and then I think we should so and M Madam chairman I um there were several just just so the board knows there were several resolutions involving this property over the years um they go back to um I'm gonna say this is 98 maybe
1998 yeah and there was um a couple of different amendments amended preliminary approvals and such and I can just see like looking very just quickly that the board discussed a larger number of parking spaces than what was required by
ordinance at that time so discussed and approved yeah okay so this is the existing site that we're uh that like that we're working with and it evidently has been working for Amazon because they haven't come back for any changes up to
now yeah thanks Shar okay all right so the next exhibit did you want to speak to the aerial that or what are we labeling this one a well we're still on the first exhibit and i' just like for you to point out the um the road she
just changed did you change it okay so on this one if you would point out the roads the access where the uh traffic is coming in and out of just so we get our bearings for exactly where you are absolutely of course so this is it gets easier you go forward I promise okay
thank you um ex what we'll mark As exhibit A2 is sheet a100 in your packet and Sherry if you could for the record just describe what is depicted on a 1.0 which we're marking tonight as exhibit
A2 yes so this is the overall site plan as an aerial image with the areas of work and extend ENT of area that we are looking to um make changes to is shown along
with uh circulation paths so as was uh requested can you walk the board and the public through access from heightstown cranberry Station Road on this exhibit yes okay so access for the Associates at
this time comes off of heist Heist down cranberry Station Road onto this existing internal uh business or Park driveway that is on Amazon's property and they have multiple entrance opportunities to get into the main
associate parking area on the south of the building where the main entrance to the facility for the associates lies the trailers the trucks come in on the north side of the building off of
the same street with their own driveway they come to the West along the length of the building through a guard shack in and out and then circulate along the north side of the building to
date and this depicts where the um existing building entry we have a small little scope of work that is proposed on the South Side about halfway nor East West and then depicts the extent of the
Southwest trailer overflow yard that is proposed and you're pointing to a dotted rectangle on exhibit A2 that's the location for the parking lot modifications that's correct okay and Sher the modifications are
solely limited to that rectangle area correct as far as the the parking conversion from passenger vehicle to truck trailer storage parking correct there's still associate parking along the almost three qus or more of the
South facade of the building there is additional overflow associate parking also on the Eastern side of the facility and on the western side of the facility there's no work to any of either the east or
west parking lots unless there's any questions on this exhibit we'd like to go to a more focused uh plan that shows the actual conversion of the parking spaces to the trailer parking spaces
okay for the record what we'd like to Mark as exhibit A2 is sheet a 1.01 from your packet I think that's three exhibit A3 say a23 a101 is that talking about right now
yes Sherry uh sheet a 1.01 um can you explain what details are depicted on this sheet for the board and the public yes so this is a there are
two two graphic um depictions on this sheet related both to the South side parking lot of this facility you're doing great with directions you really are you're doing you're doing really good thank
you um the top um diagram is a an existing site plan that has red dashed lines to delin all of the extent of the demolition of the scope example removal
of striping and and such on the lot and I can go into more detail on that as well and then the lower site diagram um shows the extent of the proposed new scope of work of the and
Sherry this scope of work is can you give a little bit more context as to what it involves is it simply removing paint parking you know striping as we call it in a parking lot and restriping them instead of for passenger vehicles for trailer size parking spaces is that
the extent of it is it milled is it repaved can you just give a little bit more detail yeah so everything is above the finish of the all the work we're doing is above the finish of the asphalt there are so no disturbance to the asphalt that's
correct there's some soil issues that we have been asked by the landlord to not disturb any of the asphalt so all of our Demolition and and new work is limited to
surface scope of work okay thank you so to go into more detail on the scope come over the side I apologize if I block you so on the Southwest parking associate parking lot
of the facility right now there is just a number of continuous associate stalls that runs through the entire South side of this parking area we will be removing um we should have a dimension there uh
we will be removing approximately a quarter of the length of those stalls simply removing the striping of the the surface and leaving all the Landscaping in place and providing instead of the
vehicle stalls we will be providing trailer length parking for the the empty trailers for storage purposes we will be um enclosing this trailer yard to keep it uh separate from the associate
parking lot that's a typical uh Safety and Security thing that Amazon always does so we are proposing a new three-sided fence that will um begin at the southwest corner or
along the Southwest facade of the building and it will run through uh this existing landscape strip that is a running perpendicular to the building out to the
internal internal driveway and then it will turn and run east along the the landscape planter that runs along that internal drive on the south side of the property um there and then it will turn
north and run perpendicular back up until it touches the building so it's three sides to secure that area it will have a sliding stackable gate at the
main trailer entrance and exit at the very very southwest corner of the property um that will be entirely within the paving strike area so it won't be disturbing or impacting any of the existing
landscaping and then there will be a double swinging gate on about half Center Line that aligns with the driveway uh running East West that will swing 180 degrees um that is primarily
for fire truck uh Breakaway access that the trailers for Amazon internally don't typically go out that an emergency so Sher if I could stop you right there your testimony you provided
just now for this fully enclosed secured trailer parking storage area as noted by the board's planner does require a number a few design waivers I think this is an appropriate time to address those and I'll I'm hope I I'll get them all if
not I'm sure um I'll be corrected but the first one is you talked about the proposed fence uh matching up to existing Landscaping is that correct yes it will it will run on two sides within the existing landscape and one of the design waivers noted by the board's
planner is by code all fences need to be I don't want to say surrounded but they need to adjoin Landscaping is that your understanding yes so is there a portion of this new fence that won't have landscaping around it and can you
explain why yes yes the excuse me two the two sides will is the existing landscape the existing is I'm sorry the Landscaping is existing however the new portion that runs on the east side of the enclosed
area north south from the landscape planter along the internal driveway up to the building will not have new Landscaping um primarily because our landlord the Amazon landlord will not allow any ground disturbance
um there were a number of comments throughout the letters that spoke about a buffer and I talk about how we address that absolutely so we've provide we have an exhibit that we' like to share we are
one of the comments mentioned um wanting a larger buffer between the new internal north south driveway that we're creating for the internal pedestrian all I'm sorry associate parking circul culation
and the fence for the trailers so we have moved forward with a design alternative to what was submitted to include that 9 foot striping as a buffer and shifted everything over and and uh
to provide not only the buffer for the request that I think came from traffic but also wanted to provide this as a um compromise as we not allowed to provide new Landscaping to satisfy that piece so
in response to the review letters from both the board's planner and traffic engineer um you've come up with a modification to to provide additional spacing um between the end of the trailer parking area the proposed trailer parking area and the new I'm
sorry and the existing associate parking area it won't be landscaped just to be clear because you've testified that the landlord doesn't allow ground penetration based on the history of the site yes it'll just be surface uh crosshatch striping okay I would like to
allow our uh traffic engineer and our planner to just have a conversation at this point to make sure that you understand what the suggested modification is um and I just like to hear your feedback at this point so that we uh we know if we're if we have a
satis if if you are satisfied with this proposal or if you you would feel like a different modification would be required but different you have a different exhibit you're going to show us right okay okay that'll be A4 yes in
my letter I did request some kind of buffer we've had these fences through parking areas and our concern is that active vehicles or parking spaces are right up to the fence and the fence will get damaged so what I was looking for is some kind of buffer space I understand from the history of the site that they
don't want to penetrate the uh pavement uh and Landscaping wouldn't be appropriate but maybe a striped area a no parking area uh near the fence I suggest at least 9 ft on the employee or associate parking area then on the other
side it would be based on the Turning analysis of the truck you don't want a truck backing right up next to the fence the fence will get damaged uh so I suggested a buffer area that would be striped on the pavement just to lead that area um where it wouldn't be used
by parking or circulation and again we've heard many applications for fence and parking areas and I think that's a compromise I haven't seen what they've come up with but that was a comment in my letter okay so thanks Andre uh hold
on chair and then I just want um our planner to uh offer hers and then we can move on with exhib with the next exhibit is that okay it help helps us to make the connection I appreciate it okay sure did everybody get a
copy we didn't pass it out yet Madam chair wants to hear from the okay so my letters had more to do with The Pedestrian circulation within the modified parking areas and currently uh in the what did you call them associate parking area there is sort of
accommodations for pedestrians to get to a landscaped area that will now be fenced in that that pedestrian sort of uh cite circulation will be removed road is it a Road to Nowhere sort of thing I I think so so get to that one so in any
event so those were more my concerns um uh as they relate to Andrew so we had two sort of different concerns but sort of the same okay so we'll start with the first we'll start with the Traffic Engineers request which we are going to Mark as exhibit
A4 this exhibit and it's going to get confusing I apologize not that it hasn't been confusing enough with our exhibits I apologize it what I'm marking is exhibit A4 and I provided the board secretary with one is has already pre-labeled exhibit B um so I just want
to keep those two linked together exhibit A4 for the record is a document that's labeled exhibit B with today's I'm sorry with March 5 2025 is the date and I'll let Sherry explain how this was
prepared in response to the Traffic Engineers request okay and I'll pass these out for everyone did you make a reference on the first one did you write a reference to why you give the board then we might be able to share oh sorry
except for Sharon he's only the lawyer you know sorry sharing own don't worry about legal she writes it all up and we could share we share well that's a big over
there no you're not going okay where they okay Sherry while the board is reviewing what's been marked as exhibit A4 can you explain what's depicted there and and why that was prepared yes so on this exhibit uh
the fence line not being able to be surrounded by landscaping and a buffer to be requested this exhibit shows that that buffer with the striped pile adjacent to the fence on the east side
where it's adjacent to the new internal north south driveway that um is within the associates parking lot as I mentioned that gate will only be used for fire truck access we show those swinging 180 degrees which is
