So they you would be able to normally carry a meeting um an application to the next meeting if you have a date certain, but we don't have a date certain. So what they're going to do is renotice. So we're just going to to another meeting once they're ready. And um so you can
just they and they've also consented to extend the time for board action to July 31st, 2025. So you just simply note that it's been adjourned today. Do we need to have a formal like roll call on that or just that we're we're we're calling it a day? Yeah. So, we
just we take that off of um agenda till they renotice. Okay. Anybody have any questions on that until they come back in again? Okay. Since we're not discussing the application, we don't need num number uh
any information from the public on that or questions or comments. So that's off. Um, old and new business. We need to appoint a DRC alternate. Who would love to join me on the DRC as an alternate? Anybody? Do you want to tell
them what it is? What? Yeah. Behind door number two. Okay. The DRC is the design review committee. It is the first step um hopefully when an applicant comes in and it is an informal meeting with the applicant to discuss
their application and um essentially there's nothing recorded nothing you know is official but it gives the um applicant feedback from the township so that they understand um what they're what they're up against
or you know if there's something red that's like a you you know, glaringly like, "What are you crazy? You're never going to get that done." Um or, "Hey, it looks like you got everything in the row, you know, got your engineers and whatever all lined up, you know, proceed
with with coming to the the township." So, and and there is a process in that ordinance too which rarely gets used because someone usually needs some sort of relief, but if you wanted to come in for a minor site plan um and you could
do that in front of the DRC, but you would have to provide notice and um which is something you don't have to do when you come to the planning board if you have a minor site plan approval and no condition. So a lot of times people would rather bring their application to the planning board so they don't have to
provide notice but you know it is an option way to go under this ordinance as well. it doesn't meet every time so it's not that frequent right I have not I have not heard that happening so yeah I have it's really been I think maybe once I've heard someone do that you know but
um people do you think um that's useful for a like maybe single family dwellings like something that's a little bit more minor versus major I mean you usually don't even need a minor site plan approval for a single family dwelling you know because usually the only thing people are asking for for a single
family dwelling is a building permit or if they need a variance of some kind. They've had them come if they're converting to an office. Okay, that's would be an issue. Well, that's and that's and they're not asking for a minor site plan, are they at that point or they it's just for um concept review really, right? When they when they're
doing that. So, I think by and large from at least from what I've seen, they're usually coming in just for concept, you know, and discussion to see if people really hate their application or how much all would be involved technically speaking. I I have not
served on the DRC for a long I didn't I mean all I was an alternate but Evelyn usually covered that but from the few meetings I did back in the day when when I was on the planning board a 100 years ago um you know the DRC was pretty
straightforward um you know it didn't you know right and the other thing is is that there are some board of adjustment members on there if it looks like it's going to be a board of adjustment application then they can't sit right because they were supposed to be as a quasi judicial, you know, entity when it
comes in front of the board of adjustment. So that's that would be the only time that those members can participate. I think the timing may be a little limiting for some people here though. It starts at 5:00 before the planning board meeting. So that you have to make sure that your schedule is clear for that. Not every planning board
meeting. It doesn't always when it meets. It's five o'clock before the planning board meeting. Who's currently on DRC? I am. Me. But I am for the for the township. She's the town representative. Yeah. And then Bill is as well. Bill Gates. Mhm.
So I would do it as an alternate. Would you like to do that as an alternate? As an alternate, Wayne. Okay, that would be good. In all caps. Yeah, all caps. Yes. So, thank you. I appreciate that. Do we
need any kind of a special motion on that or anything? Authority to appoint. Okay, you're in. There we go. Okay, we got that. So, that's good. Thank you. Yeah.
Um now, uh the other old the other new business would be um the township has um engaged in the process of moving forward with their affordable housing obligation and have secured I don't know
if you want to go into what you the the two properties we've identified we've not secured. We've identified two properties which we um uh posted during our Monday meeting. And so the process is that uh those properties would come
before the planning board and then the township would have a township committee meeting within 48 hours of your planning board meeting. This all has to get submitted as a site plan uh to the state
of New Jersey by June 30th. So that's why we're looking, I think, at a potential date of June 24th, which is a Tuesday, which would then give the township 48 hours to have our township committee meeting um to move forward.
