was a record. That's the shortest meeting we've ever had. Uh today we uh is uh May 28th. It's just after 9. Uh this is the blue ribbon
committee on the Miller Middle School. uh and we all present except for Nancy Taylor who is excused and and with that we'll go to uh the approval of the minutes. Um Nancy
had us by changes. Um we did receive an email from Miss Taylor um with her corrections and her approval
of the minutes. With that in mind, I move that we approve the minutes as they are presented to us with the corrections on Second.
All those in favor? I I I Any nays? No nays. Uh the the uh minutes are approve from January to May 19th. And so next on our agenda, uh
John, any update on the school? Well, uh, at our last meeting, I was asked to contact Superintendent Rick Stury [Music] regarding a
possible old issue that might start coming in the older building. Number one, because of the rainy season, uh, I did talk with him. He basically gave me the same reaction as before. He said he
didn't see how the school district could take money from an active school and put it into a school that has no students. I I said I understand that but it is an issue. Is there anything that
can be done? He said well I don't know at this point. I said if we came up with the funds, would the school district
uh put it in? He said he would look into I told him the last time it was about $5,000 was the estimate. He said he would look into it again and he didn't see a problem with that if the community
could come up with the funds. And I also told him that the city was going in the process of applying for a grant relating to the older buildings. Uh Reg was coming up with
some recommendations and that there might be a request for a letter because the school district being the owner of the property. He said he looked forward to the cris to the request and would supply
a letter to the city as the city leader. So I don't know if that's been done or not. So that's where I that's that's my report. Thank you, John. Any questions for John?
uh title of opinion report. We uh we're going to delete that from future agendas, please. Absolutely. EJ, you don't see any reason to keep it. Thank you.
Uh the reg report, do you I was hoping for an updated report. Um I I received the a link to the final report after we had the meeting. Um that
was last week. Feels like it was a little bit outgo um when after they did the draft and you know over Zoom I got a a link was sent to Christina which I thought was distributed to us that had
the final report on it. When I pulled that up, I I saw the earlier date, I think, of of May 21st. So, I assume that it was not the most current update. Um cuz when I when
I told it up, it had it just said it was, you know, edited that day or the day before or something. So, it was only a day old. Um, and I we can get the the the updated thing, but I I have an email here that the clerk sent
out, commissioners, as you requested, I include a download link to the final MEP structural assessment report. That's just that part. But that download link is weird. It doesn't really Yeah,
it's not. But there's there was another one that goes to one drive and it had updated reports. Oh, it did? Yes. So, you might need to just click on it because it's in the same place that the old link was cuz they just put it on there or you know
updated it and I don't have it on here. I don't know where it goes, but I don't I have I downloaded the updated reports now, but I have not compared them that they were the dates on them were updated. They were more recent.
Okay. So, it's there. We just have to look I believe so further forward. So, are we saying that the the RA report is finished? I believe I believe it's finished. Um, I'm going to find out just a
second. May 22. Yeah, May 22nd. I got a link that said final package and let's see what it says. Yeah, it says it was 6 days ago. So the day it was sent to me was the
final report and it's got the there's three reports in the in the one drive link and um one was May 14th which was the uh I think that was the structural report. Yeah.
Do we have any uh figures? Yeah, I believe they're in there. Um, yeah, there's the structural report that is dated May 14th, but that hasn't been there's no update to that. So, I think that might be where the confusion
is because that was the engineers report and I don't think any of that has changed. Um, then there's the other two links that are the as built conceptual stuff. Um, which they I think they made some changes to like we had asked them
to. And then um Oh yeah. So it's it's done. The final report is available. So uh I would like to to suggest that
the one report that's been updated that that be sent to to each of us by itself. Okay. Can that be done? Um it is very it's it's a large file. I can send I can send out the link to you. Um
Well, that would be easier, wouldn't it? The link. Yeah. Yes. Okay. It's 53.3 meg. So, it's it's large. You can't the link would be fine. That would isolate it. Okay. Thank
you. Well, that's the generally correct. Yeah, there's there's three there should be three files in there. Um, and it has the dates next to it. It should have the dates when they were last updated.
