I'd like to call this meeting to order. >> Adequate notice of this meeting was provided in accordance to chapter 231 public law 1975. >> We'd like to take a moment of silence. You can stand for the pledge of
allegiance led by Commissioner Doug. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Rosino. >> Commissioner Alrech >> here. >> Commissioner Merrell >> here. >> Commissioner Lo present. Commissioner Taylor >> present. >> Deputy Director Marawn >> here. >> Director Sorrow >> here. >> Do I have a motion and second dispense with the reading of the minutes from
last public meeting? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> There is no correspondence. Ordinance 2025-4. I reporting compliance with NJSA4A
2-17 so that ordinance may be read by title only. Do I have a motion and second to have the ordinance be read on final reading by title only? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Ordinance 2055-4.
ordinance reappropriating $2,385,774 proceeds of obligations not needed for their original purpose in order to propose the expansion of the Cumberland County Technical Education Center in the County of Cumberland, New Jersey. Do I have a motion and second to open public comment on the ordinance? So move
>> second. All in favor? Anybody from the public that wish to come forward and speak of the ordinance for the tech center come down?
Seeing none, motion to close. >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I do. >> I have a motion and second. The motion for the motion for the ordinance 2025-4
be finally adopted. So moved. Second. >> Roll call. Commissioner Alrech. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Romero. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Lo. Yes. >> Commissioner Taylor. >> Yes. >> Deputy Director Marshon. >> Yes. >> Director S. >> Yes. The ordinance, the summary terms of which are included here, has finally
been adopted by the county of Cumberland, the state of New Jersey on August 19th, 2025, and the 20-day period of limitation within which a suit, action, or proceeding questioning the validity of such ordinance be can be be commenced as provided in the local body has begun to run from the date of the
first publication of this statement. Copies of the full ordinance are available at no cost during regular business hours at the clerk's office for members of the general public to request the same. Do I have a motion and second to open public comment on recognitions only? >> Motion second. All in
>> favor? I anyone from the public wish to uh speak on resolutions only? Please step forward and give uh uh what do you call your name and your location. Um Sandy Asabidito, Upper Deerfield
Township. Um on resolution 2025506. First, I guess congratulations are in order. Uh to the victor goes the spoils. Our state legislature in their infinite
wisdom along with special interest have set the stage for this resolution that you will be approving tonight for a long time now. New authority has been in the works for some time just needing the right board
of commissioners to sign on and evidently that's you. The scene has become all too familiar. The intentional dismantling of our institutions so as a few unscrupulous
persons can swoop in and save them. You know, come to think of it, this may be the reason why the abandoned cement pad that we're stuck with because they came up with a better idea, another authority. Just what we need.
Keep in mind, this will be an independent taxing authority. I repeat, an independent taxing authority. So when this new authorities board members salaries get bloated, which they
will, and the budgets they build grow out of control, which they will, Cumberland County will have to have no say, and the taxpayers will have you to thank for that.
Of course, we know you'll be long gone with whatever spoils you lead with while we're left paying the bills. So, while you are the latest group of commissioners to feed the beast, cuz you
do get hungry, and we know that you will no doubt come and go just like your predecessors. While we the taxpayers are left in the wake of drowning debt, bad deals,
mounting lawsuits, broken promises, and by design, we will still be the poorest county in the state. You know, it's kind of ironic that you voted in because the electorate didn't
like our board members taking orders from, wait for it, the very same people you are taking orders from today. Because when you live in an area where you can't tell the difference between
the Democrat and the Republican politicians, you suddenly realize you are all just puppets put in place to do the dirty work. And so far, you have been doing an awesome job.
They must be proud. But history has a way of repeating itself and we're witnessing that tonight. I just hope you get to witness it on election day. And another question I will the county
have to hire and pay for this liaison salary that's mentioned in the agreement. Uh 479. >> Uh you're cancelling a bunch of uh Dean Hawk, I'm sorry, by Deerfield.
um you cancelled a bunch of uh capital projects and and I'm I'm wondering why are they even there if we don't need them and I I eventually tonight I would like
some kind of an answer for that. What what what do we have all these things on our books when we don't even need them in your opinion because your guys are the guys that that are answering it? Um
you had the uh the brides and culberts $896,000. Can I ask well my question is where's that money going to go since we've already set it aside when we made a budget.
I remember a a a family came in here maybe five, six months ago complaining about a problem they had where their son ran off a bridge and he's waited for years to get
something done to take care of his his hospital bills and his damages and his car. Is it going to go to this family or is it just going to disappear? Or is it going to go to
this secret place where we all answer to? Now I I eventually sometime tonight I'd like to have some kind of an answer because I know when I stand up here all I get is blank stairs and that's okay. But I'd
like to have some kind of an answer. Why are you canceling stuff when somebody somewhere at the beginning of the year said, "Geez, we need it and let's put this money up." So, if you can think about it as the day goes tonight goes on,
I'd appreciate to hear an answer. Thanks. >> Thank you. Good evening. I'm Nancy Vidway from Upper Deerfield and Fairfield Townships and resolution 2025 or 69.
It's a resolution affirming emergency to exist on Maple Avenue over the Maple Creek covert downtownship regarding complete foyer of the
structure and affirming the repair thereof to South State Inc. estimated 3,721,146. [Music] Uh Mr. Hawk just mentioned that a gentleman was here from downtownship
about this same cover a few months ago. a few months ago and tonight, August the 19th, 2025, we're saying an emergency exists, which I find unbelievable.
It's been an emergency when somebody got hurt down there and a vehicle got damaged and uh now you're going to take appropriate action. I don't know if you took any action after the gentleman was here with his son and his family.
But I do know where you haven't taken any action. It says here in the second paragraph, whereas set outage presents an immediate danger to the safety of the public using that road roadway,
it creates further degradation to public and private properties, restricts the flow of Maple Creek, and must be repaired. immediately. And what you've done on Indian Lump
Branch is restricting the flow, damaging Nancy Ridgeway's property with flooding every time we get 2 in of rain putting water in people's basement.
And we don't do anything about that. But you are concerned about public and private properties with this resolution. Thank you. >> Anyone else wish to come forward? If not, a motion to close. >> Motion to close public portion of the
meeting. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Um, what I'd like to do, uh, Mr. Hart, could you explain when you cancel funds? >> Sure. >> Reappropriate them and why you're doing
it. >> So, if you look back at the history, >> I can't hear you. >> If you look back over the history, >> it might be helpful. Yes. Thank you. >> Hello. Good evening. You'll notice this
ordinance was passed in 2017 and if you go back over time and look at all these ordinances, these were funded. So these projects have not been used to this point. For clarity, this goes back to capital
surplus. It doesn't go to any of the categories mentioned previously. These are subject to arbitrage. So we can be penalized if we don't spend this money down. That's what we're not doing. We're repurposing these or using it to pay
down debt in the future. So it's going to go into capital surplus until such time a decision is made. Isn't that >> Mr. Hart? Could is some of these projects that we've actually saved money on and so we have balances left over and now they're sitting there. So you just
cut a cancel to move it into. >> So each one of these has its own story and that could be one of these. We have to look at the details. >> Okay. One one thing that I'd like to bring up before you continue the resolution that we just passed meaning $2 million two plus million dollars for
the vote due to the manufacturing uh uh building that's going to be built there. we were able to reappropriate these funds, some of these funds from other projects that weren't being used
to that. So, we did not have to borrow money for that project. Is that correct? >> Yes, sir. That's what the goal is. >> Also want to add really quick, there's interest costs when you borrow this money. So, if we pay down the debt, we
actually save money by doing that. >> Thank you. Uh, I'd like to I'd like to be able to help you, but you you go first. >> Okay. I'd like to clear up a couple things on this Maple Avenue uh issue.
Maple Avenue happened last year, June of 2024. So, I was there that that morning. uh after it happened and so was at the time director public parks were both there. All right. So Maple Avenue
over Maple Creek emergency structure replacement in response to requests from downtown the can began design and permitting on a replacement structure for then existing two corrugated pipes in 2023. Following the structures
catastrophic failure in 20 in June of 2024, the project was accelerated on an emergency basis and construction is scheduled to begin within the next few weeks on a replacement concrete box structure with associated safety hardware improvements. Now you say,
well, why did it take over a year if if it's an emergency was designated an emergency? Well, let's study the state, okay? Right? We have to follow DP guidelines. Every time we come up with a design, it has to be sent to them. What
do they do? They review it. They send it back with uh improvements that they would like to see. So, we do the improvement, we send it back again. This could go on four or five times, right? We're having the same situation uh when it comes to South Avenue. All right.
with South Avenue which is over two and a half years >> three years four years four years >> the point I'm getting at is that not only had the D it had historical involved it had the Army Corps of
Engineers involved and we still we are still now mind you at the NJ do DOT uh they just as uh addressed another design change consult and and they sent it back
to us for us to make the change. We're making the change. We're hoping we are hoping that this is the final change that has to be made. Right? We've made phone calls up there saying we have people suffering because you
people aren't doing your job, but we are at their will. We cannot cuz I I'm Doug's on I'm going to let Doug speak but I've called Doug and said can't we at least do the design get it register so when they say okay we just
immediately initiate it and the answer is no because they might change it then we would have to pay for another redesign are you on the phone? Yes, sir. For the record. >> Okay. Could do you want to add to you
want to add anything? >> No, I I think you pretty much covered the timeline. That would have been the only thing I would have added to was um we are encountering we have encountered plenty of falls in the road, but the uh the intent is to move forward. We all
agree possibility. It will certainly be under construction start before South Avenue. >> Okay. So, I just wanted to clarify those things. Doug, if you don't have anything, you're good. >> Yes, sir. >> Thank you. Um, we'll report on a couple
other things later on, but I just want to clear up those things when it came to uh Maple Avenue and what was going on and when it really happened. It happened uh in June of 2024. And literally we are ecstatic that we
were able to do something with a little over a year when it comes to the D and DOT. Okay. Um Clark, let's let's move on. >> Excuse me. You still have necessity questions. >> Oh, I'm sorry. I apologize.
