Okay. Good evening, Cranberry. I'd like to call the township committee meeting for Monday, November 24th into session. Stand for the pledge of >> allegiance to the flag of the United States of
America and to the stands nationy and justice for all. Okay, we'll move on to the open public meetings notice pursuant to the open public's meetings act. Notice of this meeting was sent to cranberry press times and news trainee on January 3rd,
2025. Post on the township's website and sent to those who requested a copy of this notice. Move on to roll call. Mr. Christopher >> here. >> Mrs. Oadali >> here. >> Dr. Rogers >> here. >> Mr. Scott is absent. And Mayor can >> here. >> Thank you. Do we have any additions or changes to
our agenda? I feel very loud. >> They they fixed the >> at least the reverb. >> Yes, we got that fixed volume. >> They're really working. >> Yeah. >> Um Okay. Do we have any agenda additions or changes? >> No. >> Okay. All right. Um can I get a motion
to approve the regular meeting minutes from November the 10th? >> Thank you. Move on to roll call. Mr. Christopher, >> yes. >> Mrs. Elbidawi, >> yes. >> Dr. Rogers, Mr. Scott is absent. Mayor Kieran, >> yes. >> Thank you.
>> They've all been kind of busy lately. Does anybody want to kick us off for their updates? >> EC meeting last Monday. You know, they're busy doing some really good work. Um I really appreciate the volunteers and commissions and their
time and expertise that they put in. Uh I listen to them and I hear what they have to say and we work really well together. Um the EC meeting uh they talked about the school garden is coming along really well. Is that is it true? There's an automatic
direct >> yet. Yes. Thank you for being there. Um uh there's a resolution that we're gonna I'm gonna send it around. Um you know already take a look at it to see what what we need to do prior to putting out this
resolution. It's um it's prepared to support an adopt a catch basin. Um so it's part of our storm water uh permitting too and it supports that an education piece. Um, and basically it will use the maps that were created for
phase one of our storm water permitting um, and the store firm. And, um, it's going to be an interactive map and residents can go click on a train, an inlet by your house, name it, and take care of it. And there'll be directions on how to uh, you know, manage it,
maintain it, keep the etern. We looked into it. It was costly. It was thousands of dollars, but they're going to hopefully maintain this interactive map. It's going to be at the environmental um commission website and >> this sounds great upgra.
>> Yeah. So, I you know, saving money and doing good. what can be passed. Um anyway, um so the other thing that's really cool is we got that grant for $10,000 for the community energy plan and um the environmental commission, the
EC will be requesting quotes for consultants. What this will do is there is I have printed it out. There's a giant list of things that we can do as a community to save energy. Um I don't know where that list went to. Um,
oh, here it is. There's this giant list that um we're going to try and choose. The environmental commission is going to try and choose a bunch such as things we kind of already do of things that are great wish list like improve municipal fleet efficiency, install public EV
charging infrastructures. So, if the public is on board with that, you know, because there'll be a public portion to it, you know, this way there's some momentum behind it that maybe the municipality will act on. So um so anyway so that's some of the things that
they're doing. Uh the other thing any questions on the PC? Okay. Um the other thing um that we uh we met we Tom Decker Denise Iman and Tom Decker's associate.
