good evening We'd like to call to order the township committee meeting for Monday March the 10th If you're willing and able please rise for the pledge of allegiance To the flag of the United States of America and to the for it
stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all Okay we're going to move on to open public meetings notice pursuant to the open public meetings act Notice of this meeting was sent to Cranberry Press Trenton Times Home News Tribune on
January 3rd 2025 posted on the township's website and sent to those who requested a copy of this notice And now roll call Mr Christopher here Miss Eladawi here Dr Rogers here Mr Scott here and mayor here Thank you
Okay Okay Yep Tonight we're here to adopt the 2025 municipal budget Um I'm pleased to tell everyone that there will not be a tax increase again this year Um we've been
very fortunate We've been able to keep our budget pretty stable There were some increases this year due to contractual things However um the budget is 14,96,480 Um our revenues have gone up slightly
Our assessed value has gone up slightly And with that being said we'll be using 2,220,000 worth of surplus Um we continue to be able to replenish the surplus that we're using Um and we're watching that closely to make sure that
we don't have to increase taxes in the near future Um but that's pretty much where we are this year Um we worked hard on it my departments worked hard on it and we had a good budget meeting where we um you know went over everything and
so no tax municipal tax increase this year [Music] Yeah I just want to thank everybody obviously the township committee for their commitment of making a really smooth uh budget meeting but really for all the hard work that you and your team
did Denise and I think we're really really proud that it's almost a 10-year history with the lack of increases in municipal In fact one year we actually went down Um so I just think it's absolutely commendable and another reason that makes this town terrific to
live in and be a resident in So thank you You're welcome So now we open up the hearing If there's any questions from the public you can come up and ask questions If not we'll ask for uh adoption of the resolution for the budget
I'd like to move Second Okay we're going to move on to roll call for that vote Mr Christopher yes Mrs Obadawi yes Dr Rogers yes Mr Scott yes Mayor Coner yes Unanimous Thank you Okay Do we have any changes or additions to
our agenda this evening No Okay Hearing none Um anyone like to go first on their updates Oh sorry Township committee meeting Uh can someone move to approve the minutes from February 24th 2025 I'll
move the February 24th minutes Second Oh sorry I move to roll call Mr Christopher yes Mr Elidawi yes Dr Rogers yes Mr Scott yes Mayor Can Yes Unanimous Thank you
Okay Uh members of our committee who would like to go first and fill us in on what you've been liazisoning this I don't mind going I don't have too much to report Uh the DRC meeting was cancelled and uh we had one planning board meeting which you were actually in attendance with me at It was almost
three hours uh Amazon um sent an application to they're trying to reconfigure their parking lot and they took a lot of um so the purpose of their application is they're trying to create a designated spot to park empty trailers and they took a lot of feedback from the
board and decided they would come back again uh in a at a future date Um and there was at the time a retirement cake I guess also for Robin Tulu She'll be moving on It's um and and a welcome to our new uh secretary as well And the
chairperson announced that she will be also moving out of town So a little bit of change there Um and that's it The library board is this week That's the only board that I have that met Thank you man Um I'm just really curious Uh does
Amazon have any place that they're suggesting that when trucks have to wait for their slot You know how trucks seem to be on the sides of the road Do they have any suggest I mean besides you know storing their trucks you know storing the people
that are driving the trucks that have to get into a slot at a particular time That's not something they that wasn't at all part of the discussion I mean the discussion was really solely around where they could park their empty containers And I think that there was a lot of effort on the planning board side to try to make sure that these vehicles
are not unnecessarily on the public you know the public road or in public spaces Did you have any other Yeah I think what they were describing is within their complex within their gates they were having a congestion issue with uh loading and unloading and then having
idle people have a spot when they had empty trailers So the purpose is to reconfigure within their space in their campus But your your specific question was not addressed was not brought up Yeah Because I mean it was one of the issues that we have is idling trucks on the side of the road that are waiting
like that get here early so that they can get into their slots at a particular time Wouldn't that be a really great thing for them to actually have a spot where they could wait on their campus The request was for them to do a traffic study to make sure there wasn't a negative or or if there was a to
identify a positive impact on that I will tell you that your question it was alluded to in public comment that they were like well could this potentially get those trucks off the road or is this um or will it in fact do the opposite and now you've freed up more trucks to
come in and it will create and amplify that problem So that's what the push back was was well the request which is go do a traffic study on what this means for you and see if there's positive or negative impact Yeah And I think that they have rescheduled and they took the
date if I'm not mistaken Next month it's the following month Yeah So they'll be in May Uh they'll be back on the planning board's agenda Yeah I it would be great if there was a clear to the planning board Hey this is something I don't know how maybe I don't know And we also it was also recommended that they
go to the DRC also if they wanted those meeting that question could be asked Hopefully they'll the diligence will be done and ready by May the 1 their witness uh kind of rolled her eyes to that May 1st date So hopefully they can get it done If not probably June And and uh who was present there was an
architect that was really solely tasked with just looking at that parking spot for those containers not the issue that you're asking She's not even from here She's from Arizona right And did they confirm the the traffic study They did not confirm anything They that suggestion was made Yeah Yeah It's
conditional that when they come back there was no motion or vote on it They they will be doing it I mean Yeah they should be Yes Yeah they should be for May Yeah that's what it's and again it's the project is within their campus right
So that's not they're not doing a traffic study on the external roads They're doing a traffic study on the flow of their traffic which you can draw some conclusions on how that's going to impact the border the public roads
Thank you Certainly I'll go next because I haven't had any of my committees or meeting This is my week This is This is my week So I have nothing to report Okay Um so um the next environmental
commission meeting is next Monday It's the third Monday but um I have a couple things that have come through um that I would like to just ask Um the Girl Scouts kiosk um they came they presented um all their information has been vetted
um you know by the EC by uh Denise by me you know so all that information is ready to go into the kiosk in Cranberry Brook Preserve Um they're asking for one minor um update Um and they have the money to pay for it Um they would like to put a sign just like the one on Main
Street uh Kona's Eagle Scout They'd like to put that sign to kind of advertise and show people that it's a Monarch Way station Just want to I don't think it's necessary for them to come in So I just kind of wanted a verbal um you know that we've updated we're okay with it It's on
our public property you know um the public's property So are we good with that Oh while we were waiting to start I read your email and saw the pictures Everything was great Okay great Thank you And sorry for last minute I'm having as I said little issues with that Great
Um I got another email um since um uh through and this one has to do with community solar and um uh I think it's a good idea There's some there's been some tweaks to community solar um and their billing It's made it's it's a lot more