>> The I I just wanted to point out some important factors going back to 20 2023. the report from CGL which is which is the company that was doing the analysis and the planning for that for the jail on Buck Shoot Road and at that point the
the cost for that jail project was $424,758,63 um at this point um that that project that project was only bonded for 605 >> $65 million hence a unique issue Um why
would we bond for 60 6465 million when it's a when the quote basically call for 424 almost $425 million? Um the the question on the liaison's pay. Do we have an answer on that? So the
legislature acted in 2024 with uh an update to what used to be the joint meeting law and this one is a regional authority law. Right? So, the regional rehabilitation and re-entry center authority act, which is incidentally the law that you were
trying to use to do a a joint deal with Salem and Gloucester, provides for one representative from each board and it does not provide for compensation to them. That law was passed in late 2023,
updated and codified in 2024. And that's what you're working off of. One representative from each county. Um, and authority. Uh no veto power per se. Um that's that's what you're acting under
at this point. >> Thank you. When it happened if it happened to be an even amount of counties, of course, whoever has the largest amount will be would have two uh uh individuals on that board. >> There is not anticipated >> each each county will be represented.
And the other thing that's important that we were working under these guidelines when we were working with Salem County, they decided they and decided to change the rules in Midstream and that is when we stopped. Okay. So, this is nothing different than what was
what we were working with with Salem County. All right. Uh this should save the county a tremendous amount of money. Uh we will be taking off our books because of course we don't want to tax individuals twice. So we will take off our books everything to do with the the
jail. Okay. And they would be the taxing authority. That is correct. They will be. But each county is represented on this. Uh >> and the law requires no slush. Meaning if it's jail budget, it goes away, >> right? Because you can't charge for it twice.
>> Exactly. Okay. Very good. What do you directed? You want to bet any numbers at all? just that that this is important because actually some of the numbers I was asking about just just in the short run. >> Well, I was going to do the vote and everything and that explain I was I'm
trying to I guess move the meeting on um >> department had comments. >> Um director I see we do have one of our board of trustees members from RCS here to give a report. I don't know if you want to do that at this portion of the meeting or if you want to
>> Well, no, she's not a department. idea >> because typically we don't have our board of trustees members here. So >> let's wait on that just right now. Okay, let's try to move on in in a uh orderly fashion. Madam clerk,
>> consent agenda resolutions. Resolution 2025-434, resolution authorizing purchase from New Jersey state contract vendor for purchase of global teleink inmate resident communications control service for the department corrections.
Resolution 2025-435 resolution approving budget amendment fiscal year 2026 alliance to look at alcoholism and drug abuse22,132 resolution 2025-436 resolution authorizing agreement between the county of Cumberland and participating municipalities for the
administration of the mun municipal alliance grant to prevent alcoholism and drug abuse for the contract period July 1st 2025 through June 30th 2026. Six. Resolution 2025-437, resolution authorizing the award of a non-fair and open contract for annual
software support maintenance services for the jail management system for the Department of Corrections. Resolution 2025-38 resolution awarding a contract for providing services for children, adults, and families funded by the Cumberland County Department of Human Services
Human Services Advisory Council. 2025-439 resolution awarding contract for specifications for Cumberland County ADA Fairgrounds improvements bid number 24- 53 resubmission 2025-440
resolution authorizing acceptance of funding for the state of New Jersey department of law and public safety state fiscal year 2024-25 mental health diversion grant program 2025-441 resolution approving budget amendment
state fiscal year 2024 4-25 mental health diversion grant program $1,300,000 2025-442 resolution exercising first option to renew contract for interment services at the Cumberland County Veterans Cemetery
RFP 24-29 2025-43 [Music] Resolution awarding contract for supplying and delivering inmate clothing and various supplies to the Cumberland County Department of Corrections bid number 24-30 resolution 2025 5-444 resolution
authorizing purchase from Omnia Partners National Cooperative Contract Vendor for AB Leon proprietary CCTV equipment and lensure for the Department of Information Technology 125-445
Resolution authorizing payment of services to the Center for Family Services pursuant to grant award to the Center for Family Services and the Cumberland County Prosecutor's Office. 2025-446 CH159 Child Advocacy Development Grant Treatment Services Programs and
Technology $164,184 2025-447 Resolution approving change order number five to contract for engineering services support for the P25 700 megahertz digital trump radio system qualified for RFQ number 19-50 as needed
architectural and engineering services. 2025-448 resolution authorizing the award of a non-parent open contract for annual support maintenance for civil service support for the sheriff's office. 2025-449 resolution authorizing the award of a non-parent open contract to provide
annual software license warranties for the board of elections. 2025-450 resolution authorizing the award of a non-parent movement contract to provide support maintenance for precinct central proprietary software and Moroi mobile device management
2025-451 resolution approving change order number five to contract for acquisition and installment of a 7 a700 megahertz radio system for the office of emergency management 2025-452 resolution authorizing purchase from the New Jersey state contract vendor for
providing as needed 5 gallon bottles of spring water and associated hot cold water coolers 2025-453 resolution exercising first option to bring a contract for innovation grant for providing sober living pass through payments RFP number 24-57 resubmission
2025-454 resolution exercising first option to renew contract for innovation grant for providing sober living pass through payments RFP number 24-57 2025-455 resolution approving Change order number one to contract for providing out of
school youth industry focused occupational training internship services from Salem County and Cape May County. First renewal term 2025-456 resolution approving change order number one to contract for community support services older Americans act services for the elderly and disabled for the
2025 through 2027 area plan contract RFP number 24-55. 2025-457 resolution approve change order number one to contract for community support for services over American child services for the elderly and disabled for the 2025 through 2027 area plan
contract RFP number 24-55 resolution 2025-458 resolution declaring a 2009 homesteader trailer model number 612 CS bin number 5 HAVP12199 003215
as circle as an energy property and authoriz Rising sale of Mars River Township Fire Department, Fire District number one, Lee Bur Fire, Leburg Volunteer Fire Company, station number 26, 2025-459 resolution authorizing approval to submit a grant application and to
execute a grant agreement with established Justice Commission for CY 2026 Comprehensive Town Youth Services Commission Plann and Application 2025-460 resolution authorizing application to and grant agreement with New Jersey Transfer Transportation Funding for
Elder Mainly disabled residents. 2025-461 resolution approving budget amendment radiological emergency response plan 129,776. 2025-462 resolution authorizing application to and grant agreement with New Jersey Transit in the US Department of
Transportation for grant funding under Federal Transit Act section 5311 from January 1st, 2026 to December 31st, 2026. 2025-463 resolution cancelling expired contracts for August 2025 covering materials, services, and supplies.
2025-464 resolution authorizing purchases from state contract vendors. 2025-465 resolution granting approval to submit a grant application and execute grant agreement with the New Jersey Department of Human Services for the state fiscal
year 26 jail medication assisted treatment re-entry initiative 2025-466. Amendment to resolution 2024-4679 resolution authorizing grant agreement with the New Jersey Department of Human Services, Division of Family Development for the calendar year 2025 for the
provision of social services for the homeless. 2025-467 resolution approving change order number one and final to contract for the 2021 TTF road program, City of Noble, Cumberland County, New Jersey, bid number 22-49.
2025-468 resolution approving change order number one and final to contract for 2022 road program CR 608 6662697 and 731 cities of Briden and Milville Townships of up of Deerfield and Upper Deerfield Cumberland
County New Jersey bid number 23-10 2025-469 resolution affirming emergency to exist on Maple Avenue over the Maple Creek Colbert downtownship regarding complete failure of the structure and affirming the repair thereof. 2025-470
resolution amending resolution 2025-2277 exercising first option to renew contract for providing out of school youth industry focused occupational training internship program services for Salem County and Cape May County 2025-471 resolution amending resolution 2025-278
exercising first option to renew contract for providing out of school you need youth service industry focused and occupational training internship program services for Salem County and Kate May 2025-472 resolution amending resolution 2025-279 exercising first option to renew
contract for providing inschool youth service industry focused training internship program services for Kate May County 2025-473 resolution amending resolution 2025-280 exercising first option to renew contract for providing out of school
youth industry focused training and internship program services in Cumberland County 2025-474 resolution amending resolution 2025-363 awarding contract providing out of school youth youth industry focused training and internship program services
in Cumberland County 2025-475 resolution amending resolution 2025-365 awarding a contract for providing onetop career services WA title 1B adult dislocated worker and youth services for the county of Salem
resolution 2025-476 resolution approving change order number one to contract for providing one-stop career services WA title one adult dislocated worker and you need services for the county of Salem resolution 2025-477 resolution authorizing grant agreement
with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for 2025 federal road program FAP 2025 Cumberland County 00008 2025-478 resolution approving budget amendment 2025 federal road Program Townships of Fairfield, Florence, and Stoke Creek,
Cumberland County, $2,300,000. 2025-479 resolution authorizing cancellation of appropriated reserves in the capital fund. 2025-480 resolution amending resolution 2024-780, resolution acknowledging the submission
of a grant application and authorizing execution of a grant agreement with the Juvenile Justice Commission for the 2025 Juvenile Detention Alternatives Initiative Innovations Funding. 2025-41 resolution authorizing grant agreement with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for fiscal year 2026
county aid program grant funds 2025-42 resolution approving budget amendment fiscal year 2026 annual transportation program 7,227,733 resolution 2025-483 resolution authorizing approval to accept the grant award from the New
Jersey Department of Health for the senior farmers Market Nutrition Program 2025-4 Resolution approving a budget amendment Wake Senior's Farmers Market Nutrition Program 2025 $3,250.