>> I mean Irene thank I knew it was black. Um and um we discussed um with the wa um the watershed institute's approach of the phase two of our storm water uh permit which deals with um watershed
improvement plans and um whether we're going to look at it on a regional with 10 other um towns or we're going to just uh go alone. um there are benefits to the regional approach because as you know water has no boundaries and uh we're dealing with storm water um in
this permit. So we're going to find out what the pros and cons and whether other towns are going to sign on and it would be better and and how much it would cost depending on the number of towns and how much service each town has etc. So
that's something that um December 11th we're going to speak um as a group again um you know with the watershed institute initiating this effort um to see how many towns are interested and to see how you know and to conclude our discussion
whether we're interested in that approach to it. So um anyway so that's on the horizon and that's for next year and that's for next year's budgeting trying to get ahead of all of that stuff. Um and then the other thing is went to the municipal league this uh
year. I find it always so wonderfully invigorating to find out what other towns are doing and to get ideas on what we are doing well and what we can do better. So um you know we go to all these educational things and I tended to
go more to like you know energy and watershed stuff but I did go to impacts and tariffs and I did like get out of my comfort zone. So it was really um it's always so educational and it's great to talk to other municipal officials. So
that's and what I like about the league um is that we can kind of divide and conquer and we can kind of cover a lot of ground and more people that were there. So I saw actually saw a couple residents that serve on boards and commissions that
were there as well. So that was really great to see that they took time out of their busy schedules to go too, which is great. Anything else? busy couple of weeks. I I did also as Barbara mentioned attended that the regional study the Milstone
River through the watershed institute and I just want to share that that is not necessarily an initiative that we sought. They came out to seek us to say we need help in this endeavor and these are the towns that sit on this Milstone River and we would like you all to be
part of this process and the goal is really to reduce pollutants in water and I think that should be a goal for everyone. So Barbara is leading the charge and we will see where all of this settles and I don't mean to put a pressure on you. just mean that it's it's nice that you are going to be that really connected person with the worship
institute and our share of course um November 16th we had a wonderful wonderful food donation drive by the local food
pantry church pantry I say this to share that I love the journey of this particular food drive so much that I documented it for myself. I took pictures of the, you know, the inception of this process, the people that helped
along the way, the people that enhanced that message of we need who we need it now. And I documented it enough that I said, I think I'm going to share this with a journalist. And so I did. And the journalist was very excited
about the story and just really, it was just a feelood story. And so I was so happy on distribution day. I see the journalist, you know, for an interview for an interview. And so I'm looking forward to seeing that. I'm assuming you
might hear before I do. Yeah. He caught me at a moment with a cathod in my mouth. So it started out that way and then he actually got me to like shed a couple of tears because just describing what was put into it and the way the community came together got me really
choked up. But it was great. Thank you. >> Yeah, for sure. For sure. I think that um in the spirit of really illuminating cranberry for the amazing work that it does. Um I'm really happy that our senior subcommittee had a meeting on
17th and um and it was nice shows this nice wall wall color and um you know this the goal for this this new senior the old senior center but giving it a new look is um will be a nice exciting
new maybe game room for the seniors and we're looking forward forward to exchanging out some of that furniture as well. So it's nice to be building right um the league of municipalities that my team that I did attend
like barber you know you kind of sort of pick and choose where you want to go meet different people expose yourself to different conversations I think for me I think was it four or five years that I've been going this is probably the best attended it was so well attended that parking was insane and finding
spaces to stand in some of the rooms was insane so it's A lot of people are out and having the new governor made it all the more exciting for people. On November 21st, I just wanted to share with you all that I attended a celebration of life for a lovely young
lady named Sonia Das and Sonia Das used to work. She was a staff member at Mercer County Executive Dan Benson's office and Dan Benson was previously something very very close to. And so I met Sonia Das very many times and I will
I will she was very young. She pass um that's it for my report and I did have a question though. I um when we were at Lee, we had a chance to talk to Tom Pepper and he had made a recommendation with regards to
the spok architect and he responded back that um they were working on it. Um I know there's out there I believe um Tom is not sure that they have completed it for
his sketch but here we spoke >> the microphone. Thank you. ever. Sorry, I apologize, but last I spoke to you all here, um it it was to bring it back to you as well
as um the historical uh commission committee. So, I'm getting information from um our architect with some options just like a share. So, it's not necessarily going through town. Um he gave the approval. We have to follow what the
statute is and what the code is. And we have promise for the integrity of um the integrity of credibility and just making sure that it's something aesthetically pleasing. Um but all of the like legalities of it have been met.
