to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all let's have the statement of adequate
notice Gina okay under the Sunshine Law adequate notice in accordance with the Open Public Meeting Act was provided on January 16th 2025 of this meeting's date time and location the agenda was mailed to the Cranberry Press and Home News Tribune posted on the Township Bulletin
board mailed to those requesting personal notice and filed with the MUN municipal clerk excellent go ahead roll call um Miss Anderson can't make it miss Elbadawi here
mr giddings can't make it miss Conram here mr milenberg's out mr mucelli here mr stewart can't make it mr whitman here
and Miss Spawn here thank you we have a quorum we have a quorum ph okay um let's go to the approval of the minutes from the March 6th meeting
[Music] um I'll open for approval i do have two non-s substantive changes to the minutes uh number one on the minutes for the six um it says the reorg meeting of Cranberry Township um and I think reorg
would have been January oh no big deal yep so uh that just so it's not on the next one yeah right uh and then um and maybe this is because we have to have Amazon listed as carry over to May
and then we carry them over again is that correct then I have nothing further because it shows Amazon carry over to May and they said they would not be ready in May and they or they would not be ready in Yeah no they said they'll be
ready i apologize no you're right yeah that's good okay okay the minutes with your with your amendment i have a second second oh take a second that's what happens when you have a few people i
love that okay roll call for the March 6 minutes miss Eli yes miss yes mr mucelli yes mr whitman yes and Miss Spawn yes okay
thank you motion passed great okay now we're going to begin with public comment for non-aggenda items is there anyone from the public here for non-aggenda items those all your people okay great uh we will close public
comment for non-aggenda items that's just to make sure that if someone's here for something that they don't have to wait till the end of the application just in a kindness we do that now ask me if anyone's ever been
here to do that no hard no all right um now we'll open the floor to application PB 321-9 American Outdoor Advertising Block 14 lots one and two uh and we're in uh
industrial light impact and madam chairman uh prov notice was adequate and so you have jurisdiction to hear the application thank you would you like to begin by swearing in witnesses or would you like to begin with start first with this introduction
and then you know you got it good evening all right red is on i I hit it before all right red is on usually turns to green um my name is Michael Butler from the law firm of Eert Seammens um here on behalf of the applicant uh American Outdoor
Advertising um we're here tonight for a amended final uh site plan approval uh for property located at uh 30 Brickyard Road um and it's designated on the township uh tax maps as block 14 lots
one and two um it's in as as the madam chairman said it's in the light uh sorry industrial light impact zoning district um and we're here for amended final as I said before um because there's been a few
changes to a site plan over the over the the past couple years uh normally I don't speak a lot before I get into witnesses so bear with me uh there's a little bit of history here um for this property for this applicant we uh secured approval back in 2019 for two
billboards on this property billboards are permitted uses within the zone um there was a billboard to the north of this this billboard which is a digit which is a digital billboard um and then there's this billboard that we're talking about tonight which is a static
billboard um in 2009 sorry 2020 21 sorry uh the location uh we came back in here before the board for a change in the location of the digital billboard um at that point it was because it was close to the Colonial Pen uh pipeline and we
had to make a change to accommodate that um also then in 2022 there was another slight change to that that digital billboard uh we came in here for that for that approval um there have been no changes to date to the location of the static billboard that was originally
approved back in 2019 um when my client turned to start to to construct the static billboard um he spoke with uh the New Jersey Turnpike Authority um and as you'll see we'll we'll show some we'll show some exhibits
some overheads there are there's a a a stand of trees along the New Jersey Turnpike on the New Jersey Turnpike uh property that would block this um uh the original location of from of the static billboard um my client asked the New
Jersey Turnpike Authority whether they can take those trees down or trim those trees and they said no um so my client said "Okay well now I got to figure out where I can put this billboard and has now come up with this new location which is why we're asking for this change in
the approval." Um the billboard we have the approval from the New Jersey Turnpike for this location we have the approval from the Colonial Pen Pipeline Company for this location we're not interfering with the pen pipeline pardon me uh we have an
approval from the New New Jersey uh Department of Transportation but the location shown on the permit is actually incorrect um and my client has actually filed for an amendment to that permit um it shows on the permit it's 150 ft from
um Brickyard Road it's actually 98 feet from Brickyard Road we filed for an application to amend that permit so that should be issued hopefully within the next month or two um and if this board were to give us approval we'd ask that to be a condition of approval to to
provide that to provide that permit um so what we're asking for today is approval for this new site this new location for the billboard it's on the same property once again it's in the industrial light impact zoning district
um which permits um billboards um the billboard is 47 feet in height uh the panels are 40 14 by 48 feet which is the same size as the panels that were approved back in 2019 uh the lighting is
the same um as was approved back in 2019 we'll talk about that uh we'll show you some show you an example of the lighting um and there's also just another issue that we I should I should discuss real quick um the height of the billboard the
way that your ordinance reads the height of the billboard from grade uh like I said before is 47 feet your code says it has to be 50 feet so we're underneath that that grade that that that that restriction maximum 50 feet not has to be 50 feet correct a maximum of 50 feet
um there's another provision also uh where the grade from has to be measured from the the closest intersection of the New Jersey Turnpike uh and at that grade is a maximum of 40 feet we're over that we're 54.4 because of the way the the
the the land is the topography out there um now I've had some discussions with Mr hoder and board planner and the the board attorney as to well what kind of relief is this um and I think we've
settled on that this is a relief that we're asking for a design waiver rather than a variance um I have a planner here who could testify to both um but we would prefer to go forward as a design as a design waiver rather than a variance mr hoder you're okay with that um design
waiver versus a variance it's not in the in the zoning section it's it's a design okay just just asking just just verifying okay yeah and and and and that's is consistent with our I guess and I believe that's what you said that
Mr hoder said that so I just wanted to clarify that okay all right good yeah we we we had some back and forth and so everybody's but I wanted to bring that out for the board so we all everyone knows what what relief we're asking for okay good okay so that is my long-
winded introduction i apologize um so I have got two witnesses for you tonight one is uh Gary Veio he's an engineer he's going to talk about the the the billboard and what's proposed um I also have John Mcdana he's going to give the
planning testimony as as I said before this is not a variance this is a design waiver so he'll give testimony about the design waiver um I also have uh Tim Stoning he's a representative of the applicant should the board have any questions he's here also to to answer
any of those questions could you just spell all their names for I think I got Mcdana but how about Mr veio so uh it's Gary Veio and he can double check me it's V E C H I O H I O
there you go that's what I thought but I wasn't sure okay and then uh Tim Tim Stalling is uh last name is S T A U N I N G okay and I just have one quick
question before you bring your We're not going to uh there's nothing that you're going to talk about with respect this is only on the static side so everything with the um other sign is fine yes yeah the other
sign uh was fully approved in 2022 correct it has been built it is it is in its location okay so this has this application has nothing to do whatsoever with that digital site okay right so um maybe at this point would be good for me
to swear everybody in who's g could possibly be speaking so arts the board's professionals as well um just raise your right hands do you swear that the testimony that you're about to provide before the board is the truth whole truth nothing but the truth so help you God all right thank you
