on and they're willing to do right. So just uh you don't have to read the second one is to saying and the conditions and the order of conditions uh 12 and 13 it's about them they had they had to post a bond
and have two years for it to glow. Do we want to read all that or No, that's what I'm saying. Just say and and the the relevant conditions uh items 12 and 13 in the order of conditions. We good. All right. Whenever you
just give me a wave when you're ready. Good evening. Welcome to the Danvers Conservation Commission meeting for July 24th, 2025. We as a commission operate under the Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 131, Section 40, the Wetlands
Protection Act, in chapter 26 of the Town of Danver's general bylaws, the Wetlands Protection bylaw. After each applicant presents his or her request and the board has had time to ask questions and discuss the project, we will accept questions from the audience. Because this is a public meeting, it is
required by law that you give your name and your address before you speak. Although we may disagree on the issues raised, all persons present during this meeting are expected to be civil to all of the meeting attendees. This includes members of the commission, staff, abutters, concerned citizens, property
owners, and project applicants. We also request that you confine your questions to the project and only as it pertains to the wetlands act. We cannot handle nor do we have jurisdiction over matters such as noise or traffic. All problems not related to the wetlands
protection act and the town of Danver's wetlands protection bylaw must be taken up with the other appropriate boards. Uh first order of business will be a roll call. Peter Wilson is present. Lorraine Drapek present. Mary height present.
Michael Splain. Michael's not here. So we do have a quorum with three members present. Um, first order of business is 7 Dodie A check-in in a What was this? A um, that's it. Just a check in. There's no
the DCC. That was that was one of our things. It's not a typical number. It's not a DOT number. Uh, okay. So, we we had a site visit out there last week, Grant. Is there is there any discussion? I mean, we saw what we'd like to see. We saw that the
floats were removed and I guess I just have a quick question. Is the project complete? Since we since we've been out there, the the only work that's left is not under the commission's jurisdiction, which is, you know, railings and everything that's
above Okay. that's above that pier. So that the the ramp is down to the float. Well, we can have them we can have them we can have them come up. But the the main the main part of what the commission was looking for the applicant the the the peer and but it was really
the unlicensed floats and the applicant has uh has done everything that the commission has asked for. Okay, enough said. So, uh everything in your jurisdiction could uh could you identify yourself
since you raised your hand? How you doing? Pete Clement, uh, town meeting member, precinct 3. Everything that's in your jurisdiction is has been done. The the the handrails got to be put on, but that's above the water line and um the floats in the the the piles
are in. Everything that that you requested has been accomplished. an anticipated date when you'd come back for a certificate of completion or compliance. No, no. So, there was a negative determination and then we put we put conditions on it and they have satisfied
those conditions. You're right. I'm sorry. So, so as far as as far as I believe we're we're all set with with you. It's just good. We Okay. We appreciate appreciate everybody's hard work and getting the floats off of the mud is very much appreciated. All right. We appreciate uh everything
you you know you did. Thank you. Good. Thank you. Thank you. Um is there any other public comments? And there's no nothing to close here then, right? No. Uh you can you can ask if anyone wants, but if anything for I don't see any topic.
Okay. So, next up is a request for a partial certificate compliance for 30 Sherwood have D file number 14-1429. Uh the applicant is Alex Shook in Northshore Real Estate Solutions. Is anyone here to represent the
No, nobody here. So I think in the past when someone was here, we just kind of tabled it. Yeah, that's a Let me make sure that the new home owners. I don't I don't know. I don't know why they're they're not here. Hold
on. I'll do a quick check, but I I don't think I have anything from them. Just to refresh our memory, the the order of conditions we issued was to more or less clear the lot and then we're going to replace um with plain things that were
beneficial. Correct. So, there was driveway paving, patio reconstruction, establishment of new lawn, and storm water management and native landscaping. Um the current homeowners are aware that they're now responsible for those two conditions 12
and 13. So we were going to release everything except for 12 and 13. Um that was that was the plan for the evening. Um uh Emily the concom she did visited the site and does recommend issuing the
partial certificate of compliance. It's up to the commission whether they would want to rely on that or wait till a further date for the applicant can come. But the recommendation from the agent is to issue the partial certificate of
compliance. Right. I think we want to reinforce to the to the new owners, you know, what we'd like to see. There's a bond involved, right? So, they have there's some uh I'm not sure about the bond. pretty sure there is, but that's to it's
totally within within your purview to do that. Okay. Uh any other comments? I agree. No, you agree. Okay. Do we need to vote on that then, Brian? Um you can table it to the next meet to the to the to to the next meeting.