Um so it'll come through it'll come through me and I'll be bringing it to um and I think I was reached out in regards to that. So I would bring it to Rob to through our connection with the liazison as well as to the environment not
environment. It's a historical committee um or back here but just a couple options of um of what it could look like but it's got to have the ball that's running up. there's going to be shrubbery. Um part of it is cool of having the green color and then the
ability to put some um covering around it that's a little more um decorative to be more appealing that my architect is working. But I'm apologizing understand I was
bringing it to you guys. is not going to >> well it's going through Tom only in the fact that our construction official isn't issuing certain permits or for certain things without Tom saying okay so I think that's how Tom got back into it
yeah and I think that's that's what's happening and so Tom said here's a sketch I gave I'm not sure that they adhere to the sketch yet so you can give them a permit to do the piping to the hot box or whatever you're wireing to
the hot box, but you're not going to get a seal or until everything is done for the sketch. Um, and yes, the screening part you're going to work with Rob and tell him what you suggest how it should be done graphically or whatever painting
or whatever that's part of it. Right. Right. Right. Then you'll bring that back to R. But that's not the the whole part of it is the the whole look of it. And that'll all be to to what uh Tom wanted. There's going to be um
shrubberies on either side. That's really extensive. The flowers already concerned with how it was done with the island that's there and made a sketch as to extend the island. I honestly don't know if that was done or not. That
wouldn't be part of the finishes though. So that's to me something else. And maybe that's not we're not talking missing things because that would be part of what's happening right now and they wouldn't have been able to move forward if if it wasn't built. I'm just talking purely of the decorative part
and having the shrubbery at the end. >> Yeah, it sounds like a mom's question is not about the aesthetics. It was about the actual install, which it sounds like we should probably >> have a separate meeting because then we work with maybe Tom or somebody else to figure out what the actual install looks
like. He said he did not believe it was done, but again to my understanding because of the brought that that there's any holds up there. >> So I I'm guessing they're communicating the last I heard the construction
official was told not to issue any further until the water company came out there saying so that part happened. Um, yeah. >> Well, yeah. This has got to be another one.
>> He said he was working on it. question. >> So, I missed last week's meeting. We just chatted about the how Fox connected with Dr. Dizzler actually this morning. This afternoon um we talked about that from an aesthetic standpoint, not from
an install standpoint, but it sounds like we've got that as a takeaway. Um that was the 1119 meeting I was traveling for. Um on 1112 we the HPC had a meeting. Um it looks like they're
making progress on an amendment to the historic district, including um the the change in the buffer zone plus potentially identification of nonhistoric district properties to be identified. That ordinance is being
written currently. The they'll be applying for a CLG grant in 26, which didn't happen in 25. Um they're going to focus that around farm houses. Uh They had um something for us to talk
about and consider. They had an idea for 1274 South River Road about either now as it's being as it we're in the process of purchasing um either dealing with that um current property owner or
waiting until that changes hands to potentially offer that building as one of those dollar homes to potentially remove from the property um before uh demolition. um something that we can talk about
either here or at some point in the future. Um obviously that would be have to happen pretty quickly based on timing of the property development. Um some additional conversation around the hamlet and the certificate of
eligibility um for the railroad property 30. And what else? Some additional feedback on homeowner feedback and historic property descriptions on state and township
websites and making sure those align and some conversation about their relationship with the library going forward and potential programs that they can put together with the library to helpers who have historic homes.
