Good morning everyone. At this time, I'll call the Crowing County Regular Board meeting for October 28th, 2025 to order. If you'll stand for the pledge of allegiance and a moment of silence. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. First up, we have open forum. Uh, Mr. Sheffller. Good morning. Morning, Steve. How you doing?
>> Good. Morning, board. Well, here we go again. So, got another lawsuit for the county. We'll see how well it goes this time. Hasn't been going so hot for you guys uh lately. But, uh, this one's going to be calling out a lot of stuff. And I have to exempt Mr. Lee because he
wasn't, uh, here during all this stuff. You guys are all aware. Miss Fransen decided to commit a crime by putting a unlawful tax on my my property. Um, yeah, bad move. I wouldn't have listened to the Heightensmans and their stupid
ideas, but um, I guess that's what happens when you're in politics. You like to befriend people that a lot of times are popular, but they're not very scrupulous. Bad move. But this time, once again,
it's going to cost the taxpayers money. It's pretty much a shame. And you know, I actually was thinking about it yesterday. I thought I really disliked you people. It was more that I pity you. It's like it's so petty on how you guys
act. And this go around I know it's going to be the excuse with these emails that have Franen committing the crime and the emails that I did get my hands on. It's so abundantly clear. Got the ones from Tim Hoo where the board got
it. The board the entire board got it and he's all out saying that he's going to provoke me into this lawsuit and you guys were okay with that. How is that okay? just a lawsuit in itself that was totally unnecessary. You guys had
nothing to do with that cartway and you provoked me into this. This is going to cost the taxpayers money for nothing. Why? Because Tim Hoo says, "Oh, we're going to see what we can get away with." Well, you're not going to get away with it. And it's weird that you
guys would hide those emails of Franen concocting this nonsense along with team Hezman that you guys would hide them. you'd go to court, have to pay money to me because you're hiding them then, and all I say is, "I'm gonna request them again
timely." And I knew what was going to happen. I'm like, "Oh, wow. The the state retention schedule is coming up real quick here." And what's going to end up happening is you guys are going to stall through that. And then claim, "Oh, whoops, Mr. Sheffller. Sorry about those emails. They're destroyed now. But
at least we got that squared away. Here's another check." And that's exactly what's going on. It's pathetic. Why not just take responsibility instead of dumping it off on the taxpayers? This is ridiculous. Like I said, it went from
dislike to just pity >> cuz I'm not going to be losing out in the end on this one. Justice will be served as it was the other two times. >> Man, you guys need to get your crap together. And uh the Brainer Dispatch, this hack hack newspaper really needs to
start telling the people the truth of what's going on. They've been covering up too much of this stuff to this point. >> All right. >> So, if you guys are not involved in it and you guys didn't notice the email, I suggest just stepping up to the plate and doing the right thing for once. Doesn't matter if you don't like me, you
know? It's that I can understand that a lot of people don't like me. Doesn't mean you got to disrespect yourself. >> Thank you. With that, we'll move on to number three, which is to review and approve the minutes from October 14th, 2025.
>> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Commissioner Lubkkey, second by Commissioner Franzine. Any questions? All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion
passes. Number four today is review and approve the agenda. >> Make a motion to approve. Motion by Commissioner Lee to approve. >> Sorry, I was having trouble with my uh >> oh >> microphone. We have one item to add under additional business. Commissioner
Franine has received resignation from her appointee on the H and she has someone she would like to appoint for that replacement. add committee appointments for HRE D district 4 under additional business. >> Okay. >> I will make a motion amend my motion to
accept with the change. >> All right. We have a motion with an amended agenda by Commissioner Lee, seconded by Commissioner Franine. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Not in favor. Same signed. That
motion passes. Move on to number five, which is our consent agenda. >> Mr. Chair, I have a couple items I would like to move off of that and discuss uh before we approve the rest of the consent agenda. That'd be 5.8 5.9.
>> All right, we'll pull 5.8 and 5.9. We'll address those immediately after the consent agenda. Any other concerns with the consent agenda? If not, I would look for a motion to approve. Motion by Commissioner Franzine. Seconded.
>> Second by Commissioner Lubkkey. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. We'll deal first of all with number 5.8, the HL property purchase.
>> Yes. Um I don't know if it would be Gary or Tom that could answer this uh question I have on this in regards to this uh HL property. I you know we've only had the solid waste committee I think as far as the whole group of us
for what just about a year now. Um but I don't remember in the previous meeting I wasn't able to make it to this last meeting where this has ever come up in the previous meetings about this HL property. The question I have on it in looking it up it looks like the property
shows a value of about $71,000 in 2026 as a taxable value. We chose back in 2020 it was worth a little over 20ome,000 for the 7.7 acres of property. According to what we have in front of us here, it says we're purchasing it for $150,000.
And and my question is just to clarify why we're paying that much more for that property than what it's even listed according to services. >> Yes. Good morning, Mr. Chair and board. So, this was discussed um at our October meeting and then the previous meeting as
well. was brought up to um have land services staff approach the property owner to see if they'd be willing to sell and the $150,000 is their asking price for the property. Okay. And of that uh money uh it looks like a 100,000 of it I think was going to be orund
20 from landfill funds. What funds are those that landfill has >> and how much money is in those funds? >> I'll I'll defer to Jessica Shay. she's more knowledgeable in these areas. >> Good morning. I can't speak to the exact balance of those funds. Um, but it would
be their landfill enterprise funds. So, the funds that we receive for the tipping fees for the garbage that's going into the landfill since this would be a buffer for that landfill boundary. >> But then we're also taking um it looks like it says amendment reflect revision landfill fund amount of Are we taking
some money out of other than just the landfill fund? Are we doing the whole thing out of that landfill enterprise fund? It will all be out of the landfill enterprise fund. What we are doing is we had a project set aside for about 120,000 for that landfill boiler that we were going to replace and we are not doing that. So we're just switching
those funds to this purchase instead of that. We're moving that project out to 20 2028 I believe >> and >> still all landfill funds. >> It's all landfill funds. So there's not I mean it's still tax dollars. It's just not levy dollars. >> It's no correct. It's the landfill
tipping fees. So, it's a fees people pay when they use the landfill >> in in indirectly. It's still taxpayer funds. >> Correct. Residents. Yep. >> Um, what are we going to do with that land? >> Mr. Chair, can I address that? >> Sure.
