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Track. It is a phenomenal place. If you haven't been here, uh my guest did ask me about the food. The food is fantastic and it's reasonable and uh they just do a great job. Plus, they also have the banquet facility if you're having a
wedding or uh we have our class reunion there. I know a lot of organizations do. And uh again, the food is very good. And I thank them for the opportunity to be here to interview the first city com the youngest ever city commissioner in the
city of Milville. Not the youngest mayor cuz that's Ben Romick, but the youngest city commissioner is none other than Ethan W. Arenhal. What's the W's name? William. William. Okay. Maternal grandfather. All right. So, how old were you Ethan when you got elected the first
time? I was 25. Yeah. young kid. I remember I used to come hang down with I remember you did. Yeah, that was a good interesting time. You always had as a goal to be the mayor of Milville. Yeah, that's true. I did. You told me that from day one, I think. Yeah, that's true. Unfortunately for Luke Glenn
Daniel talked me into it. Lord rested soul. I was 19. I had been a freeholder. Well, I didn't live in Milville for a few years. So, I was freeholder from 1983 to 1991.
And uh then I lost the election in ' 91. Ones weren't good to me. I lost in 81 91. As far as I'm concerned, I lost in 2021. Technically I won, but with the group that I was going to be serving with I lost. So I No, no, you don't want to go into that. Didn't want to go
there. But um anyway, yeah, that's something I always wanted to do. And the other interesting fact, I just was reading the UR or Milville his uh historical society book information and I am the only
person in the history of the city of Milville to ever win three terms like Santiago won two terms and he's the only one ever went two terms. Everyone was four and out four and out for one term and out. So, I'm not a for I'm not a fan
of the commission form of government, but that's not what we're here for. We're here to talk about some place I am a fan of. And I got to tell you, this is a true story. I'm driving down Buck Street and I had a a form that had to be notorized. I thought Tony Kuban used to be my notary. She worked for me, but her
notary had expired and I didn't know anybody that did not. And I look up on the sign and it says Milville Library Notary. I went right in and within 10 minutes I was in. My young man took care
of me and I got out and I was very thankful and very very reasonable and I thank u the Milville library for having that ability to provide notary service. I was just added recently the last uh 3
years or four years on sometime. Well, um first of all, let's talk about the Milro Library and the great success it's had under your leadership and it's been some good people too. I mean, you know,
Nancy Forester, you know, all that, but I mean, when did you decide that you're going to go ahead and basically double the size of the library? When did that come about? Um, it was 10 plus years ago, was it? Yeah. It
seems to me we were talking about it in 2013. Is that right? Yeah. And um we were a long time getting it off the ground because co Yeah, that's right. from even before
that was raising the money. When we first looked at the plans which were drawn up by Mr. Morgi and that's a good man. Yeah. Um a great set of plans and we we've been looking at for years but
uh the estimate at that time was I think it was $4.4 $4 million to do an addition along with renovations in the old part uh part that was built in 196263.
So the big problem was money, of course. It's always the big problem. And we got a a real boost when the Carly Foundation with their three sisters, uh,
Jacqueline and u Janie. Yeah. And um, you're younger than me. I know. I I I didn't know I was going to get there, but Uh anyway, the three sisters helped us immensely. Well, so did Marie. She
was a sweet and Marie, the mother Marie. Yep. You and I were over to her house. Yeah. Yeah, we were there. Yeah. And they they were terrific. Uh and they talked to us like we had four different meetings with them. The first
one was with Jacqueline and her two adult children and they met with Bill Fenton and I and Susan De Octavia and uh they wanted to know what we had in mind. They they actually called us for a meeting. Wow, that's
super. And we thought, oh, nothing venture, nothing made with them and they were everybody was cordial. And then that led to a second meeting at Marie's house. I think you were there. Yeah, I was there. Yeah, they had some community
people there who wanted to I think discuss the possibility of an improved library. And then there was a third meeting. There was a second meeting after the meeting you attended and that's where they told us that we're going to extend you a million dollars.
