all right I am going to call this meeting to order a meeting of the uh Cranberry Parks and Recreation Commission uh let us begin with the pledge of allegiance i pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all all right if we can have our statement of adequate notice read pursuant to the Open Public Meetings Act
notice of this meeting was sent to the Cranberry Press the Trenton Times and the Home News Tribune on January 3rd 2025 posted on the bulletin board posted on the township's website and sent to those who requested a copy of this notice and uh can we have a roll call and we'll
also we can also report our volunteer hours okay Christina is absent brendan um I am here and I'm gonna say for the six hours okay uh Katie is
excused kelly's excused uh Omar nope i think he's coming so we'll we'll circle her back uh Sally uh present two hours two hours okay deepo
here two hours okay and Fallon here 1 hour okay and Michael's excused we'll wait for Omar to get settled here one hour all right all right we have a quorum
um we have our minutes from last month to approve uh if no one has anything to discuss I would entertain a motion and a second to uh approve the minutes i entertain a motion to approve the minutes make a motion yes I'll second it
all right thank you Sally all right um roll call please on the motion to approve the draft minutes for March brendan yes okay Katie's out kelly is
not here omar yes sally yes deepo yes fallon yes and Michael is not here all right um we have our reports uh let's start with our recreation director
Ken Jacobs okay um we're continuing to take summer camp registration it's coming along um I don't think we had anything for the Department of Public Works so um nothing
new at least nothing new right we we have quite a few things the tennis pickleball court uh project went out to bid um the uh low bidder was uh determined and I believe the contract
has been or will be soon awarded to the contractor which means work will start uh I would say within uh the next few weeks um so that's good news and it was um I believe under the projected budget
that we had for that project um the pavilion roof we did receive a uh the grant for that the county grant um actually it was the state grant um so now I'm working to try to get pricing
again from um the different companies to get that project you know completed that that should be a fairly quick uh turnaround um you know doing a roof should only take a day or so um once we once we find the company that um we're
going to use on that um the field hockey we're still finalizing all the details i did actually get proposals for additional programs in the summer one was a basketball camp um and I believe
it was a baseball camp from the coach at the at the Cranberry School so working out the details for those and um once once we do uh put those together we'll do an email blast to everybody they would be half day like one week uh
programs um I don't think that they would interfere with like the day camp registration um if it did it would just be a minimal amount of uh uh people that would possibly go to
camp instead of uh the day camp um and then the summer camp like I said we're doing registration i got the uh bus bids in and uh I've um notified the company who is going to be doing the
busing uh we are working on the contract for a swim for the swim club and the next thing to finalize is the staffing so uh we're we're in pretty good shape i actually did uh the letter today to the school district who requesting the rooms
that we are looking for and um asking them to keep the pricing the same as in previous years so hopefully we're able to to do that as well so yeah right now we're in full summer camp uh
mode um can the the sports camps um will those be primarily targeted for cranberry residents or is it open for others as well uh you know being so cranberry being so small but I mean most
likely majority of our summer camp kids are are cranberry I would think the same thing i wouldn't I but I wouldn't stop somebody from out of town uh to do it and and if that is the case then do we generally sort of put some messaging out
there outside of the email blast that you know the mayor sends out like how how do we get messages out well you know that's we go through the schools with flyers um that's our that's like our biggest um way of getting it out to the
town we don't advertise outside of the town that we're open though um for that kind of thing most of the time it would be somebody who would maybe work in town here that has that doesn't live in town and they ask to to uh to join we tell
them yeah yeah and for the summer camp um we open it to Cranberry residents first yeah for a certain period of time and then we open it to non-residents and non-residents pay a little bit extra well we would do the same thing for
these type of camps too charge a little bit it's I think it's what 20 $20 or $10 or something like that so it's not a lot but we would we would open it to Craranberry residents first and then and then do non-residents and do you do you
have a sense for how how big each of them are the class size or uh I have well this will be the first time that we do these um from with with uh individuals or coaches at the school
we've done other programs um through like a private company and you know sometimes they get 15 to 20 kids you know I think 30 would be it would be a great turnout for them okay that's helpful mhm
um anything else for Ken um first of all I want to thank you for uh all this stuff because it's stuff that parks tried to do before with the roof and the pickle ball court and all that stuff and you know we tried for years to get this stuff and you're
really getting the ball rolling so I want to thank you for that um and then could you just provide a little update on the water bottle filling station for Heritage Park sure um so I've reached out to a local plumber uh can we just
can we start with that we have the we have the product we have the water bottle filling drinking fountain stations here on hand paid for in our custody they need to be installed and um we are that's what we're waiting for
yeah so and I met with Shadree today there and she approved the space again it was approved long ago by Matt Scott but Shadere said it's absolutely no problem so okay it's we have the place we we have the place we we just you know
and originally you know it was the hope that public works was going to be able to install this and I think that there was a lot of back and forth on that um the reality is they really don't have the time or the manpower to to do this
so you know we talked about uh just finding a a local plumber that would be able to do that i've reached out to a local plumber we're going back and forth donna will uh validate that for me um but we may need to get
multiple company pricing from multiple companies anyway um this is like the next thing on my list i want to get this done before summertime for sure so um we we'll get this done but we're going back
and forth getting pricing but once we find a company get a price get the purchase order done again that should be a very quick uh turnaround on that just getting on their schedule to get that done terrific then uh we at this point you're
just working with the township administrator on that we don't have to necessarily loop in the TC at this stage right right good stuff all right just quickly on the camp is the basketball proposal co-ed or is it um I I haven't looked at that one
in uh detail yet so um I would I would suggest that it would be you know but I haven't really got into details of that i wanted to get I have to get all the the information for summer camp you know this I wanted to get the the busing done
all that stuff done now I can concentrate on these other programs that are really just extras totally okay just one thing and I mean I might even suggest that hey why don't you if it doesn't work out with the camp they
don't get the numbers why don't you come to camp maybe couple afternoons and be great you know we could maybe pay you something and and the kids could could do that so they I want to encourage this for sure I'd like to see it happen
that's great okay thanks alrighty um parks preserves updates i will note that I was in Heritage Park today and there's a kite stuck in a tree um it's rather
large kite too um and it's it's too high for like a l Well I mean it's not nothing's too high for a ladder it's too high for like a you know one of those A-frame ladders you you need like one of those much longer ladders that you lean up against a tree or something or a bucket truck or something but um that
Sally you're there often do you know how long that's been there um we've been enjoying watching it for several weeks okay every time we go by we say "Is the kite still there is the kite still there?" So yes at least several weeks
