There we go. >> All right. Uh, good evening everyone. Uh, today is Wednesday, March 18th, 2006. I'm going to call to order this meeting of the Cranberry Township Parks and Recreation Commission. Uh, let's begin with the pledge of allegiance.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Can we have a reading of our statement of adequate notice? Pursuant
to the Open Public Meeting Act, notice of this meeting was sent to the Cranberry Press, the Trenton Times, and Home News Tribune on January 5th, 2026, posted on the bulletin board, posted on the township's website, and sent to
those who requested a copy of this notice. >> All right. Uh, can we have a roll call? >> Christina, >> here. Three hours. Brandon >> here three hours. >> Katie
>> here one hour. >> Kelly >> here one hour. >> Uh Moore is absent. Sally is absent. Deepac >> here one hour. >> Fallon is not here as well. Michael
>> here one hour. Go. >> All right, we have a quorum. Um, minutes. Um, if no one has any amendments um or revisions to put forward, I'll entertain a motion and a second to adopt the minutes from our
January meeting. >> Is there a motion? >> Yeah, I'll make a motion. >> Thank you. >> Is there a second? Second. >> Thank you. It's too slow. >> Uh, can we have a roll call for that?
>> Uh, Christina, >> yes. >> Brennan, >> yes. >> Katie, >> yes. >> Kelly, >> yes. >> Uh, Deepo, >> yes. >> And Michael, >> yes. >> All right, let's move on to reports. Uh,
starting with our recreation director. I guess I got to put the mic on. Um, okay. I attended the uh township committee budget meeting on February 1st. I'm sure you all watched it. It was really uh riveting. Um, where I proposed
the three items uh that we discussed, the the new dock, which actually is going to be a uh a grant request. So, we'll find out probably in a few months if we get that grant for that. the gazebo in the circle
procurement area and a shed, a new shed for the storage of the um camp um supplies. Uh the they were obviously fine with the dock because it was an a grant application which has gone now
through township committee for approval to apply for the grant. So that grant has been submitted. Um the gazebo was not approved. Um there was some discussion on that. They felt that that was not a necessary addition to the the
park at at this time. Um I think they're also looking they look it's what I gathered from the discussion was the budget is very tight and they are not looking to add anything that they don't think is a necessary item even on on the
capital side. So, that did not go through. And the shed they said we we're going to take out of our out of the trust fund because it's not a like a big ticket item, not a a large expense. Um, so that was that was the synopsis of of
my uh presentation of that. It was fairly quick and um painless for me. Um, I've been in touch with the principal at the at the Cranberry School. She has told me that there are several teachers that are
interested in possibly running additional camps over the summer. So, I have sent uh her a um program proposal form to to hand out. Haven't gotten anything back yet. Um, but I will follow
up with that. um see where we are on that. One thing in particular, she wants to try to revive that theater program that that the arts council ran. And I believe she has somebody that was interested in doing that. She said, "We
have this new theater now. I want to use it. So, let's um let's try to do that." So, that that was very exciting. And last year, like I said, we we had a b we had somebody interested interested in doing basketball and uh field hockey we
ran. So hopefully we get to we get to do those two. So So working on getting the summer camp information out. Um we're I don't know if you saw right now we're advertising for a new camp director. Um
that w is something that the township asked me to do. Um we so we're in the process of that that applications end this week. The deadline to get those in is is this week. Right now we only have one and it's the guy that's been doing
it for 29 years. So, um, you know, I'm hoping that, you know, we are able to continue, uh, with the current director and we'll see what happens. Uh, but they have a couple days left. So, that is a little slowed a little bit of the
process down because I really can't have Tim working on it if he's not officially at the director. and there's some things I need from him to be able to gather, uh, some of the pricing for things and timing for buses and that kind of stuff.
So, um, next week, by the end of next week, I have I hope to have everything up and running on the registration software. We'll be doing a email blast as soon as that gets done. Um, and then, you know, ultimately my goal was to try
to have everything out at the same time, right? but I haven't had um the response yet from the school. So that's that'll probably have to come out as a secondary um list of of programs. Um but this is, you know, this is the
planning time of year. We're uh we're busy with some field requests as well for soccer and um so and other like um pavilion rentals and such. So, this is our this is one of our busy season. Busy
season really starts after we start registration for summer camp. But >> Ken, someone reached out to me um that's a tennis coach who's interested in doing camps in our town. >> Should I just pass that information to you? >> Yeah, pass that on to me and I will I
will touch base with them. Sure. >> Okay. And is it possible for the summer camp or is it >> Sure. Oh, yeah. We yeah, we've done tennis camp with uh through US Sports Institute. We've done summer camp in the past. Hope hopefully they'll be open. They'll be open as soon as as soon as
the weather breaks. There's not much left to do with that project. >> Use the school courts, right? Potentially. >> Um, you know, I have never used them, but if it's in the summertime, I'll I'll check with the school um see if I can reserve them. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you.