Yeah. Isn't that amazing? And the only hitch about it was we want you to match it. Yeah. Right. Well, we'd have to match it. We're talking about a $4.4 million, but because that was so many years ago. Was the state getting half? Well, I was
going to get to that. Uh, it was just a big boost from the I'm sure to begin with. Um, and that helped us raise money with other people. Some, you know, 25,000 here, you know, 50,000 there. Wow. And we got u we applied some for
some other grants. We had some million-dollar grants, but the biggest one came along in 2017 when in November there was a referendum issue on the ballot for
library uh building programming and they would match whatever you raised. Wow. So it it's it finally it took a long time even after that won the vote of nearly 900,000
people in New Jersey voted for that. Yeah, I do remember that. I was very happy to see that. And for a long time we weren't sure whether they were going to match dollar for dollar and when they finally got around to issuing or application for the money. It
took almost three years. Wow. before we had got the application. By then we were at 3.2 million and that was our match. We got 3.2 from the state. Oh, okay. From that referendum of, you know, 4
years before or something like that. So, what was the total cost? Well, we've just finished paying actually. And uh it's a it's 9 million. Wow. Give or take. Okay. It's 9 million. So let's
back up. 3 point some came from the state is always 3.2 million. Okay. Came from the state, right? And then what did you raise? Well, we raised um a million from Carl's, right? And the city was helpful. Uh they gave us
$770,000 and and all this was matched. Oh, I see. So city, you know, technically gave us twice. Yeah. Right. So that was a big boost. Yeah, also and then there was some grants through the middle development corporation. Yeah,
they do a great job and that was a big help. Jim P was the president of that and he was very sympathetic to it. Yeah. I remember being at some events and in fact I do want to extend my condolences to Jim. I was at his wife's funeral
Saturday. Carol passed away and again my condolences to the entire parent family. But boy, Jim loves the Holly City Development Corporation. Of course, Jim was a mayor, vice mayor. And to Jim's credit, he was the only person in this city's history that was the president of
the Liga municipalities. And now it's when I was mayor and he was the vice mayor. And uh, you know, I had good connections and Trenton and things of that nature. Um, what are the other things? And there were a lot of other people. 200 plus people gave amounts of the dollar
to 50,000. Oh, wow. That's fantastic. Now, you were out raising the money, right? We were beating on some doors. That was a tough job. That is a tough job. Raising money. But a lot of people were very generous and very cooperative
and and they saw the need and uh and they helped support it. We Rich Capise, longtime Milville fellow, hasn't lived in the area in quite a while. He works for Boeing. He was up for Jim Parents wife's Carol's funeral and stayed with
me and I took him and showed him the library and he goes, "Oh my god, it's beautiful." Especially with the rear entrance facing the river. It's just really, very nice. Dice inside and you got a wonderful library director. Tell everybody who that lady is. Courtney
Ree, but also the staff. We have a great staff as well. Yeah. You support her. Yeah. And Courtney's been with us for uh over 10 years and she does a terrific job for us. Yeah. And you had mentioned before we went on the air about she was
really like doing double duty. Well, yeah. She was helping you. She was making sure some of the building plans were being carried out. Little things like outlets. It's one reason we we need to renovate cuz in
1962 63 not many people were carrying around electrical gadgets like we are today. Yeah, that's true. And um so there weren't many as many outlets as we needed. So just a little thing like that. And she was all the time spotting
those things. to make sure while we're at it, let's make sure we make it a library for now and the future. We did. Yeah. One of the things talking about the library, Ethan, and you gave me some good information. The city's population currently is
27,358 and 85% of the Milville residents use the library. Is that correct? And that's pretty good. They have library cards. Okay. Large percentage. There's the door traffic is 32,161 people and uh many people speak
to the well especially yeah during co people are encouraged the library is the bridge place where people are encouraged to educate uh assist and support build relationships and certainly got a lot of those going on and uh the one other
thing I wanted to mention was Kim heirs explained very well when she was off with me the funding for the library and how the improvement authority can tell everybody how they got involved and were helpful. Yeah, I'm glad you mentioned Kim because Kim was actually a board
member when some of these decisions were made and she subsequently u began working for u the authority aka Cumberland County Improvement Authority. So she was a big help not only there but also with no development corporation. I
think she's an adviser there. Yes, I think so too. Yeah, but uh she she's been a big help. Um what was the first part of that question? Um we held the improvement authority to date. Oh yes, very very important role
and I be remiss if I don't mention them. They helped us uh they became in effect the clerk of the works, right? I oversaw making sure you know all everyone was agreeable and was headed in the right direction and that included the
architect u the sub some of the subcontractors but the main contractor is yeah they do a great job and they did a great job for us and we're still working with them and they're helping uh helping us uh put
