Okay. So every other Good morning. Good afternoon. I have a question about this but I don't know how far you are want the courtesy getting here. Thank you. Because I stopped to print out the
information that Ken >> We have an amended agenda. Correct. >> So I stop that. Um so >> we have not started the meeting yet. >> We haven't started meeting you. >> Thank you.
>> You were teasing me. So >> I was serious. I was waiting on you. >> Okay. So, Commissioner Lori can't adjourn the meeting because it has not begun. >> Right. >> All right. Thank you. We can always adjourn for you again. Um, with that, I'm going to go ahead. We're going to
open up special meeting. The date is November 18th, 2025. The time is approximately 1:36. Um, with that, um, Commissioner Moore, I ask you if you would please in our invocation. Stand if you are able.
Let's bow our heads. Dear heavenly father, once again, we want to thank you for your grace and mercy. We thank you for waking us up this morning to this brand new day, one we've never seen before and we won't see again. But we thank you for this is the day that you have made and we will rejoice. And we
thank you for allowing us to come together one more time. And we ask that you be within the best. Help us to do those things that are pleasing in your sight and be able to help those that are in need. And Father God, we ask that you be with us in this meeting, in this special meeting, and help us to do those
things that would be pleasing. We ask you be with us, help us all, and bless this city. Bless our state and our country, oh God. And we'll forever praise you and give you the highest praise. And all these blessings we do ask in thy son Jesus name. Amen.
>> Amen. >> Amen. >> Pledge of allegiance. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. >> Okay. Thank you. Madam clerk, if you please do a roll call. Yes, ma'am. Commissioner Cynthia Burton >> here. >> Commissioner Linda Moore >> here. >> Commissioner William Lorie >> here. Commissioner Lisa Kito
>> present. >> City Manager Derek Martin >> here. >> Finance Director Steve Conlin >> here. >> Mayor Meyers um present. Okay, with that we are going to go ahead
and get started. So, we are here today to get caught up. Thank you, Madame Clerk, for bringing us to this point. Um, we've had some changes in personnel and duties and um, we I know that that's kind of been some of the confusion
because we had an assistant clerk that was handling the minutes and then in her uh, departure. Some of that has been lost, some of it. Um, and so this just brings it up. And madam clerk, we thank you for that. Um, and I believe this is
using our new system, correct? A lot of it is part of Mayor, if I may address address the commission, my apologies. Um, yes, ma'am. I took it upon myself to rerun everything through the Sonic Clear minutes. Um, having done that, I noticed
that the Sonic Clear transcription. I had to um re-educate myself. Those minutes were ran through the system incorrectly. Therefore, that's why I have noticed that there's roll call and certain things missing. The minutes that I provided the commission were not proof
read. >> Okay. Okay. You just got those out to us. Okay. Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. So, well, I have to say that going through these and reading and read they're they're concise and they are um
seem to appear to be an accurate record of of what's taking place. Of course, some of this the time factor has has played in and it's, you know, um it's what our recollection is based on the actual the actual record. So, with that,
um commissioners, do we have Yes. Could I follow up on your remarks? >> Um I agree with you. I think that um minutes are very well organized and in many respects they're very easy to read. Um but um
as I read through them, I had very clear recollection of what we did and what happened before. And the August 5th meeting that we took where we approved a good number of these minutes and I counted this up and I sent it to the
city manager. Um, the minutes that were redone have many of the problems that they did before. They are in many respects still not accurate. And
what um what I'm not sure about is number one, we approved those minutes. The commissioner the commission voted on those minutes and with changes. We did that on August 10th
for minutes that I believe >> July 10th. The July 10th meeting that we had before us on the August at that August meeting that we approved. Correct. No, at um Hold on. At on August 5th, we had a special meeting to approve
the minutes. This is what I um this is what was on the agenda for the August 5th meeting was February 25th through I believe June 12th and we approved those with changes and
I found the changes that I wrote for two of the meetings but they were the changes that we all arrived at. Then on some I got a list of this. Then on August 12th, the commission approved the
regular CRA minutes for July 10th. That is what we did. So we have approved through July 10th. So to me, >> So you're saying August 5th at the special meeting, we approved all the
minutes >> through June 12th. There should be a tape of the August 5th. Okay, here's the agenda that was published for the August 5th meeting. It was a special meeting just for minutes and it goes through
um the minutes were divided up into two groups of regular done in regular fashion through May 27th and then uh two sets of Sonic clear transcription minutes June 11th and June 12th because as you know we had quite a few meetings.
So there should be a tape for the August 5th meeting in which we all wasn't just my changes. Um >> we we went through it. Some of my changes were accepted, some weren't. There were revisions, you know, um
commissioners had ways to shorten up um some of the things that we thought about. So, um, to me, either either we go through these again and do them again. And to me, if if we're going to do that, would we have to
resend our former approval? Because we voted it. >> No, I think the quickest way to do this would be to go back to the the uh record and see if that actually did indeed. And that should have been >> It's not indicated in the August 5th
special meeting. So those minutes it's not indicated in >> that we that we actually >> what and those are the >> and I noticed that and I think that's that was something else I had a question
about but I remember being here >> going through it um and unfortunately many of the changes that we made are still not here and Yeah.
>> Well, I don't want to go back through all these. I'm going tell you right now the agenda, >> but I mean >> it was February 25th through May 27th and then also June 11th and June 12th. >> Okay.
>> Right. And I wrote that to the city manager yesterday. Okay. So, if that's the case, well, it's not it obviously was not it's not on the August 5th agenda. And I had a question about that. You mean in in the minutes that we
had the minutes that we have in front of us again, but like I said, like I explained at the beginning is we had a change in staff and it's my understanding that with that change, we're not we are uncertain where those
went. Is that correct, Madam Clerk? >> Yes, ma'am. That is correct. >> Okay. Mr. Mayor, if I could, we cannot possibly be uncertain as to where the YouTube went of the August 5th meeting where we sat together and >> that's not what I said. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I'm
>> okay. So, before we get on the defensive, what I'm saying is is that we explained at the beginning we had an assistant clerk who was handling the minutes. A lot of this stuff happened when um our current our our current
clerk was going through some personal issues um with her with her mother and and so Nancy stepped in took that over. When Nancy departed, she was the assistant clerk. When she departed, it's my understanding. But a lot of that
information, a lot of those notes and I guess did you do it handwritten? How did you trans how did you give those notes? Okay. >> That you took? I know exactly how I did it. >> How did you do it? >> So for February 25th and March 13th, I
wrote them out. Um I typed them out page in line. >> Okay. >> And I emailed those to the city manager. Then for the balance of them through June, I think it was 12, Commissioner Lori. >> Okay. I hand wrote those and I made
copies and I gave them in his office to the city manager. >> Okay. And then those were, I believe, distributed to everybody because at the August 5th meeting, which is on YouTube, we all sat together and Commissioner
Lorie had his changes. You had some of yours, your very shortening. We and somewhere I have a copy of those, but all of that is on August 5th YouTube. It's got to be all of your changes. Well, all of everybody's changes. So, I want to I'm we're going to take care of
this right now. Um I just want to make sure um Commissioner Lauren, can you pull up that YouTube meeting? It should be right there at the very beginning. And if that's the case, then those minutes um then we would just have to we would go back and correct them based on
that. And those have already been approved and we can take them off of the agenda today. Yep. Thanks. >> Because we voted I'm pretty sure we did. That was I kind of >> Well, I know we they've come up several times.
>> Yeah. And in looking through these, I'm thinking we've already >> And I do have to say with Nancy leaving, >> the data in the folders wasn't correct. >> Yes. We had some issues with the data that was in the corners. Some
of it was incorrect or couldn't find certain things. >> This was also a budget meeting too. >> Yeah, it was a budget. >> Wait a minute. Did we um did we have two separate meetings? Did
we have a budget workshop after? >> I'm trying to figure out this is this is 2 hours and 40 minutes. So I don't know that >> it should be if we're going to do minutes. It's going to be it's going to be in the beginning. >> It's in the agenda. The agenda you showed showed it. Well, it was scheduled
for 12 noon and it was advertised as a special meeting on the minute. So, what I'm wondering about, did we have um a budget workshop afterwards or this
says special meeting on >> Oh, sorry. I was trying to hear This is part >> and how far in is that? >> So this is the first seven minutes
through something. So what what happened to it? >> They're not always in special order. Um, so I have on my schedule for that day a 10 o'clock um, budget meeting >> budget and then nothing else after that.
>> Well, we had a notice meeting for no seven minutes and I I think we did get out of there for quite a while. Maybe Commissioner Burton had to leave. Was that
>> I think she had an appointment. >> I know that there were certain concessions made for exact language that was used that was approved, but the Sonic Clear program does summarize all of those um all of the language that's used. And I believe there was some small
things that needed to be added as far as roll call, maybe a last name, but >> Oh, they weren't small. They weren't small. There's whole sections that were permitted. >> Okay. So, this one, it says we adjourned at 12:45 p.m. on that day. So, that was
almost a three-hour meeting. >> Yeah, that's >> And that's what it was. I don't see the other >> and so you don't see anything else for that day. Um >> I do see on
August 12th our meeting >> and there was a move to approve the July 10th 2025 minutes as amended and that passed going here. That's what I just said. But we have a notice meeting for 12 noon on
August 5th, 2025. Do we have a record of that being can I mean I'm I'm sure we went through that. >> We did have a meeting minutes. I know a lot of time, >> right? And my recollection is is that
both the clerk and the assistant to the clerk were there. I thought I don't know, maybe not. Now, on July 31st, if you look at July 31st, it looks like we had
um a 1:00 and a 4:00. Okay. And for those in our notebook, they're in my calendar. So, that's what I'm checking right now. I'm looking in I'm looking in this book right now to see what we have on that. Okay. So, we
have July 21st. July 31st. Here is the one that came at at 1:00 and then that one ended at 4:00 noting a special meeting that would immediately follow to set the tenative
millage rate in that meeting. >> What's the date that you're seeing that? Um on the 31st we had a workshop and then we had a special meeting at 4 for the mill that was should have been for the milly >> July.