and it it's not hurting anything and it's kind of pretty up there maybe we just call it an art installation and move on i mean it does very much still look like a kite it doesn't look like garbage in the tree it It does look like a kite but but after a while it will but I don't think it's going to stay that
way forever um but I don't know what kind of material it's made of you never know these days um so we've got the kite at Heritage um Sally alerted me and I also went and
observed firsthand that they did uh repaving of the paved parts of the um driveway and parking lot in Village Park including they paved
um at that first parking lot when you first come in on the left um closer to the housing development there is pavement now that goes all the way from the driveway to the intersection with
with the um new walking trail now that's only like 10 ft or so but that now that 10 ft now does provide a seamless paved connection between um the walking trail and more so the walking trail and the
housing development seamless paved connection with town however it is not what um was represented to us as what would happen i understood that there would be a crosswalk involved and there is no I mean there's a crosswalk that
was there before they have now painted it um where the walking trail is but there is no crosswalk from the sidewalk leading from town to across the driveway to the walking trail i I thought there would I Well I was told there would be
one and there is there is not one sally can you put your mic on sorry that's what we had asked for and we were told we would get um to connect basically to connect the walking trail to town we asked for a crosswalk to
cross the main paved road into Village Park and they said they would do that for us and connect it to the sidewalk which is that way these anybody on that path could have a continuous way into town and we were told that that was what we were going to get i would anybody
like me like me to pass around so you can see it it's um it's the circle right next to where the star is and there's in a colored pencil there's a little thingy where I that's where it was going to be i took some photos uh today when I went out there um and I when I get a chance
will put them in an email and and distribute them to uh our members but also feel free to to pop over yourself um as long as it's between uh dawn and dusk um and um I mean honestly that sidewalk
leading from town up the driveway is I mean that word side is doing a lot of work because it's like barely 3 feet or four feet wide it's basically not super functional as a sidewalk um I mean you could certainly walk on it but it I
mean you couldn't necessarily go two pe you you definitely couldn't do two people walking next to each other and there's no barrier uh there's no grass strip there's no curb between the sidewalk and the driveway now having said that it is not a street it's a driveway so as far as safety it goes
it's not really much of a problem to speak of um so I I don't I don't think there's too much value loss but it is not what I was expecting or what we were told is the narrowness of that sidewalk because of overgrowth of shrubbery next to it or
is it just plain narrow sidewalk it's just the pavement itself is is pretty narrow and I don't I think that the shrubbery is all right today um as in like today um but I mean frequently when I'm there the shrubbery is quite
overgrown and the sidewalk's not even functional because it's it's too narrow and the combination of the narrowness and the overgrowth of the of the shrubbery it just makes it so you you can't really use it um which again is is not the worst problem to have because
it's a driveway that's paved and it's it's pretty safe to to walk on but um ideally there would be you know a functional sidewalk It's better than walking in the street though and that's what we asked for and that's what the
town said they would give us so I don't know what we do for followup on this to make sure that um if you look at the little map that there is a crosswalk across the main paved road so it's where the star is on the side and
um I don't know i mean I think that the project is done it's been bid and presumably the vendor has been paid so I mean until there's another opportunity I I don't think it's worth it to do something but I do think it's worth it
to talk now about what happened and what can we do down the road well I I I I think it would be important to bring it up to the township committee so that they know that this was something that we asked for and were told would happen by a township committee member i believe it was Mr
fronte who approved this um I don't have and I will talk to um our leaison about leazison Matt about that and I'll mention it to other township committee members when I speak to them
um is there anything else for preserve updates anybody have anything uh they have observed and wish to report of course please there was a tree down blocking the um trail in Yunami and I
emailed public works and they got rid of it that day excellent so they were very um very efficient on that and I appreciate that um so Yamami looks good now it has been very windy these last few days i haven't walked in but uh Village Heritage and Yunami all look
good and lots of people using the walking trail in a village I noticed which is nice i'm happy to see that um I I did and this is not necessarily a new observation but the sort of worn down
area by the uh parking lot at Heritage where we had put some wood chips is uh largely devoid of wood chips i I don't know we we're we may have to rethink that a little bit because those just they don't seem to last very long i
know it's been a while since they were replaced well I've brought this up many times and I was told it's it's regular maintenance but they have not maintained it so um maybe we could put down something that's heavier than wood chips there some um uh
gravel dust or something like that that might not wash away yeah i mean I don't know if like it's prudent to maybe like dig down like an an inch or two to lay the wood chip because there like you
you if but not for the remaining few wood chips you would have no idea that there ever were any um and I don't like it's not like a playground where it overflows the the playground area and there's like scattered bits nearby there just seem to be no wood chips at all well you can see they are washed away
they're washed into the parking lot but like not not as many as you might expect because they hadn't maintained it in a very very long time so um so that is I don't have a solution for that right now other than to uh keep that on the list of things to be done
and to maybe think about what else we can do uh either to keep the wishes in place or to do something else i think that putting down pavement is not the right solution at this point but we may come to a point where we think that is the right solution
um anyone else have thoughts on that it's just very highly traveled so it needs something we cannot get people to stop walking there we've tried for years regular maintenance on wood chips or something else i don't know um Ken is that something you can talk to Jerry
about the wood chip path thank you all right um I think that is it for parks preserves updates to report um environmental commission did they have a meeting we have it next Monday so there was no meeting in between so there is no
report i knew I knew they were meeting next Monday and I didn't think they met at the week after us last month either um is there anything you need me to bring to them there the only thing I did send I did send an email to the chair and we're talking about uh having the trail cleanup day and there is I don't
have the date in front of me but I sent it to him in an email it was it's a national trail day or something and then I suggested doing it that day so I guess that will be mentioned at next Monday's meeting all right good stuff um S you'll attend yes sir okay um Shade Tree
Commission i did meet with um I did speak to um Kathy Easton the Shade Tree Chair a few times um in the past few days and some of that I will get to when we get to um the Cody Foundation
sculpture um trying to think if there was anything else from that that is prudent to report here um she noticed a couple trees in Heritage Park that needed uh attention yeah that needed uh they needed to we need to get
an arborist to look at them um but the we need to get an arborist to look at them because they may have to go possibly that's the bottom line but we don't know um and I think that was it for now
um township committee uh so Matt said he would be running a little bit late but it is already 25 after so I'm thinking maybe he is running more than a little bit late um I will cover part of that when we get
to the foundation sculpture it they did approve the um the proposal at the township committee meeting on Monday but it was contentious i will get to that in our old business
