i didn't know that [Music] call this meeting to order Thank you all for joining us this evening Um the date is April 10th 2025 It is approximately 603 If you would please Madam um clerk
if you do a roll call Commissioner Lisa Devito Present Senator William present Commissioner Linda Moore present Commissioner Cynthia Burton here Interim City Manager
Christina Murray here Attorney Donald Holmes here Captain Userie from the Pen County Sheriff's Office here and Captain uh Lieutenant Sean and we have
miners with you hiding hiding over there [Music] Thank you Thank you madam And with that I'm going to ask Commission if you would please lead us
into stand if you're able Let's bow our head Dear heavenly father once again we want to thank you for allowing us to wake up this morning to a brand new day One we've never seen before we'll never see again We do ask that you be with us today And we ask
that you bless this meeting on tonight Help us do those things that are pleasing your sight Help us to agree and disagree in unity and love that we might get the honor and praise from you And Lord we ask you for every family member those that have sick and shut in God
bless and heal In the name of Jesus we pray Amen Thank you I pledge allegiance I pledge to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for all Thank you Thank you everyone for being here today We have um a few announcements We've got a lot going on Starting this Saturday coming Saturday
we've got the Crescent City Women's Club is going to be hosting breakfast with the Easter Bunny Crescent City um women's club is doing that at Saturday April 12th at 8:30 The doors open I believe there is a small charge for
breakfast but that's always a fun time They're having also this Saturday our downtown partnership is having a movie in the park at Eva Lion Park and they are playing Hop I don't know if any of you have ever seen that but it is a really fun movie Bring your popcorn
bring your chair bring your blanket bring whatever um you want Are they going to know if they're going to have refreshments popcorn They're just doing popcorn Drinks Okay So don't bring your popcorn buying popcorn and and there will be
drinks available So um for family drinks just so and then also we've got Bundo with the Women's Club That's going to be Wednesday April 16th from 1 to 300 p.m at $6 to play And bingo is Friday April
18th as dinner in bingo with the doors opening at 5:00 p.m Bingo starts at 5 at 5:45 p.m Don't be late for your bingo President City Downtown Partnership of course is doing the spring fest That is April 26 and that's going to be at the
corner of Summit and Central in our market square from 9:00 a.m to 2:00 p.m They're going to have local vendors live music They have a petting zoo there from 10 to 1 um to 100 p.m And then the Futland Peninsula
Historical Society they're going to have their monthly meeting They always meet at the women's club the Crescent City Women's Club That's April 17th That's a Thursday at 400 PM Nicole it's a with ghost and legends of St Augustine
That should be a fun one She will be the speaker that day Also April 26 at 11:00 am the uh Fruitland Peninsula Historical Society and the Purple Pond Players are excited to announce the turn of the century time tour and I know they've
been working on this Take a step back in time and meet several notable names in early 20th century present city This unique tour will be an interactive live history exhibit lasting approximately 30 minutes along Central Avenue Find the portal to the past at the corner of
Summit Street and Crescent and Central Avenue during the Springf Fest We've also got Easter in the Park South Putham Church is going to be hosting that at Eva Lion Park on Easter Sunday at 8:30 um in the morning And then we've got
this is a really this is really if you're available on Saturday this was brought to our attention that um Victory Worship Center and Zeta Museum chapter did I pronounce that correct that's correct Okay
um which Commissioner Ward is a proud member of are excited to cordially invite um us to the installation of the Little Free diverse library book exchange bookcase in our community It
the Little Free Library is a 501c3 nonprofit organization dedicated to increasing access to books for people of all ages and backgrounds Through neighborhood book exchanges individuals can share and discover new reading material helping to foster a culture of
reading learning and connection This is the second installation from Putnham County and it's an excellent opportunity to participate in this global movement With over 150,000 registered little free libraries in 115 countries millions of
books are exchanged annually This one is going to be Saturday April 12th also this coming Saturday at 1:30 p.m at Victory Worship Center Youth Center which is 10:24 Huntington Road And with that does anybody else um
Commissioner Devito you have something you wanted to add well actually I did Um there is a flyer at the post office Um I don't see see that it's in your stack but I believe it says those flyers post
office It says Saturday April 9th at Harry Banks Park 200 p.m The I believe it's the Women's Civic Association is having a family oriented children's event Um and it said if you would like to donate something to contact someone
at the Women's Civic Association So um if people want more information the last I thought there was very nice flyer up at the post office Okay But I believe it's it would be Saturday April 19th right and I um I communicated with Sid
Snider about it and she told me the name of the person to get in touch with but they didn't give me permission to Okay Okay Um also the residents over at in Randolph just so everyone knows over in the Randolph neighborhood um have approached us and they've asked us to
help and assist with a cleanup Right now we're looking at dates It could possibly be April 26 It might even be two weeks after I believe that's May May 10th Um but anyway look for that We'll make sure we put that out on the city website Um
we've got Waste Pro is going to bring in a container and it's just for the residents to be able to spruce up their neighborhood for springtime Bring in summertime Okay And with that we have no other announcements
I'm going to go to our proclamation I believe we have Mr Josh here Are you going to Is he going to be representing he's going to represent the historical society surpris when you show up at the media
You just never know Is actually okay Good evening commission As always I'm delighted to be here Good evening And thank you for calling me up Um now what is it I'm doing
we're going to be accepting the Historic Preservation Month proclamation I'm delighted to hear so Thank you This is always an exciting time in town uh when our uh historic preservation month kicks off and the Freeland Peninsula
Historical Society puts um the yard signs in that both Commissioner Lori and Rachel have worked so hard on through the years to identify its identifiers on home so people can drive around It's a a
really neat tour It has a QR code you can zoom in on a lot of work has been put into that So we thank you both on behalf of the community for doing that um for us along with everyone else in the historical society that contributes
It's a big deal Um and with that I'm going to start the proclamation The city of Crescent City proclamation 202503 historic preservation month And whereas local historic preservation is an effective tool for revitalizing
neighborhoods fostering local pride and maintaining community community character while enhancing livability And whereas historic preservation is relevant for communities across the nation both urban and rural and for Americans of all ages all walks of life
and all ethnic backgrounds and where it is important to celebrate the role of history in our lives and the contribution made by dedicated individuals in helping to preserve the tangible aspects of the heritage that has shaped us as a community And whereas
the Futland Peninsula Historical Society of Crescent City and other community groups are participating in historic preservation month during May of 2025 And whereas the South Putham community has embarked upon a new commitment to
preservation historic and archaeological surveys the nomination of significant cultural resources to the local state and national register of historic places the protection of traditional neighborhoods the integration of historic elements with redevelopment and
the recognition rehabilitation and restoration of historic properties Now therefore I Michelle Myers as mayor of Crescent City together with the members of the city commission do hereby proclaim May 2025 as Historic
Preservation Month and call upon the residents of Crescent City to join their fellow citizens across the United States in recognizing the importance of preserving the history of communities and participating in this special obser
observance and witness whereof I appear to set my hand and cause the seal of the city of Crescent City Florida to be affixed this 10th day of April 2025 And so with that Commissioner Lori and Mr Dodge if you want to speak to this you both have been very involved in
it Certainly Thank you Mayor Um this is the fourth year that we've done this Um it was something that we started um in 2022 with the lady uh Jim Sty starting out um
to have this observance to kind of bring attention and awareness to the historic properties we have in town Um we all know that they're there and we all appreciate them but it is a lot of work to keep those buildings together Um and so we've um you know started this
program with doing the proclamations as well as uh doing the displace matters project that you referred to earlier which is been on labor It's a lot of fun and getting the website together so that you can go around and find out the history of one of these buildings and see pictures of them when they're older and see how they've changed and how that
happened So it's u it's great and we appreciate the support of the city too you guys put the banners for us and um it's it's nice to be able and and bring attention to this So well thank you Thank you And I also would like to point
out the fine work of Commissioner Devido She's also on our committee and this year she has arranged something very special with the tours involving the purple pump players Okay And that it sounds like you want to talk about that
because I know it's it's um Dr Roseman has talked to me about it and he's very excited about it Very excited He's from Well it's um the turn of the century time tour which is going to be um a 30-minute tour of 30 years at the turn
of the century of the east side of Central Avenue Um is something really new Last year um the historic society um did two tours one of all of Central Avenue and we're going to do that again
this year On the 16th Friday the 16th we'll be doing um a tour of one section of our historic district on Saturday the 10th But April the 26th it's a unique tour with a drama provided by the Purple
Plum Playhouse That's what they call themselves hospital lighthouse They have written a wonderful script that really brings history life and I encourage everyone who can make it to come Children um accompanied by adults are
welcome So um that is the official kickoff of preservation month And um thank you mayor and I think could we ask those in the audience who are historic society members to raise their hand yes please raise your hand if you're Thank
you Right And thank you for all you do Thank you for all you do for this Thank you Good I'm gonna with that this is um Christina Marie This is your first signing as our city manager If you would
please sign your name to this and I did I did not welcome you but thank you for being here tonight and and mayor and commissioners uh the the Fman of the Peninsula Historical Society is very proud to have
this population Thank you Well thank you very much Y'all want to have you want to have a picture let's get all the historical Come on everybody up That's my Let's do Come on Great photo Come on [Music]
[Music] Oh those are some good shoes Liz Those chairs aren't Okay three Okay Thank you Thank you Thank you Dan I appreciate it Thank you Thank you
Thank you Public comment Um I do want to I I I do want to say um that this past weekend thank you to our Rotary members Um we've got quite several of them here You raise your hand if you're a Rotary
member Okay Um I just want to thank you on behalf of the city um and the commission It was an outstanding event Um and I I should have done that earlier I had that in my notes and I just looked right over it and I apologize because it
was the 43rd annual and the people that came out It was amazing to me those that that were here for the very first time that had heard about it from all over Um if you if you've never watched that
setup and progress the amount of work and time that goes into it is incredible and they do it for the students here in our community and all of that money stays here with our students Um it's for the scholarships that they're able to
further their education and I mean I just give kudos to all of you um commissioners Thank you all for being part of the parade Uh Maryanne the parade was outstanding I still can't hear very well from here Um as with the
Shriners they did an awesome awesome job but it was just a beautiful day The weather was incredible It was and um I hope everyone dress it up and um gear it up for next year But you know it's it
takes volunteers takes it takes a village and they pull it together And thank you all for what you do And Captain Userie um we just thank you uh for keeping everybody safe Uh it was it was a tremendous job and we really do
appreciate that I mayor we would like to thank you as well You were out there every day with Rotarians helping I know that you do it just to help out and it is a help It makes a difference And also the city employees and cleaning up the city and
doing the yards and cleaning up at the bank and stuff I mean everything's looking great We put on our best clothes that day and it's all thanks to the city as well So our city did and I have to thank Christina um and Melanie uh they both worked with staff
to make sure that the city sparkled and it did sparkle Um and and they were there all day helping as well And Cecil bless his heart he called me at 6:00 in the morning and um he left there with me I think at 7 that night And he never
complained one time He was a trooper Anything they asked him to do he did And um it's just a nice partnership and we appreciate the Rotary allowing us the Rotarians allowing us to be part of that It's just it's just a feel good for everybody But thank you for everyone
that everything that you did And with that I'm going to open it up for public comments It's just a event that I forgot The Sunfish Riata um out at Lake Stella on the 26th The Sunfish Reata That's true The yacht club is putting that on on Lake Stella on the 26th Um what time
does it start 9:00 I believe Um breakfast from 8 to 10 Okay Captain's meeting at 10 The first start is at 11 Okay There's a lot going on on the 26th Also prom night
Yeah No Is that um down the road yes Okay Sid Oh Sid Um Sid would you like to tell us about uh Commissioner Devito who's sharing with us um on the 19th at Harry Banks Park oh the Easter egg hunt Is
that the Easter oh is that the annual Easter egg hunt okay It's um from 2 to 6 From 2 to 6 2 to 6 Okay Thank you Harry Park Thank you With that I'm going to now open up public comment
We have um Sham Asbury if you would come forward please and state your name and your address if you will It's been a while since I've been here um forgive me It's been a while since I've actually spoken in front of anybody
Um but I after this past weekend about about a week and a half ago I don't know that any one person can help me on this So that's why I'm coming to you as a commission I do have some pictures I'd like to give to maybe pass around here
Sure So my issue my name Asbury 310 South Prospects 3 I bought that house from my dad that I grew up in Actually was born and raised in Um but my issues with the peacocks
Um you know I don't have a problem with Tim but 90 plus you know creates a I actually had a speech prepared and an outline but I'm just there's not that many people here so I'm not going to be that dramatic
Come on I'm not trying to win but I just want I seriously though I just want I have a semi stressful job and which required me to sleep at different times and last weekend my I have a 2-year-old
now added to the family and sleeping on the floor with him because he had a virus He just had a fever a high fever for like three days and I can't afford the bulletproof glass in my house So it's a just imagine every hour every 30
minutes hearing this Now I know that it's it's hard because I know that the communities you know there's an aesthetic value There's an attraction by these peop However not every one of us lives in that section of town that has all
these birds Um you know in addition to them robbing me and my family of sleep is digging the multiple holes in my yard where you about sprain your ankle if you go out in the dark Um they're roosting on top of the truck
and my tonic cover Don't try waxing your vehicle because they're going to get in a fight with it So you know the poop the poop's an issue getting on new shoes and you walk out in the yard at dark Um they're eating my vegetables in my gardens I have one that
I fit in Um don't try growing peppers Um and contrary to popular belief I mean I've been here for you know on and off for 51 years and they weren't here originally Um but Crescent Stadium was
still a cool place I mean I don't think you have to have 90 I think 10's plenty um to actually be attractive Um the only peacocks I saw growing up as a kid were out near Tiffany Circle north of town There's maybe two or three of them Um
but I think you all know too that the Wildlife Commission lists them as a invasive species Um you know if you ever have any kind of outbreak the West Nile virus or the aven flu I mean they're going to be some of the biggest carriers So I just ask you to consider a plan to
reduce the population because at some point we're going to have to do it anyway So thank you Thank you Thank you Um I have to um that noise uh we've had to sleep durations Um
okay um do some renovations with the windows open and um my husband has woken up who also gets up and works those crazy hours like you and he said um some very not kind words at about 3:00 in the morning when those things
are just you feel like they're sitting in your living room Um so don't know if we need to to talk to Fish and Wildlife Um I don't know as far as from the animal control um you know
what they can do when there's that population because they are right now and they're in um their season full They've also gone across the street now cross 17 uh during that neighborhood
neighborhood and every time I hear their call it seems to be getting closer to North Prospect Street and I really hope that they don't quite frankly Um but wasn't there a time when