essentially covered knock box on it yes okay yes absolutely yes um so this exhibit shows the extent of that increased striped buffer on that east side of that new proposed North South
fence um we did remove uh a row North South Row of parking additional associate parking stalls from what was shown on the submitted plans in order to accommodate that and maintain
the drve idal withs that's on the parking that's here employee parking and Sher this was prepared in response to to the report from the traffic engineer I believe it's comments three and
four regarding the request for separation along the fence line correct yes yes we were this for this be compromise to the landscape and cover the traffic comments as
well should we ask all right just real quick on the on the in the truck parking area it looks on the the parking space on the North side for the truck parking that space has been blanked out looks like there's a door or something
there but you it looks like you didn't blank you didn't carry that all the way through on the south side looks like a a partial parking on the south side for in other words that whole that should be blank that whole
spot should be blanked out too it looks partial is it partial no it's not intended can you give usces dist between the fence and the truck parking and the fence and the car parking for
spots and what are you trying to accomplish sorry um we just prepared these yesterday in response to these comments so we appreciate that and we're happy to work work through the plan with you that's okay that's what we're here for
so yeah we're just trying to better understand and make sure that it you know that for it meets the satisfaction of the board that it's going to be safe it's going to work and it's going to continue to have a good aesthetic um you know for the duration we don't
anticipate pay Amazon is going anywhere anytime soon okay thank you yes and it's actually want the other show kind of a question that I kind of know the answer of already I like when you do that Dave I know way to ask a
question yeah okay but but the thing is I guess I'm getting to moving the fence away from the tractor trailers closer to the parking for the cars because if a car door opens it's only three feet if a tractor trailer swings it could be I don't know up to
end or 10 feet that's why I ask the question that would be based on the Turning analysis we would need some kind of turning analysis showing that they can bark Park those trailers between the fence and the next truck if there's a truck in that space yeah do those look tight to
you that's another comment down the way because they're 12 foot wide or 10 foot wide 10 foot wouldn't work uh I think that 12T is shown in the detail 10 foot is shown as typ in the parking space what's our what's our standard 15 15
okay thought okay which if you put 15 there might be a loss of some of the spaces because that would tighten things up so that's a discussion further down yeah we can get to that one that's another we're we're unpacking I'm feeling better about this okay D Sher
does this exhibit answer Mr hodder's question about the dimensions in in the distance in in in more depth than what exibit does it doesn't have everything but has more okay so let's mark As exhibit exhibit
A5 with today's date for the record exhibit A5 is labeled Exhibit C March 5 2025 I believe this Mr hoder this may have more Dimensions that you're
Okay so ose yes close to 15 by our Yeah by our paper clip calculation Works yes so I answer my own
question you want to repeat your question question was what are the distances between the truck parking and the fence and the fence and the car parking uh this appears to be plotted out at uh though it doesn't say it at about 40
scale um so just by using my little scale here uh looks like we're talking about maybe 5 feet between the truck parking and the fence and about 10 feet between the um fence and the car parking I'm submitting that it should be the
opposite at least but Andrew is the real be more generous on the side of the TR truck says you're going to swing and secondly those those these spaces are nowhere near 15 feet yeah I didn't even check that yeah they're not even no
they're 10 they're 10 they're 10 okay and that was noted by the the traffic engineer uh the board's consultant and that's a one of the items that we're going to speak to I'm just thinking you should move the fence that's I mean okay not Andrew can talk
about whether the striping is correct or not but okay with moving the fence mov Mr hoder moving the fence towards the associate parking away from the tractor trailer parking because the associates aren't going to make as much damage on that fence how many what would you recommend
moving it how many I'm I'm gonna let Ander oh okay all right the regarding it's a good opportunity to talk about why the proposal is for trailer parking spaces that are 10 ft wide rather than 12 with
which I believe your opinion is indust is used frequently and then the code in Cranberry is 15 can you speak to why in your opinion 10 would work for this operation yes we were requested to provide 10 foot wide stalls for the
Overflow parking by the facility because the trucks are 8 ft wide and there's no one walking there's no active loading or unloading it's driver I'm sorry go you I was just gonna say the drivers come in and they drop a
trailer and then they move and they pick up another trailer and they go it's a very different situation as far as people walking on the site the associates moving through the site um so the the large stalls the 12 foot stalls
that are typical for an Amazon active loading and unloading zone are not um appropriate and since no loading is actually happening this is just dropping trailers and picking trailers up right the not well not appropriate not
preferred not right not preferred um because you can get more trailers if you have thinner spaces our spec is 15 specification is
15 typically typically for loading docks there many of the warehouses have come in and said the industry standard is 13t to allow them backing to they've requested and received waivers because that is an industry standard 13 12 is a
foot below it but then they're not they're not backing to a loading dock so that's a another number thrown in the mix cranber requires 15 the standard for loading docks that we've uh allowed the waiver for is 13 because that is the
industry standard for loading docks what's shown on the plan is 10 foot that's tight to for any turning movement unless you're backing straight in that's that's narrower as narrow as a park uh regular vehicle that that's very very
tight great drivers the mules know what they're doing they bring those trucks and I'm sure that their best drivers can do that 10 foot that is awfully tight uh for an 8 to n foot wide trailer and I
think something that you have uh brought is that it's not your site you have a landlord correct therefore this board has to consider if you were not on the site then we would
be left with widths that are five feet from our standard so let us process but it's just it's just helpful for us to understand and for you to understand how far apart we are right now understood understood and I think the distinction
that um sher's making is that this is not a loading area where people are coming and going and having access to the trailer this is simply parking a trailer and leaving it so that's hold on
one second so is there any um other uh municipality that has a standard for resting trailer storage trailers is there is there any standard that for for that specific use
well Cranbury standard for those park trailers is 15 foot they can request waiver from that but that is the storage base that we have in regardless of it's unloading or stored correct all right
that's so my my question was do any other municipalities have different standards for different uses of the trucks yes loading unloading is one thing storage we're learning is
different but to your knowledge there's not a there's not a separate standard for um cranber for use correct not the cranber for other municipalities yes there there can be standards for narrower spaces for trailer storage yes
that was my question yes okay thank you all right good to go okay and so we've talked about the waivers for the lack of Landscaping on one of the sides due to the the inability to remove pavement we've talked about the waiver for the uh
the aisle the space width of the trailer um stall there's also another waiver that the planner noted regarding the sidewalks and the lack of sidewalk within this rectangular uh trailer area and that
connectivity can you speak to why in your design you did not include sidewalks uh in that area yes um as I mentioned earlier this is not a location where any of the associates and definitely not any of the
public would have access to or would as far as pedestrian wise so there's not any pedestrians typically moving through this space as I understand it from the facilities operations team um so we left
the striping and the crosswalks to serve the existing associate parking as is to make sure that all the Associates in their parking lots still have the the parking striping that exists today we haven't made any changes or taken away
anything as far as crosswalks or striping related to the associate lot that is remaining an associate lot so it's my understanding from discussing this issue with the ownership with the uh applicant with the operations team this rectangular secured
trailer storage area would only be accessed by truck drivers and what they call ta's Transportation Associates which their sole responsibility is to move the trailers about that area they're not in your opinion or in your knowledge they're not intermingling with
the rest of the employees correct that's that's my understanding they have no reason to access other portions of this parking area that where where they would need a sidewalk for access okay and all of their access they would
be in the truck oh I don't want to testify Cherry all of their access sorry yes okay um those were the waivers let me just double check and I'll defer uh to the the board's Planner on this um I I I think two of two of the three waivers
addressed a lack of sidewalk in this new uh modified parking area um we spoke about the uh loading areas the size of the spaces oh and then there's the final one on page five of
the planning report can you clarify the aisle width um the existing aisle widths because we're not changing any aisle widths there's a requirement that the width of the aisles two-way aisles be at least 30 feet have you analyze that and
can you speak to what are the widths of the aisle yes we have um we did that just actually the rest of the exhibit okay we have another exhibit for that okay yeah all
right these last two exhibits that we prepared d and e want to do that but um we did that just to show but that we did the analysis but yes all all of the existing driveway widths meet the minimum
standards so we went ahead and added those Dimensions throughout the associate lot where it the two-way traffic will be so okay so it will comply there's no relief required no it does comply should
say so if there was a mistake um we apologize for any labeling that didn't show the 30 feet but that's the existing Drive aisles are 33 30 feet or more more okay and that was the last design weiver noted on page five of the planning
report um did you want to move in respond to the remaining comments I know there were some comments by the board's planner let's stick with let's stick with waivers first sure and as they're huddling up and pow wowing over there
let's we're gonna we're gonna uh first make sure for the uh board that the waivers have been satisfied or that this board can identify what the waivers are so just um there's two two waivers
listed here and I just want to make sure that I understand you said that the the one was that um the loading areas got to be at least 15 feet wide and 35 feet long so that was that one and then it says the two-way commercial or industrial drives must have a minimum width of 30 feet wide so so have you
satisfied both of them with what you're just saying right now so no the the last one there may be a there may be a typo or something on the plants but miss Miller's testimony is that they do comply there's no waer needed for the last one they're all 30 feet we do need
we are requesting relief from the code requirement that the loading space be a minimum of 15 feet wide and I think the justification that we provide is that there's no loading these are simply parking spaces that they're going to function as get it and then there there
are other waivers on the page before that oh I understand so um are you introducing your exhibits uh d and e which would then be six and seven um or we can do I I don't want to I think you're not let just say it you know
because I you just you mention it in passing so yeah I think I don't I don't think it's necessary I think her testimony is that she an she investigated that and she could confirm on the record that they all are 30 feet or more okay so we're just up to exhibit A5 that's it correct done anything else