um and I'm trying to think here if there's other stuff to report there um I don't think so no did anyone else have something that they were looking to
hear from TC on or expecting to okay well if Matt comes in we will happily hear what he has to tell us but for now we'll move on to old business the splash pad idea looks like it is not going to
happen i think um TC is not super hot on this and they haven't exactly they haven't voted on it or anything like that and here's Matt um so we'll circle back to that matt
Scott our liaison from the township committee is here and um we are ready for you um so yeah so a few updates um we'll start with the u the uh splash pad
um I don't know if you're all aware but the the township committee um basically uh for now is saying no to the idea that they're um in general they feel that
um they're not comfortable with going forward with a project that you know has a relatively high dollar amount um which they don't really see any um ground swell for um uh for attention in town so I'm going
to pull up this email one second okay so um basically did a straw poll of all the TC members a few weeks back and Brendan is aware of this conversation but they they essentially uh felt that they weren't opposed to the idea in
general but they think that um there needs to be more work done on on behalf of parks and rack as far as getting um more input from the town um and a little more research on on what the project is and comparing it to what other towns
have done so their recommendations are essentially no for now but what they would like is they would like the parks and Rex to to maybe work on uh putting together um maybe a a two slide
presentation on what exactly the splash pad project would be and also to work on maybe getting some um input from the town um as we all know it's hard to communicate with the town a lot of what we do is in a vacuum even on the TC um
but they would recommend maybe like doing a Google poll or somehow get some get some feedback and input from the town um and then um once we get that together once you guys get that together we can sort of have that on file for the TC and then in
future years if if we decide this is a project we want to move forward on you'll have that information background so um that's essentially where they're at okay um we had a meeting this past Monday uh moving on we um voted to approve the the
Helen Cody sculpture um in a new location um a smaller sculpture there was a couple questions on um the impact on the trees that be around the sculpture so um going to reach out to uh shade tree
to get their input but um and then there are some questions on the actual wording on the plaque for the sculpture but essentially you have the approval of TC so we can move forward with that which I think is great um uh just to note uh there uh for context the new location is
still in Heritage Park still along the walking trail it's um basically at uh if you're at the this is the best way I can describe it I think but I also took pictures and we'll send them around if you're at the playground and if you're
walking counterclockwise on the loop toward Ultran Road and um South Main Street and the parking lot and the fountain if you're walking in that direction from the playground it's that first fork that you come to right at that juncture is uh the proposed location so it's relatively It's closer
to the fountain than it is to the playground now yes which is great and and we did meet with Shade Tree and they were perfectly fine with it okay kathy Eastston was perfectly fine with that area yeah that happened about an hour ago oh really oh good well there we go
fantastic yeah yeah i mean I I mean look full disclosure I I was in support of the project 100% the vote was three to one um I think the idea that um you know you've got a a foundation coming in that's done so much for this town they're paying for it i think it's a
it's a beautiful addition to the park so I'm glad that we passed it i think that um you know there's some concern from from the TC a few members of the TC that it would set a precedent that we're allowing towns people to put memorials in for for fallen members of town but
you know we reiterated the fact that this is not necessarily a a a memorial of of the person but rather of the foundation um so they wanted that reiterated but it regardless I I think it's a fantastic project and it be a
beautiful addition to the park so um I'm happy that we're able to approve that so so that's good um we also uh this past meeting on Monday we approved funding for um the pickle ball resurfacing and for the um
uh the pavilion roof so both those things are are underway so you're calling it pickle ball but it's also there's also going to be a tennis court there of course yes okay just want to make sure multi-use tennis/pickle yeah dog walking pickle ball tennis
whatever you want to do in there sure actually to drill down on that it is the surface is the surface but we're having it lined for pickle ball and for tennis so I mean as long as you can tell the lines apart which shouldn't be too difficult there are squares and
rectangles it they're you know it you can use it for both purposes make a final decision on how many courts then is it going to be two two tennis courts and four pickle ball courts no it's two and two two tennis courts and one of the tennis courts will also
be lined for pickle ball on on both so just as it is now yeah but there's nothing to stop um anyone from you know bringing some chalk with them and and laying out a grid themselves if they want to play pickle ball on the second tennis court of course you do have to be
careful that not to monopolize the space pickle ball is perpendicular to the tennis court so if someone's playing pickle ball they can't play tennis is that right uh you can play tennis on one court okay and pickle ball you can have as many as three games going on at a time two pickle ball and one tennis
or four if you brought chalk and line to the other tennis court four pickle ball yourself well but we but we won't have four nets i'm pretty sure getting two nets i don't want to encourage talking that's how we did it in the beginning Mr scott we brought our chalk and our tape
measure for every time we went to play sure right yeah um again if I could just reiterate this going back to this the splash pad the the feeling of the TC was you know not opposed to the idea in theory but they really would like some
more leg work done as far as getting uh input like if you look back at the um the playground we put in last year you know we got a lot of town support there were a lot of towns folk coming to the TC meetings and and and advocating for that project so the the TC was more comfortable moving
forward with that because there was a lot of um obvious uh organic sort of support for it as far as the splash pad they felt like you know this sort of came out of the blue and they didn't know if anyone in the town was really in favor or against so they would like to
see any projects going forward they would like to see um some some sort of research done getting feedback from town getting input from the town prior to moving forward on projects like that so I think it's reasonable but I think that was our intention um maybe not the town
part but especially the research about different kinds and areas and where we knew this was a long-term project we were just hoping that you didn't say no outright and we're personally I'm pleased that you didn't and knowing that if we want to put more effort into it we can and so I appreciate that from the TC
yeah i'm going to um work with some of the people who worked on putting the splashbad proposals together i'm going to work with them on putting I mean it's already in writing but I'm going to work on putting it in writing in a succinct way and
submitting it as an email on behalf of from myself on as chair on behalf of the rest of us to the township committee members so that that's out there and documented other than some words passing between us in this room on a YouTube
feed um so we have something to point back to down the road to say here's where it started here's what we were thinking at the time um and I want to make a practice to do more of that on a regular basis um not for everything necessarily but when we have you know substantial
projects to um to sort of put pen to paper and bring our receipts kind of thing and uh that will I think help move things along and it will help avoid maybe some fingerpointing three years down the road yeah
um but I think that um I'm I'm glad we we have uh this feedback from the township committee on the splash pad and the sort of desire for more um exploration well not that's not