uh we had somebody that wanted to um wasn't the uh Barberville Barber wanted to Yeah take some down there Um maybe they're still interested So maybe we won't have you talk to FBC
and see how we can what can be done and the neighbors Well Commissioner Yeah I mean I think that we need to schedule the whole issue of animal control um for a discussion because quite frankly um the peacocks are in my
part of town also I don't particularly mind them but um I'm not able to plant the garden without fencing it because of stray dogs and stray cats that dig it up and also poop in it We can't leave the
garage door open one second when our back has turned because there will be stray cats in there People on my side of town have had to watch um litters of feral kittens be born and be picked off
by hawks and birds and disease not to mention the stray dogs So um and the barking dogs So it seems like there's several quality of life issues that really do need to be addressed Um and I
understand if someone's concerned about the peacocks but I'm also concerned about the stray cats and the dogs that are having a similar issue from so somehow that's going to be with the county So that will be with the county The other one's going to be
probably with FWC as far as how we can handle that right but also um I think there are people on South Prospect Street that might like to be able um before I mean they
know we'll make sure that that happens You also noticed you know we have peacocks down but there's quite a large number of turkeys now down in that area as well I don't know if you've seen them We have about 12 Yeah it's pretty big So
and occasionally we have wild pigs down there too So it's just we have our own our own little wildlife section on the South Prospect Street And I guess my point is that it's not just a matter of county animal control There are
things that we could do about this problem I would like to hear an update about what's going on with um the stay or mobile unit that we contributed $5,000 to So it seems to me we have some
pending animal issues We might want to Christina um if you would please reach out to Jenny I believe that that it should be up and running I thought in the next two months or so Yeah she they've had problems getting pieces and
parts to put more unit together I'm not sure where they got these parts and I hope I hope it's on the way All the parts are are there but that's what they were waiting for So but I would get in
touch with you just as she can give us an update Okay Yes sir Is this regarding this issue yes Um I'm on the board of Arc Okay Uh so the update on the trailer is that the
trailer itself is completed Uh but uh as Commissioner Burton just mentioned we're waiting for equipment and we're hoping in June we'll be able to implement it
So So that's the update Thank you Thank you Okay with that I'm gonna ask um Mr Chrome if you would please come forward Thank you Good evening Thank you Welcome Appreciate that Um my name's Greg
Chromemer I'm an aerial photographer I've been on a quest of sorts to photograph every community in Florida from an airplane It's kind of like playing Pokemon but with an airplane in the camera I just wanted to show off the one that I took here I'll show it to you all and then show it to everybody else I
always like to show these to council See if there might be any interest in a copy for the walls here I've been doing this for now 18 years The collection's up to about 5,000 places across 32 states Wow And I've never heard a council meeting talk about
the oxy this year It's been a lot of things It's been chickens Everybody with price of eggs wanted to chicken I think the consensus is you can have the uh the uh the female the hens but you can't have
the rooster That's that's here too Thank you Very nice You want to turn around and let the audience see absolutely Beautiful Thank you And I've got a bunch of cards I'll pass down to you This one won't be added to the website I just took this to two weeks
ago So I shot about 75 places across Northeast Florida two weeks ago but adds to that collection and um adding on to it every year and uh the purchases of them help uh fuel that But I would appreciate your consideration
Well thank you So you're out of Virginia so welcome to Crescent City I'm actually I'm from where you Well thank you This is a beautiful flight Um this particular flight I flew out of Jacksonville Executive and it was assessment 172 When
I started the collection um my son and I would fly a an old 46 ora chant stick and rudder cloth and wood tail drager had to hand prop it Um but with a 13gon gas tank it didn't go very far So now I drive a little old Prius to the blue sky
take as many pictures as I can when the weather looks fabulous like it did here and u and move on Beautiful weather Thank you Oh the best compliment you'll appreciate this uh that I got the other day was they someone called me an aerial
historian Very nice Thank you Maybe a comment Um there are actually he mentioned aerial historian and there are several iterations of aerial photographs of Crescent City over the years I actually
borrowed one from Sheree Register but I need to get back to her So um that one's more vibrant and colorful but it is possible if we put them together to see how things have changed I love when the old ones go with the new one So that
that's what ties what I do in and adds a greater dimension to it So thank you Thank you Thank you Yes As we um we'll make sure that with Christine you have this card Yeah Okay So thank you Thank you Thank you for doing that Our
pleasure We decided to do something here but right now Christina and Melanie decided that this needed some sprucing up And thanks to a local artist here in Green these are her beautiful paintings And boy it does add a lot doesn't it so
thank you both for that vision and for making it happen And also for Vera Green for contribution to the city for us to use these for our enjoyment With that Miss
Gomez Liz Gomez 19 Seer Street Um I wanted to talk to everybody and before I talk to everybody I want to say I love everybody I love the town I love all humans But I have a tail to
tell you It is coming Sir I feel sorry for you I'm going through the same thing So Chuck from the lumber yard called me and he told me he had it with the nose
The customers were complaining Um the dogs one got loose and they uh l the cat that they had for 17 years got murdered in front of the little attendant and he was in shock They have a metal bar that they don't go
out without the metal bar I call the captain because I knew I was going to get arrested So I go to that home I knock at the door Somebody screams at me what I'm doing there Next thing I know the sheriff is at my door I asked him
"What are our rights?" This man that is 70 years old is telling me he cannot take it Mentally he cannot take it It's too much He's trying to work at the lumber yard and that nose is going constantly So I called Pam Pam said
"Animal control." The sheron told me "Talk to the neighbors." Captain told me "Talk to the neighbors." Nothing was done So I see the church open and I understand that this is a rental that the church rents to these people and by
Jesus Christ I went there and I overturned tables and I said I demand to see the pastor Why are you creating this environment in this neighborhood when you know these people has seven dogs in the back Not only that then I go to
North uh Main Street and they are sequestered over there by the Mexican music So I called the sheriff too I said "I'm going to go and talk to these people." And they tell me "Don't go over there They threaten to shoot the next person I'm not going to allow nobody to
sequester me in my town I'm going to go by the law The dogs are gone We got together as a group and the dogs are gone." These are the same people that do our Fourth of July celebration at Dexter
Park I am asking when are we going to have our workshop things can change We can tell them this is not allowed here You need to move somewhere else to hold your activities because you should not be picking up their trash If they are dis
this disrespectful to the lumber yard and to you they don't deserve to have any celebrations Thank you Thank you This is an issue I talked to the captain about this this week and other
issues with some animals And um unfortunately uh we've got to reach out to Putnham County because Putnham County Animal Control um the report I got back was that they're full up Um
and so I I don't know Uh we can workshop this We've workshopped it and workshopped it We got to find a solution Okay We've talked about this before and it was my understanding and I've addressed this with our code officer
before and I thought our code officer could issue citations for barking dogs that it's I believe it's in our code Um so I don't understand what has changed that it has to be reserved only to
animal control I don't know I mean and I hate what I hate is and by the way the tape that she played that was clearly votable two three four blocks away in our yard We heard that frequently
Um it it bothers me that people can be sent in a loop I mean there should be one place to go and a way to get something done because that went on for months That's the concern
And there'll be somebody else that moves in and it'll go on again somewhere It's not just there We've been talking about animal control for quite some time And I've been one that really um pushed trying to get animal control
here in the city And the push back from the commission has always been well it's animal control and it's and it's county They take care of animal control And when you call animal control first of all if you get somebody to answer you're lucky But then again you're not so lucky
because they pretty much tell you that they're full And so it's kind of a useless uh useless thing that we got going on here with animal control in Button County Uh and obviously the city
um I've been pushing for a while and I kind of have let it go because I hadn't heard too many complaints lately Uh but lately I'm hearing a lot of complaints again and and it always comes back around Always kind of less then comes
back around and um and I'm sure that the commission this time around will say no we we can't do anything about it call all call all the you know the county So I I guess we could have a workshop and
we can go around and around and around chase our tails you know on this subject because that seems to be what we do or or maybe it's time for the for the commissioners city commissioners to get uh serious about it and really come up
with with a plan So that's why I don't need that Well and that's what I I mean that's what I was saying We've workshopped it and and we're not we haven't gotten anywhere But if we have our own animal control officer what does he do where are they going to take it to
putting counties I mean so these are some things that we have to we have to figure out because right now they're not going to take it up in and we're in a situation we could set up a kennel Um so yes if I could to be fair
to all of us we put quite a bit of time into this and Commissioner Burton's preferred solution which was to have our own panel control officer um our prior city manager Mr Rudd spent quite a bit of time and effort getting cost
estimates and the issue of the kennel where would it go and then the issue of budgeting for a truck and an officer were quite a heavy lift for us with the funds that we thought we had at this
time I personally have uh identified some things that are not that costly I mean I would love for us to have our own animal control and I I think that it's worth another goround to try to look at all the options things that we can do
that don't cost money I think we need to do every little thing that we possibly can to chip away at this and then we'll have to look at our budget We don't know what our revenue picture is going to be like next year but um I think it is worth looking at every single option and
we we have tried very hard but we cannot pull money out of thin air We can't pull a kennel out of thin air and it is it is costly I mean yes in a in a perfect animal control but there are other things There are other things that you can do and so let's set it for a
workshop Let's workshop it Let's talk about it again Let me get off again Okay Go ahead No I don't want to No nobody's asking but I could be you know because I've been very disappointed with with the
whole with the whole thing control there in Crescent City So I'm disappointed with the whole animal control and all this pet and family Well yeah I bet too But so I mean we're very limited Commissioner Burton I mean if you want to get ugly go ahead and get ugly I mean
we'll listen to you Okay Charles Rug Um no offense to Charles Rug Very good manager He was good at some things And one thing that he's very good at is always getting the most expensive thing on the shelf you know when he put together some of his his budgets for
different things it was always the best and the biggest Our Christmas tree is a very good example of that Um I think he he kind of went overboard with pricing everything up I brought in a budget that
was realistic I brought in something that could probably be handled And uh Jenny Oakwood and I worked on a pretty good solution Uh probably not We were talking not just for Crescent City but you know nobody really wanted
to listen and um and Charles Rug did not want to listen to and and bring in all of South We could do this as a South Button kind of project with everybody involved And he said "No that would be too much trouble." So it really kind of got
sidelined basically because I guess it was too much work I don't know But um there are solutions and South Button South But if we involve all of South Button and came up with a South Putnham okay animal control solution that would
probably be the way to do Would you and Miss Oak would um be willing to hold the workshop and give a presentation i haven't seen that So I'll talk to Jane and see what we can do Okay that'll be you know because this is this is becoming an issue The concern I have is
like Miss Gomez and another resident who was going to go on someone's property and remove the animals then you get into a dangerous situation And that was the biggest concern I have You know we've got animal lovers Um we all are animal
lovers Um and our heart goes out to them but we also have to make sure our residents stay safe And so that's that's Goldman's 19 Cedar Street And again ma'am and commissioners I feel sorry for the dogs
It's not the dogs It's actually the owners of the dog that they think they run the neighborhood and they're going to do whatever they want to do And right now I am excited and nervous about what's going to happen the 4th of July
because it's the same neighbors I know them I see them at least on official events at July at Dixster Park our first bysentennial park in the whole state of Florida It's the same people So if they don't treat their dogs correctly with
love and care how they going to treat our park so that's the workshop that I'm asking for because we already already took care of the dogs Thank you Thank you Thank you We have any other public comments at
this time if you do please come forward If not I'm going to go ahead and close public comment Thank you all for your input We appreciate that And with that we have a a presentation We have got um Brent I think you're here
Mark is not today correct with Inspire Technologies Yes ma'am With Inspire Technologies Um yeah so uh today we're proposing a cyber security training uh solution for the city uh in
support of the house bill that was referenced um at the last meeting It's the HP755 Um initially I believe that the city opted to um go with kind of what was provided by uh the state which was maybe
a once or twice a year training that was offered for free Um and the issue with that is that let's say you everyone goes to the training and um and you hire a new employee they have to be trained within 30 days but that training is only
offered once or maybe twice in a year So uh this solution that we've uh presented to you today uh would be an ongoing training uh exercise where anytime you have a new staff member that's hired for the city uh they're immediately enrolled
within the training and they would have to complete it within the allotted time frame Um and it would constantly run throughout the year So uh it would handle any new employees that are that are hired And uh the quote I believe is included as well
Um then I'm happy to field any questions about that uh that you may have Okay Thank you Commissioner Moore I believe you have um gone through the cyber jury training program leadership program Yes I've done one of them um
that FIU provides Um but actually through the same program you know the state legislature when they passed House Bill 755 um actually put forth $50 million to help get the goals accomplished And one of those um that
money goes to the Florida Digital Service which is part of the state Um and then through that they hire and fund programs of the universities And so there is one program that the University of South Florida does that is online that is takes four hours to do that is
available for free Um and people can do that at any time It takes four hours They can do it on their own time They can stop They can go whatever they need to do Um how long does your program ours is about a 15 minute uh quick little
class and then a short quiz at the end Um and also what's included with this is ongoing um cyber security assessments knowledge assessments too So okay it doesn't really explain in here
but the the quote for 2925 $3,000 for a 15 minute class I don't um yeah I can explain a little bit more of the other side of that Absolutely It it is a bit sensitive though because of the
knowledge of its existence can affect the outcome of the results that you get So I'm happy to talk about that oneonone But it isn't just the training that you get There is some extra stuff in there So mayor questions Okay I'm not sure
commissioner is done Are you done okay Sorry I wasn't sure with this So my questions I sent out to our interim city manager before the meeting and thank you for giving us the quote Number one this is in the nature of a
presentation Um and it's very helpful um because I think this new cyber security law is pretty new to all of us except maybe commissioner board He's not seems very familiar which is great Um
but if this is a proposed purchase um aren't we required i mean it's not on the agenda as an approval item So were we thinking that we would say yay or nay on this today well I don't know that we
I think right now he was going to give us a presentation He was asked to give us a presentation So we Okay Just wait I wanted to to clarify to accept his presence proposal Um again I I it's on the agenda as a
report and an estimate Um so I guess my question is did you put it up for bid or what is what is the I don't know what the contracted he's our contracted IT they're contracted IT company and so we asked them to come back with this cyber security requirement Okay So that's why
he's bringing this back to So he has a he has a continuing contract to provide your services both material and and expertise Yes Right This is in addition to his regular contractual obligations Is that this is just one piece of what you