things together. We're we're still have a couple things to finish. Mhm. But in the most part, the the building's finished. Well, it's a beautiful building. I'll say that. It is. The windows are extraordinary, aren't they? Yeah. They really make the
building. And the location where you walk around, it's facing the river. It's so much more attractive than, you know, as it was on Buck Street facing. But there's a lot of little things with the library that went into the planning. For instance, the shelving is no longer you
have to reach up. Shelving is probably chest height for most people. And that's that's the new what new libraries look like, new public libraries look like. And u the design of the building, the interior especially. I I just find it very
interesting that um the state librarian association has a group called they call it the the SWAT team. And when a library is considering an addition or a renovation, you can call in the SWAT team. It might be a group of two or
three librarians from other parts of the state and they come in and they'll go over that with you to make sure you're not leaving something out. But one of the things that came out of that was something called sight lines. S I G HT
sight lines. And that we were concerned about that because they wanted to make the you know the first floor which is most of the library that from the circulation desk and the reference desk you can see what's going on throughout
the first floor except for the gant room cuz that's in you know it's really a different part but the sightelines permit you or the staff keep an eye and it also helps us not to have to hire a lot more people, right? Yeah. So, that
that came into the planning. There was a lot of intricate planning going on. I never would have dreamt it. Yeah. That was smart. Really was. I remember guys talking about that. We're talking with Ethanov who is the chairman of the board, president of the Bill Library Board and was very instrumental in
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[Music] [Music] Welcome back to the Finish Line Pub. Jim Quinn along with Ethan Arnoff, president of the Millville Library. And lots of great things going on at the library. And Ethan, I know it had to have been
and I know we talked about it and to your credit, you really worked hard on the fundraising and thank God for the Caries and you had mentioned to me several people 50,000$25,000 that really helped and even the $5 dollar whatever they all
helped a lot. Yeah. I would um be remiss to not mention Bill Fenton as well. Bill Fenton was my predecessor. Yeah. And when he was still president and I was a mere member, I uh we talked about it and sort of got things
moving. But I credit Bill for that. Yeah, he's a great guy. Really got a lot of great people on that library board. In fact, well, we'll get to that in a minute. Okay. Um, but in the wall on the wall I should say when you come into the library
building, look to your left because you'll see a large addition of this which actually honors and u memorializes all the people that participated in the funding up to a certain point. You can't do it every week because we still got money coming
in for other projects. But I wanted to mention that and um and I I did a lot of work but there were a lot of other people that did great work with us. Yeah. It's been very interesting this library
project. Um and you mentioned the board. Uh we have a board of approximately 14. We have two vacancies at the moment. But we all feel um the board needs to be diversified.
There's a certain uh number of us who are of a certain age. Yeah. And we need some younger members. We want our board to reflect truly reflect the demographics of of the city as best we can. And I want to encourage anyone who's
looking and listening, if you have any interest at all, and certainly if you have any, we certainly like to encourage that, we would ask you to um maybe write a letter or a note expressing that interest in being on the
board. And um we certainly would there would be an interview just to make sure that you would fully appreciate what it is we're asking you to do. which really is composed of 10 meetings a year. Okay,
we don't meet in uh July and August and there would be certain committee meetings. We have committees and I forgot my list of committees but um they're all listed I believe on our website public library website would be good to look at and the board members
are also listed. If you know any of the board members and you're interested in joining the board, please feel free to talk to them or myself or the library director and you could drop off a note or a letter, whatever would be easy for you, but we really want to reflect the
community as best we can. Yeah. No, I know what you mean. And it and it's hard in every organization. I look at the boards I'm on and they all look like me and we're old, you know, well, let's say older. Older. Yeah. old. But yeah, it is. And it's And I
look older than you, so that's why you have me on. I know what you're up to. You've got the best sense of humor. That's why I have you on the uh Yeah. I mean, you're right. It is tougher to get like my children. Well, two of my kids
live out of the area. My daughter is local, but you know, it would be nice for people maybe in their 30s or 40s would like to be on the board. as Ethan said, gives perspective from all groups and all ages and things like that. And
of course, you know, the senior people that are retired have more time to devote, but it's not doesn't sound like it's that bad amount of time if it's 10 meetings a month. I'm sure that you get committee get a committee meeting or something once in a while. Yeah. Yeah.
There's uh four or five different six committees and u they meet fairly infrequently. Well, that's good. There's there's an issue that comes up that pertains Yes. They'll meet maybe
three times a year most. Right. So, tell me about this wonderful board of directors you have. Well, I I um another point just Okay. Sure. finish up on as I we're inviting you to consider membership.
