I'm going to use that. We have two minutes according to Big Ben. >> So, >> yes, seven. It's seven now. I don't know what the >> Should we go? >> Yeah, we're live. So, might as well
>> like to call the meeting to order. Would you please rise and join me in the pledge of allegiance? >> I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> Okay. >> All right. Statement of adequate notice. Under the Sunshine Law, adequate notice in accordance with the Open Public Meetings Act was provided on January 16, 2025 of this meeting's date, time, and
location. The agenda was mailed to the Cranberry Press and Home News Tribune, posted on the Township Bulletin board, mailed to those requesting personal notice, and filed with the municipal clerk. Roll call, please. Miss Anderson, >> here. >> Miss Albadawi, >> here. >> Mr. Giddings,
>> here. >> Miss, >> here. >> Mr. Mildenberg, >> here. >> Mr. Mr. Mucelli is out. Mr. Pulk >> here. >> Mr. Stewart is not here yet. And Mr. Whitman >> here. >> Thank you. We have a quorum.
>> Okay. I'd like to have a motion to approve the meeting as corrected. If you want to read the correction on that just so we >> Yes. >> Official. >> There's just a correction on page six. Um,
it's the one, two, three, four, five, six kind of like paragraph down. Miss Albuddawi suggested that this option of wrapping um instead of using landscaping be incorporated into the revisions to the design guidelines and it's and in place
of instead of. >> So, are there any other corrections or comments from board members? I move to to to pass it with. >> Can I have a second, please? >> Second.
>> Okay. Roll call for the November 6 minutes. Miss Anderson, >> yes. >> Miss Albadawi, >> yes. >> Miss Conira, >> yes. >> Mr. Mildenberg, >> yes. >> Mr. and Mr. Whitman,
>> yes. >> Thank you. Motion passed. >> All right. We have two public comment sections. I'm going to roll that into one public comment sections. So, I'm going to open it up to the public for comments of items on the agenda and not on the agenda.
Hearing none, I'm going to close the public portion of the meeting for items on the agenda and not on the agenda. So, the next item is the uh resolution for Amazon Services PB42-25.
We just got those in today, which is okay. And we're going to uh move that to January to our first meeting in January for approval if that's all right with everybody. That doesn't mean Amazon can't go ahead and start doing stuff over there. We already know what they're
planning on doing and everything, but just this will codify it in early January. So, When is our first meeting again in January? >> January 8th. >> 8th. Okay. >> Sharon, did you share that with the >> attorney? January 8th.
>> Okay. The next item on the agenda um is the zoning commit uh subcommittee revisions checklist and design guidelines. Uh the mayor is going to give us um kind of a 72,000 foot view plus um what our marching orders are
going to be. And what I'm going to what I would like to do if it's all right with the board members is to have a special meeting in late January where we just talk about this and and and it you know it should be you know this way our
focus is just on that. we're not worrying about rushing through applicants and then quarter to 10 we're starting to go over this. I would rather just talk about this. So, and when we come to the uh our meeting on the 8th, um we could decide what day might work
best for us in late January. If that seems acceptable to everybody on the board, >> in other words, uh what we're doing today is is looking at this but not taking any action, but in that next meeting, we might take action. >> Yes, that is correct. >> Thank you. So, I'm going to turn it over to the mayor to and I just want to
compliment the mayor and the committee, the subcommittee for all the work they did on this this year. I did read the whole thing and yes, I did. And um it's it's very comprehensive. I think it's pretty for an applicant. I mean, I know there's a thousand things, but it's once
you once you read it, it's like, oh, okay. They could just kind of go down the line here and check stuff off. Um, so it seems like it it's a more user friendly process, I think. So, but I'm gonna turn it over to you, Lisa.
>> I'm gonna start with the same thing. So, I want to thank um Gina especially because we we handed all of our edits over to Gina and then she amended them on the on the checklist. And I want to thank Bill and David and Liz and Gabe and Rob um for all their help on this.