already offered us as far as maintaining correct and there are more items that that we have to offer And and I don't mean this and that you only have this as one option This is just the option that we're most familiar with It's the one that we always use but if there's a different option that you guys would
like me to look into I'm happy to do that Um I entirely am here on on your behalf and and to be your advocate for the best thing that you would want It's just this is the application that we are most familiar with and we know you know it checks all the boxes for us
So is there an emergency to at hand that would require them to go ahead and take action tonight on it if so you could make a motion to have it declared an emergency item and move forward to dis to discuss the purchase of the service or the equipment If it's not an
emergency then I would suggest that you you know agenda it for purchase It's not an emergency and sometime we are not in compliance with state law How much actual and I know that in this arena it's this question is
almost impossible to answer but how vulnerable are they without some additional cyber security measures right now I mean this is entirely one of the baseline reasons that they put this in the bill because knowledge is a very big
deal when it comes to um knowing who's at your door and who to let in and who not Uh that's the biggest advocate we have in making sure that you're safe is so that you know what to look for specifically in your email Um because um as we always say in in our neck of the
woods you can't vampire can't hurt you unless you can find them inside So um you know we we really try to make sure that knowledge is spread as well as possible That's your biggest asset Um and that's one of the biggest things in this bill is um in uh training and
spreading of that knowledge and validation that you've done So So let me let me ask a question I when I was going through this it sounds it's a little contradictory um because it says in here that currently state agencies must provide cyber security training to their employees report cyber security
incidents and adopt cyber security standards However there is no such requirement for local governments But then it goes down requires state agency and local government employees to undergo certain cyber security training within 30 days of employment and annually thereafter
So correct So every year you have to do the training and then once you're hired you have 30 days in which to complete this training Is that all employees yes ma'am That's even our public works All government employees have access to computers that would yes have access to the computer So if they use a computer
at all it really is mostly effective for people that have access to uh email because that's the tax service that we see Um but yes it's it's good for every employee Just also the stuff that I had for now this is the the one sheet from FLC
talking about um the parts of it Basically there's three parts There's the training part there's the standards that we need to adopt Um and then the reporting issue because what this what this bill has also done is it says that it is illegal in the state of Florida for any local government to pay
ransomware um yeah and also to we have to report any sort of incidents to the state command center and and to the local sheriff's department at a certain point and we have to do it promptly But I mean all of this is it's all you know works in
concert The training is definitely part of it Um and like you said it is important because most of the problems that you have would be from someone opening a a piece of email and clicking on something that they should know better to not do Um and that's part of
one of the big things that's covered in the training Um but the standards we need to do and then also we need to have a plan put together so that we do have reporting you know steps And I mean that was one of the things that I I was really hoping you'd come to us and be able to help us with because I mean I'm
not a professional at this I just did the training class Um plus I'm not full-time employee I don't really have a lot of time to sit down and do all this Um but I'm willing to um because there's just there needs to be a basically a binder together that's up on a shelf so that in the event there is a cyber
security incident but we have proper steps who to contact what to do how to figure out We also need there's some other steps that need to be done like figuring out our computer systems and what is backed up off site and how often and what systems are connected to what systems because as they say there's no
way to know if you've got anything back or if you've lost anything if you don't know what you have So I mean our utility billing system is totally different than the rest of the systems and we need to have all that kind of inventoried to keep track of it So you so you're saying though that University of South Florida
has a program that you can go on for four hours that we can have our employees sit down and and get their whatever type of certification that they covers that and that is a free service Yes that's a free service Okay However we have to we have to have a plan in
place and you're the ones that we rely on for that So so if you need like an instant response plan I can easily draft something up and then kind of we can work together on making sure that it says what you want it to say Um we have some of those that are kind of ready to
go Uh if if you don't have one and you need one I'm happy to help provide that I have a question Okay Okay And this is our speaker here So you work for a number of local governments correct yes
ma'am So at this point for the required plans that entities like our city is supposed to have you don't have a standard offtheshelf plan You would have to do a custom plan for us Well I do have uh you mean like as far as incident
response whatever it is that incidents we're supposed to have I think um is it just incident response it also would be an inventory of our systems and that kind of thing So we run a constant inventory of your system I was going to say you should have our Absolutely Yes
ma'am We can put together in a book so that we have it and that is always changing So it's something that we can compile and provide to you You know anything that you don't have that you need uh I I can happily work on getting together and working with you So I guess
my preference would be and I understand I mean we're talking about the total price of this was question $125 Okay So it's almost $3,000 So that's what about $100 an employee a little bit more It's
117 Is this every three years covers you for three years What okay It covers us for three years So you know we um we have a lot of demands on our budget We were just talking about animals Um I certainly think that we need to have a
price for the plan because we want to be in compliance and um whatever we're supposed to have we need to have So that I assume that would be for an additional charge Uh any kind of incident response plan or policy that you need from us that's all part of what you pay us for
We're happy to just provide that and work with you to make sure it says what you wanted to say right so that's part of that's part of your already existing contract with us We're happy to help build that Then I I think we should call upon Inspired Technologies to provide us with that
required plan And then to me it's kind of a value judgment Um I do a lot of training online at four hours We all know we take the 4-hour ethics online That is a lot of time So you know do we want to put in the
$3,000 and have the 15 minute course or do we want to require everyone to sign up with the University of South Florida um and it I don't know It seems to me like time is important We need to get
people trained Um but I would be interested to know what our interim city manager thinks you know which would be better And of course Commissioner Roy took the course Um you know do we think it's worth it to have our employees put aside that four hours you went to you
went didn't you go where did you went to Jacksonville i had another conference but other staff other staff went to Jacksonville They do in versions you know several times said a year but you can do it online as well And that's the USF
version is online My question is how can you take four hours and condense it into 15 minutes I don't know what they have in the four hour I mean I can talk all day about that with our ethics I I can run till I'm dry in the mouth about it stuff but I think that
the very important highlights can be done in a very quick and easy manner Is it something that I have access to demo version to look at yeah Yeah I can I can Yeah absolutely I can walk you right through it because I that that I can as I can compare
Um and I guess I'm really I mean until we have this this policy in place this plan in place as far as our employees and making sure that they're properly trained in this Um I think right now they should go ahead and
we should work with Sheila and have them sit down for this just so that we are in compliance I think it's important Uh we did have a recent incident where an email came in and it was not a good one It looked like it was from one of our local property owners when in essence it
was um it wasn't It came up on all of our computers One of our employees was trying to click on it um including we called Mark from it right away So um it is an issue that needs to be addressed I think our staff should um be knowledgeable of of cyber security It's
very important Um so this contract is for this proposal is for three years and continue training So if we have employees the new employees that come on board they're trained right away without the need to to sit through the four hours three months So I think it's worth consideration and and you also have to
consider 4 hours times 25 and and what that would cost every year anyway I mean in time um I know we were saying you know four hours to sit through our kids training sometimes that it it's a long it's a long day There's a lot of information
and it's very arguable information that I that you get from it that we have to you know refer to So I mean it never bothers me I always learn something better every time I take it But I will say it will be in person last year Um and I enjoyed it It was just much more
robust than first It wasn't So just just saying Yeah I will say if it if it does help in your decision-m at all um with no before and like I said I'm a little I'm a little guarded on the specifics of this information but there is an assessment that you do get with
the level of no before that we've quoted here that is ongoing that will let you know where your vulnerabilities are within your personnel So um that's something that's actionable that that we can really kind of target and and strengthen the weak points with Um I
don't know if if UF offers that but I do know that that's at least part of that So I think the takeaway here is um we definitely if you would please bring back to us a plan a recommended plan uh an incident response plan just to be
specific Yes Okay Absolutely Commission agreement that what do we want to do with this proposal do you want to further do some more research to see what else is available um
I would I would I would like to do that before we spend $3,000 just I think it's important and obviously I was the one that brought this up for two months ago and you know I know it's important but I also want to
do it right and do it with the proper you know resources and not waste the taxpayers money if possible So Mr I do want to ask you um was the other I mean this is how you're working with how many of those um are you working with currently that are in compliance with
this and have actually enacted a program most of them uh and it's this product um is it something that you brought to their attention because we have this contract with you as our IC's provider um really our MIS every everything that
has to do with that and rely on you because none of us again are experts and we rely on him to bring that information to us to make sure that we are in compliance Yes ma'am So I did bring this to Charles RD sometime last year Okay Uh and I spoke to him about it and then it was decided to go with the kind of one a
year training and I advised against it obviously I you know I support anything the city wants to do That's why they went to Jacksonville I guess that's I I guess that's where it was I wasn't really giving any detail but we did provide this information I think that should be provided to I mean it should
be required the commission also so the commission should also be doing this because I mean how many of you gotten emails from me that we don't know who that is from it always it is very very much recommended that the commission's involved I mean do you have a city email
so you would need to be involved in this every other municipality that we do um their commission is involved as well you guys are VIPs you're the you're the targets you know um so that's It's even more important that you guys are aware of all this Well it is because they'll use our name and because they use our
name people think that you know the influence that that might have They're always asking for money from always asking Can you go get Mayor i think you raised a good point that something at this level of
seriousness and state requirements Um a letter to the city manager and all the commission would have been a good idea just so we are informed because it's a it's a very Yeah but that's he deals with the city manager So that's that
falls on the city manager making sure the city manager gets it to us right and that we're in compiance I don't know what hours that right now Right now our biggest concern is making sure that we're in compliance Yes ma'am So if you will help us with the incident plan and
get bring that to the next meeting Um Commissioner Lori I think that next meeting you need to put this as an action item that we need to vote on and get this and get this going to make sure that Absolutely And um what I'll do even so I
can even have it ready before the end of the week but I'll work with the city manager uh to make sure that it's specific to Crescent City It says exactly what you guys wanted to say and then we can even further review it again to make sure if there's any changes you want to make Absolutely happy to help Thank you
And mayor just one question for Commissioner and thank you very much So the University of South Florida program that is available for anyone who needs it at any time That's on demand and free So I I signed up for today and it even
has a place where you put in your human resource contact email so that they sends it to the the person that's coordinating it to keep track of it So they they specifically have set it up for that purpose Okay Um then can can the
rest of the commission figure out where to find us information okay So if our city manager feels like there's an urgent need for a particular employee to be updated between now and May they could go and
make okay with that Thank you Thank you all Okay with that happening [Music] we talk about the dogs really quick and
sure on main music and all the other peacocks and everything else So one of the challenges we faced we talked about a while back was process There's got to be accountability for this stuff So right now what stands in place between us and these citations and what happens after the citation gets issued is
manpower and process And how this kind of works is and I'll go from beginning to end is you get a barking dog complaint I have a I have a victim or witness complaint whatever you want to call it I go to that person where said barking dog is I issue them a citation
At that point a process should start Right now there are no magistrates seeing these civil citations and there's no process to it So we're working on that currently So I go issued the citation they either do one thing need to go or two things either pay it or they throw in the garbage and there's no
consequences So what happens is when someone gets issued that citation and they say "I'm not guilty." Then we as a city have to provide them legal counsel to to have a court hearing So that whole process is in the works right now We've been working with Matt Reynolds and it's
not just us either It's it's our animal control as well The citation just doesn't hold any teeth I don't know what that looks like I know on on toes and stuff like that when you don't get your car from a toward they put a lean on your driver's license and when you go get your driver's license you have to pay that lean first before you get your
driver's license back So I don't know if that's some way we can go to to make people you know pay for these citations or whatnot So that's a process that we are working on So I think we got to get that done first Another thing I've mentioned in the past is um one me venture off here a little bit the animal
control is building the new facility I don't know when that that date is going to be I can get with you I can get with you and figure out what that date is going to be Look a little bit better We'll have some type of relief So there's a lot of things working things that are in progress working in progress
to make this um to try to alleviate some some of this nonsense that we're seeing with the dogs and the peacocks and everything else So um any questions on that can I have any questions on this not at this time but and I think and I
mentioned to you as well is just like we you you guys you know when we need extra deputies to do whatever you could probably contract with the county and just hire animal control services for overtime They were not interested All
right Okay So that I mean that was that was I do know that that Charles R did talk to the county and that proposal proposal for that right now Your ordinance says that your ordinance is going to be enforced by the county
animal control pursuit to an interlocal agreement So that's that's what your ordinance holds I was looking it up earlier They asked us the county asked us to accept their animal control ordinance So um ours would mirror theirs and theirs was not as strong as ours and
so we would not do that We had um discussions with them and was not strong No ours is much better Yes ours was much better And we can thank whoever wrote it in the past but um I'm sorry Ours was stronger than theirs
But mayor this is part of some of this some of the journey we've been through Um I could have sworn that um there's somewhere in our code that gives our code officer the authority to
address parking docks Is parking docks in the section of the code that our attorney is looking at so yeah There's also limitations on the number of animals you can and that's in our ordinances So I don't know if that is
wellforced So you're saying that they're looking they can attach that to a driver's license So I'm not saying I'm just trying to how they could do that I believe that's Florida statute under how to stuff like that Yeah Not for uschanics