streamlined Um one of the things um that um that uh um Solar Landscaping um is uh has reached out to me and asked if we could do a um an outreach to the community Um
just reminding them about community solar what what its purpose is and some of the updates and um there's there's space available more space available for uh residents to sign up uh they did a a quick um outreach for one community uh
Monroe and they got 300 more people signed up So um and another community got 90 more that was a Westfield So um uh so um I could work on a little bit a blurb maybe not this u mayor's um eblast
but another the following one Uh just a reminder that people can sign up and it's a good thing I know I'm saving money and I know other people that are saving money by signing up for community solar Quick question on that Um the original intent I think the priority for
the uh to take advantage of solar was supposed to go toward affordable housing Yes it is Did they have any reports on like how that's breaking down I think it was like an 8020 rule Might have been a 9010 Like what was left over on those fields You could then go on a waiting
list which I took advantage of until I had the billing problem which now I may look at it again No because it's now built by one person not a third party right Which is terrific It is terrific Yeah So I may look at that again because obviously who doesn't want to save but they have Yeah They have not I didn't
ask Okay Yeah Could we find that out Because I think it's it's also good to know that a program that you're signing up for that there's people that really need it and are benefiting ahead of you Yeah You know what I mean Like again who doesn't I think there are a lot more spots I think and I think you can reach out to other um my understanding is
other projects that are not just in our area so there are a lot more spots Okay So I don't think that like an affordable you would be taking a spot of an affordable housing person Okay So but I'll double check Okay Yeah Thank you Yeah Um that's a really great question And then we just need to update the um
current information that I think is where is it located Uh DPW I think it's on DP Yeah it's on the website So we'll have to find where it is on the website and just update it Um so I'll do that too
Um the other thing is um uh what was the third thing Oh I tried to um I have to uh for the community energy um grant that we that we got uh I
was on a meeting and uh have to reapply through a different portal and I tried to reapply and uh I now waiting for a password to get into that portal So uh it's supposed to be done by this Friday
and I don't have the information to get into the portal So I am still trying to get that money to our into our township Uh just wanted to update you on that Um Sha Tree April 3rd meeting is cancelled
um and rescheduled for April 10th 10:00 a.m I went to the Z zoning board meeting and um it was basically a preliminary and final site plan for roof over patio patio renovations and canopy at the Chinmai mission and that was approved
The one thing that I thought was really great um is it brought up um uh an issue with nuisance flooding on Cranberry Neck and um one of the neighbors brought up that if um the runoff could be put in a
different um different location that maybe that might alleviate some of the or not increase the nuisance flooding that happens on Cranberry Neck Road But it's a county road and that makes complications and they have to reach out to the county etc But I thought that was great that we're all working
together That's it Questions Any questions for Barber Okay Mr Scott Good evening Um I didn't have any meetings but I have some updates from parks Um first I see that Well she was
there Mrs Kenny is here from Helen Cody Um and they're going to uh hopefully present and discuss um installation of a sculpture to go in Memorial Park um dedicated to to Helen Um so hopefully they'll go over the details of that Um I
know if you guys recall I mentioned um that parks is looking into uh the possibility for 2026 of installing a splash pad um possibly in Village Park as a part of the the groundwork for that they they need to have the the town
engineer um figure out what the possibility of getting water into the park would be and that's going to cost us some money So um instead of me asking tonight if you guys are all interested in in a splash pad the next parks meeting is coming up
next week Um so I will go back to them and ask them to put together a presentation for for the TC so that you guys can take a look at this idea of a splash pad and express your interests or your disinterests Um I don't think it'd be fair for me to to represent them when
they have most of the details and the their ideas percolating Um so hopefully we can get them on an agenda in the next uh three or four meetings Um and um chest
tables have have risen their head again Um apparently there are chest tables being put in place by the school within the interior courtyard So the the parks committee um is asking us again to reconsider placement of the chest tables
into Heritage Park as they feel it would be redundant to have um chest tables in the inner courtyard of the school and then just across the parking lot um by the library So um you know I put it to you guys what your opinions are on chess tables Um to either be in
the original location of Heritage Park or to be along the walkway by the library Um parks has expressed their uh displeasure with that So I put it back to y'all for discussion this evening Yeah Parks
meeting is coming up and they are asking again and again No if the school is putting them in the inner So I checked with Jen Dysler about the chess tables at the school She said
um I know the gametop table was an option but not sure if that is even the one the school will go with They have not made a decision about Okay And even if they did if it's in the inner court correct It would only be publicly accessible Correct It would only be for the students Yeah This is public as well
as students So right Yeah I don't think I don't think one has to do with the other Okay And they haven't made a decision either way No Okay Okay Yeah So I think we voted on it and I think we
should uh I think it's something that we all agreed on of its location and and the finances make sense So that's one I'm just stating my I'm just stating my
opinion Like I'm just I'm just going to go back to them and and and tell them what you guys You're asking for feedback Yeah Correct Sorry You're asking for feedback correct Any feedback No I mean we we this I
think that this issue was decided upon I don't um I don't know that it's appropriate for us to be reopening this again Um we're setting precedents for reopening all other decisions that we make and so I don't know that this is um um this is giving me anxiety
Thank you Not having been here for the previous decision I would defer to the four of you who were here for for that decision Thanks Rob And I'll be glad to hear We don't certainly need to take meeting time now but somebody can fill me in on
all the gory details apparently in the uh location of said chest tables But I would I would certainly defer to what was ever decided The only thing I would add to that I agree I don't want to set precedent that we're second guessing any decision that we make but I think it's in everybody's
best interest to do a little bit of a post audit on this particular decision and and how it was done We've had some solid volunteers on the parks department provide some information and feedback to this committee and it shouldn't just be
ignored The only thing I would say is that we should review that and do some due diligence about that particular process and make sure that we don't we don't open ourselves up to have our our votes second guessed that we've done things the right way the first time and
that we have agreement on that So I would just say that that we we we do that But I agree setting precedent on revoting on something that we've already closed the book on is is room for anxiety and a dangerous precedent
Kind of what I thought but um I I to their credit I think they feel like that that process where we moved it from heritage to the library to them was they were kind of blindsided by it And that's that's what they expressed to me um which I I I tend to agree with I felt
like it was done hastily and it wasn't really clear why it was happening Library didn't seem particularly interested one way or the other Um and and here we are So it's just there's just a little bit of acrimony Um and I would I would say again like that's what makes our liaison work so important