>> So, you know, I've been here 13 years and and it always was Doug, Commissioner Hog, and myself on the on the solid waste committee. We had a chance to buy that HomeVig property. That's where he's
crushing gravel across the road. And me being too tight, I I thought the price was too much. And so Homevig bought it. And the way I look at it is we have got a huge asset. We just put
$3.5 million into a uh recycling facility. We got a lot of taxpayer money spent out there. we need to have a buffer around there so somebody doesn't start building houses and all of a sudden they're saying it smells or my
water's contaminated or whatever have you. And so my thought on this is we're able to buy this HL property that gives us a buffer. It's no different than Camp Ripley trying to get a buffer around there so that they don't shut down Camp
Ripley. I'm trying to get a buffer or I think we should get a buffer around there. And it's the same thing with that land exchange so that we have that buffer around there. And that's the that's the whole reason for this is to have apologize I wasn't able to be at
the meeting cuz I would have brought it up at that time. >> That's the whole reason >> since it's since it's here right now and it came as a consent item which which I don't know who was all at the meeting at the uh >> Jamie and I were there. >> Okay. Um, but the the challenge I look at is here is we we've decided that this
property now is worth instead of worth, you know, $10,000 an acre at what we're looking at. We're looking at 20 or $30,000 an acre. Does that mean other buffer properties around that that dump would also be or landfill, excuse me, would also be valued at that because we've kind of set that price. And then
the other the other question I had is this an armslength transaction or does this be taken out when you go to figure out, you know, uh when you look at taxing other piece of property says we just sold a piece of raw land or there's really not much on it for 20ome,000 an
acre. So that means all raw land can be valued at 20,000. And I'll ask that question of Gary. >> Good morning. Um Mr. Chair, commissioners, this will not be an armslength transaction. This is not a good indicator of market value because the >> so it does
>> the buyer wants the property basically it's we get these all the time where they they buy it for more than what it's probably worth to anybody else. >> Okay. >> But it does it is worth more to the county than probably anybody else because of the situation. >> Yeah. >> And I just question the amount. That was
that's all I had there. So >> if I could, it's just real important to note it's not taxpayer dollars. It's user fee. It's a tipping fee out there. So, there's all the tax statements we send out, you have a $25 special um or a solid waste special assessment on there
that goes for all of our recycling efforts, keeping things out of the landfill. That landfill is fully funded by tipping fee only. So, there is no taxpayer dollars, >> but but the tipping fees are paid by the taxpayers. >> Absolutely. But it is a userbased
system, not a tax, which I think is a is a very fair way of doing it. So, >> y >> um so that thank you for answering that question and now I'll go on to 59 when we're looking at exchanging and I didn't get through the homework on it yet but uh and that's what I'm going to ask you
the valuation of what we're exchanging uh for this homeig property. I think you you said some of it's tax forefeite and some of it was a memorial forest and is that is that property that's going to be somewhere down the road maybe when the
homeigs have it they could come in and ask for a gravel permit. Is there gravel on that property and they would look at turning that into a gravel pit? >> That is the number one reason why uh Mr. Holvig wants a property is it does have a significant deposit of of gravel.
>> Okay. And the the property that we are getting for buffer is an old gravel pit which probably never would be developed into homes. Would probably never be developed into anything else. >> Not necessarily. Not necessarily. >> Well, I know, but it's a gravel pit and
I've driven by and looked at it. >> Part of it currently is a gravel pit. >> Yes. Right. So, >> that's the only question I had. It just seems like a lot of money to be spending. Do we have what those dollars are? What the HomeVig property is that we're looking at getting and what the valuation of the property is that we're
looking at giving up? >> We do. Uh it's roughly about 4 and a.5% difference. >> Okay. And what what is the number though? 4 and a half%. >> Uh I don't know that we have that in here. I don't know. I have it with me, but I know they were pretty close in in property valuation.
>> Okay. Yeah. You could stop over and get it. >> Yeah, absolutely. I I will after after I'm done and I apologize that I didn't go over and get it sooner. So, >> and Mr. Chair, if you don't if Commissioner Lubkkey doesn't think this is a good idea, don't bother me. I guess I guess I guess
I'm just trying to look forward to protecting our asset out there and you know, when somebody buys that or you know that that $150,000 property, that doesn't mean somebody couldn't buy that and build a house there. and then all of a sudden
they're complaining about the smell from the landfill. I that's that's all I I just think we I'm just trying to protect our asset is what I'm trying >> I was just asking the question Paul. I mean it wasn't wasn't to uh um it was because I wasn't at the meeting and I wanted to make sure as you know I like
to do a little research on most of the stuff I bring up. So >> Okay. So are you >> I'm done with my questions. >> So I think we'll handle both of these at with one motion. >> Mr. Chair, I would move with the adoption of 5.8. 8 and 5.9. >> Motion by Commissioner
>> Coring. Your last name Coring. >> Coring here. Right here. License plate. >> No, don't. No, don't don't bring that. No. Do I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Second by Commissioner Lee. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. >> I.
>> That motion passes. We'll move on to number six, community services. Terara Terry and Tammy Luick, welcome to the pit. >> Jeez. Oh, >> come on. >> Thanks. Thanks for the new name for the
seats. >> Not intimidating at all. Appreciate that. Keratary Community Services. >> Tammy Luick Community Services. >> So, we are here today to share information about our Brainer Lakes Area Drug Education Work or Blade. As you
know, in 2019, Blade was formed because we had a substance use um problem and were not able to arrest our way out of it. So, folks came together from the community, including providers, those with lived experience, um folks from the government, law
enforcement, to figure out a way to address some of the issues that we were facing. As with any policy, program practice within Crowing County, we consistently look for ways to do things better, to do things smarter, and Blade
is no exception. So, we are here today to um present some information on a potential new structure to you and um if you approve to appoint two commissioners to serve on our work group. So, as we
were talking through how could we do the work better in relation to Blade, we came up with um a new statement, but our mission remains the same. So, we want to prevent drug abuse, protect our people, and preserve our community. That's the
mission of Blade. All right. And so, this new statement doesn't replace our mission, but helps to guide our work. Together we create spaces where individuals can find hope, healing, and community. That's really the goal of our blade group.
So, this is the new organizational structure that we're proposing and we will dive into it a bit more uh as we go through. Basically, you guys are the boss. Um the county board is in charge of all things blade, including the opioid funding. We then propose to have
a blade steering committee which would um include a number of folks from the county that do this work as well as uh law enforcement representation, members of the jail, county board, and some u medical professionals in the
community. This is a graphical depiction of the last slide. Oh, wait. We're hopping around here. There you go. Thank you. So, our steering committee will be the group that I just talked about, um, composed
of a number of county staff, law enforcement, the jail, county commissioners, um, etc. Under the steering committee, we would have four separate task groups. So, the task groups are the groups that would be doing the work associated with each of these topic areas.