exactly what they said the desire for more support more evidence um public input and um demand yeah you know again with the demise of local newspapers and
sort of everyone's kind of busy and they don't really pay attention to the meeting so I think it's hard to get public input a lot of times until it's sort of after the fact unless it's something that's sort of advocacy based like a you
know all needs playground but um yeah I think um you know I I personally went through this from trying to do a couple things on the TC where I sent out Google surveys um and you know it works you do get feedback so I I would recommend you
know sort of um pushing that out and figure out a way you guys can do that you know get get input i I feel like something like the splash pad just speaking for myself that you know I think there'd be a lot of support for it and if you had you know a few hundred
town residents highly in support of it you know young parents who want something for their kids to do I feel like you know if you presented that to the TC you might be able to sway some votes so all right well we will uh work in that direction um well we'll work
with that goal uh we and we will proceed in that direction if that's what what the public supports and if there's the demand if the evidence comes back that it turns out not to be value for money we will we won't proceed but that we're aiming to produce value for money and we're aiming to to see if we can make
this happen at some point in the medium term and by medium term I mean like several years down the road if I can ask of you guys maybe you know by the end of the year maybe have something if you know if um you guys could reach out to town and
see what input is on splashb and we can maybe revisit it in uh in 2026 all right I will make a note of that and I will also include that in my sort of post meeting um note to our members who
aren't here today um splashpad timeline 2026 all right um did anyone have any questions or um comments for Matt on any of these issues or on any other issues were we going to
mention to him about the crosswalk in in Village Park yes yes so um we had it approved by um a previous member of TC um Michael Fonte that when they repaved
the parking lot in Village Park they were going driveway they were going to add a crosswalk across the major RI road in connecting the new walking trail with the with the town basically with the sidewalk and the town
and they just did the paving and they didn't include that okay have they done striping yet yes i mean there is a there is a crosswalk but it's on the path where the the path
had already been yeah so the path crosses um part of the parking lot the gravel parking lot it's rough so they they paid us and they put a crosswalk here but we had asked and gotten approval is we'd have to take out
some grass and put in um you know that handicap thingy there just those little bumps you have at the side and to and put a crosswalk here so that then the people from this area who was specifically asked to be connected to town whether they come through this new
way or through the path could then cross here and go down to town that way there's no sidewalk here there is a sidewalk here it's It's quite minimal it's about three or four feet wide here so we wanted it to connect to that sidewalk and go to town okay so the good
news from our point of view is that there is now the pavement the good news from our point of view is there is now the pavement connecting um the walking path with the sidewalk the primary Yeah with the sidewalk and the primary driveway um the sidewalk's
always connected to the primary driveway because there's no curb or grass in between um but there is no crosswalk there is no painting going across the driveway there is painting only going across the gravel parking lot um and
it's not new pavement is just painting on where old pavement had been which is uh which is not what I was expecting which is not what was represented to us which is um I understand that there's probably like this project is bid and
paid for and done um but um that is something uh that we we had been hoping to see that and I yeah find that unfortunate does anyone recall what
was agreed to and agreed to by the TC as far as this I I can't recall I remember remember the conversation we didn't have like a you know a schematic or an engineer drop anything for us to uh initial but we we talked about there being a crosswalk across the driveway or
the street or whatever not just the little entrance to the parking lot and that would have involved um taking some of the grass out by the signs that are there because there's there's nothing there on the on the Maplewood Avenue side no right near the
the bicycle fixing station there's a couple of signs there about the park and that's where we wanted it to come through there's like a snow fence or something there right now i don't know what that's there for at this point during this time of year um but it would run right through there briefly for like
10 feet okay u I will uh I'll follow up with Miss Marbello because obviously she would be the um the person who would would know what uh transpired as far as the the contractors were going to do and what they weren't going to do um and I'll
I'll get back to you guys at the next meeting thank you yep um anyone else for Matt alrighty um so thank you Matt um can you get your
mic thank you um we have uh circle procurement we do not have what we don't have a a very large uh group here tonight we have five out of the nine of us um and
I open this to anyone who has anything to add but um I would say that perhaps um well just for the minutes can I say that I did go and measure it um I was asked to do that and I went and measured it
and it is uh definitely an oval 61t one way by 33 feet the other way so we can approximate 60 by 30 so in our um vision some of us I know um Christine
and I had the vision of if we had if we were to put in a covered pavilion flat thing there and let's say it was a relatively decent size 15 foot by 15 foot even on the skinny area there would still be 15 feet left so figure seven
and a half ft on each side where maybe that's where the the pavement could go into it or the brick stone the you know paving stones and then on the other sides on the long sides there's still plenty of room for any kind of either
art installment or bushes or you know it's it's big enough that I think we could fit a few things in there so I know we have a lot to talk about but I did measure it and I wanted that in the minutes before I lost my little piece of paper thank you Sally
um so if if no one I will say if no one has new ideas or information to bring today I I I don't think that the discussion behooves us uh at this particular meeting but I I I am not taking this off the agenda we're not I think we should come up with a decision
and hopefully put it in next year's budget um I agree Sally i think that uh it's something that's feasible it's not nearly as big as as a splash pad and um it'd be nice to put something in there it's going to be a long time till the trees get big enough to shade those
areas so it be nice to have something um moving on we have Heritage Park the Helen Cody Foundation sculpture um Matt touched on that i touched on that briefly the proposals approved uh there were some concerns uh some very
uh deeply held concerns from uh Barbara Rogers who would not be shy to say so um so I don't want us feel like anyone to feel like oh I'm like calling her out here she said it in public so I'm repeating it there's nothing everything's above board there um but
the project is going to go forward i think there are still a few questions as there always are with projects like these about timing and you know exact placement you know 3 feet to the left three feet to the right i did meet uh an about an hour ago well about two hours
ago now with um with Kathy Eastston from Sha Tree and Sally was there too because she was walking a dog and um she is not concerned about uh the location at that little fork in the path
um there are trees nearby but given that the footprint is about it's it's two foot by two foot and six inches into the ground um to the best of our knowledge um that should not be problematic there was also something she raised that one
of the trees the one closest to the trail right where the the fork in the path is is um I mean she's she none of the three of us were qualified to make this judgment but she spotted that tree as something that they need to have an arburous look
at and that tree might need to go uh for uh might be in poor health and need to go and that would um very much uh simplify the picture because we'd be having one less tree and a lot more um space to deal with and the other thing she mentioned is that the trees that are
there I I don't know her exact term but she said there are small branches so the concern of any branches damaging the tree is not a major concern because there it's a tree with small branches if that makes any sense yeah we we did hear