right Yeah That's what makes us being good liaison and diligent liaison and consistent liaison to these committees is because we really are the end of the day we're the representative that sits here and make sure that we are we are representing exactly what happened in
those meetings So again I would say that that's just another lesson here is that we make sure that we make sure our tees are crossed and our eyes are dotted and that they agree when we come here to represent them that we're doing it in the way that they expected Yeah That
they're that no one's blindsided by that Right I think it's that that's a fair point and uh I think you know we switched liaison because this process spread out over two years and so we switched leaison and feelings
were changed and I think that uh the parks committee as it stands now feels like they weren't listened to but I think I think it's reasonable I mean we did vote on it so it's not any my personal opinion you guys know it on liaison work is that especially on some
formidable committees should be consistent Yeah And that if we do tend to switch things up yeartoear I think it's great for our own experience to experience different boards and commissions but some of these if they have big projects that are going on or things that are meaningful to them consistent liaison work it could
actually benefit everybody but that's my opinion on it and I don't expect everyone to share that Okay Um Matt uh yes I am questioning uh something different Uh the the water slide thing Um how about they just send
us information through an email first I mean do they need to do a presentation Well it seems like what Denise is saying is that we need to make a decision soon right Oh the use of Well what I said was let's not use resources if the TC is not
on board with this type of project right So how about sending It's not that we're saying yes or no to it right off the bat because they don't even have a cost yet No they don't But to even have the engineer spend $10,000 to look into something you know what I'm saying And study it and and survey it and come up
with the information is a waste if it's not something that the TC thinks is a good idea I mean the pro I mean I would assume that if they send us an email they like hopefully they've learned from past projects that they've done that they
need to you know make a plan tell us how much it costs have you know like have the background and we if we could read it maybe we could before they even have to come in we could kind of get a feel for whether that's something we could get behind Yeah I think that's fine but
they're not going to have all those answers yet like they're not they're not going to have any cost But this is like okay it's the same way with um the uh the playground Pictures were sent in of other like playgrounds So this is the type of splash pad we're looking at This is the size you know approximately So
just maybe basic scope of project Yeah You know who what when where why kind of thing Start off I mean they basic they they do have a PowerPoint but again it is sort of it's all over the place because it could be could be a small project could be a larger project as far
as cost just getting water to it is going to be an issue right so that in itself do they have a desire to to make a presentation I believe so yeah I mean if they sent us a pre-eread and then did a presentation right I
think we we'd certainly listen to them I I think yes Yeah I just look I the last thing I want to do is have a host of volunteers come in here and we just pummel them with questions which is exactly what's going to happen because they don't have answers to those questions So I would say at the next
parks meeting pummel them with questions that you believe that we'll ask them And if most of them are we don't know we don't know we don't know it's probably premature and they need to do more homework again with a a local town another one that's got a splash pad maybe talk to their parks and wreck to
see if they could get an estimated cost for that size Like again I think they do a little research in an existing splash pad They they have done that Okay I saw that at the last meeting Um it is a bit of a catch 22 as far as cost because water is going to be an expensive part
of it So if you're going to spend $10,000 um to have the engineer look at it you know that might be water down the drain right Um so to speak Uh but pun intended Pun intended Um so are we in agreement
then that they can they can send let's start like No here we are examining how we do things like let's start with information I'm I'm better with information and I can mole over it versus someone just kind of Okay fair enough
Yeah I'll uh I'll let them know at the next meeting and they can put something together and there's not a lot there's not we're not under time constraint here So they can put something together that is a little more cogent and Okay Um I'll have them send it to you guys Okay
Cool Thank you Anything else That's it That's a lot Okay Um I don't really have any updates I've been out of town for the better part of I don't know a month it feels
like Um but uh was able as I'm on a address attend the planning um board meeting for a couple hours the other night and I'm happy to report that this room is significantly cooler than it was during our planning board meeting I think we had windows we had windows open
at that point Uh it was really hot in here So it's it's still warm in here but it's significantly cooler Um so I don't really have I don't have many um updates um that I have I know the craft fair is coming up this weekend They're still looking for volunteers I'll be screaming
and nailing about that uh in my mayor's update And there's uh community service hours for kids that are available also for the craft fair So um it's a little bit kooky on the uh sign up genius to find it but there's opportunity for high school students for hours there So
besides attending um it'd be great if anyone had some time to volunteer um this weekend But that's all I have And then we have no subcommittees but we do have a department head that we're going to hear from the Ela Cody Foundation
It was under department head but we didn't know where to put it Parks and wreck That conclusion Yes Yes please Make sure you turn on the one side that stage I don't know if it's the right or Okay Yeah If you've got one that'd be great I was going to pop it up on my
laptop Take one if you have enough I can just record If not then I can I don't Do you guys have mine online Okay Yeah I can take my notes right on the paper Thank you very much What am I doing Hit one of the buttons to that it stays on right Just hit one
There you go Um well thank you for having me come tonight U my name is Noel Kenny Um I think I'm know almost everybody Um and we um Linda and I Linda Morris from um
the foundation we had gone to the um parks department um first who then you know was excited about the project and then I'm coming here tonight to present it to you Um this is
um all started from I believe everybody knows the Honey Cody Foundation and what it means to Cranberry and um the 5K race on cranberry day And we are looking for um a way to honor Helen and the
foundation in the town Um and as you can see the org origami crane is the symbol um of the foundation And so we found an artist um who makes these sculptures
that you can see So that's the um idea behind it placing it um in Heritage Park where there was already the the wind sculptures um at the start and finish of the 5K Um and
um you know we'd we'd love to know your thoughts that if you know what you would want to know from us Again this is a um this would be there this is our project so there's
no expense only if um when I've gone to the artist um there's a lot of different ways of the foundation Um so some towns I guess who have used this artist before they recommend the township wants to be the person who who installs the concrete
pad or whatever it is but we also have um so Jerry Hansen has somebody who's looking into doing that for us which we can we can also do It's it's up to you know whatever decisions are made
Yeah I think um we thank you for the presentation but uh we all just got it today I think So I think some of us are still kind of digesting the idea of it Um I think a a couple of things and they're going to be uncomfortable to discuss and I'm going to apologize in on