Be interesting to see if we did have that how we could attach it either to utilities Um you know but it would have to probably go to the magistrate first as we've been discussing this and we've
had two workshops on animal control Um it has crossed my mind before that there are improvements to our ordinance that we could make that would help us and um we might be able to give ourselves more options for enforcement if we looked at
it So um and it's always complicated and I know the um captain has said there are things moving forward that will help us but I think that there's more that we can do ourselves in our ordinance little bit by little bit And again I'm just
using the animals of the dogs at the PL it goes into parks and dealing with issues in the parks and I know we talk about the fireworks People get stuck trying to put their boats in the boat ramp had all kind of issues and it's just something we enforcement it's we can put it on paper it's how do we
enforce it and that's what we come down to every time because we put it on paper and how will we enforce it I have to say the noise we did that with our noise we increase that and I know that's what you use and you tell them that and and I haven't gotten I know there's noise out
there but and again there's a process there when we talk about noise we've got to have a certified meter meter then we got to have somebody that's trained qualified to run that said meter So it's a lot that goes into it Yeah it's the enforcement um and that's what we have to figure
out So Don with your health also any recommendations you might have it's a tough subject and uh I mean I guess that's why it remains unresolved in some indic It's
uh Can the city make it a mission just kidding I'm just kidding I'm not sure that was a helpful comment Um it's just it's a money thing I mean it is of course Putnham County they are
building a facility but I don't know how much capacity it's going to have in all honesty and I when I was with the city of Pala I approached the county about allowing us to fund I understand that their facility is going to be modular So I asked the city the county about the
ability to add a wing or let us pay for only in the city so that we would have room for animals that the city had had called animal control about or that our and we we had a truck and we had an animal control officer for a while but
we had didn't have any place to put the animals And you it it's a problem but it's a problem from a lot of different perspectives because uh the first time that an animal is
mistreated by you by the city you're probably going to be reading about yourself in the in the or seeing yourself on national TV We had that happen in the city of we had more interest in that than we had over a lot of other things down there when someone
called one of the national news organizations about a dog that allegedly was improperly impounded or or wasn't treated properly So there it's a big question and uh you don't have the money
to hire to to fund a pound or animal control facility whatever you want to call it Um I don't know if you had the money to hire to buy a truck hire an animal control officer and then you mentioned the the magistrate process I guess they're going to be asking for
contributions from everybody who's participating I don't know how they're going to fund that magistrate process So it it's an issue It's it's a nationwide issue It's not just here in present city It's a nationwide issue Um everybody everybody has it It's just
right now it's it's it's it's right here It's getting worse The economy tanks and or I shouldn't say it that way but the if the econom economy money gets tighter people already food has already gone up Absolutely You know and so yeah Well but
there are jurisdictions that do a lot better than we do And again I think this is well worthy of another workshop and we need to look at everything and do what other people do You have a
jurisdiction that has a model that like Yeah I was going to say that we could use I can I've looked at them before I can look at them again between you and Jenny just little small things that we do and
every small thing makes a difference There's big things that you could do but we don't seem to have the money for that So I'm happy to contribute what I can and I think we need to look at what we can as opposed to what seems to be beyond the reach and I think we'll get
somewhere and and Commissioner Burton and Commissioner Burton So we'll put this on our workshop list so that we have a workshop on this and we can have the presentations from Jenny O and Commissioner Burton and also Commissioner
DO you would look into that um the citizens is quality of life you know and when somebody's concerned and insecured to walk down their road you know that's where it falls back on us because they they look to us to make sure that they have the quality of life that that
they've bought into here in Crescent City And you don't want anybody ever to be fearful and um and and they are especially with a lot of our older people older residents you know walking and fearful that they're not going to get away from a dog
So that's Anyway Okay Captain Thank you Sorry for going down that rabbit hole All right we went right down that rabbit hole again Thank you So first of all our next I want to say thank you to everybody all the citizens credit out
there watching how um everything went great with the catfish festival We had a couple after parties that um were a bit concerning to some people However I had a crowd there that those guys were amazing just like they were last year Uh they started uh they gathered up behind
my office over there and got probably I would say probably around 300 people maybe 300 maybe more and I went out in the base still in the middle of the street and said hey we got to go over to Bay Street where we were planning this off and in about 10 minutes everybody left someone came behind everybody and
picked all the garbage up and they moved over to Bay Street From there we gave them a timeline until 10:00 You got to cut everything off At about 9:45 we left let them do whatever they did how many calls for service that I could find Um they had their gathering Seemed like
everybody had a good time The crowd was positive They gave us no problems And at 9:45 they shut the music down at 10:00 Everybody was gone So it worked perfectly Thank you I thank everybody for that because we were definitely I mean I had a lot of manpower here Don't get me
wrong we were prepared but for a crowd that big you really got to sit back and wait until it's over with and deal with the aftermath I have to say that um I was extremely impressed Saturday evening because I drove a golf cart right into the middle of that on Main Street and
weren't sure how I was going to get out of it and there was at least there were at least 200 possibly 300 people there And um and you're right I drove back through there in a regular car in about 30 minutes and you would have never known It was like did I really come
through here earlier i mean it was so Thank you And they had cleaned everything up Um and there was nobody there except for three people in both attics and that's it So thank you All right moving into our report I don't have much which is good We did have one
incident where it was a domestic battery Obviously there's parts of this I can't say where the address and stuff was just for the victim's protection Domestic battery was strangulation You can kind of do the math on that Next was a traffic crash Our one traffic crash that we had two vehicles
travel south on Summit Street I don't know how it happened but somehow this car made like a really weird turn and tried to turn on the Reed Avenue and the other car was going to try to pass him and they collided in the front I guess they were trying to Anyway they were passing and they hit each other
No it's two lines from four lines right there on Main Street All right my clicker quit working so forgive me Calls for service 171 calls for service 37 traffic stops traffic accidents one 11 total reports in the city seven
arrests and that's charging after file with the state attorney's office We didn't have any of those Any questions on those numbers six month crime person No robberies no burglaries no vehicle theft no thefts one aggravated assault for a
total of one crime 200% decrease And with that that's all I have Commissioner I mean commissioner Thank you commissioner Thank you Captain We're going to make you an honorary commissioner Um does anybody have any questions for now commissioner Burton no
Are you hearing anything just from 6:15 I'm just saying no That whole that the whole deal on this main main street we heard that that was probably
going on that was probably going on for at least an hour and a half And of course because our our city is really kind so noisy really through the whole day and there are people playing but people are just noisy
all day you know whether they're having a party or whatever It didn't really occur to me that there was 300 people over there I just knew that that it was loud and the loudest radio I believe that I have ever heard
We've we've heard that before we've been through it uh in that area and um but when I when I got the phone call I was like yeah I've been listening to this I mean my house you know to get into that whole base thing it it rocks the whole
house and and um but I was thinking well you know we we do have some rules that allow that kind of stuff to happen um and so I didn't know that there was 300 people over there okay maybe we
don't have rules that allow that to happen but we all have rules where you know they could be noisy until 10:00 Well and that and that's kind of the way I I judge dealing with situations is when the city when the city speaks then we we
respond Okay And when the city spoke I respond Right Exactly Exactly So thank you I I didn't I I was talking about you mentioned to me the other day um when I saw you and you said you know that 6:30 motorcycle that's what I was talking
about she mentioned the six between 6 and 6:30 there's a motorcycle that you guys never seen me catch you got him all right Jan well he was out he was out in his yard
and I heard by and Chan you heard I saw go Well let me tell you you know as soon as she said that I told him it's going to get expensive for him if you don't cut it out I think he took it to heart It was very actually very humble Well well
thank you for that But but I started laughing because the very next morning you know I heard that that motorcycle between six you know you know and I listened to it for about a week So it must have been about a week later that she finally got him
Thank Ch He didn't do that just as you know He didn't do that as a citizen He did that in his in his job in his official capacity Please don't chase after motorcycles So as a result of the catfish festival we actually made a little bit of money
off of it had a gentleman who decided to run from us and throw 30 around $31,000 in cash out of his car with some drugs
in it Now we now made we made $31,000 somewhere around 30 let's just say $30,000 So we made $30,000 off that donated Yes that goes back to at the sheriff's office
Wow He just threw cash out there Thought we didn't see him Did you all stop and just pick the cash up or did you actually catch the guy no we didn't care about him anymore Norally what happens is you chase the you know the cat chases the mouse and then the mouse
call to come around there and beat up That's right Immediately stop that We already had that It was a Louis bag also It was a lot and he and he threw a
It was an [Laughter] official scar Other than that any questions thank you Commissioner Did you Thank you And we hope you enjoyed your vacation
Oh always Okay with that I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to close out Um I mean I'm going to recess our our regular meeting I'm open up our COA We've got if you look on there um you
want to um Sure Firstly I'll update you on our pending t projects We have Pam's Kitchen wrapping up We've just about dispersed all of the uh grant funds to um to that project I think there's roughly about
$1,000 left that um they'll be submitting some invoices for that but that should be wrapping up shortly and Pam's kitchen should be set to open within the month I'll keep you posted on that It's looking great and everything is really Yep And
um we're on the Lawrence building You recall he you all approved some windows a few months or quite some time ago The contractor has received his first deposit We're doing 50/50 and um the windows are being and and permitting and
and everything's underway So that's um that's all good And then um finally we have this uh legislative call to action You may I'm sure you probably have received the updates we all just as I have the call to action to oppose um
bill 1232 So you'll see in your packet there's instruct um information from there to you know prepare a message for the Senate committee and etc So I think the question is do we do we
sent a letter to both our senator and representative Do we want to send that same letter um at this point I refer to our three legislative um is that something that at this point
I mean the more contact they hear from us the better So not just to our represent the entire committee I mean that's a lot of that's a lot of work for Okay So um I contacted the League of Cities
attorney who's the lead on this because the requests we were getting from League of Cities were slightly different than the request that came in from the redevelopment association and the status right now with the Senate bill and the
House bill is um moving quite along and um appears to be um very strongly supported in the House unfortunately because it doesn't do a lot for us But in the Senate the bill is currently in its last committee of reference which is
the rules committee Um if it got agenda they would know today and the suggestion was um that this time in the session Um this was from the bigger city's attorney that it would be more effective to make
a phone call to the office of each member of the rules committee Um and as well to contact our senator Senator Lee who we did before and ask him to
um you know ask members of the rules committee either not well ask the chair not to agenda it to ask senator pass to not agenda that bill and that may be um a done deal by now I have a hook to my phone Um but he said specifically phone
calls would be maybe get more attention than 11 So I mean we can do whatever we want to do We can do what um redevelopment works asked us to as well Um but certainly um I think Commissioner Burton
and Commissioner Bory and I we have the little books they gave us from Tallahassee that will have the members of the rules committee and their phone numbers So you know we can we can do whatever we want and doesn't hurt a lot
But there's like when I said mine to Senator Masa it said that she received so many receive response that they do read them Well and quite frankly anybody I'm sorry
I'm sorry Sorry I was just going to say any member of the public who would like to call our legislators and who um is interested in the success of our CRA or our Main Street program which is funded somewhat
by our CRA fund um they are more than welcome to make a call to Senator Lee's office and speak up or speak out saying that they're not in favor of some and commissioner having worked in
that arena years ago Um what are your thoughts on on them receiving phone calls from what do you think that what do you how do you think that um what are your thoughts on that do you
think the phone calls are are beneficial do you as with our staff members sitting there having to take those phone calls well let's put it this way Um we we don't have a crystal ball We don't know what will help Every legislative office
is probably somewhat different but the leadup city specifically said it's worth it to try to call the members of the rules committee each and everyone and leave a message That was their specific direction because I said
"We're being asked by a letter You're not saying write a letter What would you recommend?" And they said "Make a phone call." Frankly I think we should do both And um I'll be I mean the first letter that you sent was very very good You can
send it and send it to the committee Yeah sure If that's if that's what every that's what we're asking is is that what the commission would like for us to go ahead and and send that letter out to all of the um all the rules yes I think we should do everything we can and I
don't think it's unreasonable for us to get the list of phone numbers and call up and say who we are and um you know we have any friends or who want to call as well that's perfectly fine It doesn't take long to make a phone call And you said you the three
wanted the three of you can get that information to our clerk so that if anybody in the audience would be interested in that they can reach out to the and highlight the phone number at this time
Mr We need a motion on this for Can I just say one thing yes As you may know I sit through a lot of commission meetings in various places And I I know that some of the other cities are also taking action to get
things into their plan as soon as possible In the event that this does pass right you're going to get you'll be limited in your ability to amend the plan and put projects in it So there are many cities that are rushing to make
sure that in the event this uh does get passed They have projects which they can uh continue to pursue because they you're going to be limited your bill in plan uh if this pass I just
wanted to make sure that you guys have that Thank you And I think October is when we have to have that in place Is that correct if in fact this does pass And I know um Christina I know that you and Mr Bhart have been working on that as a presentation to us as to well we
were in the really the brainstorming part of identifying a project So that would the discussion should continue across the board you know I can identify a project or project some proposals and discuss it discuss and then yes and then
we have to also discuss how we fund it if we need to borrow I know there's um those the banks out there that are working with them to to help communities do something so over these projects it's real hard
having brought that up I guess maybe at the May at the May give us a report and then we'll start we have to workshop it So of course we have to workshop this but I think we need to definitely look at projects that as we look into the future and what we want with our CRA
Um my suggestion was going to be that we all look at our plan and see if there's anything that jumps out at us and we were thinking maybe we would do this another year No we got to do it We got to do it Yeah we have to do it now So let's put that on our workshop list I
know we're going to be workshopped out but we got a lot of things coming up Okay Do we have anything else um Mr Mr Holmes do we need to take a motion for us to for the letter to go out to to