That's that's all I have. And um I presume I mean there I don't expect an update on this but I presume that now that the weather is supposed to be getting warmer there will be um an update for the um
>> the fountain. >> Yeah. Yes. Yes. I mean, I already have a a purchase order for the, you know, that they've received. So, I just need to, you know, get them again to go out there. So, I probably I probably have to
do another mark out now, uh, for the electrical. So, it's going to, you know, end up costing us a little bit more money, but that's that wasn't a huge expense anyway. So, yeah, that's on my radar as well. All right. >> If we ever get some warm weather.
>> Um, does anyone have uh any uh questions or uh >> anything for Ken for his report? >> Can we I It's been a while since it I thought we had talked a little bit about maybe the camp being an extra week at one point and I I thought it was because
of the school had issues or I don't know if anything went anywhere with that because I know you said you talked to the principal. Yeah, I mean the it used to be we used to be eight weeks. Um >> now this the school cut us to seven weeks.
Um because they want time to be able to prep the school for the start of school year. >> Uh the reason it's gone to six weeks is really because of >> our camp director goes to school a week later than um Cranberry. his school
doesn't let out till like Thursday or Friday the next week. So that that's part of the reason why we're six weeks. My hope is to be able to fill in those weeks with maybe some other programs that give people an opportunity to to do something. But that's yeah I I don't I
don't think you know that's this is a common occurrence that the school districts have have said look we need more time to prep for opening of the school. So I I think asking for another week is futile, but I I didn't ask, but
I don't think it's >> Yeah. I just didn't know if we asked this current principle. >> Yeah. We haven't. >> Yeah, we did talk about >> because the last principal was a little more strict about some things and I think it might be worth at least asking. >> Sure, I could ask. >> Especially since now everything's built.
before when they were sort of struggling with construction and one gym versus another like I could see them >> in some craziness but now that everything's built and to be honest with you it sounds like she wants to play nice and I love the idea of the theater camp but like if they want to be you
know talking about this sort of thing maybe they're more eager to work with us >> okay I will ask >> I know as a parent I would appreciate an extra week of >> right >> sorry Ken is our last day of camp August
7th. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> So, it would be one additional week after that potentially, >> right? >> And self-interest as well as broadly. When does application for coun camp
counselors open? Because I know >> we we we'll we'll take them at any time. >> Okay. So, they can go on there now and do that. >> Yes, absolutely. Okay. Yep. I'm sorry. Do we do any advertising around that or we just sort of let that be word of mouth?
>> Um, we we if we really need a lot of We don't need to. >> Yeah. If I don't think we really need to. There's plenty of kids. There's always kids who were looking. >> I figured >> I I looked and I think we had three or four applications in the folder right now. >> Yeah.
>> So, >> all righty. Thank you, Ken. Let's move to our uh parks preserve updates. Does anyone have uh anything to report having um observed or >> I just want to share um it's not really a park or preserve but my block was
impacted by that tornado that flew by. you probably saw on all about cranberry and um just the police, the fire department, DPW, our neighbors, they were all so great, very responsive and I just wanted to thank them publicly
because it was a great job and it was like it came out obviously came out of nowhere, but the response was really fast. So, it was was wonderful and I know as a neighbor and my block we're very thankful for that. >> Yeah. to that point. I mean, I haven't gone
through some of the more back trails like there's the Nami woods and every like there's a lot of trail that might be >> might have been affected by >> Yeah, Unami is impacted, but >> I think we're just taking care of the
homes first and then couple weeks we'll wander in there. >> Just I only bring it up because I know the SC the scouts are always looking for service hours and they do trail cleanup. So, if there are trails that are that impacted that might also be able to go through Tim Brennan as well, too. But,
um, it might is, like I said, they're always struggling for extra service hours. It' be an easy thing to probably get free help. Uh, anyone else on this or anything else to report?
Yes, it's a Facebook comment. Um, people were complaining that V that Heritage Park, the walking trail was not plowed during the snowstorms. There were a bunch of people that commented on that. I don't know if that's something that we had previously done or who takes
care of it or how it ranks in priority, but interesting because it was really difficult to walk on the streets and sidewalks and stuff. So that's pretty fair, I think. But I understand that there's like a lot of other things that DPW needs to be
doing first. >> Did Did you say the Heritage Trail or the Village Trail? >> I saw her. >> Heritage and I imagine Village wouldn't have been any different. I know they um it's not a trail, but there's the sidewalk connecting Park View to Ultran Road that runs through Milstone, and
that was not or that that uh path nor the sidewalk fronting road was not clear because kids were sweating. So, I mean, they were through that as much as you can because some of it's gravel, >> but that was pretty wide open.