um a concern at the the township committee meeting Monday about uh potential damage from falling tree limbs but um look looking there more closely today I the the metal sculpture is going to stand up to anything falling other than like the entire tree so we're in
good shape there um as far as parks and recreation commission business I don't believe there is much further for us as a group to discuss and decide there are more steps to be taken for the township but
at this point it they are they're not um they're not steps for us to take we are we've made our recommendation we've gotten our recommendation approved um the township committee will now do its work so I believe I'm going I haven't decided yet i haven't created the agenda for our next meeting but this is probably going to come off the agenda
for the next meeting um but I will report on any updates as needed and add it back to the agenda if necessary job well done yes uh thank you everyone for your work on this and I mean everyone not just the people in this room but the township committee people the people at the Helen Cody Foundation
and um the professional township staff who've also worked on this uh well done all okay we don't have any anyone have any comment on this okay um memorial benches we have no new applications and I don't think we have
any approved applications that are in the works right now either that like applications we've gotten and approved and are waiting for the rest of that process well the result the two I knew about was the Christina's and then the one for Heritage what's happening with the one for Heritage is that
okay so we're sort of in a holding pattern on that one on that second one and we are more or less good to go on on Christina's proposal um all right new business um I have you you'll find in
your little packets there is a um print out of the uh chapter of the township code chapter 108 that concerns rules and regulations for the municipal parks i think I would
like to bring this back as old business next month as something for us to look at for a potential review um there are just some things in here that I think are don't make sense or are too vague or
just should come out entirely and um I think that a a good look at this will take some time it's I mean this is an ordinance if we made a recommendation which we can do to the township committee to change this ordinance it would be up to them and it would be a
like actual change of law so lawyers would be involved in everything um it's not as easy as you know just um um I don't know amending the rules for the debate club in in high school or something it's involved um so we're
going to have to uh do our work on this but I think that this is something to look at i have some notes just to throw out there i I'm not sure how involved we want to have with this get with this conversation tonight but I have long felt that the term
Dawn to dusk for the parks being opened is insufficient what time is dawn what time is dusk sunset and sunrise have a fixed time where you can say this is before and after dawn and dusk a lot more fuzzy
um I think we should maybe try to pin that down more precisely um and there are any number of ways to do that dawn or sunrise and sunset or sunrise and sunset plus or minus x minutes or doesn't matter what
time of year it is and when the sun sets or rises at just like a certain fixed time every day um but I think that might be something to look at um we've already talked in the past about the requirement that everyone get
a permit and pay a park and pay a fee actually some of them I'm not sure if the fee is required but they do need a permit everyone who uses the athletic fields in town that's uh the soccer fields the baseball fields and that's everyone from a professional sporting
outfit to somebody who's playing catch with somebody else impromptu uh they all require a permit and I just don't know that that is really the policy we want to have
um do also how are these enforced so they're in theory enforced by the police no person And I say in theory just because they have more useful things to
do than enforce some of these things and that's I think also part of the conversation no person shall climb or stand upon tables i I mean I seats like they told me that when I was in grade school that I shouldn't climb on my desk but I mean I don't know that we need to
make it against the law and I I I don't know what what harm we're preventing or what good we're promoting by keeping people from like standing on a picnic table if they maybe want to see further or I don't know or if they just don't want to sit on the bench they want to
sit on the table and put their feet on the bench i I don't see really what the problem is there necessarily um the minutes on page whatever it is um I think it's page three um there we have three baseball
fields listed at Village Park or baseball or softball fields we only have two of them now so that should be amended to reflect the fact that one of them got turned into a uh sand volleyball court um we also have a prohibition
on rollerblading and roller skating in areas not designated for that and I to my knowledge have not we have not designated any areas for that purpose i don't see a problem and I would like to enable and allow people to like
skateboard down the walking trail in our in village or heritage park or the walking side the sidewalk type cement thing trail in Millstone Park that connects Park View Road with Old Trenton Road running past the playground i mean
under the rules as written now you you can't ride your bike or well no I'm sorry not ride your bike you can't skateboard or rollerblade or anything on those um on those trails those paths and I think that might be something to take a look at either this one might be a big
can of worms but no person shall consume or possess any alcoholic beverage i mean I get it but also like why not people do that all over the place why can't they do it in a park um groups of 10 or more are responsible for removing from the park their own
trash is that on the permits that they if they get a permit from the town that's on there i I didn't love that either um I mean also what constitutes a group like if you all plan ahead of time and meet up there separate i I don't
know um that one could be problematic and I'm also sure no one's doing it not no one but I'm sure that many people are not doing it because most groups of 10 don't actually create a lot of trash but the trash they do create they're apparently not allowed to put in the
trash bins like you know there's a soccer game and somebody throws out a stick of gum they're they have to remove it i don't know um not the hardest thing to do but why are we making it at least in the rules making it so ownorous to
visit our parks um and then there's some other like randomized things here no person shall operate any motorized vehicle other than on roadways or parking areas i would consider an electric wheelchair motorized it has an actual motor um and it's a vehicle so
that would fit the definition as far as I'm aware um but I think that they should be permitted to operate on anywhere in our park including on the walking trails um no use of metal detectors or similar
devices i get that we don't want people to have their metal detector go off in the park and then start digging for whatever metal it might be but as far as the actual use of the metal detector if there's no digging involved I I'm not sure why that would matter but if you drop your wedding ring somewhere in the
grass and you want to use a metal detector to help you find it quicker um that might be quite useful but it's currently not allowed and [Music] um there is uh there's a few other things in here
that I thought might uh merit a second look um if any of these really spoke to you as deserving attention or if anything that I said was like way off base and out of line uh please chime in
brendan should we invite the township lawyer to come and advise us on some of the points that we are considering to recommend change or would that happen at the township committee level so I I mean I would send anything like
that through either the township committee or uh Ken or the or Denise the township administrator um for that but I mean this these are laws lawyers will if we make a change lawyers
will be involved um and I I mean I think that that's a good question of whether we when that we want that to happen if we want to as a committee or as individuals on the committee be part of that conversation um but I think we we want
we're going to want to fine-tune a little bit more before we take it to that stage yeah why why don't you um have like a subcommittee for this to then make recommendations you know to the board and then from there I would I would