The the objective of this was to help facilitate um more efficient uh meetings um and that applicants be more prepared and make sure that the expectations of the planning board um were very thoughtful,
intentional, and they were concise and making it easier for them um and thus making it easier on everybody here and um our board secretary um to get where we need to be faster. So hopefully and then they'll find this less arduous of a
process and less intimidating of a process when they're here because they'll be really prepared. So we started with the um the checklist. Um and so I guess the objective of this is just to give you an overview of the work that's done and then the work will be handed over to everybody here and you
can review it and formulate your questions and feedback uh and notes on it and and then when we meet in January that's when we'll go through it in detail. So it's giving everybody plenty of time including the holidays to to really review the body work. >> Yeah. So so our marching orders just to
get it clear is everybody needs to read this make your comments. Is there anything other than we you know tabulate our comments and everything when we come back to our meeting? Do you need anything beforehand? >> Again if somebody wants to send it ahead of time we can maybe correlate that um
and >> well that's actually a good it'll help speed that special meeting along. happy to do that. If you could just kind of do it in the order of the document. >> Yeah, >> that would be really helpful. So, if we're looking at administration and application, if you have comments around
that, just title it that um in fact, I could probably send a spreadsheet out um where here it is and then there's your comments and then everybody and then I can just correlate them easier. So, I'll be happy to do that. I'll create a spreadsheet. >> Mr. Chair, yes, if I could just say one comment on the checklist. Um, would I
would it be okay for Gina to make to highlight just the items that were changed on this when you send it out? >> Yeah, I'll go back to the >> I'll go back to the older version. >> Yeah, just then you'll know which ones we had. We had about I don't know 10 or
15 items then >> we also put them in in site plan subdivision categories which is hopefully >> well again. Yes, I'm sorry. I was going to say there is some highlighting in the document. It has to do with what the planning board is going to comment on. And so we can just
differentiate that highlighting. >> I'm just saying just highlight it. >> You mean on the checklist >> there were 60 now there's 75. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. because there's a lot of things that are highlighted and strike striking out on on on all the other
>> and just to point out we added the single family variance plan that column that vertical was not there before. So besides adding items we did add that. So just pay special attention to that. We don't get many of them but it was
important to recognize if we do what that checklist would look like. >> Now in the other three documents that we got there's a lot of additions. these these might you know we could always do the same thing as you know type in comments that we have on the each
particular section if that's the most expedient thing to do. >> Yeah, you got the document. They're editable. So if we want if anyone wants to do that and then send >> Well, I would I wouldn't want to edit that. I have questions. So I don't know if if a question it's maybe not a correction. It's more of a question type
of thing. So we could always >> Yeah. >> put those on there, too. >> As long as we're referencing the section we're at. So >> Okay. Um, starting on G, the one that is the historic district design guidelines. I just want to make sure that everyone's clear. We did not throw these out. Um,
we're replacing them with the, let me get it right, chapter 93, which is what HBC is using. These were kind of antiquated and out of date and they weren't they would really didn't have relevancy. So, we've basically combined them. So, now you have consistency on
the design guidelines that HPC is currently using. And now that's referenced here within the planning board documents. So that's just I just >> that's why the whole thing was thrown out. >> Yeah. Just wanted to make sure that nobody thought we were like ripping that
in half. That is still vital in their feedback um in this process. >> Okay. And then we went through the commercial design uh standards. Um I you you kind of forget how much work was involved in this until you see the
documents here. So again, I'm just really grateful. For the most part, my role here was like scribe. Um, and that was about it. Um, so I would say I was a moderator of this subcommittee. Um, and not a high level contributor, which is
why I continue to thank everybody. And then I think Bill, um, you had suggested we take a look at the lighting guidelines too, right? And so we went back and Bill did most of the heavy lifting on that to get us started. And then um I think our last meeting was focused on the lighting and you can see
all the changes that were in there. And I'll just also say I learned a ton as I have this whole year being uh on this board has been invaluable to me to kind of see the work that everyone does and just want to thank everybody in general um for their contributions to the board.
But I was very grateful to be on the board this year and I really learned a lot. So >> yeah, when I saw Calvin temperature I said these people are getting deep here. >> Yeah, we are. I learned. I learned. Yeah. >> So, >> I learned a lot, too. >> No, I >> Well, yes. I was just going to say that
yesterday. >> That was Yes, that was just yesterday. I We learned like I Yeah, I mean, TED talk little chickens, but you'll be happy to know that the zoning subcommittee has moved on to agriculture, chickens, and livestock um now. So, you know, we have very important work ahead of us that
will, you know, whoever will pick that up in in January. But, uh yeah, we're on the way. I also I just want to say this one thing is uh Bill G thankfully reads everything very closely and he found a couple typos and and things that need corrected. this had already gone out so
I didn't bother to change it but I will >> um and then everybody can have a clean copy you know >> okay >> request is >> I have a question because I'm I'm pulling this up u the documents online what was emailed so what's emailed to us
we don't get these chunks of red with the line that strikes through it is that correct or am I looking in the wrong >> or or or is the version that's in the electronic folder exactly like this >> I think it's the Okay, I can double check.
>> The only thing that it didn't show or let me check. >> She's got highlights, but she doesn't have the red. >> Have to check something like that.
>> Probably have to turn on tracking. >> Gina, what can you >> Yeah, maybe just to be easier. people. >> Yeah, because I think it I think it shows up on mine. So, it might just be a weird >> Do you have what I have?
>> But there was the yellow. >> That's weird. >> I just was working off the paper copy. >> So, when you say tracking, what is that? >> That's That's a tracking comments. There's up in the top bar. >> Yeah.