on my own behalf but we're we just discussed setting precedent right And questioning the way that we that we voted on something right And make sure that we do that we have precedent in place on how we um have had people memorialized in our township whether
it's through the um uh their service in the military uh or through um our bench program which I'm sure that you're familiar with around town And so those have been the standard ways that we have um had people you know through their own
cost you know put something in me in memory of anybody this would be unprecedented to do something for an individual regardless of their um tragic passing Right Right So that's why it's a little bit sensitive and I'm and I'm
making sure I don't come off insensitive No no no not at all And I and just to clarify too right the foundation in town um I mean the the scholar program we've had the amount of community service that's been given back to the town from
the foundation Yeah instead of thinking of it as Helen Cody right I mean we we are coming at it from the foundational foundational perspective right Yeah Um and that's how it would be presented on you know the plaque with it Um but also
the gift just from the artist if you know it's a it's a world famous artist So yeah Yeah Yeah So I'm just I'm just like um contemplating what I don't know Again everybody else share their thoughts and let me know But that's one of the thoughts that ran through my head
But putting it in perspective of the foundation and this is just something else that you're providing as a piece of art to the community is and thought about that kind of side of it So that's why we're having the discussion And just to make sure everybody knows too you know I've been the president of the Cranberry Arts Council for many many
many years So my combination of the of a board member for the Lakota Cody Foundation also combines with the with the Arts Council and that's why I've been tasked too I mean this was a big part of my idea um as the art piece of it Yeah And I was um just there were two
sketches in here that we reviewed One had like a almost like a pedestal base that built up and the other was the rock Yeah And was it one or the other or you had made a decision or these are just ideas Yeah these are ideas that are sent from the um artist um of possibilities
that have been done in other places also Um no nothing Nothing at all Um really just if you were going to do it this way some one of those suggestions was because a lot of parks will have the uh landscaping So if you
didn't want the sculpture you know getting hit every time or something like that people will put it up higher or you know kids not climbing on it or whatever which was the first thought that went through my head was climbing children like Yeah like they couldn't resist it
if they wanted to Yeah Yeah I'll um It is stainless steel though It's not It's not and sharp Yeah Yeah Just of of note there's um there's a uh semif flooding issue like there there's a water runoff issue in Heritage
Park What is the what is the condition of the water runoff in that general area I don't know in the general area but if they're going to put it on a concrete pad up higher it probably won't affect
the sculpture If that's the um if the if that's the the choice that's made Yeah Yeah I think the water runoff probably if I'm not mistaken only riding bikes and that is on the west uh part of the trail Yeah It affects the it affects the the
memorial the the fountain area It affects that walking trail Yeah Yeah Yeah outside Does it affect the current sculptures at all What sculptures The wind I mean they they've got to be put in concrete Oh the wind sculptures I don't know what they're put in It's just
like a stick in the ground No it's it's got to be concrete on the bottom It has to be It has to like a fence post Yeah And and they're at very far ends of the uh the trail Yeah I've never paid attention to to what's up with those I just know that some of the benches the
the feet of the benches sit in water Um I know when we did the update to the parks um on the master plan two years ago with the planner that was one thing that was discussed also And and when the parks came to us to talk about redoing
the the trail the engineer had sort of given his input about the the way the park is planned is not exactly the maybe the most correct because of the way the water runs off right The mo there wasn't anything you could do about it was basically the takeaway right It's always going to be that way Yeah Yeah Okay Yeah
Okay I just wanted to ask that question as an open space person um you know you know I I knew Helen and I I think it's a fabulous foundation is going on in the you know 5K and I don't want to come off
as my view of open space is I really when do we stop adding things to our open spaces and I'm always that's my position like if we add one more then maybe one more and one more I it's not an offense
I understand to you and the work that you've done Yeah And honoring her and you know I know there's a bench to Helen in the preserve We helped put that up um in Cranary Brook preserve I just I my do when does it just be open space
that we can look at the trees and and and you know sculptures are up and how many more and as you know we we do have the bench process We do have ways you know that the foundation could you know memorialize the foundation even you
know um and this is it's beautiful and I'm sure I've been to Santa Fe I probably seen the sky Yeah Um and but I just don't know when we you know we Yeah stop adding to our open space and it just be open space Passive open space
That is passive but when is it just open space And I I understand that I I guess I just have a different I love art and nature together Um so that's my just you know my thought I love walking at the grounds of
sculpture I love when you know I that's it's just a different Yeah Yeah Yeah I think it's a question of complimenting open space versus impeding open space and and finding that balance I think it's probably what we're talking about right And I understand completely you
know when do we stop But I also think because this is it is a space for our all public you know and and and that's what we're why you're coming to us because we're supposed to represent that right voice And exactly I mean as an artist myself I mean I know so much
about um what towns go through when a mural wants to go up or you know whatever it is But but I also feel like um those are your decisions to make each time on a case- by case basis and that foundation might be different than
somebody else coming to you right This is a this is a solid foundation that has done a lot for cranberry So that's my also um you have the ability to say no next time also right
I I I love this I think it's beautiful I think um I mean I understand where Barbara's coming from but I think the idea of putting art in it's a man-made park not a complete nature preserve So the balance of of beautiful art and
nature uh is is very uh to me it's it's aesthetically very pleasing Um so I I really like this sculpture and I think it's a good spot for it So I'd be in favor of it and I agree that the foundation has done so much for the town Um you know it's such a draw for the
town for the race and for everything else they've done all the educational support they've done So um I I don't see any real drawbacks Um and I to to Mayor Coner's point about memorializing individuals I think it's a Helen is obviously associated with it Um and we
do honor her legacy but I think it's more about recognizing the contributions that the foundation has done for the town and they continue to do So um I I I would be in favor of it Um one of the other things too is they were talk we were talking about on the
plaque that would have a QR code that goes directly to the foundation's site to look for You know I think the biggest part of our foundation now are is the scholar program um which we have usually about 10 um students that we select from
a very very competitive pool um who you know they start to finish do community service project high school students um and those works like if you can go on foundation site and see what these students have done and given back it's
and it's remarkable So that's a big piece of it to me I think some of the minor details like the runoff or the foundation or the actual foundation not the foundation Um we can probably work through some of those issues and and alleviate some of them I think netn net
I'd probably be uh more in support than not I you know it my brain you know I speak to think usually like as opposed to think to speak but it's you know when you just framed it that way it's almost