So you can continue it to the next meeting. Okay. So someone can make a motion. We'll continue to our next meeting which is August. I was in the middle of looking that up when you had me up. So give me just a sec. It's probably like August 8th, isn't it?
All right, here we go. So, the August date, the first is a Friday, so is the 14th. 14th. Okay. So, someone can make a motion. We're going to continue that to our August 14th meeting. Um, I'll I'll make a motion to continue 30 Sherwood Avenue,
partial COC, DP file number 14-1429. Applicant, Alex Shuck, Northshore Real Estate Solutions. I make a motion to continue that for August 14th. Second. All in favor?
I. Uh, next up is a notice of intent for 12 and 17 Cherry Hill Drive, DN file number 14-1438. The applicant is Vipur and they have many representatives here. I was looking
for my glasses on my head. Good evening. Jill man here on behalf of Millipur. I'm a lawyer out of Middleton, Massachusetts. And here with you this evening is the development team, the responsible party from Millipur is Mark Baker, the wetland um scientist Moren
Herald from Norse, the civil engineer Thad Berry from ASB, and then actually the site contractor Bobby Atanzio from Atanzio um services. So I'm excited to say that we were able to accomplish a lot in the very short period of time that we had since our sitewalk. Um, we
heard you in the commission loud and clear relative to having pavement in those areas. Brian, is there any possibility of putting up the plans we had? So, I'm trying to put up the site plan right now. Okay. But the I can I what I can do.
So, what we were able to do which is we were able to eliminate all all pavement within the 50oot buffer on both 12 and on 17. So on 17 which is remember
that lot behind the building and that was the one where it was about eight 730 feet of pavement and we had that circle. Well that area oh if I may approach so it's this area right here is within right here is
within the 50oot. Now if we show the new site plan we were able to redesign this entire lot. The way we did it is we now have an entrance point at the bottom of the property. If you don't have it, I have my computer and I can look up for
you, but if can I I don't know how much you can see from that far. So, can I Yeah, actually, if you would. So, do I need to speak into that for purp? Yeah, we Yeah, you can take the mic off, but it's not you're not going to be able
to travel very far, but just so that you can see it. Just watch the floor cuz it's taped. I feel like so important. So what we're able to do, excuse me, Mr. Brad Street, do you want to move closer? Thank you.
Thank you. Thank you. So basically that rectangle configuration now is a little bit different configuration as you can see. So we eliminated all the pavement in this area. However, there were some site constraints that required, if you can
see that small sliver, it's 58 square ft because the drive aisle has to be a certain width for the planning board and we slid the um imper uh pavement as far forward to Cherry Hill as we thought was appropriate. Um so that's why you have
that little tiny, if you will, reveal. So, we're in the 50- foot right there, but but that whole area that had been in the 50 foot, which is here, has been removed. Um, so just to recap, because when we were
in the field, we actually showed you the storm water management facilities and what we were doing. And and if I may, and I just want to follow up. The last time we had a hearing, the board had asked, the commission, I apologize, had asked, "Do we have the authority to allow you even to put the storm water
management structures in where they are to restore, to maintain, etc. Your bylaws specifically give you the power to authorize um or relative actually not even authorize to exempt prior work from the application of the 10 and 20%. So,
not only do you have authority, but it's actually exempt under your bylaw. And then you have the provision 31.7 that I had pointed out in the package that I had given to you, which kind of goes through the details. So, okay, there's an exemption, but the town gave you kind of a guideline for how you establish
that. And what we did is we showed you via that package with all the photographic evidence that the improvements had actually been done prior to 1999 when your bylaw was put in place relative to the buffer areas and the 10% and 20% limitation. So these
areas are in fact exempt provided we show you we provide you evidence and that that those areas don't get enlarged and that's what that buffer table is for. I showed you that the areas had been impacted in particular. Let's just talk about a A for now. In building A,
the same amount of disturbance is still we didn't increase any disturbance. And then we removed all pavement. So, we weren't changing anything as well within those areas because this entire area here and here had already been improved
and modified when the building was built because this basin that you see was was actually to handle the storm water flow from the building. Okay. So what Thaad then did is he redesigned this and instead of having a we were
trying to reduce impervious areas and we were able to do that throughout the site only by about a thousand square feet but we still reduced them um overall. So we were able to do a oneway and by going to a oneway we're able to reduce the amount