Has to come before. Now, has there been any retainers of those properties or something formally? No. Letters of uh interest to purchase the properties were sent to the property owners and now we're engaged in um mutual negotiations
with both properties which just began. Is the township looking at purchasing both properties? The letter of intent that goes to both properties. Our communication, our formal communication is that we are interested in purchasing your property for the use of affordable housing.
That's the communication that has gone to both properties. Right. So if they but if they both come in and say we yeah we want to sell would you buy both or is that so what's public is the um intent to purchase the the sites and the identification of the sites. What's not public are the negotiations of those
sites? That's fine. I I understand that. Okay. So just so I understand so I can have anyone if anyone has any questions. So the purpose of having the planning board meeting is there a um housing element and fair share plan being proposed and
that would be the purpose for the special meeting because the planning board has to adopt the um housing element correct of the fair share plan. Correct. Okay. So that's what's happening right now is there's being an amendment to that plan. Yes. Do we know what the fair share number is or is it
just are we amending the fair share plan for something? We have sorry the um uh obligation that we currently have is 265 um but with um some work that's been done previous with some uh credits we
have the ability to lower that number. What will happen is the development team will uh look at the both properties. They will assess what can be done on each property and then we will submit that as our plan and with our credits that formal plan goes in on June 30th
and then you will have that number for the planning board meeting and those plans and then once we submit that plan to the state on the 30th then that number will become public to the public. Is there an architect or planner engaged in right now? We have a developer
engaged figuring out how many can or you already know how many? We already have a developer that we've been working with for months on on site um not acquisition but site um planning. Yeah, planning or um you know finding the properties that we wanted to review and see if they met
the criteria. We're also engaged with a um a development company. We have an affordable housing consultant that we worked the same consultant as we worked with in round three with the same uh affordable housing attorney that we worked with in round three is engaged
with us as well as the Cranberry um housing associates CHA is involved. Is there any issue with the the um the not the rumor there's the two houses
that on one on each property are supposed to be historic in nature. Is that going to be a problem with these properties at this point in time? In the spirit of redundancy, we have identified the properties and that's public
knowledge. the negotiations of those properties is not okay. So, we're looking at having a special meeting in June. It's probably will be on a Tuesday evening. Um, we picked a date
potentially. Yeah. Uh, probably June 24th. Tuesday, June 24th at 7 if that seems to work for and that's all we're going to have on the agenda. I I would I would I would I would like to say that I don't want to put anything
else on the agenda. It's a special meeting for that specific purpose as will the township committee meeting that will has to be within 48 hours specific to that purpose. So you technically you will meet after we meet. Is that how that work? We'll meet on Monday the 23rd
for our regularly scheduled township committee meeting. Then if you have your meeting on the 24th, we have within 48 hours we have to have a township committee meeting. So you're looking at Thursday night then. Correct. Okay. Or Wednesday if we're prepared.
Well, Wednesday or Thursday. If you have your meeting Tuesday, we can have ours Wednesday or Thursday. Do we have to notice that the same way? I believe we do. Yeah. All have to be noticed. Well, the week after.