these additional If you want to go out on behalf of the commission a motion would probably be appropriate If you want if you want to send it individually then let go on behalf of the commission as a whole But yes well I move that we
um send the letter to each of the members of the Senate rules committee on behalf of the city and the CRA um opposing Senate Bill 1242 Senate Bill 1242 Yes And maybe um the mayor could use the letter that
she sent before was very good I'll second that We have a motion in a second We have any other discussion we have any public comments all in favor please say I
I Okay Do you have anything else for CRA no Okay I'm going to close out CRA I do want to do this if everyone if if members you're okay with this Mr Brett has to travel back But let's go ahead
and take this item up and then I would like to take a 10-minute recess um for anybody that needs to take care of anything And Commissioner Moore and and we'll go ahead and share it with all of you all So she um provided us with her wonderful banana
pudding during our recess So we will make it available Just don't eat a whole lot That describes me Sorry about put in a safe and wonder exactly what that was about Okay with that we've got um our open up
our public hearing You've got a first reading of revised ordinance 2025-06 amending the public facilities element present city comp plan Mr Holl I'm going to hand it over to you 256 by title and ordinance of the city of Crescent City Florida amending the
public facilities element of the Crescent City Comprehensive Plan providing for implementing administrative actions providing for severability providing for conflicts providing for non-codification and providing for an effective bid Mr Would you like to speak to this
yes I would Uh are are you familiar with the the Gulf term of Mulligan Okay So so so that's what we're doing here tonight Uh this is a amendment to the comp plan Uh it's an amendment to
the water supply plan You guys have already seen this and you've already approved a transmission uh to the state of Florida That transmission was a little bit delayed but it did go out When it was received
by the Department of Commerce they had a problem with the form of the ordinance that was used on first reading to uh transmit the comprehensive plan So while
it was sent out to some of the the technical agencies to review the content and most particularly the water management district they have absolutely no issue with content of the amendment It really is just the form of the ordinance on
first reading which there there was a line in the ordinance right before signatures that said it was approved on first reading And so that was the problem that they had Okay But
this works This works Audent first reading We'll have to transmit it to uh the state again It will go out for review We already know what the reviewing agencies are going to say Uh but then we'll come back for
second reading and adoption Okay So do we have to be careful what we say when we make a motion do we say I move that we adopt proise ordinance 202506 is that acceptable language is
the you could adopt it on first reading or approve it for transmission That would be good Approve it for trans approve on first reading and transmission to Department of Commerce I think they'd be happy with that if they saw the minutes They they they won't
we're not going to be transmitting the minutes but Okay So you're saying approve on first reading revised ordinance 2025-06 for transmissional to the
Florida Department of Commerce That would be fantastic Then I move second We have a proper motion and a second Commissioners do we have any other discussion um and then once they approve this they'll send it back to us and we'll go
to second reading Correct Correct Okay See no one um having any comment I'm going to open it up for public comment Do we have any public comments see any public comment close public comment Um madame clerk I'm going
to ask you to do a roll call please Commissioner Burton I Commissioner Moore I Commissioner Lori Hi Commissioner Devito Hi Mayor Myers Hi Thank you Thank you We appreciate it
Thanks for the suggestion about the Yes Thank you Thank you very much Thank you Mar Be safe And I'm gonna take a 10 minute recess meeting is back in session We're going to go on to our business items and we
have before Mr Dodge Hello again commissioners Uh before I begin my presentation I want to thank Commissioner Moore for the delicious treat Very considerate We all enjoyed it
Also may I give the commissioners the these paintings by their green really add a great deal to this room Uh it's a wonderful thing that uh that they're up and and a nice surprise So thank you
Um this evening I'm before before you at this time to request uh the um on behalf of our historic marker for the covered house Uh as you know we've talked about this previously and u the um it is now
time to talk about it again because the the sort marker uh will should be ready by the end of uh May towards the end of May Um and uh so we're seeking two
things this evening as you can see by this the paperwork Uh the location will be hasn't changed from our earlier presentation and it is uh it is on North Lake Street as you can see it's at the
north uh west corner of uh of the property The language has stayed the same Um and we are asking two things this evening Um
well actually three Uh your your approval again of agreeing with us on the location of it Um uh assistance uh by the city public works to install it when it does arrive
And lastly to uh to help us financially to cover 50% of the cost The total cost is $3,415 and half of that is [Music] $1,7.50 Do you have any questions of me
you said the the picture would be at the northeast corner of of the property And it's going to be in the right way The city right away It's in the rightway on the west side of
North Lake Street Correct Yes Okay So you would put it um she's got the big tree there Where are you they said that where are you looking at on her property put that be at the north the north boundary
line I think Are you looking at north boundary line or did you not put it north towards the middle of our house i think at the bottom of the hill so pull over and stop Well that's what I'm saying
But line right house not down there It's north city Yeah See what I'm saying you don't want to think that's a house You want it right in front of I would think you want it
right in front of her house Okay So my question is this was before us previously Did we approve placement of the sign in the right of way and I believe um Mr Dodge's memo I can't
find the board I believe it asks for um the city public works staff to do the installation do the physical installation and provide That's right
ready mixed concrete Correct Okay And we haven't done that before I believe we voted on that's why I believe I voted not to No it was we did not vote to contribute to the
cost of the right What I'm what I'm addressing right now is the authorization to put the marker in the right of way and to have the city staff
um do the installation and provide the readiness um if we don't So those are those going to be those are going to be different items action items I believe So may we take the first the placement
and mayor did you have a suggestion on placement no sir No sir I just thought that Commissioner Lori said it was at the the boundary line and I thought that it should be my thinking that it should be more in front of the house that
people know which house you're actually referring to As you get closer to the boundary line you don't want them to think it's the house next door to it by chance Right You never know You never know And I think that's something that just needs to be inspection Yeah I I do agree We want
it to be down the hill at the bottom of the hill right away Absolutely Sorry I apologize I miss and right and preferably not hacking up any tree roots when we do as commissioner said visual inspection make
sure it's the right spot Um that's not destroying something that doesn't need to be destroyed Um so mayor did you mean that was too I was just I was going to make a motion to authorize the use of the right way Um and you think it should
be a separate motion to No Yeah If you're going to use it with our with our employees the separate motion should be the monetary request I wasn't even addressing that I was just going to authorize the right way and the city staff in place it Okay So um so
commissioners I move that um we authorize the Fruitland Peninsula Historical Society in consultation with city staff to place the historic marker for the Hubard Morris house in the city
right away at an appropriate location on Lake Street Um and that we authorize uh city staff to actually install the marker and provide the readymix concrete that is necessary I'll second that Okay
we have a proper motion and a second Any discussion okay Um Christina is that would that be the staff yes We have a proper motion in a second Do we have any um public
comment seeing no public comment Commissioner Devito Hi Commissioner Lorie Hi Commissioner Moore Hi Commissioner Burton Hi Mayor Buyers Hi and and mayor may I suggest that uh uh
sometime prior uh I'd be happy to to go out with with the public works people and look at the site and discuss any issues of tree roots or so forth Sure You want to get with Christina just coordinate that with Christina
absolutely Be happy to Absolutely Thank you And now let's move on to the money And now let's get to the big question Pardon me Commissioner but remember I I warned you I was coming back
So I'm back Yes I don't know that we actually voted and I'm sorry you're still presenting Well so now I'm requesting uh the funds Um as we all know uh this is a a very
important uh restoration and thorough it's a fine example of of excellence and of course the u Mr and Mrs Morris purchased the house in 1987 They lived in it during the restoration So it is
it's a wonderful thing and I'd like to point out the benefit of the community by having this historical markers and there's a great opportunity a fine examples of where these markers should be throughout our fine
city but they they do cost and um the historical preservation society and our members believe that it's a wonderful contribution ution and benefit to the city Um however it does come with
a a cost and um and um the let's face it uh historical society we manage but we're not a large organizations financially So we we
secure your help Well I think if I remember correctly though the and I don't have everything in front of me I really wish that I did from our last discussion of this but um my memory if it kind of serves me
half right anyway Uh the particular the particulars and and why we voted it down was this is a the marker that you bought Anybody can buy a back marker really and put it on their house It's not a a
um a certified kind of historical marker from the National Register if I remember correctly you know So I can put one on my house too My house is built in 1905 Wait a minute I don't know what houses
designed for that They're side doublesided Well no but I'm I'm just saying that you can purchase those and and and you know this is this is not you didn't go and qualify it
through the the regular the regular application that you need need to fill out to actually call it a nationally registered home I don't I don't I I'm I'm afraid I didn't bring anything here I think I can make a little
clarification there This the reason the historical society wants to have this house recognized is because a it is the only structure in Crescent City that is individually not as part of historic
district individually listed on the National Register of Historic Places and it was beautifully restored by Molly Morris and her husband and and she maintains it and the idea is to recognize that It's my understanding
because I've looked into stored markers for the historic society Um even if you qualify for a state marker I believe you have to pay for it yourself unless you get a grant Is that not correct sure And if you qualify for the National Register
you still have to pay for your marker They don't give you a marker The difference is um this this particular marker and there are markers that meet a certain requirement and there are markers that don't And you're right you
can buy a marker for your house I don't know if you're if you can say that it's on the National Register of Historic Places and it's not Well it could have a marker right but well I mean that wouldn't be accurate but anyway
I I don't remember May I ask Dan um does this marker specifically say that the house is on the National Register and does that follow an approved format because I know we have a couple of other markers in town We have one we
talked about this before um we have one at AM Baptist Church that talks about the church and Randolph and I believe there's a marker at our bicesentennial park that I could have mistaken about that So that's a different read such as
perhaps the finest residence of this period in Florida and was placed on the historic national register of historic places in 1973 So it does state stated rather finely The other point is of course
um Commissioner Bon it would be very nice to get an official uh sign However the time delay that it would take and the probably the additional expense would be extensive So we are
thinking we are concerned about money and we are concerned that uh about the time of getting this done uh in honor of the Morris family and the fine work that they've done and and really it's not that makes it
official I mean you have the state program which is through the state of Florida and you have to go through the historic um historic commission in Tallahassee that they discuss and do all the boarding but then still the the applicant has to pay for it But this is
a program that we wanted to start for South Public for Crescent City And even on there at the bottom it said that this is placed by the Clint Historical Study and the city of Crescent City Um and that's what makes it a legitimate marker is that these two organizations put their names behind it and say that this
is a historic place and it's important to us I mean and that's that's one of the reasons why you know this is something that we want that the historical society wants to do on a yearly basis to recognize and to point out these very important masterpieces basically in our in our channel So how
many more masterpieces do we have in our stage i I'm just curious so that we can budget for them for next year because this not in the budget anywhere One a year every day So So we have one a year My gosh So we must have quite a lineup
So I'm just wondering Well in fact we do We're rich with them and we'll have more once our historic survey is done which is soon But this kind of came as a surprise you know you guys went out and you and you bought this and and I and I have to agree It's
a beautiful home Yes it really is a beautiful home I love Molly Morris Uh and I think that it should be recognized However I just don't like the way you did it You you just kind of went and you ordered this thing and then you came in and asked us for half the money And and
I and I think you know if we're going to move forward with doing this once a year it'd be nice for you to give us a list of all the months that you want so that we can uh at least plan for one year and make sure that it's in our budget So I'm just maybe I'm
being facitious here or whatever but you know I'm just saying well thank you for sharing your thoughts They're very important to us and we apologize uh if we
uh brush this along in your opinion We didn't intend to Um however I I'm sure and I'm delighted that you agree with us the importance of doing it Oh well I do And um it is something that we would
like to come back once a year uh with uh with a nomination uh and as you recommend uh we will do it sooner uh and matter of fact we're thinking about it now because it takes it takes a
long time to get these signs produced and I and I I do I do understand what Commissioner Burton's saying is you put a name on it you made a partner made partner with that but the commission never has not given that approval as such to do that and so that's a that's
that's that's where I believe it's coming from when you do that and you ask us to be a partner you know um we understand and going forward knowing now this is what you want to do then we need to make sure
that we figure out a way to budget this even in our community we could put this in our community budget line that we do for the library every year You know we pretty much know the library We we try our best to to give that
Um this is just right now Um and and it is I know $1,700 doesn't seem like a big ask but right now it's it's a big ask Well and for the historical society 3,400 is a is a much bigger one And
again I apologize that we didn't approach you earlier on this Uh and certainly in the future we we want you very much involved Um and you will be at an early start And I don't think we're
we're in no means are we being critical We're just saying that when please in the future you know bring us bring us bring us along Yes bring us bring us along if this is something that you want and when we do a budget when we start in
our budget making sure that you know that you speak up and ask us to somewhere enough put this into our in our budget because this is now going to be sounds to me like an ongoing project doesn't want to be part of it I mean it sounds like I mean we they did
bring it to us they did bring it to us as a city commission before we ordered it but the city commission approve it you said you didn't want be part of it Okay Well we brought it uh we brought it in December maybe and and I think to to
Commissioner Burton's point is that it should have been brought sooner so that to demonstrate more of a partnership which kind of you know our start budgeting in well actually the end
of this month we start budget Sure So um Commissioner my suggestions and I like to be consistent I do not like to appropriate money peace meal and as much
time and effort and my own family's resources that we put toward the historical society I don't want to make a peace meal allocation It's my understanding Do we not have um an ordinance coming before us at some point
to deal with um the the fund balance that was brought forward we actually voted to bring that forward So um at this point um I mean I'm certainly willing to consider the city being a partner either this year and also in
future years but I do not want to take up one particular item um outside of the broader budget ordinance because we we still have a lot of budgeting to do and we have a lot of operational requests So
I'm really glad that brought this forward but I think at this point um it's it's time to move on to our other agenda items And we are going to be budgeting and we're apparently we voted
to bring back an ordinance to deal with the carry forward So I think that would be a more appropriate time When you take delivery of this have you taken Have y'all taken delivery already at the time no we haven't No When do you