And that was my only question. >> Yeah, agree. >> Great. I also uh attended the lead municipalities. I actually brought the program if anybody was interested in kind of cruising through it. So you can
get a kind of a feel for the variety of activities. It's my first year. I'm always traveling for work during this week and I haven't been able to go. So it's the first time I was able to attend it and I was really kind of blown away the the sheer size of it and the variety the program you go through. I myself
focused a lot on the affordable housing sessions that were held but I also took the time to go which I saw quite a few of them were around civility uh managing with humor how to how to deal with
social media how to deal with um consistent um like what they were deeming agitators and these were more at a higher level of government than than the municipal level of government but Um it was I guess a little bit concerning
um that there was that type of programming that that was deemed necessary at this at this event, but also how it's probably probably is necessary and that um that every town has to deal with these types of issues
at some level. Um so that was that was interesting committee, but I did bring it in case anyone from the public wanted to kind of just plug through it. But it's a really neat event. Um, I want to congratulate Princeton High School varsity women's volleyball team for winning their three pets. I was hoping I
mentioned it in a previous meeting and that I didn't curse them uh by saying they were going for a three pete like the Chiefs, but I didn't. They defeated Milbour and win their third consecutive state title. That team is just incredibly talented and I myself um my daughter was on the JB team, but it was
a thrilling uh season. It was um our deputy mayor mentioned the senior center. We got a fresh coat of paint on the walls of the stage and a ramp and I really wanted to thank um Aman along with Donna Whiteoff for just doing the research and doing the work and and
really helping out on it. It's just coming along nicely and we're in the process of working with uh on the AV equipment and the furniture and the amenities and activities now. So excited to see that kind of get picked up with some energy. uh Shadow Oaks, that project is on track. Um with impending
weather coming and the Thanksgiving holiday work is going to cease on that project until Mon the next Monday. And I wanted to thank the residents of Shadow Oaks, not just for their patience, but they're consistently reporting any issues, damages, concerns of the work being done. And I just am really happy
that that feedback is coming in. You know, we're not I'm not asking for it for no reason. And we've been, you know, very responsive. We're hoping that we get a daily work slashstreet schedule um that uh they're trying to communicate back to us. So, I'll send that out either in special communication or
through the mayor's update when we get it. And again, weather permitting, the project is expected to be completed by the end of November. Um today, um around like 4:30, the Hoboken 9 reached out to me. I don't know if anybody remembers who they were,
but they're the um historic baseball team uh that came and played uh for two years at Cranberry and it didn't happen this year, but they reached out and they've got a team from Philadelphia that wants to play uh the whole book in 9 here in Cranberry next September 26.
What I like about that is that it's not going to be boiling hot uh like the last two games were. Uh so I forwarded that to um uh Mr. Scott as well as the chair of parks and w for them to review it because they're finalizing their schedule. But I think it was just a
really nice editive event and it was kind of really up our alley cranberry. So I thought that was kind of cool. Um if anyone's not signed up for the township emails, please do because this is Cranberry's busy season and there's a lot going on. I feel like um every
single weekend there's multiple events going on and um uh so just make sure that you get those. But the annual tree lighting um will presented by the women's club cranberry is going to be um on the um 5th. Uh and then we've got the
78th annual cranberry lines uh club pancake breakfast. I do not know of the manura light uh lighting. The rabbi is um not got back to me yet. So I'll press him for a date uh to make sure that we don't miss that. But again, we've got the annual Christmas tea at the u museum
which I love. I've said it every year. every time I go there, I learn something new. Um, so it's always just a nice nice thing um that they do there. Um, so again, there's a whole list of things. We'll try to up uh we'll try to upload it. Um, but I also just want to reiterate that we do have another
distribution coming or Christmas distribution um for Steve's Pantry. And I actually called uh Loa Wilson today because I was in uh Fort Myers, Florida with my daughter for a baseball tournament this weekend and I couldn't figure out what was going on on this
road that we were on. But when I tell you hundreds and hundreds of cars that were feeding through all these side streets in Fort Myers and lining up, there had to be well over a thousand cars. It was like 15 blocks that were feeding into one road. And it finally hit me what they were feeding into. It
was a distribution center for food. So, I mean, just what we were able to do, they must have been feeding thousands of families down there and we fed, you know, over 500 here. So, we've got another month, uh, you know, to go in that coming up. So, if we're redundant
in that message, but also just thanking the community. Um, uh, so I just wanted to mention that, too. Um, I think that's uh all I all I've got. Any questions for me?
I think we need somebody to come up with another creative social media campaign that isn't that isn't eating cranberry sauce, but be doing something else in December to get a little momentum behind. That would be great. >> Yeah, you can sign up to light at least 150 luminaries and then bring a bring a
donation. >> Yeah, I don't have a date for that. I reached out to CBA to see if we can get a date for that because um as everybody may or may not remember, but the winds were too high last year and it got cancelled and that's one of my favorite days. It's just magic. >> Um and I just love how other people come
into the town to see it, which is which is cool. So, I will take that as a followup and get with uh CBA on the luminary and then we'll add it to whatever the next update is. Okay, with that, um, I'm all good.