feels like a gift to the community is what you're I was actually think I think a better way to kind of frame it to Barbara's point there there's a big difference and just for the public with the pedestal kind of presence versus
what you just talked about is this balance of nature and art Yeah With the stone I would just say that the the pedestal one feels a little bit and I don't think that that's Yeah at all Well again if we're going to vote I think we're going to have to be very specific
on what's going to be installed and and that's what like we need to flush out because I just I feel like the rock and that stone is more of a I don't know It's a more cohesive um embrace of the two things that you talked about which
is nature and art together which is what the wind sculptures were also supposed to do is give you that feeling of moving with the wind and nature right That's what the intent of them So with that in mind I I'm more I'm I like the the rock We just
received this you know I I had problems opening it I have a hard time looking at this you know and I I had problems with my email So I just got it So I'm not comfortable like making a vote right now I'm just letting you know Okay So Sure
Yeah Okay But it's still like we have the opportunity to ask questions So if we're going to think about the project moving forward I'm expressing my opinion that I'm I am more agreeable to that design with the rock than that that pedestal approach So that's my opinion
on the design but that's where you not you need to take into consideration that runoff and Yeah Yeah Well any any no matter what it is I think there's uh the one page even with the rock the rock has to be um there's a certain depth that will
have has to be on the concrete It has to be on the concrete There were a couple options that at least if concrete's there it's covered Yeah Right And if this is a consultative discussion and we don't have to clearly vote on it at this moment but I think as far as
consultative I would say yeah put the concrete pad there if it's structurally necessary and cover it make it disappear Yeah Right Because I think I like the last shoe for any of those who are looking much better than anything with the exposed concrete or the giant
pedestal Yes And so that would have like a the base to like Yeah Correct It would be under mulch or some sort of greenery Yep which further you know brings it into symbiosis Yeah exactly
And so so the the the um how structurally sound is that if we do have children that are climbing this So the the we've talked to the artists about that It is I mean you know you we can do whatever we want to say please don't climb on it but I mean even like kids
are going to climb on anything They're on top of the the um I see them on top of the playground equipment all the time Um but to that point it it's it's steel It's not um and
I I don't know what what it would be like we don't foresee that structure breaking off at a point in any way and a child tumbling down with it I mean a child can certainly climb up it and fall off it That's one that's that's gravity but the structure itself is strong enough to withstand the climbing of a
child Yeah it it's it is steel Okay Yeah Um I mean I can certainly whatever we need from the artist I'm sure they would if we needed to find out Yeah I know that when they did the sculptures the wind sculptures
they actually ordered it as it was and the pole was short enough that the children could reach it and they started playing with it and and you know getting into it kind of thing And so immediately the the day it was installed the next day it was removed and then they ordered a much taller pole so that nobody could
touch it after that So it's just we have to childp proof everything right So yeah Yeah So if we could just Yeah get that answer that'd be great Yeah Um I think it depends on if if you're going to do the boulder and you can choose the size but um it is in here
Yeah It's not razor sharp right No Keep them off it No And they they are placed in a lot of public spaces already Yeah Um so I we're not the first one to have this It's more you know there's I
think there are several of these Um there's like traveling exhibits that he they do in like arboritums or places like that So they're definitely um like when we go to them we can I can also find out exactly where this has
been We can we could talk to them say was there any problems Um you know maybe another park or town or exhibit or something But um wait did you get the dimensions Did you see that the dimensions Did you like
84 Yeah And is there a reason why now the foundation is interested in doing this as opposed to earlier No I think we just um I think I I don't really want you know I
also don't want to put words into Linda's mouth from you know but I think as um we all get older too I think the idea of this gift to the town and um something that lasts as permanence his
permanence um for some for the foundation that means so much to them to everyone and um the the crane being the symbol too of of
of hope Um I think it's just it's that I don't think there's any real reason why now just the foundation has done so well too Um from the races from what we give to support the kids doing these projects
we're able to really support them We've now we have scholarships Um we have many grants that people have applied to um for all different ages Um we the SK's pantry has now expanded for toys and it
it's it's incredible So I think the foundation has they we really have a secure um future Yeah And and so this seems like a logical way for for some some permanence
like you're saying and a gift It is a gift and and we talk about it as a gift to the town So I I still sit a little bit with uh what mayor can said a little earlier with regards to just sort of setting precedents I know that within the last 5 years we also had another gentleman who lost a child that wanted
something also put up um and we directed them towards the current um memorial projects that the town does um does have sort of criteria for and it may be something that we start discussing if um if if we do open this up like is there
another set of criteria that we create um that's certainly bigger than anything I could do this evening um yeah completely completely agree with that Yeah And again receiving it today you know obviously I just respect anyone who's had some challenges opening it and had the proper time to do it Just I want
to make sure that we're taking advantage of you being here and kind enough to put this together that we ask any questions that we have that are top of mind right now Yeah Um and I do think that we're we just we just need to evaluate going forward Yeah Exactly well said that if
we do this that you know will there will be other requests that come and how are we going to evaluate that what criteria do we put in place because it's unprecedented so would it be different if I was coming to you from the arts council fair question yeah fair question so if I
came to you from the arts council you want to come back no but and I and I don't say that as a No no I just think it's snippy I don't want it to come across that that it's truly a question of how we how just so I better
understand and I can go back to the foundation also It's again foundation aside I think what what we're trying to so I'm trying to say and to help me with my words here but it's if someone wanted to just put in an installment and said we'll pay for I'll pay for it I want to
honor somebody I have the money to do it I'll pay for the maintenance then that's what will come before us again and we need to prepare ourselves of how we would evaluate that and because this is unprecedented because we could also make a foundation and then they could also
well we we we've had we've had a request on the parks when I was a liazison by a coach who wanted to install something in the park and we didn't have criteria for that either and they they too wanted to gift it so it it definitely creates another layer that we have to u to
process so that we are um you making it sort of available to everybody it in the right criteria But again the the project is beautiful An organization is something that is the core of very much the core of Cranberry and Cranberry Day
Um who installed the like how did the art that's there now be installed That was through the parks the parks commission It was a project Yeah Okay It was a project by the parks commission members Yeah Yeah All right And then one question that we