Um, forward. Nancy, if I forward this to the clerk email, can you Yes. Yeah. I I've just tried to uh to open the link and I'm getting weed transfer.com. Yeah, that's that's not the right link. That's not the right
link. There's it's a it's a link. It says final report and I will Oh, I see. Yeah, it's not Yeah, final package. It's not a link. It'll go to It'll open a little directory in one drive on SharePoint. So, that's what you
want. Actually, I think I have a Zemo. I can do it. Well, I can't. That's our either. Is that your email? Is it your email? RCW32. Well, anyways, thank thank you, Commissioner, for doing that for us. I'm
doing it right now. I got I got everyone's email. other side of that. I think once we get the report, we need to start looking at it as to what
is necessary to make the building usable, what might be part of a wish list on their part. Yeah. Um, these people are historical preservationists and
and you know their their cost estimates and stuff like that are to basically rebuild the building to almost brand new but you know with historical elements in place. If if that's their b it's not going to work. But that's the
bottom line is, you know, you could build a whole new school for what they're recommending. Yeah. Clearly they they've done an excellent job in their detailed reporting on the physical condition. Uh
they are uh their figures also represent the most finest rebuild possible. Yeah. And uh all the Yes. Like any Anyway, like any uh
the committee or the city or whomever will look at it and see what's necessary and what's wish one point they recommended an elevator. Yeah, I just don't think an elevator is is
appropriate. Well, not at this time, but they've done a good job and now it's our job like anyone's gotten a large proposal to cut it down. It's a very wealth and handicap access. Yes. Elevator would be nice, but
you're looking at a very small elevator around $115,000. Uh we looked into it at the church and that was about as cheap as we could find an elevator. And those are and those are kind of
and like I say, there's ramps, there's everything down there where you can reach every part of that building except the basement. And if you get to the point to where the basement needs a lift, you can put in a very inexpensive lift on the north end of the building
right next to the steps that just goes up and down. But we used to have one out at the gym where we had to lift people up to get them into the gym. And they're not expensive at all. Yeah. Well, clearly the elevator uh
shows a line item that will be one of the least priorities. Yes. it may never come. So, well, and like Ron said, you know, if you need to have ADA access to the
basement, I don't really foresee that being an issue that, you know, we're not going to be using the basement for anything publicly oriented, you know, in any time probably in the future or at least in the near future, you know, sometime down the road possibly. But I mean, I
think the basement I I mean, I don't want to be going out of the basement. Um, and I think that we can there's uses that we can utilize without having to have an elevator. Um, well, that is that's exactly the point. There are other
alternatives and that exists. So, um, well, very good. Anyway, we look forward to the report. We know they've done a lot of great detail work and when we see the report we'll go from
there. Yes, we'll start working. Hey, um I I need to contact them because their numbers are Yeah, the grand total numbers on here. It says uh the low end is 15,242,500. The medium is
7 and the high is $105,000. So I think there's some zeros missing in there. For what? The grand total for the whole school. Four five buildings. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So there's there's some zeros missing though. I don't think we can do
it for $75,000. Well, we hope we can. Yeah, that would be but especially when building five is 3 million on its own. I don't think that adds up to $75,000. So that's interesting. Yeah, of magnitude. Yeah, three zeros
missing. Um I mean I do like the moment the total is 15 million. That that's that's doable. That was the high. That's the low. That's the low. Mhm. But they they had recalculated some
things and I guess when they recalculated I think they they messed up because it says that the prop overall proposed renovation for all five buildings is 61,000 square ft. But I thought I thought we were calculating
out something like 80,000 wasn't once we do that we need to see what's in that figure. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just I'm just looking at it right now and I think yeah numbers are I mean if the figure is too high it's
impossible. No, but I mean the figures are way too low. I mean it's not $75,000 total. Well, we can assume they're off by three orders in three zeros there. So rather than trifle over that move to J's point. Yeah. Ron, um I
don't since Christina's not here, I guess I can fill you in on what happened at the our special meeting yesterday. Um I think we've come to the conclusion that Christina has reached out to the the grant writer that was suggested to us by RUG. Um she has not got a
response. I don't know why. Um or if she has tried to contact again and reach out, I don't know. Um but we are on we are up against a really hard deadline and that's Monday 5:00 pm. Um the commission last night just didn't even
entertain the idea of actually applying for the grant because one we need to have $62,000 $62,500 in cash as part of the match. there needs to be uh in kind
labor and stuff to make up the other 25% of the 25%. Um we couldn't we never got a recommendation from RG as to what to spend the money on. I don't know why Christina has followed up on that. Um but she did not as of yesterday. Um we