>> I don't I don't know what past practice has been. Um, but past events have been that the snow usually melts much quicker than it has >> the these past few weeks. Yeah,
>> but I can report that the snow is gone now, which is an update from our last meeting. >> Don't curse us. I mean, yeah, it's probably gonna we'll probably have two more blizzards before the end of uh the end of spring.
>> All right. Anyone else on parks uh preserve updates? Okay, moving on to memorial benches. I have no new applications and um unless I'm mistaken, we don't have any that are in the pipeline right now either. Uh moving on to the environmental
commission. I did attend a meeting that they had last month. They also met two days ago, but since we had not met in the interval, I did not attend that meeting. Um, their meeting from last month uh was
um displaced uh to the gallery room. Uh, so what we they weren't able to live stream it, but um it was a quick meeting and uh there's nothing to report that Sally hasn't already uh reported from her prior prior
reports attending the EC. Um, anyone have anything for me or to question on EC? I don't have any new communications from Shade Tree. Um, and I don't have any new
communications um from the township committee either. Um, has anyone heard from anyone on Shade Tree Environmental Commission or Township Committee for that matter with anything they need to report or like to report or a question they'd like to
raise? All right, then let's u move on to our old business. We have the circle procurement for village park um and the community interest survey uh as well as our goals for 2026 later on
our agenda here. Um how what is what's the mood can I ask about the circle circle procurement we have put forward our ideas we have come up with different ideas and
opportunities and we have you know done some of the leg work to see what it would entail and what it would cost and the I'm getting the overwhelming sense from the township committee as a body that they are not super gung-ho on on
moving forward with that right now. Um, so I I'd like to hear uh from you guys how how interested are you in pushing that and how uh in terms of effort and timeline and uh the hard cell.
>> So I understand their decision if it's a cost thing. It's not a necessary thing in the park because there is another gazebo. There's a pavilion. And so I understand that, but it's not a pretty space as it is today. It's like dead,
dry grass. So maybe we could do something more economical and I don't know, flowers, some gravel, something like that. We could propose them landscaping maybe and potentially they'll buy off on that. But I just think it's it could
be improved. It doesn't look very nice the way it is. So just my idea. >> Uh yeah, I agree that it would it should be addressed in some capacity. I guess it's the decision. Do we want to address it as just like a placeholder for now
and come back later when the temperature may have changed or do we want to think of a more economical permanent solution? >> Yeah, I I'm certainly inclined to I think that that space is like almost
screaming for something at some point to be there instead of just >> I have to walk around this patch of grass instead of walking straight through it. >> Um, which we would have got if there was like, you know, a four-way juncture of the paths. Um,
and I understand the TC is doesn't see it as a priority and not neither do I. It's not hugely timesensitive or anything. Um, but it's still a good idea, I think, even if it's not a priority. Um, and
I I I mean, I do think it would be an interest to keep this in our heads. Do we want to keep this on our agenda though, or do we want to like cycle back to it?