all right so my first witness is Gary Beckio come on up Gary [Music] all right Gary um could you provide the board with your qualifications yes i'm uh I worked for the firm Taylor Wiseman and Taylor for 37 years i got my
bachelor of science from the University of Buffalo and I'm a professional engineer in state New Jersey and I am in good standing um I testified hundreds of boards throughout New Jersey including this board we accept your qualifications thank you sure and he used to have an
office in Cranberry South Brunswick but Cranberry was the address okay we won't hold that against you um why don't we uh put up what we the what we're going to mark as A1
um and if you could just read the the title to the to the exhibit for the record okay it's the overall site plan and it's it's uh sheet 204 of your set and it's dated
March 6 2025 the only change to the plan you're seeing here is the yellow um that is just to clarify what I want to talk about okay can you can you uh put the can you bring the board through this through this exhibit showing where the previous
approval approved board was and and where this this board this the proposed billboard is and where the location is of the property um in town okay um the far left portion the southern portion is
where the existing billboard is today that's the one that is built uh the previously approved billboard on the last application was in the middle area and the new proposed billboard is closer to Cranberry Brickyard Road
okay and I I need you to say that again just so I'm following where was the where is the billboard now this one exists okay this is the one that was previously approved that we're moving it 1,37 ft
to uh the new location okay so the previously approved one that's the the static bill book billboard correct and then so the static billboard is now going to be closer to Brickyard Road which is in red right yes right so so the so what's labeled as the
existing board on exhibit A1 that is the digital billboard that the board member had had asked a question about correct correct and then previously approved is is where the static was originally approved in 2019 um and then on the
right hand side in red is the location is the proposed location for the new the the new static billboard correct correct okay and then um just along the New Jersey Turnpike there's a there's a trees can you just point that out for
the board that Yes the it's hard to see back there but there's a a dark green area along the uh turnpike area there's more clear area where the new proposal is
okay and and this is along the northbound lanes of the New Jersey Turnpike in the souththeast corner of of Cranberry Township correct okay um and as as you said be as I said before uh the the billboard is being
moved because the the the trees the turnpike uh will not allow for those trees that we identified to be taken down yes okay um why don't we can we maybe move to
um exhibit A2 okay i know it's not on that sure where is the digital sign with respect to even if it's off the That's the Yes that's the digital sign yes so you are going north
or south of the digital sign you're going north north north north but south of Brickyard Road is that correct correct right there okay I have another exhibit if you want to see the other ones on the south side
my my um the reason I'm I'm struggling is because there is a static sign uh on the diversified sign the uh the static sign is is that's not the sign we're talking about no that the sign the
sign that we're talking about is it does not exist it does not exist right right now it's it's field so there is no sign the only sign that's on this property is the the existing digital billboard which is on the south end of this property um
okay you know you know what you know what may be the issue and I had this issue was I'm thinking about the wrong side of the turnpike um I was always for some reason in my mind I have flipped I don't know why I flipped it and I'm always I'm always thinking of the turnpike on this side for for the when I
say this side the the west side of the turnpike this is on the east side of the turnpike um and I don't know that that may that may help but for my when I was originally looking at this application that's kind of I have flipped it in my mind for some reason i think that's why
I'm struggling if I can if I can skip to exit to exhibit four I can No no no listen questions are good questions are good all right so we're we're going to skip We're going to exhibit four now yeah so we're gonna we're gonna Why don't we You know what
why don't we mark this A2 yep okay this is the uh billboard location exhibit plan april 1st 2025 okay so so could you talk talk the board through this through this exhibit
okay so sorry this one shows the billboards in the area and the digital sign is the southern one the new one is here's the Brickyard Road is 2410 ft away there's two on the
other side on southbound you know on the other side that's probably the ones you're thinking and there is another one that's really far like 3,639 so and when you're when you're when you're talking about and which side is the east side of the turnpike and which
side is the west side of the turn east side is down the west side is on the other side so one see so was I the whole time I was you might notice I'm like I'm on the wrong side i got one of the questions in the letter there there's four billboards within a mile
right that was one of the questions right and we and you had produced this this because there was a question from the planner about uh billboards in the area so uh the on this on this exhibit the red dot is the is the proposed
billboard um to the south of that to the to the left towards you is the existing digital how far away is that billboard the digital is 2,410 okay and then the closest uh to the north from the proposed is 3,639
and then there are two on the west side of the the turnpike southbound right southbound lanes yeah there's two yes okay um and you had said before that we are moving this the the proposed sign about
1,300 ft to the north so we're actually we actually increased the space in between the existing digital and the proposed uh static sign yes okay okay just ask um because I'm not
flipping through my stuff is this is this in your package or is this this is a different this is we produce this just as a yes some of the reports okay so that copy of that will go to our secretary when you're done okay all right why why we have this up here is
there anything in our ordinance that say we are only allowed so many signs per mile yes yes i'm sure there is yes there's four i mean do we have four there's four on both sides of the turnpike within any
linear mile so it doesn't So it it's four in one direction north or southbound or is it four both sides you can't have more than four within it within a linear mile of hike so these
are the four within that linear mile so no other ones can be built exactly for another mile for another mile I add to that question does that include a double-sided billboard yes i mean I I think what has been approved these have you know the ones that have been
approved going back to 2019 have all been these like um kind of whatever you call them like sort of Vshaped they're V-shaped so you can doublesided okay yeah so doublesided counts as one billboard our ordinance doesn't differentiate so I think we have
to sort of just say that yes wow so maybe our ordinance should but but not tonight that's a great question boarding board i know i know did you see i just looked right at Lisa i was like maybe it should
and and and that the proposed billboard and the and the one that was approved back in 19 2019 they do comply with with the with the requirements of the township code so that they are double-sided the 14 by 48 which is the size of the panels is what's permitted
as per the code um Okay um and like I said this this we we this was produced just in response to some of the answers from the board planner uh Gary just one more time within a linear mile there are only four
billboards yes in this exhibit I know it's hard to see right on the right okay and then I know um the proposed billboard there are no other billboards within a thousand feet
of of the proposed location of the billboard correct okay and that is also within that's a code provision that you can't have anything within 1,000 ft okay all right so let's let's let's circle back a little bit we we we jumped ahead we can
circle back um let's put up the detailed plan this is just the same and just I will give uh A1 was also slightly new because we had we added some um yellow colorized yellow highlighting
yep so I'll give a copy of that i'll give a copy of it all to to G okay and you want that electronically and hard copies okay that works okay um so this is going to be A3 can you uh give the title of
the document so that uh we could add it into the record yes this this was the site plan it was part of your package it's sheet three of four and it's a last revision is March 6 2025 okay um can you talk the board through
the proposal sure the uh this shows a new proposed microphone oh sorry all right is it on
yeah so this is the uh this is the site plan showing the proposed new proposed signage um there's an existing driveway off Brickyard Road which we'll we'll be