Um we invite any and all and we do every month we invite the public to uh observe our meetings. And our June meeting will be June 17th if you have any interest and want to see what it's like. Um I'm famous or infamous for trying to have a
meeting that lasts about an hour. That's good. So we're not asking for Yeah. you know, 4 hour meeting or anything like that. We try to keep it to an hour and June 17th would be a good time to see what we're all about and you certainly
would be welcome and um we we would like to hear from you and like to encourage you. We certainly uh would make it so there'd be no surprises if you join the board. You would there'd be an orientation. Sure. We do whatever we
could to make you comfortable. And I think uh Jim was comment someone was commenting to me recently. Well, what a a good group we have on the board. Yeah, you do. Yeah. Yeah. And that that all work well
together. And so we try to keep it that way. Yeah. That's important. So you launched off on something else. No, I was just asking about the board members. Yes. Yeah. I guess you don't have them listed. I don't have the list with me. I don't want to forget anybody. Yeah, I
got you. Okay. I thought I had it. It's on I'm sure it's on our website. Yeah. Well, coming back to how important the library is to the city, uh like we talked about, 85% of the Louisville residents have the uh library card.
There's 32,161 people that go into the library. And uh it's a bridge, a place where people are encouraged to educate, assist, and support and build relationships. What I was impressed and I know it's been has been done for quite
a while. When I was teaching, I did home instruction and I think back to those days where I was doing home instruction and I was going into the person's home and there were times where just the student was in the home. So, there was
no one there. I mean, I know I was honorable and I didn't have any problem, but that's where you think, well, there could be a problem here. where I know now friends of mine who still do home instruction, the library offers that right where they can go the space right
built into the new addition are spatially speaking uh five six seminar rooms if you will okay and by that we mean it's a room where a small group can meet in comfort and close the door and then have their
meetings I mean a small group could be anywhere from you know three 12 could fit in there without any problem, right? And so there's a lot of that and and some of them are already being used. I forgot to mention one of the things that the pandemic uh created
and the construction and renovations, it sort of it made it so you never knew when the library is going to be open. That's a good point. Yeah. And so we're still recovering from that as are a lot of other entities. But um we we do have
there's a lot of room for uh groups to meet. We have a large meeting room which part of the design of the building was to make it autonomous from the rest of the building. So, um, when we're able to
increase the hours, until then, we our hours are like 10:00 a.m. to quarter of 8 in the evening, but we used to be 9 to 9. And ideally, if funding permitted, I'd like to see us get back to that ultimately, but um, within the hours,
the room's available if you meet the criteria. We we don't want, you know, crazy things going on. Sure. But there's room in in the library for meetings that might be helpful to the public. I was really impressed that
as I look at these meetings, you got the New Jersey Department of Transportation, USA softball in New Jersey and Spirit Health, Easter Seal, Holly City Development Corporation, which you talked about before with Jim Car, Heather Santoro, and all the good people that are there. Uh I there's a poetry
club which is a great place for a poetry club to meet and library arts club again makes sense and uh great books discussion which really makes sense in your library book clubs uh what's FPS
anyway teacher teacher somebody I guess then the oaks integrated care which is very important for people and one of the groups that Ethan's very interested and supports a lot of citizenship United to the Mars River. So that's great too because it gives them an opportunity to
there were meeting there when there's a pause there but okay hoping to get back to the okay that's I did see in January February it's when they met there and then it also said in January February you had 145 students for home
instruction that's quite a quite a number you know and that takes place in those little rooms somewhere that's great so it it solves the problem you had when you Yeah, I did a lot of home instruction. I really did. And uh you know, I was fortunate to have had some
really nice kids and that type of thing. But it's it's today's society and it's a lot of crazy things going on. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Back in the '7s, I didn't have to worry about that too much. But um the other things that we're going to talk about in just a moment
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[Music] Welcome back to the New Jersey Motorsports Park. My special guest this evening is the president of the Billville Library Board, Ethan Arinoff. And uh as Ethan has provided me with some information here that one of the
things that I find that's interesting, the budget for the city of Milville for 2023, uh the city budget itself is $42,500,000 and the library budget, the
library gets $1.2% of that budget, which is uh $533,000. And it's been that way from what I've been told for many, many years. And you know, I would like to see I I think, you know, possible maybe, you know, sometime