Resolution 2025-485 resolution authorizing modification number one to agreement with the New Jersey Department of Transportation for additional federal aid funds for Newport Street Improvement Project downtown. 2025.40 states resolution authorizing the award of a non-fair and open
contract for providing professional services of independent monitoring of CFD in accordance with requirements of the Department of Justice at the Cumberland County Department of Corrections 2025-487 resolution authorizing approval to exercise renewal of a grant agreement with the state of New Jersey Department
of Human Services Division of Mental Health and Addiction Services for the Disaster Response Crisis Counseling 2025-488 resolution approving budget amend Budget amendment disaster response crisis counseling grant program $30,000
2025-489 resolution approving budget amendment SH25006 M1 homeless shelter $150,000 resolution 2025-490 resolution amending resolution 2021-41
in order to accept the grant extension of one additional year for the BJA fiscal year 21 comprehensive opioid stimulate and substance abuse sitebased programs. 2025-491 resolution authorizing application to the New Jersey state attorney general's
office for the state fiscal year 26 operation helping hand grant program 2025-492 resolution authorizing purchase of renewal of various IT support services including cyber security for Alto networks under the New Jersey Cooperative Purchasing Alliance contract
number C04 subcontract number 24-38 for the Cland County Department of Information Technology 2025-493 resolution authorizing purchase of our free of intrusion of intrusion alarm system under the bid number ESCJ23/24-32
contract number 65 MCECCPS Educational Services Commission of New Jersey New Jersey approval co-op number 65 MCESCCPS for the Cumberland County Sheriff's office. 2025-494 resolution authorizing grant application
to the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection Green Street and storm water infrastructure mapping grant program. 2025-495 resolution authorizing adoption of evacuation zones for the county of Cumberland. 2025-496 resolution approving change order number
one to contract for providing professional engineering design services for the preliminary engineering phase of the Newport streetscape improvements project three pre-qualified per RFQ number 21-47 as needed general architect and engineering consultant services awarded
by resolution 2021-736 2025-497 resolution approving change order number one to contract for providing plumbing repair services for the county of Cumberland and the Cumberland County Cooperative Contract Purchasing System identifier number 181 CC CCPS bid number
23-06 resubmission resolution 2025-498 resolution granting final approval of the Benture Farm application to sell development easement 2025499 resolution granting final
approval of the Cox Blizzard farm application to sell development easement 2025-500 resolution granting final approval of the Pichu farm application to cell development easement. 2025-501 resolution recognizing August 31st, 2025
as international overdose awareness day and inviting all to attend the 9th annual overdose awareness candle light vigil on the August 28th, 2025 at the Cumberland County Fairgrounds. 2025-502 resolution declaring September 2025 as
National Recovery Month. Resolution 2025-503 Resolution authorizing Cumberland County to opt in to participate in National Opioid Litigation Settlement. 2025-504 resolution authorizing Cumberland County to opt in to participate in national
opioid litigation settlement. 2025-505 resolution authorizing a shared service agreement between the county of Cumberland and the county of sale county of Camden for the provision of adult inmate interim housing 2025-506
resolution authorizing memor memorandum of agreement between the county of Cumberland and the county of Camden for the planning and construction of a southern New Jersey rehabilitation and re-entry center 2025-507 resolution authorizing a lease between Cumberland County and Cumberland County
Improvement Authority for Workforce development one-stop operations resolution 2025-508 resolution authorizing payment to the Cumberland County Salem Conservation District. Resolution 2025-509, Resolution authorizing increase of
monetary stealing for legal expenses in the matter of an investigation of complaints made by employees of the Division of Social Services in accordance with NJAC 530-5.3 through NJAC 530-5.5 2025-510
resolution authorizing increase of monetary ceiling for legal expenses in the matter of PDA 396 contract negotiations in accordance with NJAC C 5 col 30-5.3 through NJC col 5 col 30-5.5
2025-511 resolution authorizing assignment of litigation matters filed against Cland County concerning the Cland County Juvenile Detention Center 2025-512 Resolution authorizing assignment of litigation matters filed against Cland County concerning concerning the
Cumberland County Juvenile Detention Center 2025-5 513 resolution authorizing the adoption of the bylaws of the opioid advisory council. 2025-514 resolution authorizing shared service agreement between the county of
Cumberland and participating governing bodies for the meing assistant services 2025-515 resolution appointing Don Bell to assume the responsibilities of county emergency management coordinator. 2025-516 resolution appointing Brian Curley of
Vinland as a department head of the Cumberland County Department of Public Works. 2025-517 resolution reappointing member to the homeless trust task homeless trust fund task force. 2025-518 resolution awarding a contract for
providing various medical services for the Cumberland County Department of Corrections RFP number 25-29 2025-519 resolution authorizing payment of bills >> any discussion >> any discussion on the uh resolutions
I I have comments so somebody else wants to go First, I have two I'd like to discuss. Um, I know I discussed this with you, Kevin, earlier, 496 and 497. These are two fairly large change orders, and I know there's reasons for that, but I would just like to uh get
that out so that um we'll start with um 460. I' I'd like to let specifically because this is an engineering thing. I'll ask I'll ask Doug Whitaker, our engineer, speak on that, >> Doug. >> 496.
>> 496. 496. >> Yeah, I'm here. I'm just scrolling down. 496 I'm talking about. >> Very good. >> Um, uh, 496 that is the new Ford Streetscape improvements project. Um that is a grant that downtown should receive for
sidewalk and lighting improvements along a couple county roads. Um it's not actually a county project, but they're not authorized to run federal projects. So we're running on their behalf. Um with a federal project such as this,
there's multiple design phases. Um this change order uh while it looks like it's a massive change order is actually a completely separate design phase. The initial 300 uh $100,000 was for
engineering design phase. Um when you're working with federal funds instead of going out and acquiring a separate consultant for the final design phase which is this one. uh they just do basically a modification uh to the contract so they can allow to keep the
same consultant. Um but at the county level basically that that to authorize that it is a change order um on paper but it is a completely separate design change and it's a large percentage change order.
>> You see I think the point is that when you look at it on the agenda it seems deceit. So, I wanted to get that out there. And then if you could also Kevin touch on 497. >> And I can speak directly on this topic. Um, this is uh this is a a second renewal of the of the plumbing services
contract and our vendor is Northeast Plumbing Services. This would be their second renewal. Um, there was an original contract. This would be the second of two renewals. Um and it also includes it also includes a um a large
additional expenditure to replace or and reinstall and and reactivate what's called the the monster the muffin monster which basically is a is a a mechanism that's used at the jail. any
waste that comes down, trash, anything gets ground into this unit and sent out so that it it allows it allows for all waste to be um shredded to a point of of the rejection through through the sewer
system. Um that was that was a portion a portion of this increase as well as the renewal of the of the second term of their contract. Hence the 167.3%. >> Thank you, sir. Anyone else? >> Yes.
>> Yes. >> Okay. For 469 and 496 are both located in down township. Um especially 496. I think it would probably be in my best interest to abstain as I have a property that that
project will affect my congress. >> You've identified it. You put it on the record. That's appropriate. >> Okay. And 469. It doesn't affect the property, but I live there. Is that okay to vote? less of a nexus, but that you would hurt your conscience. If you care to abstain having future reasons on the
record, that would be >> okay. >> So, if you feel better doing that, the cl >> Okay. Thank you. >> 4696. >> Will you abstain on those two? >> Uh, if I can vote on 469, I'll vote or Yeah, 469, I'll vote 496. I think I do
need to abstain from Okay. >> Anything else? Good. Commissioner, anything? No. Mr. Albert? >> Yeah. Thanks, director. Um, just just I'll try to go quickly as possible here.
So, um, number 19, I'm going to vote no on that. Uh, 21. I this is obviously a comment here, but it's it's on a different uh resolution,
but uh the this this is another contract for uh for Catholic Charities. And I just want to point this out so people know that Cath Charities has been responsible for our uh our um rental uh assistance program
which when people are not just rental but people fall behind in the building for health reasons. They're sure if they get sick or family emergency that they fall behind. There's a program set up by the county to help well it's not just set we get funded to help people uh get
back on their feet and then from then on out they're okay. Uh we've had uh and I I'm Kate uh mentioned her name because uh I sent as less on to human services. I sent people over to the to a person that contracts this company that
contracts this Catholic Charities to handle this and I I got feedback from many people that they did not return calls. They answer a phone the doors are locked. Well, we contract them for a reason. And so I asked further questions
why uh are we having problems with Catholic Charities? And I the response was we were having problems and they actually did a audit of the services and to tell them what they needed to upgrade or do better. Now, uh,
meanwhile, our the most desperate people in our county are asking for help at the most desperate time because they could be out in their their ear because of a a circumstance, something happened. Um, and the organization we chose to uh that
bid on it wasn't there for them. Uh we also had another agency in the county pick up and last month we voted on giving them money to help these people and they have done a stellar job of uh getting the money out on the street and
doing it. That was rural development. Now since and I wanted it this month to have this uh contract pulled the director and uh has met with Catholic Charities responded to the audit and has
met with them and they promised to clean up their uh that they'll fix the problem along with our human services people would work with them to to make sure this doesn't happen in the future. We I say this and I'm only saying it that
we're going to give them enough uh time to get their act together, but we're not they're on a short leash. And I would ask our commissioners if this does not happen that they would uh act and because we have a viable organization that's willing to do this job, get that
money out on the streets where someone the families may need it, uh individuals may need it to stay in their homes so they're not on the street. So I just point this out here. Why making a comment on this resolution? Here we are given another contract or another piece
or resubmission. I rather I rather would like to hold up anything until they prove themselves on this incident. And I can go on with many other examples and I have no bias against Catholic Charities. I hope they fix themselves and they'll
be a partner in the future, but right now it would be kind of be nice to kind of stop doing contracts with them until they figure this one out. All right. So, I'm not going to get I just kind of hope in the future we have nothing with them until the director says, "All right,
they cleaned up their act or they haven't cleaned up their act." So, um, uh, 456 with the Bayata nurses and elderly. This is, this is something we is is growing and this county are, this board
should consider even more resources for this cause even uh because we have uh a lot of elderly out there that need help, need services provided for them. um just and they've earned it. So, we're making
changes and I see two resolutions. I I just say that maybe we should look to even look at more money for this cause because the need is ever present and increasing. So, that's uh that's 23 and 24. I won't comment on Maple Avenues. Uh
there are other structures in this county that that that have issues. You don't if you don't have the resources or money at the time because you have a a budget or constraint, you can't act you you rank. And as they as the engineering ranks those projects, some get worse,
some they don't get better. But in this county and every county in the state of New Jersey, probably every county in the uh every state in this country has projects and has roadways and and coverts that need repair, but you only
have so much money to to do it. It's a shame that we have to do an emergency act to correct this. There are other things that have been identified in this county that need to be tackled yet, but you don't you have limited dollars to do it and and so we will tackle as we go.