maintaining that um we're also showing um they they put down mats when they're constructing this so that we don't have to put more stone down that was that was another question that was in the engineers letter um we typically do that when we have heavy equipment and then
they take take the mats away and it works out well um again it's a site plan with all the zoning data on it we meet all the regulations um except for the one with the height with the 54 feet versus 47
okay and so just to circle back you you had mentioned something and I'll bring the microphone closer to me too so you can hear um you would You're doing great um you had mentioned something before about uh not having to add stone uh that was a response to a question from uh
from the board engineer there's going to be no stone that's added in order for the to to allow for the construction of the the billboard correct correct and there was one other uh another thing I have on this plan is um there's a
setback of 10 feet from the turnpike uh it's drawn right now about 8 feet but the intention was 10 feet so we're going to just shift that over like two feet okay and that was a question that came out of the board planners yeah because I think on that sheet it actually you have 40 feet yeah yeah all
right so yeah that should be it's not drawn right either it's showing eight but I but the sorry as part of the board acts favorably the that the um the zone table would just verify what's shown on the plan yes there's also there's a
thousand foot separation and it's bigger than that okay right yeah okay great okay um and and then so just just talking a little bit more about the board uh we talked about there's it's going to be 10 10 feet back from from
the border of the New Jersey Turnpike uh property line um the board is what's what's the height of the the billboard well that's 47 feet on onto the ground all right that so and that's measured from the ground
the grade of of the pole correct yes and it's 50 is allowed so that that's acceptable okay okay and then the grade difference between the height of the billboard and the closest intersection to the turnpike is that was 54 okay 54.4
okay and as the board the board was asking some questions before you know there's some different members that who weren't here for the 2019 approval um it is a it's a V-shaped double double-sided billboard correct yes it's V-shaped double-sided and and it is a static
billboard which means that someone will have to come out and change the copy once a month or whatever the the the copy changes correct um and there was a question I think in in the board engineers um a memo about storm water is
there any issues with storm water management on on the property as a result of this development no this this is actually higher in elevation than the previous location um I walked out there today and I didn't see any you know wetness
you don't have you don't you don't have any mud on your shoes so So that's a good thing um all right so and then um uh do you know the height of Brickyard Road in relation to where the billboard is proposed uh it's 14 feet
higher okay um and is the the the height of the Brickyard Road the elevation of Brickyard Road is 14 feet higher than the base of the sign yes
center of the road actually actually I have center line of Brickyard Road 121 um billboard is 104 so I guess
[Music] that's 17 ft so the so the elevation of of Brickyard Road from the base of the of the billboard is is is pretty significant yes okay um and is the the height of the
billboard uh is being proposed is is being proposed so that the billboard could be seen over Brickyard Road uh from travelers on the New Jersey yes I believe that's the 14T I was trying to say um no problem and then um you've got a
dotted line on you've got a a couple of dotted lines but you got a dotted line that's at close to the base of the the billboard um does that dotted line represent the where the Colonial uh pipeline is yeah that's that's the Colonial Pipeline they have an easement there with their pipes in it okay and
and this this billboard's not going to interfere with the Colonial Pipeline they the client has gotten approval for its location that is correct okay so real quick from Let me just get this from the bottom of the
sign to the center point of Brickyard Road what are we talking about how much left of the post is is there bottom of the sign to center of Brick yeah i have a
121 minus 104 that's 17 no from the bottom of the sign to not Yeah I'm talking about the po so the bottom of the sign to not not the post i got you i got
you so so where so where the the the support structure for the the panels not you're not talking about the pole you want the support structure no yeah the from the bottom of that support structure for the panels what is the distance to the center of
Brickyard Road but why is that pertinent because about a height issue well it's 40 it's 14 feet below Brickyard Road right now so if I'm on Brickyard Road I'm going to be looking out at a section of of the pole
okay so I wanted to know what trailer right but I just want to know what's the what's left of that pole i'm going to be looking at that section i see what you're saying so and if you're driving a truck you're so much higher and is this lower yeah i'm trying
to get a reference there okay i like 30 feet 20 feet okay we we actually drew this for this question uh the the the bottom of the sign is 104 center line of Brickyard Roads 121 the bottom of the
sign is 134 and the top of the sign is 151 so 134 to 121 121 yeah they said 14 feet again all right and when when you say the bottom of the sign you meant the the pole at the base
of the the base of the billboard i just wanted to make sure that you were right and then there's another 14 ft yes and you said that property wasn't wet it it Where's the water running from Brickyard Road going is it just running somewhere is there a ditch along the road on that
side you know I know why the engineer raised that question because there there was a wet area um more or less where the digital sign was wetlands area there but it wasn't wet where where you were
walking today no not I'm right no not near there it goes down and then there there was a I guess a question about landscaping um I guess originally in the 2019 approval there was some landscaping potentially
proposed um this is more of a question for the the board actually um we can continue and do landscaping out there um we're not really quite the applicants not really quite sure if it makes sense in this situation we really throw we throw it out is there any description of
the base of the the the base of the sign is it Is it rectangle is it concrete is it Does it have anything on it is it painted what is it what does it look like because you're going to see that from the road right yeah yeah correct yes yeah when it were in its other
position you wouldn't have seen it from Brickyard Road i don't care if you see it from the turnpike i'm talking about seeing it from Brickyard Road now so I wouldn't have required landscaping where it was but I might want to think about some landscaping where it is right now
since it's only 98 feet from Brickyard Road and and that's fine and I I throw I throw that question out to the board you know we weren't presenting as if no we're not going to do anything it was really what what does the board prefer um because you know it's I've done a
couple you know uh billboard applications throughout the state and it's always odd it's always an odd question how do you landscape a billboard um so you know I threw it out there we will Well you're not you know it it's more of how do we soften the
view from Brickyard i'm wor I'm not worried about the turnpike i'm worried about Brickyard Road sure so how do we soften the view from Brickyard Road looking at the sign i was referencing looking at the base of the sign you know you're still gonna you're going to see this sign for Brickyard Road in my
letter what I was referencing was actually the plan for 2021 where there was landscaping proposed for the static billboard i have it up if the I don't know if if this if we can show it around or whatever if this is something that the board would want to um ask them to
do again there are only five of us Liz so if you you guys mind I I would rather Yeah i mean if we take a just a second and if Liz can just show each of us what she can kind of show it i don't know if you can see Can you see it you want me to bring it
closer and are the just are those evergreens these are um here I'll bring it over what what um sheet was that from 2021 you have anything reference to us okay so it's sheet two of two from the
preliminary and final site plan from that was approved in 2021 you said that's right sorry so I'm going to come over here and then that way once we understand it we'll have a conversation um we're pretty um we're pretty
determined on land so let us I don't know which one they are actually out here here maybe and then plants will never get I started never get like no no they're not the problem that they
had where they couldn't put the trees and and I I think what was if I'm I'm just reading from the resolution from 2019 it said two hold on I lost it it was 10 evergreen shrubs and two or 10