So on on our uh on our August 12th meeting, we approved the minutes for the July 10th the July 10th meeting minutes on on our on our August 12th meeting,
>> right? >> And so I think of course before that we had gone up to that point. Um >> well we kept moving on we kept deferring them tableabling them >> um and that's why they were they I mean they were building it they had built up
>> you're not seeing anything dates on it unless it's in the title which we do now page. >> Well, then I think what we can do at this point since there's some discrepancy here and we're not sure that
um if we need to that any anything for um this would be um I don't know how we would want to go about doing this. you want to make a motion to um to reassess to set aside the original motion to
approve and we're going to re-review these and then approve them um in full. Um we can do that for anything that had been approved prior to that date. We can do a motion for that then go through them. Um otherwise I don't know
I think a lot of that has been has possibly been lost. Um, you know, Commissioner Devito, if you come up with your changes later, if you find the changes that you had and you want to bring them to the commission at a later date, we can ask those to be added to
the original minutes that were approved. We can go about it that way. >> Well, just I wasn't the only one, but >> I understand. But I'm satisfied with the way the minutes are presented. >> Okay. Well, if we if we go through them today, I have gone through and found
things that need to be corrected. I think some of the original corrections that we made are still needing to be made even after Sonic Clear and that is also true for um the July 10th meeting minutes. Um I
have um some of the corrections and additions that that I had then and they they still aren't there. There's a part from the planning firm where presentation was made and that just didn't get in the minutes. I don't know
why. >> If I may, my recollection of that is um Commissioner Vito is correct. She she gave um changes but those changes were never made. That was the transition.
>> That was Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. >> Those items are missing. >> Okay. >> So, they were never updated. >> No, ma'am. They were never correct. >> They were they were never corrected in the actual minutes that were before us. Yes. Okay. >> Okay. I would agree with that. Right.
Okay. So, mayor, you're saying you want us to um to revisit our whatever original approval we did of February 25th through June 12th and go back through them. Um yeah. Well, I don't I
want to say this as we start this out is um if you're making substantive changes to these without the entire commission um having an opportunity to to read, listen to, these are these are pretty factual
and without he said, she said, this added, this added. Um because again we've talked about this in the past that it needs to be an accurate record of what took place and and when we start adding well I said this she said this
then we have to be very careful that that is in fact how it was actually stated. >> Okay. >> Um and so I don't want to get caught in I don't want to get lost in the weeds here today. I say that, you know, I would like to limit this to um no more than an hour um and and if we can get
through that at that point. But before we do anything, we're going to have to have a motion to resend any pri any prior approvals and a request to re-review all minutes that were
my primarks would be to further research it because I think and commission you think that we actually did the corrections to those steps of minutes. >> We have a meeting. Yes. >> We just need to find where it is. But it
was Mel's here and Nancy was here and >> there should be a tape >> and there might be I just I can't find it right now from there just easier. We need to send the minutes to approve.
>> If not, we're going to be in the same situation we we are in and we'll be in January still looking at the minutes. So, the clerk has requested of us before she leaves office, before she leaves her office, that she would like to be able to have these all cleaned up and I start
fresh at our next meeting um with with whomever it is that is that is going to be in place and taking the minutes so that there's not that burden placed on that next person to come in and try to interpret what we have what we thought needed to be in these minutes. >> And that's what happened to me when she
first got here. She walked into trying to catch up our first time. >> She's been trying to catch up. So, she knows what that's like. So, I think we have we have that responsibility and minutes don't have to be that difficult and we make them so so difficult.
>> It really they really don't. We go through this. I've been doing this for five years now and every meeting minutes are difficult and we'll spend 45 minutes on on minutes and I go to other meetings and minutes you know it's it's it's not that case. So I think we here at the
commission we have a new system here and I tell you I love the way they are doing these minutes. These are the best our minutes have ever been. Okay, before I was before I was sitting here um even in the audience I think this is a great opportunity we have these fall into that
pattern. So anybody looking back on them um but commissioners you know it's it's it's your call. So um I'm giving you my recommendation. All right. Um there are still with Sinclair significant problems
with minutes. It's not that we make them difficult. for example, uh motion and second not there. We can't have that. >> Well, she said that they have to regardless, you still have to proof these, right? >> They still have to be proof. And the and
the clerk just said that that she handed these to us as a trying to get them to us because they were there was a lot of volume here and that they had not been proved. >> Um and so that's part of it, but that's an easy fix. These were the motions. So, >> okay. Well, my Well, really minutes are
yays and nays, >> you know. It's really what what did you vote on? Okay. >> Okay. And that's the problem. They don't always say accurately what we have voted on. And as a commission, uh I hope in the future that we are not in the
position of proofreading minutes, but I will make the motion that we receive. >> You know what? We always will proofread minutes. We will always proofread minutes because you should never you should never recommend an approval unless you've had a chance to look it
over. It's what we add to these minutes. >> No, Mayor, we are in a position tonight. Yes, I always read minutes and I'm criticized for proofreading them. The things I bring up frequently are names are not there. Names are misspelled. People who attended the meeting are not
there. that is not making the minutes more diffic. >> Yes. But also I don't think we should be sitting here criticizing ourselves for essentially things that should be in the minutes when they come to us. So, um
I move that this commission resend our prior approvals for the meetings special meeting February 25th. Commission meeting regular meeting March 13th. And these are all 2025.
Special meeting city commission March 21st. Special meeting city commission March 28th. Special meeting city commission April 8th. City Commission regular CRA meeting April 10th special meeting. City Commission, April 21st,
Special Meeting, City Commission, April 22nd, City Commission regular meeting, May 8th, City Commission Workshop, May 19th, special meeting city commission May 27th, and Sun Clear transcription minutes for
city commission workshop June 11th, city commission regular meeting June 12th. Although that's the motion. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. So, we have a proper motion and a second. Commissioners, do we have any
further discussion on this? >> If none, madam clerk, if you do a roll call. >> Commissioner Burton, >> I. >> Commissioner Moore, >> I. >> Commissioner Lorie, >> hi. >> Commissioner Devito, >> I Okay, so let's move on. Um, so what you
have before you um is from February 25th, um, forward and we're going to go through the August and it goes through September 25th for that last to that
last special meeting that we have. Um, as you've gone through these, does anybody have any changes that are >> Yes, I do. Um, I do not have anything for February the 25th.
>> Okay. Does anybody have anything for February 25th? >> Okay, let's go to March 13th. Um, and before we go forward, Madam Clerk, have you found anything in these minutes that you have already corrected?
Yes, ma'am. March 13. I got a roll call. That's missing in my roll call is in my copy. I mean, we have to approve what's in front of us
with changes. >> I know. I just mad. Commissioner Devita asked her if she's found any changes that need to be made that she needs that need to be made before we go through things that she's already found in her in her proof reading piece.
>> Okay. But she said roll call was missing. The roll call is there. >> Some of the um the motions who made the motion those were missing. I have since corrected those.
>> Okay. But that's not in front of us. So, and Melanie, do you have those? Do you have any of those that you've changed? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. Could you give us >> Could you give us the changes, please, if you've got those before you? >> I know we've got ordinance 202501 and
ordinance 202502, and it doesn't have who made the motions on either one of those. >> Ordinance 202501. A motion was made by Commissioner Burton, seconded Commissioner Warryly
approved. Okay. Ordinance 202502. Motion made by Commissioner Lori, seconded Commissioner Burton. Approved. So the next meeting was I mean the next
ordinance 20 252 that was commissioner Lori and Commissioner Burton. Yes. Thank you. >> Commissioner Burton seconded. Commissioner Rory unanimously approved.
Ordinance 256 >> the table >> the facilities table motion to table commissioner devito seconded by Lori >> and we tabled that till April 10th
>> or was approved by the state >> and that was unanimously approved. >> Yes ma'am. >> Commissioner made a motion. Commissioner Moore seconded. Commissioner Devito opposed. >> Wait, this is 202507.
Yes. >> Okay. And budget. Okay. On the first bullet, I have no idea what I asked for the first time, but it says Commissioner DO expressed concern about peace meal amendments. should be peace meal
amendments to the budget >> to the it should be to the amended budget. It wasn't to the budget. This was to the budget amendment. >> Well, >> so it should have been to the amended budget. >> No, what I meant was peace meal. Just take out the word amendments. Peace meal
changes to the budget. to the amended budget >> she was concerned about making amendments >> changes >> globally. So if we could on that first bullet take out at the end of the first
bullet amendments say changes to the budget. >> Did you say amendments or did you say changes? >> Changes. changes >> basically changing the budget in >> to any I think you need to say to any given budget.
>> Exactly. >> Did I say yes or did I say a no? I'm just kidding. >> I say it. >> Okay. So, Do you have that now?
>> Commissioner. Yes. Seconded. Commissioner Burton unanously approved. Um >> and also um backing up, we have a resolution of the Oasis Crescent Lake.
>> The motion made by Commissioner Burton. >> It says it died for lack. >> Put a second factory. >> Okay. So, I have a question about that item. Okay. Under discussion. Um, I think this was the first time this
item came up. >> I don't know. Um, there was one time the item came up that Commissioner Lorie had concerns about it. >> Was this that >> this was the first time? first time
because the bullet to me is not accurate about whatever it was that Commissioner Lorie said. He said express disappointment at the lack of support for potential economic growth. >> I don't think that's what you said. >> I think that you had concerns about the
proposal. >> Yes. >> I don't think this is what you said. >> Do you want to suggest a change for what you said? >> Definitely, you know, take out that. Um, I just I think I expressed concern almost what it says for you. I
expressed concern about the potential development and environmental impacts that because I don't express potential economic growth,
>> but I remember the first >> Yeah. That's the first time it came up. So, let's >> Okay. And they are also, if we could go back one more page. >> Um, ordinance 2025 20256 tabled.
>> Um, it just says the ordinance. It doesn't say what the ordinance was. This was the comp plan amendment regarding our the water element, the water supply island. Was that correct? >> Yes.
>> Yes, it was. Yes. Um I think that would be helpful. >> Just put the title. Just put the title of title. Include the title. Okay. >> Okay. Let's move on. >> And also Mr. uh Coret's name. >> Okay. You mean as far as those being
present because he's not listed as present. >> It's his how his name's spelled. >> Correct. >> Sorry. On the first page under the 202501 it says the address is 2011 North Central Summit Street.
>> Yes, >> those are those little things. >> Yeah. Just just take out the central. >> Thank you. And under the business items number four men it says the fishy. >> Yeah.
>> M A R G A. >> Okay. Um, also I see a I've seen a training for council operations where it says participate jointly. >> Um,
>> that you made that recommendation. >> Well, basically the recommendation was that we all sign up so that we could get the um >> Okay. So, suggesting all commissioners participate, take jointly out. How's that?