Hopefully catch them before their emergencies. But the bottom line is that some you can't be everywhere. You can't figure everything out. You can't anticipate uh things deteriorating quicker or less quick. Um you just you you guess and you decide. And a perfect
example is a 95 a roadway. when people inspect there's we ride on roads all the time that that really if you you looked at it and you actually see what the damage is you may not be riding on that road. Uh so we we we do the best we can we patch things the best we can we fix
things when we can and we have the money. So uh to say to point this out there, you know this this failure we we have to act now and we are. So um uh 37 the um
37 38 all the you the occupational training I I would say the director and this commission and this includes 39 40 44 that we we're going to build the school in addition to the school for occupational training and the thing is
and this is what I worry about is that yeah we'll build it but how how we got to make sure that this is run right and does exactly what it's intended to why we're spending the money to build this thing to help our people get a trade.
And I I right now and I have little we have little faith of our our local college to pull this off. I have a lot of faith in the CC Tech. I'm glad it's being built, but there but the adult programs um are not are not under the
domain. And I I I would just say that this we have a lot at stake. This commission has a lot of state for investment in this building. I would hope we actually take the next step and see what's not just a building being built, but a program being built that's worth it. You notice all these things
where they're being sent everywhere but Cumberland County and and I rather down the road that they're sending to Cumberland County as a as a uh as this is a great place to get people trained and sent. Well, I don't have a lot of faith in the uh in our college to pull
that off. So now I know there's new a new president and I'm glad we have a a board of directors person here and they hear me but at least two or three of at least two of our commissioners I say director be appointed to oversee this or at least view it with the with the
working with the board to make sure this is a success in the long run. I heard the new president is actually really good and this is something well if he needs support at least we're there to help. All right, let's bring it back for what they need. Um
the um these this is uh this is 47. This is the juvenile uh uh justice money. We every year we get money for this and uh uh we take it we put it in our budget.
I I find out that we have overlapping programs that actually can work well together again for training and skills and a trade which we need people trained. I I I hope they would be talking uh that this money's actually put the work to to tie in with our other
program that we're starting. Um instead of just I guess what they do always do. So um All right. And this is And also 486 uh number 53. 486 is a no. I I I
wouldn't and I I guess I should bite my tongue. CFG, a lot of our lawsuits were born out of jail. They're born because we didn't have good medical advice. Now, I know the business administrator really tried hard to find an alternative to this uh to this organization. I know you went
above and beyond to find somebody. But here we are again, the same fruit and and you ask why we're going to this this bigger opportunity I'm going to get to is just because of this the cost of the medical provider. We're actually we're actually have to hire someone to look
over their shoulders to do their job. that you know insane that is and and the the bottom line if they would have done their job during our crisis a lot of the lawsuits that came out of it wouldn't have come out of it because they all they did is have to do their job and here we are again again they're the best
alternative there is cuz you've checked all over to find someone but it just gs me to to uh um to to bring them in and then have hire someone over top of them to make sure they do their job. So, um,
and and here's uh 61. Um, this is this is the Department of Environmental Protection. We have the Green Street Infrastructure Mapping. We have no MIS uh mapping or uh I hope I say that right. GIS, sorry about that.
department. We have one individual. I mean, today's day and age, if we and I know the city of Ireland has done it because they have the polls all over the place, but here's where it would be a shortcut for all our townships if we actually have a department that their
job is continuously create this. I heard years ago the sheriff's department had a top-of-the-line program we gave them. And the bottom line is that the uh the GIS system that was developed cuz it layers on top of layers and if you screw up one, you screw up every layer after
that. It was it was couldn't be used. So we did what we did we did the right thing but we didn't have it. We we didn't put the information in right. So everything in this county should be should be mapped and and we should know
where every little thing is. every pipe, every pole, whatever laid out. So when it comes to something like this, it's ready to go. We know when we do farmland preservation, it's mapped. So I kind of say this that this board that forget the
days of one individual. We actually pay and I'll we pay people to do our GIS. Well, that's halfhazard. They're doing their piece. They're doing their piece. better to have our own department doing the piece for the county and all our departments can rely on them that
information put in uh uh uh and it could be anything from our people where we're at what they do all the way to the pools to the the power the anything that uh could be put on the where our storm water drains are which is what these
guys are asking for. uh it would help our townships because we would do the the uh the the huge burden. We will pull the the uh the biggest burden to get this going. It's a it's needed and it's time to do it. It's it's no longer halfhazard. It's not this this shows it
right here. Um and just please come out for the uh our our the vigil going to be at the at the fairgrounds on August 31st. It's a it's actually a pretty moving program. So please anyone out there, please come out. If you have a relative that that's
you in your family, most people have some people in their family that face some of this, please come out because you actually uh it's a good thing to have um there are people around you can feel just what you've gone through. So, it's a it's a pretty neat program. So,
uh, and last, I guess to finish up, um, um, well, just the lawsuits that we're, uh, doing, this is, again, this is why you the jail. This is actually old lawsuits from our juvenile detention center, which probably been closed for 10 years.
I guess these are people that the state of New Jersey open the the uh open the box that after they've been paid after things have been settled that now of some law firm and I'm sorry council might say too well law firm and has come out of the woodwork and tracked these
people down and now we have a list of juveniles that may or may not have issues or been compensated uh that we have to deal with. Uh so that's why we got two uh such it's so many we have two law firms that got to tackle this to to
help us and if we this jail concept is it won't have this anymore. It wouldn't be ours in the future because it would be the responsibility of the authority to tackle this problem not us. So, um,
so I I'll just make since I, and I'll say this to the our board director, I'm I'm disappointed that we didn't have a presentation that Lena County had on the Candid County proposal. I know you guys have been working hard, but not all of us on this board have been part of that.
what I know and you've shared uh what I know and what I've seen the documents that we've come up with. Uh we tried this with Salem County and Salem County as the director said has changed the rules on us but it was basically the same concept and what this and I I asked
for information in the short run just so Mr. Asdo knows that in the short run we save $82,000 in the trips that we take up to Hudson County compared to what we're going to do in going to Camden. That's a short
run. That's that's our wear and tear on our people. That's that's the uh money we pay because we were had to go up there at midnight. We had to show up at midnight to pick up our inmate to bring them back to court. Now we go anytime,
but during the day. So our for our own people and their own uh sanity that they'd be working during day hours instead of going up they're driving at night on the turnpike to get up to Hudson County. very um in the and I'll
correct me administrative Kevin if uh Mr. Simeiato if I'm wrong but in the in the long run if this is built because it's concerned the bond that what are we going to be paying for the bond uh uh what is our overall cost where we going to go just just a conservative estimate
you said to me that we would save about 12% of what we're paying now when we go when we moved in this >> I To me that 12% I don't know the number. I asked what's the number? What's that add up to? You said it's how much the $50 million we're paying rough. I
>> mean you're you're looking you're looking at well that's off today's numbers. Not the numbers for when we move in. So that that percentage will grow. >> That percentage will grow because we're we're good what four or five years out.
So, so just think of the savings on that amount of money when we get in there and not mention that this 80 was this Mr. part was this money this 81 $82,000 that was over what period of time is that a weekly thing a monthly thing
>> that was a year and it was only salary only had nothing on >> vehicles had nothing to do with gas had nothing to do with insurance it was just salary that 80 something year is it three trips three trips a
week back and forth um for one year. >> So 82,000 plus. You told me that there's $300,000 we pay on the vehicles and all that other thing. That's the saves cuz we won't probably not to replace the vehicles as often or fix the the things
that break down. So um the cost. So that's the short run. I don't know the intermediate time frame, the medium though. But uh there's got to be a savings somewhere also. And and we do have you it was said that we have no power. We do have a check, don't we? So,
we're one of three, possibly four or five. >> We're basically owners. >> We're owners. >> We're basically owners. >> And that, see, that's key because one of the things I I did not want to see is a shared service agreement, which we've been I stood on this committee 5 years
ago or four years ago and oh, any jail take us. Oh, no problem. We could share. We had a shared service agreement in LA County, Salem County, Gloucester County, Boland County, and do you know where our prisoners are? Hudson County. So that's how good a shared service agreement is.