shrubs mountain Andromeda shrubs um and two evergreen trees they were holl yeah she I think she's referring to 2021 0% oh I don't hold on
madam chairperson if I could say something it doesn't And and we're not talking about landing and mulch we're just talking about screaming of kind of ever i brought I brought this up i brought it up because of the old application so did
I but if you think about it um the this this billboard is down in a hollow down below Brickyard Road it's almost like looking over this table and and it may be that what if we put some landscaping in there you're not going to see it anyway because it's down so deep into a hole
and now they're even closer to the road than the last application so it's just something to think about maybe they don't need it well that's why I was asking what is the base of the you know are we looking at a big chunk of concrete it's a it's just a pole that goes in the
ground right whatever's there it's going to look like a monopole that's a you know that's a But your point is if I'm I'm on the bridge and I'm looking right now yeah that pole is there way down there like my visibility is my sight line isn't there i can't see
the base so I understand what you're saying is why is it necessary because you're it's not like it's open and I can't I like I can't see the floor right now you you probably could if you're going to be right private on the road you might be able to see you might be able to see if you're jogging past
you'll see it yeah yeah yeah or riding your bike or whatever yeah yeah having a picnic out there whatever if I Yeah and if I look at the um the sign that's across the turnpike that has no landscaping around it um it seems
like that's a cleaner look because you can um they can mow around it they can get around it and it's it looks it just go kind of goes away do you know what I mean my concern is in putting landscaping around it we're we're not
talk how do you keep the grass from growing up unless you put pine straw and then why are we doing that well it's required in the ordinance that's why we So so if we So just to ask the question
if if we said we'd prefer for this specific application not to do that is that a design waiver or is that a design waiver saying the board considered it and thought it was better to not have it
okay i'm I don't know where we're at i just want to know where I'm where I'm going with it all right thanks Liz and Dave thanks for bringing that up hey thank you okay okay perfect um see this is how we work because if we don't do it while it's right in front of us it it
can be a long night so we're we're good so far no listen that that's you know I I I brought it up because Dave brought it up and I you know I think it's an important discussion to have it's you know and it's it's really we will follow whatever the board wants us to do on this one um you know we don't have a
suggestion it's it's really what what you want and you made both good arguments to both sides you can soften it but also you've got a maintenance issue and you know sometimes it's maybe better just to have nothing and then it's you know maintenance free and everything kind of goes away uh you know
so it's it's six one way half dozen the other that's why we have a board exactly all right okay um so why don't we why don't we uh jump over to the the the example for the lighting
okay now we're talking lighting all right can you uh this is we're going to mark this as A4 um can you just give the board uh the description of or the title so that this can be put into the record yes this is a
we're calling it billboard sign example dated April 2nd 2025 it's it's really just for ill illustrated purposes so on our site plans we do have four lights per side and they're the
they're special lights for this they're halo halophanes um they're designed to to shoot the light into the board and um doesn't let the light go down they're like cut offs but it's just to shine the board area is what these lights are made
for billboards okay and this is this is an example of what this billboard uh could look like in in the evening correct yes all right and uh just like just like the billboard being proposed
this sign shows uh four light um fixtures at the base of of the billboard that are shining up onto the billboard um and like you said before these are special lights that are made just for billboards uh they shine up and the goal is that they do not have spillage or
glare outside of the the billboard area that's correct um and uh this is a comparable billboard size to what is the proposed size and what was approved in the past yes um and also comparable to
the lighting package that was approved in the past yes okay so with respect to your lighting since the sign since Brickyard Road is 14 ft above the base so you're going to testify that
you're not going to get light spillage coming on the Brickyard Road then no they're they're they shoot up and they're shooting out now away from Brickyard Road okay okay any any other questions about the
the lighting if I could just ask a question sorry they're LED lights um there are no um Oh sorry they're LED lights there's There no shields on these are there there's a bottom shield a bottom shield
so that keeps the the foot candles down to almost zero down on the ground no they're they're up lights right and do we have to worry about sky glow here uh no they're supposed to It's supposed to keep it on the board so there's a a method by which it's also shielded to
the sky yes that's the way they're made dave it has a um I'm looking at right now cover over the top there's a lot of different ways to shield lights you can do it either with the cover or or something that uh LEDs started doing that never did they
never did before which was little tubes inside the housing so the LEDs go straight out and they they reflect back and forth until it becomes almost like a beam of of light like a laser light and you know hundred of them or 200 of them
in a box like that would would produce light only in one spot i was just going to ask you if it was something like that too or not no the these are these are these are the typical um LED I'm going to mispronounce it not hellophaneophane
uh light fixtures that are proposed for this billboard hellophane View LED 2 okay and with these lights there's no background noise from ballast or anything with them no
virtually quiet yeah okay yeah right that's why I asked um and and since since since there was a question about noise the board doesn't produce that the proposed billboard there's no noises or sounds or or or um
smells that are coming from the billboard unless there's a some sort of you know advertiser who wants to put out smells um okay um if that was possible like you know we want cookies on there field of lavender i'm all good with that
i don't know i think hamburgers you know like like a like like a five guys you drive by and you start salivating how about not um I I So I don't I think I'm done i don't have any further questions for Gary i don't know if any of the board members have any questions and I think
we then while while you're thinking I'm going to make sure we hit all the points for um the estimated time from start to finish on construction if approved start to finish steel fabrication all the way to delivery and then finish well
I'm talking about from I should clarify installation on site on the site okay will uh Brickyard road need to be shut down at any point for delivery of materials or anything like that
shut down I mean it will being accessed via crypto okay madam chairperson there the only other item in my letter from the 25th of March is that I was going to start with you Mr i'm sorry they went through everything i mean that's I I can shut up
after this but there's five completeness items that the board would also have to give waiverss on as part of this application and they're in the bottom of my page too could you go over those please item 15
water courses on the plan item 21 topography it's not on the plan number 23 soil borings are not on the plan 34 setback lines are not on the plan 46 spot elevations at building there are no buildings but you could put a spot elevation since there's no topo we don't
have spot elevations uh 55 too data uh up to 200 feet away from the site since they have no too data they don't have any toppo data off the site either so it's those those items and I don't think it's a
problem waving it they've explained almost more elevation than a normal site plan would tonight so your recommendation is is if you grant the application you can grant the waiverss okay thank you that's it Miss
Laney i I think the only the only thing and um that would just be what I mentioned earlier about um cleaning up the zoning tables that are on the drawings um just so that they're accurate um but other than that everything else my letter has been
addressed okay excellent um I'll open it up uh to the board uh we'll start with you Lisa any other questions that we haven't fielded not not a question just that I would say just from the description I don't think
landscaping's necessary okay that's that's a fair that's where I'm going okay ammon I had um I guess sort of two questions the original location that you had proposed