>> Um, yes, but it was to to get the fee discount. That was it. >> That was the reason I said it and that's what I said. >> Okay, let's go to the the next page with the motion on the um >> Marine
second. That's muted. I think >> you see where >> I'm sorry >> it's number five on the on the business under it says city manager resignation and then underneath that there was a motion to appoint Christina Marie. That's where Michael had made the
recommendation for Christina Marie to step in as interim city manager. motion. We can add that when she when she's had a chance to research that. >> And the only other thing I see is under
>> there's another one um down under legal services contract the motion. >> Um there's not a second. It's whoever it was the veto made the um made um moved approval with modifications. But who seconded it? So,
we're going to have to find that. >> Okay. Okay. We have anything else with that? We'll move on to the next one. We're going to get with that. Let's move on to March 21st, 2025. Okay. under city manager compensation.
>> Right. Just figure out what this says. This is where we gave her um uh to be paid for at the end of the month. This is where she was given the additional compensation as the interim city manager. bumped up her pay from where she assisted.
>> But so it's moved to provide an increase in the form of supplemental payment to be paid >> well to paid for at the end of the month effective March during and it should be during the time she is serving
as assistant city manager. >> Okay. We just have to make sure that that's in fact what the motion said. But I mean sure it did well because that is what it was for and it doesn't make sure that how the motion read. So we check on that
and so that it reads as it as it was stated. >> Well, we have a lot of motions here that don't read as they're stated. They just say this is the title of motion. >> Well, then what do you want to change it to? Go ahead. How do you change it? there. It should reflect at the end
where there's a period put a comma that says during the time she is serving as assistant city manager because otherwise it's not clear really >> what interim city >> or interim city manager.
>> Okay. What else do you have in March 21st? Um in number six where it talks about the general fund carryover balance public works funding um was commissioner Roy moved to allocate
25,000 to public works. This was I guess that was out of the balance of 173,000. >> Okay. To should have said what it was for or just just wanted to public works. >> Just public works. >> Okay. So that is accurate. Um
then on number 77 um tree clearing project allow Ford gas utility to manage and perform the tree clearing project. Um was there a payment involved in that?
>> No, I don't believe so. >> Not at the time. >> Not at the time. >> That was just to afford it, >> right? But at some point >> we had to pay for it. That was >> I think that was at another another point in time when it came out because at that point I don't even know if we
knew how much it was going to actually cost. >> That's when they came to tell us >> and how and the options that we had in front of us. >> Okay. >> All right. >> The only other thing I see um Madam Clerk is at the very end you might want
to move over the signature signature line a little bit. Okay, let's move on to March 28th. >> I halfway down the bottom of the first page, it says presenters George Schwarz and Jen Hansen, >> Florida advisors,
and we just need to put senior adviserss from the Florida city manager. Actually, it says right there FC. So, just senior advisors, FCCMA, >> put that after their after their names. That's their title. Yeah. >> Okay. Correct. Senior advisors. And then
also um my note is it says out of 17 applicants the following six were recommended. And it was recommended after the word recommended we should say to be interviewed because that that's what we were doing. Okay. To be interviewed.
Okay. Let's go to the next page. Um, but if I have one thing on the next page, may I >> say yes. >> Okay. Under about 3/4 of the way down the page under additional motion,
the bullet says Commissioner Dvito motioned. It should be moved. Not motioned. Um and that the only other thing I would say in that one is um that we do not live stream that meeting to the public in general. I would take that in
general. It's just that we do not live stream that meeting to the public and that public attendance would be in person only. So just take that in general. >> Any we have any other changes? Um on the next page somehow, oh when we had a
discussion the use of department of corrections inmate work groups. Um so we did not vote on that. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. No vote. All right. Okay. Anything else? If nothing, we're
going to move on to April 8th. That was when we started um zoomed in. Yeah. >> Right. Let me go back to one thing. This last page for the commission action and it says motion
veto moved to interview candidates. Seconded by Lori and the vote, you know, I voted nay and it it looks kind of like odd. Why would I vote nay when everybody else voted yay? And I wouldn't mind the reason for that put there. And the
reason for that was because I wanted Christina >> Marie. Um I asked for her to have >> So rather than put it with your vote because we don't normally put it with your vote, you're going to want to put it up above as a comment, but
Commissioner B. Yes. In the discussion, Commissioner Burton had requested Christina Marie also be added to that list. >> That's right. >> Is that correct? Yes. >> Does everybody recall that? Yes. Yes. >> Okay. So, let's add that in there. Thank you, Commissioner Burton.
Okay, now we're back on to April 8th. >> Yep. Um, hold on. I have a question about that. Um, under the roll call, um, was Sheila Walker present at that meeting? Um, I do not believe Sheila was
present. >> No, I don't think she was at this one. I think she was at the at the next one. Okay. And at this meeting, when at what time did we discuss payment of travel expenses? Did we cover that at this
meeting? I don't see it in here. Somewhere we talked about travel expenses. Um this interview was selected. Um we did interviews.
>> Yeah, we did Zoom interviews. We might not have even talked about that until the >> April 10th >> and that's when we said who that Sheila and Michelle I think would be handling
>> or somebody Christina or somebody was going to be handling that. >> So you don't think we talked about paper? All right cuz somewhere we had to. So um April 10th, let's go on to April 10th if we have no other question, no
other comments on that. Okay, going through this. Everybody's good. Um oh wait, let's back up. Um under 11, community redevelopment agency legend call to action. Um, Commissioner
Lori moved to oppose Senate Bill 1242. Um, I think it would be helpful to say the bill that would um restrict um CR expenditures.
>> Bill restricting CRA expenditures. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. >> Okay. Let's move on. Anything else? >> 13. Revised revised ordinance under 13 revised ordinance 2025-06.
The bullet um should always say moved as opposed to motioned. Okay. Okay. And then I have another one under business item somewhere. Um, if you go to number five, motion approved by Commissioner Lori, it just
should it just motion by Commissioner Lori. So, we can take approved down under the urban tree grant. >> So, we'll just take approved out on that one. >> Okay. Where was that? >> So, number five, urban tree grant public outreach meeting says motion approved by Commissioner Lori. It said motion.
>> Oh. Oh. Oh. Right. Right. Right. Right. And also and anywhere it says Crescent City Women's Club, um I believe that's woman singular with an A, not a E. Okay, if that change could be made. And
then um actually I had something on the prior page under fireworks contract. Yes. Um the motion at the very end where it says availability. Um it's after confirming funding received
from donors for the full cost. That was the purpose of my motion at that time. We we were not going to approve signing the contract until all the money was >> funding received until all funding is received is what you basically said confirming until all funding is
received. Okay. >> All funding is received. Okay. Okay. All right. That's important. >> Okay, I'm going to go over to 17. Um, and
I think that 17. >> Yeah. And you go 17. >> Item 17. >> I think that's the that's that final page. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is everybody good? >> Okay. Then let's move on to April 21st.
Does anybody have anything on the April 21st agenda? Meetings, minutes as mayor Myers 11:19 a.m. All were in favor. >> Right. There's no motion on >> and there might not have been. Sometimes
there is, sometimes there's not. So sometimes it just gets to the point. I just don't turn. So love to just check on that if we can check on that just to make sure there was no motion. >> We can do that at the workshop. >> I know that sometimes we get to the end
if there's not one. Um >> but this was our morning meeting. >> It was okay. So let's >> April then um April 22nd, 2025. Um the one thing on this is that I think if we can just make note that all commissioners were present.
>> Yes ma'am. >> Um my my other thing to note is we interviewed five candidate or four candidates and there's one there's Mr. Eric Martin Mr. Frank or Jeff Shoebridge, which is not his name.
Um, it's S H O and then Frank Franchesco. >> Patrick Jordan who I believe was before Derek. >> Yeah, I think I think Derek was second. >> I was second.
>> Wonder if that was technical difficulty. I'm not sure if we were having capture that whole front. I'll check on that. Thank you. Well, I know he was there because I think we discussed >> I think he's the first one we interviewed,
>> right? And he's discussed later in >> public comment. It has Ralph Devito. I'm not sure who he is, but I know that his name is >> Thank you. Two T's. >> Yes. Some random guy from
>> Okay. Can we move on to the next page? Anything on the next page? Okay, we see nothing. Let's go to the next page. The last page everything's name. >> Yes, let's just make sure that and also
under public comment. Um, I don't think my husband was the only one who made a comment. My recollection is that there were several comments. Um, was this the date of the Was this the date of the um
>> the reception? No. Um, it was that um um evening. Yeah, it was that evening after the reception. Okay. How did this happen? Cuz we had the reception first. Okay. Cuz if we have the reception
first, then we'll attended we can be done. Well, we started it um we started the meeting at the reception basically. Um we opened it up because we were all here. So if I remember correctly, we
opened it all up and then we went from the reception into the into the candidate into the candidates interviews. And so we just need to probably make a note on here that publish reception, right? Because I remember I wrote a
paragraph that described the reception and that there were people here. I think we had what at least 20 to 25 people per day. Yeah. >> Was at four. We just need to put reception started at 4
>> public reception to meet the candidates with interviews following. >> Okay, we're done with that. Let's move on to May 8th. Again, Commissioner Devito, if you find your your your notes and you want to um
ask that they be amended, you can petition the commission for that. Um May 8th, does anybody have anything on May 8th? This was the one remember we went this was pretty extensive and we did verbatim
based on based on this because this was the discussion from we had all the people in in the audience from the ice and it was just following the ice >> earlier that was >> oh I remember very well Um,
so it was that one was pretty lengthy. Do we have any changes? Does anybody have any notations in this? I honestly I didn't have I didn't have any in this. Um, so then if none, let's move on to May 19th.
This was where we had the second presentation by Oasis. um which that property now is up for sale. Um okay this and um at some point I think when we had whatever meeting it
was we had on the minutes I had made the suggestion that all minutes be dated and have page numbers at the bottom and the you know you can have a >> weward let's just see if it can do that if it
can put a page number. Um, it should because under golf cart ordinance, um, the first bullet under my name where I said I noted the absence of marked crossings over county road 308 rendering
the city, it should be parts of the city. Okay. Parts of the city. Okay. Not the whole city. Okay. Does anybody have anything else on this?