U S County promised promised promised that they would take remmits. How many is there? How many is there? Four inmates they took after they had sex. >> They had six pleading with us to please stay with them. Be part of what they're doing. I'm not a big fan of canon. Just
what you just need to say. I I'm very weary of Camden and the director knows how how I phrase it to him about Camden, but the bottom line is that everything they've done is what we kind of asked for with Salem County and and we we we
do not want to see the and you I know the Mr. Hawk doesn't want to see all these lawsuits. The goal is to get them off our books and and he'll be sued. We'll be sued like normal, but we're not going to be sued. they're going to be sued and and and they have every reason to concentrate on because they got one
thing to do. Run a good sound jail, uh, whatever the term is now, but jail, that's their job. We have many other things to worry about and sometimes other boards that have forgotten about our jail. We try not to. We've done a
lot with them to get our jail up to snuff, but you're starting. It's tough. It's tough when it was ignored for so long, but we've done come a long way. We're not going to be out of the jail business. We're never going to be out of the jail business, but at least this is a positive step to get us where we're
we're better off for our our people and tax dollars for our people by combining with all these other counties and sharing services and being a partner with them. Is Elena County going to join? >> It looks good.
>> Right now, we're not sure. >> All right. have a final answer. >> Just so you know, that's what they they're debating and uh and um all right. Thank you. >> I just want to confirm that your no
votes are resolutions 452, which is number 19 and 486. >> Yes. All right. >> Do I have a motion and a second to vote by consent agenda on resolutions 2025-434 through 2025- 559? So
>> move second. >> Commissioner Alrech. >> Yes. What was noted? >> Commissioner Romero. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Loads. >> My vote is yes. >> Commissioner Taylor. >> Yes. >> And you're abstaining to 496.
>> Correct. Deputy Director Marshon. >> Yes. >> Director. >> Yes. >> Do I have a motion and second to adopt resolutions 2025-434 through 2025-519 by consent? So >> move. >> Second.
>> Commissioner Albrech. >> Yes. >> And no to 452 and 454. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Romero. >> Yes. >> Commissioner Lo. >> Yes. Commissioner Taylor. >> Yes. >> Deputy Director Marshaw. >> Yes. >> Director Sar. Yes.
>> Do I have a motion and second to accept the treasur's report as given? >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Do I have a motion and second for authorizing payment of all salaries and wages? >> I'll make the motion. >> Second. >> All in favor?
>> Do I have a motion and second to open public comment new business? Motion to open the public portion on new business. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I >> I. Anyone from the public like to step forward and talk on new business?
Your name and uh state your name and location on the Sandy Aso Upper Deerfield Township. Um it's not new business, but it's unfinished business. Um, I know the CFO
um answered a lot of my some of my questions with some cut and paste answers. Um, my question, you know, about the budget. However, there are still some unanswered questions that he hasn't provided to me. I just wondered when I'll see those.
Um, I think Doug answered my next question as to why there were two separate resolutions for the the um juvenile litigations and it's just because there's so many. That's that's it. And third, um,
when this board settled with the correction officers, um, can you tell me what line item budget the, uh, $10,000 stipens to each of the correctional officers were paid? What line item budget that came out of?
Was it the CO money or was it out of our regular budget? And, uh, why were the retirees left out of that? Thank you. Anyone else? >> Good evening. >> Good evening.
>> John Fugle, 77 Ailla Drive. Um I also um run a company, Life Worth Living at 6 South Law Street. And on Thursday when I do payroll, I'll be paying 17 people that's employed to me at that company. We also run Briston Print at 38 Atlantic
Street and we employ four people. So tonight I'm standing up in front of y'all as a concerned citizen, as a business owner, as a home owner um who decided to invest his money in Cumberland County. I could have lived
anywhere in the world. I decided to come here and I served here this past Friday. We just lost another young another young man in Millville. I know we about to sit back and we watching the beautiful golf course being built over there and we want to attract
new business. We want the out of town is the frequent Cumberland County and everywhere I go I sell where I live cuz I believe in this place. I invest here but a lot of times I feel like where I live don't invest in what I do and it's a smack in the face.
Smack in the face the hardest the hardest smacks. I was just not reappointed on the recreation board and I took it kind of personal at the beginning but then I realized it's gonna free up some time for me. This past weekend we participated in our fifth annual bikes
up gun down recreational riding activity for ATVs. Nobody else is doing that in the state of New Jersey. I bankroll that every year without no money from no county entity or no private entity every single year. This weekend we're going to do another
event at 8:30 Landis Avenue and I bank roll I help bankroll that but I don't make those announcements. This past summer we had our second year over at Violent where we did the camp with Mr. Porter. I bankroll that and I
make no announcements. We just been doing the work. Our hashtag is we better together. Our other hashtag is do the work. I stand on that. That's what I believe. So when I emailed one of y'all, when I called one of y'all, it's not
because we friends. It's cuz I use my electoral process. I voted. I believe y'all the best. Y'all the best people for the job. Y'all in the position. And when you decide to govern us here in Cumber County, you don't just get to govern the Republicans or the Democrats.
You got to govern all of us cuz we put y'all here. It ain't about favoritism or let me do this for my buddy. I believe in an America where resumes count. I sent you my resume, didn't I? Mr.
Romero, resumes count. I line my resume up against any bodies in this county that do the work that I do and I run laps around them. Stop looking past some of your greatest assets. I go to Ysack meetings, right, Melissa? >> I'm sitting in there and it's all about
you said something very important. And I loved it. You said, "Let's add more money to these causes because we need it. It's a presence that's needed for the bay out of nursing. Let's add money to program cuz we know kids dying. I've been running a fair program with
the prosecutor for the last four years, a federal grant that's recognized and OJ uh uh website right now for the country. A come county program is on the front lines of doing the work and that's a program that's been anchored by me and
we keep looking past what we doing here. I just left Wilmington, Delaware because I've been there the last two days cuz the Wilmington school system is buying a program that we created right here. But our program wrapped up in October and
nobody talked about finding no funding to keep it going here. And we was contracted to work with the 50 most at risk over the last four years. We done worked with over 117 and we got real impacts. My prosecutor stood up here last month
at this meeting and rid the statistics. Tracy Swan just sat in the meeting with us at our youth meeting and read them off again right because we doing the work. Last thing I want to say is this. I wrote this down. You win elections.
you win elections. Now, what I'm asking this bill to do is now I'm asking y'all to to grow and push progress and development. Push support to people that's really doing the work and not your buddies, not
people that look good on the board. Look at the resumes because we have limited resources. Use the resources that we have here. And those resources are the good people like me that's doing the work that a lot of people don't want to do.
Stop looking past those individuals. And I can name a list of them. Let's stop rocking for any promises and flashbacks of what we used to do and let's start seeing the forest from the trees and we start attacking the future with real plans. We got things that have worked. I'm
going to wrap up in a few seconds. Right now our youth is in trouble right now. about to do a candle light tomorrow for a 20-year-old that got murdered on Friday at 6:00 in the evening on main on the main street in Millville.
Three young men have been arrested from the city of Boron that I put my hands on probably for two years, but they faded away. They stopped doing the program. They stopped doing the school and our community looked away from. I'm going to put a post on Facebook today that probably been shared by 70 times out of
over 300 comments because we keep looking away. The next meeting I'm going to be here and I'll be here with a group of those kids and they going to be asking for help. Well, listen, keep helping. I appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you. Last thing I want to say is this. I believe in this world. Don't none of y'all got to be my friends. But we going to work together because at the end of the day, we all call company county home. And if we going what's the best in the best light of our county, we
collectively got to do the work. Sit down and have the uncomfortable conversation, but let's do the work. We don't have to reflect what's happening on the national level. We don't have to be petty like Washington. This Cumberland County, I can reach out
and touch my neighbors. I can reach out a call with a law, a email. Let's not adopt everything that's happening on the national level to the point where we're not getting anything done. Thanks for listening. >> Thank you, >> Mr.
I want you to know that I do appreciate the things you do for kids out there and you I'm always commenting on your when you're going out there and running basketball programs and playing with the kids and I want you to know that I do
appreciate all that and appreciate my heart. Good evening. Yolanda Garcia Baliki and I live in Milville. Um, I just wanted to compliment the board. I had the occasion of attending several of the festivals here in Cumberland County and I took
notice of how beautiful the Cumberland County Fairgrounds look and the support that the county has given to that endeavor. We are the poorest county in New Jersey, but there is a lot of um recreation entertainment that's available to our different cultures. Especially I had the occasion of
attending many of the festivals from the Junth festival here in Bridton to the kite festival at the Cland County Fairgrounds to the um Fiesta Btoya in Landis Park to the Fiesta Bena here in Milville and I was pleased to see the
commissioners come out and participate. I'm an immigration attorney, so I love different cultures, studying different cultures, supporting members of different communities. And it really lifted my heart to see the Puerto Rican community, of which I am one, uh, supported and celebrated. And I just wanted to say thank you to the
commissioner, thank you to the sheriff's department, law enforcement that provided a safe environment for our youth and our different cultures and family members to be able to enjoy themselves. Thank you. >> Thank you. Can I hand something out to you guys real quick? Like step into your room?
>> No, it's not. >> Yes. >> I only have like three for each. >> I know what it is. >> All right. Can I go? Okay. >> You're okay. Um, good evening, commissioners. Daniel Carol Vinland.
It was brought to my attention that my reappoint was up as trustee for the board of RCSJ this past June. Thank you for those of you who supported me in my reappoint to this pre prestigious position in our county. I absolutely
love being a part of this board. It allows me to bring my expertise as an effective educator to the table. I know that a few of you and some others here who have who question my validity of this position and have questioned as
to why I don't come to these meetings to report what's happening at RS RCSJ as you know I answer to my lison and or advise her of ideas or occurrences that need more direction from the commissioners I was unaware that a board
member as a board member I had to come and tell what I'm doing on board. Quite frankly, my feelings were hurt and my qualifications were undermined by those who think I'm not doing my job or questioning my authority in this seat.