Department head, I believe our chief of police is here. Good evening. >> You will turn on that microphone. >> As loud as you are, we still need that mic. >> Thank you. >> Good evening, everyone. Um, I'm going to
clarify real quick about Shadow Oaks. I was on I attempted three separate times today to get a hold of the contract. I did talk to our engineer for a good bit of time, expressed my concerns. Uh he listened to me, fired
off an email. Um just the only correction to what they said was they're definitely going into the first week of December. That's already scheduled only because after today, today's done. They're done. >> Yeah. >> December 1st is Monday. So they need at
least a week and you might want to plan for another just in case. you have a little bit of weather. Um I too like you I'm asking for a daily schedule and then next to it we'll put it on website which is being met for whatever reason personnel. I don't think it's anything
personal but they now understand capital >> they're still working on my ride here at 6 >> that was addressed also the five time they had an emergency. Yeah, >> it's just
it's nothing uh uncommon. Yeah, I didn't want to say that. Um and what I didn't want to say was we're going to go over um so October was a pretty busy month. Um the numbers are there for you to see
compared to last year. Yes, we're a couple officers shorter, though I know they're still uh very um in my opinion increasing. Um crashes I'm very thankful are down. Um serious motor vehicle crashes are down. Hate to say
that um but if you look at um calls for service in October, we're well over 3,000 where we were last year. So again, we're just we're not getting any less busy. Um,
as far as receiving something new, dispatching statistics, just give you an idea of what our dispatch center does. We do have a shared service with South to think that they, you know, had 53,000 calls for service between South.
So thought that was kind of important. Obviously the bulk of that was South Brunswick for five times our size. Um but radio transmissions just for Cranberry alone were in excess of 9500. Um as far as 911
calls just for cranberry over 1500. So you know calls are getting more frequent and uh severity is changing the landscape of everything that's going on. um over time self-explanatory um and we'll be more than happy to
discuss it with them to discuss it. the numbers are on par again the NAS unfortunately we didn't record it last year just wasn't available changing that if you do see a number off CNA by showing by this time next year we
know what it is we have something to compare to moving forward um techn numbers are you know I think next month they're going to be right towards the end of this day of the month. So, um you
know, our numbers are on par for last year. I do want to speak as as I talked about the tech. Um we've had some serious calls this year. They're not slowing down. There are still serious calls. Uh and to that end, we've
investigated death threats. As you know, two of them may um one of them we've exhausted I don't know how many months it's been. many many um from the FBI to anybody we can get a hold of. We've issued warrant
we've had warrants that were signed for judges subpoenas at nausea um and you know doing everything we needed to do. We were feeling really good. And then, you know, once the judge finally signs his name to a subpoena or warrant, then
it gets served to obviously the carriers where the calls were made from. And the carriers were like, "Yeah, sorry. We deleted everything from my It's almost logistically impossible. I don't want to say somebody needs to die before you get it ahead of time, but
it's almost logistically impossible to get something, >> you know, and they know that. And I think that's why they haven't time. So unfortunately the mayor was recipient of one of those unfortunate emails that I had sent to her to say we've exhausted
every time you know and as far as we stop you know any turn but unfortunately you know that is is done. It's not
statute of limitations will not go away just unless we complete some new information. There's not much there's nothing I want to put. >> No, I just want to say thank you to you and the lieutenant for everything you did around.