Okay. So, do we does anybody have a problem with that date right now? 24th. I do. You do? Yeah, I leave that day. Okay. So, either day would be a problem because it would be 24th or 25th. Really? Yeah. So, yeah, I'm the 24th. We
should still have enough. Um, everybody else was okay. Okay. Okay. We'll talk with Bill. See if he's available. He's good with those. Oh, okay. Oh, you talked to them before. Yeah, everybody. Oh, all the professionals
will be here for that meeting. Everyone will need to be here. So, we'll need to make sure that Okay. Yeah. Liz and yeah, we have the affordable housing attorney here too or the planning board to anything or the affordable housing consultant. I think the affordable housing consultant and
the affordable housing attorney will need to be at both. But I will follow up both the TC meeting and the planning board. I would think that they should be here. We have to notice the neighbors sometime soon. You would notice them as you do for a
master plan hearing. So, uh I can't remember if we notice for that, but I'll check the statute. Um but I don't think I don't know if you have to give people notice within 200 200 feet. I'll check that. I don't think so. No. Yeah. No, I think it's just the
clerks and um let's just double check that planning. But yeah, don't trip over something like that. Okay. And Lisa, you said that um like Dave and Liz would need to be here, too. I'm pretty Yeah, we have
everybody here. Okay, I'll let them know too. I think we've got that under control for the evening. Um, I don't see the necessary uh reason to go into close session here tonight. So, that's all. Um, can I update? Oh,
yes. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I just want to update everybody. We had our second um open session. Yes, we're back in open session. Sorry. Thank you. Um I just wanted to update everybody. We had our second um zoning subcommittee meeting um this past
Tuesday or Wednesday, one of those nights. It was a long session, but what we did get completed was the checklist review. And so all of the revisions to the checklist have been made and updated. Um I handed them back to Gina to help me with formatting um and moving
it back in um and just making some revisions to it. So we'll get ready for that and then our next step uh we'll have another meeting in two weeks and we'll be moving into code um if there's any changes to the code and then we'll be able to your your plan is to adopt
the checklist by ordinance though. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. what you have to do. Do we get involved in any of that? Oh, you you could look at it and see if it's consistent with the master plan, you know. Yeah, that'll all be sent back for review. It was just doing the work to
get it updated and changed and all of that. So, it'll Can you remind us who the members of that committee are? Um, yeah. Bill, um, Gabe Letterman, uh, myself, Liz, uh, Mr. Mr. Diamond, Mr. Hooter or No
and Mr. Hooter. Yeah, thank you. And they've been in attendance on boats and planes and cars and anywhere anyone could fit it in. But it's been a very um committed group of volunteers to get that done. And I'm I've learned a lot. I'm very grateful to
have been the chair on it. Even though I'm more of a scribe than anything else, I'm very little value ad, but I have learned a lot from going through it. Um, which is great. So, I think they've done good work and I'm excited because I do think it's going to streamline a lot of
the meetings here. Um, and then we there was an additional column on the checklist added for single family. Uh, they might call that out into a separate section completely because the checklists for single families are much less cumbersome. Um, and so that might
simplify the process and again maybe encourage them to go through DRC versus planning board. So that might all kind of come together. So there's more work to be done, but the bulk of the checklist work was completed this week. And I sincerely appreciate that and I
probably speak on behalf of the board. Anytime we could streamline an applicant when they come in and make sure that they because it runs the gamut from some people they got it all together and some people we're building we're we're we're
building the plane as it's flying down the runway. So it it and I I don't want to be doing that anymore. And I also think it updates it for your current discussions. Things that you probably didn't have to deal with long ago, you have to deal with now. Much like a lot of the stuff the township committee is
dealing with now, right? Stuff that we didn't think we'd be dealing with, but now you do because things change, technologies advance, and now you have a different checklist. So I think it's comprehensive, but I'm not a professional. Well, it brings it more 2025. Yep, for sure.
I had shared with uh with Shade Tree because Sha tree was looking to update their list also to make sure that they gave that to Yeah. Yeah, I added that. So, I'll reach out to Kathy East and I'll make sure that um it'll have to become part of that. I think we covered a lot of what's in their existing
checklist, but if it's being updated, we can roll it in. It should be done simultaneously. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'll make sure I reach out. Very good. Any more, mayor, on that? Nothing. Okay. Now, could we motion? Motion to adjurnn.
Can I have a motion to adjurnn? Motion to adjurnn. There we go. Meeting is adjourned. Well, yeah. Go vote. All those in favor say I. I. Okay. Nay. Then meeting closed.
Almost a record. Huh? Oh, this was think about this. This was not the shortest, but it's pretty close.