of aisle width from 24 to just 18 because that's what your planning board requirement is. So we were pretty happy about that. gave us all this extra space. Um, so here we still have the storm water basin and as we had we
showed you the quality of buffer from the wetland was so poor. It was loaded with invasive species. We walked it, you saw it. So we provided you with that invasive species management plan which hadn't been part of our original submitt but I did submit like last week. Um, and
that shows you that we're going to remove those invasives. We're going to manage them. how we're going to do that. And then we're going to plant native, dry, and wet tolerant plants because they're wetland, right? They get dry, they get wet, and salt resistant. So,
we're act and native. So, we have plants that are dedicated and designed to actually treat the water and improve the quality of the water, whereas what's there does not. Um, especially with the fragmitees. I think I think Moren Herald
had actually described for you that the fragmmites are spread by these seeds, you know, all over the place. They just blow and everything grows. So then they occupy everything and don't provide the right kind of treatment. So we're we're going to try and manage that. So that's
a um I'm going to stop at A and ask would you like to ask a question or A or would you like me to go to B and C? One quick question. What is the border on the street? The border for the street. Absolutely. So, here's the here's the property line for the street and here's the property
line for the street. So, this plan is not the current plan. That's the one dad's holding and that you have in your package today. It's over about maybe it only has a slight reveal because we pushed it over to try and you know get as close as we could to the
existing way. And what we're proposing to put in the way along the the right of way, but outside of where the pavement is are planting. So, we're going to put in some trees, shrub, not trees, shrubs, and some boulders so that there can be no more no movement between this and and
Cherry Hill other than through the new driveway that's here. Um, so it be some sort of vegetative border. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Um, so what we're providing is a vegetative border, but also with boulders, so they really
can't get there, Mr. Wilson. That was the point. And that actually was a comment from the planning board. And we're putting him in the right of way because this is a private way. So because it's a private way owned on both sides of the street by Millipur, they
actually own the private way, the whole thing, but it's subject to a full easement for whomever is is abuing. So, you know, putting in those plants, they're within the rights to kind of improve that area, right? And just to follow up, are you going to do that on the other side of the street as well? Doesn't look it from that plan.
So, it it for some reason it doesn't show on there, but we can show it when we get to A and B um at the next set. And I I would bet the planning board had discussed that. Oh, I'm sure the the planning Yes, I agree 100%. Because you can see um how we actually do show it. Mr. Wilson, can
you see? I I apologize if dad could approach. Okay, perfect. Yeah. And there's there's a row of hedges there now back here somewhere we saw.
Okay, perfect. So, all set with a can I move on? Okay, wonderful. Thank you. So, now we go to parking lot B and C. So, parking lot B and C is on that separate dedicated lot across the street. That's 12 Cherry Hill. Um, that's where it's just that
big parking area where we all met. I'm going to start at the furthest point where we started, you know, when we first got out of our cars and we had the cone parking. So, that is the furthest away from Cherry Hill, this area. And the reason I'm starting there is because this is the one that also had
encroachment in the 50 ft. Remember when we talked about it, those parallel spaces? Right here is the 50 foot line. Can you see my It's right back there. So, out of respect for the board and in response to your request, we wanted to
make sure everything's pulled out. It, you know, we couldn't in the other one because the drive aisle, but here we most certainly could because it's not a drive aisle. So, it's not safety, it was parking. So, we eliminated the parking spaces. So, we took out one, two, three. And it actually allowed us to improve
that swale because if you remember, we were doing the swale right behind the parking spaces. And I'm going to show you on the new plan what we were able to do. So we eliminated eliminated this intrusion. And then here we actually pulled there's this right see that
little corner that's also where there was pavement in the 50 foot. That's been eliminated too. And I'm going to go over to the other plan. Okay. So here we're still working on on this section. We'll call this parking lot C. Um so parking lot C did have some
encroachment in the 50 foot as I said, but all of that relative to hardcaping pulled out. Now what we're doing is the same thing that we sh had shown you during the sitewalk. When you walk behind you notice that the buffer was so degraded in that area. I mean it's