feels like it could wind up in the goals pretty easily. Even if it was like a figure out what to do, >> yeah, >> with it goal, like not just a maybe it doesn't turn into a it has to be done goal because we don't have the money for it yet, but maybe it's a figure out what to do with it and how to get the money
goal, right? We pro it sounds like it might be a self-unding thing. So maybe we need to figure out more creative wreck options that maybe could raise some more money that could fund it. I don't know. >> I just don't I don't know what to do with
in terms of appealing to the TC bird there, you know, >> advice and support and approval because they all the members we have on there have they're all engaged. They have ideas and they're not afraid to tell us what they are and they all have different ideas and I don't know how to
take those five different ideas as instructions to us on what to do and and like >> well did they give us ideas for this specific project or they just said no? >> I mean I I feel like you know we've heard from them at various points on this project and on other park
improvements and park um infrastructure. they've, you know, we have some members who are pretty opposed to adding things to the park, some members who are very interested in it, some members who are happy to have like a structure, and some
members who would much prefer something more low profile. And I don't know how to take all that as like and use it. >> Wasn't there a um beautifification fund or something like that? I remember what a year or two it's called
beautifification fund. I um >> like right there was something money like $500 maybe. >> Oh, but I'm wondering if we ask like can we have a budget of >> I don't know $4,000 for example if
that's to do some landscaping if we all agree and if maybe we need the dollar amount and then we could back into something or nothing, >> right? >> You know, >> right? Well, it's like you can imag if we could figure out what it is, you could think of things like if it wound
up being an area that has a patio, do you sell each brick with a name on it for like few hundred, $500 a piece to do memorials there and then that funds the landscaping for the entire area, right? It's just we got to find out the right if the gazebo is it, that's fine. But if
it's not and it's a memorial or a landscape project or something, I feel like every time we sort of hit a bump, we just kind of wander off in a different direction and we're not sure. We sort of have to pick one >> and then figure out how to fund it. >> Yeah. I just think the gazebo there
wasn't a lot of buy in. We all agreed but we are not like passionate about it. >> Yeah. >> So we're not passionate about no one's going to really push it. >> Yeah. I agree. >> Yeah. I think well I think part of the reason we were more dispassionate than we might have been was not from our own
internal feelings but from our expectations of where our idea might end up. I know that tempered my passion a little bit. Um, all right. So, yeah, we have to figure out how to move
forward here and at what pace and what and toward what. Um, but let's let's fold that in with our our goals. Um, >> is there a way that now that we're approaching spring that at least for now we can toss some flowers in because it's
spring and it's ugly and this would be the time to make it at least look nice for the spring into the summer that that can be very cheap and it would at least look now and it's not permanent. We're not making any major decisions, >> but it would have a big impact.
>> Yeah, I don't know the answer to that question. um we would have to, you know, ask, we'd have to figure out who to ask and then ask them and then wait for the answer. Um >> and >> um that's a good question. I mean, it's
not capital money, right? I mean, so we don't have a capital fund for that. >> Yeah. >> So if if this was something that everybody was very strong about and they said, "Look, we want to use, >> you know, whatever thousand dollars of
the trust fund to to do this, then um I'd have to check with administration because since we since we merged, we haven't really done anything like this. So let me let me check and find out." I I'm curious about that because it's not necess it's not exact. It's the
recreation trust fund and while the flowers are are nice and suitable for a park, I don't know if they're like legally suitable for spending from the recreation trust fund and that >> they're fun to look at, but I'm not sure that qualifies as the kind of recreation that the trust fund set up for.
>> Is there a way we could make it a kid activity? Park beautifification day like we have stream cleanup day, circle procurement cleanup day. >> They have to have to come up with a
better name. >> Um I don't know. Does anyone want to look I feel like we can ask all the questions we want tonight, but we're not going to get too many of them answered. Does anyone want to look into that or or run with that idea? I feel about as optimistic as I do about the gazebo idea
that anything will get done and I'm I'm not personally inclined to volunteer to pick up that ball and run with it. Um, are there any other volunteers for that role? >> I can if we if we want to explore landscaping, I could get some
landscapers to create like a design. It's going to be more than $500 because it's a big space. >> Yeah. Um, we could look at it that way or we could just let it ride and do it properly. The next buzzer. I don't know. >> Yeah. I mean, the other part of this is,
you know, you have to think public works is going to have to now then cut around that and probably have to maintain it. And, you know, I can I can see how how this can Yeah. how this can kind of, you know, you got to realize what what comes
next after you plant. Yeah. It's great. plant flowers. All right. Who's gonna take care of them? Uh who's going to prep the area for to take the flowers? Because you gota >> rock garden and is >> Yeah. I mean, I kind of fully expect to get an answer ranging from no to not
this year. And I that's kind of just where we're at, >> right? I was going to say I think we need some serious DPW buy in because they have to water it and they're already doing that all over the place.
But could we not ask DPW what they would wouldn't mind doing on the space? Like what would be too much or too little to add? >> Well, >> but then we'll know. >> Yeah.
>> Cuz things that are going to take water three times a week, which would be pretty, probably won't be working for their time. >> Yeah. Maybe there's something not rocks,
boulders, >> but some other sort. >> The succulents. >> Yeah, I don't know. That will still survive blizzards. >> Yeah, >> we did speak about that. >> I just I just don't think any of >> meditating. I always remember when we
talked about like a little like a labyrinth. >> Oh, we did. Yeah, >> that might be it now. I think we need to go back to our ideas. Um, >> the discard pile, >> windmills or whatever they were called in heritage, >> the wind sculpture. >> Yeah. Were they were they expensive?
>> They weren't cheap. >> Oh, I was going to say maybe we can make something like that. >> Oh, I mean those those things were like three or or 4,000 total maybe or possibly individually. I don't remember. >> And in the survey someone wrote no more. >> Oh, no more structure.