well we'll have a new city commission and or maybe we will have an election in November coming up. But, uh, you know, that's one of the most important things to a community is your library. And Milville has a lot to be proud of. It's one of the most beautiful libraries in
Cumberland County. You've got a super staff. I know that, you know, dealt with them. Courtney's a sweetheart, your library director. And uh, you know, some of the things that they do, the total reference activities, 6,548
uh, references, 3579. The notary that I talked about, they do 181. I think a lot of people don't know about the notary, but from the site by the four bucks. It was very inexpensive to get the uh my paperwork notorized that I need to have notorized
as well. So we talked about the budget and uh the total items owned by the library 77,041. This is mostly books, right? Well, I haven't encounters this week. Well, that's your duty. But I think last week that's and the total circulation is
22,473. Adult circulation 8943. Ebook, this is something that's interesting. Ebook circulation is 68076,87. I'd like to expand on that. Ebooks, uh there's a program familiar to a lot of
people called the Libby program, which which would be uh ebooks and audio books, and they're available if you have a Milville library card. Oh, that's good. um to everyone any patron who
wants and they're fairly uh recent books I mean I think most of them are most you know best sellers that's great and they are available to any patron in the middle of the library that is really nice and and the other thing too I'm
sure still people do you have the Wi-Fi available for people for the computers yeah absolutely so I mean that's another I know I remember a friend of mine used to sit in the parking lot of the library to use the internet and this was many
years ago and things like that but I mean that's another thing that people have the access to well and we also provide free training on computers oh that's great yeah one of the seminar um phone clearance does a great
job for us that's good people can get get um their skills honed Yeah. Yes. Well, as soon as we get this guy on Facebook, then I'll know he has Some of us need it more than others. Yeah. Me, too, though. I I tell you, it's Well, it's age. I
mean, Ryan Dowski can do anything with his eyes closed. And it takes me a long time to figure out things and I have to ask and ask people how to do it. But, uh, that's time from when we grew up to when Ryan grew up. Ryan's only in his
mid20s. So, and you know it's really something special. Somebody was showing me the AI too, artificial intelligence and my goodness. Well, and there are public access computers at the library. We have nearly 20. I believe between the
juvenile or ch children's area computers and then the adult public access computers. So, I mean, not everybody is fortunate enough to be able to afford Yeah. hardware and software. Yeah, that's really good to have as
well. I mean, even I think you have to get a fishing license online now. Oh, I'm not surprised. So, people come in and uh get their fishing license through us. It is amazing how everything's pretty much got to go through the computer, you
know. And the other thing is um we talked about ebooks and audio books, hard copy books, which some people prefer to read on their own. um or almost any book printed in
America and possibly the worldwide is available or may be available through the inter library loan program. Oh, that's right. We used to have that before years ago with the books, the inter library. They still have it. Okay. What who's it with? I mean, is it what's
the name of it? Well, it's a state of a state of New Jersey library project. Oh, okay. Gotcha. and we're part of that. Mhm. But I mean, I've had books from Alaska. Wow. California and all sorts of places. In fact, the reason I got on the
board was uh one of the former directors um said to me, I asked for a certain book and he said, "Well, I could get it for you, but would you consider joining the board?"
So yeah, it will cost you the board. That book cost me years and years of library worrying and concerns. So you know what, Ethan, when you think about your career, I mean, uh, Ethan and I taught together when you
first, I guess, got out of college and things. And then you became the director of the LI of the YMCA. Is that that was 1985. Okay. So where were you between teaching when you first started here? Is that when you went to Maine? Went to
Maine. Town manager, right? I was town manager two times over. Once in uh Maine and another time in Massachusetts. So you were the Lou Thompson of Maine and Massachusetts. Well, I was actually in a sense with much smaller budgets than
Milville. Yeah, I'm sure. And that had to be fun. Yeah, it was fun. Well, you traveled a lot too, haven't you? Travel. I did. When I was teaching, I traveled a lot. In 1971, I began traveling. And then when I Barbara and I got together, we we
began traveling. And that's Barbara is his wonderful wife who is a phenomenal cook. Extraordinary cook. She really is honest to goodness. And a sweet as seen by this. And his special ed former special education teacher as well, right? 35 years. Wow. God bless her.
She's Well, we did a lot of traveling then too. Yeah. That's nice. Oh, that was Yeah, that was good, too. When we both had summers off. Yeah, we actually participated in swapping houses. Oh, I remember that. In fact, you invited me over England.