And you can track the comments and it actually puts stuff in the margins. It really works well. >> Yeah. Is it like a changing document? download along the top and >> what would you envision um the time at
at a meeting at hour two hours would you think >> I would bank on two probably and then earlier. >> Okay. >> All right. So then a special meeting is definitely I would I would like to do that and then we can put this to bed. >> Okay. >> So I think in some states the third what
was it? The third >> third week of January. I think that's kind of a >> unless you're going skiing in Breen Ridge or something. You know that might be a dead time. >> No broken bones. >> No broken please. Unless we don't have something on the
agenda. >> No, we won't have anything that night because I'm not going to allow anything. >> Well, no, I don't think so. I think we got stuff coming in the door right here. So, >> I think Ker, she's coming in in January. Yeah. So,
>> we activated the zoning subcommittee obviously for this objective and then we had the agriculture thing kind of come up. So um the question is going to be the discussion um after we get through that agricultural discussion um does
that subcommittee continue and that's just not to be answered tonight just something to be thinking about is there a body of work that needs that to continue or we conclude with chicken if it as an as needed bas
meeting pretty regularly like every two weeks the has six months, >> maybe longer. >> So, yeah. >> Okay. >> I don't know if that's required. >> All right. >> Any other comments or questions on that? >> We got our marching orders from the
mayor, so I think we're good. Okay. um old and new business. So, we talked about the special meeting in January. When we come in on January the 8th, then we'll decide what's going on. Um
for old business, I would like to first start off and saying I want to thank the board for everything that they have done this year. this year um unlike other years has been a heavy lift and will probably continue into the next year as
a heavy lift. So I do appreciate everybody's um diligence and patience and effort and comments and what you've done to support the board. Um, but this is a great board
and I certainly uh appreciate what everybody has done to try to make this, you know, the most efficient, you know, board, you know, that we could make it uh and what we've done this year, especially in light with everything we have to deal with with our affordable housing obligation and which we will
still continue to deal with into next year. So, there's still going to be a lot of work to do. Um, still some unfinished, still some halfway finished and moving forward. Um, but I do want to appreciate, you know, all the board members and all of our professionals for everything you've done. It it we
couldn't have done it without everybody here. So, and um I do sincerely appreciate that. Um, and with that said, um, I would like, you know, I'm although I'm the chair now, I do plan my term
ends at the end of next year. I don't know if I'm going to renew at the end of next year. I'll let you know sometime next year. Um but for now, if anybody else wanted to be the chair of the planning board, they certainly can do it. Um but you just let me know. And
yeah, that's Yeah, >> everybody step forward. Yeah. So that's what I was figuring. So uh and I have to I'll I'll let I'll ask Jason just to be official here. So you know, uh if anybody wants the job, it's yours. Uh if you don't want the job, I don't mind
taking it again for next year. if you if you'll uh let me be the chair again. Um you know, we'll go from there. It's it's all up to you guys. So, um but I do want to appreciate I now I appreciate you letting me be the chair after Evelyn uh
left us earlier this year just before everything hit. So, I think she knew what was going to happen and stuck and stuck me down. >> Sold her property. >> It left in the middle of the night. Yeah. So, uh but I do I do appreciate
everything. Um, I I thoroughly enjoy, you know, I'd be less than honest to say I really enjoy working on the planning board. Um, it it is um a labor of love. So, for me and uh it does make a difference to our town, >> you know. So, everybody, you know, you
do make a difference to what our town is and and and um how we operate. So, enough said with that. Well, thank you for your leadership, Wayne, and everything. I appreciate that steering the ship this year and could not have done it without >> I felt like we were going over Niagara Falls some nights, but it was like but
it was like, you know, I guess, you know, like Humphrey Bogard, you know, steering the African queen down the river, you know. Um, we we we did it. We got to the lake, but uh still work to do, >> but the requirement there was to kind of
stay calm and steady through that. And that's what I think. >> Yeah, I threw tantrums when I got home, but I didn't do it. >> Do it at home. >> Yeah, it wasn't happier at home, but it was tried to be calm here. >> Why you're going to the Christmas? >> Yes. Um, with that being said, um,
let's see. Any other Does anybody else have anything for the cause? Go to any of our professionals, anybody want to, you know, things for next year or whatever? Um, so at our at our reorg meeting in the in the 8th, do we have to
approve everybody again? Yeah. Okay. I didn't, you know, I guess you all will be here unless you win the lottery or something like that. I didn't hear anything about getting rid of anybody. So, you know, I would plan on coming on the 8th. So, uh, and I don't think any
You're is Nobody's Nobody's up right now. Right. >> I'm up, but I told you. >> Yeah. >> Right. You were. That's right. I did. Right. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, yes, if you would please do it again
and I think you did that would be appreciated. Um, like I said, my term is up at the end of next year and we'll talk about that a year from now or a little bit before a year from now. So, with that being said, if there's any other comments or questions from
anybody, nothing. I'd like to have a motion to adjourn our meeting tonight for the end of the year 2025. >> Can I have a second, please? >> All those in favor? >> I
>> meeting closed. Thank you, everybody. Before we go, someone's going to be a daddy