>> Absolutely. You know, I do thank you for coming in. I know it was hard. I know I heard your voice. It's not something that we take lightly. And honestly, in my now 27 years, I don't recall everything. We've got some, you know,
some bad crimes here. This was not definitely not the rule. Pray to God that doesn't carry into the near future. >> So, um, the police blog is there. I I sent it out. I will post it tomorrow. I will try to send it ahead of time. So
give everyone an option to take a look questioning prior to emails or text messages questionific you see the school assists here >> yeah I don't know
school. I I'm the description. I'm just curious. >> Yeah. Um well, all of our officers are trained. Um if you're talking about I think that um I might have to change the name of that school. Um it's a proactive
endeavor that we do um usually every morning and every afternoon. Um I like to have an officer on the grounds to do the best we can do. call by admitting if god forbid they're needed for any reason it's traffic whether it's complaint it's
you know apparently need help it's it's absolutely not what we're thinking you're right to think that I just think we have to rephrase that that's how it's in our CAD which is our automated system that tracks all our calls it literally lists it as school
assist um so it's not a investigation not none of Thanks. >> Yes. Is that just Cranberry? >> That's just Granberry Township. >> So that's 25,454. >> And that was just for October. We're in
November, December. That's not long. >> We're ahead. You can see we're ahead about 3,000 calls for service. I think last year we were just under 30,000 calls for service. I don't understand. >> That's a lot. I have
>> good. I hope it's getting a little easier to to navigate and to get to. I just think it's a learning curve like anything else. Once we do it a couple times where we'll get to it. You just have to keep saying all >> and then on the left hand side it says
monthly. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Follow it. >> I didn't have any public comment followups
um from the last diligently keep on track. I didn't have comment from last time. >> Um this is very exciting because we are down to alternates on our vacancies
which is uh exciting. They're all second alternates we are announcing. uh you know community effort environmental commission is a second alternate I zoning board second alternate and a municipal alliance the
second alternate that are currently open um before we go into our first reading um I just want to make sure and this is more for the public's benefit um that we um are introducing um the next ordinance and we're
introducing it only. Um, and then so there won't be any public comment. Well, that's in general in any ordinance. There's not public comment until the second reading. There is of course always public comment during this meeting at the end of our meeting. Always be on the schedule, but um the
process that we're going to go through is introducing this ordinance and then the second reading uh and we're vote to we're voting to introduce it this evening. That's the only vote that we're making, not to uh adopt it. the um next time the second reading will be at our
meeting on December 8th and that will be the time we will have a public hearing and we'll also that will be the time that the public can provide public comment specifically on this ordinance as well as regular scheduled public comment. So before we go into a motion
to introduce this ordinance, I wanted to give any TC member uh the opportunity to speak to this ordinance. Um and for anyone in the audience there's a copy of it um here on the the desk that there is no second reading tomorrow that's
available >> that'll be available tomorrow right after that. >> So I don't know if anybody wants to kind of discuss this ordinance or please >> thank you. I'll read it. >> So, the first reading zone is Cranberry
Township Ordinance number 11-25-14, which is an ordinance granting consent to the owner of the property located at block 23, lot 12.01 uh 147 Plainsboro Road to raise and reconstruct the farmhouse building located thereon upon such reasonable terms and conditions as the township committee may deem
advisable. Again, that second meeting will be December 8, 2025. >> Thanks. >> I try. Um anyway, as you can hear from the title, um you know, we've had um some time uh to and information given to
us, but after reviewing the information and receiving debate about 147 Plate to introduce this ordinance to uh demolish and reconstruct the circa 1860 bar house. It is counter to the HPC recommendations
to not let the description. The ordinance mentions terms and conditions that have not been determined yet. I appreciate you creating the opportunity for us to mention a little bit about
I think that for me the introduction of this particular application was so very I I think I would have preferred another additional meeting to have further discussions before we get to this point
where we're introducing but I do understand the time constraints and I do also understand that initiating this one the actual execution is triggered by certain resolutions being
that would be sort of the contingency plans that are in place if the state restrictions to remove I have felt uh and I'm being very honest with you I felt like you know child between divorce and marriage with regards to this particular
application mainly because we're talking about an organization the HPC who are very revered very respected very well you know and we're also talking about a resident who is looking to you know
become a resident in town and the property just isn'table at this point and I've had to weigh on myself what do we do and what we don't do and in doing something what is the effective in not doing What would be the
effect? Nothing stops an owner from doing nothing to that property. And this can continue to be kicked down the road for several more years. I am sad that the TC's before us decided that that's what