think it would either go to administration or uh first and then eventually to township committee because they have to vote on any of the um code changes and then once that's all done
that's when the attorney will look at the verbiage and make any changes and then they have to change you know when they change the code book that's you know the code book is the is what this is coming out of then that all cost
money as well to the township to do that so um certainly understand what you're saying i think a lot of that language is typical in almost every town like the the vehicle type thing i think it's a
stretch to to say you know electric wheelchair you're going to pull somebody over for having a wheelchair on a walking path i don't think that'll ever happen that the intent of that is obviously no cars or motorcycles going
out on areas that are not uh designated for that kind of thing um you know t it's typical to have metal detector no metal detectors in a lot of towns because like you said people go out there and and dig and and dig a hole and then leave it and you know they damage
the the park but I think if you I think if you if you want you could nitpick on every little thing that's in there it's supposed to be general I think to allow for some interpretation uh of those rules um but if there's
something egregious I think for sure Village Park is no longer three baseball fields it has it has a um you know the the beach volleyball court certainly should should be updated for that um and
you know but if we if we see something I think is is really detailed that we need to change I think that's that's a valid point you should we probably should be looking at this from from time to time and it may be time to do that because I know the recreation
commission uh never looked at it so um so it would be something that you know could look look for a review as well i did have another one um I wanted to add once now or once they're installed chess tables to list of things that may be
reserved some people might feel the need to reserve that and many times it's just tennis courts it needs to be tennis pickle ball only once do I see pickle ball mentioned so I sort of agree with Ken i think we could nitpick this through eternity um
especially with the whole group i wonder if we could circulate this by email and maybe if we all took a stab at like looking at things that we felt were truly egregious maybe aligning at the next meeting on like the key areas that we feel might benefit from an update
because I I mean I think it's fair there to me my first question was like where is this posted i don't know if I've ever seen this before in an actual park and that makes sense because it's so long and so I think there like it's a fair point that they could maybe be
simplified and modernized i don't know when they were last looked at but I feel like that could be the goal of the effort overall and if we did some of that by email as opposed to like nitpicking every line and then really aligned on where we felt
as a group we should put our effort um I work with lawyers all day long and I can't imagine much much of this going away um but I feel like there are probably areas within reason that we could make adjustments be helpful and I agree i think the idea of maybe us
sending one person our thoughts and then it could be summarized instead of all of us going one by one at the meeting might make it more efficient that that all sounds great to me i can circulate this to all of us including
the members who couldn't make it here today the one thing I I and I agree that it's not the best use of our time to everyone share how they feel about every clause the one thing I I did want to get I I want to get the ball rolling tonight and um and put put this out there and I
also wanted you all to have this to take home in paper copy um the one thing I do want to hear though specifically on is the park hours do we feel dawn to dusk is just fine it's um the first uh section uh 108-1
hours of operation and it's in the first line under that section um I mean I know that like we don't there's not an epidemic of people being ticketed and jailed for being in the park when it's not the right hours but I I mean I'm I'm
shooting a little bit higher than only fix things that are egregious well I actually spoke to the police about it and um they said their main concern is if there's a party or something going on after that but the
general person walking through the park after at dark it's not a problem so he said he's not going to give me a ticket it's not a problem but it's it is against the law i mean sunrise to sunset makes sense to
me i'm trying to figure out what dawn to dusk exactly means to me and like when I would feel I was towing the line between being against but I mean look people go for a run and they haven't gotten through the whole park yet or something so I feel like there's some reasonable
wiggle room but sunrise to sunset seems fair to me too or people who walk you know the dog early in the morning at certain times of year before the sun has risen or before or when there's a reasonable question about whether or not dawn has started or whether dawn has ended
so yeah but um I yeah I I think there's room for improvement on this one well see I'd almost rather keep it dawned to dust because it is a little ambiguous which means that there is a little wiggle room there if you say sunrise and it's sunrise is 6:43 and someone's there
at 6:40 are they are they breaking the law yeah well I mean I would a lawyer could argue anyone could argue I could argue it even though I'm not a lawyer that this is this this section is just void for vagueness it's not constitutionally sound because it doesn't actually give people sufficient
notice to know what the law is and what the law isn't because dawn and dusk are not times of day they're like ranges of times that aren't clearly defined what does West Windsor say ken ours we have lighted facilities in
most of ours so but it says dawn to dusk unless otherwise you know unless the park is being used for with lighted facilities all right um so let's all put our heads together on this i'm happy to be the
receiver of any comments you have unless somebody else wants to volunteer to take on that task but I am certainly happy to do it especially since I'm the one who asked to be done actually according to Google dawn is the time in the morning when the sun is exactly six degrees
below the horizon yes and that's same as dust but there there's like there's civil dawn and there's nautical i can't specifically uh you figure out what time dawn well I don't bring my own sex to
the the park so I can't measure the sun's angle so so that brings a slightly I guess tangential question um I guess Ken to your point lighted facilities for instance the the new
tennis and pickle ball court would something like that be a part of this that is the conduit for it to sort of be become a reality or would that be sort of outside of I don't think we're going
to light that facility ever um that's that's an argument we had an argument how much about the sound that the pickle ball might might Well I mean I agree i mean it could be any it could be baseball it could be the basketball
court right i mean I the the ex the expense of lighting any any field or court um for the amount of use it may get you know in a in this small town would probably far outweigh the the
benefit right right right i'm I'm I'm I'm with you and in that there is obviously some hoops to jump and things like that but something like that would that be part of a rules and regulation or would that be outside of this artifact as we No it would be part Yeah
you would have to mention that it would be something else yeah because we have a section about lighted y facilities and they said they you know in some parks they have to be out by like nine o'clock and other parks they can go a little bit
later till 10 so right so should the facility be there this would be the fees to set about that yes exactly what about fees like in something like this how often do fees get rebaselined i mean uh we we did them not too long ago um because there
was a whole like um tier set up like for for recreational sports that are um open only to the town it's one level and then there for travel teams it's
another level and adult travel teams it's another you know another thing so that was done not too long ago I can I can we can dig that up and and send that out as well for that may be helpful because it looks like the last amendment in totality was in 2008
um yeah I don't think so that that's something there's a it's a resolution I think that the township committee uh passed to set the fees i see and there's a range in there I believe uh actually
no not for field use it's not so um well it says here that under the fees section there was an amendment in uh April of 2024 that was that amendment was just um to wreck and park with parks and