don't we don't have staff to write a grant. It's and I was going to try to help Christina. We I don't think we need it done. we needed to have letters of support. Went to get the letter from the school district. Um on the last night of the meeting, they said, "Well, the school board's not going to meet till
June." I'm like, I didn't think it about school board school district was going to do it. The certain certainty was um but I just don't know how we could get it done. I mean, if I worked on it every day for the next 3 days, I don't think I could still get it done. It's just too
much. And I mean the the deadline just came up and without a permanent city manager and everything else things just kind of got and more holiday messed everything up and Rachel being out of town and me being out of you know
commission like it won't happen on this round. Yeah because I mean they but it was tight schedule. Yes it was. We we uh we were going to approach Paul Weaver on it. Well, she approached Paul Weaver and what Paul Weaver um suggested was doing
the small matching grant because there's two different programs that the state of Florida does. The Department of Historic Resources. There's the small matching grant which is up to $50,000 and it's called a matching grant because we're an RI in a main street community. We don't
have to do the match. So, it's $50,000 with no match. Then there's the special category grants and those are the ones that are up to a million dollars. Those are the ones that um you know Rick Gonzalez is on the the historical commission that approves um and those
are you know like Hastings Main Street is doing the high school there. They have that one they have they're in there for this year for a million dollars and that's like a two-year cycle too. So you get the million dollars and you have you have two years to spend it basically and make it all happen. And that that
process to do those grants is way more complicated than the $50,000 grant, obviously. I mean, it's But but that was the grant that we were going to go Yes. hoping to go after. So, yeah. So, Paul's reason not to pursue it was because of
the timeline. Yeah. I I think just too short of a time. Yes. He's helping us with he's helping us do the right. So, we should start the process soon for next year, right? If that's what Yeah. And you know, there
there's going to have to be, you know, like even the $62,500 is on the low end. That's what is required for you to have the cash and then the rest of it you to make up your match. So, usually it's a 50% match on the big special category grants. Because we're
an REI community, we can do 25% match. But that's still if you're doing a million dollars, it's 250,000, but you only have to have a quarter of that. So 25% of 25%. That's where you get the $62,000. Charles and I went around and around about this before. And so, but
you can do the rest of it with staff time and inind work and that kind of stuff. But you still have to calculate all that out and have it on the schedule and have say what you're going to do and then keep to it. And that's what do you what when do you recommend that we [Music]
uh we start with that process? Well, I I mean I think we should keep, you know, keep pursuing it, but we need to find a grant writer that knows how to do this. I got a real honest to God grant writer that Jen the commissioner are are grant writers that the city currently works
with the two there is there some are you saying there's some someone possibly better or experienced I I think that we we need to find someone that deals with these kind of grants specifically like the woman at RG um suggested well therefore
I because of the June 1st deadline I can see why she Sorry, we didn't have time to call. Yeah. Back. Yeah. Yeah. They gave us they give us money, which is June 2nd. But, you know, June 1st is usually the we're still doing Paul Weaver. We're doing the grant that he
suggested, the $50,000 one. I have to help Christina on it. That's a much shorter process. I've done it the last two years, Charles Brown. And that one is not that's child's play compared to the other one. Obviously, we need to depending on money, too. But, you know, the one thing that during that meeting
last week that um Brian Moore said is that, you know, you can replace the the roofs on the two buildings, four and five. Well, they're not historic buildings. They're not old enough. So, you can't get a Department of Historic Research Grant and use it on a non-historic building. And both of the
building or all three of the other buildings that are historic have a new roof. Basically, that metal roof is there. It's going to last. So I mean we needed to get I mean obviously we know building one has needs a lot of work but we need to have a specific project like doing you know electrical or doing you
know something like that and have a cost estimate and we didn't have to have bids I think from a contractor to put to that there's no way we can get that in time the those two uh buildings with being
re- roofed with metal roof as we discussed that day the the shingles that are on now are only 20 years old. So, realistically, they they should last another 10
years. Um, unless they bought a very poor asphalt shingle, but I I my stepfather's view on being a roofing person in Florida, uh, 30-year shingles do not last 30 years. I mean, I know that I mean everywhere else they
might, but not in Florida. They last about 20 is the max. And I I mean I've been looking at that roof on the media center and it's it needs to it's going to need to be replaced soon. And that is older than the now that's older than the cafeteria roof because when they added
and renovated the cafeteria in 2006, might I suggest we're getting into too much detail? Yeah. Yeah. So um um All right. [Music] Um, anything more on R?