degraded for a number of reasons. One of which is because invasive species as we all know is just rampant. I the way they actually grow, the way they fertilize, the way they they I guess I don't know, what's the expression? The way they transfer and grow all of a sudden is
through the air. Birds seed and they just grow. So if they're not maintained, that's what happens. So now that's why we gave you that invasive um species management plan because we plan to make that part of your order of conditions so that Millipore now has a P plan in
place. it can go in and manage that in accordance with that plan. So, we're proposing to take out all those invasive species and we're proposing to replant and reveate that with healthy native plants as we had discussed before, dry,
wet tolerant, salt tolerant. Um, and we will spread, you know, uh, seed mix and we will plant as well. Um, and then what we have behind the parking lot, there is a swale that exists currently. If you remember when we were out there, doesn't even didn't even look like a swale
because it had become so overgrown, so illmaintained, it didn't work well. That's right next to where that big kind of graveled area was behind. So, what we're proposing to do is actually make it healthy. So, that shows some additional um grading elements in the
swale. And then in the back in this corner, you can see how can you see how we clipped it? Clipped the corner to take away that infringement in the 50 foot. That's why it's clipped here. You can tell from that. Yeah, you can. Okay, good. So, you can see
where we clipped it. And then we really managed the parking spaces. These are gone. So, those parking spaces gone. No infringement. No infringement. What that allowed us to do was it's really strange. You would think we pull out the pavement, all it's going to do, you're going to reduce, but it allowed us to
really improve this swale because it allowed us to have a better approach for how we Is that a head wall? Yeah, for how we actually installed the head wall in this area. So, it allowed us to put the head wall in, put in a really um high functioning basin and then that
swale that was, you remember, there was all water in it, sediment, it was there weren't plants growing because there was sediment, there was standing water, the slope was too high. It allowed us to really improve this back swale. So, that stays within the 50oot. And then again,
because we want to improve the buffer all back here beyond the storm water management where all those invasive species had grown, there's our proposal to manage it and to reveate so that you have healthy plants that will actually really treat and allow the the
groundwater to become high quality or better quality and more treated. So now any questions on one quick question on the please on the right hand side of the drawing. Yeah, I see there's u all that area beyond the swale
that's going to be invasives are going to be removed and uh plant things in there as well. 100% correct. And then as we spoke, you know, we would we will take down things that are dead, but if the commission doesn't want us to if you want us to keep something, I mean, we're willing to do it, but I figure, you know, sometimes
that provides habitat for certain types of birds and certain types of creatures. Um, but some of that is really not quality habitat and we can um, you know, we could quite frankly walk with you and do a little bit higher level, you know,
after during the construction process. That's probably the best time to do it. Um, so yes, the answer to that is yes. Now, any more questions about C? No. No.
Awesome. So, now let's go to B. Oh, I apologize. Sure. If there's um like a native tree that's healthy cuz I know some of the trees that were there were non-native, but even um like I'm very tree pro, but I also know that you
guys have done a great job organizing it and structuring it, but I think that the any trees that are viable that are healthy um would be nice if they could stay. Oh, we are proposing agreed. Yeah. I mean our our proposal is absolutely not to take down native trees
and to work around them. Um because there were very I mean there were we saw some beautiful beautiful trees but in the area where it's degraded and where we have the swale that's really the place where we have to remove the vegetation but behind here we'll definitely preserve that.
And I know like I I would prefer the old trees to stay the dead ones because they have value and purpose but I understand that um that can't be done. So that's okay. But again, we are willing to work with the commission during the construction. Yeah. I mean, Mr. Atunzio does a lot of
landscaping work and I know that he's very receptive to those types of comments. Okay. So, now we're going to go to parking lot B. Parking lot B is completely out of the 50 foot, completely out of the 35. It's even out of the 100. The only thing it's in is the 200 foot rip pairing. So, this is
this is that's why I saved it for last because I didn't have much to say about it. Um, oh, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Okay, so I do have one thing to say though. So, we do have to um increase the storm water manage capacity of the of the property.