take delivery we estimate later in May When is the um when are you hoping to have are you going to have some sort of a dedication or anything there on the property once the sign goes up oh yes absolutely And we hope to do do
that in later May We we're just waiting for a more definite time ceremony in May 2025 And we just want to make sure we have the sign Okay commissioners Okay you ready to move forward
well I'm ready for the next agenda if that's what you mean by move forward because Thank you And thank you commissioners for your input It's always helpful Thank you We'll get there Okay
Christina All right next topic is fireworks As you know historically yacht club has done our um June fireworks display Months ago they advised that they would not be presenting the fireworks any longer asked that the city
take it over and um we are ready to move forward with that before you I put a contract from Santo Santo is the fireworks company that the clubs work with throughout the years and um I'm just asking for your
approval to move forward with the contract and um with of course Dr council reviewing it I've secured funding the yacht clubs obligated up to $8,000 and I secured another sponsor for the balance So there's no um that it
wouldn't cost the city anything I have confirmed with our insurance agent through Florida W Cities that we are covered from the liability aspect and um we're good to go And this item is one um and and again Mr
John you'll you'll you'll be able to hopefully appreciate our position where we are right now is we've been doing these firework we haven't the yacht club has been doing these fireworks for years and it brings out many communities Um they've decided that from a liability
standpoint they no longer want to do that However they would sponsor but they want to sponsor up to $8,000 Santory the fireworks based on everything going up there are $10,200 now And so Christina has been racking her brain trying to figure out
where she's going to find an additional $2,200 um so that we don't disappoint the community And thankfully thank you for doing so Um she reached out to several vendors and one stepped up and
uh offered to take care of the additional addition Okay Sir I have a question on this Um I remember the [Music] conduit come Jordan presented this and
they said they would be paying for it and when we got the original agenda packet all that was there was a letter from the Santory company and it mentioned both June and January the 1st which I don't I don't want to go there
December Um but my question to our interim manager at that time or you know what are we approving the contract what are we approving and also
um now my my question is we are we are actually um sticking our neck out entering into a contract with Santory and do we have the cash in hand not yet but you will Okay Because when I
look at this contract we've just got today and our city attorney had a chance to review it She just said she just got Okay that's what I mean Because cancellation if we cancel for any reason this is on the second
page I think in item eight um immediately once signing it you're on the hook for 25% of the signed contract Um it goes up to 70% Well let's see You're on the
hook Basically if we cancel 29 to 11 days prior we're on the hook for 35% I mean I'm I'm just concerned that we would sign this contract before we have the funds in hand from the yacht club because if they
wind up not funding it we still have to pay for it Got it That's a lot of money Yes Um and I would ask Don's recommendation Perhaps we could enter into a memorandum of understanding with the yacht club since
they're allocating most of the funds I'm not sure I'll let our attorney use his discretion on that How how contractually speaking you should set this up I know Don Mr You dealt with this in black So with the black and fireworks So do you
have any recommendations we didn't we already always had the funds in hand before we signed the contract Either we were going to fund them from the city or with benefactors Um the contracts are relatively straightforward I mean I've read it a while I didn't see it for night but I
read it just now It's relatively straightforward Um I'm sure it's their standard contract and Santos I don't know who all they do it for but they were the ones that we contracted with a lot from the city of black as well They're the ones that have always done out here club as well So as far as the
yacht club I don't know what their structure is really or or whatever So as far as understanding what do you have or something like that yes Yeah we have communication and they would measure into the commission was more comfortable
with it being when would they pay i'm not sure if I know um they want 50% down signing contract don't they was I wrong with that yeah No at the time this agreement is made as evidence by the execution of
this writing client will pay one half as set for the pair of two So so that's $5,100 I guess when you sign this right so we would have to have that we'd have to have that from the yacht club The
yacht club would have to um transmitted that money to us or at least that amount to us with the commitment that they were going to get I would just um like permission to go you know times going by quickly and I'd like to secure the fireworks um for the
community with the exception of um having Mr Holmes review the contract I'd really just like permission to to get it secured Um I can bring back to you specific um more specifics as far as the funding but the yacht club has basically
Dr Jordan has been given his word on behalf of the yacht club that they would obligate up to 8,000 and um Exfinity has um obligated 3,000 So actually the yacht club will be a little less out of their um they'll be 7200 and Excinity will be
contributing 30,000 Do you have a deadline for signing this no but he can modify the dates This was just something I asked him to let present it this evening and and bring it before you Well I just mean though do they have to be do you have to have the commitment with them by a certain date have they got
other You did that Obviously time is of the essence The good thing with our fireworks is it's a week before um 4th of July so we're in a little bit better of a position trying to get Fourth of July but they're pretty flexible They know I was bringing it before the
commission They understand our circumstance with the our sponsors And um basically I would just like to um again secure it They did express to me that because of the um tariffs prices are increasing and of course the high order is coming from China So um that's
that's also something to be mindful of Okay But to me the kicker is all of our organizations in Crescent City are very small Um even if we have a memorandum of understanding with the yacht club if they wind up not coming up with the
money I don't think there's anything we can do to actually require them to pay Um and I particularly noted Mr Holmes said that they had money in hand before
they signed the contract right okay But this is a lot of money When this was first proposed when this was first proposed by the yacht club they told us that they wanted us to take this over because of
the liability issue and they would provide the funding over right but I think we need to have the funding before we signed the contract So Mr Home so that we I mean I think what we have to we the commission we've got to decide here do we want to offer we want
fireworks for the community or do we not and so um and if we do then we've got to go through whatever we need to go through to make sure we secure that Mr Holmes is there anything that we need to do with the yacht club to make sure that they in fact will pay what they have
agreed to pay our yacht club is I mean this is the integrity of our yacht club too So we don't want they've done this for years There's a balance there I mean obviously sometimes you insult folks by trying to get a contract with them over a donation
that they're making So I guess uh I guess it is a bit of a a leap of faith but you you had a long history with that yacht club and I don't think no one no one has has has indicated that there's any reason not to trust their
representation Mildly concern was that you going to have to have the money in hand or $50 or $100 of it when you sign the contract I was just trying to figure out by what date you had to sign the contract Understanding that they might have commitments for different things you know other events But as Christina
said if they're if we're a week early before Fourth of July then maybe that lessens that that pressure But but the contract does state that 5100 bucks has to go with it when you sign it So and you and you're only talking about
contributing three of it So that lead to 20 or 21 right none of our money any of this I was assuming that they were going to be contributing to you that you were going to pay All right All right So you're you're coming with
three Le's coming or Comcast or whatever Eddie's coming with three God's coming up with eight But you're going to be the conduit Yes So if you have concerns about this money I think that we could at least um commissioners we could at
least give Christina the authority to um work with the yacht club and Santo making sure that Santo is aware that she can't sign this until she has the money in hand Um they've dealt with the yacht club for many many years so they
understand that as well And if in fact we lose out the Um but at least we've given her the approvals that she needs with an understanding that we don't want to enter into a contract without money in hand And by the money do you have a
specific amount in mind the the down payment or the entire amount We need to do a motion contingent upon me receiving funds and um club and the other sponsor and working with Santory
I have a motion I move that we authorize the intim city manager to enter in a contract with Centtory um and work out the details of getting the money for the down payment but just to move with expediency on her part
Okay we have a second Well I would support the motion if we authorized her to sign the contract once she had the funds sufficient to pay Do you want to mention no because I trust the death club They're going to pay the money We They've been doing this
for 15 years You think they're just going to not do it now i mean we kind of have to have faith in our citizens and our residents Are we going to do fireworks or not we're having a trade war with China The price is going to double if we don't sign a contract So so
I have a motion Second Okay We have a proper motion and a second Do we have any further discussion well I I do not see we did not this did not come to us asking us to pay for the fireworks that this is $10,000
We're not paying for the fireworks if Okay Commissioner Lori and I participate in two organizations in town together organizations change from year to year
Um I don't think that it is fair to the residents of Crescent City when everything is going up in price to say that we will agree to be on the vote for these funds because the minute we sign that contract that's exactly what we said And I don't think it's unreasonable
Um the language the mayor used said authorize this interim city manager to sign the contract when we had the funds in hand and to coordinate with Santory and let them know that the contract is coming and that she is coordinating and I think that certainly
protects our city Yeah because otherwise we've withdraw my motion You make the motion so you have to resend yours Okay I didn't hear it He withdrew it So um I'm going to try to track the
mayor's language I move that we authorize our inter city manager um to enter into a contract for the um what is that the white fireworks for June 28th
um to sign the contract at such time and not until that she has the funds in hand to pay for the expense of the fireworks And so she can sign the contract but she first has to have the funds and she can
coordinate with santory to make sure that they will hold that spot for us I'll show you Okay we have the proper motion in a second Um Christina do you feel that that that's going to be an issue i mean I
have a um Comcast that um I just covered from Comcast earlier about um approval of the sponsorship of their team I'll work on getting them an invoice tomorrow but I know time is of the essence I'll do the same with the club and I'll try to as
soon as possible Okay Thank you So we have a proper motion and a second Do we have any public discussion any public okay See we're going to close public comment Um Commissioner Burton
Hi Commissioner Moore I Commissioner Lorie Hi Commissioner I Mayor Myers I approve [Music] We're going to move on to Well you have minutes and
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attached clearly cleared clear yes ma'am I have attached sample minutes in your contracts uh they provide verbatim minutes short minutes workshops we provide them with a template who set it
Yeah The thing I didn't like about the um alloy I guess is the way you say that Well it's it's based on Apple It's based on Apple a lot of software needs
Okay The sound clear um would allow us not to upgrade every piece of equipment that we have which is a plus But does this um sound clear does this include microphones and all the equipment yes it does The total
package estimate the quote was $26 and that's for as a voice tracker microphone kit 695 It also is a transcription service They offer municipalities a 20% discount Um
how does this voice for your license has microphones for each one of us and wires run between them This is not this is a one one microphone correct for everybody just to run into your system
right correct So this is not going to improve our audio situation in this room whereas the second one that you have would have new speakers that could be moved forward that would actually make it so everyone can hear us and everything else and replace all of this
technology So this is not apples and apples This is two separate things really Correct Because this is the transcription software and then the other app is telling me what we currently have now work with their product It's a standalone That's that's not going to make it better for
everybody here to hear us because of these microphones and how outdated the system is and the mic the speakers up on the wall That well there's a significant price difference I don't understand I don't know But we were also discussing spending the
money to create the audio in this room to make it better I think it's two separate things Well that's what I'm saying It's two separate things I think so I'd like to make a motion to um move forward to purchase the Sonic
Clear Trail Systems for our recorder or what do you want to call this for our transcription service um I guess for 2690 We have a motion and a second We have
any um other discussion on this i have some questions Okay Okay So my first question is and thank you for looking into this Um from Sonic clear what I'm looking at the first page that was in our package It said it includes 40 hours
of transcription Okay So for our commission that would not quite cover all of our commission meetings here right here I'm not sure
Just 40 hours of transcription is not 40 hours free I I I do not see what the additional minute per page I'm not sure what that entail so I mean I'm not I'm not really sure
what this means what it will cover um and then so I mean I would like to be clear on that is this going to cover because right now we're having workshops special meetings um obviously
the regular meetings seem to take most um in terms of minutes and then as well this is only once we purchase this this is going forward correct like it won't um it won't transcribe anything that we
have on tape on YouTube is that is that right that's correct yes because it's with their system but and also this would be an annual cost at least the non microphone partition From what I
understand if we look at the because one's you're talking about capital at the bottom at 900 I can't see $695 that would just be a onetime purchase Then the other $1,900 would be an annual thing Um exactly And so one concern I
have I mean I'm not I'm not sure what's changed I know we've had great turnover in personnel We currently have a backlog of minutes both for the commission and for the boards So obviously
something has changed Um well no I'll tell you the firewall So it's my understanding because um I don't know if you've ever sat over here at this desk but um to have that quiet time to be able to take care of doing the minutes
Karen oftent times had to do that after um after hours on her own and she had a computer that she would do that and um the firewall is my understanding has not allowed um any activity for how many months yes ma'am I haven't had a VPN
number since I started Yes that's purchasing a new firewall In order for them to work from home or work in a computer that's remote you have to have a VPN which scramles and encrypts your signal And if the firewall that we have is out of date and needs to be
replaced which is why we approve that purchase by 10 Yes And so that needs to be installed so that they can continue to do their work That's what one of the things we mentioned is the fact that the firewall is out of date and they weren't able to use their VPNs So they can't
access anything on any computers insights at all And hopefully hopefully um just this I think this last week we did they did a change with the door open so that because it's it's a continuous I mean if you're there it's a continuous interruption So when you're trying to do
the minutes and you're listening to them you're having to go between the bad speakers and them watching the audio I mean I've sat there with Karen before and you know her in tears almost because um so it's it's it's it's labor It's
very labor intensive There's technology that all of these technology that's come a long way in order to make a lot easier to do these things And I don't think that I mean we should give her the tools necessary to do this Um and I appreciate the fact that she researched this Thank you very much Commissioner Lori I I will
also say for the record um the minutes were behind when I started This is obviously your clerk was overworked before So and here's the thing You know our clerk is a salaried employee Yeah And um salaried employees you know for
the most part They work more than 40 hours a week and they don't get paid anything actually for that They might get a day off okay if you're here for you know our long meetings tonight you know things
like that But you're here for for all the meetings that you know it it just it if this can help you know bundle that up so that things can get done a little quicker I think it's important I agree with commission that we should give you
that tool to do that No my question is are we taking this out of the additional the money we put in the line item for city hall is do you know where this is coming where this is going to come from i have no idea Can we make it come out of the city hall
improvements [Music] okay Part of it is but I mean the microphone package is true So but if I make a motion to Oh I move that we go ahead and approve the purchase of the Sonicare package