they wanted to do. And I don't appreciate that this is landing in our lap and I feel like it is landing in our lap and we are trying to catch up with history um on a project that we we really are
not so rel it's it's relatable and that it's home within our town but we are not related to it. They are people that have been in this for a far longer time and I wish that the previous TCS had taken the initiative as they were closer to the case. Um we are here because we need to
do something. Something needs to be done and in doing something it is not to disrespect the organ the HPC organization has members within it and it is also not to to disrespect the owner or to side with one or the other. It is really to say
what is in the best interest moving forward. And so I I have a very different process I guess to come to the same conclusion but um I I understand why we are passing this ordinance. I still do believe there
is going to be necessary discussion will be historical whatever that state organization which I believe our lawyer has said has to be consulted only if and when this step is taken forward. So I appreciate that you're able to discuss
this again discussion before because it's so much emotions are very >> yeah I appreciate the diligence that has been done by the HBC um and the property owner and I certainly can sympathize
with with both parts. It's a challenging spot. It's a challenging spot for a property that was owned by the township as some of this uh has gone on. Um I agree among with your comment that it's uh been foisted into
our lap, which is not great. Um but I do feel like we do need to make a decision and stretching this out for months and years on is is not a solution. So, um, yeah, it's unfortunate and we will, uh,
I'm I'm looking forward to the to the final working session in a couple of weeks. >> Public hearing, sorry. >> Yeah, I echo that same sentiment. I think like at some point like it's not
even a can anymore. Like the buck has to kind of like stop here. I feel like it has just been ignored long enough. And that includes again previous township committee members and they're going to have to answer those questions like of why they did it. It's not up for us to
do that. So I'm grateful that this TC is taking this on. Uh not thrilled it's on our lap uh especially in the year that we've had, but that's what we signed up to do. Um but we what we also signed up to do is make sure that we consider
everything, right? Which is why we're seeking counsel. um with the HPC and you know how things have changed but to do nothing at this point is just it's it would be consistent right and I just I don't think that
that's the right answer to it and this public hearing is an opportunity for us to work with HBC and really the hard work is if we lift this it's around those reasonable terms and conditions and that's where the effort needs to be
focused on between now and December 8th is what is reasonable on both sides that we need to consider and also while you're doing that is what's unreasonable. Right? So those are the things that we're going to have to weigh and um the
the the effort is not to um have somebody feel like they've they're not being heard um and that one opinion is more weighted than the other on either side. our our job is to, you know, kind of review the facts that we set for
them. And I'm also going to say that the terms and conditions if they're not met, what we have to pay take very pay very special attention to is what if what if something continues to not be done or it's not doesn't meet these the
consequences have to be able to be enforced whether they're punitive or or what action is going to be taken if if those conditions are not met. So that's where again we're going to need the help of our our lawyers or uh case studies on
where things have gone wrong in South and where people have been in the situation before. But it can't be loose. It has to be if we say that we're going to do this then they have to do what they say that we're going to do. Um so that that to me is that's the most
critical part of the work. And the good news is that you know we have some information that we have time to review before December 8th. We have time to have more dialogue. We have time to get, you know, have more, you know, more meetings and discussions if we need to.
But I feel like once and for all, it just needs to be it needs to be decided. It needs to be decided here in public where everybody can be heard. And there are like any other topic in Cranberry, there's emotion around it and there's stakeholders around it. And I want to
make sure that this process is is really kind of clear. So that's why I was trying to take the time to say we're we're introducing this. We're not voting on any conditions, any parameters, a yes or a no in terms of the actual deed restriction here this evening. We're
only introducing it so that we can get this process started and moving and to a conclusion. >> To your point, an inaction is an action in this. >> Yeah, it's And again, I can't speak to anybody why they did or didn't do anything. I can't speak to why, you know, the township auctioned the
property off knowing the condition of the house. Then I can't speak to why, you know, the state, you know, Heisman this back in 2004. I we can't we can only absorb that information, but I can't I can't get in anybody's brain about why they did or didn't do
anything. But >> agree, >> we just got to do something. >> So, >> my instructions are to keep it short. I you know that's why I had three seconds. But I don't think by passing this ordinance we're not doing nothing. We are listening to HBC who is supposed
to help us with consideration on what to do with the property. So um I I I take offense to that. Um and uh you know as I said the terms and conditions are not stated. Uh we don't even haven't even discussed what those terms and conditions can be. Therefore I don't
think the ordinance should be introduced today. That's all. >> In no way I didn't instruct anybody to keep it short and sweet. That's why I was opening up the floor so everybody could state their opinions and have their strategy around it that I didn't get that.