and you said that the last um waiver here is actually satisfied okay all right we accept the testimony that the 30 feet has been satisfied without the ex okay can I get a clarification on that too uh when you say 30 foot two-way
circulation you're talking about just the driveways you're not talking about the circulation aisles through the parking for access to parking in the associates parking area that is not 30t that's correct yes okay it's just the driveways the entranceways to the truck parking and the entrance ways the two
entranceways into the associate uh parking areas that's correct so Andrew is that something that would be needed to be changed on their site plan uh labeled they label the circulation areas as 24t 25t there's
multiple different dimensions and that's one of my comments that make sure that it's I mean I know you'll get to that but that is labeled on the plan the driveways should be labeled as 30 foot and I think you've said you addressed that and you put the that dimension on the driveways we did but then we don't
have that plan right now let's we'll introduce it probably easiest let's introduce that's what I'm trying to trying to get to like you know will either have to be changed on the actual site plan at some point to we could do it as a condition or we can show it to you absolutely I just want to um you know make sure that that is going to be
a condition then yeah we can do it either way depending on whether you want the addition personally since you just have it on an exhibit it all should be shown on a site plan at the end right so that's what should happen Okay so again we'll defer to you madam
chair as to how you'd like to proceed I we can go through the review letters we can defer to your consultants if we haven't satisfied anything um that was raised um there were some other comments from your traffic consultant that we can address but um however you'd like us to
proceed so what I'd like to do now and what uh this board in our our process uh we allow our professionals then to address anything that you've not addressed in your testimony and we want to make sure first and foremost that our
uh professionals are satisfied uh and then we'll open it up to board questions for anything that they uh any other questions that they need in order to help us come to a conclusion and then also any questions from the public and then at the very right well we would
have questions from the public once once the board is satisfied we would have questions from the public uh certainly before we vote but we would have questions for the public and then depending on what those questions are we may go back to our professionals to answer those questions or go back to
your testimony uh to make sure that we fielded those questions so yes of course we're going to start with you Andrew this is a lot of traffic uh changes based on uh the fencing and the
uh movement so uh what do you have before I get into my comments I think we're maybe 2third or half of the way through a presentation because the associate parking area has significant changes that I think also should be presented and discussed the circulation
aisles are going from oneway circulation to two-way circulation uh we do have the end now where the fence is but there's also another substantial change right at the entrance to the uh building and that's where there'll be no circulation
and no parking it's just dead space that will be um blocked off with Planters and there's pedestrian ways in there and there's a lot going on that area that I think really should be discussed as part of the overall presentation before we
get into comment so we know what that area is going to look like and function like so but before we move on that right to compartmentalize is there anything on you know specifically other than anything that we have already
discussed um I think it's uh it's easier to clarify if there are specifics with this and then we move on to the second part and then we see how they go together understood and just focusing on that
truck area uh I can go through the comments that I have um the tractor Trail attorning analysis shall be provided uh again that will help us better determine what size space Works based on how they can uh physically get
those trucks to those uh stalls and what size would be um a reasonable size again we've granted waivers in the past for 13 feet to loading docks because that was said to be an industry standard but this
is a specific use that they're trying to do to park and uh store these trailers um for short time for short times uh and again it's by their own drivers it's not outside drivers coming in and do
doing this so that will have to be supported for the size of those trailer spaces uh one com that's not in my list but I'm going to ask this anyway if they're empty trailers which I didn't know they were empty trailers just looking at the plans
is a security fence needed for the empty trailers is usually we've seen the security Fen is for areas where there's active loading and active um trowers with you know maybe stored temporarily while they're trying to get to the Loading Docks why is that fence even
needed across the parking area you want to speak to that that's Amazon you I can I can tell you from working with the company that safety and segregation of truck activity versus their employees their Associates is Paramount and I'm guessing sher's gonna say the same thing
but Sherry go ahead right but do you there's Landscaping there's burms like you can't there the fencing is around areas that you couldn't drive a truck through so the question is I understand the fencing on the pavement area but I'm
not sure I understand the fencing through all of the Landscaping it's like closing it in and if they're empty I the safety risk I understand for pavement I'm not sure I understand a safety risk where there is Landscaping it just seems like a lot of fencing for
nothing for uh for what my understanding is when it comes to when the trucks are moving regardless of how or where Amazon wants it completely fenced off so that no one could ever just even accidentally step
through a landscaping Island and walk into that trailer yard when a trailer is being moved on or off of that site they are very safety oriented um and my understanding is that
is it it's more of a safety than it is necessarily a security item um because the safety teams are usually pretty on top of all of that but again it's not a building that you
own no but I I my understanding is is that if something ever was to happen it would be Amazon's responsibility if someone was hurt so being enclosing the area completely off
prohibits someone from walking anywhere when there's trucks moving okay understand okay okay uh that was comment two comment three and four they uh addressed with the buffer areas uh and I think
that was the appropriate thing to do to stripe that out with some of the suggestions that were talked about maybe keep continuous uh with that buffer area in the truck side and making sure that that works with the Turning analysis um number five the project
narrative described two security gates the one security gate for access the driveway into the trailer space uh I think there's some labeling that needs to be redone and maybe a detail provided with that because I think the detail was
provided for the swing gates to the um Associates parking uh and that will be closed unless an emergency occurs but the other gate the slide gate will be uh an active GATE and that detail should be provided in the plan set yes we will do
so uh another comment I had is because the fence is going AC across the truck and uh associate area that some kind of reflectors or some kind of uh something that the vehicle was traveling can see before they get to the fence if this is
a black fence and at night time a car would could drive right through it without even thinking about it and if you had reflectors or some kind of detail again that buffer area will help because that's marking on the pavement it should have glass beads or whatever
so it shines well but reflectors on the fence however that's done would be helpful uh number seven deals with the main entrance to the building uh eight is the building again turning analysis
that again is for the fir Tru through the reconfigured employee area that we can discuss Mr fando we actually brought an exhibit for that this evening to show you if you'd like to see it that we took the Township's we took cranberry's fire
largest fire truck and ran it R turning template can we wait for the presentation on the associate parking area because that circulation has to be discussed so uh and then all pavement Mark those 10 and 11 just standard comments and then the parking uh is more
related to the associate parking area so I think that's good for the truck area for now and we'll get that other thanks Andrew Mr hoder any comments on this specific portion yeah I have a number of comments but I'm going to hold them to
later the only comment I have question um it appears that the building has been set up with Breakaway doors for each loading area that could be there in the future that that may line up or not line up with the new truck parking areas that are
here would the applicant be uh happy with the condition that those doors will not be open I'm assuming well you're an architect so are they are they built in place or can they be rolled up is it the existing Overhead Doors well
they if you look if you just look at the building you can see that it looks like they're insets where there's going to be maybe a future loading space if Amazon wants it so yeah okay I just want to make sure that they're not gonna it's not gonna
happen as part of this application because that changes everything you took my question oh I'm sorry I saw your great mind think Alik yeah there you go no you said it before you might thank you you picked up on
it yeah it's vular parking but they're going to be putting regular Park they're going to be putting truck par truck parking in front of it so no it should and I'm saying we don't want them open okay don't want that as a loading area that's a new loading area that have
to be disc loading docks because then it would turn it into a loading are changes the nature of what's Happening especially with the 10 foot wide so I think we can stipulate that those won't be because that would impacts what we're proposing this evening okay and do we know that they're
not really roll up doors they're just architectural features we're gonna have to con we're gonna have to confer with the client because neither of us are know we don't we're not identifying which doors you're referring to from familiarity with the building so we'll we'll find out for
you it look like doors to me loading doors or like yeah they're actual loading doors not docks because there's no there's no rubber bumpers or any of that stuff it's not but you know you're you're now creating an area where you
have um your trucks right up against it there's no no reason you can't just put the door up and throw some stuff in there if it's at the same height and that's not what this application is about correct correct I think um maybe uh what we should do is stipulate
exactly where they are and then you know have them stipulate that they will not be used for within the fence area yeah because I don't know if he understands where the doors are compared to what you're saying you know you're seeing it on here they don't match the SP they could be you know they could be
offset would we make that a condition of approval absolutely that they they can't load or unload I just want to make sure that they understand where they are in relation to the parking spes they're showing because I don't I don't know you know what we're talking you
know what we're talking about but they're not used in I've confirmed they're not used in an operation so we don't there's no objection to a stipulation that those can't be converted to operational as part of this application that would require you know is that satisfactory that that would require a return to
board those were going to become operational I would think so no objection as long as there's no objection fine anything else Mr hoder not for now all right Miss Laney anything on this
particular aspect the one question I had um had to do the reason I brought it up with regard to The Pedestrian circul on the truck area is it seems to exist on the north side of the building where there's sort of a striped pedestrian
path um leading to the building and and you know along uh between where the trucks park and so I'm curious if there is a reason why it would exist in the north side and not the South Side yes and that's because the north
side is an active lot for loading and unloading so assoc are moving pedestrian wise through that part of the trailer yard and they access the building that way the Southside trailer storage area
that we're proposing no one will be moving from moving on their feet okay through there and accessing the building okay and the only other question I had was uh