wreck yeah and so outside of that the only other reference is in the front where it says that there was an ordinance which was passed in February of 2008 curious so it has where is that in here so that yeah these ordinance and these
numbers affect the chapter but the fees aren't in the chapter and there may have been other ordinances since then that aren't listed here it says the fees it says township committee shall determine the fees charged for any use of any township park
at letting field uh the fees charged for participation so they actually have we have the fees for our programs as well that is I believe a resolution it's a fee resolution i'm sorry yeah that's right not an ordinance it's a resolution that's a
resolution and that that can have ranges in it especially for for our programs because that gives us a leeway to not have to go back to them every single year to get changes to it yeah so um yeah there's a resolution that has that
and presumably the same for penalties as well is it the same that I I don't know about that one to be honest with you because that wouldn't come from any penalties wouldn't come from from me it would probably come from the police side
of things because they're the ones who enforce it so Right okay okay yeah that's that's helpful too yeah but if you can share that I think that when we look at this it'll be I guess it'll be helpful to look at that sure all right um let's move
on community event do we want to do one do we have ideas for one you know movie in the park event or something i I personally don't feel strongly about this
brandon I I wonder if this might be another one where we have more quum from the group and then kind of get a view from the broader group i think you're right does that work with everyone all right um action items let's put those together i have a few written
down here i have uh I am going to email the uh ch this chapter of the code out to everybody i am going to ask everyone to uh compile and send me comments they have on the code whether they feel revisions are in order i will um compile
those comments um and report back at our next meeting um or actually in advance of our next meeting so that we have all looked at it ahead of time or have had the opportunity to do so sally you will attend the EC meeting i will talk to the shade tree commission and
um I will also talk to TC about if there are well I will see if there's anything I can do to facilitate anything that still remains to be done with um the foundation and the sculpture proposal i
think that's sort of um really out of my hands right now but I'm happy to to do whatever is required um let me see what else I have we want to let DPW know about the kite in the tree in Heritage Park yeah
I'll let them know then okay we'll give it I'll tell them they leave it in your backyard i saw it and I was like is did somebody put a flag up there and I got closer and I was like no that's a kite um I have a comment about the community event would we consider
making that the um trail cleanup day and make it a community thing by offering let's say snacks and water or something and um or do we actually want some
entertainment i think we're looking for um I mean not that it's not recreation and outdoorsy and worth doing um but like recreation in the sense of like you know a a movie night or like some sort
of camping event or canoe race or something yeah okay something where I guess Yeah i don't know but I I I don't hate that idea either Sally i think that's solid um did anyone else have action items i'm looking here okay this is not
really an action item for next month but it's something I'm we're going to all keep on our radar that we want to make some progress on the splashpad idea put some thoughts together or abandon it uh by the end of the calendar year we want to have something to show for that i am
also having for myself I'm gonna work with the other um members who worked on this flash idea to put a sort of two or three page document together a few images a few slides that we can submit to the township committee and I can CC
all the members here um so we all have that sort of on file as it were um and Matt if you could um see if there's anything to be done to shed light on the um the crosswalk situation
thank you again just to reiterate if you could garner some sort of public input far as a splash or your process there all right anyone else have an action item anyone else have something
that they want to be an action item sally please you good are you sure now's your chance well of course we all need to go to our our assigned parks and preserves and check them out indeed we do maintenance actually that reminds me i I said I was going to send out some photos
of um some things that I I took today with the new person on board um Mr b have we gone through who has what park and preserve recently maybe we should put that on our next agenda so that people know or are reminded of which one
they're supposed to you know at least try to trek through i had uh Tim Brennan ask me about doing a park cleanup with the Boy Scouts is that something that just garbage they're just going to go pick up garbage i don't
think uh there's nothing he needs to do on that right as far as getting permission I mean we're not gonna if it's a group of 10 or more they have to take their garbage with them okay I'll tell them that said make sure it's nine kids
they can't throw any stones if it's going to annoy anybody yes and it has that includes skipping uh he's got to do it on a tusk too make sure it's six degrees above uh above the horizon horizon okay no I would say I think go for that
i don't think there's anything we He asked if there was anything to fill out or anything i said I don't think there's any form or anything like that okay no all right um Brendan I was just going to say on the splash pad maybe this is your
plan but if we could have it on the agenda next time so that we can like align on a timeline and what needs to be done to get to the place of like when and how we solicit public opinion um because again I feel like if it's too early you're not really soliciting
opinion on anything so I think we just want to iron that out and maybe set some goals around the timing yes so I just don't want to lose it even though we're sending stuff in the background yeah that's going to stay on the agenda i'm not sure if subcommittee old business is the best way to list that
but that'll in some way shape or form be on the agenda for for our next month's meeting all right um anything else before we move on to public comment all right we are going to move to public comment i'm going to open public comment for members of the public
it's for three minutes i'm actually gonna take off my TC hat for a minute and uh do some public comment um ready please go ahead uh so uh I have three kids youngest of which
um is Ronan she is a rising senior at PHS she was a camp counselor last year she has the misfortune or fortune of being born in August 1st so she was 16 last year so she served as a a camp counselor at Cranberry Record Camp as a
volunteer counselor um absolutely loved it was fantastic in that role and I think um she got a lot out of it and the kids got a lot out of it um and she wants to do it again this year and she has other opportunities but she wants to do it again this year but because she turned 17 in August she would would
again be an unpaid volunteer counselor um so my question for the for the rec committee is if they would consider changing that policy so the policy right now is basically if if you're not 17 by by the the date of the uh first day of
camp you don't get paid um but she'll be 17 during camp at at at the end of the second session so my question for the rec committee is if they would consider changing that policy um to one in which if someone turns 17 during the second
year of of their serving as a counselor they could be paid um and you know my reasons for this are obviously a little bit self-interested but I also want my daughter to to be able to get this really valuable experience where she um can return to camp um engage with these
children again and the children will get a lot out of it because she was very she had a great time last year and again the kids had a great time as well working with her and she's an experienced seasoned counselor at this point i feel like it would be a detriment to the to the rec committee to lose her and to
lose other kids who are going through the same unfortunate circumstances um just because of a a certain calendar date falling where it does um so I would ask the the committee to consider changing the policy to one in which um
if someone is turning 17 during that camp session that they be actually paid for their their time there so I know that my wife has reached out um to to to Kelly and to you Brenda i don't know if she sent you an email yeah she did um so