With that said, here's what's happening at the college in the last few meetings. Dr. Keeling, who was our president, has retired. His new seat is with Rowan University, which allows him to have a more part-time position to oversee the
new non-traditional route as a college pathway. And what that is is if you're unaware of this pathway, Cumberland secondary schools as well as the tech have CTE divisions and they have signed
up to participate in the education to further what is taught in the high school to the colleges. Our local manufacturers have signed on board to assist in upgrading skills of workers as well. What this all means is that this
new innovative pathway will allow incoming students to sharpen their skills as well as the um ongoing employees to allow for a successful work environment with success in industry and to increase salaries and upward
mobility. So this is Dr. Hugh's legacy that he will work on behalf of Rowan University as the college of the university to strengthen our colleges. It follows the traditional pathway as in the steps to
achieving the the students goals. You'll see that in that on the one side of that paper um how this works. It looks like a fidget type of gadget and it's got the steps where you start at high school and
you can go all the way up to your masters. The next thing, the next item I'd like to tell you about is who is our interim president while searching countyw or countrywide for a new president, Dr. Brendan Rickerts. Dr.
Rickards has been the provost and was the vice president of RCSJ. I've also had ample opportunity to know Dr. Rickards as head of academic and student services. I've been appointed as lead trustee to this committee.
Continuing as to what else is new, we have finally found a representative of Cumberland County for the vacated chair by Reverend Dunkkins. Thank you to all the commissioners for filling the seat with Jodie Trevolini. She brings great expertise to um in business along with
Greg Laggolo who was our other trustee for Cumberland County. I provided a picture of all three of us with our lison and Jean Concordia trustee chair that's on the flip side of that page. I also wanted to let you know that I attended the president's award ceremony,
Cumberland County Campus Educational Foundation scholarship, scholarship reception, and Cumberland campus graduation. Some of you may wonder what the Cumberland County Campus Education Foundation is. This is a nonprofit organization that oversees the
Cumberland County Campus Scholarship Program, which this year gave out monies to over 200 recipients from our county to assist them. Also, as trustee, I tried to invite myself on our campus.
I'm part of the one college, one book program. This is a partnership with CCEF. There's a panel of people from the community who bring um opinions of fictional books that they are reading by
them reading for the new read that the entire college and community can participate in. This panel then votes on the book and each p that each person likes with a discussion. Once a book is selected, we invite the author of this
book to the college for a discussion with students and the uh and the students of the college. Now that I'm retired, I plan on working together with our cluster sister college to work and serve both colleges as one singular
entity. If you have questions, I would love to schedule a time to go over it with you. Thank you very much and have a lovely evening. >> Thank you. Good evening, commissioners. My name is Melie Vzari. I'm the founder of Fiesta
Borenya and CEO of Global Media Society Public Relations Network. First and foremost, I want to sincerely thank you all for your support and presence during the historic FTA celebration this past
um August 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. It was truly an honor to welcome so many of you uh to the to the um fairgrounds on such a special occasion, especially while Telmundo was on site covering the
cultural significance of our event. Your um visits and engagement throughout the weekend meant a great deal to us and my team and to the community we serve. As you all know, this was our first year
organizing an event of this magnitude, and I humbly acknowledge that we are still growing and learning. I don't know all the standards or procedures or expectations, but I've led this with honesty, transparency, and my whole
heart. um the commissioners that were present um that were able to attend during the ceremony witnessed the um ribbon cutting, the flag raising and heard my daughter sing the national anthem um in
English and labory in Spanish um that was also featured on Demundo. A local pastor led us in a heartfelt prayer to begin the festivities and it was a powerful moment for our community. Um,
that being said, uh, I would like to address a matter of concern. Um only 4 days after uh I was disheartening disheartened to hear that a commissioner in this room took to the airwaves on
92.9 FM as a guest um that was broadcasted from the very station where I host my show to openly and unconstructively criticized Fiesta Boring Kenya questioning my integrity
the legitimacy of how grant funding was obtained, paperwork involved, and even questioned my ability to speak Spanish. So, these public comments not only put my credibility into question, but also misrepresented the intentions and
integrity of this event. I reached out um as my phone was flooded with calls um who callers who were hearing this um interview and um being that I have a public relations network with over
200,000 uh followers aside from social media. Um so believe me when I tell you I find out things quickly. Um um so in order to clear my name in the festival um I ask you today uh Miss
Commissioner L Vasquez, would you like to share the same questions and comments publicly here now that I am present because I did not get an opportunity um to do so and clear my name, credibility or the festival at that
time. Um and I I um last thing that I want to say is um uh to this board um I I respectfully ask
what is the policy regarding a sitting commissioner going on public airwaves to make misleading and potentially defamatory statements about private citizen in a public event without first um factchecking or having a conversation
with me which I will openly answer any questions that you would have um at any point but you went to the airwaves um with this so it's it's out in the public so I would like to ask if you
have any questions that you would like to address I am here >> before anything happens I would like to make a slight correction on she is not a commissioner >> okay I'm in the commission Absolutely. I apologize. >> No, I just wanted to clarify that. Yes,
we we are the commissioner. He is not a commissioner. >> I Yeah, I apologize. >> Yes. Yes, I am in the commissioner's meeting, so I apologize that I addressed it that way. >> Let me clarify that. >> Yes. Yes, sir. Thank you. Um
>> Um So, Miss Vasquez, I Any comments that you would like to make? I would gladly. >> Excuse me. Excuse me. Just Just a second. Not >> you. Go ahead. Say what you want to say. >> I I don't think this is the forum. So that is not
close to that public and then whatever comments you make. >> Yes. The thing is now wait now I want you to understand cuz I don't want you to think you're getting blown off. Okay. >> Okay. >> We we can't at the meeting have a back and forth >> dialogue. Okay. Correct. So you you
state that uh I would I would rather that the two of you get together. Okay. Uh after the meeting. >> Yes. >> And and speak. I don't have a problem with that. To do this in open session and things get said. >> I don't think that'd be well. >> Okay.
>> For everybody. Yes. >> And I'm just trying to think of everybody. >> Got you. >> Right. So, uh is there anything else that you would like to say? >> No. The only other thing is that I did um call and invite Miss Vasquez back on the air and um she did not accept the
invitation. So I don't know how else to proceed with this. >> Well, we'll we'll get back to you on that if you allow that. >> Yes, sir. >> Director M. Rosier, she's made a statement that that's fine that so you've done what you wanted to say. Now
I directors asked that you meet personally to figure you know to talk about what you if that's what you really want is to understand and I'm sure I'm assuming that's what you really want to know like you just want to figure it out not a public forum right now but you
have other resources you have other strategies too. I I I I I did not want any kind of um negative u publicity when it comes to this. And this is something that was again, you know, on on the on
the radio. Um I reached out to Miss uh Vasquez to come back to kind of answer any questions because that's all it is. If there's questions, I would like to, >> you know, answer them. That's on clear the air, right? Because people are healing. So now they're like, "Wait a
minute." So now there's it's exactly. So I just want to make sure first of all thank you guys for all of your support and if you have any questions I am here and will gladly um answer any questions. >> Okay. Thank you very much. We appreciate
it. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Is there anyone else that would like to get up and speak on any new business? >> Commissioner director. This is General Weber. Can you hear me?
>> Yes, we can. Madame prosecutor, >> um I want to speak on uh Commissioner Albert's comments with respect to number 47 resolution 2025480. It was a resolution to um acknowledge
the application and all authorized execution of a grant agreement with the DAC for the juvenile detention alternatives and innovation book funding. I want to clarify that that is the funding that we use for the
probation enrichment and transportation program. We call it the PE program. Um we get this money every year. We get $60,000 because we participate. We do that. We do another $60,000 because we um meet all of our goals and
qualify for innovation funding. We've been doing the probation and enrichment transportation program for 5 10 years now. You would ask why would you do that with innovation funding? That that funding goes to the probation
orientation for probation so they have they can successfully probation. It goes to the life skills for probation so that they can get the skills that they need to reaffend repeatably. And it also goes for enrichment if they qualify and use
all of their methods for them to um be able to go on trips. It also goes for the college where systems are surrounding our regional area and we also pay them for um vocational training opportunities for places um that you
know do automated and things of that nature. >> So it's a very important program. We don't want our vocational to be in it for 10 years. I accept the challenge to do other innovative programs that are in line with some of
the other educational things that we've announced. But much like what John Cooper said, unless we get another funding source, meaning unless the county comes up with money to do that, we have not been successful in transitioning that program to provide
that funding. So I accept the challenge, but I also challenge the commissioners to know that spending money on prevention and intervention is much more um economical than spending the money that we spend to
detain the children to graduate into very serious crimes. So I accept the challenge to be innovative to be aligned with the programming but I also challenge all of the commissioners to small amounts of money to continue program.
[Music] Thank you, Madam President. M I I was just pointing out that there are other there may be other programs that are kind of not that it's kind of similar that we also could take you to that next level that we that we are
approved or approved. So if you just reach out and maybe there's these kids, not only you get them here, but you can get them two steps ahead uh with so it could have the additional I know you're I know you're always open to that. So that was the point I was trying to make.
There are other things. So all right. Thanks. Thank you. >> Okay. Uh I guess um >> Melissa Niles, department head for human services. I live in V. Just a point of information. So, this JDAI funding um
the past year or so, it's probably been two years, we worked really hard to try to get Salem County, uh because they have a vocational program for their youth and it's very good. Um so, we had tried to get them to uh also provide
that service for our Cumberland County youth and we got very close to almost making it happen and then it just then it went silent. But so I agree and I just want you to know that we're on the same page. We just need an opportunity. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay.