They are going to be here in June at our June commission meeting to present the report to the commission. Remind us what date that is. Oh, 8th I think. Do you know that? Um, there
[Music] is 12th. Yeah. Yes. And and Rick has been actually here to present this what is planned. Mr. Chair, on the issue of hiring a grant writer, is the city prepared to
pay the grant? I mean that that was what at our last commission meeting what we had asked to find out to see what the cost would be but obviously without getting in contact with the grand writer we've been you know I I think it's something that we
could you know I don't know I I mean you've seen the how the commission has responded to requests for the school in the past Um, I find that the most troubling
aspect of this rather than any deadline. I don't think the June 1st deadline is ever realistic to be honest. I don't think any of us believe that. But in hiring a grain rider is something that we have to have assets to draw from.
Well, at at yesterday's special meeting, it really wasn't discussed because there wasn't a proper uh contact with a grant writer or a proposal. So, there was really nothing on that larger grant for the city to uh
consider um uh going forward. Um it is a very important point and one that I think we should press on uh with uh when um PJ when is the budget uh when
does that process start? Um right now the department heads are putting together their requests. We will start having workshops in June. Um in fact we covered that you know Nancy when we were having our first workshop not off the top. I know that um Steve presented a
schedule or you know a rough schedule for workshops and I can look it up and see if I can find it. So our timing is is now and the immediate need is to get some sense is to find a grant writer that can do the
quality report and then get a price and then submit a budget request uh to the city. Would you agree commissioner? Yes. I mean, even even a round number, a guess, really would be sufficient just to be able for us to budget it and see
if we can fit it in there. Because if we get it in the budget, then it's really um less of a a fight later on because if it's a line item in the budget, it's basically approved. Exactly. Yeah. So, you're right that the time is now
for that. And if we can get it in the um beginning of the line item in the budget, that would be great. Here's the schedule. Sorry. Um the first like uh commission budget workshop it looks like is in July. Um
when is final uh approval required? Um it will have two we'll have two meetings in September. So it'll be the the regular meeting that we usually have on the second Thursday and then we usually have one two weeks later in September. And that's when the final post approval
is. we have to do it twice. Um, and it's advertised in between. So September because October 1st is the beginning of the fiscal year. So the end is towards the end of September. Yeah. But I mean the earlier I mean it's it's the workshops are when it matters. So when you're when we're doing the workshops
and we're discussing and we're adding things up and we're trying to make it all that's when it really is important to get that those items in because by the time we get to September everything balanced, everything is budgeted. Everything adds up. And like I always tell people, you know, it's kind of late
to be complaining about something in the budget or not being in the budget because at that point we've spent hours and hours making it all work and, you know, balance out. It's at the beginning with the workshops. That's when that stuff has to be in there so we can try and accommodate it. So what I would suggest then is that it's going to be
the end of the summer before we can even know whether we have a budget to hire a grant writer and that grant writer is going to have to be on the ball in October to meet next year's grant deadlines. There's a lot of work putting that together. The only thing that we
can do in the meantime is to sit down and figure out what the priority is for the individual repairs and individual buildings. That's right. which buildings in groups, which ones we build. We'll take it. Yeah. Move through this
report and make some hard decisions about what's realistic and move from high priority to low priority. So, so that we can get a grant writer started in good shape because there's no time to waste. And I
really and if if the blue ribbon committee can find a grant writer and suggest one to the city commission and have that bring a cost, you know, to the the commission, that would be very helpful, I think, because that would definitely help move things along in the right direction because, you know,
obviously it's it's a little difficult for the commission to get this stuff done. Well, and also in in management of the city, it were the city is in a transitional Yes. period. So it it may be more helpful for us to pursue. I
think so. I think that would be the best course of action. And our new city manager starts Monday. So we're all excited. Yes, I am. Would you say he has grand writing
experience? Um I don't I I would not I wouldn't make that assumption. That's what I thought, but I've I've not seen his resume. But I mean, he does have a a large amount of experience in uh utilities and estimating and doing
construction projects, that kind of stuff. So, I mean, his his Yeah, he might have some um at least be able to add something to the conversation. He can absolutely contribute to the grant process, especially when it comes to the utilities. That's one of the things that, you know, if you notice or looking
at the report, um the electricity is all a mess. You know, it comes in at three different places and goes in they're all boxes that are way past their life and all that stuff and that whatever situation we get.