We'll then have the Blade Coalition as kind of that uh underpinning or the the group that comes together um not monthly. We're we're determining an appropriate meeting um schedule, but that will come together so we can talk
through the task groups, what's going on, um how things are going out in the community, what they're hearing. So, this is the overarching structure we're proposing today. Next slide, please. So, here's a little bit of a timeline. Um, 2019, as I mentioned, we developed
the Blade Coalition. In 22, you uh proclaimed September as recovery month, and that stays true today. Um, 2023, we learned that we would receive 2.5 million over the next 18 years in opioid funds. And in 2023, we were awarded the
drug-free communities grant, which helps us to focus our efforts in the schools um with kids and substance misuse. The steering committee, the top group right under you guys that I proposed, um is the core decision-making body that
oversees the entire initiative. Um it includes the mix of community leaders, as I mentioned, and county board members. These are the proposed members. You'll see Commissioner Barrow's name on here as well as Commissioner Coring. Those um these two individuals are on here because they were appointed earlier
on to be a part of the Blade Coalition. And so this isn't set in stone. You could change your mind today or you could continue to appoint Commissioner Barrows or Commissioner Corin and Commissioner Coring. The role of the steering committee is to guide strategy, allocate resources, and ensure alignment
among all the four task groups that I had showed you before. Staff that will be heading up this group or setting the agendas with input from the steering committee, taking the minutes, sending out the invites, that'll be Talia Broadhead, who's our blade coordinator. She is employed through Minnesota
Prevention and Recovery Alliance and is our blade coordinator, as well as does our DFC grant work. Here are the task groups and um we've structured the task groups similar to
Crowing Energized. We found that their structure has really worked for them to not only engage community but to ensure with uh staff um support that these task groups continue forward. So you'll see the opioid fund, Gina Hire, who is the
uh public health um manager and I would be the co-chairs of the opioid fund. Treat treatment and recovery would be Tammy and Richard Gruntner who is our social worker. Community education's Kelly Johnson and Talia Broadhead. I apologize that word was cut off. Uh and
then the DFC youth prevention grant will be Talia and Josh Nelson. Josh is also an employee of Minnesota Prevention and Recovery Alliance and so he will work with Talia on those grant requirements. The focus areas you can see there to the right um advisory committee for opioid
funds makes uh recommendations for prioritizing the settlement funds. The treatment and recovery group will implement strategies. The community education group will raise awareness and educate the public. and the advis the advisory committee for the DFC grant is
responsible for implementing the um requirements of that grant. So the opioid fund task groups we've developed charters for each of the groups that we will propose to each of the task groups if this structure is approved. This is the mission of the
task group for opioid funds as well as guiding principles. Importantly we want to collaborate with our multiple stakeholders. So gain input knowing that the final decision in terms of opioid allocation is you guys. You're
the final decision makers. Next slide, please. Here are our responsibilities for the opioid fund task groups. Uh I won't read them all to you, but suffice to say we will um gather input from the task group
itself and finalize our charter which includes the responsibilities once the task groups are formed. Treatment rec and recovery task group. This is a picture from our most recent recovery walk which was a huge success.
So this task group also has a mission and guiding principles. you'll see a lot of overlap between the um task groups and that's because we're all working to the same goal of reducing substance misuse um within the community technology. Well, I need a job
task group responsibilities are included here. Again, there are a lot of um overlapping responsibilities with this group as well. the training and education task group. This is from uh our prevention recovery
and prevention conference that our our folks attended. This picture uh this group is a little wordy. So their their mission is a little more broad than uh others. You can tell that I might have written the first one, Tammy wrote the second one and then we did not write
this third one. Um but important purpose and guiding principles include visibility and presence related to training and education to really celebrate recovery which would be our recovery walk and other events and then task there it went okay >> okay unity through collaboration stigma
reduction and resource connection so to make sure that we're coordinating our resources toward common goals and not duplicating the I know. I'm sorry. >> Task group responsibilities for this group. Um, planning and coordination are a big one. Um, as well as public
awareness campaigns and documentation and reporting will also be important um to ensure that the strategies we're putting out into the community um make good sense and are having an impact. And then the DFC youth prevention task group. There are some stipulations we have to follow because of the grant
itself which includes having representatives from the different sectors that are listed here in the graphic. So we will continue obviously with those 12 sectors being represented and we do have a charter for this group now as well that can be shared once the
task group is developed. So, the Blade Coalition, which is the the group of folks that come together right now every month, and it um is consistent um consists of many different sectors across the county. Super important group to get together to talk
about what's currently working, where they see the needs are, what work they're doing. uh because we did allocate a second round of grant funding, we um have requirements for the recipients of the grant funds to come to the Blade Coalition meetings to report out what
work they're doing and to see how they're coordinating across organizations. So that work will continue as well as the meetings themselves. The coalition though will be more of an advisory group to share information with the task groups. I
foresee that members of the coalition currently could serve on different task groups to have a voice, but the overarching approver of anything blade will come through the county board.
>> Oh, that's it in a nutshell. >> So, we stand for any questions that you might have and look for your approval and appointment. I appreciate the emphasis that you made about the final responsibility is the county board's responsibility. That I think was kind of
a a gray area for some of these groups that engage in the efforts in the opiate world, but I appreciate that this board does take that responsibility seriously and we want the public to know that and those groups to know that we will make
the final decisions on any of this funding that goes out. The dollars come to Crowing County for a reason and we're responsible for the dispensation of those dollars. So, we will carry that out. Um, I do have one other thing.
>> Go ahead. >> I was at the recovery walk that was mentioned in one of the slides and the sheriff's department did a great job of a couple officers being there to get dunked. I volunteered next year to be one of the participants and I would invite the
other four members. What >> I've done I've done that before and I that's that was not pleasant. So, >> well, I know they get harder balls for certain people that are sitting there and they take the fence down. >> But I it is a a great opportunity to
support that group of people and it was a great event this year. So just miss >> just just one quick question. Um couple of times in in your presentation you mentioned the schools and then there was the last grant received was for schools. Can you talk a little bit about what's
happening there with schools and are they all schools just one? >> So the drug-free communities grant uh we receive we're in year four I think three >> three um of receiving the dollars for that grant. Talia Broadhead, who works with Minnesota Prevention and Recovery
Alliance, as well as Josh, another employee of Minra, go into the schools and host educational sessions for students. Um, I know we've been immersed in the Brainer School District. We are looking at um,
>> we've been in Pquat and Crosby. um expanding to there's still efforts being made when it comes to some of the peer advisory groups that they'd like to have or peer groups that they'd like to form in the schools as well. So, there's some components that I don't think we have fully launched in any of the schools
that we'd like to continue to move forward on, but the presentations are being done in all three schools in our in the um county, the three primary school districts. I shouldn't say all schools because um uh that maybe will be coming later. We'll see upon invitation. The program that they do is called Know