Yeah, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That was that was really neat. Cumbridge Wells to be exact. Okay. I forgot about that. And now, of course, that's becoming a big thing, you know, Airbnb and all that stuff, but when you were doing it, you would just swap houses with people there. And well, there was a
concern a a company that Okay. provided that possibility. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. That was really Yeah. And I would visit libraries when I was abroad and much to my wife's dismay. It was funny. Speaking of that, when I went abroad, I had a
super time in Ireland. They had come to Milville when I was the mayor. We were sort of doing a arts type of exchange because we were the arts district and uh Valley Shannon and Donagle County, Ireland were very big into that. So I
got to go over there and spend a couple of weeks. That was fabulous. I mean Valley Shannon was a beautiful town. They actually reenacted the entire history of the town of Valley Shannon for my former wife and I. And uh this
was cute. I was I was there. Bill Clinton had been there two weeks before me and they they had a newspaper called the Donagle Democrat and he was on the front page two weeks before I was. I had the whole front page about Milville and what we were doing was quite a thing.
And what was really funny was one of the I met a teacher in one of the pubs and she said I said, "Oh, I used to teach." She said, "Would you come and teach my history class?" This is in Valley Shin, Maryland. I said, "I'd love to." So I went and first of all it looks like you
were in a parochial school. They all had uniforms on but it wasn't. It was public school and I had two interesting questions. One person asked me why can't Bill Clinton run again. They love Bill Clinton. And I explained this was before Trump got the picture that you're only supposed to have two four-year terms.
And everybody's gone by that. Now it may change but anyway that was I my answer back to the young lady. And then at that time, um, John Kerry was running against George Bush for president. And one of the other students said to me, uh,
mayor, he said, 'I want to know who you think's going to win. And I obviously was a registered Democrat, but I said, you know what? I think George Bush is going to win. I said, I met John Kerry and he's a nice man, but he doesn't come off like a Kennedy or a charisma or
whatever it was. So I Quinn, yeah, that's true. So he said I said to him, I'll tell you what I'm going to do is we sort of made a bet. I said I'm going to bet you €100 and if uh John Kerry wins, I'm
going to send €100 to your teacher for you. Now if George Bush wins, I want a tea bagund for your own start cup of tea. I never did get tea bag, but that was but the kids were great. I just, oh my god, it was so. But oh, I know what I was going to say. While I
was, well, this was another trip actually when I uh went out to Minnesota and spent several weeks while my former wife was going to college. Um, Sue Schwaggle, Lord, Ruster Soul, was my secretary at city hall. She made arrangements for me to meet a bunch of
mayors in Minnesota. So like you wanted to go see libraries, I wanted to go see the city halls, fly out and they they mayors would take me around, show me things so I could try to learn things to help our city with some ideas and stuff like that and that was a lot of fun to be able to do as well. So yeah, had good
times, you know, and and I know how much you love the library, so it was probably fun for you. You've traveled everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's been great. And but our library sort of uh and this is back to board membership. I mean I first fell in love
with the library when it was on the the old bank and I now it's a historical society. Yeah, that's right. And I I uh it was the first time I realized I was probably about 8 years old. Rode my bike there and parked it out front. Went in.
I thought, geez, I can have any book I want as long as it's in the children's section. and and they had maps of the world and I would pour over those cuz the maps we had at home were the one was dated 1897.
Yeah. So these were maps of you know 1952 or something. But that was part of the part of my life is the library. Yes, it has been. I want to say hello to Beth Costto. Beth is watching us and Ethan and I both know
Beth. Beth was my secretary when I was the freeholder director in Cumberland County. A sweetheart, wonderful lady. And uh but I'd like to say something to her. Sure. Beth, shape up, but don't ship out.