is there any landscape I understand you can't penetrate the asphalt but along that fence between that fence and the um the associate parking uh is there a potential for Planters or something
along those lines to just maybe meet the nature or intent of the of the ordinance we can talk to the landlord about that we proposed some larger Planters at the front entrance and were
told that we were not going to be allowed to be utilizing larger Planters by the landlord um we have a very long list of approval conditions from them and having large Planters um was one of
them so we can try to see if there is something that we cans were um if those Planters were a condition because you cannot um disturb the asphalt um and I understand you're negotiating
with a landlord and you're negotiating with us but I think it's a fair question given that they've put restrictions in parameters um that um I think should be asked for that reason we could certainly take that back and maybe work with your
planner if it's on the size or what that would look like because correct me if I'm wrong we had an applicant last year that almost the same situation they we divided off the parking lot and I think we put Planters and yeah I think so too yeah we can we'll certainly take
that back and we'll agree to work with your planner to see what type of planter can be you know that the landlord will agree to okay while we're on this section um I'm going to open it up to the board I want to make sure that you're clear on this
before we go to the traffic circulation explanation so that we can uh compartmentalize so um for the passenger area for the yeah uh for right now I'm just going to ask the uh Township committee and the board you have any
questions not in any particular order um but if any of you have questions uh for the applicant now would be a good time to ask those questions on this particular area yeah sure um I I just I want to um you know we
started out this conversation with parking spaces at 987 and then a little bit less a little bit more and with us removing now what may be more parking spots I just would like to hear at the very end of all of this where we end up in terms of what remains in parking
spots sure um we can get you an exact number but we can certainly represent that we're well above what cranberry requires for this facility we're still going to be well above even with Mr Miranda's incorporation of office parking which may not have been part of
the original calculation will still vastly exceed what the town requires by code but we can certainly you know break that down and get you an exact number because we did lose additional spots by lose additional spots by providing that buffer that Mr Miranda was was seeking
so we can certainly get you a number are you satisfied that they are meeting the requirement or do you would you be uh are are you requesting a specific number because if you request a specific number we'd need to put that in the I'm not requesting a specific number but I know that we went through the conversation
and Sharon you were so good to pull up the resolutions from past saying that this you know this is kind of how it needed to be and if they um are are stating that they will still have plenty of parking I think that what they need to will do you know if you approve the
application as a condition is to uh you know reflect the total the total result of the parking on the plans right yeah I I'd like to know that I'd like to have the same exact number too are we
going from 900 to 600 are we going from 300 to 200 200 whatever it's helpful in our resolutions to know where we landed uh at the end of this and what we agreed to absolutely an exact number yeah okay anything else no thank
you when oh I got a bunch of questions um let let's go right up to the beginning I mean we're you were looking for 53 to park 53 trucks or storage trailers or the trailer part on the site that's what
you're requesting um does that mean Amazon is increasing the amount of truck traffic into the site every day or is that just stuff coming in and they're
squirreling it away all over the site right now and don't have a place to put it because that's I want to get that clarified here that's a great question yes from the discussions with the operations team they are dealing with
some congestion issues in the active yard right now because of the need for additional places to put the empty trailers that are kind of hugging the Stalls that they need to use for Access so the intent is not an increase in
capacity it's just to manage the current situation and make the operations more smooth and and make the the active yard also safer by not having so many moving through there my understanding sher's the the empties need to go somewhere to
make room for the ones that are backed up waiting to come in and this overflow lot give them a place to sit until yes the tractors come and pick them up and take them off site that's correct so we're so for the record we're not
anticipating extra loads coming in and out of the site it's existing loads that are already there correct um and and as far as turnaround rates now are we going to be looking at um moving these trucks in and out of that
storage lot 247 or just during a certain period of the day um what's the plan for that are they just you know is it just during the shift or when they get unloaded I I don't know how that how that's going to be Invision to work that's a great
question I I unless Sher knows we haven't been instructed that they're going to be coming at any different times than current operations so whatever is occurring out there today is going to continue to occur that's 247 that's the way it's going to continue to operate again this is really and I don't
want to testify but Cherry this is not adding really a new function it's really just putting a new location to get these trailers to sit somewhere so that they don't clog up the guard houses correct that's correct and everything is on the site the these
trailers are not leaving the site and going on public roads to access back to this new overflow this is all on Amazon internal site circulation um that that um is being proposed do you think that by doing this
this will um reduce the stack up on the main road as far as trucks coming in and stacking up waiting to come in would it be helpful uh for that um that issue during peak
times I I'll be hesitant to speak of the operations because I'm not on site all the time that's fair but from what I've been told there is a congestion uh concern on the site so this would help alleviate that which theoretically could
understand that there's congestion on the side my question is as an engineer would this in any way be helpful for the congestion and is that the per is that part of the purpose yes I would that I would under
assume that that is the that would be the case okay thank you can I make a point of course I've been on site I've watched the operations been many applications in this area the concern is that any empty trailers might be St Sor
in the outside Loops the uh so Amazon's very good at keeping their trucks in their area but they are uh filling that area you said 90% or whatever I haven't seen too many of the trucks outside on that uh loop road but if they start
storing them there because they're out of sight they're not blocking public circulation but it is a circulation aisle and trucks get around it and they might store them temporarily I think this area would make better sense but again remember this is now on the other
side of the building from where all this operation is taking place and that that's something that should be kept in mind as well that the trucks were kept to the north of the building so they were between the two Warehouse buildings kind of buffering what was going on on
and very separate from the automotive or vehicle vehicular and that's a bigger picture we're focusing in here on this conversion of the parking foot you take the whole building into account there is a circulation road and it would be nice to keep that free of any empty trailers
but the idea was to keep the trucks and trailers between the buildings and okay the buildings would buffer any of the truck loading and circulation oper operations and I'm just bringing that in as my observations from driving through
the site um occasionally okay so my next question was was the width of the of this of the um the space I I I personally have a problem with that um and I have a problem if we're going to be going you know from an industry standard that
we've granted a waiver on for 13 feet down to 10 feet because now we're just creating a whole new thing for anybody to come in in the future and say well you gave it 10 feet to them you know now it you know so I have a problem with
that I wouldn't recommend the 10 foot and I I have that in my letter their detail shows 12 foot the typical space uh shown on the plan in plan space says 10 foot so there's two different uh 12 foot is even below what we've given that
waiver for because of the industry standard to the Loading Docks in the past so again there's a couple of different numbers 10 12 and our 15 13 being the industry standard so four numbers we have to work with 13 we've allowed in the past because of the
loading docks that that was the waiver 15 is our standard size 10 is what's shown on the plan and 12 is what's shown in the detail four different numbers that we're looking at okay and and um the last thing I have is additional
screening if we're going to be putting like I said the was these were passenger cars in this area before should we require additional screening or do we need can we put additional screening in um in that area extra landscaping or
whatever that you know in addition that's already there you know to try to hide the these trailers better I don't know if we could do that ex yeah it there's existing Landscaping but it was it was meant to
to hide passenger vehicles not trailers because trailers were never parked on that side of the building well it's going to be hard to add Landscaping inant there's only so much space there people can get creative okay so that okay your point your point is taken all
right right that's it okay all right we're gonna work our way around this side of the table and see what questions you guys have on this particular area and then we'll move to the uh bigger issue of circulation and the impact on the um the car the car area the car area
yeah so so the warehouse um to the West what what what is that one huh is okay yeah is it the same landlord or different different
owner I I don't I'm not aware these are separate I don't know if this is a condominium I don't know if they're separate ownership I have no I don't have any knowledge of who owns that building um and then my next question is going to be how does the truck traffic
get back to to that building how does the truck traffic get from where to where you know from um heightstown cranberry Station Road back to that rear Warehouse what's the flow of traffic in general like I I feel like we're missing
a lot of we're missing some key testimony here how things well that's a testimony we're going to go to you after we we finished just this parking area and the uh sectioned off area then the next part of the testimony is going to be about traffic flow and uh where the
trucks go so I I think that's going to be answered um so save that one right because I I looked at that too like where is the traffic circulation that goes back into all does this affect and our trucks is this just yeah you know that's the main right up that that
access road is kind of the the main entry of that rear rear building okay now you're putting all these trucks in front it's just a different sight planning approach yeah yes ma'am oh yes I was just going
to respond to that um based on our understanding which is limited on because we don't know this landlord or this property but our understanding is that yes they share this main access
internal park access and then access their site Beyond on the I'm sorry on the Southwest part of the property and then they cross over to their property at this point and then does that road also
go up to the uh to the next access road as well so they could come in the other access road as well where all the trucks are coming in now up up further north right there yes right there how are the empty trucks going to get to the empty truck lot from
that I think that's so yes so they will leave the active yard on the north side of the property and go through the um guard house guard house sorry and then they'll come and use the
internal Road and come down I'm sorry along the east side of the building and then join this shared driveway with that other industrial building and they'll move to
the west and then access at the Southwest portion of this the last driveway on on Amazon's property my recommendation is that path not be used you also have the path where they can go out and use the circulation aisle between the two warehouses there's a