And this is where we're going to talk about the abimeamemed as well. Remember how we Okay, so right back here, remember we showed you that area that was completely open. It was it was grassed. It was in poor shape. It was right on the corner. That's this area where we're proposing to put in that
storm water treatment. Number one, it's going to help with the swale. It'll improve the quality of the swale. We're going to put the head wall in that we're actually replica replicating here. All the water from this will actually flow in this direction and back to some of the um manholes in the in the um
main parking lot, if you will. So then this is our storm water management facility in an area that's already disturbed. What I did put in my plan and I showed you in that um buffer sheet is the area back here that Abumemed um
storm water basin that's maintained and you could see a couple of the manholes going down to it. We we are proposing to fix that. We're proposing to create that do everything we told you we would do. Manage some of the species if the board wants um we put that in kind of as a separate so that if the board thought
you know I don't know if we really want you to go in there and do that we won't do it. If you want us to, we will go in though and and just keep it as a part of the order of conditions if the board chose to issue that. And is that in the application, Brian? Sorry. Is that in the application for the order of conditions or do we have to make that
a special condition? We made it official in in terms of we added it to the recent submitt and said if you want it, we will add it. Um can I please very very briefly. So um we received these revised plans this afternoon. So,
we we let we uh let the applicant know um that we're encouraged by this, but we obviously, you know, we didn't have time to do the full deep dive. We we couldn't get engineering obviously to write a memo in time,
but just wanted to say that um so we we have not done the deep dive on the revised drawings. However, we are very encouraged by all the changes that they have done. Um but yeah we have not fully reviewed like all the changes. So then my secondary question is the
engineering report is not correct. So the engineering received they received it at some point today as well. Uh we would want an updated memo from them. Uh but basically based on the site visit um and the presentation this
evening the really for this evening we we can't vote tonight really because we don't we don't we really don't have an engineering memo. We don't we don't we did not do the full deep dive, but there's value in determining the commission. There's value in determining
whether or not you agree with going into the going into the the spaces to do this work. That makes sense. Mhm. So yes, just as a general consensus, not as a matter of a vote, not a vote, but just generally thinking, do you really want the applicant to be
going in and doing this work that's going to significantly repair a lot of of issues that are currently on site? So I can I had I had a if I may, Mr. So I did have a conversation with Josh Josh Morris the director who assists the
planning board and um the issue for us has always been which we've told you is that we need at least to give us an idea that they this is an acceptable plan and provided the planning department and engineering sign off that you would
actually approve something like this. I'm not asking for you to vote because you don't have the stuff. We we're not asking you to close the hearing because you need to admit that into your evidence. Um but would we would love for you to have a discussion and tell us that yes, you know what, we're okay with
the um the use of already disturbed areas that you agree that the project is exempt. Doesn't hold you to anything if something happens with the um plans. And the reason for that is so that I can actually go to the planning board at our
hearing in August and get approval. And again, the reason for that is because obviously the parking lot um at 54 is gone in December and in order to be able to complete this parking lot in time for the November before the asphalt plants
become exceptionally expensive and close down um we need to start work as quickly as possible. Um, so I guess I am asking you for for lack of a better term, a straw poll of of the commission members
and how you feel. Okay. So that's the extent of your presentation. It certainly is. Um, unless you want to hear from the engineer or the um wetland. No, I just I know remember I questioned at the site visit that there was going
to be a u a plantings plan and you just assured me that there was going to be one. So, in the notice of intent, I had listed um a number of native trees and shrubs that we're going to use once we remove the invasives. Um the planting
plan or the layout that dad shows on his plan is a general layout. Um, if you want more specifics in terms of spacing and exact um, tree species, I'm more than happy to provide that. What I
usually do is I provide a list of trees just so there's some um, flexibility. So, when they're ready to plant, whether it's in the fall or the springtime, if they can't find a red oak, I list a black oak so they can pick a black oak. Um, so there's a little bit of
flexibility, but I can certainly provide more detail. Um, I understand that we're going to be requesting a continuence at, you know, the close of our project. Um, but I'm happy to provide that if you'd like. Okay. And I just want you to make sure that's all in the works. It sounds like
it is. So, right. So, you want an actual engineered plan with with the planting shown just so I understand. So, I can provide that for you. Is that what you're looking for or more of a narrative? I I would say a narrative, but Brian, do you think different?
I mean, either either way works for us. We just want to make sure what they're planning and how many, you know, and then that would be the area that that you know, we went to something like this. We're allowing so much work within our jurisdictional areas. We'd be looking for some sort of bond to make sure all of this these plantings uh
survive and thrive. Okay. So just just so you know in my notice of intent on um page seven you know I specify native shrubs minimum of 2 to three feet in height four different tree shrub species
to be selected and just some of the shrubs low bush blueberry high bush blueberry smooth and stagghorn sumac pin cherry bay berry service berry some of the trees red cedar white spruce quake and aspen