We already have a motion in a second We were discussing where it's where it's going to come from Sorry Um I think that to you know and this is like with everything with all of our employees It's our public works everybody You have
to give them the tools to do the job and and we've been doing this the oldfashioned way for a very long time and it's very stress and it's very very stressful That's the most stressful part I think of probably the the whole job is knowing that's hanging over your
shoulder these minutes Um that's what I've been told anyway from the clerks and um so I think that's what we need to do We're going to do that So with that um I'm going to ask you do you have commissioner yes I would
just like to say um I don't necessarily see anything wrong with this but I think we should do it in the context of our larger budget discussion even with carryover funds I just don't think we're doing the right thing when we peacemail the budget And as well I do think we
need to reflect and I hope whoever we hire for city manager reflect Um we had an administrative assistant who have no problem doing the minutes
and doing the minutes for PNC and other um the other boards I would not judge um how minutes are supposed to be done by our last clerk Um she was a great person
but I don't think it was I really No I really don't I really don't feel that way We come in here and we publicly chastise our employees No I'm not chesting our employee She's not our employee And I think this is But she was our employee Okay But this is a very
important point That was not her strong point She was not trained in it She had not done it previously Um I always took note of that And I don't I don't think we can we're past that But we're using
it as the criteria for what we should do going forward And that is not necessarily um a good criteria to use in going forward Well I'm not using that in going forward I'm saying that we need to give them the proper tools that they
need to do the job that we've asked them to do Yes I I'd just like to chime in as someone that's worked with a clerk for our city clerk for over three years um and have watched the minutes continually being an issue Internally the way we
operate internally um it's very stressful for the clerk um to say the least Melanie since she started has done a fabulous job and yes she has the commission meetings and all the board meetings She's also had special meetings She started January 8th We were in city
manager recruitment mode there There were several special meetings impromptu The minutes kept adding up and adding up Our planning and zoning agendas and other agendas There's a lot of projects going on in town There are people that are in and out all day for permits and
not just a continual revolving door where the clerk doesn't stop She doesn't work behind a closed office So she's not able to hone in on her her work and and um focus on it There's been just continual interruptions That's why we've made the um the decision to close the
front door of city hall so she could try to work more efficiently We're now diverting all of the public traffic through utility billing It's also a safety issue We've had an issue where a gentleman came into the office and was wandering around city hall We felt unsafe and um so you know the least we
can do is provide our staff with the adequate tools and um to be quite honestly we're not doing it right now We are Thank you Commissioner Bart you had something well I agree and and uh you know Commissioner Deo you go back to
when we first when I first became a commissioner our meetings lasted an hour and our minutes were about not even a half page you know Um we've gotten more and more sophisticated in what we're doing you've got more and
more uh you know there's just a lot more going on now than there was uh almost six years ago Quite a bit more than there was And so a big difference and the other thing too is we we have a we have u I'm not one for a whole uh book
on on minutes for each meeting I'm I'm one with bullets I like bullets and I like it to be quick We we have other commissioners that like books written and those books take a lot longer than bullets So let's go ahead and let's go
ahead and go forward If you would please if I could please I just want to say for the record I agree about the security issue This is apples and oranges and I have suggested before that our reception area needs to be better secured and
safer apples and oranges and I do not agree that we have more going on now I don't say this isn't needed I don't think it's exactly the right time not the right way And we had just as much going on ever since I started going to
commission meetings at different times And we did not have a problem with the minutes And I think we need to cl Commissioner Devito Nay Commissioner Rory Hi Commissioner Bourne Hi Commissioner Burton Hi Mayor
Meyers and I I want to say to the commission um that for four and a half years um chastising our clerk um just does not work for four and a
half years after a meeting oftent times I have them in tears in my office and we it's I'm I'm just I'm sorry but it just is so
upsetting that we publicly chastise our clerk who and especially when we get one that's good and she's working hard and she's dedicated and and it it is it's very difficult If we have an issue with our clerk please don't do it here publicly Take it to the city manager
Excuse me Are you saying that I am chastising Melody absolutely I'm saying that No Are you suggesting I am chastising her i feel like you are Well you're wrong Okay Well you're wrong
Now I feel like I am correct and ask other commissioners if they feel the same way Are you uncomfortable with the comments i comments I just want to I would like to end this conversation It's really not going anywhere and I'd like to suggest
to everybody I have a point of order First of all point of order Our rules that we have adopted that are published on our website say that commissioners are to speak to each other not the audience So please confine your remarks to the other commissioners That's I am talking to the
commission Commissioner Burton is not she wants to address I want to move forward My my in addressing the audience she said I want to say to everyone my second point is you have personally all voted to make an espersion and
misconstrue my remarks My criticism is to the way this commission has operated in the past to make sure that we did not require our city manager and our former clerk to adhere to standards of order
and efficiency We did not do that There was no chastising our opinion right we did not And I want to be very clear about that I am very happy with our current personnel and it is not I that has turned this into an
accusation of personalities I'm talking about us all of them You're the one that pointed yourself that you're the one that identified You just asked for a vote about how the commission feels about my comments We're
moving forward Thank you Would you like to address the um the urban tree um I'd like to pull that from the agenda You want to pull that yes You want to explain why i um we have time more time than we anticipated when I drafted this
bid and and added it to the packet I've since confirmed with the Department of Forestry that we have plenty of time There's no rush for this and I'd like to um it would be more applicable if we put it out for bid closer to the time we were going to plant which would be in the winter months Okay that's good So
commissioners can I have um a motion to take this until do you have a time specific um on it maybe around summer time do you commission have any with this
well my recommend I think our interim city manager has good recommendation she has new information Um and as well I think the people to comment on this would be the tree and garden board especially Miss Bowererman
who owned a nursery and is well verssed in how nurseries operate Um so I think that a the tree and larger should be asked to find a good timing I move that we make a list
that brings back us Do I have a motion or a second i have a motion Do I have a second we have a motion and a second Any other discussion just Okay All in favor yes Say the inter city manager has done
fabulous work Yes All in favor please say I Name update on the city manager search Um mayor I'd like to back up on the urban tree grant One of the elements of the grant
requirements is to hold a public education meeting regarding the trees that are to be planted Okay and we're just asking the commission to approve us to move forward with coordinating that um those public outreach or public education sessions pertaining to the
grant Okay The training guard the tree and garden working with you on that Yes they're already um it's all underway I just wanted to bring it before you so you were aware and could give us permission to to hold public meetings accordingly I move that we give the training
cardboard the permission to plan these public information sessions I'll second it Okay We have a motion and a second Do we have any further discussion all in favor please say I I Oppos nay So approved Thank you I guess
we're going to go to the update on city manager search Um as of um this afternoon all confirmed for the 22nd Um they will be coming in um we have one
that will be coming in um at about 1:00 be flying into Orlando at about 1:00 and said that they will um would like to be on the tour So I think if we were to do a tour possibly about 3:00 and then have them back It's
about an hour tour anyway coming back and forth for a public reception Yeah I know We're gonna try He's gonna try So we're going to try Um and then all but one um they set up
everything for the background checks and they have to send their information in to the background company directly old one as of this afternoon had done that and I believe that one was working on it So that has um started and and she hopes
to have that by the by the end of the by the end of the week if if not by the first definitely of um of next week Not good on one of them are disinviting them Well they might have a ticket it
might give them an opportunity to um come forward and and tell us um what they're what they're doing Um so that's where that's where we are with that We do have to talk about um as we go forward with that interview We didn't talk about
um we talk about questions If you want to just have um standard questions we can't do that here tonight But if we want to just have um like we did last time um
I'm sorry the last the last full go around Okay Tuesday Yes Commissioner Yes Um I had the same thought about the questions So these people have confirmed for Tuesday the 22nd What is it
um is there any one of us who is not available on Monday to do a preparation for this interview because we can't ask them the same questions we asked them all on the road
Um it would seem helpful to me to prepare a little bit and also how long will we all per um I talked to Jim about that told him that we did 40 minutes as last time
and we stayed right on time Um I don't know that it's going to be in the evening so I don't know that we want to go over 40 minutes I mean I think 40 minutes is ample time but and in 40minut increments Yes commissioner Sure My thought was I mean
we've we had interviews with them on Zoom Um I actually I don't know how the rest of the commission feels about it but I felt like the last time we had a reception that was very valuable that one more casual time What happened at
4:00 okay And is it October 12th is it going to be the same duration are we just doing hour to 5 or 4 to 5:30 we're only doing 4 to 5 Okay So we've just got an hour for these four people and then we're going right into the interviews
Yeah Okay So we don't want to do I think last time we had an hour with folks So we just want to do an hour I think an hour's good Okay Um unless commissioner I mean that's I'm one person How does everyone
feel will you feel that an hour um for four people is that is everyone is everyone in agreement that an hour is a good time for reception which gives us opportunity to
Okay so the reception can be for and then we're just going to go right into our interviews and I would agree I thought 40 minutes was perfectly sufficient and are George and Jim going to be there george and Jim do not know if they're going to be here Um I have um
talked to Jim he was getting with George Um quite possibly they might if they can't be here that we we'll do them for the day and allow them to listen on Zoom I did share with him and for everybody in the audience again this will not be live streamed that you'll have to be
here present to um in the interview process and come to the reception and come to the reception and and to meet the candidates So you're asking us on Monday if we want to um get together We still have a list of
questions So we can go through those questions and send those the clerk can send those out to everyone Um but I'm saying we need to meet together to decide what they are We can in other words to coordinate our Okay it's Monday What does everyone's calendar look like
on Monday 3:00 afternoon better 3:00 first thing in the morning is better for me because you break up the whole day at 3:00 in the afternoon Commissioner warnings is not like the morning Everybody wants to do 3:00 3:00
Well I mean it doesn't matter to me I can do I prefer morning myself doesn't have to be at 8:00 It can be at 10:00 Is 10:00 So 10:00 on the 21st Sure
Okay So we can do that Is that a workshop or is that a meeting that would be a special meeting because we'll not and that will not be live streamed That will not be live streamed
Special and that be live streamed So are we good everybody satisfied with that okay She will let us know if there's any issues Um and I I do want to address I do want to say this that um Christina
uh as we know and and I apologize for the paper Um the paper did speak and I'm not sure how the information um Christina did apply and we we we greatly appreciate that interest in you going
down this path and the performance that you've done for us thus far as the city manager is to be commended Thank you Um and um it has nothing to do with us not believing in you and not thinking that
you don't have the capability to move the city forward and um and whoever we choose we know that you as their um assistant city manager will guide and direct them and we ask that they guide and direct you as well
So as you go down this path you'll be successful And I think that's what we've all tried to do and looked out for is to make sure that we set you up for success and and and not for anything otherwise Thank you And as we go into the budget process I do believe it's very important
that for Christina that um she also we make sure that she's a member of the um what are all the acronyms icma FCA all FCCA And so um I talked to Jim about that and and he felt that too and said
he would also offer some mentorship and um making sure that you get out there network and and have that opportunity and those workshops you'll learn a tremendous amount That's really one of the best parts about FCCMA especially is having them as mentors and then helping
you know guide you In fact on the FCCMA website has a really good long video series about what you'd want to be a city manager and what it takes and they talk to a lot of you know former city managers or current city managers It was actually really interesting I liked it
I applied for the job out of my love for Crescent City not because I'm looking to to move to Florida or be a city manager anywhere else I chose this job because I love the town that I live in Thank you all And and if you could
please since um since I have been working with you all for over three years I would like to ask if I could have a letter of recommendation to add to to my resume Thank you Well we hope you'll stay here
[Music] We do I just wanted to make sure that it's not that we we value you tremendously and we have um I will say this from a staff standpoint having been here in the office the last six months have been pretty rough with staff I've been very
concerned I felt like the dominoes were falling around us But I have seen a true lift in spirits um within our staff and um I I think that has a lot to do with both you and Melanie um and just encouraging the staff and being there to
support them So thank you for that and I know you'll continue that in your professional roles I just didn't think that the paper gave her enough accolades I've got it I was wondering what was going on I guess
Yeah Okay With that we're going to go to the update of the 2023 24 audit workshop with um Steve Yeah The 2023 2024 audits We've uh received the uh preliminary audit
request list at the end of March We've been working on uh getting the auditors all the requested items They've also sent us their final audit request list We're going to start working on those also Um their intention is to start their field work on 527 and be done by
uh June 30th Cool So much faster Yeah We have any questions um just um just one one question Mr Pap Thank
you very much So basically it sounds like we're going to be will be done by June 30th but that means we'll just be a shade late getting into the state Well June 30th pardon June 30th right
but I'm saying I'm not sure I understood you correctly that the work will be done and it will be presented to us by June 30th or it will actually be in the hands of the state by June 30th Their goal is to be have presented and in the state hands by June 30th Oh well that's good
news Thank you Thank you for everything you've done That was your first audit You got us through it And it's my understanding from both you and Julian the city is in good financial hands Yes
state regardless of what others say But even Julie that you see there's a couple more in here Every time I come by your truck is here So I
know truck is here trying to get us back on track and we appreciate that there Worth that Let's go to our workshops to be scheduled We've got quite a few workshops If everybody has a calendar we've got the Crescent City
Natural Gas Department We ask that Katie come back and give us a presentation as we move forward with our gas department We've got a lot of changes coming up coming up in that Um we've got the fire department capital needs You'll see the backup in that the
chief has already provided you with um information um that he wants to go over with us um audit 2023 fiscal year I don't know that I think we've really we don't need
for that Um I don't think that is listed the way I originally proposed it It's okay But the idea was that um we should spend some time in a workshop
um looking at the proper procedures that were supposed to follow one of our deficiencies Um when they did the testing they found that 40% of our payments or invoices did not have the proper documentation None of us I don't know maybe
Commissioner Rory did have received training in what the proper procedures are and we're the ones signing checks We all signed those checks but didn't have proper so the idea is to have some time does outside of a meeting to go over