Then let's move on to May 27th. >> First page. Second page. >> On the third page on the second page more reflect on the importance of preserving local shopping options
in public. >> Oh no. Oh, it's up in the up. >> Sorry. Right there. She's the last one on the top. >> I'm sorry. >> I didn't hear you. >> Um, it's under public comments. There's
like a lot of Spicer and you might know, Miss Bradley, Steve Cummings, then Dodge, and Commissioner Moore. >> Okay, >> that should go up there. >> Just go up there just below Commissioner Lori. >> Right. So we can just move hers just just a matter of moving hers to be part
of discussion commission discussion and then also um that's great. Thank you commissioner. I knew there was I saw a comment. I thought that was accurate on the next page. Do you have anything >> on the same page? I do. Okay. Under five historic preservation grant Miller
Middle School. Um I made a motion to apply for the small matching grant. Um, he discussed a small matching grant opportunity. Um, we need to say the small matching grant
was for what was that for, Commissioner Lori? >> We're expanding our working on it right now. >> We're writing on that um >> our historic um >> our historic district. So, they're working on that right now.
>> Okay. that provide additional information point. >> Wait, hang on. So, he's working on writing the grant. >> That's already proposal already. >> Okay. So, we >> we just needed there was this additional commission.
>> Okay. So, there was a small matching grant opportunity to >> for updating the national register >> to fund the up to fund and update of the National Register historic district. Yes.
because we are applying for quite a few of these things and it should okay set it. >> So the last page, anything on the last page? >> Wait, hang on. I had something else on that same page under historic preservation grant. Um
very last paragraph that starts note at 5:45 p.m. internet service the last >> 5:40 p.m. internet service was disrupted. >> Right. Okay. But on the second line, it says the city will not pursue a larger grant at this time. We should I think
replace a larger grant at this time and say will not pursue the larger special categories grant from the division of historical resources and that would have been for the Miller Middle School
property. Okay. Anything on the last page? >> No, >> nothing on the last page. Let's move on to um Jul June 11th. >> Um they're four setting overight. >> Okay. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Um
there's no role. There's no um indication of who was present here. >> Oh, okay. That's opening. Please. >> Well, >> that covers up for >> So, if we just need to add like we do with the rest, just to keep them
uniform, we'll put, you know, all present because I believe everybody was present in that one. So, all commissioners were present. >> Um, and again, this is the one where it just says I had put this is in my notes that I had somewhere. um
at under rate setting and financial oversight or whatever. First, we need Katie's last name and her title. And also, I believe this started out not with our discussion, but she made a presentation to us
>> and it does not say that. And I think she made made a presentation on where our gas company is. >> The whole thing, this whole thing was a presentation by her. And I think that's why we welcomed attendees. That's the only reason that all the commissioners would have welcomed attendees is because
I believe it was Katie and her staff that were here, >> right, to make the pres to make this presentation. So you can put it up there at the beginning. Um the purpose was outlined to discuss the city's gas utility infrastructure. And so RS that
discuss the cities, you know, um, uh, a presentation, you can put in there an outline to for presentation by um, presentation by Katie um, with Florida Gas to discuss the
city's gas utility infrastructure because basically she was the one that that was giving us all this information and it was her presenting to us >> and it's a workshop >> and it was a workshop. We didn't take any action. >> No action. So I think that's what that's all you have. That's all we have. The
purpose of the workshop was was um and you don't even have to say outline. The purpose of the workshop was for a presentation by Katie with Florida Gas or you could even put just Florida gas utility >> um to discuss the city's gas utility infrastructure. >> Right. But could we please put in her
name and title? And I believe she was here with another gentleman. She was >> Tom. Yeah, it was another gentleman that was with her. I think that time >> stage >> the young the new he had just started. He just come on. >> On number four
site. It says the potential involvement by the public service commission. I think we just need to remove that because that not what we're talking about. Actually, it was potential involvement by for gas utilities to help us run the system. It has nothing to do
with public service commission, >> right? >> So it should a potential involvement by Florida Gas Utilities, not deployed the PS. >> That makes it sound like commercial. >> Well, they don't regulate our rates, >> right?
>> Well, they won't they won't regulate do something wrong >> quickly. Um, no, I mean, we don't go. So, second page. Anything on the second page? >> I don't. Okay, I think we're good. Let's move on to June 12th.
Anything on the first page? >> Yes, if we could delete the bullet that says recited by say pledge of allegiance. >> Yeah. Um this this was a regular meeting
is there. >> Okay. Second page. >> Second page under public comment. Um, second bullet, uh, Angel Duke's last name does not have a s at the end.
>> And I believe was Ken Roberts asking for permanent approval. >> No, >> on behalf >> he was speaking on behalf of this the celebration or did he just tell us about it? >> I don't think he I mean he was just >> I think he just >> her spokesperson because she was not
there. She was ill. >> Oh, I remember that. But he didn't he didn't speak to the permit. >> I thought he did. >> Um, and then again, >> he didn't speak to it in the public comment other than encouraging us to to please support this.
>> I kind of thought he did because I think he needed to leave and I thought we let him speak to the permit. I thought we did. Um second page. Anything on the second page?
>> Yes. Under 7.1 fire chief recognition. Um under the second bullet uh chief hypo thank the commission introduced his successor. I don't know somewhere in there um there
was a shield presentation. It was when he um the introduction of the new fire chief is when he did he um he gave him the shield. >> Okay. Can we say because it should say chief >> and presented him with his with a
shield. How's that? >> That's fine. >> Okay. Let's move on to the second page. Well, >> it says >> what did you ask? >> Well, I just wanted to say it does come
back to a special event from it as for Junth celebration >> and that was during >> during his and he didn't stay for that. He just spoke during public comments. >> Okay. And before we leave the second
page under 7.3 before the word proclamation, it should say a memorial proclamation. And um this is a change I meant made before. Then the first bullet mayor Myers read proclamation.
Um, if we could take out recognizing and put honoring the late Jenny Gaffne's contributions and after that to the community. Is that okay? I'm fine with that. Okay. Second page.
>> Um, I don't see anything. Do you see anything on the second page? >> Yes. Diamond Wireless. Um, do we have the last name of Cameron who made the presentation? I'll check on that. >> Yeah, if not, it's can just be D Cameron
with D communications. Do you have anything else on that page? >> Um, I do. Um, under number eight, summary of code enforcement lean reduction. Um somewhere in here it doesn't say it was presented
by Pam Taylor's code officer and it doesn't say these are recommendations from well it says property post specialist recommendation from I don't know it's doesn't say it was presented by Pam Taylor and they're
really the recommendations from the special magistrate. >> Okay so we can just put this presented by code enforcement officer Pam Taylor. Okay. And this was spoken, >> right? And it it does not say it says
what we decided to do. It doesn't say that we are implementing the co the uh special magistrate's recommendation, but I think that's what it was. >> Well, it says on here special magistrate recommendate recommended fine fine reduction. The original fine was a,000.
So all you'd have to put is the decision was to reduce lean to administrative cost of 123 payable in 30 days. I think that was the magistrate's recommendation, >> but it doesn't say so. >> Well, then let's add it. Yeah. >> Okay.
>> Okay. Let's go on to the next page. Anything on the next page? Nothing. Let's go to the last page. Um we had to have extended this meeting. So, there should have been a um a motion at some point to extend this.
>> Um yes. >> And the only other thing I would add is where it says motion authorize city manager and city attorney to negotiate lean reduction with potential new owner. Not the current owner, with potential new owner. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. to and so you would go to negotiate with the potential new owner lean reduction to 25,000 in compliance. >> Well, I think they both have to agree. >> Um was part of a was part of a sale.
>> Yes. But we want to make sure that it doesn't that the previous owner that doesn't take place with the previous owner. >> So I think this was really a request of the potential new owner that is part of their closing. >> Yeah. So
does um and also on the prior page um three things 12.2 special event permit June celebration it should say at Eion Park that's where that was taking place.
Um 12.3 the emergency purchase authorization for lawnmower. Um, first bullet says approved purchase up to $16,000 12,000 from side by side fund. What would that be? We don't have a side
by side. >> Um, it should have been from um >> Yeah. So it should should have been >> you get those proper >> with that whatever fund that should have come out of.
>> Yeah. >> It's their um operating is it their operational >> those came out of better place funds. >> Yeah. Yep. >> And we we put that in the budget this year reflecting that. >> Okay. Okay. So wait a minute. So that would be $12,000 from better place plan
funds remainder from public works. So, if any went over the 12,000, is that correct? >> Correct. >> Okay. And then also under city dock repairs. Um I don't we had two motions, one to
approve $2,000 and another for 13 and it doesn't say where we were taking those funds from. >> I believe it was also supposed to be better place and then we were going to reimburse it. >> You were going to reimburse it. Yes. >> Okay. I'm positive that was I'm pretty
positive that was from better place because that's at that time where we had it. >> So you should say but is that something that the clerk should check on before she sets in stone? >> So yes, Steve, would you look into that please? Okay, let's go to the next page.
We've already talked about that. There should have been a motion somewhere to extend the meeting and then a motion to adjourn the meeting. Okay, let's go on to June July 10th. Okay, tell me on this. Okay, also on first page under also present, I believe
Mark Kare had to be there. Um, one of these he was not. We'll just have to check on it and make sure he might have been there because it said a comp plan amendment. Um, well, this is either he or Katie. One of them attended. So, hang on. Let's just get >> Hang on just a second. We are at the
end, I believe, of the minutes that we previously approved and we agreed to um resend the previous approval and replace with today's. Uh, we approved July 10th minutes, uh, didn't we, at the August regular
meeting. And I have the changes that I sent for distribution. Um, and I believe this is the meeting where
Mark Karro made a presentation about um the ground floor residential amendments and all that. Um, so he definitely was there. That was in the central business. That was for the central business district, >> right? And his his whole presentation.
>> Okay. >> Well, if he was there, if you would just verify who was present, if he was or if Rebecca was. >> It was Mark. >> I remember just >> look up who was there. Okay. So, let's move on to page two of this meeting. Do
we have anything on that? Um, so this is where we tabled all of these. So, this is where they all came in at that meeting. All of these ones that we've talked about and they were tabled >> um until a special meeting can be held,
>> right? That was scheduled for August the 5th. Yeah. Um because this is July 10th. >> Okay. So, do we have anything on the third page? Hang on. Wait a minute. Hold on. This is public hearings.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'm sorry. I'm looking at my changes. >> Public hearing. >> Oh, but it says public hearing. Number six. >> Yes. Right. That's the problem. >> It really should be public comment,
>> right? That's the problem. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Where it says number six, that was supposed to be public comment. Then um >> don't have public hearings, >> but there's no don't we usually have a heading that says public hearings?