um was that more ideal it's the the trees had to be removed there's quite a bit of vegetation but I'm assuming that's location was selected for a reason uh you know the trees were the trees there i mean it takes years for trees to grow right so the trees were there yeah so the the the
trees are there i think that the thought process with the trees is that um in in other locations prior history was that the New Jersey Turnpike Authority would not have an issue with those trees being taken down we ran into the issue that they they said no you can't take them down so we had to find a new location to
put put the billboard on so it just it it was it was kind of just we we we we uh relied on our past history with the New Jersey Turnpike Authority and got bit a little bit so um as I go back to my original question then is
that loc was that location better for visibility than what you're selecting right now that's a good question um I would say they're relatively Okay um meaning that we wouldn't necessarily
have to see an application like this again where we want to move it again because visibility hasn't been optimal yeah we're we're we're hoping um I don't want to see you again yeah yeah i mean every time I come in but it's the
politest way I've ever heard that the next time I come before you I want to have a different There you go okay and uh I guess speaking about the heights and all of that that negates the option of raising the billboard above the level of the trees right that's that
our ordinance has restricted that okay that's my Thank you so much appreciate it are you in favor of no landscaping uh I think given what was said uh the less disturbance the less maintenance that we have to have on such a site I think I would be in favor of Thank you
i'm good and I'll yield to no landscaping okay John what do you think about this application um I'll yield to the no landscaping but we don't have soil borings for the purpose of this
application is there a geotechnical report uh I can check if there was one originally submitted i I don't I don't have a memory of one being originally submitted there wasn't for this application um but I I can double check
there wasn't a request for one or there wasn't one submitted i don't think there was one ever submitted forest right is it necessary i think for the building permit it's going to be necessary i don't know if that was required for the last last time it was the digital
sign typically borings are are not uncommonly done um to be uh prior to construction uh that's not a unusual circumstance uh for borings to be done as part of a just a phase of
construction preliminary phase but I don't believe it was required and and and if if one is required for a building permit we will follow the the the regulations in order to to get the building permit so if a soil boring
study is required we we will do that okay but I'm good just have one question about um on your application for your bulk variants uh you refer to the signs can be safely viewed is that because I mean there are
standard height using standard lighting um what uh what what does it mean by being safely viewed sure because you're on the turnpike we we know that signs need to be a certain size at a certain speed and
we we get that but as far as safely viewed is that does that also talk about the lighting or so i I think the genesis of that was the the height so it can get uh be seen over Brickyard Road by by the travelers on the New Jersey Turnpike
from that read um you're not going to have that issue coming from the other way because there you don't have your elevation is going up so you see that but the the the view from on the other side of Brick Brickard Road um the the
sign needs to be high enough to be seen from from the New Jersey Turnpike okay all right very good uh hearing no other questions uh we can call a vote do you want to put your planner on
um I I don't I mean yeah I'll put him on real quick i don't know if we need it all right sit i I don't I mean look you you can but I but I He's already said sit he doesn't want to see please don't hold that
against us he really means it in the best way yes oh wait wait wait tonight tonight show up again so but I but let me just circle back with legal so do we So we just had um Liz do you want to
just go through just really you know really quickly you don't even have to be quick design just the just the just the reason for granting a design waiver and I don't I think I think maybe we have reasons already you know so you could just talk
about the criteria really quick okay so um the board can grant a waiver when in the opinion of the board um such waiver will will result in an improvement in the design and layout of the development plan when compared to the design and layout which would result from strict
application of the regul regulations um so and the the resulting design and layout shall be reasonable and fulfill the general purpose and intent of the regulations and so if you wanted to look like the the regulation with landscaping
is they the ordinance says you know essentially it's to have a desirable you know aesthetic and and to improve the aesthetics of of the site and if I think what I've heard is that the board feels that actually the proposed or you know
any landscaping might actually detract from the aesthetics or you know the what's existing might actually be better um so that's yeah okay and then the second thing was the height right right so um the applicants
kind of already talked about the height and the reason for the greater height from what I understand is because of visibility and safety right that's correct right and and it's a somewhat a technicality which we dealt with when we looked at the relocation of the digital
sign as well that it's it sort of it in some ways meets the intention of the regulations if it doesn't meet the letter of the law i think I'm also uh happy to know that there is a minimum number of billboards
because it does concern me to have four billboards grouped right there uh together and I would I would just have a lot of trepidation about having clutter up and down uh the turnpike from a safety standpoint from an aesthetic
standpoint so I was glad to hear that there was a an ordinance for that that covered um Okay you don't have a south of the border situation no right you know that is exactly the childhood thought that
went through my head you are you're crushing it good or if you feel you have enough testimony then we're good right and go for vote i feel that be well I don't feel I know
that because we have seen this um application application and have done our due diligence and read the reports of our professionals uh I am comfortable but if anyone else would like to hear the planner I'm happy
to bring the planner out okay if not I'd like a motion to approve this application with uh the design waiverss that were recommended um may I have a motion
so moved may I have a second second okay roll call for the American Outdoor Advertising Application miss Albadawi yes miss Conro yes mr mucelli yes mr whitman
yes and Miss Spawn yes okay thank you motion passed great thank you very much and I will not come back with this application i never know that's true that's true unless you strike or something out there
that is true that is true mr planner thank you for coming thank you you were You were here if needed and on hot standby you're good and many times you are your your engineer did a fine job of uh of uh getting uh getting
everything explained that's why we wanted to ask those questions up front to clarify so uh thank you all for coming thank you all right good night i did not ask for public comment but obviously there is no public here so I
think we're okay um uh we have uh one two three four five things on our old new business um Liz if you could just give us an update on the HPC master plan amendment um thank you
for your report also Liz this application was much easier because I could follow the bouncing ball from your report as far as um which uh which sign sign A sign B static sign lit sign 2019
2022 that was giving us that road map was very helpful it was more for me understand where we are i'm glad you did that and then uh Mr hoder it was also helpful for you to give us some insight that I believe the board could do this
and and just give us a little bit of uh you know insight of whether or not uh you how great your concerns were you can lay out everything but talking about the historic preservation section no no no i'm talking about our application um you
know your reports helped us get through to me your reports helped us get through this application more easily uh because you were able to unpack it uh very clearly for us well it was easy because we did it before i had something to look at previously actually twice
but yeah no I mean that's that's what I have to do when I uh um I think I like the idea of now of including all the completeness items in there now so you know what is missing or not missing and I didn't do that for many years and maybe I should have uh but we got into
going forward I think that's a good yeah we got we got into a couple close calls not having the information that you know why is this application even here which is all again part of what we're going to do hopefully in the in the zoning committee in a week or two or whenever it's going to be yeah So that's why I