>> Scratch that. >> Okay. Well, we'll keep on >> noodling. >> Well, on that point, um I I'm happy to on that point, I want to discuss the community interest survey if we're ready to move on to that item. Um
it gave us a lot of feedback and I enjoyed reading it. Um, even though like right off the bat, we know there's some of things we cannot do or or that like we can feasibly do, but we have or if not we the town as a whole and the
township committee have told us we're not going to do like a dog park or swimming in the lake. So, I wish I brought it in front brought it with me. >> I never heard the dog park thing. I heard the swimming in the lake one. What's the town's dog park view? I we've
just we've looked at it before and there has been um a full lack of consensus on where it would go and also the health ramifications of like having a dog park was not um
>> they do know the dogs explained very fully >> anyway. >> Yeah, it wasn't explained very fully or what have you, but it was something they weren't looking interested. >> Absolutely. It sounds like it was more of a placement issue than it was anything because the other one seems kind of ridiculous to me that like
because dogs go whether you like it or not. Like >> I mean I don't I don't I'm not sure it was like them personally worried about it as opposed to like various professional or regulatory things one has to do. I have no idea.
>> Okay. >> I can't imagine that's insurmountable. Every other town >> Every town around us has one literally. I feel like it was like a a Cranberry doesn't want a dog park vibe, >> right? >> But I don't know where the vibe came from, >> right?
>> I feel like I feel like back when it was like years ago, someone when we had brought this up that it was liability concerns. >> Oh Jesus. >> I mean that gets mentioned every time we have an idea. anything.
>> Literally anything we do has liability. >> Um, and we're liable for everything. All of us individually and every organization is liable for every single thing they do or >> in a dog park and dog attacks said person. That person doesn't sue the town. They sue the person that's dog
attacked them. >> I mean, they could sue the town, too, for not reasonably for seeing that something might happen there. But though I >> I've known people that no one goes after the town for an attack in a park. You go after the person. >> Yeah. You're just as likely to, you know,
>> sue the town for an off leash dog in a park where off. >> It's like saying if I got into a fender bender in the park, I'd sue the town because the road was their road. Like it's just that that's stretching liability, I think, to too far. You know, if it was if you went to the park
and you cut your arm open on the fence or something like that, that's a different story. But if you get if they're talking about liability from another dog that's not the counter >> maybe that was what they were referring to like your >> dog. >> Yeah, sure. Anything could happen. >> Yeah.
>> I mean I think that gets back to like bubble wrapping everybody and leaving them at home. >> So it just doesn't it doesn't sound like I mean the swimming in the lake. I'm not even sure anybody why anybody would do that especially after watching it get drained. But um but the dog park thing
to me just seems like there's so many people in town that have dogs and it would be nice and they they bring them to the parks already and kind of let them like it just makes no sense to me not to have with all the open area some discussion about it. >> I know initially the discussion and I
can't remember if this was before we merged or not. The last major discussion we' had was having it at West property off leash. >> Yeah. And then that it just seemed unsafe to do unleash so close to the school. And we were also
told that it's part of that land was purchased with Green Acres funding and is meant to be natural and that dogs present a like, you know, uh threat to the native wildlife, which is like sounds
ridiculous, but is indeed like legally plausible that in a Green Acres preserve land, you're not meant to like turn it into a like uh structured recreation. >> That makes more. You're not supposed to fence off a >> though. Like we weren't really proposing that we fence it off and like
>> you know build something fun. It were just merely a place possibly where >> we'd allow dogs to be off the >> people do it anyway. So whether we made that that area I bring my own dogs there like it's just normal. But it just feels like there's enough open space even if it's not in the center of town with all
this area around that something we could find something somewhere at least have a discussion about it >> because it did come up a lot in the survey. Sorry. >> Oh no. Milstone I always think like Milstone is such a vast >> right >> empty >> and nobody uses it ever like today there
was somebody using it but in general it's just generally empty >> right. Um, the other concern I I had a little bit with the community interest survey was that we had limited uh feedback um or
like limited participation rather. We got good feedback from those who did participate, but um I was hoping for more and I know that if like the township committee is going to be
>> more inclined to do something if if we can demonstrate like broader uh support or a broader representative sample. >> Yeah. Um, I would just say sure we can do that. But I think to then just wave off a hundred people's plus response
would be rude. And frankly, when you look at the voting, the votes were decided by less than 100 people on who was in that council and I was like 30 people. So to just say like a 100 people doesn't really matter. I would find that offensive if I had responded that survey. Like I took the time to do this.