She's what a what a great person. She really did a wonderful job as uh the she was the secretary for the hall of preholders basically at that point in time and uh did a wonderful job and I thank her for all of that time that she
gave to the county and I know Ethan worked for the county for a while and I was a county freeh holder for nine years and then I went back for another six years so I guess I'm 15 there about 15 in Milville. So about 30 years
between the two and uh you had the opportunity to meet some wonderful people. Really really did. We'll be back with the president of the No Library, Ethan Arinoff, right after these messages. At Mint Insurance, we're proud
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Welcome back to the finish line pub. Jim Quinn along with the president library and the youngest ever city commissioner at 25 years old and he used to let me come visit with him in his office to find out things were happening and uh he had some really good people when you
were there as the director. Yeah, really did. Back to the library. Yes, that's true. Go ahead. You got the next 12 minutes, buddy. I know. I got to go through this. One thing that needs to be mentioned is we have this reference desk and when you come into the front
door library, it'll be to your right. And they are a resource that a lot of people have no idea because they can um advise you on any number of subjects. they can uh get materials that might not
might not be on our shelves but could be available uh in through statewide datab banks. Uh there is public access to technology uh the computers which I mentioned earlier and of course the uh software in
the library is available um and we schedule educational and recreational activities for young children, teens and adults presenting a variety of programs and activities in the downtown area. So we are a resource
in the community over and over again and along with all other libraries um a goal is to make learning a lifelong pursuit and that's how I've always felt and I think by making it available uh we have
a good chance of helping people who do not otherwise have access to you know magazines or books. It's it's at the library. It's for Noble residents. have a question for you. An area res used to I remember people would go in to read
the local paper, but there's no paper anymore. Do you get a paper? Well, we have the daily journalist as as it is. And we have the press. Oh, that's good. But like you've just said, they don't cover Milan like it used to be covered. No. Which is disappointing, but um
there's nothing they really have. I mean, it's just one of those situations where advertising has gone to digital to this. I mean, it's hard for me to compete. It's hard for radio stations to compete, hard for newspapers to compete. And it
is tough because without the paper, in fact, thank God, and I know you're not into it, but thank God for Facebook cuz that's where I learned some of the things that are happening. Bill Brandon is wonderful cuz he'll post on Facebook, you know, what's going on if there's a fire. There's, you know, been an awful
lot of fire recently. unfortunately in Milville. But um and it is Well, I'm glad that you have the papers there cuz I can't afford them anymore. Maybe I'll stop there and use my library. No, they're there. They're actually at the reference desk when you come in. That's
good. Unless Jim Albertson has them out. Jim's a frequent flyer is great. Yeah. Yeah. I miss uh bookstore. I used to see Jim at Bridge Ford's bookstore. Yeah. We used to high
the bookstore. Oh, back then. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I should remember. But anyway, he was there a lot. He couldn't air powder. I had once again speaking of books, if there's a book you want, I think I may have mentioned earlier, if there's a book you want, um, ask for it.
And if our budget permits and we feel it's a book that would be of interest to other people, uh, our library would would be interested in purchasing it. That's nice. That's good. Not everyone can afford books, you know, 20, 30,
$40 a shot. And that's the value of inter library loan. I I Oh, that's right. Yeah. I'm a flyer with that. But it's just amazing. It's a resource. Not people a lot of people aren't aware of the extent
of a resource that we are. And we invite everybody to come in. I know it uh some people get confused about the doors, but the door facing the river is the one you want to try to come through. Um the other door actually I mentioned the
making the gant room autonomous and that room can hold 75 80 people that have been in the room. So um and that and people can have access to that after the library is closed if we you know have a responsible person with the key. Was
that where some of these organizations be? Well, they are, but the problem is we close a quarter of eight. Oh, okay. And we haven't really u finished the policy on Gotcha. that autonomy room, but that's what I'm hoping we can do.
Okay. In the near future. It's a goal of mine. Yeah. Over the next year or so. It's nice to utilize the library and you know have opportunities and um you know it's also a nice gathering place for people to see each other and be able to you know do all the stuff they want to
do. There's even upholstered seating now. No kidding. That's right. Wow. Never used glass. Huh. That's really nice. You know there's some I mean so what every chair like now what are the hours during the
week? Well, as I mentioned previously, u um we open at 10:00 in the and we close on weekdays at uh quarter of 8. It used to be 9 to 9. Yeah. I I I
wish we could have enough funding to permit that again, but um and then Saturday hours are different. They're they're lesser. And in summer there are no Saturday hours. Gotcha. people are down over Union Lake or up down beach cal.