the Truth and it's u an evidence-based program that was um looked at by the University of Minnesota and um so they share a little bit about rec um about their stories, but then they're there to talk with um the youth teachers as well
around um questions they may have um connections to treatment programs and support if they need it. So, >> and it's not just for the youth who might be struggling with substance use, but if a youth's parents are struggling with substance use um as well, they provide support um for those individuals
as well. If you'd like a presentation about the work that the DFC grant is doing in the schools, we're happy to to set that up uh so you can learn more about the specifics if you'd like. >> Okay. >> Um I I did also Oops. Are you done? I
did also attend that uh recovery walk and and it was unbelievable how many people were there. I mean it was I think we had what was there 500 >> 500 and I would I would be willing to do the dunk tank but I would have to wear a life jacket. So >> a life jacket >> a life jacket
>> cuz somebody might want to come over and hold me down. So but uh thank you for what you guys do. I'd really appreciate that. >> Commissioner Coring. >> Uh thank you Mr. Chairman. So, I uh have been serving on here with the chairman,
but I and I I'm more than happy to continue to serve, but I know that Commissioner Lubkkey likes a lot of information to make a decision, which is a good thing. I probably don't require as much information, but if Commissioner Lubkkey would be want to be on there, I'm I'm
okay with that, too. Whatever whatever you guys think. But I'm more than happy to continue to serve on there. But if Commissioner Lupkkey wants to be on there, that's fine with me. >> Commissioner Lukey. >> And I and I have thought about that and I was thinking with my experience in that area because of of extended family
members and stuff that it would be be really good. But I also think that because it does involve law enforcement and there is a law enforcement component about it if if if Jaime would be willing to serve because of his experience. I think that would also be interesting. So, I'm okay serving if that's the
choice of the board or or have Jamie serve if if he would like to do that, too. I wouldn't want to leave that not open for him. >> I appreciate the offer, but I've got a fair amount of committees and there's at least three on law enforcement are on that list already, so I would >> Okay,
>> I would pass. Thank you. >> And I'll just note you're all welcome to the Blade Coalition group. Um, we do post those for um the public and so you're all able to come to that group. We can also bring you updates um regularly on the work that we're doing
um with the the coalition itself. Um this is specifically for the steering committee. >> Commissioner Coring, you're willing to hand it off to Commissioner? >> Yes, I think that's probably a good idea and I think the chairman has the authority to appoint himself and
Commissioner Lubkkey to that. So >> I haven't heard from Rosemary at all. You interested at all? >> Okay. As a chair, I will make the appointment of Commissioner Lubkkey and myself to be on the blade steering committee >> and then the overarching structure as a
go in terms of the test groups and >> yes, I think it makes a motion. >> Well, why don't we make a motion? We'll just make it official. So, I look for a motion to approve the new structure of the blade >> motion work group work group. Motion to
approve the blade structure that was presented to us. Mo >> motion by Commissioner Coring, seconded by Commissioner Franzine. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. Thank you very much. >> And just one more thing, Mr. Chair. So,
just just for all five of us, you know, when they do have the coalition, you know, like I listened into the coalition, you can always pop in on Teams and you can listen and hear what's going on. we were talking about, I believe it's a $3,500 grant and they're
trying to decide how to do some advertising um I guess at the movie theaters, but um anyway, >> and that's through the drug-free communities grant. So that's $3,500 that was allocated as part of the grant budget, the grant plan um to provide um
messaging um at movie theaters and social media and those types of things. So to Commissioner Coring's point, he had some really good um thoughts that he raised during that meeting. And would encourage you guys to be part of those discussions as well. And I'm not just saying that, Commissioner. You did have
good thoughts. >> Wow. >> Come on. >> If his head wasn't big enough to begin with. >> Sorry. >> Now expanded. So thank you very much, Commissioner Corning. Thank you for the presentation. >> We'll move on to land services.
Chris, good morning. >> Good morning, Mr. Chair, members of the board. Uh we have uh five items for your consideration this morning. The first request is for the plenary plat of second edition to Eagle View Estates for parcel numbers 59180604
5918 0606 and I think I had the wrong parcel number there have a repetitive 59180609 located in section 18 of Deer Township. The request is to approve a conventional
design plenary plat consisting of 11 residential lots. Uh the property is located south of Eagle View Drive. Uh if we go back to page 270. So just to give you an idea, this is Dearwood Township here. This we have
Eagle View Drive. This would be Beach Road up here. And uh then this is Kai Road 12 to the south. And what you've got is they're looking to plat this property. And so we can go to the next to the survey itself up on let's go to page 269 please. There
we go. So again um this would be the the the you come in through here. There's going to be a couple different roads is coming in. The um the everything meets the requirements of the ordinance as far as lot size uh road dedication and uh
and those uh sorts of uh uh ordinance-based uh board and space requirements. The planning commission did hold a public hearing on September 18th and made a unanimous recommendation to the board to approve the plenary plat of second edition to Eagle View Estates. Uh the planning commission and the board of adjustment did develop a finding of
fact as found on page 281 to 28 uh2 of your packet for consideration. Dearwood Township submitted a comment stating that they were not taking a position on the plat application itself. But I have spoken with Dearwood Township and they are working with the applicant on road requirements for future township
maintenance of those roads um that are there. Based on the application submitted, the staff packet public comments the finding effect is recommended to approve the plenary plat of second edition to eco view estates. Uh I have also reviewed the file and concur recommendation from the planning commission board of adjustment. I'd be
happy to answer any questions. >> Questions? >> Mr. Chair, >> commissioner. >> I would so move the second edition of the Eagle View Estates preliminary plot. >> Mr. Coring makes a motion to approve. >> I'll second it. >> Second by Commissioner Lee. All in favor
signify by saying I. I >> I not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. Thank you, Chris. >> Thank you very much. The next request is for the plenary plat of Walker's Highlands for parcel number 50180511. This is located in section 18 of Bay
Lake Township. The request is to approve a conventional design preliminary plat consisting of four residential lots on Clearwater Lake. The property is located off of Crooked Lake Road and Guilford Road. So, you have Clear Water up here. This would be crooked. >> Chris, can you use the other pointer?
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Yep. >> There we go. >> There you go. >> That's making Wow. >> So, you have this Clear Water up here. This is the property in question. You've got um this would be the Crooked Lake Road here, Lady Slipper Lane, and and then this would be Guilford. And if we
go to the next to the slide before it 86. Yep. So they're basically creating four uh four residential lots. There'll be no road development on this. The roads will be either coming off of this road up here and Lady Slipper and then
Guilford here down to the south. The planning commission held a public hearing on October 16th and made a unan unanimous recommendation of the board to to approve the plenary plat of Walkers Highlands. The planning commission board of adjustment did develop a finding of fact found on page 296 to 27 your packet
for your consideration. We did receive a comment from Bay Lake Township supporting the request based on the application submitted staff packet public comments and the finding effect is recommended to approve the preliminary plat of Walker Highlands. Staff have reviewed the file and concur with the recommendation from the planning commission and the board of
adjustment. I'd be happy to answer any questions. >> Any questions? >> Mr. Chair, no questions. And I'm I'm not ready for a motion yet, but I I just Chris, could you just explain it just popped into my head? Can you just explain the difference between a
preliminary plat and what has done between the preliminary plat just a brief explanation of that? I think probably people are wondering, you know, geez, what's this preliminary plat? And then all of a sudden we're doing the final plat like two seconds later.