had for you is that we've been we work with Allen and Stoultz um insurance um that you know we have our own liability insurance We have but is there any thing that you would want to know from us for an insurance piece That was going to be
one of my questions on the side as we process this was okay kids climb things kids fall It's made of stainless steel cranes Stainless steel cranes are sharp what what what do we accept as the township being that it's on township land And that's obviously something we
need to look at So it will probably most likely be a follow-up question but I don't I'm not a lawyer but the insurance thing went through my brain We we as the the Arts Council or the The Arts Council has nothing to do with it's I I'm just saying the foundation this is the Helen
Cody foundation So it's it's the Helen Cody Foundation that that has this insurance Yes Okay Yes What do they need Denise It's township property So our insurance covers anything that's on township property even if it's gifted to us They have additional insurance That just makes it
better The issue is safety right So insurance is going to say "No you're not allowed to put it there We have other sculptures but how comfortable is the township committee with the safety of it?" And that's something you guys will have to Is that something like the
insurance company will weigh in on that No No you know if something happens then the township's responsible for it Correct Yeah Correct Yeah As I was saying I think that's just another side of this that we haven't had the time to flush through So I'm just also wondering
about the open space like in in Heritage Park and what we're supposed to be putting in that park Well we just passive recreation This is passive and there are other sculptures Okay So Okay now is our time to ask any questions
Does anyone have any other questions What are what's our next steps here We gonna I think we need to regroup and make sure that we've kind of we talk about our criteria Um and again that's unfortunate for you but again it's unprecedented We just haven't I'm not
going anywhere Yeah Yeah I think we need to talk about it and figure out like how we make this decision how it would impact future decisions and those things But it's uh like I said it's complicated to talk about things So in that manner when you're talking about a foundation
that has given so much to this town So I just want to make sure it's not taken away that uh we are being ungrateful We just need the time to process it I definitely had some questions around liability insurance I did read that note in there that you had your own I still think we just need to flush that out because your Reddit is it's a safety
that I have no idea how to predict that not that anyone can So right And that was sort of the answer from it's uh Brett Brent River I know most people know them from Alan and Sultan Heightstown who does our insurance but that was sort of his take on it too is
that the township was going to have their own exactly what you said Um and that we do have um the foundation also I mean we run the 5K we run the everything with kids So we have um Yeah
And um start to finish this I'm sorry I forgot to ask that Yeah That like so um if it's approved and we do that at some point you commission the work Um yes And but it's not long It's a month or two Oh
okay All right Just trying to just figure out what we have to work with here And you guys have the the funds to Yeah Y Okay Do we need an engineer the engineer to do anything to place it or anything No but we're not going to
install it They're going to have to do it Yeah And that's Yeah we assumed either way Um yeah they just that's what the artist suggested was to go to the township first because sometimes you want it done your way and and Jerry will
look at it and say that's okay spot or not But Yeah And it's going to be worth it for us to walk out there and just make sure that to your point next rainfall uh just to make sure that we're in the clear there that it's not an area of
like you know heavy pooling Okay Yeah Um can we give them a time frame Um we'll have to agree on a time frame So what did what does everybody think is a reasonable time frame to evaluate this Certainly not a day No next
meeting after that Next meeting is the 24th of February I mean I uh I'm sorry March Um I mean if we if we can look at the first meeting in April does that give us enough time to physically go out there
experience be okay Okay Is that okay with you Does that give you more time No but we we we still have some discussions to go through That's what I'm asking The discussions we have to go through which we we're documenting as followup Is a month uh enough time to have those
discussions I'm I'm okay with that I'm okay with that month seems like plenty Okay that is the April the first meeting in April Okay second week of April Okay right now to
give you a date that' be the 14th 14th Um so are would I am I coming today Yeah Yeah In lie of that we can communicate back and forth as our questions come up so that on the 14th we'll be better prepared Okay And
we'll get those answers So but on the April meeting would you would you want me to come here I guess I'm saying No I don't think so I think we can work to get it and we'll just put it on our agenda if you want to Sure But not necessary Okay great Okay Well thank you
Thank you Thanks What Who Chief Oh hi Hi Hi Hi We do have a a department head then We do We do Our chief of police was hiding in the corner Undercover
Undercover Good evening everyone Good evening Sorry Good evening everyone Good evening I am going to go over the monthly report if that's okay Yes please Um address any questions you may have I know it's a loaded
statement but um so uh our stats are self-explanatory Uh page one On page two uh I am trying to get not more creative but more transparent Um it's easy to say
here's the overtime hours Um but why So they change every year I explained that last month a little bit specifically uh due to the lack of manpower Um but I just think there's a need to break it down So without reinventing the wheel um
I picked the top three categories obviously shift coverage in its entirety Uh shift extension could be anything Um and then three which is very important training school court Um I apologize on page three Um that special duty tour
should have a number three in front of it So I just want to bring that to your attention because of the um 59 hours uh nope I apologize Of the uh month 168 hours of overtime Um 70 of
it was for shift coverage Um or I apologize 85 was for shift coverage 70 was for shift extension And then number three 47 and a half hours of that was for um training uh of programs that we run
Uh I'm trying to put storm details in there I know we haven't thankfully had any Knock on wood Let's not let's not start a blizzard in March because that's happened before too Um but again it's just me trying to be more transparent so that you understand It's just not a number Hey here it is And then you have
no no idea where it's coming from Um I do want to bring special attention to uh that court number I I I truly feel that 31 hours is a lot for court but these are um literally just two midnight officers that were subpoenaed for uh
grand jury for criminal cases for important cases And guess what judges don't do like you guys are doing right now They don't meet at night So it's now I you know they're on their days off They're on call They get a you're coming you're going They're subpoenaed by law
they're ordered to go So that's a lot of the stuff that you guys aren't privy to You don't know it And it's not like it's being hidden It just was never explained before And I just personally think that that's important If you don't want it believe me I'll make this a one-page report I'm okay with that too Um but
when they go to court do they is it a whole shift It's not a whole shift They're meant to they're scheduled to be there Usually it's at 8 8:00 in New Brunswick So they got to get there Um we get them there They could sit They try to get police officers right away if
it's a grand jury but this was a trial Um and it was waiting six hours Okay it's a journ till tomorrow Go there again Okay you're going on in four hours six hours later okay it's tomorrow And it's just it doesn't stop And um then
compounds the shift coverage Not only that but then you know if it's their days off they're getting paid overtime right We don't do right So I mean that I just that number just jumped out on me in one month I'm like you know what We're going to start reporting that So it's a lot It doesn't happen all the