Pin Oak. Um, so that's in the narrative, but maybe what I'll do is I'll submit a separate document so it doesn't get lost in the sea of paperwork to make it easy. I'm more than happy to do that. Good. Thank you. Sure. So, Mary, did you have any questions or
comments? Okay. Thank you. Sure. Do you have any questions, Mary? No, I'm good. No. How do you feel about this the whole overall project? Um, I'm comfortable with the adjustments
um and the plantings. Okay, good. Are any questions? I thank you. I think you heard what we had to say and addressed all our concerns very well. So, thank you. Uh, yeah. Um, I see you, Bill. Uh I'm of
the same uh thought process. I think overall it's a it's a great improvement to the area. I mean, I that I really have reservations about adding more uh pavement, but I think your plans to handle the water that comes off of that and the improvements that you're
proposing within the existing p existing wetlands more than offsets that and and we want to see Miller thrive. It's just there's it's a good business and we don't want to really stand in the way when we it's really
I think a net improvement and I think like not having those vehicles on poor surface grass and where things can seep through. So even though you know we're not fans of concrete it does definitely have a environmental impact that can be positive. So
good point. Good point. Okay. Uh Mr. Brad Street next to you to continue to the next Bill Street Tommy precinct one. I agree with the improvements. My only question I didn't hear mention storm
water storage uh snow storage for the winter. Does any of that affect any of this new vegetation that they're planning to put? It sounds nice, but I would be concerned if they put all of this question. I know they did mention storm storage at our site visit, but
you know what? It's a great question. I appreciate it. So, that was part of my presentation that I forgot. So, essentially, yes, we have stor we have um snow storage plan. So what it will be is
we plow here. We actually do plow into this area. That's how it is currently. What we will do is also when it's big storm events gear up that becomes our snow storage area. So we actually manage it on site and
maintain it. I want to say you know those big box stores you see with the big excavators that push the snow into one area. it'll get pushed into that particular area and then allowed to melt melt naturally because if it's in that area it then gets treated by all of the
basins which is great because then we have all that water infiltrating as well but it gets clean because it goes through the basins because it's all pitched. You're not you're not storing it within the 50ft boundary are you? We won't we'll store it right here. And how many parking spaces will you
give up for that? that that's that means that during storm events um Mr. Baker has to manage the site pretty heavily because it ends up being depending on this winter like last year maybe it was five spaces you know four years ago was 20 so it'll be whatever area needs to be
here they don't have a choice and you're comfortable with that as far as having those spaces we're going to talk to our vendor we start this conversation larger piece of working on site had before this past season that we use
on both. Okay. Just just a word of caution that we had an instance over in your neighborhood this past winter where there's a sign that says no sto plowed right in there. So, we don't want to see that. Uh
it will be a struggle to lose the spaces we need to Mhm. Okay. Good. Thanks, Mr. Brad, did you have your hand up again? Can you just one second? Okay, you're right. So, Mr. Baker, just do you want me to repeat? So, Mr. Baker basically
confirmed that Millipur understands that it has to eliminate some parking spaces during the winter months and that he's already discussed it with his vendor who provides snow removal services and ice uh management. And they understand they'll have a big machine on site and that that machine will manage it only in
that quadrant. Okay. Uh, any other questions from public? No. Um, all right. So, I guess we continue to our August 14th 14th meeting. So, someone can make a motion. We'll do that.
I make a motion that we continue the notice of intent for 12 and 17 Cherry Hill Drive, D file number 14-1438, um, Millerour continued to August 14th. Is there a second?
I second the motion. All in favor? I I Okay, so we'll see you again in two weeks. You will need another very hot day. Yeah. Uh let's see. Next up is a notice of intent for 200 Endicott Street, D file
number 14-1439. The applicant is raising Kane's chicken fingers and they have someone here to represent them. Uh thank you, Matthew Ashley from Bowler uh Engineering here on behalf of the
applicant uh raising canes uh chicken fingers. um projects located at 200 Endicott Street. Uh just to kind of get your bearings right across from the the Silven Street Grill uh where the existing Fidelity Investments was
formerly located or about to move. I think they vacated just recently to their new location. Um so under the existing conditions the the site is a um existing uh Fidelity Investments uh center, a large building
associated parking and um currently three curb cuts out on site today. Uh very limited landscaping um out there along with um no storm water uh infrastructure um whatsoever. Everything kind of flows
from north to south down to the um existing uh waters, rivers. I might have that backwards. Uh that runs uh uh technically in pee. Um I should also mention this is a very unique site or at least to me maybe you've seen a little
more often, but um the site actually right down the middle is the town line. Um so uh I'm just going to walk to the screen. I'll point it out real quick. So basically the building and drive-thru entrance is kind of like the visual that
is all Danvers. Uh everything to the south of that uh is located in PBD. Um so we have filed concurrently with um PBD conservation and uh planning staff along with Wers River is right along the the bottom border.
If you zoom down a little bit, you'll probably see it come right into uh to frame. There you go. Um so in the proposed conditions we are proposing a 300 uh 3,400
ft plus or minus a little smaller than that um quick serve raising canes uh restaurant. Um and with that is a dual uh drive-thru which wraps around the building from plan right up to the
north. Um the site is currently proposing 29 parking spots um and associated site features such as lighting, striping, um wayfinding signage um and other you know things you typically find in a development of this.