>> We usually do public hearings, >> right? So there's no heading that says public hearing. >> So let's just add a public hearing. Well, it says number six, public hearing. That was >> that public comment. Okay. >> And because it says none, no one made the comment.
>> So then we go into public hearing immediately following that public hearing. So, we need a header for that. >> Yes. >> Okay. Do we have anything else on that on that page after that? 7 8 9. Okay. Let's go on to 10.
>> Okay. Sorry. Number nine. It says in parentheses Crescent Lake Fish Camp LLC. It should be Crescent Fish Camp. >> Crescent Lake. >> Okay. Where is that number? >> Yes. to be correct.
>> So, if we move on to 10, I know it has where we didn't recess. Um, madam clerk, it doesn't show where we recessed for the CRA. >> So, we just need that >> that I did, but it doesn't say that we reopened.
>> Yeah, that was the >> And I don't know that we had anything. It doesn't there's nothing under CRA. So we might not know what we had. >> Hold on. Yeah. And was that the thing to do is to go back and look at the agenda and see
if there were any items on the agenda. >> Yeah. We just need to check on that for what we had for a CRA if in fact we had anything for CRA. >> Were there items? Because it could be that we overlooked it. Okay. Under business items after we resume and I assume there should be a number to
business items. Somehow we put down there um business items one two three but there's okay see where it says see where it says 11 CRA meeting then usually business items would have some
kind of a number but we don't start numbering again until city manager report but anyway >> so the 12 next to business items if you would please >> I don't I don't know coming to me we can describe about that but under business items where it says central business
district ground floor residential amendments. Um Mark Caret made an a presentation about unfinished business and um that he felt was >> So give me some verbiage that you want
to put in there regarding Mark Caret, please. >> Well, I don't I don't have it. I mean it's it's on the table. >> So it should be on the agenda. and he'll check on the agenda and just that Mark Caret made a presentation regarding the central business history >> right and
>> well it was he feels that this is >> right and mayor we had a we had a commission discussion about this this wasn't a large part of the agenda because he felt um that part of our
central business district planning uh needed to be uh ground floor residential um no ground floor residential. Um and we had before us it doesn't say that Mr. Ron Large who's property owner on
Central Avenue, he was there to speak and ask um for uh the authorization to have a ground floor apartment in back of his building
>> and we had a lengthy discussion about that. Well, because the way the land develop is written now is you cannot have any residential on the the ground floor and so we wanted we needed to change it so that we could have >> in the back in the back >> or upstairs or adjacent.
>> So we have on there ground floor residential amendment. So we can have ground floor residential discussion >> and what it says on the on the agenda is central business district regarding amended ground floor residential. Okay. But also, mayor, this does not include
the fact that Mr. Ron Mard spoke and requested authorization for his um renovation to be able to include a ground floor residential apartment. >> We weren't at that point.
>> That's going to be that's going to have to be public comment. That's going to have to be in our public meetings that we have to have >> because we we were he made the change he spoke. Yes. >> But it doesn't ask permission. I mean that was we didn't have a process in place but we were changing
the need. >> He just talked about the need. So so please if you want to add in here let's get through this that you know Mr. Ron Lard spoke to this the need for this. Okay. Is that good? Let's move on to the
next page. >> See nothing. Let's go to the final page. >> But um 14 the city roll recognition. >> It was Commissioner and I. >> Okay. So, please note that um it was presented to Commissioner Lori and
Commissioner Dito. >> Go ahead. And that that was a change previously made. Um also on um on the prior page actually. Hold on here. Um
okay. Manager number five, city attorney reimbursement says seconded by commissioner to approve payment to attorney Holmes was I don't know if this was part of the motion but purpose was for attending the federal court mediation.
>> Okay. For attending federal court mediation, >> right? And it was in addition to the FMIT attorney. That's why he was asking us for that. Um we did okay actions to extend um oh also under nine August
regular meeting date rescheduled um from August 14th and the purpose was for commission members to be able to attend Florida League of Cities annual conference >> and we state that also somewhere in a later so it's later so I mean it's but
that's why we did it >> it's a it's a whole different set of minutes um Okay, that's all I have for that. >> Okay, last page. Um, I know we need something to show that there was a
motion to extend >> strangely is in a different location. >> Oh, that's right. You did. I apologize. You're right. >> Um, but you know what? It does not say for 957. It does not say who made the
motion. Um, for either for either one. It does not say who made the We need a motion and second for both. Okay. And with that, let's move on to July 21st. >> From the top, it says budget workshop and special meeting.
>> First one was >> right. This should have just probably been this was a special meeting, blue ribbon committee extension. >> So I think it was the first we met. Oh my god. Do you remember this? We met on the budget workshop and then following
immediately following that we had the special meeting. >> Okay. That's That's where I was confused. >> Okay. Steve's name needs to be added to that. Finance director Steve >> and arrived shortly. I don't think that needs to be >> um I would put um arrived later.
>> I don't think it needs whatever >> he was, >> right? But not shortly. >> Yeah. Just check out his last name. >> And then also your last name is >> I know >> at this point I don't remember my last name. Exactly. Mayor, I have a I have a
question about who was present at this meeting. Um, at some meeting that we had, the tax collector spoke to him. >> I don't remember so far seeing that in any of these minutes. >> It was the property property. Well, whoever.
>> Bren, it wasn't Brenda. It was >> um he came they came in and made the presentation and that was before that was before we made the um the minimum. Yeah. When we the maximum millage when we did our maximum millage. So that would have been in one of those
meetings. So we just need to look back on the agenda and see Steve, do you recall that he came in before we set our maximum millage? >> Yes, I believe so. >> And they made that they were here to answer questions and to give us an overview on how they arrived at what they arrived at. Okay.
>> Okay. So second page on this one. anything special meeting. >> Yeah, for the special meeting >> public comment supported express bank. His name is Gray Gray Solomon and then >> is it G R A Y or G A R E Y?
>> G R A Y. >> Okay. Wait, what are we on? >> I think Okay. Are we on July 21st? >> Yeah. >> Oh, public comment. Oh, and it's
B O W L E S. >> Thank you. >> S is okay. Next page. >> Okay, good. We need to go back to the first page. Um
very under discussion topics very first bullet um where it says retirement benefits for former commissioners adjusted from 4,800 to 7200 it should say to account for an
additional commissioner retiring in November what was it 2024 cuz otherwise it just looks like we raised the retirement and that's commissioner retired 2024. >> Okay.
>> Let's move on guys because we're already an hour and a half into into minutes. So let's keep let's keep moving. >> So let's go to the last page. When Dixie conversion conversation discussion it was conversion >> conversion discussion.
>> Yeah. Um, we should mention state representative Johnson's just representative. >> I don't think that really makes a difference. We only have one. >> Yeah, it's just always
>> okay. Do we have anything else on this page? If not, >> right, I have a question. What is the correct spelling under dog safety concern? What is the correct spelling of clemetry? Is that correct? >> I think it's >> No, it should be, isn't it? O E M O N S.
And let's get the spelling before we try to guess. Spend any time on the guessing. So, let's get spelling on there. Okay. So, let's move on to the July 31st. >> Yes. >> Um I am
>> It is Clemens. C E O >> so it's an O. >> So July 31st. Anything on the first page? Going once, going twice. Anything on the second page? Okay.
Um third page. Fourth page. >> Fifth page. We're on July 31st. Thank you. >> Okay. I didn't see any changes on this one.
So, okay. Let's move on to August 5th. German says motion 4 p.m. special meeting immediately followed the military. >> Did we do that? Because I didn't seem to
find >> where we did the military. >> So, we need to probably add that one. I don't know what happens. I just >> And that might be where he actually spoke. That might be where he spoke to us prior to
>> So what we saying is that we have a minute for the workshop but not a special meeting for July 30th. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So we need July 30 special meeting minutes. >> Okay. August 5th we have a special
meeting. first page. >> Um, second page. >> Wait, wait. On first page, I have a question about that. Um, where it says also present were Nancy LJOY and Keith
Harris at this meeting because I believe Keith Harris spoke and it doesn't list him as being present. Um, >> I know he spoke to the um storm water issue
affecting John Tatum property. >> Okay. But Keith and Nancy Okay. >> I don't know if whether Nancy Joy was there or not. >> Okay. >> We'll just make sure that Keith was there. She It would not have >> Yeah. Yeah. Because
>> it's a state a broadcast member. mention that probably later on we'll talk about it. So, okay, let's go on to the second page. >> Okay, second page. Um, just the first
first paragraph talking about the draft letters intended to inform residents about the city budget process. Was it not also about and proposed millage rate? Wasn't that the main point we explained the mill rate? Um
>> I believe under the letter was primarily about >> yes >> well at that point we had not set the final millage rate so >> we had set the tenative millage rate so I don't know I think it might have been the city's budget process and millage rate setting
>> I think that's where you need to put >> and mill rate setting yes because the mill rate was a key reason for sending that out >> okay anything else on this page Um, if not, let's move on to the next page.
Anything on the next page? Um, well, it's just it says public works director Keith. It should say Harris. Okay. Um, next page. The one that has budget allocations. Yep. Okay. under Florida prime investment discussion
after the work commission. I don't think we need the word briefly just if we could take that out. Okay. Revisited prior authorization. Okay. Anything else on this page? If nothing, let's go to the last page.
Anything on this last page? Okay. August 12th Um yes on the first page under staff present >> general counsel county sheriff's office >> right because he's not really our staff
>> should at least say actually counsel >> right no my change was to say that he's general counsel for the Pman County Sheriff's Office but it says staff present and he was not really our staff um is a staff.
>> Let's mark him off completely. Let's mark him off completely. >> No, he is he is somewhat staffed because we we contract with the sheriff's office. >> As long as it says he's the sheriff's general counsel, I think that'll be good.
>> Add that in there. Okay. Second page. >> Okay. I have a question under announcements third bullet where it says ASA Health's Dental Office. Is that as or are they officially a or is that a
nickname? >> It used to be but they Okay, thank you. >> Um, and I have a question there was for the express appreciation. The library sent us a letter of thanks. Do we remember what that was for? >> We're giving them the money.
>> We're giving them 500 bucks. >> No, we gave them 300 bucks. Excuse me. We agreed to give them 300. Well, I have a question about that later. Okay. We did and they sent us a letter. Thanks. Okay. Um
Okay. And this um actually see where it says approval of minutes. >> Um this actually says some of the changes that were made which we just go over, >> right? Which we obviously went over. So at some point before we approve these,
we need to resend our prior approval for uh July that took place. What is this on August 12th? >> We've made these like public hearings. We changed that to public comments. You did the president fish.