>> Thank you. >> Good evening again. It's Nancy Richway from Upper Deerfield and Fairfield Townships. You had something new that happened here this evening and I'd like to thank you.
And I have another one walking up here. >> You can stay right here. That's what I want to talk about. I have I have two gentlemen here that have take the oath to serve and protect And this evening we've had one standing
up here every time you have public comment. So I just would like to thank them for protecting me from you because I'm sure you're not doing anything that you need protection from from us.
We get searched when we come in the door. We sit here politely and listen to you. So, thank you for protecting me and I'm sure you'll walk me out to my car this evening. Thank you.
>> Anyone else would like to come forward? >> Can you? >> Yes, we can. >> Hello. Victor Bermuda, president Local 231. >> Hey, Victor. How are you? >> I just wanted All right. I just wanted
to address the board looking murder or sheriff service or whatever that's going to be called. I mean really I don't have too many questions as the information is still being put together.
So only ask for a transparency and be included with possibly meeting with you guys just to get out what it is that we may be looking for. It's no secret uh to keep employment as you know come county
suffers from the worst employment rates in in New Jersey and um you know we're trying to change those benchmarks and retain employment within the county. Uh, also as far as um the questioning for
the contract, I think it was Miss Patito. Uh, I would up the PDA231, which is a private bargaining unit. We do not belong to the county. We belong to any other agency. We had a right to
negotiate on those terms and were within the guidelines and laws allowed to do what was done. As far as the 10% of the 10,000 stipen, that was a very low percentage because we were owed 5 to 6
years worth of bad pay spread over five to six years. That was a very low number to save the taxpayer dollars. As far as retire retirees that is currently in litigation that we cannot comment on nor can the county
litigation even though I may think it's scriptures. Uh with that I definitely thank the commissioners for trying to find resolutions to pass problems that we we all are familiar with. went through a lot of lawsuits,
lost a lot of good officers and uh putting this problem in that. But I do see you guys are making a great effort to uh make resolutions to change and uh director Sorrow and all those that have reached out to me. I appreciate you guys
time and you know just keep us in the loop and I appreciate you. >> Thank you. Director, I just want you to uh realize that you will uh the uh corrections officers will be involved uh
in a lot of the negotiations where we're just starting. This thing is just the beginning. Uh you know, it's a shame that we had a setback when it came to Salem and Gloucester and it's more or less like we're starting over. But it it more but it's more or less the same uh
concept with the law that the state of New Jersey had passed. So we want you to know that nothing else will change on that. But we we feel that we have a better partner now. Okay. We just want to let you know that. >> Thank you. >> All right. >> Thank you.
>> All right. Is there anybody else that would like to speak? >> Seeing none. >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Commissioner reports. >> Okay. Commissioner reports. Commissioner
Romero, would you like to >> No, I just uh wanted to bring out that I was at the event uh from Kenya and was I to finish in this note. Uh but uh it wasn't very
successful. I enjoyed being there. It's a shame that we couldn't dance uh Jolanda. Uh but I know you were trying out there. Uh we love to see improvement uh to the fair grounds
for a dancing area in front of the stage because it's tough to >> dance in the grass. >> Yeah, you could have somebody could break an ankle. So especially if Jolanda is dancing. So uh you know but I enjoyed being there. I I went there for an hour
and I stood from 12 to almost 9:00 at night and uh it was very successful. The music was great and not just good, it was great. So, I enjoyed being there. You know, we need more events like this because we it's a family event and
families get together to do those events and we need to spend more time with our families and and our kids. So, you know, it it's good. I would like to see other people involved in uh other cultures
uh and and I just hope we could work together and uh and I'm looking forward the next event next year. So, thank you very much for uh for allowing this. >> Thank you, director. I'd like to um take
this opportunity to personally thank John Fukqua for all he has contributed to the recreation committee. His time was well served. He was a dedicated participant and we truly appreciate all that you've brought to the table and
everything you've done. It it is a tragedy to lose another youth in Millville and um there's just you know it's a shame it's happening in every
town and every county. Um and I and I don't know what the solution is but I I do believe keeping our youth active and engaged is a is a great way to to prevent some of this stuff that's going on.
Secondly, I would like to speak about um the memory cafe that's going to take place on August 27th, 12 to 2 at the Parish of All Saints Church Community Center. It's um it's a program for
individuals with dementia. So, uh if you have someone that has dementia or you are a caregiver, please reserve a spot. call the Office of Aging and Disability. It it's it's going to be a very informational program and it's well
worth your while to attend. Thank you. >> Deputy Director Arthur. >> So, I do want to touch on what I consider to be the most important two items that were on our agenda here today regarding the jail. So, I do understand that some people are apprehensive uh
regarding Camden, but I do want to say that I believe we've done a very thorough job in investigating what was available to us. Now, in the long term, there will be a regional jail. That's probably five or six years out. In the short term, we are going to have a partnership with Camden where they will
be taking a large number of our prisoners. And that's very important for a number of reasons. As was somewhat discussed here, currently we have a large number of prisoners up in Hudson County that's very difficult to get to and from. It's very difficult to get these inmates into court. It's very difficult for inmates to see their
attorneys and to get to the court system. Now, having these inmates much closer when they eventually get moved over there in the near future, this should not only save us money, as was discussed, but this should also save us a lot of time getting inmates to the
jail, getting inmates um processed through the judicial system. Hopefully, obviously, the faster we can get them in, the faster we can get their cases heard, the quicker we can reduce our jail population. That in of itself would
be will be a very large savings from now before the jail is even built. So, I did want to just touch on that and make sure that everybody understood that. As far as other things go, it's been a busy month, a lot of activities. National Night Out was a beautiful night. Met with a lot of people, talked to a lot of people. It was a great time. and another
community event coming up personal with me. It's hopeful day. It's on September 6th, Amish Market. Hope to see everybody there. Thank you. >> Thank you, Deputy Director, Commissioner Victoria L. >> Thank you. >> How to worry you caught me by surprise.
>> I do that once in a while. >> Yeah. Well, you're full of surprises, Director. Uh first and foremost, much like Commissioner Marawn, uh I do want to touch on our our rehabilitation re-entry center, aka the jail. Uh we sit here tonight almost 5
years to the day when the previous administration capped the site on July 14th, 2020 of the initial jail project, reconstruction project. And the comment was made that, you know, we're feeding the beast and two, the victor goes to
spoils. And I have to say that in my three-year tenure on this board and the five years that I've been paying very close attention from being out on that job site when they cap the site that day on July 14th to when we made this decision to move forward with Camden, I've been paying very close attention to
all of the ideas that have been floated. um all of the conversations that have gone on and the partnerships and and um the endeavors and the projects that we have tried to look at to solve our problem because right now the only beast that I see getting fed is are the
lawyers who are representing all of the lawsuits that are coming out of trying to operate in a very old and antiquated and um crumbling facility that we have here in Cumberland County. And so something needs to be done and right now there is no victor. Um, right now we
need to find a solution and we have gone through many different avenues to find one. Nobody went right to Camden and because you're right, Camden's repres rep uh reputation precedes itself, right? Um,
but we have had a really very good working relationship um with the things that they have uh offered to do in the interim while we are finding this solution. And so we truly have left no stone unturned in seeing what we can do
to solve this problem. And it is a problem that is being solved. And I'm I'm very much looking forward to this project taking off and taking flight. And I would ask that when it's a little bit more wellformed that we do make a public presentation for sure because transparency is absolutely first and
foremost um on my mind making sure that we convey to the public exactly what we're doing because we do work for you. Um, secondly, I want to thank um our jail director, uh, Director Albino, Melissa Niles, and I know there was a whole team working on putting together
the MAT funding. Um, and we finally had it on the agenda tonight to be voted on. Um, that's money that's coming into Cumberland County that's responsible for a whole lot of projects, which we talked about, I think, two months ago at one of our last meetings. So, I just want to thank all of you again publicly for
making it happen, getting it done. Um, and thank you to all the commissioners for voting on that and so that that program can move forward. Regarding our jails, there was a uh regarding our roads rather. There was a lot of discussion tonight uh about why we're addressing certain projects and
why we aren't and what what takes so long. Um, and it was mentioned a few times that yes, we are constantly waiting on state approval for things. Um, and it we're not nobody is showing any favoritism. It's when these projects come back and we can get it off the
ground and make it happen, we do. Uh, and right now, yes, Maple Avenue is really in disastrous and and dire straits and I'm glad that that is being prepared. Um, I have asked, and this is something that hopefully we're moving forward to um with our staff to put together a list of upcoming road
projects because I know myself as a resident in Cumberland County, the roads are on my mind all the time because we're on them all the time. And so what projects um are happening, what's up next, and kind of like what's in the queue. So pay um pay attention to that. That should be coming up very soon um as
to some more information about the projects that are underway um and what's happening on our road systems in Cumberland County. Uh there was some conversation about Catholic Charities and rural development and yes, Catholic Charities was experiencing some hardships recently.
Um, I know Melissa Niles, we had a lot of people that uh went in and and tried to help them kind of get back on their feet so that they could do the work that their mission sets out to do. Um, so I'm thankful to everybody who helped them do that and that they are now kind of back on track and doing the work that they
need to do. But I also want to thank World Development for their quick response in the interim as well. And a couple other thank yous. Um member uh Danielle Carol, our RCSJ board of trustees member, she's no longer here, but um Danielle, if you're listening out
there in the ether, thank you so much for your service to uh the RCSJ board of trustees. Um, and also John Fuklook. Uh, I want to thank you who also he John, I guess you had somewhere else to be because I know you're a busy guy, but if you're listening, uh, thank you very much for everything that you do, not
just for your service on the Cumberland County Recreation Commission, but all of the work that you continue to do in our county. Uh, I am very familiar with it. Uh, my son even went through one of your programs uh, with Mr. Porter, the Black and Latino Male Institute. So, I am incredibly familiar with the work that
you do. Um, you and I have had many conversations and I would absolutely nominate you to be on our committee again because you always work so hard in Cumberland County and you do the work. You're right, you do the work. Thank you for that and please don't stop because we need you here in Cumberland County.