Um we've uh met uh with a lot of different staff from a lot of different towns um and tried to collect all that feedback uh preliminarily to kind of get um some feedback before we got in there. And some of the feedback that we
received um which is always a favorite is decrease impervious cuz out there it's basically just all pavement and building. um possibly add a fence along the southern side of the property um to you know stop trash or other stuff coming down into Waters River
uh and native plantings uh is always uh a comment that we hear. So collecting that feedback, we were able to incorporate um all of those things which is a really nice um all native plantings which I'll get into in a little bit. Um we did propose a fence along the southern property line just to stop
trash from blowing away. Um, however, that's never the goal to have trashes floating around your site, but does happen occasionally. Um, and then, uh, decreasing impervious. So, across our, uh, footprint here, we've actually decreased impervious, uh, 17 per% uh,
from the existing conditions. So, a lot more uh, pvious areas to naturally infiltrate and replacing it with, excuse me, what are you replacing the impervious with? Uh, so there'll be planting areas, there'll be uh, lawn areas. um a mixture
of stuff. Uh and then the last feedback that we also received was that we could provide any more um riverfront area that's currently per uh impervious and provide some more pvious area there. Um and we were able to incorporate that as well um here as well.
Um like I mentioned before, uh the existing site um doesn't have any type of storm water u management. So everything just sheep flows across the pavement um and over time kind of naturally built up a um like a burm on
the southern side of the parking lot. So what's happening is all the storm water will then come to some point or break through the burm and channelize um and it actually is channelizing and eroding down the slope and some areas across the site here down into the river uh or perennial stream excuse me. Um so with
the new design, we are a redevelopment um by the storm water management standards for our site. Um but we're going above and beyond um just those minimum standards to really um a great improvement here. So everything on site um from a pvious area will be collected
via deep sump hooded catch basins. Um or um we do have some natural curb cuts that go into vegetated filter strips uh for a more natural uh collection system. Um, and one of those goes to either a proposed subsurface uh, infiltration
system kind of located bottom left of the parking spots underground. Can't see it. It's underground on the plan too. Sorry about that. Um, or a uh, surface um, uh, basin kind of down there in the bottom right
corner. Um, so with that we are reducing um, peak runoff rates volume from the site and promoting recharge in the system. even though um we really don't have to uh decreasing the impervious area out here. So really going above and beyond and improving the condition
that's out there. Um one thing it is all located in um PED but I'll just go through it here as well. Um plan left I'll just point quick. So right there that is a um where bulk of the storm water is uh channeling and
kind of eroding the slope down there. So, as part of this project, we are proposing to restore that um with all natural uh natural native plantings um and uh clean up invasives that have kind of come across um the bank here, which reoccurring problem it sounds like in
most of Massachusetts in general. Um but with that along with the um the storm water management system, we do want to look uh to have a a controlled manner for runoff that is going to make it down there um in larger storm events. So um with our storm water surface basin, we
are proposing a channelized uh rip wrap reinforced swale so it won't affect the the bank or slope that's out there and have it in a controlled manner uh for those larger storm events. Um in general the site is wrapped by a ton of utilities and the
lowest point is down there in the bottom right corner. So that's why that that point was selected. Um lastly to talk about landscaping. Um so really not a lot out there. Um what is out there? There's a couple uh trees
and plantings around the perimeter of the site. So um we saved the I'd say about 80% of what's out there which is great um cuz that's where it is. However, uh we are proposing over 100 trees and shrubs and over 180 ground
ground plantings such as grasses or ground cover as well throughout the site. So, a really robust landscaping plan um to go along with this development. Um I'm happy to go deep dive into anything further here um but also want to allow you time to ask some
questions as needed. So, thank you. Could you um show us the on that diagram where the area that would be considered the part of dampers cuz it sounds like
some of it's PB, some of it's dampers, right? Could you just quickly just highlight where that area is for Danver? Sorry, I'm done. I'm I'm done. I'm done. Stop moving. So kind of my arm right here is Danverse and this is PD. All right.
The the the entirety of the building is in Danvers. Y and pretty much the entirety of the parking is in Peter. Y this is a very this is more fun for the planning board than for K because it's which parking ratio do you mean it in a different town?
I was more looking at um what part do we have control over? So all work that's within the Danver's riverfront area. Yeah. Which is in this particular case is basically between the 100 and the 200. That's pretty much all of the work.