>> Since we previously voted, um we should resend it. right now. I move that resend the minutes of July 10th voted on August 12th. >> You may send approval.
>> Present approval of the minutes. >> Okay. Do I have a second? >> I second. >> Okay. All in favor, please say I. >> Oppos? Nay. Okay. >> So move. Let's go on to number five. Public comment.
>> Did you have something prior? Okay, I do have a question about the first paragraph under public comment um says the 2024 audit was nearly complete, and then it says with all
audits current. Yes, because she stated it as if all of our audits were not current that we had much like other communities that we had ones that had not been within um and and and we have done those and the only ones
at that time that was due in June that we're currently working on but that's the current years. >> Okay. But hang on. I'm very I specifically remember those comments. >> Okay. But if we're talking about
August 12th and it's the audit for the year ending 2024, then it can't be correct because it was due June 30th. She tal we talked about that she made it when she made her statement, she stated as if we had
multiple years that were behind >> and we corrected and we corrected her on that. that the only one that we have currently pending is the one that we're working on, the 23 24, but all the other ones have been completed. >> Well, um,
it would make more sense to have to the word complete the period and say all prior audits have been completed. Okay, change that. Okay. Okay. What else you have on that page? Anything? Commissioner Laura, you have >> under presentations with the historic
survey update. >> Um, one of the bullets down there I think is identification of the DIA theater designer should be BIA. >> BIA. >> Yes, it's the improvement association. Yeah. Former
>> predecessor club and I'm the city post identity. We we're not firm capital. That's Pearson. >> That's Pearson. >> We're the B capital. >> Bass capital. Yeah. >> So, what did he say? He said that was cool. >> How does the >> I thought he said something about Fern.
I thought he did because I specifically remember it triggering me. Well, they were not, but I didn't correct. I didn't want to correct me. >> So, I do believe that's that's what he meant. >> Okay. Anything else on this one?
>> Yes. Um, under presentations, the very first line it says Mr. Weaver presented um I think we should say presented the completed and take out and update. He was presenting to us the finished
historic survey. So I would say presented be completed >> um >> national historic not national historic survey >> right and also um where it says recognizing contributors. Well that's not really right. Um
you can't um he completed an update is what he did right whenever it's okay. If you say he completed it of course it was is completed because it was completed 30 years ago. No, he this was a new
projecting >> right new survey >> what he presented was the completed update but when you go to the next line it said he recognized contributors Marjorie Neil Nelson she's it should say
the late >> the late Marjorie Nelson okay >> right and as well um take out and put Ron West, Commissioner Lori and others because he specifically mentioned Commissioner Lori and he
mentioned others. >> Okay. Um so I think that is very important and as well I would like to have included um that the survey update was funded by a small matching grant from the Florida Division of Historical
Resources. And I commended uh former city manager Charles Rudd who recommended that we apply for that grant. I thought it was important to recognize Mr. Rud. >> Okay. >> We can also add that it's available on
the website. Yeah. >> Did he did he say that? Because this is about what happened. I mean I actually commended a copy of it here. So >> yes. >> Okay. Let's move on to the next page.
Okay. Uh again, this is where we need it closed and opened um for the CRA. >> Yeah. >> Wait a minute for that. Um I don't
>> if you don't have it in your notes. If you don't have have it in your notes, we're coming up on two hours on that. >> I have and I have it in my notes right here. Um, first of all under key terms says contract term rejurers from 3 years to one year in order to maintain the same
contract amount. That was what that was for. And then the third bullet and it says maintain existing service levels. Um, I don't I would take out the one additional deputy for sure. I think that's just confusing.
Um and then where it says Commissioner Devito questioned the hiring and training clause, it was um the payment for hiring and training clause. The that clause is about payment. >> Okay. Hiring training. Okay.
>> The hiring the payment for hiring and training class. >> Payment the payment for hiring training. >> Right. I've never liked that. And then um the summary under sex ordinance draft ordinance 202512 um that is not the right description of
that ordinance. Um and I have a description. Um basically he wanted us to adopt the same ordinance as the county and he was asking all municipalities to adopt the county the
same ordinance as the county. That's what he was asking us to do. And then in the second sentence, he additionally discussed the potential for criminal enforcement of certain city ordinances. Um
it would be instead of criminal for PSO, PCSO enforcement of certain city ordinances by imposing criminal penalties for those vi for those violations. It's It's not all of our ordinances.
>> Well, it doesn't say all for certain for certain city ordinances. So, it doesn't say all city ordinances. So, I'm I'm comfortable with how it's currently how it currently reads if everyone else is. >> But the the ordinance the description of the ordinance that he's proposing asking
all municipalities to adopt >> the county or the same as the county. >> Okay. >> Right. >> Same actually to do same terms as the county. >> Yep. So it wouldn't be their their ordinance. It would be the same terms as the their right. And then this is very
important that this relates to he additionally discuss the potential for enforcement of criminal enforcement of certain city ordinances. Mr. Holmes provided some very important information that I think we should include. Says Mr. Holmes pointed out that for any criminal
prosecution of a city ordinance, the city would be required to pay for a public defender if needed. I mean, that's important. >> If everybody wants that added, do you want that added? >> I don't think it's necessary. Okay. >> I think it's important otherwise it's lost. >> It's not important. I just don't think
that we have to add it to these minutes. >> Well, then there's no record of it. And when you're reading about this, >> it's in the ordinance, >> but we haven't taken that up. >> No, it's not in the ordinance. There's no ordinance. >> There's no ordinance at this time. So, we haven't taken that up.
>> Okay. So it's about there's no way you >> commissioner I don't put words in in anybody's >> well that's your opinion but you're saying that that's as if she said that she didn't say that >> she just said that here because we don't currently have he just made he made the
comment to that >> it should be in the record because it's important information >> I'm going to move on we need to close and and open for the CRA business do we have anything else in downtown partnership renewal public hearing from
I don't think he married Rebecca. >> No. >> Okay. >> Okay. Wait, what number are we on? That was >> right. Yes, that's correct. >> Okay. Anything else on this page?
>> Um, yes. budget meeting date. We rescheduled it to September 10th. And that was at the request of who was it, the tax collector or the property appraiser? >> It was the property appraiser. >> Okay. The county property appraiser to
avoid conflict with other budget hearings. >> Okay. Um, >> okay. It says 708venue. >> And then the next thing down is an edge
report says Colbert Community Park phase one. >> Yeah, >> I believe that's supposed to be Colbert. >> Yes. >> Park and Ferat, right? FRDAP. And I'm not sure what a $100,000 no wastewater infrastructure grant is. Mr. Martin, can you tell us?
>> I'm sorry. I ask a question. It says under here it has city energy report. They were preparing a $100,000 no wastewater infrastructure grant. >> Yes, sir. What's a no no >> funding availability? Great.
>> But from what entity? I think >> Yeah, I was wondering >> that would have been through through state agency. I want to say it was either FEMA or or FD. >> I was just hang >> and that was for the wastewater.
>> I think you were talking about at that time that there was a possibility that FEMA was doing something for >> um mayor also if we could go back up to code enforcement lean reductions. Um it doesn't say that the code officer
presented them and it doesn't say that these were the recommendations of the special mood officer presented and recommendation from the magistrate. Okay. Um and as well under 12 city
attorney report it's China walk and also the very first uh bullet um was my understanding it's not an ethics complaint that's an employee >> yeah um and then on the next page
extension of the of the um the meeting so we don't have that when we extended the Let's move on to August 19th. I have something on the second page. Okay. So on the second page under staffing and
succession planning, first paragraph, second line should be Dave Frank. Um and I would put March 2026. And also in that paragraph, I don't think it's necessary to have the information in parentheses about why rem
might not be why two employees might be continuing >> with the with potential departures of personnel JT and take those that are in parentheses out. Okay? >> And and my suggestion is that we ask that we not share that kind of
information at future meetings. um >> how it >> I mean it's already happened but I'm just saying >> well it's it's it was stated so it's obviously the program picked that up so we'll keep that in mind as we go there okay anything else second page
>> um somehow sorry under three budget reviews oh my goodness yeah that means our alarm's up and I'm gonna have to leave so I'm going to
have turn this over because >> Okay. Sorry. Um I did not the commission reviewed the newly separated solid waste enterprise fund. That's not very clear. What did we We took solid waste out of the building utilities budget and put it
in its separate section of the budget. Sorry. >> Well, something was said about it, but um solid waste enterprise fund which has been removed from the
wasn't before building utilities. I think it rather than newly separated just take newly separated out and the solid waste enterprise fun. Okay, let's move on. >> Okay, anything on the next page? >> Okay, last page. Um, it says down here
adjournment was at 10:00 a.m. and that's when it started. So, we just need to get the accurate time in. >> Okay. Um and mayor going back to the prior page under budget review wastewater department that very last paragraph it says the commission removed
didn't we request the removal of the 10% repair and replacement I mean we just asked that it be removed from operating revenues >> yes >> but we didn't remove it I mean that's that's really a staff function
>> that's it's required right >> yes >> so orders. >> Yes. >> Right. If we could just say requested removal of >> Okay. >> Um on the second page, did somebody mention on this next page regulatory
issues? It says city manager Steve where it should be Derek Martin. >> Yeah. And then that same paragraph um the it does not say the city manager explained that the problem comes from
the proximity of the monitoring wells um to what is it? What are they? >> Yes. For um drain field >> well it's a drain field plus all the agriculture. So you got all those
phosphates that have run off those. >> But basically he was explaining the reason that we're so upset about this is the problem stems from the location of our monitoring wells and the penalty seems unfair because FD chose the locations for these monitoring wells.
>> Right. >> And I think we need to say that because that's what we're we're up against. We're we're in a a >> concern is stated these wells were placed. >> Well, the problem is >> let's give her some language. Okay. So,
we give language recommendation. >> The problem stems from the location of the monitoring wells and the penalty seems unfair because well location was chosen by FD.
>> Okay. >> They told us where to put them. >> Okay. Last page. We've already talked about that the time needs to be different. Anything else? If not, I'm moving on to August 28th. >> Did we ever figure out where when did the property appraiser see us?
>> No, we said that probably at that meeting where we set the tenative millillage that we do not have minutes for. >> Oh, okay. >> Okay. We've already talked about that. Go on to August 28th, 2025. Okay. The roll call says commissioner to start.