wanted to just reiterate to you and Liz that your reports uh we read them they help us and they help us get through the application and not that you guys didn't do a great job right run keep going but
but your uh I just wanted you to know that the changes that you have made uh Mr hodora have been helpful Liz um you unpacking those resolutions mean that I didn't have to read every single one of them and you know that's what I normally do so I think that's uh that was just
really helpful and I just wanted to give that feedback i think that's that's been good progress thank you very much welcome okay now you're going to be on the hot seat again because uh previous to uh this meeting we had a micro meeting with the um HPC with the chair
of HPC and then uh with another uh committee member uh just for them to walk us through and prepare the planning board they wanted to vet a little bit to see if uh if Wayne and I had any questions so Wayne and I were on the
call uh to just see if if we if uh in our opinion they answer the questions of the planning board when they were here before so Liz if you could give us a um just a a 20,000 okay a little bit on you
know and when they are coming before us when that is going to happen okay so um you should have received my memo which was a few pages and then attached to it was one that was prepared by I think Brendan from HPC a few pages i'm sorry
yeah well his his was very extensive yeah yes um so in uh essentially what they've done is after we had the amendment that I call the August a you know draft amendment to the uh historic preservation element it was brought to
the board and the board had concerns questions oh thank you yeah had concerns and questions and HBC took those uh you know back and and made some revisions draft revisions that they uh thought addressed I think what the
planning board's main concerns were and so in my memo I sort of outlined you know essentially a couple of things overarching ideas that have been gone you know discussed since the 2019 re-examination which has and even before
they still want to eliminate the 200 uh foot historic buffer area because uh it includes some you know neighborhoods uh etc streets that are very remote from the uh historic district itself and they
also wanted to ch you know do some rejiggering of the uh boundaries of the historic district so the feedback that I think was given by the board um had to do with I think concerns that um there wasn't a clear rationalization
or rationale um for which properties were would be included and which properties would be excluded in the reddrawn boundary so they have the HBC has um provided this
report this is a lengthy report sort of indicating which properties they've included why they've included them which properties they've excluded why they've excluded them they essentially wound up um there's one property at the far north end of what they had been proposing to
be in the district which I think when they came here our board members were you know why is why is this in here they've removed it uh in their proposed what they're proposing now they've also uh proposed to take um 22 properties
that are currently in the historic buffer area and add them to the historic district and so it's it's 22 there are many more properties that are actually in the buffer area now that will no longer be in the buffer area but these 22 properties they felt warranted
inclusion because that they impacted the rest of the historic area and that you'll see in um Brendan's report oftentimes it was because you know let's say they're visible from Main Street or they're visible from some of the other
historic streets and so what happens on those properties will impact the sort of overall kind of ambiance um streetscape of of the district the other thing that they've done which uh hadn't really been
done earlier is differentiated um between contributing historic resources and non-contributing historic resources and this is a big deal because while and I think this was another comment from the planning board while you know the
current HPC is maybe made up of reasonable intell you know people uh who understand the different degrees to which a house that they're dealing with in an application is historic there was a concern well what happens when the next board you know 25 years down the
line and so differentiating these two you know putting these in two different groups um so that if you have a house that was built in you know 2005 that you're not held to the same standards of a house that was built in 1865 and so you have what they've
proposed is you know that th that those properties be differentiated within the ordinance so you have they're all in the historic district but some are contrib contributing and some are non-contributing and that the standard of review they're recommending that the
and they're not really changing the ordinance per se but they're making it a little bit clear that there are certain standards that apply to the whole district a lot of it has to do with not doing anything that's kind of you know inappropriate in terms of scale size
that sort of thing you know materials maybe and then there are sort of a second more kind of rigorous level of review that would only apply to the contributing resources so that was intended or is intended to alleviate some of the concerns certainly that the
the resident who showed up at the meetings in November or in the fall um that you know oh I don't I don't want you know my home is modern i don't want to be held to these same standards and so this is to address that concern right and just to interrupt interrupt you one
second and that's a critical part of this that wasn't differentiated before so in other words a non-contributing home within the zone can put an Anderson window in with a plastic insert that looks like a divided
light versus the 1860 home needs to have the expensive color window with individual divided lights six up six down whatever and that's a big or the front door has to be woodlike right or
something that's you know that you can get you know that looks appropriate but it doesn't have to be you know the one-inch thick oak door that would be appropriate for the 1865 home so so what they're they're proposing you know is to
really put into an ordinance what they have been practicing you know in practice but so it's clear for future HBC's you know what the intention is what the mo you know the um level of review that is appropriate for the different types of homes that are all
now going to be in the district they've done so much work up to this point i I think that it now it will be a lot easier for them to do that because now they've really scrutinized what their practice is and if they can get that
documented then um I I really do think that the plan that they've brought now is so much stronger than the plan they had originally they've done a tremendous amount of work on that yeah it's been a long time coming yeah absolutely yeah i think it's important though that we
distinguish that it wasn't the HPC they had an objective process with that grub study that distinguished that whether it was contributing or non-contributing so this was a group of professionals that were able to assess the architectural value of each of these and how they
contributed and you even had highly contributed that were in there so there's three designations that were in there but it was not done by that HBC which further I think supports future HBC's to by setting a standard that they have done and there's a methodology to
that too 100% it's a great point yeah and and great point they I think the survey is really critical because it it is an underpinning of why certain properties were designated why you know what is it about those properties that's important and if they come before HPC
people can look at the survey and sort of look at that and that's what led to the website contribution too because now when you have property transfer of ownership you have a new owner coming in they can easily learn about their property not just for fun to learn about That's the story of the significance but
to clearly say I'm in this buffer i'm a high contributing i'm a contributing or a non-contributing so that when you transfer ownership that new owner knows exactly what to expect and what their what their responsibilities are when they take ownership they know what they're signing up for absolutely
yeah so that is essentially what they are proposing now they wanted to bring it to the board first you know to make sure that everybody was sort of aware of what was going on what the what the you know latest uh recommendations were what
we'd like to do is um unfortunately the notice is extremely long so we're gonna it'll wind up being not on the um May agenda but it'll be in the June agenda to do a master plan an amendment to the historic preservation
element of the master plan uh recommending the changes that HPC um has outlined in this report uh and putting it in a master plan format that would hopefully be adopted by the planning board so that when these
changes are codified by the TC and those ordinances come back here for consistency review with the master plan we can say yes that we did our master plan amendment it's consistent and you know just makes everything much smoother