Yeah. But I I strongly suggest that we focus on the recommendation of RNG for they've already handed us Yes. with all in touch with that person. I mean, we're being handed a really good reference, right? I mean, and that's why that's why
we had the report commission was so we could get all this information. I really wish we had been able to do the other four buildings, but they are we know there are newer um and I believe that in the next few months I might be
able to approach Rick BS, the architect across the street here that owns the People's Bank. He he talked to me and and offered his assistance because he actually has the 3D scanner himself like they used on the rest of the buildings to do the plans and so I don't know if
we could convince him to do it gratus but he might be able to do it for much less than what RG was going to be at least we could have because we don't have plans for any of those buildings there are no as builds I mean now there are for RG had them done but those other
well what can I to your point which is well taken with a valuable resource. Yes. Within our city volunteer to help and we have an architect another architect as well being um um let's
Frank has offered to help us as well. So I mean those and those are serious offers of experienced people that have you know very valuable knowledge. It's been clear all along what the community wants. Yes.
Yes. And I'm often approached by our neighbors what the status is and and with they're all with great hope. Okay. Anything more on RG? I don't know,
but I'd like to make a couple points. We talk about doing this and all these updates and u grants and things, but at what point are we officially going to see whether or not we're going to acquire the school?
We're going to require we're going to acquire the school. Yeah. If we approach if we're ever allowed to approach the school board and they say, "No, the only way you can get it is pay us $4 million." And we've done a lot of work
for nothing. Didn't we just witness the city's rejecting an offer of taking it for $100? I've never heard about that, but I know we need to approach the city to get permission to approach the school board
and present our case and see if they're going to accept our terms for taking over the school. The other point would be I think at this point we need to have the city start contacting people to see if we can get
people to commit to be partners in this project instead of waiting till the last minute. I think that would go a long ways toward convincing the city commission that this is a good project and to do it is if we have people signed
up Johnny Morris, uh, uh, St. John State University, St. Augustine Tech. Uh I I think we need to proceed in that direction rather than spending so much time
on doing something that we don't own yet. Yes. And and there has to be an agreement for that to happen, right? And not a contract. An agreement. What What's the status of that agreement?
Wasn't that in There you go. works. The commission, you know, did retain Charlie Douglas. Um, he was instructed not to do anything unless it was at the direction of the city manager. Um, and so the city manager has not, I believe, instructed
him to do anything because the city commissioner has not instructed the city manager to instruct him. It's um it's a simple thing. Yeah, it's I you know, we could have we could have
a vote tomorrow on the commission and we would win probably 3 to two. But this is something that's going to require votes after votes after votes. Every time we go, we establish a contract, we find, you know, a tenant,
we approve a grant, any of that stuff. And I don't know about you guys, but I don't have the energy to fight that fight every single meeting. It's already worn me down for the last year. Well, I don't like continuing. Well, but I mean it it would be an uphill battle every
single meeting and every single time even but it must be done. And so uh we need to pursue. But I I think that Ron has a valid point that we we at this in
the short term we need to pursue um how and when it can be acquired. As I I told you before, I talked to a former superintendent and she stated that if Rick wants to give us the
school, he can. He has that authority. even if it's for $1. But once we get that, I think we need to have partners lined up that have committed that they'll go into this with us. Otherwise, the commission's looking
at roughly $150 to1 to $150,000 just to maintain the school until they can get grants to do something with it. And I don't know how we can get a grant on something that we don't own.
And the flip side of that is I'm not sure how we can um attract partners without some type of commitment of ownership. Right. Well, I'm sure I they're not going to commit to putting
money into a project unless we acquire it. But at least we can get their uh okay that they would if we own the school. Yes. have something else something to that effect. [Music] Yeah. Well, this has been the problem
from the beginning. Yes. It's a catch 22. Yeah. We we've been brainstorming without any authority and the city is reminded that this would be something the city would have to do. Some have a formal letter that the city sends out either that or authorize us to do. Yeah. Which they haven't done or the other.