>> Okay. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, with that being said, um, and again just reiterating December 8th will be the second reading and that will be the time we'll have a public hearing and also public comments specifically about
this ordinance. So, if I could get a motion to um introduce ordinance number 112514. >> I'll move. >> Can I get a second?
Okay, we'll move on to roll call. Uh, Mr. Christopher, >> yes. >> Mrs. Elidawi, >> yes. >> Dr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Scott is absent. Mayor Caner, >> yes. >> That's three A's, one absent, and one N. >> We will move on to our We have two
second readings this evening. >> Yep. So the uh first ordinance that is on for second reading is Cranberry Township Ordinance number 11-25-12 accepting a conservation ement easement over sections of property designated as
block 1 lots 2 Q 3Q 8Q 10 and 10 Q on the Cranberry Township tax map. If we could have a motion. >> Motion. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Do you have a second?
>> A second. >> Then they could do discussion. >> They want to have a discussion in public. We also have public hearing. This is part for the public. These two are for public.
>> Any public comments? >> Seeing none. Any comments? >> Any TC comments before we go to roll call? Okay, then I'm going to move on to roll call for this ordinance. Mr. Christopher, >> yes. >> Mrs. Elbidawi, >> yes. >> Dr. Rogers, >> yes.
>> Mr. Scott is absent. Mayor Kiran, >> yes. That's uh for everyone absent. We're going to move on to our next, which is our second ordinance that is on this evening for public. Cranberry Township Ordinance number 11-25-13,
capital ordinance authorizing the acquisition of 1274 South River Road and associated closing cost for the affordable housing senior units by the Township of Cranberry in the county of Milsex, New Jersey, appropriating 2,510,000 from Cranberry Townships affordable housing trust fund to cover the cost
thereof. Motion A motion to introduce >> motion for adoption >> of adoption. >> It's okay. Thank you. It's okay. There's too many. It's all right. And we need a second. >> Is there any public comment on ordinance
112513? >> Okay. Then we'll move on to roll call. Mr. Christopher. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Eladawi. Yes. >> Dr. Rogers. Mr. Scott is absent here. Can you hear him? Yes. >> Again, that's unanimous. We're all present. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, we're going to move on to
consent resolutions A through C. Can I get a motion to approve or if anybody wants anything out? >> Okay, we'll move on to roll call for those resolutions. Be Mr. Christopher. >> Yes. Mrs. Eladawi, >> yes. >> Dr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Scott is absent, American.
>> Yes. >> Unanimous for members present. Thank you. >> We're gonna move on to general public comment. Um, just as a reminder, um, just come up, turn the microphone on so the light stays red. Um, and just sign
in with your name and address. We've got a three minute timer. And does anyone have any public comment? So, good evening, Jennifer, Twinbridge Road.
Um I'm here to discuss bring up a topic that um was brought up two months ago at the school board meeting regarding the school resource officer. I understand things take time
um but it's been well over two months without any movement or um having placed on an agenda yet. So, I'm just kind of curious with this. It's been a overwhelm. It the
community's been surveyed twice with 90% growth rating. I'm just going to >> Yeah, I can follow up. with you on it. >> Okay. And you're saying this was at a
school the school board meeting that you were at two months ago. >> Yeah. Okay. Just want to clarify. Is there any other public comment? Okay. Seeing not close public comment. Uh action items. I'm taking the luminaries
um for with CDA to get a date. I'll also get a date from and I will follow up on the couple comments that you just heard. >> Okay. >> Thank you.
How many of Dr. Der from the school as far as the hot box installation? >> Yeah, that's what I said. The public just Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Uh need a motion to go into a
closed session. Resolution 1125147. Resolution to close the meeting to the public with personal items. >> Second. >> Okay, we're going to move on to roll call. Mr. Christopher, >> yes.
>> Mrs. Eladawi, yes. Dr. Rogers, Mr. Scott is absent. Mary Kir, yes. It's 4 A. And just announce that there'll be no action taken after we come back in public portion. I have to do a close session when we get here. Okay,
let me stop all our stuff. And I turn off the