time Thankfully a lot of the traffic and the normal every day There was a question posed uh today Why are there number stops and then the summones don't match those number stops Under New Jersey state law title 39 which are tickets um whether it's a DUI or a parking ticket it's all officer
discretion So um if summons can be issued for any and all of those violations they could also be given a warning for any and all those violations So that's the you know the part that should have been explained a little bit better So I apologize for that Um but it it definitely is officer discretion So
those numbers aren't going to match up um remotely closely in my opinion because you know you could have six 700 stops and you know you're not going to have 600 6 700 tickets He could could have more if if if they called us but I one of your guys tailed me the whole way here man I was nervous I was nervous
tonight Five on the nose Yeah I mean our our guys have been unbelievably uh active Um and then also again you'll see I just want to bring your attention to the NAS The NAS are just things that I'm trying to bring to the foreground this year that were not uh reported last year
or any years thereafter Um then that was page three And then uh page four I apologize And then you know um briefly we had a really bad uh crash head-on crash yesterday The Nixels went out Um I have empowered every sergeant in the
agency along with the two lieutenants to have access to that system I don't want to abuse that system They're neighboring towns and I don't want to mention them West Windsor um that Nixel dogs that are lost and then dogs that are found So I know this is tape recorder I love you guys Um but you know I don't want to do
that because what happens is and I'm guilty of it West Windsor Okay Stop looking right You stop looking So right Um so I think that the relationship we have with our neighboring towns is invaluable Um I know that we and we
talked about this and you guys already voted on it and the need for uh increased officers Um unfortunately yesterday there were two officers working right I had to steal two from South Brunswick just to close a road that was closed for five hours because we have to then reconstruct this crash
as if they were fatals Um there were four occupants Everybody went to the hospital including two dogs that aren't counted in that also went to a hospital So these are things that you know I'm not crying wolf two officers working and I have to have two officers at least
investigate a crash and then worry about first aid worry about closing a road worry about traffic that doesn't stop for anything This was a head-on crash Three vehicles involved Um you know uh thankfully we we believe was on die road Thankfully we believe everybody's going
to survive Um um you know serious life-threatening injuries Prosecutor's office was notified Our protocol was followed to to a tea And then that neighboring town which happened to be South Brunswick sent two officers Plains sent one Um and then we requested
additional help to laser the scene Um they're all things that were just not self-sufficient yet And um but you know we're a smaller agency and we own that and the ground's always shifting and it's always moving and and we're moving in the right direction Um South Brunswick had a um armed armed student
in the schools and they everybody and anybody was there and Cranberry's on the south side and North Brunswick was on the north side So Little Cranberry can help out the big ones as well So uh it's that kind of um respect and relationship we need in order to do our job because we can't do it alone There's no way
There's no way So just I wanted to bring that to your your attention that you know this will be in next month's report The amount of hours um the shift extension the three officers I had to call in just to deal with it The officer that went to the hospital I mean all that overtime and all that stuff is
stuff you guys don't see And I just I just think it's important to be as transparent as I can because our officers have always worked It's just now you you're starting you'll see a little bit more of how they're working Well I also think that it helps solidify when we're making a decision on and during budget time on what it is or the
needs that you have This level of transparency and detail helps us make those decisions a little bit easier or smooth or smoother Yeah And and I appreciate that And I'm I'm never one to cry wolf I can tell you that since we've been tracking the you know the calls and the the town's just getting bigger right
Yeah uh you know I don't have to tell you guys that you're all in this position because you you know it's coming and you know it's here you know and that's not even what is yet to come So we'll deal with that and hopefully we're all retired by the time that happens But um you know I'm here We're
not going nowhere Uh transition is going smoothly and we're plugging along every day Chief I'll second Lisa The transparency is huge Really appreciate it I'm sure we all agree with that Yeah Um and I will second the great partnership with the neighbors and
neighbors It just a great illustration yesterday of that Yep Absolutely When um when you have that type of mutual aid we don't pay for that right We don't They actually pay overtime for because that township is wellrun well funded but that
chief and our wonderful clerk can attest does not pay overtime and I got a phone call and had a 20-minute conversation and thanked him up and down and he said "You're 0 for two." He goes "I'm keeping tally." So I was 0 for three but we made up a little bit on that other one So um
it was playful banter but you know I just thanked him uh and uh appreciated everything he did for us Uh you know there's just no way until we get the resources here to do it And even when we did it still wasn't enough That road is so big Yeah We closed it from 130 all
the way to Scott's Corner I mean and you figure everything in between because we're shooting that as if someone is going to either die or will die Um and that's how we have to treat it based on our protocol So it was closed for the better part of almost 5 hours So just one little uh just one
little thing If anybody has any questions if not I know you're busy and it's late and it's hot in here Denise is probably happy but that's about the only one Very good detail Thank you Yeah thank you You're very you're very very welcome Oh one last thing Getting a better
understanding And I don't want to steal the Municipal Alliance's thunder Cops lost However we had our first annual and um I was already invited next year to uh partake again So I'm I'm going to let everyone know
here because I was Well I I refed it So I I came as a deputy chief of South Brunswick for me and I had one of my state trooper buddies We all went our our own ref league um association NJSIA Um but um uh I had one of my sergeants say "Chief were we really supposed to
win?" I said "Next year we're winning." So because those little kids are bragging up and down So on your report or is basketball training going to be a training Definitely I have to budget for uniforms Like I said I don't know if
I'm going to ref or manage All of a sudden there's a hoop up in their parking lot It's actually not a bad idea We should think about that It's good exercise Taking down middle schoolers It's ambitious It's very nice I'm sorry I missed it I was out of town It's okay Next next year I mean you know uh it was
a great event I'm telling you I've refed there before um in my association as a uh middle school high school basketball referee and um I have never seen a gym that literally every seat was taken and then every floor to the to the to the
baseline It I've never seen anything like it in my life for I mean that gym is not small It's a middle school There wasn't a fundraiser right It was a fundraiser for the American Heart Association the school did all the fundraising and um you know my
understanding was successful Yeah it was very successful So baseball season so batter up buddy Yeah that's why I draw the line I played my whole life I'm not My daughter's an up My daughter's an up She can Oh it's hot Yeah Um but yeah I
just think that was very successful So um I'm in chief training from the 17th It's mandatory for any new chief till the 21st So I don't know that I'll be able to be at the municipal alliance but I will send a lieutenant if I can't make it Thank you Yep Thank you Thank you Thank you everyone You have a wonderful
night Thanks Okay All right Do we have any followup items Uh I was supposed to find out about doggy bags but I'll Oh yeah How'd you do on that Not very good No Okay I was out of the country