So it's not 500 people, it's 100. It's almost a statistically representative sample because we don't have a very big town. So, it was broad-based. It went from young people to older people, people with kids without. And it's, you know, this the feedback was kind of what
we expected it to be. There wasn't like wacky out of the ballpark mentions. I think it would be rude to say that we got a hundred people who engaged on this and just say like not not that important. If it was crazy stuff like we need to build a baseball stadium down
the road, I'd be like, well, you know, somebody got a hold of this. But I think what we got was pretty standard. We need more recreation programs. We need to do some different things with our parks. We would like a dog park. We'd like some like there was stuff that we've all talked about. So I think it validates a
lot of common sense stuff that we need to do. So we shouldn't just brush it off as like I wish it was 200 people instead of 100. >> Oh no, I abs I absolutely do agree there. Um >> yeah, I'm not saying you I'm just saying if we get to that point with them, I'm more than happy as well to be there
saying like I think that's frankly kind of rude to just and I I didn't get that sense >> from our town committee representative that they felt that it was like weak in any way too. Sure. Could it have been more But, you know, second come around if we do it again, we certainly can get more.
>> Yeah. No, I didn't get that sense necessarly that like I got that more as like a constructive feedback sense. Um, >> I I I >> sorry from speaking with someone or just your own personal life like you spoke to
someone who said that wasn't a big enough response. >> Not that it wasn't big enough, but that it would be nice to have more. Yeah. >> I mean, it would nice to have a pony, but like we got what we got, right? But so is it it's not determinative enough, right? It was just like a a wish kind
of. >> Well, it's also like it's not people weren't voting on anything. This was a a survey of people's interests. Um >> and like we specifically uh solicited this feedback not on >> we didn't offer anybody any expectation
that we would do what people wanted us to do or what people were interested in. We were soliciting interest >> and that I mean devoid of things like cost and >> usage and all the rest of it and
availability of space and resources. we were surveying their interest uh in having something, not necessarily their approval for is this something that we should pursue. So >> I just think it's >> which is what we meant to be doing, >> right? I just think it should be informing us when we're we're about to
do our goals stuff, right? We should be using that as information >> for that and we don't need to always go back to it say well the survey said this because again they're pretty common sense things. I just think it should help us focus in on a few items for the goals. And we've had I've been here I
haven't been here that long, but I think we've had like two people come in here. If we had a hundred people come in here to speak about parks opinions, we'd be floored, right? So, I think we should take that and at least help us have that help us inform what goals are for this
coming year. And there's a there's also >> I was just gonna say I ag I I agree with that and I even though we're we're not supposed to act on this survey, I feel like we do need to be informing our community of yes, we're exploring a dog
park and these are the reasons why it's not going to move forward instead of just saying a no like we we asked for a gazebo, these are the reasons why. It's always like bring me ideas and then the answer is no. But what do we do with that? It's not a two-way street, the
conversation. So, that needs to be improved. Otherwise, we're always we're we're hamsters on a wheel and my I this is my third year and I feel it's the same same agenda all the time. >> Yeah, >> there's some lowhanging fruit in here, right? Like which I don't think we
should ignore. I fully agree with you. 100 people is statistically significant. >> Um we just need to take it, >> put it into our goals and see how we move the needle. There are some easy ones. There's, and I'll come back.
There's a spinning seat at Village Park. It just needs to be fixed. And they're saying not replace, just fix it. So, there's one that is easy. Um, >> there's redoing the playground at Milstone. I know we've talked about this again, making it ADA compliant. Great
idea. Can go into the backlog. I know that goes through the grant process, Kim, like what we did here. Um the the message is that it's completely unusable for most kids. One person is saying it, >> right? >> We take it. That's that's great. There's
a there's another one around the barbecue area not being in great shape at Village Park. >> Again, should be fairly, you know, easy. It's not a fix to replace the barbecue area. It's sprucing it up, bring it back to life. And then there's the elephant,
right, which I know we're we're we're not talking about it. It's pickle ball. >> It's all over the survey. We've gone through the cycle and it's explicit that we're talking about, you know, several people saying they want pickle ball separate from the tennis
courts. We've got to bring it back onto the list and reasonably either go back and respond on top of the invite to say, "Okay, come give us your interest and say this is what came up, but here's here's where the town stands on pickle ball." or we've got to put it back on
the list and take it back out there once more and really legitimately kind of make a make another effort at looking at >> getting something done because that is I I marked out like six or seven responses at different parts of the survey. >> So there there is you know there is a
lot in here. I mean it's not the other the other one that looked like it was fairly low hanging fruit connecting the walking path from Reinhardt to Cranberry Preserve. Someone's actually saying they do that and they're also suggesting it's through the edge of the farmlands
want to include material you know impact to how people use those facilities. Of course, everything about the wreck needing, you know, more options, that's also acknowledged, >> right? >> And they would be good things to bring back to the mayor's announcement and
say, "Okay, following up on what we heard, here are some things." And then when you go back, if we're doing the survey, whether it's this year or the next year, you say, "Okay, based on the survey, we heard it and here are some things we tried." >> Yeah. >> Failed. Here are some things we tried and worked >> right. Or deferred, like whatever
>> or deferred. It makes you also people be more willing to engage on the survey, right? If they read that, okay, this actually, oh yeah, I did notice that happened and oh, it's too bad that didn't happen. Right. So it's >> Yeah. >> It's just becomes a a cycle. >> Yeah. >> Exactly.