that's something that I I would like to be uh I would like to have considered by by the committee and um obviously time is running out so if that's something you guys could take in consideration and make an action on in the next uh meeting or two
obviously before the um camp session starts in June can I ask who makes that regulation we I did and here's there's a long history a very long history of of
our uh staff in the summertime okay and it and it goes back to quite honestly members of the commission who wanted their kids to be at camp but they had aged out of camp so we started
a CIT program and then um because our policy has always been 17 is is the age that we determine that we would a counselor can be alone with a group with
other with maybe another CIT or something like that would be a able to be alone with a group of kids and not have to have an adult supervisor with them the uh state board of health
identifies 16 year olds but it says you have to have an adult with that 16year-old in a group um at all times so you know to avoid any issues that we we
could possibly think of and it was myself and and the camp director that came up with this but so it started we did 14 and 15 year olds were CITs 16 year olds were junior counselors and we paid them a very minimal fee
below um uh the minimum wage and then when you were 17 you became a full counselor and got paid the whatever the you know at least the minimum wage
uh someone a a newspaper reporter um was doing surveys of salaries and wages of summer camp staff and asked us for our information and then questioned
it in the state New Jersey state law you're allowed to pay seasonal employees less than the minimum wage um and and that was our um justification but we changed our policy at that time um so
everybody now is e you're either paid or unpaid you're either a CIT or you're a counselor right um and again we kept that 17 year old um because of just you know that's we if somebody asks us our
all of our counselors are at least 17 years old um you know so that's that's the way we've always done it and you know that's why I came up with that it's always worked there's always
a one or two kids that can fall into that trap i mean I would fall into that trap if it was my age group two of my kids would would be the same way uh because they had summer birthdays um but that's how we've done it we've we
extended the age of the um campers to try to cover that age group so now if you're going into ninth grade you can still go to camp because there were ninth graders that weren't
yet 16 to be a CIT so um that so we we tried to make every accommodation but we we can't cover everybody ken would um individuals who have a birthday in the middle of the
summer that are working do they then start getting paid when they become 17 no it has to start from the summer beginning yeah because as soon as the soon as the program starts that's really what we consider as their as their age that's how we we've always done it and
the August date Ken August 1st is the date that is the cut off so to speak no it would be whatever the first day of camp would be it could be 17 day after okay then they don't qualify right okay right um I think this may go on the
agenda for next month i you mentioned an email i don't believe I mean I I very apologetic if apparently I which I shouldn't say if Yeah okay um so why why are we waiting a
month this individual needs to make a decision about what she's going to do for the summer we can't we can't take action on something that wasn't agenda as new business especially after we've held public comment unfortunately um yeah i mean we u unfortunately we
can't also I don't know that we I I'm not sure whether or not we need to or if it's something that the recck department and its director can do alone i just I just don't know that um but also I'm not ready to make a decision i This is new to me which apparently shouldn't have
been because there's an email I didn't read and um I just need to see a little bit more information and and think it over a little bit more but um I think this is going to go on the agenda next month and I don't want to see it on the agenda after that because I would like to have it done instead of one way or
another i don't want to draw it out um anyone else on this one well can can you since it's mostly your decision you made that decision can you think about it during the month or Well I I'll be
honest with you i'll go to the administrator and I I'm going to ask her you know we've we've made exceptions in the past and gotten burned by them so I highly doubt that we're gonna that she'll want to make an exception because
that's our policy is our policy and it should be you know adhere to because like I said we started this junior junior uh counselor uh policy and it came back to bite us is could you do it based on
there being a secondyear counselor and a rising senior right like could you do the they have x and y criteria yeah if I understand it's it's not a question of could you can't you it's a question of will you or do we want to make changes
constantly and and right when do when do we want to make it's a question of when and if and how not question of is it possible I think is where we're at um and that's a never ending question is a good counselor um you know
maybe it has something to do with merit from previous counseling or something recommendations from the year before or something that You know part of part of the thing is too you can't we can't legally ask for birth dates on applications we could just we could ask
age okay you but you can't ask for a birthday until you hire somebody and then you get their hired paperwork in um that's another you know caveat to this whole thing but um you know if we did
let me let me just let me check with administration and um I can come prepared for uh the next meeting for discussion all right um let's come up go ahead i was going to say I like the idea
of having a policy that's pretty black and white so that it's very clear and I think also if the parks and wreck has a lot of people that are coming that are good candidates it makes maybe less likely to change but if it really is a situation where we're losing
good candidates then maybe making a policy that encompasses a little bit more of the individuals that we don't want to lose right but still have it pretty clear would be really helpful to consider is she a senior she'll be a senior she's
a rising senior going into her senior well she's super young then wow i have a daughter at September so I know what you're talking about i mean to your point or this is about retaining good talent like you know at least till
they're 18 right perhaps the other thought and just tableabling it for consideration we can always come back to it next week is um a scheme where you incentivize them to come back non-monetarily but perhaps tickets to you know Six Flags or
something like that where it is still it is still a way well no no no it's not it's it's a different form of compensation right like you are not you're not doing anything to pay them uh during the course of their time but nonetheless it is an incentive for them to come back
something for them to look at as remuneration for having been on the job and you could have some criteria like you know they've been recommended to come back and and be considered for this right so there's also an incentive to do a good job while they're at it mhm so something of that sort that may be an
alternate sort of creative way of looking at it as opposed to can we pay or not and then have it having to change the ordinance so idea on the table okay all right we um yeah this is why I I want to take a beat on this and even I
mean even if we could um which we can't I I don't think now is the right time to uh decide this I guess um and we can anyway so that's that's where we're at but I I would like to learn more of this and come back to it next month at our
meeting um but for now I am going to Are there any other members of the public interested in commenting there's nobody else here um thank you for your public comment i'm going to close public comment and um there is nothing else on
our agenda uh if there are is a first and a second for a motion to adjurnn that would be I'd like to move that we adjourn the meeting sally is there a second can I ask a question do we have a public schedule of events like what what's planned for spring and summer do
we have what a public schedule of events for you guys like what you guys are I don't know if we have a schedule but the events are are out there i'm not sure if they're all like in a central schedule yeah um but that motion has been made and seconded we do not need to vote on an adjournment so we are now
adjourned thank you everyone thank you thank you yes