common driveway between if you you go correct if you go up there's a common driveway between the two warehous there and that they use that around the back so that they're not passing the associates parking area because once you
put the trucks passing the associates parking area then you have a mix of shift workers coming and going and the trucks passing through that I would strongly recommend that they go that way if at all possible okay yeah
I think we would confer with the the operations team on this I know that they need to go through a guard shaft in all directions I'm not aware that there's a guard shaft at that location for them to go through trucks have to be checked in
and checked out every time they leave the I see what you're saying the one guard houses to the side there and then they would go out to thead they would have to go out to the road to get to that middle circulation can you add a second guard
house is that is that a a possibility for what you want to do with your uh with storing your trucks is it is it possible at a second guard house where what location in the rear so that you
can use the traffic pattern to the north uh the traffic pattern uh to the West versus the traffic pattern to the east so that you're going around the back side of the building instead of mixing with the uh shift changing
traffic given that given that empty trucks will be empty at a variety of times you may be emptying trucks right at the change of shift so if you could use the back side that would to our
traffic engineer appear to be um appear to be a more direct path and a less um uh what what am I looking for I'm going to say less congested path and a less and
less mixing with the vehicular traffic that's not even on our property no when they come out can they go back this way to to to circulate behind the building there's two problems with that that's what we're talking
about there's that's not that roadway is not constructed there's no Loop Road currently it stops right where fing we're done then and it's also off the property you'd have to travel onto the adjacent lot Sher that's the correct if there's
no Road and you're off your lot then there is no road to connect you on the backside that's unfortunate because that would be a quicker route and a less uh congested route uh to go but it sounds like that's not a
possibility did you get that Andrew okay can so there is no we're going to finish with Phil no but to finish this point there's no road on the western part of that building that goes from the unloading
area doesn't connect it doesn't conect doesn't connect there's no road so it's just for emergency access only then emergency vehicle only the area that they use now for uh truck loading and unloading with trucks on both sides on the North side has a
gate on the west side that goes to an existing driveway that they could use right that's what I'm asking but they'd have to figure out their security and if they need a couse they need a car they don't otherwise I was just talking to Andrew they would have to go out to the road and then then turn around in the
roadway and go back to go to use to come around and use that that uh uh that yeah which is there is right to the west side that will bring you directly to this right that would be the direct that
probably has a knock closed and for security purposes there's another gate to the north that's in the middle of this that could also circulate it's a little bit longer but it it will keep traffic from heading getting on height cranber
Station Road and turning back to this way the other alter of their shoving is down past the employee parking and again the access to this East employe Park parking is right there where the trucks will be passing another entrance to this employee parking that it would have to
pass and then it would have to make a left turn here to go west towards this trailer storage area so this the other way passes most of the employee parking otherwise it's out to the road
and turn gated or fence areas they're closed but the the idea is something down here certainly would be a shortest distance between two and not have to pass all the employees and the preferred in terms of
the traffic trucks separation from in the original ping board approval site plan proposal right now use micophone sure Sherry The Proposal as you testified was would be to come down this
internal roadway correct and not go back out onto heightstown anticip they could but that's not what's being proposed this is being proposed to use stay inside this keep keep it on lot and then you would
make a right turn back through well I'm sorry back down the Loop Road which mixes with the the neighbor then you come in got it don't we don't have we don't have the rights to the
driveway to the north of our property line and we would be mixing with the traffic of the adjacent property coming southbound if we but aren't you mixing with the adjacent uh property on the lower
anyway yeah that's a shared that's a shared driveway right it's shared on both sides so I'm not seeing but I um and and look if you want your site administrator to to give us more insight it just I I see the obstacle but I see like
a great opportunity to make this um you know to make this a lot uh smoother if you could use that upper corner so I I also that whole that whole rear um car parking lot doesn't look like it's even
used and there are some Google map pictures of trucks being parked back there diagonally for storage so it's just seems hard to believe that you can't make that work something can't be made to work I I'm not understanding that because I'm looking at the um
property line the property boundary it's behind the right we have two rows of trucks right and the one the one dash line says property bound that's behind the second second
row and then so the area that you're talking about that says existing driveway is that uh controlled by Amazon or is that somebody else with it's a shared driveway on
top yeah but okay understand no that's a gate moving moving forward uh moving towards the east guess to the next little red line no to your right to your
right this could be easily modified with a cross access and I think I think we have a situation here where uh we have some I hate to say it fatal flaws uh where this board has always been very good about not mixing
pedestrian traffic with truck traffic or car traffic with truck traffic and and that's not happening in this site plan um and and maybe they need to rethink how they're going to do it and go back to Amazon and try to figure out whether or not there does have to be another guard shat or maybe there has to be a
cut through going through somewhere where uh there's internal circulation and not going out to the roadway to get these trucks to the rear because you don't want to go back out to the road there's residents here tonight you know want on the road and look trucks take
the path of lease resistance and even though there is an internal channel for them the possibility of them going back out on the road and increasing that congestion is there um and I think that is really something that on this site
plan we want to uh combat so sorry for interrupting no that's that's fine it's all bills and no it's a good we'll give them a minute to look at and then you're not
avoiding that on the south side of the property no matter what on the existing driveway which is not controlled by Amazon they share that you still have trucks going to MK passing that uh associate parking lot so you're so we
don't want to add to that though we don't want to add I understood but you no matter what you're not you're not eliminating that for that neighboring property they're not coming through that's true but we don't want to so these are these are uh we don't want the
trucks going back out on the road and with the route that they're showing they they would go back out and then come back in through there we're just trying to eliminate uh that uh being additive to yeah and also we just for the planning board's uh purposes and goals
we do really like as much as we can to completely separate vehicular traffic from truck traffic just from a a standard that we that we set so so just so I can have Clarity on what the concerns are and what the concerns are not is is is the board concerned with
this because I heard mixing iers so so the rest of the board hasn't spoken yet so I can't I can't give you uh because because if we go we could go any which way if we ultimately have to get here and if this is a problem then there doesn't matter how we get there so I just want to make sure that this is okay
then if this is the issue if if the issue is this path then I think what I'm hearing is there's a preference to try to make this work yes okay so let's uh let's we'll let the Board finish and I know you have more testimony to go and and uh we'll in
about 15 minutes we'll take a five minute break but I I want to finish this up and let our Board finish with their questions because I want to make sure they're clear yeah absolutely okay um I'm just I'm just going to hit all my items
real quick because I think you've got a lot to address and possibly to come back um the one question so operation wise you know how many existing trucks how many existing loading bays are there so
what's going to be you know if there's 100 and you're adding 50 does that mean you know how how often is this happen what's the what's the you know the flow change in the rate um
and it just seems like adding 50 trucks you're going to increase flow in inherently you're going to increase flow um I don't are they adding 50 trucks or are they just trucks out of the way quicker so
that more trucks can come in and a but they're already on the property I don't know I don't I have a hard time leaving that but okay no I'm try you look at that map and it's it's full so want to take those 50 of those trucks move them here that will allow other trucks to
come in we just need real testimony I think some traffic understanding the rate of trucks coming into the site you know what was what was the original assumptions of the original application what is it now what is it going to be we're missing some key
I think and then how all this flow going to work between the three warehouses trucks and regular cars well testimony was provided just earlier that it's not supposed to increase any additional loading but I would love a traffic
consultant to be testifying to all this or somebody from Taken you know I think that would be to to their point I think it would be helpful to this board to have the traffic information so that we have real data to uh work with to
affirm understood yeah okay yep not against the project I'm just no it's a great question I appreciate that no it's it's you know we need to make sure diligence to make sure we understand it all absolutely absolutely um next question I had was the thickness of the
paving it looks like there is concrete All Along The Bays that were meant designed to be future Bays so that concrete I assume was meant for trucks um the paving on the opposite side being proposed is asphalt how thick is it is
it really meant to have trucks parked on it um to the point of screening um oh I'll stick my list I guess to come back to that but the walkway um egress uh there's several
egress doors from the warehouse going through this space there's no man doors for them to get out in emergency how does all that work uh the fencing I should always have Bill back clean up
sorry uh the fencing um you know part of me in terms of the original concept would love to see all the see more trucks along the building and then keep your outer parking if the parking's wasted not being used anyway at least that's that's less intrusive in terms of
the main access to the building behind visually especially if you're not screening you know meeting our screening standards I think I think that's better to have the trucks away from the access road not all the way up to it um even if there's more of them along the building because that's the way it was originally designed
anyway um if there is fencing we're proposed land you know I don't see any reason not to meet our design standards in terms of screening along the access road for that fencing
um how do you put fence you you you said you do not want to put um Landscaping in for the fencing because you don't want to disturb the asphalt but how do you put a fence in without disturbing the asphalt you got foundations you're you're gonna be
digging it up what so yeah do you want one does the fence require surf surface mounting all the fences oh the details show one foot diameter concrete foundations typ I apologize that's
Amazon typical standard yeah it does show Gate Post and concrete below the crossline so just needs to be details of how that's all supported then um but is that everywhere is that just
where the asphalt is in the planting area I assume that area is clean fill and can be dug up to put a fence in does that have foundations can more Landscaping go in there I don't know anything about the previous approvals and and you know what's capped and how