>> Yeah. >> That's what brings 200 next time. >> Right. Right. >> So a lot of this comes back to goals. >> Correct. I I think like there's a handful here that we can just really scrape out and and move it into goals
and say these are these are great goals. There's clearly support in the town for it. >> So do you go together or have you do that? >> I I don't have a a list of goals. Um,
I wanted to open that up and and talk amongst ourselves what we think those might be. Um, >> did we did we toss out a couple of goals though at the like our December meeting I thought or was
>> or do we want to like a new like official goals list more focused on I have so many focused on just this survey or do you want like >> oh not necessarily just on this survey um >> best best of
Yeah, because I thought we did. Everyone had to kind of go around and say what a few of our goals were. >> You know, something something that I've done in in the past is, you know, maybe ask each commissioner to like go through
their goals, list their top >> three, bring it back, and then we can then go through each one and say, "All right, these are the ones we're going to try to hit." Um, you know, I think to to discuss this, you know, I I think it needs to be a little bit more uh
organized and ready to go before we should really get into an indepth conversation. >> Totally agree. I think that's a more productive way. >> Yep. >> I I mean I that I tend to agree with that too. I I mean I don't I I know I'm the chair here, but like I don't know
what to do with any of these stuffs like the goals. I completely agree with you, Christina, about like I feel like we're always on the hamster wheel and we're just we talk about the same stuff over and over again and I feel like our options are talk more about the same
thing or talk less about the same thing and never to talk about something else or to actually do anything sometimes. >> Well, my suggestion is we're we're here we're volunteering to try to make some impact. So, if everybody wants to email me to top three or five goals,
>> Yep. I'll throw it in an Excel by category and we should use that as a working document along with the agenda because like we're going to put things in goals and then it's just we're never going to talk about it, right? So, we need to >> to your point take some action like the
spinning wheel was completed. It needed oil. It was fixed like I think a week after or a week before it happened. The ADA compliant playground that's easy. someone could take an action and start scoping that out like so we should >> right
>> you know have some sort of list and then deliverable to the folks the hundred people that responded I mean >> I think they owe that >> right what even if it isn't on the survey I think it's still worth sending out yeah >> so so
>> I mean some of the goals could be you know we we talked about a special event over in the fall or summer late summer, you know, that that should be on on as one of the goals. Adding some >> um additional camps in the summer, adding some programs in the winter.
>> Yeah, that's what we talked about in December. So, like that. Yeah, >> but you're already starting some of those things, right? So, this gets back to you, you just brought up some lowhanging fruit on some fixes, we're already adding some camps, but this is my point. Then you can start saying, >> you know, we're already starting to see things that are happening. We talked
about the bathrooms, right? like are we going to actually take that money and go out and do the survey that was needed >> to look into the bathroom feasibility, right? Those sort of things are they should be going in the mayor's update, right? Parks and wreck update.
>> Here's what's going on with camp. And so I think that's also something we have to be thinking about is how are we getting our message out? We don't have our own Facebook group or anything like that. So, how do we start putting together some bullets and minutes that can go into those mayor's updates regularly
because we are and especially Ken's doing so much stuff like we should be getting some more play in those. >> Yeah. So, I'm happy to everyone emails me the top three to five and then I could share that during each meeting if
you want and we could just go down the list. >> Maybe that'll help us facilitate conversation. Do we make that next meeting about that? Like between now and then we get you I mean I've have my five already but we could give you those three to five and then for the next meeting we have like we portion off part
of it to say like okay this is our list like >> because some of them you're some of us are going to have cross one so that's going to be pretty easy to say we should prioritize the >> we're going to get back 40 >> items we should probably prioritize them a little bit.