That's my main point. The city has to do it. We can't do it. Yeah. That's where we are. Well, And I think we all emphasize it every time we talk about it. Yes. And may I bring up a an
idea or a point? Um if the Ron's point is very well taken. The city doesn't have $150,000 a year to cover the operating cost. We've tried to break it down and make
it, you know, try and make it work on paper. If we transfer city hall there, the cost that runs this campus there, I mean, I even have breakdowns of the tax benefits that there would be to selling this property putting on the tax rules. I don't know if any of that's been sway
the commission. I just think that they they don't and when I say they, I don't mean all of us, but there are people on the commission that don't have the vision or the the ability to see what I see and what we see as far as potential.
Um, I think that there is another option and that, you know, is the city gets out of the way and the county takes the property. Um, and I think that that at this point
might be as as bad as it feels to say that might be the best option because we can work with the county as a partner. We've already said that we were going to work with them as a partner, but instead us being the the master tenant or the master owner, see if Pep County will do it and then we can work with them on the
buildings that we want to use. Um, it's re still relocates the hall there as a partnership. Um, I believe that they are fine covering the operating costs. They have much deeper p pockets than we do. Um, I think that, in fact, I I'm pretty sure that
they are waiting for us to make a move before they do. They don't want to steal it out from under us. But at this point, I don't know if that's if that's not the best idea because I really don't feel like we are getting anywhere. I mean, obviously, we haven't even talked to the school district since January. I mean
except for John and every time we tried to reach out we got rebuked by the mayor or by the commission I personally was told to stay in my place and even when I was talking to St. John's you know Joe Pickkins who was a close dear friend of
mine and I was told that I shouldn't have approached him um but you know so we were being told that we can do this and we should do this as an advisory board and then when we do advise they don't listen. So, as much as it feels like
um we're we would, you know, be giving up, I don't think that's what it is. I think that I just think right now the best path forward is to talk to the county and let the county come in because I think they they they're ready to move on it.
Um I think commissioner you bring up a very valuable point and um what I particularly like is that you you're putting out another option um giving us options and and um perhaps
uh the best for success. Uh so I I agree that that's an avenue that we should we should explore. And I just think that that's that seems to be the best path to a goal. And
if if as you say the county is ready to move on the property, then I quite agree. I I think your advice is heartwarming and heartfelt and I agree completely. We've all seen the the path
that this thing is taking. We our mandate I think this committee was formed and correct me if I'm wrong for the purpose of researching options for the future of that school property. Um this would fall squarely
under that mandate. We're not in a position to make commitments. We're in a position to research options. Yes. If the county already owns the property, then that's a major step
that's unnecessary. Yeah. And then it does make it easier for us, you know, as a city to see our project go forward kind of and not be responsible for the entire bill. Um, and
I really honestly with all I mean I've been talking about this and fighting for this for three years now at least. And every day I get up and think about this every day. I don't even thinking about this. And I really don't want to to kind
of take a backseat, but I don't think that we're going to get there with the city driving to to make some metaphor. But and as you say, Commissioner, there there possibly a better option. But I
think it's important at this time, too, that we we all recognize what you've done on behalf of this. We have great regard. I appreciate what you guys have done. You've been here and every, you know, two weeks. Um I'm kind of
supposed to be doing this. You guys don't have to. So, I appreciate that. And we've come a very long way. we think about almost a year ago when we started this um where we have a lot of information that we've gathered that even if we're not the people that take
over the school is going to help those that entity if it's the county or somewhere else um because we've done all so much you know background and research and we already know where you know the power lines from all this stuff that's
in this report and the title issues and all that um we've given somebody else a good jump on everything. And I hope that that's what ends up happening cuz I still want the property. And I mean really ultimately my biggest concern is
what happens to that property. And as long as it is retained in a community service and a community facility that helps the community and doesn't become a black hole like it's been for four years now. That's my biggest, you know, that's my that's my goal. And if the city can