>> Yep. So, so preliminary plat hearing and we get notification to the neighboring properties that there's going to be a proposed subdivision of the property. Um the plenary plat is really intended to pretty much put together what you see up here on the screen which would be the layout of the
lots showing proper lot size, lot width, lot area, septic location, uh topography, location of wetlands and that and it really is intended to be the the main this how the lots are going to lay out as part of the process. You get that plenary plat is done first. The
second step then after plenary plat is you come back and you go through the final plat process. The reason why situations like this you can do a preliminary and final together is that there isn't any road development. The real the real key for final plat is making sure that all the conditions of the plat of the plenary plat are put
into place so the final plat can be approved. And there's two um so one of the things that we look for that we require as part of final plat is that we get a final survey. It's reviewed by the county surveyor. We get um title commitment to make sure there's any issues with that and we make sure that
there's a plan to make sure the monumentation is installed so all the corners have their pins properly. Um in a situation where let's say if like so that's why if you go back to the original request for that first edition um it was that uh uh
second edition of the Eagle View Estates. They're not doing a final plat yet because now they have to sit down and start doing the road design and get the engineering done and work with the township to get that figured out. Once they get that information, they would come back to the county at that point and they would either have two options. They would either have to have the road
built already and have it inspected and verified that the road meets the requirements or they have a developers agreement which would be that they would submit all the information to us. We would have an engineer's estimate of what it'll cost to build the roads. they then provide us a a financial assurance of 125% of that amount so that um we
would be able to have that in place to make sure that the road gets put in properly. And if not, we'd have the ability to install the road um the way it was designed and approved. And then once once you have that in place, then it comes to the county board for approval of the final plat. And there's a there's a time frame requirement. So
once a preliminary plat is approved, they've got 12 months to come in and file for final. And then after final plat's approved, I'd have to go back in the ordinance, but I there's a a short window that they have to actually get the plat recorded after final plat. So there's a and it's and there's a there's
a a statute 505 that governs how we um do the platting process and this dictates that. And then we have article 9 in the land use ordinance that puts into play the process for preliminary plat and final plat. >> So Mr. chair. So, I would say that hearing that explanation, by the time it
gets to the county board, I think just about all the bugs are shaken out almost >> every absolutely. Um, by the time it gets to the board, everything's been vetted out. We have all the details as far as the requirements. Like I said, making sure we have two septic
locations, making sure we know where the wetlands are, making sure that we understand the topography, making sure that we understand, you know, where the roads are going to go and and and storm water and all those. And those are all requirements in the ordinance that have to be followed before um it gets to you guys.
>> So, just one more question, Mr. Chair, on this one. So, you were talking about the preliminary plat. So if somebody's going to put this specific one in, do the neighbors get notified on on something like this plat? >> Yes, absolutely. So we would notify how
far away around >> on on a plat we would notify everybody within a half mile. Conditional use permits are a/4 mile and land use map amendments are a half mile and then um variances are 500 ft or the nearest 10 properties whatever gets us the most. >> Thank you.
>> Any other questions, concerns? Yes. I have one other question. I see that uh Jacob Fry from the uh >> uh DNR weighed in on a bluff bluff delineation on one of these. Is it just on one of these lots as it's shown on that? >> So this area right here that's
considered to be a that's considered to meet the requirements of a bluff. >> Okay. >> Everything else that you see out here would be considered a steep slope. >> Steep slope. Okay. And that's is that bluff listed on the when that uh description for that lot is done, it is listed as a bluffed lot. >> That type of thing doesn't get put on
the final plat. So if somebody wanted to come and get that information, they'd have to come and look at the preliminary plat to see that. But when you record the final plat, there's very specific things that you put on the plat for final recording. Topography and slope is not one of the things I guess. >> So if somebody would come in and want to build on that, would at that time they
came in for a permit, would you let them know that it is above Uh we would we would uh >> or would they find out after they've built on it? >> Uh well, we require a survey anytime somebody were to build a house on a repairing lot. That was something the county board has put in place about 18 months ago.
>> And so we would have this this property would have to be surveyed based on where they want to locate the any structures or anything that they want to put out there. So we would make sure that if they were going to build over here that they'd have to be 30 ft away from the top of that bluff to be able to build any of the structures that they'd want
to do on the property. But before they came in for a permit, they could come in and start clearing that lot and clearing in that bluff area. And would they know about it? uh they would you know I think everybody everybody is I would I I think the the answer to that is that people have to
are responsible to do their due diligence when they buy property and to make sure that they know but they you know there's and when you start talking about steep slopes and bluffs our earns is very very clear that there's to be no um no um vegetation removal except for
allow for an 8ft path to get down to the lake for stairways and and lifts and landings and those sorts of activities. So, um, but yeah, the this information is is all going to be will be available online. People can be able to do their own property search and and and you
know, verify those sorts of information. So, >> thank you. That's all I had. >> Any other questions? If not, I would look for a motion to approve the preliminary plat for the Walker Highlands for the findings of fact. >> I'll make the motion. >> Commissioner Lee makes a motion to approve.
>> Second. >> Second by Commissioner Coring. All in favor signify by saying I. I >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. >> 7.3. >> The next request is for the plenary plat of Harlland's huge walleye hideout for
parcel number 7834 0602 located in section 34 of Noki Lake Township. The request is to approve a conventional design preliminary plat consisting of five lots on Grave Lake. The property is located off of Ky Road 8 and Grave Lake Road. And so again, uh
down this is where you've got Grave Lake down here. This is Kai Road 8. Uh this Grave Lake Road. If you go up and up north, you' be Ky Road 18. We're just south of the of the uh of the Green Lantern. Um if we go to that survey on 301. Yep. So what you've got are you you
have two repairing lots here. You've got one lot here and you got one lot back here. It says that there's the lot actually has five lots, but one lot is an outlot. So there would actually be four residential lots for for building on this outlot is intended for access. So what we're doing is instead of having
multiple access points off of the road. They're coming in this out lot and they're going to then um everybody will have access to this lot and then access there to that. And then this lot here will either come off of Grave Lake Road to the north or they can also work with Highway to see if they can entrance
point off of Ky Road 8. um each one of these lots that are here will have one-third ownership on that outlaw A so that they will all have that'll be part of their valuation and tax statement to make sure that that um outlaw is wouldn't uh and getting to a position where it would go tax forfeit if
somebody didn't pay you know the the taxes on that. Um the planning commission did hold a public hearing on October 16th and made a unanimous recommendation to the board to approve the plenary plan of Harland's huge walleye hideout. The planning commission to develop finds a fact-free found on
pages 312 and 313 of your packet. We did not receive any comment from No Lake Township for this application. Based on the application submitted, staff packet public comments and findings of fact is recommended to approve the preliminary plat of Harlland's huge walleye hideout.
Uh staff have reviewed the file and concur with recommendation from the planning commission. I'd be happy to answer any questions. >> Mr. Chairman, >> Mr. Co. So Chris, uh, can you drill down a little bit more on this, uh, of everybody owning part of the outlot?
Because I I what jumps in my mind is where we have properties in Crowing County where there's several owners of the property and um it's hard to to manage that. So what happens if
two of the people say, "Well, I'm not going to pay my taxes on that." Is it it's included in their taxes? >> Correct. >> Okay. So then >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. So everybody would have a one-/ird ownership in that out lot. >> Okay. >> Of those three lots. >> So what about this is off the subject,
but I the some of these parcels that other people own like Crowing County might own 50% and somebody else owns 25%. Did we ever get that changed where they get a tax statement or or if they don't pay it?