>> Yeah. And some will be crossover, right? So my >> right >> yeah I think it's a great starting point >> and some are aspirational and some are you know fixing the swing >> like there some of them are easy and some of them are like how do we redo Milstone Park completely kind of thing like there's small and big things
>> yeah makes sense >> pickle more pickle ball of course yeah >> cricket pitch cricket pitch and pickle ball >> we tried that >> and the bathroom >> and a bathroom >> and a new playground >> um I also So, I
unaccountably keep not doing this, but I do want one of my goals is to make some amendments to those rules and regulations for the parks. Um, I have the most pathetic excuse of that I don't have a current version of Microsoft Word on my computer and my shift key and all
my punctuation is broken. So, it's extremely tedious to do anything um other than point my mouse around. Um, I don't have also any um anything to report on the chest table shading either. Didn't does anyone have any on
anything on that? >> Well, >> what doesn't require water? cacti. >> Yeah. >> Um and other succulents. >> Yeah. >> But a shady one that provides >> sharflatable palm trees.
>> There you go. >> Yeah. Like the ones that put out the shore palm trees. >> There you go. >> There. It's also umbrellas. >> Yeah. I was just going to say can the in the parks um
mag the catalog there were those large umbrellas are we can we explore that idea or was that like we explored that and they somebody said no I can't remember >> that would go just like the ones that
have the poles and they have like a fabric over them that that >> they're nice ones for the playground like there's different shapes But that would serve the purpose. >> That would serve the purpose for sure. >> But I mean,
>> yeah, that's that's kind of what that is. Yeah. >> Just feels like that's a lot more expensive than getting three trees and putting them in the ground. >> It is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. How expensive can it be for a
stick and some fabric? I mean, >> no liability. >> There you go. Um, >> it gets very windy. >> Sorry, Kelly. >> I'm feeling off today, guys. Um, are we >> Where are we on on goals? Are we um
>> ready to close that that agenda item out for today? >> Yeah, if we could um like I'll send an email out on the cranberry email in like a date to get it and then I could consolidate it, send it back out to you prior to the meeting and then we could
just have a conversation about it. All right. Um >> Um Yeah. Well, >> and I think on email we can decide who would want to work. We can't work on groups bigger than three, right?
>> Correct. >> So maybe we could say what we're interested in, what we'd be willing to subcommittee on for >> we Yeah. Okay. >> Then we wouldn't have to be wasting time here. >> Um All right. Well, in the interest of
that, um, new business, uh, the historic baseball game, I I've been in touch with Ken and I both been Have you We both I know we've talked about it. I don't know if you've individually been in touch with the guy, >> but um, we you know,
>> he has uh the information about um, reserving a space. So, that's >> I don't think it's happened yet, although I wouldn't have known necessarily if it did. I don't get those applications. >> No, we haven't gotten anything yet. >> Wait, historic baseball I had it is
August 26th. >> I think it's meant to be in the fall. >> I wrote down on my January thing historic baseball August 26, but that might have changed. >> Let me see here. Please sign into your Microsoft 365
account. because I remember asking if we wanted to try to make it more robust and then I said something about selling the food and stuff. >> Let me see here. >> But all I wrote was 826-
historic bball game. >> I have I have September 26. September. >> Um, >> yeah, you and then you asked me what they would need. I said they need to fill out a permit and they haven't done that yet. So, >> um, yeah. Well, I I was like, "Do you
need what do you need from us?" And he's like, "We just need the facility." And I was like, "Okay, well, you know, Here's how >> it's um meant to be at village >> and what that's where it was last time.
Okay. Um action items. I have uh the rules and regulations for me. Uh emailing our goals to Christina. Um, I'm going to check in with Sally. I think she'll be back to attend the next DC meeting, but um, if not, I I can do
that. And, um, I didn't capture anything else from our meeting today for action items. Did anyone else have one? I think >> because I think most everything wraps up in the goals stuff at this point, right?
So we have those action items should be probably because I I think that's part of what we also do is we go a mile wide and an inch deep. So doing the goals exercise will hopefully focus us a little bit because yeah, we do tend to talk about nine different things and not
make a lot of progress on any of them >> which is normal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. It is not the fourth month of the year yet. >> I know. Just don't start. Oh god.
>> All right. Um, let if there's nothing else from anybody. Let's move on to our public comment. I'm going to open our public comment session for any members of the public who might want to comment. There's no one here indicating that they
want to do so. There's no one here at all. So, I'm going to close public comment and um if there's nothing further um I'll entertain a motion and a second to adjurnn. >> I'll motion to adjurnn. >> Thank you. Is there a second for that motion? >> I'll second.
>> All right. Thank you everyone. We are adjourned. >> Thank you.