>> Thank you. But um also um the first line where it says city clerk conduct a roll call. I think you can strike everything after roll call. You don't have to say with the following members present. It's kind of confusing.
>> You know when you're doing this AI? >> Yeah. >> Are you doing a little bit of this AI? these notes these >> that's what the program is >> that's what the whole thing is that's why I gave some of this >> yeah abstract >> okay stuff it's not >> okay so this was all about when they
came in gave the presentation >> we know the correct we >> yes >> okay to mayor if I could in the paragraph under insurance presentation
Um it says the section covered presentations from um it's really two entities with proposals for the city's fiscal year 2025 26 liability insurance. They are not both brokers. >> Let's just put from two separate
insurance brokers. How's that? >> They're not both brokers. That's why it said entities >> insurance is not a broker >> regarding potential cost. Okay. Anything else on the next page? >> Under FM title last name is Den Den.
>> Yes. >> D E N A H A N >> and it's twice here. I think it's on the next meeting too. I looked it up on the website. >> And the next page, budget review and discussion. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a
minute. Um there were two items that I think were discussed on this page. the um Brown and Brown cost savings in part were from a 2% commission give back. We don't have to put that >> we don't have to put that in there. That's what
>> it's in the it's in the record and we if we get into that we've got >> there's a lot of Yeah. >> Um anyway, if you want >> we have their presentations. Yeah, we have the presentation. >> But and then another important note, it
was established that proposals came in lower this year. Primarily the cost of reinsurance is lower for everyone. That was the lower cost because I've had other communities tell me there's one app that both of them said that they
could provide lower >> proposals because of the cost of we have been fortunate. >> No. >> Okay. So let's go over to expenditure analysis. >> Do we have anything on that?
>> Where is that? The next page. Budget discuss decisions and next step final budget direction. Legislative priorities discussion. Um and then adjourn it. Okay, we're good. Let's go on to
September 8th, 2025. Um, right at the top, >> it's either under minutes. It's either workshop or meeting. >> Yes. >> Which one? >> Yes. >> I think we should we should take out a meeting.
>> Looks like we >> was a meeting or a workshop. >> Oh, wait. This was our regular meeting. >> No, this was not >> This was We did not vote on anything. This was a workshop. budget workshop meeting city.
>> So it's correct. >> Okay. >> So meeting should come out in the heading and meetings should come out the first line under call to order. >> Okay. And then under roll call u the same issue after city clerk. Don't need
that. Keep going. Um, I personally would put Marys at the top that she asked. >> Um, >> okay. Second page. Um, down towards the
bottom there was a concern and these really are well organized. Says, Commissioner Devito questioned whether the bidding process uh, could we please add up to award process and allowed? Okay. So add had there >> or something in the past 10.
>> Let's go to the next page. >> Um >> okay. >> Are we on number five? Community redevelopment agency. >> Yes. >> Okay. So wait, is this special meeting, regular meeting, workshop? Workshop. Workshop. Got to go.
>> Um very last paragraph discussion. um last sentence possibly by reallocating insert the word funds from because we'd be taking funds from commercial redevelopment and then delete
funds at the end. It's just line items >> or community redevelopment line item. >> Okay. Next page that says >> Hobbert. >> What number is that? >> That's under six. >> Yeah. for
Colbert Park. >> Oh, Colbert. Right. Right. >> Was previously distributed for a half grand. >> Yes. And then right above that, >> right above that, where it says equipment needs, is that's supposed to be clam truck.
>> Yeah, it's a it's a claw. It's a claw truck. Claw >> clam. >> Clam. >> Clam truck. Clam truck. >> It is a clam. Clam. Okay. I have no idea. It has a big thing on it. Yes. >> Okay. Just checking.
>> Okay. Next page. >> Anything on that one >> under adjournment. Um as this was it says anformational session. It was a workshop. I just put workshop instead offormational session. >> Just take the whole thing out. just take
out those little boats. Okay. >> Um well, and also the part about the commission will reconvene. We don't really rec >> Okay, let's go on to September 10th. >> Um before I have a question. >> Yes. >> Under here now it starts saying city
clerk signing it and the mayor, >> right? >> But before it was city manager. >> City manager and they changed it and probably the clerk because the clerk prepares these. So I think that's why it's and we'll just check on that. That was my understanding is because the
clerk, this is the clerk's work and that we've gone to that. I think that program is probably why it's going to that um well >> I just noticed correct >> um two people
>> it did it did change and it was um so we just need to make sure and mayor if I could it might be a charter issue because the clerk actually works for the city manager and the city manager is under the charter responsible
for all those types of items. I don't know. >> I'm sure we didn't put that in our I'm sure we didn't put that in our charter when we were doing that when we made it to the clerk. I don't think the minutes came under that. So, >> just who would check based on that who normally signs who's supposed to sign that?
>> Okay, let's move on to September 10th. >> Second page. >> Well, I have something on the first page. Um, I don't think it's really necessary to say the part about in the first paragraph held jointly with the community redevelopment agency.
>> Could we take that out? Held jointly with community redevelopment agency. We don't the mayor calls the commission meeting for I think that's plenty. >> Um, on the same page comments once again Tyler Dahan.
That's a really funny thing. >> Okay. >> Chief Aaron Eiffel. >> Yes. >> Is >> And that's my field. >> Right. And there's three >> three times. >> Three times. And if we could um going
back up to the top of the page, very first line, it says 2025 fall speaker series. >> FHS. >> That right. That should be FPHs from Fland Peninsula Historical Society. And then down in public comments, wherever
Tyler Denahan is, um I believe that should say FMIT representative is a personal public speaker. >> And as we go on through these, we've got some areas in here that do not have roll
calls that the actual roll calling that's required by us to have in our public hearing section for us to do roll calls. So we just need to make sure that this that it that it adds those in madam clerk for the roll calls. >> Yes ma'am.
>> And it doesn't have a time to be recessed for the >> right >> and I don't think it have time to be re >> regular commission at 720. Yeah. >> So it just needs the time. So it it I thought it did did it not have the time.
>> It just had it just said that it just had it said regular meeting recess for the CRA session. >> Okay. Does >> it page the fourth quarter payment partnership? It says approval of $12,900 payment.
>> Is it $12,500? >> I believe so. Yeah. >> Because it's like Anything else? If not, we'll move on to a September 25th meeting. Um, this one we had, we
don't have where we extended this meeting. So, we need that motion to extend this meeting. >> Where ma'am? >> Yes. >> Um, if you go Wait, are you already on the next meeting? >> I'm I've gone back. What do you need,
Commissioner Devita, on this? >> Okay. Whatever it is underneath on the page where we just changed the fourth quarter payment for the downtown partnership. Huh. That would be under the CRA. Okay. Under the CRA said we're making adjustments due to county roll
back rate adoption. Shouldn't it say mill roll back rate adoption? >> Um adjustments due to county millage. Yes. Okay. So >> mill roll back rate adoption. >> Roll back rate adoption. And then I believe we had amendments.
It says amendments, but it doesn't say who moved and seconded that to change >> um because this was >> right. >> Exactly. So, >> right. So, who did the motions for the
amendments? Okay. So moving on. >> Okay. So and under business items it says vintage market application. Okay. It says motion for more. Sorry that you know we were saying the motion should be
stated as it is. It's we're not doing that. Um let's see. Um I have a question about the utility on the next page. Utility service contract 131,732
for Lake Street Cypress Avenue work. >> Yeah, I didn't know what that was. >> What is that? >> Is that the water tower? >> That's the water tower as for the tree protection clause to be placed into it.
>> So that contract for the um water tower. Can we just put water tower at Lake Street Cypress >> Avenue tower? >> Okay. And then also um just under public hearings we had the resolution 202505
NIST cyber security framework. Is that something required by state law? >> Yes. >> Yes. Okay. It says adopted per um FS282. Um could at least say Florida statutes or
required by Florida statutes. Just adopted by Florida statutes. See it's required by Florida statute. That speaks for itself. So Florida statute. >> So just spell it out. Florida statute. Um roll call. If we go over here on the
next page, I think um again it's got the resolution 2025-06. Um who made the motion? There was a first motion that failed two to three, but we need to know who made the motion and who made the second motion that passed. And I think anytime we put in
there, if we if everyone's okay with this where it says 8.7164 mills, that's the roll back rate. the roll back based on roll back 8.7164 just so it's notated that that was the roll back for anybody looking at that >> it says roll back
>> um no when you go when you go further down when you go for adopted total budget based on 8.7464 that's I think we should vote on that >> oh yes >> okay and then actually I have I guess I voted for it that says I made the motion
for the city budget That's fine. Um and then um again the motion for um extension of time and who did the um adjournment? >> Okay. And then September 25th, guys,
we're on the last we're on the last one. Um, >> and the roll call has county sheriff's office attorney general counsel. >> Just put general counsel. Okay. >> Right. And then after um Keith Harris's
name, I think we can take out arriving later. >> We could change it. What did we call him? Kate. Okay. Anything on the second page? Um well on the first page under community
events the bullet um I don't think that that's exactly what she said. Rotary members were present selling tickets. We weren't really here selling tickets for swine of wine. >> Okay. Rotary members are selling tickets. How about that? Are selling. How's that? Selling tickets for swine
and wine. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Second page. It says that mayors confirm the city has ordinance for dogs sleeping in parks under section 2042 of the municipal code >> and as officials that sounds a real thing. >> Yeah.
>> Um just take section >> marks under municipal code. >> Okay. >> I don't remember section. Okay. >> Anybody else on that page? 2042. Um wait a minute. Yes. Under ordinance 202510 the budget amendment. Um,
>> I do >> I don't really understand >> I don't understand that what it says an unfavorable variance. What does that mean? >> I don't understand what any of that is
trying to convey. I I think we probably should take all that out. Despite certain deficit presentations, the general fund reflects a 219 surplus with an unfavorable variance of 28,000. >> Yeah. >> Favorable surplus. Doesn't make any sense.
>> That doesn't I just think that this is the this is the second and final reading. Yeah. >> Of ordinance 2025. And that's all that it needs to be on there. >> Um do we need to say that it's second reading? >> Yes. Sometimes starts to talk. So
>> I did not say this. >> So be very careful. >> Very careful. >> Anything else on >> just my question is did I did I vote for this? I have no idea. >> Does it's the budget amendment.