Yeah, we we we have to be uh prudent. Yeah. No, I understand. Fruital. Yeah. With the same budget for the last 10 years, I can see where it's very difficult. Luckily, uh and this is tribute to our staff. Uh and Courtney's
one of the chief exponents of this. They're looking for grants all the time. That's great. And u I don't know how many she does a year. It'd be a lot. I would have She's wonderful. And she's gotten funding from children's programs,
adult programs. We've had uh New Jersey authors come in and speak. Oh, wow. That's neat. People who have written books about New Jersey. One guy came in and his subject matter was the diners of New Jersey. Yeah, that's popular. I've seen that on
Facebook. Yes. We had another fellow come in. I wish I had their names, but I don't have it in my memory. But one guy came in, he wrote a book about uh the history of the Delaware Valley and different features of it, right? History. That's nice. And which included
a lot of New Jersey, right? So we uh there's a lot of uh entertainment value for the library. That's wonderful. Really is. We want people to take advantage of it. What a beautiful building. I'd say over and
Migi and of course with the help of the subcontractor and the subcontractors too CCIA help the um Ethan you ran into one thing about pipe or electric or something there. Yeah, remember that? Well, when they were digging the
footings for the the new part, they came across an old duck work. I think it had a copper cover to it. Oh, and but inside was a electricity wire and nobody
knew the origin of it. Didn't know we'll have an electric plant at one time at high. Well, no one was sure. People didn't know, we'd have to have a seance to talk to them. Oh, yeah. That's true. But so we were afraid if we cut into
that, you know, the electric on the west side would go out. We thought that would be a lot of trouble. Yeah, that would be. Yes, for sure. So we it took us weeks to get that resolved. Wow. Because we contacted the electric company and and I forget who
else. And it all seemed like they were going like this and nothing was being resolved. Finally, it was determined. Um, we had I think we had to hire a consultant determined that they they weren't the live wires. Thank God.
But that whole weight was made us live wires. Yeah. I remember we wanted to get this resolved. Yeah. And uh we have a few minutes left that if you want to remind people that you still need a couple of library board
members and we always will. I mean uh there's a turnover a certain turnover but um yeah we're looking to fulfill the demographics in Milville and envy. So that would be uh regardless of you know race, creed, income or uh or age but we
are looking for younger people if possible because not all of us are young anymore. It's hard to get younger people involved it seems like. Well, I think one of the problems is it's highly legitimate. I mean, today it's it's cost
a lot of money to operate a home and a family. So, a lot of even with there's two parents in the house, so they might both have to be working. Yeah. Good point. Bill. So, I mean, that's understand. And that's a good point because a lot of the people that are involved with you are retired or they're
retired. They have the time. They like helping and giving back to the community, which is wonderful. I thank them all for their time and their effort. and one of my favorite people in the world. Tony Kuban used to be on the library board. Tonyy's a great member. Yeah, she's We wish her well, too. Yeah,
Tony get better. Keep get better. Stay standing as well as you can. It's It's funny. I got to tell you a huge story. Right now, there have been three women who have been phenomenal. My lawyer is a woman, Tony Kuban, who was the blue
broadcast together, and now Bobby Michael. So, I have three key people with men's names. Tony, Terry, and uh Bobby, but it's all the eye. As I always laugh, I say the three of the phenomenal
workers I have have a guy who's named Bob Wood, which is popular. So, what's the point, Jim? Well, it's cute. I think that they have all three have when I'm dictating into my phone to text them something. I got to go back and change
the lie to when I But three better women you will never ever find. I've been blessed to have uh Terry as my attorney. Bobby took Tony's place and uh they were both equally excellent people to have
and uh I want to thank you for having us on and uh if any of your viewers have questions for you, please direct them to us. Sure. I I know his home number. I give it to school. Yeah, I'm in trouble. So, but uh we we'll try to answer any
questions we have. That's another value that that resource the reference knife. They can find a lot of things you can't imagine. No, that's wonderful. Ethan, thank you so much for coming in and thanks for being such a great friend. Ethan and I have been friends for many, many years and gifts and gives and gives
to the community and has for his entire life. One last blast here. I'm just Can you read that? I don't think you can read it. Libraries are essential to democracy. Okay, that's true. They truly are. And before we wrap
up though, there was a guy named Remy Aronov who was his daddy and I loved that man. He was my shoe guy. And that's the only place I ever went was Aronov shoe store. And uh and that's why this guy's so good cuz his dad was one of the nicest people you'd ever meet in your
life and had the sense of humor that Ethan has and all that stuff. I like him. Yeah. Anyway, thanks for joining us. Ryan Dowski, thank you for producing the show. I want to thank Brad Scott, everyone at the New Jersey Motorsports Park for hosting the inside track and
we'll see you again real soon. Take care. Bye. Byebye. Now, is this going to be beamed across from the ocean to the anywhere? Servicemen surveying around the world. Yeah, they go with YouTube. They can watch it anywhere they want.
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