hopefully um Mr Ko will help us with this um to review what the procedures are and what kind of documentation we need to be following Well and I think that that's probably that's more procedural and not policy So I think you need to we need to ask them to give us
to to present to us a procedure um the procedures that they should that they should be following or that they already following so that we have that Yes Yes We um actually had some discussion on this earlier today in our staff meeting Um and particularly Steve
and I there are some issues going forward having some issues as far as purchase orders and things of that nature from our account scale department that we need to improve and they're on it We're on it and um I think we do have the language and that narrative that
states our procedure that we're to follow when it comes to that It has been a ding on our audit Um so as soon as I was aware of it I got with Mr Compl United staff and we're we're going to be adhering to the procedure so we can share that with you language um as far
as that procedure when it comes to purchase orders and and payments on invoices and things like that and and otherwise where you would be and that's your expertise that's your looking to right but I mean I think
um when the auditor was here I said what is our role do we have responsibility and he said you're you are ultimately responsible for making sure that the right procedures are in order And my thought was number one the staff would present them to us and number two they
would review with us what our responsibilities are Okay Well that's a little different So well there's there's two parts of it Yeah But I'm thinking back I mean the guess it's partly on us and sometimes um we don't sometimes we don't have the
right documentation So we'll set so we'll set for that and you can come in and give us our um the go over the procedures with us and and what our responsibility is in your role without us micromanaging you Okay
Okay and budget timeline for year 2025 26 Christina you have looked at some other opportunities out there that how people are doing that and yeah so you talked with other municipalities and um
I think Steve has um a timeline that that uses it could be a good guide for us going forward actually very good we have already started discussion with staff ask regarding the upcoming budget and things
that they may need and their wish list and whatnot So we started that conversation and staff will be reporting back with those items in a couple weeks Oh you and Mayor I wasn't sure what BSMA is
I can tell you what Steve can speak on that as an accounting soft [Music] Oh god it's just a memo and just a packet Okay thank you And Steve would just like some time
chiseled out a workshop so that um this company can do a presentation staff So can we combine that workshop with the um do we need a workshop on the budget and timeline for year 202526
[Music] i don't think so I don't think so No I don't think a workshop So if he has an A we can possibly put that with the audit workshop Yeah Is that okay
well that Okay And then we've got golf cart We move that kick that can down the road and we need to we need to actually have that And then you have John Rodriguez
Yes Mr Rodriguez was requested to be able to present his project to the commission You may remember it was the Oasis resort just on the south end of town I mean excuse me north He's not in city limits
but he just wants to present Does he have a timeline when he's going to get started or anything like that he's trying to get support He's waiting for a letter of support from the from us early and then he'll present to his investors Okay
And we've had um just to brief you a little bit Michael Rohard and I have had several meetings with Mr Rodriguez and his family who requested to come in here and speak when we were in in one of the meetings Then we we also live in Mark Lint
Linton Linton Linton excuse me And um and so the Pton County gave him a letter of support the chamber and he's just looking forward to it'll give him an opportunity to have a discussion with you and present this
project So does everybody have their calendar out um didn't we just we discussed about animals today yes I've got animals on here too Okay And can any of these be um schedule at the same time but
although I do think um the fire chief's memo asks that our workshop be held at the fire department So I think the golf cart manual control can possibly be grouped together City Natural Gas Do you think how long
do you think that So that's going to be based on her schedule when she can come in there So if you would let's do this everybody you'll give the clerk some dates um or we can give the clerk some dates at work and then work it out with everybody um
with everyone's schedule that needs to be here to make sure because like the chief we can't schedule it without the chief schedule I have the week of May 26 through May 30th available I think we ought to
just graduation that's graduation Memorial Day weekend Um so we're looking for four different workshop slots correct four total
right now Yes Gas department one fire department one um BSN software and um animal right and then animal Okay Together Okay Um I think that is a great
suggestion to give our available dates to the clerk so that she can match it up Um okay What is April 28 for anybody
just give the dates to the to the clerk if everybody would Um can we do that yes because I think that's gonna take over Tuesdays Fridays and Wednesdays Yeah Thursdays are usually bad Um so
Thursdays usually don't work out and Mondays and Tuesdays Mondays and Tuesdays Okay because you asked Oh wait You said April 28th and that is a Monday Monday but I think I don't think I'm available Tuesday the 29th
Okay Give our dates Give our dates to um to um the clerk and she she can if she would send those out Um look at some dates that I'll line up Give all your
available dates to her please Okay With that we're going to go to the city manager report Um do we have any questions of the city manager report um I just have one question about the
historic surve Um one you mentioned that you made the first payment for the historic survey Um that's in there somewhere the first installment But so my question
is um can we get an update on where they are and yes when they're planning to be done and by update I mean can you ask them to send us an update or whatever not right now but whatever is most convenient for everyone Certainly I
already have that on my list so I will be sure to get that And then not in your reporting but you and I emailed the office the um the June 1st deadline for the historical resources grant for next year and I sent you the
information So um is that your thought that we would apply for some of these grants because we have the new and lodge hanging out there yes I'll be looking at that next week Next week Okay Just and then the
commission would have to approve it at the May meeting Yes Okay I think that's As you were aware we did get our Doge letter back and we got a letter back from them confirming that they received it Great And didn't I see that that they
they sent us receipt yeah So I called the state to confirm the receipt of it and then she sent me email Right And that was a great letter Thanks Mr Bill Ghart wrote it out So I can't
take credit for all of it And that that was not the original agenda packet but it's in the revised agenda packet So if people want to see it they can go online I do want to bring up um one thing on the vote dock and
pier Uh this comes up a lot There's a lot of criticism because we have not repaired that as of date Um this is while FEMA has advised it's my understanding Christina FEMA has advised that we're eligible to move
forward with the repairs However that does not guarantee the reimbursement and we have a fiduciary responsibility that if we incur those repairs and we don't get re reimbured then and we could have gotten reimbured
Yes we're um Mr Harris and I have been u yesterday and today on calls with our FEMA representative and um we're working with the mitigation team now to um we're it's
all underway So we're hoping that dots can get fixed soon We're we're diligently working on our goals to to get it done Yes the FEMA representative has told us that we could move forward with the repairs It wouldn't hinder our claim at all of them Um however we would
have to leave the money out and for some reason we didn't get the money back from FEMA then of course So um it's looking good and it's all worse I mean it doesn't hinder us getting reversed It does It
does pay what you told us If we did if we did our if we did the work it wouldn't it doesn't affect the claim The claim is still going to process as it would had we not done the work So it's just not guaranteed as basically But if it's not
guaranteed still work So we don't know for sure what funding is coming in from FEMA It's looking good Um we have the docks pending as well as the bathrooms at Fletcher Park and um we have move moved forward with fixing the roof on
the restroom and again we're working closely with our team up and now we can have a mitigation team So it's not posted It's not that we're not trying but we don't want to do that We went through this the last time it was
damaged and it took it took forever But we we also want to make sure that we don't do anything to Well and on that topic there's at least three times now in my memory that we've had to replace or fix that pier at lunch park Have you
not considered raising it that's why because I had that discussion with Jerry Rubble and he says go down to his docket where his is and it's still there for 100 years ago when they used to our family raised after the several years ago when we had to repair and he
raised his up and everybody else in his last they lost and he didn't his was not his was not effective I think Keith has has Keith Keith has recommended that We've had a local dump builder give us a vote for that we're we're um preparing
for that and and mindful of that too And also a topic of discussion with Mr repairs is um I think we need proper maintenance on our dogs going forward and um that's something we'll be working on keeping them sealed um screws tightened up and and just going forward
being a little more mindful at Sunrise Park kind of the other thing that we haven't done is we don't seal our docks I don't know why we don't seal our docks because you should you build that dock you should keep sealer on it to keep protected
Um there's a special dot sealer that you can put on those Um so that's something and I will say that Christina has been very handson out there in the community with what hasn't been taken care of and getting that taken care of Yeah And it
shows you can see it You can you can see it So um so anyway I just wanted to make sure we had we had a report on that We have anything else um only other thing I'd like to mention that
um I was able to secure our Tree City USA designation came to my attention in an email a couple couple months ago that we didn't apply for it I sent a late application acquired all the relevant data and we've
been approved So that designation will hold true That was for 2024 So we're still um we're still good with that but um still just continuing to work very closely with all staff um from
utility billing to our finance probably driving everybody crazy but um we're all uh working good good together morale seems to be freaking incredible and pretty good and um and we'll continue on that momentum and understand the revised
agenda there was some stuff from Joselyn is that just about is that I asked Jocelyn for um an update I noticed that we haven't had anything from utility billing in in the packets for quite some time and um she was able
to generate what she provided to And I just thought it would be um good to have in your packet And um on that note I I also asked finance to give us some financial state uh statement so I could put something before you since it's been
quite some time since you actually had a document But um those financial reports are all very um it's not a clear picture There are some things that are miscatategorized that um you know there's some a lot of tightening up to do in that We had um an employee
outgoing in accounts payable and we have a new employee who is really doing wonderful and experienced in that department So there are things on on those items that are miscatategorized but you'll
have better reports going forward Um our new employees our new employees uh name is Nancy Nancy and NY's acting as our accounts payable/admin assistant So um she's going to be supporting the clerk in half the time and working on
accounts payable half the time but right now she's just getting thoroughly trained in accounts payable She's just started dabbling into um she has experience with minutes and being a clerk So she's spending some time with me now We have boxes and boxes and boxes
of old records that need to be dealt with that we're storing um from years and we should have we have records back somebody to dispose it's actually given to us by there's
somewhere in the state the department of state has a schedule it is but you have to following so that hasn't been done what 50 years We're working on some house cleaning Some file archiving We're working
closely with Miss Sheila She knows there's a need for it too So we're trying to get the office a little more organized and we're pulling the rings in a little bit with our files and archiving accordingly So internally we have a lot lot going on and we did a
request that when we do because all of that has to be shredded and so we have to have a shredding company come in and when that shredding company comes in we've asked that they open it up to the public There'll have to be of course a fee for it but for convenience that she gives us ample notice so we can
advertise that so that the public can also um come in and dispose of anything that they need shredded as well Thank you I got bags There's somebody at my house too that
doesn't go through those records Um and then you want to Dave's got some good news Um the gas company's grant has been approved So they'll be able to start all of that work Um 1.5 million he's been waiting for So he's
pretty happy about that Okay And so then we're going to go to our city attorney We have any other questions city attorney do you have anything i do not Tired Okay then let's move on to city commissioner Um first off
congratulations and thank you for doing your certification I guess um for the uh cyber cyber training And um you want to give us an update on the Jason Taylor and members Oh my my
Yes It is currently I I had to go It's currently in front of the first DCA Um but we have no idea when it'll be if they will even have oral arguments or if they'll
make a decision He said that he has several other cases that are [Music] perfor discretion Okay Commissioner Vita you have the council orientation program
I think I brought this up previously and if we want we can consider it So um the ICMA and actually um our interim city manager may be very interested in this They have all kinds of online training uh primarily for staff um all kinds of
modules on different topics This one um is for councils or commissions Um it's five topics three hours each Um and it looks to me like a great course I think
it's um very tightly designed and it's introduction to council manager form of government um helpful advice for those who are new roles and responsibilities in council manager form of government understanding the budget and strategic
plan um which we've talked about for PR for council members and um we don't really need this one because we have our Florida specific one ethics for council members um probably some good general advice So the whole thing is 15 hours total You
can go at your own pace Um I just thought it looked like a very very good course and uh Commissioner Lori and I have taken the um Florida lead of the city's training both first and second That was a one to two day commitment in
person involved hotel costs This is just your time and um the fee So if we do this and I I assume they consider us to be ICMA members $95 Pardon
$895 that um for everybody right that all of us could do it for if you get a license for the whole council then the total cost is $900 So that would be divide um a little less than $200 from
each of our budgets And alternatively um unfortunately I printed the one that has the um the group license I think a single license I thought it was three three Yeah right The single license is less I think it's
more like $300 and you can go on the website So um we could either vote to pay for this and have the option for all of us to take it at our own pace Um or people can sign up by
themselves budget and you can um you can go online and make yourself an account and you can preview it You can preview the started I said I I did he just signed up for really I mean it is interactive it's
interesting it's not like just click click you know I mean the train is much better but it does have a lot of important you know just theory stuff that helps you kind of understand you know our roles and what
how especially the budgeting part of interesting sort of anyway Um and I I am particularly interested in budget and strategic plan because when I took the League of Cities courses the instructor they had for my
course on budgeting um I just didn't feel that what he presented was very pertinent to me as a commission member and that this looks much more nuts and bolts and useful and that's one of our main jobs So I highly recommend it to us
if we want to Maybe as we go into the budget season for next year but that's something that possibly we could put in there I right now I think um how much of your how much of your budget do you have left that you're willing to spend um
based on you got conferences coming up right we have the um we have the League of Cities conference coming up Truthfully I wish everyone would take this before we finish the budget for the next year I I
think it would be very very helpful Um and I'm certainly willing to put in $200 or $300 of my um budget money but you know I think it's good if you want to go and look at the um the demo Okay let
everybody look at the demo and then we'll bring it back and we'll bring it back for um discussion at the 980 and if you don't know how to do the demo that was interesting when you tried several times and then I had
to get and actually email them and get a hot ticket to fix it because it was not it was sending me an email saying oh we've we've gotten your information and then I didn't hear anything back and it took three times and then I say "Hey right." And there there is a personal a
person who will contact you and who can help you And I think they may I think they may have fixed a glitch because you and I have the same problem and I thought it was just me Okay So there's training available Looks like um they couldn't do something Okay Do we have
anything else otherwise I'll entertain a motion to adjourn Okay we have a second Okay all in favor please say I I I moved Thank you everyone for being here tonight Commissioner please make
sure you sign that for the bank and make sure that Commissioner Moore signs that as well