>> Yeah, that's that's undivided interests where if we have multiple owners under one parcel and so what this is doing is preventing that from happening down the road. >> So that that wouldn't happen in a situation like this now. So >> Okay. >> All right. >> Any other questions?
>> Yes, I have one. You show a building envelope on lot one and showing the driveway coming out to what do you call it? Grave Grave Lake Road I think is what that's called up there. >> Right there. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Now, but you also say that if that property owner came in there and wanted a permit and come out onto what's that
other road? >> 28. >> 20 county road 8. >> They could probably come in and do that. >> They'd have to get a they so Grave Lake Road to the north is a private road. That is private. >> It is a private road. >> It is. And then so if they wanted to get a highway department would would would
their first option is always to try to find ways to access property that's not off a county road. They always like to go to township roads to to maintain that pressure on the roads. Um but I did speak with Matt Cal Roose from Highway and depending on where they wanted to locate a potential access point off of
Kai Road 8, it would be an option. If you when you get to final plat you'll see there's no there's no this is just an example of what a driveway location could look like but it's it's not something that they would be required to do they >> so it is a private road it's not a publicly publicly dedicated rightaway
>> the private road >> it is a private road so it' be the owner of that road would have to give permission to that person if they wanted to use it >> well the road is actually um this that section of the road up there is actually dedicated as part of this plat everything else on the way down is all
easement based So they would be able to >> they do they do do actually have a right to use that road there right then and there they don't have to go to anybody else >> they'd have to there's a there's a the neighbors up here all have some sort of an agreement amongst themselves to maintain that road and and the cost of
you know bringing gravel grading plowing in the wind that sort of thing and so then this whoever there's no they would they would have to work with those other land owners to you know to uh participate in the maintenance of the road. Yeah. >> Thank you. If there's no other questions, I'd look for a motion to
approve the Harlland's Huge Walleye Hideout Preliminary Plat. >> Motion to approve. >> Motion by Commissioner Coring. >> I'll second. >> Second by Commissioner Franzine. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same signed. That motion
passes. 7.4 is the final plat. >> The next request is for the final plat of Harlland Hideout. All requirements have been met for final plat application and recommend approval as submitted. >> I got I got one qu one question on that. I think I misunderstood what you were explaining a little bit earlier, but
with regard to that uh northernmost lot that uh connects with Grave currently, I thought you said under the final plat that the driveway location was final. done >> the we don't so the the final um the
location for the driveway for lot one is not set they have they have they can they can get set get an application to highway to see if they can get this to to get access there or they can come off of off of grave lake road it'll be it'll be at their choice and then if they can get that access permit from highway off
of road 8 >> okay that that was my >> well they have they have access >> what I was misundersting misunderstanding is what your uh explanation on the final plat So, we're good. >> Okay. >> Oh, Mr. I was just going to say I'll make the motion to approve the Harland's
huge walleye hideout final plat. I love that name, too. >> Motion by Commissioner Coring, second by Commissioner Franzine. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. I. Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. 7.6.
>> Thank you. The uh the final request is for a land use map amendment for parcel numbers 751205 07 and 75120506 located in section 12 of Long Township. The two parcels are located north of
narrow lane road and east of 5mile road. The request is to amend the land use map from agricultural forestry to rural residential 10 involving approximately 80 acres. Uh the area that's in blue here is the is what they're requesting.
um to be um amended to um to rural residential 10. This again, like I said, this is a five mile road here. You've got narrow lane here. Uh got south long over here. Just a reminder what the colors are. The areas that are in in green are the agricultural forcet area
with a 35 acre minimum. The area that's here in blue, this would be the rural residential five. The area that you see here in this lighter blue color, that's the Shorland district. And then the area that's in pink, this would be over at Crescent Bay Resort. This would be um considered commercial one. You can kind
of see a little bit. This is waterfront commercial here. The yellow on this side here is 2.5. And the this brown up here would be um rorow residential one. Uh the uh we did not receive any comments on this application from Long
Lake Township. Uh the planning commission held a public hearing October 16th and made a unanimous recommendation of the board to approve the land use map amendment for partial numbers 75120507 and 75120506 from agricultural forestry to rural residential 10 involving approximately
80 acres. Um the plan commission board of adjustment did develop a finding effect as found on pages 300 323 to 324 of your packet for your consideration and based on the application submitted staff packet comments and the finding effect that recommended to approve the land use map amendment as submitted.
It's also been reviewed by staff and we concur with the recommendation from the planning commission board of adjustment. I'd be happy to answer any questions >> questions. >> Mr. Mr. Chair, just a question on this uh what's that blue >> kind of like >> right there? Yeah. >> Yeah. There's a there's a stream that
comes down and so the shoreline district on a stream is 300 ft. The shoring district on a lake that you see here with South Long, that's a,000 ft buffer there. And so this is a this is a public water stream. And so is a shoring district of 300 300 feet on on both sides of the of the stream.
>> And remind Mr. Chair, so remind me what the blue the dark blue is again. Dark blue is a rural residential five. So it' be a five acre minimum. >> And the the uh they're asking for R10. >> They're asking for 10. Correct. Yeah. Planning commission thought that made
sense to >> to put an R10 up in that area. >> So Mr. Chair, so um I know we approved some property that's on the um west side that's a lot of land that was
undeveloped. And does is this connected to is that blue connected to that? >> Oh, there's a there's a plat that you guys a plary plat that you guys approved uh earlier this year that would just would be down into here. >> Right down. Okay. I'm just trying to get my >> off that. Yep. Some some larger tracks
down there that uh um a family is um is developing down there. >> And then, Mr. Chair. So then on on the very edge of the paper, I would think that County Road 23 is there and this narrow lane goes over to uh 144, I would
believe. Right. It does. >> Okay. Okay. Now I got it figured out. Okay. >> Any other questions, concerns? Looking for a motion to approve. >> Motion to approve. >> Commissioner Coring makes a motion to approve. >> Second by Commissioner Franine. All in favor signify by saying I.
>> I. I. >> Not in favor. same sign. That motion passes. Congratulations, Mr. Waltz. >> And thank you, Chris. >> County Sheriff. >> Um, I don't have anything for you today.
>> Unbelievable. >> Yes. All is well. >> Really? It's all that well? >> Wow. >> All right. Thank you very much. Do we have anybody Oh, I'm sorry. >> I guess I do have some, Mr. Mr. Chair on with the sheriff. Uh you know when you
um I don't know who the point of contact is and I guess it doesn't really make any difference to me but I think it does make a difference to the highway department uh about this the um the flock camera. >> Yes. >> On County Road 2. It's like
it's like maybe two or three feet right off the edge of the road. And I know when I talked to Rob Hall, he told him to get it out of there. And I just drove by there just a few days ago and it was still there. So I I don't know. I I
think it needs to be moved out a little bit. I mean, it's literally about in the same spot as a mailbox would be. >> Oh, >> I don't know if you know that. >> I'm No, I'm not aware of that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Anyway, so >> you know, just have Rob reach out to me.