so in theory I think I asked is that when can this be all wrapped up well I think our part of it will be wrapped up in June uh in terms of getting the uh master plan amendment to
the to the element what then happens after that i think that HPC also is going to they're seeking some grant money i think that they're maybe doing a little bit more um research on some of the properties perhaps that were they're adding to the to the buffer so I think
they are trying to get it all wrapped up by the end of the calendar year that's what I'm figuring yeah because times it goes to the TC then you're going to have to I don't know if it's two readings at the TC yeah so it's going to be two
readings yeah july yeah and then it's got to come back to us to to finalize it so yeah it'll be by the end of the year yeah in the summer oh in the summer we have a um usually one meeting that month versus
two and then we have unless there's stuff that's important they're they're they're deemed optional and then we take a vote on that but you're right if there's something that is pressing then we won't we will have one so it was part of the uh master plan re-examination
from 2019 so I think if it can be done during this year um I did review the summary of the progress made towards uh the master plan and uh the township has done a a significant lift uh on the
master plan re-examination so it's due again uh to be looked at in 2029 right 2029 so that means 2027 we need to begin the process again
but I think we're going to be very um I think we're going to be very satisfied with the number of things that have been done on that master plan so if they can get that done that this year we began that process i say we I was the uh
liaison to HPC we started this in 2020 so these things are are slow but deliberate for a good reason um and so if they can get that done in five years they did it in half the time of the uh
master plan so um really well done by HPC that was a lot of work and they have uh uh someone on their board that's doing a pretty heavy lift with a lot of detail so I think that turned it into five years instead of nine years um
because he just because they just kept at it well done okay and and and honestly they're going to be implementing concerns or changes that have been recommended since by Harvey Moscowitz you know who has not been planner since 2005 so I mean you know
it's there's the buffer area has been something that's been discussed for a while oh yeah well this is it's been discussed since I was on the township committee back in 1994 so so it's a long time coming long time
long time coming so this this will be uh this will be good uh work to move forward is just Liz one quick one more quick question is this because I feel very comfortable with this now i didn't last fall that I
feel better with this now because I think it clarified there was a lot of loose ends is this kind of a can be used as a template model for other towns to to to or are we above and beyond other towns or in some ways you are above and
beyond because of um for example the buffer area is something I've never Yeah never encountered anywhere that was creative wasn't it it was creative um and and but actually it's an interesting concept because it's this
whole idea of yes we know your house was built 10 years ago but what you do on your property is going to impact the historic feeling of the rest of the district so um the Cranberry is a little bit unique okay
to put it mildly okay well we are uh happy for HPC to bring that before us and um and I'll be happy for them to move forward um next item on the agenda is the expiring
contract PSENG gina sent me an email that just said you know each year we approve this PSENG cont uh contract for a selective herbicide application uh within riparian zones so I just it ex
the only reason it is on this agenda is because it expires in June um so I just wanted to get it on the agenda i wanted to forward it to our EC um I don't know the year that we changed
our riparian zone from 100 ft to 150 ft um so I just wanted to make sure that the EC was aware since it was put on our plate um you know we wanted EC to have a look at it i wanted to make our professionals aware in case there's any changes that we want to make for the
next contract i just wanted it to be on the table nothing more okay that was easy okay uh next on the agenda Lisa can now that we've had this conversation can you give us an update on the zoning committee yeah I I barely Sorry thank
you i barely have the mind for this today very tired but I think I I got everybody's feedback on days and times and day verse night full moon and be negative blood types and I think we've got it narrowed down to uh I think a
Tuesday meeting during the day with enough notice so that's what I'm going to I'm going to shoot for um and it will be via Zoom um I have a a really ugly travel schedule for for my work but um
because it's Zoom I can do this from anywhere and then we're going to try to cap that meeting um at an hour and then before we get off that first call we will have the next one scheduled so that we don't like have I don't have to do this thing again yeah okay and then um I
just wanted to and then um obviously we have our agenda the most pressing is to start with the guidelines i think that that's the the checklist and so Gina thank you so much for sending that link which is just a blank checklist and I think the best thing to do is just start
from that in the first meeting and and go through it so if anyone needs to link to that I doubt you do but if anyone wants to kind of start to prepare and red ink that um and just get ahead of it that would be great like where you see that maybe there was like the the
biggest pain points that um created you know what we've talked about is you know some meeting inefficiency or speed through the meeting and then um I just added this whole billboard one double-sided is it considered one or two so as we move along through the
committee and we think of things like this we'll just add that to the agenda and then um I think I also emailed everyone here because of my really ugly travel schedule I won't be able to be at the June planning meeting but I wanted to give you enough notice on that so hopefully it'll be a light meeting but
now it just sounds like that will be the HBC buffer round zero so I'm like rats after all that hard work people here in the room i will uh I will maybe be maybe I'll watch that remotely and just so you can hear me cheerleading from afar but uh I wanted to give enough
notice and that so you don't run into any quorum issues on that date with enough notice no that's really helpful because as you know tonight like some things kind of kind of fell through the cracks you're not circling the wagons because No it's a but you know uh on
that point um I won't be at that meeting either and that's a Lisa that's one for you that's one for you and that's one for you um that is a Yeah
yeah that's your That's your check so um uh my um a very short note to just say that I am uh resigning from public service in Cranberry um and I am retiring to Amelia
Island in Florida i plan to do a lot of fishing um and a lot of just relocating um my life plans my husband um retired March 8th my daughter got engaged last
week and uh my son is he and his wife are expecting their third so a lot of very wonderful life uh happenings in the spawn uh group so
um so I'm very grateful for that but I'm also very grateful to have had the opportunity uh to be part of this crew to be part of the township committee to work with you to barely work with you but I really
liked it um but uh I I'm a big believer in two things uh many hands make light work uh and I'm also a big believer in leave it better than you found it so if we all do a little bit it happens and I
think there's just so much unity in this unique town um that when you have the opportunity and you can do that kind of work um it's it's so gratifying i won't say I I won't say that it is not a labor
of love it's a lot of work so happy to have you at the table um very helpful um we have got so much experience and from that um we are such a good board and having our real estate covered having
our architect covered having our large uh you know EC and then having um you know Jason who has done you know very large um projects in the city so I just think we have really you know a wonderful group um and um it is a labor
of love this is not an easy board um but it it is very gratifying and it it matters and the work that you do matters and that's all I have and with that um I resign
can we say a few things no and Yeah yes yes you can as well as the vice chair yes you can i I think by Yeah by my resignation I think you've just elevated but yes go ahead yes I think uh everybody can say what they want and
then I'll finish up saying something real quick at the end so please feel free evelyn I am so grateful to know you i'm so grateful to have learned uh side by side with you and under you i love your professionalism i love how you are
ready to work at the at the you know at the ignition of an idea you are already ready um I will take with me a few Evelyn isms um one of them is pump the brakes i like that pump the brakes and u when