deep it's capped there's trees in there so I would assume that that whole uh Earth area is clean I don't know that's a question um it should be answered additional trees along the
drive you know in terms of screening um the main gates how how will those be operation by the drivers will provide adequate details for those you know is it clicker whatever like how does the public you're doing this to keep the public and pedestrians out for
safety but how does it how does it work uh signage there's nothing in here about signage there's existing signage directional signage there that has to come out new sign just has to go in so that that'll Al be part of the application
um and then you know again just going back to traffic and testimony traffic analysis where the trucks coming and going a nice diagram kind of showing all that for the entire site it looks like that rear old parking
lot from the Google Images I've seen doesn't have any any car parking in there it looks like sometimes there's trucks parking in there which is this is going to solve which is good um but can that be used in some way that makes this a complete plan all
right I'm sorry I let bill go first but does anyone else have questions yeah uh just kind of building off of what bill was bringing out as far as uh excuse me a lot of clients in front of me um to to
the point of opening opening up 56 spots on the rear of the building and moving those trailers to the front enable that enables a greater efficiency for Amazon a company that trades on efficiency I'd imagine that by having additional spots
you'd be able to squeeze in a couple more trucks in your daily operation so uh to that point it's hard to believe that you'd move 56 trailers and not fill those spots at 90% capacity and so to Bill's point you know
we really like to have a number as to what is being serviced today versus what the goal would be by opening this up uh moving 56 trailers how many more trucks do you believe that you'd have in and out at a site in a day it can't be a difference of zero otherwise there'd be
no point to this operation I mean from my point of view uh and then going back to parking spots um sites overp parked uh that was stated uh however it was purposely overp parked in the beginning so that it could
accommodate uh multiple shifts um is there still a desire to accommodate multiple shifts um how many people are parking today um how many uh is that double that shift change and uh you know and I'd really
like to get uh just circling back yeah it's it's important for us to know what is actually required and it was stated or test uh testified that it would be more than adequate but that's not really a number so uh let's let's nail that down um and again yeah there's five
doors that open into this locked in space it would be nice to have some details how somebody found themselves there in the middle of the night had they get out of there I'm good just real on that again we had
another um client where we had that situation where we had to have them install a um basically an emergency gate to get out of the parking area you know you couldn't get in foot gate like a like a a pedestrian pedestrian gate in
casee they had to exit the building and get out in that parking lot and they couldn't get out of the fence area we have done that before at one way out gate they can you know crash bar they can get out and and get out of that so that's follows up on what you
said we we do have one of those we'll just make sure that it's very adequately called out and obvious but we were planning for that we like adequately called out yes we yeah all right yes sir um yeah I have some questions about
the Landscaping on the the southern side of the parking I'm I'm not really familiar with the site but aren't there fire hydrants on there and will they be inside the fence or I mean they're not shown anywhere um fire
hydrants um I have to look at the survey so find where they're located today these only come from experience of other site plans that we've done that's a great question to find out where those are um there there's one fire there is one
in the fenced area and there's one outside of the fenced area but those should be shown on the plans for the next time we come back I think they should both be ins in your set you go on your so first sheet topography but
you're going to give a um an exhibit for that how what are we up to six okay surve I'm sorry what is it in terms of the ad numbers
there not an arital surve okay so where is that then okay where it says topography okay and it's that um January 15th date uh 2024 okay and it's the first sheet of your
three sheets of the topography survey so say okay so if everyone can see that sheet currently where the West driveway that comes into the location where we're looking to put the trailer storage there's on the east side of the driveway
the curb curves around into North Way North into the site and and then parallels to the building if at the top of where it parallels to the building you'll see a little circle just below it that has a circle with two little wing
lines that come out of either like here yes it's blue on the sheet that's the existing fire hydrant to remain in that landscape planter oh and there's none within the fence line but there might have been some
outside okay and um the empty trailers are they all all Amazon owned trailers or are there third party trailers are we going to be squeezing other people's trucks into these tight little spaces they're just they're no they're
they're Amazon I mean that's well I don't want to say they're Amazon trailers but they're associated with the Amazon operation is that but they're like a third party trucker that you know um I mean I mean you're going to increase the likelihood of damage on these trailers you know squeezing them
in like that um you know these third party people are going to say who's responsible for yeah I think that's out of our jurisdiction at this but also you know sending these trucks on the road with maybe damaged tail lights and and so it's something we'd want to
consider so I think more to your point the um the 10 foot width the 10 foot width is a concern is a concern yes sure got it you good I'm good all right de I I mean I Echo all of this I'm was I'm very
concerned and I I looked to Andrew too the 10 foot thing just doesn't seem to fly in from my non-engineering brain if you have a 35 foot space with a trailer that fits in it lengthwise don't you need a bigger space to spin it in and
out like 10 foot to me I don't know how you without making the interior of it bigger it just doesn't seem to me that that's even possible so I have a real problem with that and I'm wondering and and your te
you having these trucks spin in to that empty trailer park that seems to me too I've requested turning analysis and I really think that should be provided okay to support any you know access to the parking as well as circulation
through that area it I mean I'm so sorry because you're we're sending you back to the drawing bar in some respects but there's all this extra parking or parking available on the east side of the building it would
seem like a better idea to put it there where they're not having to go through The Pedestrian parking lot just take the spots away there to your point you have more spots than we need so put that empty tractor trailer parking over there
so it doesn't really have to interfere associate here to to the plan to the plan right got it yeah like over here they could just come there and that
would reduce the flow Trail parking here trucks could just go that's a really good point um I think a lot of movement with a lot of trucks and trailers all of a sudden close to the pedestrians again um to miss Anderson's
point we this board does have um a standard of trying to keep the vehicles and the trucks separate or at least having the least amount of uh distance between you know storage and parking and look Amazon is the uh you know they are
the epitome of efficiency um we're not feeling that with with this site um so I I think we've we've given you a lot um of feedback of of what we uh prefer I I
don't know that it's I I don't know that you'd like to go further I think the other part the reason I kept these separate is that I believe the other part of your uh testimony will have a a a bearing on having a traffic study
knowing you know what we uh the information that we'll need for that so I just feel like um it would be um Madam chair I can I can help you out there's no sense for us to continue we've received enough feedback where I
think we can address a lot of these issues before we you know take more time on the associate entrance changes I think you're 100% right okay um you and the other board members have given us some very good information that I think
would be beneficial if we go back get some of these questions answered um take a real look at some of these movements I I do think Mr Mr fand's request for that turning template although we have one for the fire truck having one for the tractor trailer that's going to be
making all these movements is just as important so um we're happy to to to be sure to to to to do that make sure it works and and resubmit these materials in enough time so that your professionals can review them so I I
think we should you know with respectfully I appreciate you accommodating um the the the work that's being done um where do we can can I add a couple of things I want to make sure that they
make these changes when they come back they're only like three I think that's a great idea if you don't mind I'm no I don't mind okay so I did do a letter February 24th I'm only going to go through a couple things um one thing I was a little taken back by the fact that a lot of the comments said verify and
field on on your plans and I I'd like you to try to verify beforehand because I don't want to have to have a situation where we're out inspecting it and it's wrong and and it has to come back and now you got to come back to the board because something is four feet off or
five feet off and you can't fit what you wanted to fit so if you could try to use the survey unless you have no confidence in that survey um to try to get rid of most of those verifying field uh notes that's first thing um you got to do
details for pavement arrows stop bars speed bumps uh pavment prair details uh Breakaway signs for you know as per NJ do uh regular dot standards uh traffic devic signs all those things should be incorporated on if you're going to make
those kind of changes that's what I have okay no you go um with the rest of your testimony is there something like that's really GL ing that we should know about you know
with the with the passenger car area that would would well I think I don't want you to come back and then you present all this other stuff like well I think what we might offer I think what we we might offer them are a couple of opportunities we could we could offer
them a trip to the DRC we could offer them um you know a continuation so those are things that that could be offered but to his question are there any other big surprises that we should not so one of the questions and it's actually thank you for raising that that we would like
a little feedback on is The Pedestrian area for the entrance um is as currently proposed in the plans you have shows Planters um as sort of a separation device um and I
know Mr Miranda I believe had some concerns about whether or not planters would be adequate to protect that area area um that was one of the items that we were looking to discuss this evening to see because again with the uh with
the with the issue we have with the landlord where we can't do too much subsurface work if any um we're trying to be creative with the Planters and other things there's a potential for ballards that we talked about um would ballards be a little more palatable Mr
Veranda currently they have 14 by4 and 12inch high planters itic uh Along The Pedestrian way that's not stopping a vehicle um ballards would be better I don't know the Aesthetics that's something that would have to be taken
into account um it's an area in front of the building that currently is used as oneway circulation that will be cut off there's actually some delivery parking in that area you know I observed it and that would be cut off too that the entrance would be left for pedestrians
that's a good thing um the way the circulation Works in that area because you're making it two-way circulation we didn't get into this presentation I'm kind of giving a heads up for that area that you're talking about that's a concern there's another north south
driveway and that driveway aligns directly with the main staircase there's a handicap ramp that comes down but there's a staircase and the new driveway aisle shoots right for The Pedestrian way and there's no landing at the bottom there's balls on either side of the uh
stairs so that if to prevent the stairs from getting damaged but anybody walks off the bottom stair is now in an active circul two-way circulation aisle that that really is a concern and my thought there is the stairs could either be moved to the side