>> It's budget amendment. I believe you did vote for you did not vote for the roll back. >> Um and I don't I don't believe you voted for the budget the actual final budget either. >> I don't think I did. >> You did not. You voted against it. >> You know what? I apologize. The language that's in here is correct. B I was
reading it based on the budget amendment. So it it is actually factually correct. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So yeah. So it's just confusing. So let's take that out. Let's go to um reschedule amendment. Anything on that?
Again, I would if we could down here where it says ordinance 2025 final budget adoption um setting the millage levy at um 8 point at roll back 8.7164. >> You want to say roll back rate? Yeah. >> Rate
>> just like we did prior. >> Okay. >> Anything else on that one? >> Well, should it say second? somewhere. >> Okay, it does say moved on approval on second reading. Okay, we got a second reading in there. >> Okay. And then
um the next one, the sexual offender ordinance. Do we have anything else on this? >> I don't think so. >> No, this actually is the right description of it. >> Yeah, that other thing, >> right? Y I'm good with all of this on
that page. Is everyone good with the next page? We're pulling in for a landing, guys. I think everything on that one I didn't have anything. Did you >> at the very bottom when it talks about the invoice for the lawyer? It's the Chris Group.
>> K R I Z I Z N E R. Okay. >> Um and this was a um this was a reimbursement in it. Correct. So move to reimburse. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Commissioner Lori for and voice.
>> Okay. >> And then we've got adjournment. We need an extension. We had to have an extension on this one um as well because we went to 1020. >> Okay. Well, ma'am, besides the extensions under nine procedural
corrections, didn't we have to resend >> the prior didn't we have specific votes rescending our I did have to reconsider which is someone that voted for had to
make a motion to reconsider it. >> Um I think >> we had to pass it as emergency >> right but it doesn't say adopted. It says readopted. So I don't know we adopted the following as emergency ordinances.
>> I think we had to rescend them and then we had to declare an emergency. >> Okay. So let's let's just check on that. We actually did the first vote. If we did the votes, >> I'm not sure we did the votes.
>> I think we Yes. >> I think I think there was at least one additional set of motions. And then for the ones that we adopted, it doesn't say here who made the motion in the second for either
2025, 10, 11, or 9. Right. >> Mayor, don't you need to have a roll call for those? >> Yes. >> And she she kind of it kind of adds it because it has who who voted? But we actually need a roll call.
>> Yeah. For those. >> Okay. Anything else? >> And again, of course, I like I said, the motion to extend. >> Oh my gosh. Anything else? >> So, we've now resended our >> Yes. So now we just need a motion to
approve. >> We need a motion to approve um >> all of these. >> All of these. So I'll entertain a motion to approve. >> Um Madame Mayor, I would like to make a motion to approve the minutes of special meeting February 25th. The regular CR
meeting March 13th. Special meeting March 21st. Special meeting March 28th. The special meeting April 8th. The regular CR meeting April 10th. Special meeting April 21st. The special meeting April 22nd. The regular meeting May 8th workshop May 19th special meeting May
27th the workshop June 11th the regular meeting June 12th regular meeting June July 10th the measure workshop special meeting July 21st workshop July 31st the special meeting August 5th the regular and meeting on August 12th the
measure workshop August 19th workshop on August 28th measure workshop on September 8th the CR meeting a regular CR meeting September 10th and the special meeting September 25. >> I have a second. I have a proper motion and a second. Commissioners, do you have
any further discussion on this? >> Oh, we are not remembering being recorded. He said um absolutely no. >> Did he say what did he say? >> I'm sorry. Just want to make sure he said it. >> He said absolutely no.
>> Okay. With that, Madam Clerk, we do a roll call floors, please. Commissioner Devito. >> I, >> Commissioner Lorie. >> I, >> Commissioner Moore. >> I, >> Commissioner Burton. >> I, >> I. Okay. So, approved. >> Madam Clerk, thank you so much.
>> That was a lot of work. >> That was a lot of work >> in a short period of time. >> Greatly appreciated. >> Um, commissioners, I'm going to ask for you if you could get your um, evaluations to the clerk as soon as you can. So, we'll have those prior to the
meeting so we can have those um braided prior to the meeting. >> And is there anything else that anybody has? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay. I'm going to have to excuse myself. >> Um I have one item. >> Um it's a request for for funding. Um,
we have a couple of uh meters readers that are out the actual um the actual cell and those are about $250 I believe a piece. Um, and they come in 10 uh packs. So, it's about 2,200 uh about
$2,250. Keith has to order those in order to get those fixed. We're going to order 10 with approval now and I need to get another 10 after the holidays are completed. This is something that that is done every single year to make sure we maintain quality in our
infrastructure. Um I've given you all the account that it'll come out of and which is operating supplies within the water distribution fund. We have budgeted $50,000. Of course, we haven't spent anything out of that as of yet this and that is on this paper here.
>> Okay. So, what I see is um it says amount budgeted $50,000 remain $50,000. So, we haven't spent anything yet from this line item. >> Yes, ma'am. >> This would normally come from this line item. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Do we normally approve these kind of purchases?
>> Well, it is over $1,000. >> Um, I think there's an exception for in the operation of a department. We need to clarify what that means. >> But anyway, um, so and you're saying we buy these every year. >> Every year they're needed. >> Yes. >> Do we buy them?
>> He does buy them. and and and I'm and there is no price break. So, I'm telling him to go ahead and let's get 10 now and after the holidays, we'll get 10 more moving into the to the uh spring season, we'll see if we need any more. And most likely, we will. >> So, how many do you want us to approve
now? >> Total today, 10 and then also approving 10 for after the holiday. So, 20 total. >> Okay. 20. All right. So, >> at 200. >> Do we also need to have a motion finding that this is an emergency purchase? >> Yeah. I don't think I don't think we do.
>> It's operational. It was just >> you have to be careful if we do this and if we do this and this is operational. If it's operational, then we're setting a precedent here. >> Okay? >> So, let's be very careful. So, if we determine it's operational, then we need a motion basically to state that's an
operational expense and should be covered under the city manager and the um operations within that department and not necessarily an emergency because if you do it that way, you set a precedent. >> Okay. >> Okay. With that, guys, I so apologize. >> I have um
>> So, I'm late. >> Bye. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> So, Commissioner Lori, are you ready for a motion? >> I'm ready for a motion. >> Okay. So, I move that we approve the requests for
operating supplies from this is public works budget. >> It's under the water distribution funds. >> Okay. So that we I move that we approve the request for operational supplies
from the water distribution funds in the amount of what does that make $5,500 for the purchase of a total of 20 >> water are they watering the readers be
4,500 I'm sorry and $4,500 for what is the name of the item? >> Uh, you could just call them meters. They're going to be the meter reads, the digital portion of the meter.
>> Okay. For the meter reads. Um, and that's it. >> Make a second. >> Second. >> Is there any further discussion? >> Seeing none. Um, >> all in favor? >> All in favor, please signify by saying
I. I >> I >> all opposed. >> I sorry to say I motion pass. >> Thank you. >> Um >> is there any further business to be brought before the audience? Fine. >> Seeing none, >> I have one item and it's quick and we
don't need to make a decision. Um we have heard uh I just want to bring this up as something to possibly put on the agenda for um either one of our special meetings or in December. We heard from Chief Razer that our um fire department
staff has have had some very difficult calls that have resulted in um I guess um possible mental health difficulties or that just have been very challenging. And as well uh I think we learned from our city manager that some of our public
work staff um in addressing the aftermath of emergencies have also been subjected to very challenging circumstances. And I'm hoping that we will consider um recognizing and thanking them either
with um a certificate or letter of accommodation for the staff that have had to be exposed to those very difficult circumstances. >> And I was going to bring it up to you all um and ask if it was okay if I did a a certificate of of appreciation from
management if you all wanted to do something further accommodating them uh up here in public. That would be something that that you all can certainly pursue. >> I'm not asking for a decision. I'm just saying can we put this on an agenda? >> Yeah. >> My my feeling though is also we don't
want to make it too much of a I don't know a public recognition. So if they're still going through we don't want to put them on display. Correct. Um maybe a letter of accommodation or something just a private >> do the letter. >> Yeah. Yeah. too. I think
>> and even the certificate of appreciation I think might sound a little corny, >> right? >> Yeah. Just something for me service or just for going above and beyond and >> Okay. >> Um and I don't I'm my feeling is shy away from the public.
>> Yes. >> Well, while we had talked about it, Chief Razer, myself, they know that this is what they signed up for. This is their work. But just so you all know, um, in 2 weeks, above and beyond the normal call, uh, they had a motor
vehicle crash that was a trauma alert. Um, Razer and Demaduke came on that scene and Eric, they had a pediatric cardiac arrest. Um, they responded, Captain Pope responded, Pope responded alone and was doing CPR alone for a period of time trying to keep that
person um, alive. the second pediatric trauma cardiac arrest in south in the south. Captain, Eric Smith were by themselves for 15 minutes or 10 to 15 minutes um before further help arrived. And then we had a unfortunate suicide by
gunshot that Chief Razer andlair went to. We had a first stabbing on the north end. I forgot the name, but it's outside of Crescent City, but they respond to that. Um, and that was actually Razer andlair. Uh, or I'm sorry, that waslair,
Eric Smith, and Kate Eisen, which is a new, uh, volunteer. Uh, second stabbing we had, and this was outside city proper, but they uh, they responded was Captain Poe or Captain Pope, Captain Demaduke, and Eric Smith. And then we had a second unfortunate suicide by
gunshot, but that was Demaduke, Eric Smith, and public works personnel. So, and that's all happened just in the last two weeks. And that's a lot for anybody. So definitely want to do something for them. >> Yeah. >> And we can discuss that. I can put together a letter that can be routed and
signed by everybody. >> I think my feeling is that's probably most appropriate. >> Okay. Something that, you know, quickly filed and just something to recognize from stress. I mean, just listening to you talk about it. >> Wasn't there an ATV um accident? That
was the first cardiac because or accident trauma. Yes. >> Yes. >> Which resulted in death. >> Yes, it did. >> Right. So, and I just may I think Vice Mayor um just um I I agree with Vice
Mayor Lori that it should be short and sweet and avoid any mention of any distressing individual circumstances because they've been distressed enough. Yeah, >> just a a letter of appreciation for something like above and beyond and
meeting extraordinary circumstances. >> Okay. >> And anything else? >> I have nothing. >> I will entertain a motion to >> Oh, I move that we adjourn this >> second. All those in favor say I. All
right. >> Thank you very much. You're >> welcome. Yes. I