things get a little bit much I still remember one phrase you said a few meetings and you said you know um done is better than perfect sometimes done is better than perfect um you have a lot of wisdom and I just I really really have watched you over these years as you know
the the newbie on the TC and just sort of um even your time on the board of ed when I was new to this town and you know you were helping make decisions that would impact the lives of my children um I am very grateful to know you you really are an amazing woman you have
done a lot this town owes you a lot it really does and um you know thank you very very much i know wherever you go you're going to make sure that you are very useful and they are lucky to have you so thank you thank you so much awesome
i'm not going to make eye contact with her but um my friend Evelyn I it's been an absolute honor getting to know you and um I consider you a mentor um I've loved our time that we have shared together um outside of these four walls
and learning from you um I I know it sounds like silly but to say it but sometimes people don't pause to do it you should be incredibly proud of yourself and your contributions to this town and seeing you on the TC but all the heavy lifting that you have done on
this planning board and that you've just continued to raise your hand um even when I know it's probably been hard and you know life can be hard but you still raised your hand and you showed up and and your presence is just it made an everlasting mark on this town and you
will be missed but I say that with just absolute joy for you and your family and all the blessings that you have going on and that you can pause now and do that together with your husband and I just wish the best for you okay
anybody else or do you want to wait till when we go get cake i wanted to say a couple things because because I will say that I was coming into plan coming into Cranberry and I sort of inherited it from Richard and I felt like I had just huge shoes to fill
with Richard Price and then Harvey Moscowitz before him who loom large and I was so nervous and Evelyn could not have been a greater mentor and so welcoming and a friend and it was just it made it so much easier and I just
really enjoyed working with you because I thought you had a very high standard and I thought you you know that's something that Cranberry is unique that there are high standards and they're kept up because of the people on the boards and and you're absolutely do that
and um I just was very grateful to you for how you helped integrate me into Cranberry so and I will really miss you for that i'll make it short um I appreciate uh being on the board and I appreciate
Evelyn you uh continuing with me uh when you became chair and um I I think we hit it off right away that was that was very good uh and um when I learned that uh you were a chemist by trade I I thought "Oh my god now I know why I like her."
Because she's like an engineer because they're very close in in both the way they had to study at school and and the way their minds have to think about problem solving so that was great and I think that aided you a lot in being both on the town council and being here on the board and so thank you very much i
appreciate your friendship i will say I'm relatively new to the board but I've really enjoyed working with you i mean you make it a lot of fun actually i mean it's the most fun board I've been with because you know you you get the job
done you know what you're doing and you make my job easier because um you just have so much experience running planning board and um and I've really appreciated it so I will miss you thank you very much all right but they could say something
if they want do you have anything to say don't do it just remember it's between you and the cake now so whatever you I think more capable of understanding what it meant to your
family and to do everything that you've done over these years i don't think that Cranberry will ever truly appreciate everything you've done and I agree tremendously with the maintaining
standards and I think as a board we we do that but we should always remember that even after you've gone to your fabulous next steps and I am grateful and honored that you asked to
participate in this board because it's just so important and you're so stinking smart and so beful for everything from I'll be super short because cake and you can't put your foot down no you
can't i've known MLM since I moved to this town because very shortly after that I went to my kids third grade and daughter like some spectacular presentations like that
was just above and beyond wow got to know her the goal is to other people that I can go yeah go ahead quickly um we've only gotten to work together for like a month
maybe but I just want to say like just from all the interactions with you and other people that I've seen and then also interacting with you when I could um I just think that you're a boss um and I just hope you realize like how
many good impacts you've had on all these people and also like everyone in the town as well so I just aspire to be someone like you so yeah now is Mike going to make you cry well
you know let's have a clean sweep well I I I can only uh add a few other things that the wonderful things have been said i I totally agree with everything that's been said and your contribution to the town is been nothing but stellar and
um people people like you don't come along that much so that's number one number two Evelyn and I have what we be called almost like a um married partner type of relationship with one another so she puts me in my place when it needs to
be she's definitely much smarter than me as my wife is with me and I always look to her for advice and guidance and and everything that I tried to do on this board because she is definitely um way more polished than I'll ever be
in in running this running this board but where's my gag no no but you will be you certainly will be sorely missed and um and personally um want to thank you because um I've been on the township committee i haven't been on the zoning
board but I've been on HPAC and a lot of other things in this town but the planning board was always at in the past and I think currently is like the place to be because this is where all the action is this is what we do really
makes money for the town everything we plan everything we have built all kind of goes through us here and uh not that the township is not not important but I think we have a lot of um good interaction and I I've learned so much
being on this board since 2019 and I I just think that Evelyn's contribution has been a lot and um big hole to fill if at all so um you know thank you for everything please enjoy
your your uh retirement now quote unquote you're going to be busier than ever so and she'll be on some board down in Florida there saving the saving the manatee or something you know two weeks yeah
so okay but we do have a couple little unfinished pieces of business well I'm going to do this you are going to do this are you 100% i'm going to do this this is uh the
master plan um and the uh NJO 2024 land use um it also includes uh roles and duties of the chairperson so when we you expect me to read this no
I that is for you no I know it's such the geekiest thing and I just love it but I'm giving that to you and I am moving from my seat and
I'm taking the So we still we still do have some unfinish unfinished business here because we have to elect a new chair and a vice chair so I think our two board
members should enter the meeting i mean they could stay there but be part of the meeting oh yeah i would say come on up if you can the farthest you can come Jason maybe to that and we could say that they joined the
meeting at this point in time so we're legal the eyes so would Gina call out the nomine who would call out the nomination gina weird yeah um do we have a nomination for
chair i nominate Wayne okay second any others okay any others nobody nope okay nominations are closed right okay
yeah um all those in favor say I i i i any opposed abstensions okay thank you thank you everybody thank you thank you
[Applause] okay and then now we need a nomination for vice chair i nominate Jason Stewart second thanks gina could you call the role please yeah
um all those in favor i I any opposed abstensions okay thank you thank you all you're welcome [Applause] okay um anything else before we don't need that
to go into close session oh we need a rep for the D formally but I don't know who is on the DRC now it's um uh Bill Giddings myself so we need somebody to replace you so
it's either me or somebody else who would love to be and and so the chair would appoint to the DRC so does anybody want to be on the DRC let's put it that way it doesn't always meet and when it does it's a preview to
what's coming so I'm just saying it's a five o'clock meeting though i don't know who can who can manage that all right for now um but I I can't volunteer and unless unless somebody has an over you know we can always switch that out at a
later date but until somebody else steps forward I'll be the rep on the DRC taking over for Evelyn thank you thank you all right anything else that anybody would like to bring up yes no okay i'd
like to have a motion to adjourn the meeting second there you go all right all those in favor i thank you good night everybody all right good work people thank you