next to the handicap ramp so that it's out of the north south access uh vehicle aisle or turn towards the there's a shelter area there's a Andrew you're going to have to have them uh put it on
the uh display uh give us where we're talking no I think he's just he's just bringing up I I'm just trying to give them feedback they haven't even presented this yet so my feedback is an extension of my comments in here you've seen the comment you know I'm just trying to flesh that out a little bit so
you understand what I was saying in words and I think you're getting the point here about that north south aisle if you even use the same circulation theme after you go back and Rec figure and do what you need to do so I'm giving
the feedback yeah we appreciate that we want to make sure we capture as much as possible the next the next round and I think that's a discussion for the next hearing when or next step of this uh should they come back and make those adjustments then we can be
talking about something that's been uh Revis so it shows more appropriate access for the pedestrians there okay thank you I just like to add to that if you do do Planters just how does it get water how
does it actually live so they're not just Planters with dead plants in them because I'm not sure how it's aesthetic is truly important to us but but we have we have seen that uh not go well but we I mean I understand you're working with a cap site so there's
limitations aesthetically it is what it is it's already what it is um but I gu another concern or question too is just if you with these large Gates and a six foot high fence if you're anchoring it to ASA I don't know how you you've got
to come up with a structural engineering detail to do that that's challenging just yeah just just just a little thing just a little thing I think we're away from that yeah is there is there uh any feedback a recommendation
Planters versus maybe decorative fencing or fencing that is um with Ballard is that a we're done I saw that oh we're good it's it is what it is out there I mean it's okay I think you got a lot of
Paving you can just restripe to make it safe and move things around and don't put in something if you could do planners and do it correctly and make some rather have less that's done well than a bunch of planners that are empty and dead you know yeah so or if there's
you also have employee um tables along the way if you can put umbrellas with color anything to make it more pedestrian friend friendly I me right now it's just it is very yeah those would be suitable screening it's
ordinary yeah so I be creative I have visited the site many times and I I do think it is it it's a very uh well done site and a very well-run site and um I I do appreciate that I think you guys have
some marching orders but we would like to hear from the public so that you do have the Public's feedback so as you have been taking um uh recommendations from our board um I think it's important to also hear what the public has to say
um and I believe in order to do that kind of in a in an orderly way because we need the microphone um we could yes we um how do we want to do that do they does the public need to be on record
from the table or can the public use the microphone and stand at the um we can use the mic and stand over there okay um but okay so are you if you're taking I'm just saying if anyone's making comments like any testimony then they should be
sworn in so but not oh the Public Public yeah okay so any public that strictly a question I'm just asking a question you know that's what they're saying but they're not making a statement about their experiences over there you know then fine but if they are going to do
that they're just G to tell you they've seen you know soic and it's bad so it sounds like we'll need to swear them in no matter what name address to cover it yeah name address and a swear yep okay all right we can do that and we can make sure everybody's
comfortable with that um so microphone will go on that stand uh that will give the public an opportunity so that we can see them we can hear them um yeah is that okay right
there yeah and the reason that we have to have the public talking to the mic is so that we have it recorded so that it's admissible as testimony if that makes sense so right now I questions yeah so yeah and then we'll we'll Circle back
with what our next what our plans are but I think I'd rather hear from the public before we do that sure absolutely um our public has waited very patiently is there anyone from the public that would like to make a statement or have a question okay yes s the testimony that you're
about to give before this board is the whole truth nothing about the truth so help you okay help all right um for the secretary name and address Wendy Dyan 32 heightstown cranberry Station Road cranber New Jersey Jersey um as you all can see right here
there's a ton of parking spots and as I understand it it is Amazon's testimony that they just want to have spots over on this area here I have to ask you the
same thing employee are in the employee area which is on the west side on the West Side southern side Southwest yeah um that they want to make the trailer spots here right in the on the western
Southwestern side and they want to make them 10 foot wide how many spots are here or in currently we know just proximate we say 200 and how big are they they the 13 the 12 the 10 the 15 how big are
they I'm just saying you're all you're doing is putting 53 measly spots here if you just took a foot or two off of these from each one and if you don't if you're not going to increase trailer traffic there's your flow there there's your extra spot don't worry about planners or
nothing that's all goodbye thank you so that was a re okay all right M swear you in please Station Road okay and you swear that the test okay you swear that the testimony that you're about to give before the boards the truth hold truth nothing but
the truth okay 54 years I like to food woods but anyway mov right along there's a lot of things you need to be to the mic so that there there's a lot of things that
probably I can only think of two people that knew anything that went on back when cby was building that place all right and one of the main things that how they get approvals of that place especially with the traffic it's two
years or so after the third building was filled that was a little building in the back after that building F filled they had to do another traffic study so they can actually get the real information pertaining to when all three buildings
were operating what traffic was at Peak never happened all right that never happened so you really don't know what's going on out there all right that that bothered me to no end when when he when he did
that without him doing now can you s say to this person we need a new traffic study time is on now because it didn't fulfill the agreement of the original one if you really want to know what the traffic is you got to start at the beginning and what it is
now that's a big plus and the only reason I know that because I went to meetings for 10 years I didn't miss a meeting the reason you found out about the dirty dirt that they wanted to put there and what they were going to do with it is because of my wife she found that under Indian Run Brook there's
Indian Run Reservoir they were going to put toxic clean out Phil they were going to call it Phil sludge from wasn't the scr what up there they were sending to Pennsylvania clean it not agree to have
any toxins or tested for toxins bring it back and put in that site on top of the water on top of the res and you know we know where that water goes It goes to the main river that feeds most of New Jersey so I've been there now one of the
things that is my biggest concern is that the southernly side of the building where you're talking about putting this lot okay that's the side that faces my house the reason the doors and the
parking and all that stuff's on the other side is because I came to the meeting and I complained about the amount of noise that would be made from all those trucks going 24 hours a day moving in and out and the door slamming hooking and unhooking that's the reason why you were
parked on the other side so I want to take that into consideration now still again here if you could come up with me prove to me that they'll meet all the noise standards that they'll meet the traffic that that what's going on with the traffic all right then you should
then you know you go from there another thing that happened was the going out entrance on the southern east side the last Drive okay they they were going to make it right turns
only and I and I said no no no I said left turns because you did all the work on the North End of heightstown cranberry Station Road they had to buy the house they had to buy parts of archage property in order to get that intersection big enough to for the TR
tactors and trailers to swing my end they did zero in fact I get the pictur to let I got a couple pictures for you to look at and you'll be amazed at what went on what goes on in my corner and uh so I'm I'm I'm very upset
because all the money that we spent and all everything that we do that road can't be can't be widen and one of the things okay um hold on a second we're gonna mark this um we're g to call it um P
start yeah let's um it's and they're all different uh pictures right uh okay let's let's let's add up the number of pictures that we're going to going to be submitting here and call it
six pictures exhibit 01 okay and then I would I would encourage you to focus on this application and and the impact okay and we should show this unforunately I don't have back with the
traffic to understand show this to the applicant excuse me sir I'm we only one person out of time okay I just want to do housekeeping here so you have to show pictures to the applicants attorney too okay and then we're going to give the copies to the secretary afterwards okay
all right so just hang on one second so he can look at them okay Mr Dyan can you explain where your address is or can you point to your house on the map okay already mared out right here this
this isck thank you so so your testimony is that you live nearly on the corner of Brickyard Road and okay this here it turned into
a had b a swamp because it took property okay I just want to make sure that the board understands where I know where you live I want to make sure that the rest of the board understands uh where your property is and what your concern is with this specific
application and the other thing I got a question about is is it just trailers they're talking about putting in there or tractors in trailers just trailers just trailers okay because I know they have a problem with people that drive too much and they have to keep the truck
there and you see the truck there and may be sitting there for hours on the outside of where they drive through and as far as that that just going for because they widen up down a road really we had to call the police because there were four or five tractors and trailers
find that on the road and you had to drive on the opposite side of the road to get there to go past them okay so the rest of your testimony and the rest of your questions yes okay um you do have the
opportunity though of depending on how this uh um traffic study turns out that there's three that they were talking about old Trent Road at that time I'm talking about a way of
slowing the traffic down eliminating the problems that are on the roads there right now which is a major IDE idea for the applicant and me is that one of them was Old Trenton Road going through a little part of the swamp and hitting Old Trenton Road another one was there's a
curb cut where Shell station used to be right by where the um the deal the dealership is right near that area and there's a third one that they don't think they don't talk about is where the old entrance to the unex Alle used to be right on Brickyard Riv
right where just before you go over to that little bridge that come that could come out come right through their site right out right onto that Brickyard Road to Cranberry Circle okay okay so that was just things that I
thought um TR read this real fast yeah I was question too the the amount of trailers that are in parking spaces there now and this number that we're talking about is half or more than
half is it oh you got 200 there 190 that exist on the other side that they use now how how many know the exact we don't know the exact number oh you don't know the exact number okay and we have asked
for that so oh yeah Bri so um uh Missi asked if we we could get like a very specific number on that we're we're very uh oh right when we go when when this got approved going out the act that at that
drive closest to my house there was also supped to be left turns to put them back on the cranberry Station Road out to the major traffic light and lo and behold when uh I took a ride back there one day and there's just
two up going there and they blocked off no left turns and the traffic account was based upon you know fewer going to the left I'm making the right I mean going to Brickyard Road because it didn't have it was no the improvements