Our students need you. I want to thank uh Don Bowen and Brian Curley on their new appointments and also um to Anthony Scott on his reappoint. And um I do want to bring up we have September
is uh national recovery month and August 31st is our international overdose awareness day and we do have our upcoming overdose awareness candle light vigil uh which I will be uh speaking at and attending. So thank you for that invitation. I was there last year and it
is a very moving thing uh very moving experience and I just would like to point out to all the commissioners I don't know if you're aware but since we do have international overdose awareness day and national recovery month um upon us uh recently Sebrook House closed uh
so Seabbrook House was responsible for having 200 beds for rehabilitation uh for drug and alcohol patients in Cumberland County that is no longer there. Uh, and I just would like to put that on your radar and that if we could begin to think of maybe some out of the
box ideas of how to address it because that is a huge hole in Cumberland County and something that concerns me a great deal. And lastly, Thomas Smith. Thomas Smith is the name of the youth that everybody has been referring to tonight that was shot and
killed on Friday. Thomas Smith was a member of the Milville High School class of 2023. Um he was he was not in my class but if you know anything about the Thunderbolt family you know that the students don't have to be in your class to be part of to be one of your students. Um it is a family there and he
was very close with many of my students um that I still keep in touch with and his story is incredibly tragic because yes he was off on a difficult path made some poor decisions um but recently he
was trying to get back on his feet. He actually he was coaching football team. He was going to attend college this fall. And there were even community leaders much like John Fukla in Millville who tried to rally those kids to get them together to as they say
squash their beef because there's a lot of beef out there on the streets. And sometimes if if our kids are going into jail and they're coming back out and they want to move on with their life, that that beef still exists and it's a real problem. And that's what you have here. That is exactly what you had here.
And this young man was shot in daylight on High Street. And that cannot happen. And that is why we need more of the programs that John was here talking tonight because it is so far reaching. It is a it is an epidemic here in Cumberland County. And I just would like to have a moment of silence if we could
for Mr. Smith. Anything else? Sorry, I just want to point out that as a commissioner, as a lazison, you don't uh those small battles you you see you
win and uh that maybe the departments oversee do every day. I'll mention Doss and Sher Golden, Louisa Dials, Sarah Williams, um the prosecutor. I just every once everything
happens for a reason and I right now, you know what season it is, the silly season, but uh knocking on doors, you run into people that uh that I ran into a person that basically I don't know why I went to this house, but I knocked on the door and actually had to go to the
back porch. And the person was standing there and all of a sudden just everything they were going through let me let me know. And of course I picked up the phone. I was like well just listen to the story. I picked up and
this is a couple county at its finest that they they knew they knew what to do. you know how to at least knew the steps that could be taken and each had I know they have their own little areas they concentrate on but each of them
took and said all right let's see what we can do what what we can tackle even to avoid the sitting next to a person at at a breakfast uh that helped pick up the ball an attorney that helped pick up the ball just because he asked uh for
help and uh this person is uh basically was defenseless and that's the worst. And uh but not defenseless when you have people that uh know what has to be done. And I I I appreciate this is only one
sliver of one piece, but I'm sure there are a lot of other people out there that go through this every day that you do that I know nothing about or the commissioners know nothing about. So I thank you and all the people that work up to you because they did a great job. Uh the it's not done yet, but it's 99%
there. Uh they took a person that was basically told that you have no power and they a lot of people rally to help that person. So I I'm being vague on purpose, but u it's it's nice to see and
uh so thank you. the uh the I again harp on that the all the things we've done at the fairgrounds and more to come is the events we've had the kite festival the the Puerto Rican festival uh event the
fair itself all these events that are only when they come there and the power the indie group the kite festival all these groups that saw see this facility and how special it could be and how it's improved because they've been there. U
allows us to do other things. Allows us to when they invest or they they actually rent the facility helps us establish eventually hopefully establish a park system uh a recreational park system that will help us. John Fuko
mentioned that you know us investing by people doing stuff here and having events and pay and allowing and renting our facilities because we have made them better. we could then do stuff and hopefully do more stuff. So, uh I I I
push that we eventually create a recreational park system, a rapid park system because it's needed in this county and it's needed for not just the youth but for whole families, a family unit that that that uh Commissioner Romero talks about. That's what we
should have facilities that cater to families and keeping them together and and giving them a place to go that's not doesn't cost a lot of money. They can just go popped out and just enjoy a picnic in our at a facility we have here. So, um
I urge everyone again to come out to the vigil. It's it's a movie experience and actually Commissioner of Williams has said that it's it's very u it's just come out and see experience for yourself and and the people it's important to support if you're not most families have
been affected by what's what's occurred. So um I like the idea that Commissioner Lo is about to see Brook House. I've been informed that that it's going to be tough to do but tough things are good to try for and we do need a facility not
just for uh for many reasons but our even our veterans need a facility. So, uh, uh, I always get questioned by some ventures, why do we send people outside the county to go somewhere? Well, okay. Maybe that could be to help them also.
Uh, okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Um, real quick, we had a lot of conversations today, so I'm going to try to wrap this up so we don't be a dead horse and say the same stuff over and over again. Um and that is uh we talked about roads, we talked about Maple
Avenue. Uh it happens fast only if we get answers from the state of New Jersey fast. We also we're working on uh Garden Road uh CR 674. This is something that was going on for the last 3 four years.
Okay. Finally, we got the okay to do the uh the roadway reconstruction project, drainage improvements and pavement upgrades, as well as update, safety, hardware, signage, and uh striping. They've been waiting. Why? Same thing.
All designs. It has to do with design. We give a design, they have to approve it. We can't do anything without their approval. So, a lot of times we'll take the heat on it. Well, you know, we're big people, you know, we take it, but that you just really have to realize we'd love to be able to knock these things out. And, you know, you talk
about money not being used, just sits there and it was it was uh put for these for these particular projects. Uh we're also working on CR 640 Fryberg Road uh over Cohaney River structure replacement. Designing permitting began
for this in 2019. six years ago. We're just starting to get this stuff through. I bring this stuff up just to let you know that that we are working on it. It's not the fault of our engineers, okay? They have it. We send it up. They
if the D or somebody else wants to tweak it, they send it back. We redo it, send it back up, and this goes on could be three, four times. All right? And we're still waiting. As I said, it's been over two three, four years on South Avenue. All right? and we call them personal.
You are putting a hardship on people that live there. Why don't you give us an answer? It's not important today or they have too many things to do. Uh, another thing that I'd like to bring up, we we talked
about we want people from our county to uh bid on our projects. So, I think it's going to be in October if I'm correct. Okay. There we're doing we're putting together a whole uh program and we're trying to do it two
ways. You can be in person people can come and we're going to put it on Zoom. So, this way if you can't make it, you can at least still see see the program. All right? It's not quite done yet. Uh it's almost done, but we plan to do this
in October. You'll hear from it, you know, a little later. And we're going to make sure that it's a it's going to be a blast out to all the the construction companies, the businesses in Cumberland County. We want the people in Cland County to do business with Cumberland
County because if it stays here, right, here's what happens. They buy their products here. They buy their supplies here. They hire the people here. What do they do when they hire the people? People go out and buy clothes here, right? They go to restaurants
here. So this is a a whole thing trying to get to people from K County and you can't be afraid to do this. It's not this big monster. All you have to do is learn the process. A lot of people do it. A lot of people make money but we want everybody to share in so we don't
want to have this one that was what Mount Warl was in Mount Warl. Why? Because we didn't get somebody from here to bid on the project. So, we're working on that and we're hoping to get that squared away. Uh, you know, I've gone to
events. I'm not going to I know it's starting to get late, so I'm not even going to go to all the events and and the meetings I've done. The thing is, thank you so much for coming out and taking the time. We need you to come here. Uh, one one last thing because it was brought up a couple times and that
is the Catholic Church. All right, cuz I have to make a comment about it. Did they have trouble? Yes, they did. Did they have trouble personnel? Yes, they did. Right. They lost a couple personnel. Couple people got sick. One person was in a hospital. Does it happen? Yes, it did. Yes, it does.
Happened to my own business. Had a contract. Had to go on a job site. Lost a couple people. They didn't want to hear it. Right. We gave him a second chance. Kevin and I talked to them personally. We were very frank with them. We
explained to them what we expected and they promised us they would do it. And that's what I did. And I took them at their word. And I believe Melissa, I think they're doing a fine job right now. I think they they are now getting a lot of stuff out. We have a lot of uh information. We have a lot of people.
Okay. And now they're doing their job. Sometimes you need to give somebody a second chance. And that's what I believed. And that's what we did. And you know what? They're performing. They're doing what they said they were going to do. And I'm happy for
that. Right. Everybody deserves that. So that being said, since there's nothing else, I do I believe we have very short executive session intended to be taken. So uh madam clerk if you could >> resolution 2025-520 resolution providing for a meeting not
open to the public in accordance with the provisions of the New Jersey Senator Biden and Bear open public meeting act NJSA 104-12 matters relating to litigation negotiations and the attorney client privilege matters relating to the employment relationship do I have a motion
>> move second >> commissioner Alrech >> yes >> yes >> yes Taylor Yes, deputy director. >> Yes, director. >> Yes, >> there's nothing any action.
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