Forgot about your poop patrol Uh I'll I'll bring up the parks to see if they have anything Yeah I'm gonna see if I can use this tonight Okay Um all right Uh boards and commissions We are we're working this list down uh a little bit but we need some environmental commission uh love
here We've got uh three openings an environmental commission a full membership the first and the second uh alternative uh alternate We can make a goal for the full member Like I think that's the most critical Um so again we can spread the word Municipal Alliance
there's a second uh alternate and we still have a full membership on Shade Tree but we are chipping away Okay Um we'll move on to ordinances Uh can I get a motion to Oh wait Yeah First first reading Sorry Okay So we're going
to uh for first reading will be Cranberry Township Ordinance number 03-24-04 which is a bond ordinance providing for the various capital improvements of the township of Cranberry in the county of Middle Sex appropriating $2,150,950 Therefore funding
$17,548 and authorizing the issuance of 2,4342 bonds or notes of the township to finance part of the cost thereof And this is introduction We need a motion for introduction Second So moved I get a second I'll
second Thank you We're going to move on to a roll call for the introduction which will be Mr Christopher Yes Miss Dawi Yes Dr Rogers yes Mr Scott yes Mayor Coner yes Thank you That's unanimous introduced And second reading
is March 24th Okay We have no second readings tonight So we'll move on to consent resolutions Can I have a motion to move A through F resolutions I will
move consent resolutions A through F We got a second I'll second Thank you Thank you We'll do roll call Mr Christopher yes Mrs Elbidawi yes Dr Rogers yes Mr Scott yes Mayor Kir yes
Unanimous Thank you Okay we'll move on to public comment Um we're going to try to pull some language Uh Barbara I think you made a great request last time to kind of set the stage for what public comment is It truly is our time to listen to any of
the concerns uh from the public It is not a Q&A session so please don't take our lack of response as being rude but it is really truly your time for us to listen to you Is there any member of the public that would like to speak Mark
and sorry as a reminder thank you Barbara Uh three minutes and your time will start when the first word after you say your name After you say your name Pretty good Yeah you are Good evening everyone I guess I have one question that was brought on by comments
earlier and then read my formal letter Um for volunteer groups in town is there a mechanism that we can present comments and have a discussion as we just did with the uh foundation Would that be better instead of just doing a
comment You mean from public comment From public In other words I'm going to present something from the historical side I'd like to have a discussion as you do with the Hela Cody Foundation So do we ask them to be on the agenda as a Yeah you would formally request to be on the agenda and then we would add it
under um department or you know subcommittee or department or presentation or a work session or a work session and then be provided a um a presentation ahead of time so that the TC has ample time to review it So that would be that same process that we went
through just now I think that would be more beneficial than me reading a letter and handing it out and totally agree Okay good So we'll do that in the future Um so this is a letter that I will hand out to everyone for for record Uh again representing the historical society U
I'm also a little disappointed we only had one member of committee at our presentation yesterday uh I think we would be more than happy to present it to uh the committee and the public at large to understand uh the
last 50 years of preservation uh past uh current and future So be happy to do that again uh should you wish to hear it Uh in October of last year we appeared uh before Township Committee to present our concerns about
the potential demolition or demolition by request of the historic house located on Plansboro Road commonly called the Dancer House The Circa 1860 farmhouse is located on a parcel known as block 25
lot 1201 Our letter of October 28th is attached for your reference uh especially since there is one new township committee member Also a photo of the building is attached Since that time we have not had
any response to our request or if any action has been taken We again ask for your support to take action to continue to preserve the historic building A formal request is appreciated and based upon what we said if you'd like to have
this as a work session in the future we could do that So thank you If you want to ask questions I'm here to ask them or answer them But so for your reference or the poppies and this is a photo of the house
Well thank you Thank you Are there other members of the public that would like to make a comment Hi You have to turn it on till it turns red and stays red You let go the other side then There you go Just state your
name Hi my name is Kathy Janney J A N I I've lived in Cranberry for 40 years now and I very much appreciate the historical nature of our town been involved with the Cranberry Historical and Preservation Society for a number of
years and currently a trustee I've participated in different groups in the town political and otherwise And this is a great town and uh thank you for all your work and I appreciate that you'll focus on what
Mark has talked about with this letter It's an important issue and I think you have an obligation to look at this So thank you for listening to me Another question I have relating to what you said If the public time is a time for a
statement what format can be used by the public to ask a question and to have it be answered by you Yeah you can communicate email or through email a letter a personal
conversation Those are all ways that you can reach out in this format Uh and we allow public comment but we are we're not it's not a Q&A It's not a back and forth If it's a if we're able to answer a question in its simplicity we will try
to do that but it's we just like to set the uh the expectation that it's not a Q&A Okay Thank you for that response Um and um do you think that you might consider at any time that there could be
value in answering questions more thoroughly than what you just explained because it's a time when the public could hear the response and hear the interaction I think that creates a very valuable scenario and it also may
increase public interest in what you're doing because there used to be I think more people who would come to the township meetings and I'm sure you have your own reasons for making that decision but maybe you would reconsider it because I think it has a lot of value
Yeah there are many times that we have a topic that gets raised here and if you look and consistently look at our agendas when they're published you'll see working sessions that from time to time will there is more of a um I would
say uh there's time for public comment during those working sessions and you'll get a lot of your questions probably answered during that time Okay So if you see something that you're interested or a topic like that that comes up in a working session I would stay and encourage it I wouldn't encourage many
more people to be in this room right now due to the temperature but we were always happy to have more members of the public attend our meetings in person and be engaged in whatever the issue is So thank you for even being here this even I appreciate that And um when I was on
the school board for nine years and president for six years and on the planning board for a number of years we did answer questions more thoroughly And I guess I'm just a bit surprised at this current um way methodology So I would appreciate just
kind of assessing it Thank you so much You're welcome Thank you for being here Thank you Okay Anyone else from the public Okay seeing none we'll close this portion of our meeting which is the public comment portion and then we are
going to move into a uh closed session Um now um no action is going to be taken after the closed session So the members of the public don't need to hang around after that Um but we do need a motion to go into our closed session I'll move
into closed Can I get a second Second Thank you And then we move on to roll call for that ordinate I mean that resolution Uh Mr Christopher Yes Madawi Yes Dr Rogers Yes Mr Scott Yes Mayor
Caner Yes Okay Please hold until we have everything microphones