>> No. So, I don't know if that's that's gotten taken care of, but I know that it was an issue for the highway department. So, I think when they come there with a >> with their wing and this got some sloppy snow, I think that thing is going to go flying. >> I'm surprised that they have it that close, actually. So, >> yeah, I'm surprised. All right. Thanks.
>> Great. Thank you. >> Sounds to me like the flock is giving you some flock. >> Do we have anyone from the county attorney's office online >> about the turkeys along the road lately? Good morning, Mr. Chair and commissioners. >> Good morning.
>> Good morning, >> Kelsey. You have anything >> for you? >> You have nothing for us? >> I don't, but I can answer any questions you might have of me today. >> I'll just say one thing. The the background in your office looks a lot cleaner than Don's old office.
I don't know how you're handling that. >> I made some updates. >> All right. Well, thank you very much. >> Thank you. move on to the county administrator. And she's not here, but
she got somebody to cover for her. >> Well, sort of. I mean, no one could really ever cover for her, but Cara Terry Community Services. I am just reporting on our SMT meeting yesterday. Uh yesterday, we had Morgan Alouse from community services present on a project
that she's working on along with HR to provide a leadership academy of sorts for our leaders. um in the county overall. So, she's got a pretty good structure figured out. We are just working on the um preparation of the materials that will be presented to our
leaders as well as a schedule timeline of sorts um and what that's going to look like to support all of our both new and seasoned such as myself leaders for Crowing County. Uh, in addition to that, we talked about our TrackStar templates,
and we're still working to simplify the templates, but yet make them um ready to hold staff accountable, specifically around performance management and how we're going to word some um expectations and trackar templates around performance
management. Uh and then we talked about um pieces of the government shutdown and how those are um potentially impacting us. Uh as well as our current employee engagement survey. As of this morning, we have 178 staff who have completed the
employee engagement survey. It's open um for another week or so. So, we encourage staff to uh complete that. Uh any questions on the SMT meeting? >> Any questions? >> Cool. Thank you. >> Very good. Thank you very much. We move
on to 10.2, which is to schedule a public hearing for a change for the unnamed body of water to Spirit Lake. This is in Dearwood Township. >> Mr. >> Go ahead. I'm sorry. >> Commissioners, we received a petition from Mike Aspelin to change the name of
an unlamed lake in Dearwood Township to Spirit Lake. Minnesota statute requires the board set a time and location for public hearing on the petition at least 30 days from the date the petition is received. The request today is to schedule a public hearing for December 16th at 5:30.
>> Any questions? >> I would look for a motion to approve. >> Mr. Chairman, I would make the motion to set the public hearing for the change of the unnamed body of water to Spirit Lake on December
>> 16th. >> 16th, 5:30 p.m. >> Commissioner Cory makes a motion to approve. I'll second the motion to set the hearing. >> Commissioner Lee seconds that motion. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I.
>> I. Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. Next item is 10.3. I'm asking this is a personal request to um gain your support. So I'd like a
motion to nominate me for the Sourcewell board. I've served served the last four years. Um I think they bring a lot of value to our county but to our region the fivecount region area. So I would ask that uh for your support and I would look for a motion to that effect.
>> Mr. Chair. >> Sure. >> So Mr. Chair, could you just explain how region or not region five um source well how the board is laid out and h who votes on it and
how that procedure goes. So the board is made up of eight board members. Six of them are school board members voted by various uh the school districts across the fivecount area. There's two of us government elected officials. So, currently the mayor of
Little Falls and myself are the two that are elected. Um, they're four-year terms. We then um have to run again. So, any elected in the district, sub, it's called uh subdist
4 that I represent um can run for that office. Uh so, my term will be up at the end of the year here. And uh so we represent I forget what it is 17
cities, four counties and then there's Central Lakes College out here. There's Minnesota State College over in Wadina and then region five make up the 24 voting units that will eventually vote on us. So we're in the period where
we're making nominations. So, and you have to be nominated by your local government unit. So, that's the reason I'm asking today for it. Um, if there's other qu you want to know how they make their money. Is that what you >> No, no, no, no. I know how they make
their money. I just I just wanted to lay out what what's what the board is and and um it's a service co-op. >> Service co-op. Correct. So, so, uh, is Cass County board part of that?
>> Cass County, Wadina County, Todd County, Morrison, and Crowing. >> So, what could happen is Cass County could nominate somebody from their board and and um, somebody could get nominated from Wadina, but then the 24
like when it comes time to vote, if there's several choices, we get one vote here. Correct. >> Correct. So in in the end, if I go back to when I was elected four years ago, >> out of the 24 units of government that
could vote, only 15 voted. >> Okay? >> And I prevailed. I I got 10 of them. The other individual got five. But that's exactly how it works. So, but as a group, we will get one vote. >> I just thought it'd be important to lay out how this is all works. It's kind of
confusing sometimes with this government stuff, but uh >> well, it is a it's a government unit with they can't borrow, they can't tax, and they can't levy, >> right? >> So, it's it's a unique unit set up by the state of Minnesota under statute
123A.21. So, it's a >> he he looked at he didn't know that right off. He looked at it. >> Well, I knew it was Minnesota state statute. I want to make sure the right one. I want to be accurate with my facts. Commissioner Reed, you have a question. >> Yeah. Um, Commissioner Coring kind of
asked the question I was going to. Um, you and I had a chance to speak about this um, prior to this meeting and, um, that was kind of the question I had too. But, um, one of the things that I see is I think
this is a, um, a benefit for our county to have you involved in that. Um it's a good thing for all of our citizens and you know you've mentioned some of the good things that have happened um in our county because of Sourcewell. Um so I just bring that up.