were there for the truck to get through that intersection they were pushing him to the left so they changed that sign and they're forcing the traffic that way without the off-road improvements to that intersection that's a big problem I mean there's been a lot of accidents
all right I think that I think that's pretty much it okay is there is there another exhibit but if you got questions you want to ask me I know so um no question and answer so this is public comment and uh we're
taking your comment and they're certainly taking notes on your comment but it wouldn't be a question and answer at this time yeah okay okay because it's a public hearing uh so it's not a a question and answer thanks for Madam Madam chair can I just ask the gentleman
one question I'm sorry to yes of just about the exhibit I just wanted I'm not sure you want to clarify questions I just wanted on the exhibit that was introduced just sir where were those pictures taken I'm just confused actually the
intersection station right that's on your property onck on the road okay the truck is sitting on gotta okay so this picture right here um I'm going to call it O2 and its signage and it's a view from what now that one
says no left turns yeah okay that's from inside their heading out towards the emplo so someone is trying to make a right here is that what you're saying TR don't make a
left sorry I don't want no no no that's okay I just want to make sure that we're right yeah can you grab a microphone when you guys are talking thank you so are are you talking about the driveway that is the shared
driveway where they're coming and meeting Heist toown cranberry or is there a right here Mr paparo yeah here's here's a copy of the picture saying no left turn out of think this is what it is the trucks are actually up here
so oh I don't think that's our property our project because our trucks don't come here right now that's s TR turning into here it's turning that appears like it's turning into associate that makes sense
but not if the signs are in here it's probably telling trucks that are coming from the other properties not to turn left into the associate otherwise the sign would be right here okay thank you sir appreciate thank you
sure thank you madam chair appreciate it so from the according to this that overall site plan where are these pictures in relation to that so the 01
is this is where the Mr Dylan's property is and their testimony was that that picture was on their property the O2 based on our analysis of o2 it appears that that is a
sign for this exis Loop Road that's directing trucks not to make a turn into the site onto the onto the internal Road or onto heightstown Cranberry Road Cranberry height I suggest you take a look at that before the next meeting and sure that
that's correct absolutely thank you we we'll take a look yep okay we would appreciate that yeah of course thank you that goes to Rob any other public comment hearing none public comment is
closed okay so um so we would request that we carry this matter to give us some uh ample time to uh address some of the comments and recommendations that were made this evening and also to address some of the
items in the review layers that we haven't addressed yet by exhibit um based on some of the comments I'm not sure that we would be ready for the next meeting uh which is wonderful because we don't have a slot for you in the next meeting
but we do have a slot for you for 51 if you'd like that we also have a development review uh committee uh for April that would be April 3 um that's a
non-binding Consulting type of meeting you don't have to have everything um uh completely uh buttoned up but you can say this is the direction we're going in what does the advisory committee think
of this but uh according to miss tulo who this is her last night with us as she's uh leaving us but she was already uh on top of what our um uh what our
agendas look like going forward so May 1st would be the first available meeting not the that you have to take that meeting but that would be the next available um for you that would be great if we could we could take that I think
that'll give us plenty of time and we'll and we'll talk about uh taking advantage of the DRC as well um so let us look into it's purely voluntary and uh but just a just an offer okay okay so your date certain that you don't you won't
have to notice you know Reen notice it's going to May 1 then right okay yes please yes I heard that on both sides no new notice okay they keep me they they keep me in line so all good okay having the
carryover um I'm not sure how to uh dismiss you we have a little further business that we have to um that we have to attend to just miss um you're excused you can go
home thank you but uh but we're but we're I I think we are in a good place and I think we're in a better place than we were when we started absolutely and we do want to thank the board and the public as well for their input this evening again this is a collaborative effort um so I think this feedback is
helpful and we'll be sure to you know uh tackle a lot of these issues and come back with I have no doubt excuse me one second before the public goes I gave we gave plans to them can they have those plans because there they're they're the
same public plans that were online what's your would you like your plan back no I don't want my plan back I just want to make sure that they can have it yeah that's fine you can keep you want to keep them keep them I just want to make just just checking so well again so thank you we
know you have other business we just wanted to thank you again for your time and your consideration and we'll see you on May 1 thank you terrific um where is my agenda because we only have only have one thing left we only have we only have one thing uh left
on the agenda so if if the board yeah thank you it is Robin Robin do you need their exhibits or um yeah they're
going how about applicants exhibits or you yeah okay um you're going to give those to her the marked up ones yeah is that okay okay you didn't mark them up okay I
um I will I marked them I marked it in my notes do you you want you want them actually marked on your plan it's great that's great okay um so very exciting business to attend to um 2025 designation of official newspaper
Robin so just a quick recap so as we discussed at the previous meeting the Trenton Times has ceased printing so the township committee did designate the home News Tribune to be the official paper now so we will be noticing to the home News Tribune as well as publishing
with them okay ring um seems like a let down the uh the the but the next item um is to um appoint um we need to have we will do
two things we have a a a nomination and appointment of a new board secretary but before we do that we would like to say uh our farewells to our current Secretary and if any board would like to any board member or anyone would like to make a comment now would be the the
appropriate time just do not make her cry I will Robin I am going to miss you so much I work in a lot of towns and I honestly think you're the best board secretary I've ever worked with
agreed Robin I second that you've been so helpful to me it's been wonderful your micophone system was with a complete rview and everything I I I appreciate all the professions I've learned so much from you so thank you as well thank you thank you thank you Robin for keeping us all
in line and making sure we get all what uh the plans we need all the documents we need and keeping us out of jail keeping us out in trouble no and I and I share that sentiment too I I thoroughly have enjoyed your company and working with with us over the last few years um I
know our applicants have appreciated that your your you know you interacting with them and it's made our life very easy I know Gina is going to take over and going to do great job so um we're looking forward to that but thank you and best wishes on your new career
you're a good guy I appreciate everyone of you thank you thank you thank you anyone else Robin I've had the pleasure to work on other boards with you but this one's a doozy I mean it's a there a lot of a lot of heavy lifting here so I thought I saw an incredible um body of
work from you and now I can see everyone's appreciation I wish you the best of luck and happiness in your new role and and a new personal life I think that I started out here extremely green and you were very good about answering all my questions and make sure that I was on the up and up um
you know your time here you you've given your time but so has your family and it's been very sweet to see your daughter wait outside for you um so it's just nice it's all it's all built in within the family um you're effic I is so much appreciated your communication everything you're going to be a gift wherever you go but I also know that you
you create an atmosphere that the next person that comes into fill it will also just sort of walk in those shoes so thank you um I had the opportunity to attend the New Jersey League of municipalities with Robin um I've also had many um of
our uh applicants uh compliment Robin uh at the table in just her professionalism and how she uh really provides them with uh what they need so it uh it has been a real pleasure uh to
work with you and to uh to be part of this uh anyone else to offer we're good I right from the start I mean everybody knows I say it all the time I still feel like I'm a newbie I'm still learning and I've been so impressed with all of our board professionals and
incredibly impressed with you your level of professionalism and organization you do this all with a smile and you keep us sayane I I I go home and I don't know how you get the minutes done like my brain hurts and you just pull it all
together so thank you and and you're doing absolutely the right thing for your family so and you'll they're lucky to get you did everything has been said and we'll miss you okay so
get on to the business of a nomination and appointment for a new board secretary uh Miss Gina Hill um can I have a motion to approve so move may I have so move may I have a
second second all those in favor I any opposed any exensions motion carries welcome to the board Gina would you like to come to the mic and just um give us a little bit of your background where you came from and
how you ended up in Cranberry sure um so I actually taught um High School science for seven years in West Windsor um and my sister actually lives in cranbery she lives in
on Station Road and she has my niece and nephew are eight and 10 so they go to Cranberry school um so I just spend a lot of time like downtown here and I've Just Seen kind of them grow up here and it's just been really nice so um I kind
of wanted to get more involved in the town here and make a switch from teaching so that's kind of how this all started well their loss is our gain and we're very happy to have you thank you all right so it's like managing big kids
just remember that I keep telling her there's like a lot of similarities little kids big kids just yeah more similarities than you would think all right yeah um may I have a
motion to adjourn uh one more thing I just wanted to update everybody since our last meeting there was a request to start a zoning I'm so sorry yes that's okay a zoning committee so I've reached out and this will be under old new business old new business um so did follow up on that um there were certain
things that absolutely needed to be made up of that composition um for that committee so I'll chair that committee um Bill Giddings has agreed to be our uh planning board class 4 uh for that um opening uh Rob Diamond will join us um
from the zoning board uh Gabe Letterman will join us from the EC and then obviously we will pull in additional resources from our experts um I think from our original discussion we're looking at three or four meetings uh and um I will send out the objectives of
that subcommittee and we'll try to clean up our checklists and and we'll go from there so happy to get that done and get that started but I just wanted to fill you Ina thank you so much everyone who has agreed to do this like that really is the most important part everyone's agreed to give their time because I know
how much time we are giving already I will try to cap these meetings at one hour I'm pretty good at that but I'm gonna try to stay on track so I'm not taking even more of your your time okay Madame mayor I'm so grateful that you have decided to take this on I know that
you have a lot on your plate and the township has a lot on their plate I do find this of Great Value so um Bill thank you for offering up uh your expertise from uh and to represent the planning board um I'm glad that it
sounds like you have a great team um but I I do think this this time as well I do think it matters so thank you so much okay now can I have a motion move may I have a second second
all those in favor we are done all right well hello clay clay you are so lucky we have a cake tonight