be a partner in that, that's great. But I just want it to be something. And I think that this is is the best the best option right now. I I agree. Mr. Chairman, are you in a position or is the committee in a position to entertain
a motion to authorize Commissioner Lord to approach the county to discuss the ideas that he has proposed at this meeting? Uh yes, certainly. So move. Is there? Thank you. All those
in favor? I I I those motion passes. Thank you very much. So I will um continue forward and talk on beh not on behalf of the city but on city
commission but on behalf of BRC. Feel free commissioner to call on any or all of us to go with you in these negotiations and we're only a phone call of course. Yes. Thank you. Keeping in
mind we don't want to violate sunshine sunshine and it's not negotiation. I'm just I can't negotiate. I can talk conversation conversation. Yes. All right. Moving on. [Music]
Um, we have old business before today. We have the uh asbestous report. Um, we've seen this previously. Yes, we have. Yes. Um, well, it's nice that we have another
copy of it and I appreciate it. And it should be on our on our list of documents on file. [Music] Um, and when we have the final reg report, that should be last
listed including our list of documents on file as well. Any other old business and and just to mention that this is a very good report. I mean they they tested I believe 400 different
surfaces and stuff in that school um in preparation for demolition and there was only like 11 or 12 that have any sort of fryable material which is means that you know kind of airborne and I actually talked to my stepfather about this. He
is a a certified asbestous remediation contractor and um he said that you know that's everything that's there is not a big deal. It's like in the tiles and then some some glue. So I mean everything because I mean those kids
were in that school for years. So they weren't going to have I think the only thing that might be a problem is there might be some pipe insulation in the attic or in the basement I think and that is like in that whole school I think the only thing that would be of any concern and that's fine if you don't if you leave alone you know so I think
that that's a great news because as he as he told me you know people use that as a excuse you know or a boogeyman asbestous you know it's like they've they had to mitigate a lot of that a long time ago. to have kids in that school. Either it encapsulates it like I
think there's some in the ceiling of the auditorium, but that's why they have a drop ceiling in there. It's been encapsulated and sealed up, right? Is that correct, Rob? Is that sound right? I think it's all but it's all, you know, it's all safe and even for demolition,
which we don't need to worry about, but Well, it's great news. You're correct because uh in in 1990 I did a number of guest rooms uh speestous group removal and it it was my first time. It was amazing. So we had to seal off each room
individually. Uh we had to create um an entry um with a um a portable shower. Yeah. And and then the the debris had this is in Broward County had to be sent
to a special uh site in Day County. Yeah. Yeah. And that was in 1990. I can only imagine what it would be today. Yeah. There's a whole process, but really even then it's it can be expensive, but it's not impossible. I
mean, it's something that I think money can't take care of. Well, what what Terry Turner said was that he was doing the replacement of the windows at the at the courthouse and there was asbestous in the window lining I guess or the window um the window frames and
so he just had to learn how he wasn't going to pay somebody. He learned how to do it himself and then you have to take, you know, tape it up and you're like a spaceman going in there and taking it and packing it all up, but it's not it's not the end of the world, you know. It's just people like to say it and it sounds
scary, but it's it's just something that asbesus is a great thing. It's very it's fireproof. It is a miracle when I first found it because, you know, you can do all kinds of stuff with it. As a sighting for a home, it lasts forever. Yeah. Yeah, you just have to paint.
It's it's very very durable and and very nonflammable, which is a good thing. So, we just didn't realize that, you know, it'll kill you after you breathe it in. Anything else under business? Moving on to agenda. Any any
comment on agenda and next meeting date? Let's check the 10th. June 10th, our usual is 9 and day. It's 9 a.m. Okay. I'll be in Georgia.
Well, have a good time in the mountains. No, my brother's 87th birthday. Oh, my June 10th. Is that right? Yes. Well, you'll be missed. Okay. That's going to be at 9:00 in the
morning. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Because we do have tree and garden that evening. Oh, that's it. That's where if you told me a year ago I would be going to a meeting every two weeks at 9:00 a.m. I would have laughed in your face.
You're a true warrior. It's Rachel that's the true warrior. Said home asleep. She just got home from Pittsburgh last night. So did Archie go with it? No for me. He he was happy to see her though.
Is there a motion to adjurnn? Is so move. Second. We are ajourning. Thank you everyone. Thank you for our fine audience. All right. Thank you.