If you want to expound on it go ahead. If you don't that's fine too. So I'll just say that you know Sourcewell is a unique operation unique government unit. Uh there's nine service co-ops in the state of Minnesota that were
authorized under statute 123A point. So um but source wall went from being NJPA originally most of us remember that as the national joint powers association and so it wasn't a very big organization at
the time and then leadership changed and all of a sudden one of the uh founding members fell out of a tree and they had this great idea of going out and creating a a uh cooperative cooperative
purchasing and it's just grown immensely. You know, on the revenue side, you know, we now have agreements with the United States Army, with the Navy. Um, we have another agreement that's in the hopper that we can't sign this week. We would be in in California and Monterey to sign that one, but
because of the shutdown, we can't sign it right now. So, there'll be a future signing. We have the reserves on board with this. So, that expanded us to a huge market. We also operate with local government units and school districts
and that in 28 states and then we have a partner in Canada that we operate with. But locally we we work with the Minnesota Department of Education. We work with these local government units. We I was telling uh Commissioner Lee that
um we approve millions of dollars that go out to our fivecount area. a um level four schools that we have one over here in Brainer. There's one in Little Falls, one in Wadina, one in Cass Lake. Sourcewell put $21 million into that
operation or that initiative. Um we just spent uh central Care out of St. Cloud, started up a medical school because we want to homegrow our doctors for rural Minnesota. So put a million dollars into that operation down there. they're
associated with the University of Minnesota. So, we're looking at uh initiatives there. We have another initiative that we just started up which is having every third grader and think about this. These are the kids that will be born this year that by 2035 they'll
be at reading at grade level. So, they aren't even born yet, but by 2035, we will be that initiative hopes to have every one of the kids in our five county area reading at grade level, which is a huge lift, but we're willing to take
that on. I know Ascend Rural, which is another initiative we have, is working on some uh mental health issues. We're going to have probably a news release coming out in early December on that and and where we're going with that. that it was
bringing together together a bunch of um vendors from across the country throwing out some ideas to them and then have them tell us how they would create an impact in that particular area. might be mental health. It could be I know we are we just signed a contract with
central Minnesota EMS which is a joint powers that Crowing County is a part of with uh 12 other counties to have uh Marian Larson who's our coordinator there be part of a mental health cohort where they're going to build a
particular program and it it's try trying to create efficiencies and doing more with less but having a coordinated effort across a larger geographic area. So, lots of things going on over there. I know we have sometimes issues with
they hire our our staff away from us, but they also invest an awful lot in Crowing County. Many of our our uh law enforcement, public safety people have received dollars, you know, the local police departments, the sheriff's department. A lot of collaboration that
goes on between those units. The school districts have received an awful lot of money. I bring up one person, Chi, over at our IT department was one of the interns that Sourcewell supports during the course of a year and he decided to stay on with us and he's
actually a very good employee and spends a lot of time with me. we've gotten to be really good friends because of my lack of knowledge in that area. But he's uh so it's an example of where yes, we might have some concerns about our staff going that direction, but we also get
back an awful lot and the county gets back an awful lot from their uh efforts over there. So, >> Mr. Chair, >> I think I'll shut up at this point. >> Okay, Mr. Chair, just one quick last comment. I will I will acknowledge that I uh that they are doing good work and
it's a it's a good place where we buy a lot of stuff like uh if we want to buy a greater they've already got the contract all writen up I believe and and on equipment and so they I I will acknowledge they are u doing a lot of
great things. I like to use him as my whipping boy because I I just kind of get angry that we've lost a couple of uh finance directors and other people and they they've got a lot more they can pay a lot more money than than we can and
you know working in government is not like working in the private sector where you're making big big money. you you choose people choose to work in government and um you shouldn't expect to be making huge amounts of money. But I I will I I'll acknowledge they're
they're doing good work over there. I'm still going to be angry if another person goes over there. Well, I I'm not angry at the people that leave. God bless them. If they can get $20,000 more a year, God bless them. Good for them.
So, I wish they'd offer me a job. >> I have a story for you. Well, your reputation precedes you, Paul, but um I'll tell you a quick story. I was at the the first retreat that I went to and I'm sitting in this room and you know and I'm sweating and you know because I know nothing about the organization either,
>> right? >> And you got all these brilliant people because you've warned me that they've taken the best of the best from us. >> They have taken good people. So, I'm thinking there's a couple of them sitting in this room and and the CEO Chad Ket says to me, he stopped me mid-sentence and he said, "So, I'd like
to have a show of hands of all the people that came from Crowing County or have worked at Crowing County." And I'm not kidding you. 40% of the people in the room raised their hand. I almost fell out of my chair and you know, my first thought was how do I go back and
speak to Commissioner Coring about this? But yeah, it's uh you know, they do a great job. they they have high expectations and and they reinvest in and they're required to by statute to reinvest in our our region five. So >> yeah, >> with that I'll move.
>> So I will enthusiastically I think back when I got removed as the chair I probably should hold a grudge but I'm not holding a grudge. Uh so I'm enthusiastically supporting you Mr. Chairman. So I would move that we support Chairman Barrows as the nominee
for the Sourcewell board of directors and I that's a motion. >> Thank you very much. Motion by Commissioner Coring, second by Commissioner Franzine. All I will abstain. So all in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes.
>> We'll move on to um where am I at here? We have a HA resignation and a vacancy or excuse me an appointee. >> That is correct, Mr. Chair. Uh the
vacancy was created with the retirement of or the resignation of Craig Nathan and Commissioner Franine has a Ben Wickland that she would like to appoint to that position. >> Is that correct? >> Yes. >> All right, >> Mr. Chair, I I would be willing to
probably do this in two motions. So, the first motion would be that the county board of commissioners accept the resignation of Craig Nathan from the H board. >> Commissioner Coring makes a motion to accept the resignation of Mr. Nathan.
Commissioner Franzine seconds that motion. All in favor signify by saying I. I. I. >> Not in favor, same sign. That motion passes. Here, let me do that again. >> I'd like to make the motion to appoint
Ben Wickland. >> I'll second that motion. >> Commissioner Franzine makes the motion to appoint Ben Wickland to the HA board. And Commissioner Coring seconds that motion. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. I.
>> Not in favor. Same sign. That motion passes. >> Have we covered everything? Yes, >> Mr. Chair. I see we have our our interim director of the airport here. I didn't know if he had any words or
>> Mr. Planser, do you want to tell them how many applicants we've had to replace you and how many we're not going to accept. >> Thank you. We had uh 28 applicants and we're in the process of narrowing it down. Uh the airport commission will
meet on November 6th. >> Yes. >> And we'll uh choose a committee to interview and then hopefully we'll have an appointment probably interview an appointment sometime early in December.
>> You mean you mean you're not staying on? Sir, >> it's a difficult thing to read here. I would I would like to tell you and I've repeated to some of you individually, you have such a blessed airport. It's a
great community and I haven't had uh this much this this interesting a job in a long time and I really appreciate having received the opportunity. >> Well, we certainly have appreciated you. We've appreciated the Clang family for getting us connected. I think there was
some internal voices there. Um, as Commissioner Lupkkey says, there's a lot of voices in his head. >> Hey. Hey. >> Well, I know that one. >> There's a lot in your head, too. >> No, no, no. Just Liy's head.
>> Thank you for the opportunity. >> Thank you. >> So, it's quite a process though to have that many and and most of them are from Virginia. We're out east. >> Oh, wow. But we want we we prefer somebody who likes snow is one of the
criteria. >> What you'll see in the commission the highest scoring the ones that you'll probably want to interview. Three of them are local within this crowing area. Two of them are northern Midwest.
Uh they need to understand hockey, snowmoiling, and ice fishing or it's a waste of our time. >> Right. So, all right. Well, thank you for the update. And if there's nothing else, I would look for a motion to adjurnn.
>> We will make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second, then >> Commissioner Luki makes a motion. Commissioner Franzine seconds it. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Not in favor. Same sign. Or you can hang.