And where where is that on the map? So yeah, it's like the line it kind of I mean rivers aren't perfectly straight, but the line generally does kind of just fall like kind of weaves back and forth right right on the dam's uh PBD line. It is on the site plan. Uh it's defined
there just for reference too. That's the 200 foot or the 100? That's the the 100. This is Yeah, this is the 100. The 200 this area. So it's all in the 200. And where's the main road? Silvin is
right there. Right. And 90°. Yeah, I got it. I got it. But b the entirety of the building footprint and the parking lot is already in degra degraded areas. It's already parking lot
or building where they're touching. Yep. So it looks like it's more to the back, the top part. Where's more to the back? The delineation for the wetlands. Yeah, basically the 100 is on the south
side of the building and the 200 is on the north side of the building. So every all the work that's in Danvers is between the 100 and the 200 in already degraded areas, right? And there's nothing within the the 35s or the 50s. There's nothing in the 35 or 50 that they're asking waiverss for from this
commission. The it's just triggered because it's all that work between the 100 and 200. even though it's already degraded. I'm sure it would be a completely different story if this was grass and it was already, you know, it was already working uh as you know for
storm water, but it's been paved over for ye. Yeah, they're doing the storm water management. Yep. They're improving what's there. Is that is that pending, Brian? Do we need to wait for that? The storm water report from the engineering people. So they we just I
think we just got a second round of comments for the planning board from engineering. Is that correct? Um they were going to get us their first round of comments. They said they thought this week. Yeah. Um and then we're going to planning in August, the first August hearing.
Yeah. Okay. So I'm not sure I heard the answer. So we don't have to wait for that then. Or do we? Uh well I mean because it seems to me it's it's fairly straightforward. I mean the jurisdiction that we have this is yeah the jurisdiction that you have is
so the storm water is being completely conducted uh sorry the storm water management controls is still part of site plan review. So they can hold on to that site the planning board can hold on to the site plan re review until the storm
water is done. But in terms of the areas for concom it's it's pretty boxed in in terms of what you have. Um but the planning board will not issue anything until they feel comfortable with the storm board. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Uh any other questions, Lori? No, I have no other questions. Mr. Brad Street. Again, Bill Barry telling me you remember me remember precinct one. I like the drawing. I think what is missing is the
boundary line showing between puberty and Davis and a line where the 3500 setbacks are. I know I was told at one point you can't use colors because the state doesn't accept them. You could use
color here and when it's copied over to send them it would only be black and white but it's I'm partially color blind but I certainly would rather see lines showing where these it's there Bill it's not easy to see but all the lines
you're talking about are there but they're hard to I 100% believe which is which why I brought it up. Thank you. Anything else? Um, like Brian said, you know, there's other boards that are looking out for the the water and stuff. And I think as
far as the wetlands jurisdiction, I don't think it's a big deal for us. Um, if you guys agree, make a motion and we'll just be done with it. Have to close the public hearing first. We do. Uh, okay. So, you want to make that motion? I'll make a motion to close the
public hearing for 200 Ender Street D number 14-1439. I second the motion. All in favor? I. Sorry, can I ask a question real quick? I probably should have done it right before you voted. Um, more of a procedural thing. And so we still got to
go to Danver's planning and if they want to update anything would that mean I have to come back to update that here if it's significant enough or is so basically if it changes if it changes anything with the you know the footprint
or anything like uh well really anything with the footprint or potentially additional pavement um which is their which is their purview. the staff would determine of whether or not it's a significant change or not. If it is a significant change from the plans,
you may have to come back, but that seems unlikely, but I I have no clue. I guess it really to be honest, it really depends on what happens with that engineering memo if you want like that's where the things could change. But to your point, uh there's
it's a it's a it's a call of determining of whether or not it's a significant change from what was approved and that's that would be it. Okay. Yeah. I don't suspect it's anything significant and uh if there was anything um and all the storm water to be honest is in PBD too. So it kind of
makes it even more fun. So okay, sorry. Thank you for the clarification. Okay. So someone can make a motion to uh issue an order of conditions. I'll make a motion to issue an order of conditions for 200 Ednicott Street, DP number 14-1439
with additional conditions as discussed. And there were no other additional conditions. Oh, sorry. There were no additional conditions. All right. May motion's been made. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I I Okay, good luck. Thank you, everyone.
Another place to eat on Indicard Street. Okay. Uh, next stop is 46 Riverside. Riverside Street and notice of intent. Uh, D file numbers 14-1440. The applicants Adam Wood and Genevieve Fiorente.
I'll get the plans up in just a sec. Okay. Well, I'll just introduce myself. Uh my name is Michael Paige from uh Griffin Engineering and as you said I'm here to discuss the project located at 46 Riverside Street. Uh the project consists of um removing existing a
deteriorating pier and replacing with a new pier and removing an existing deteriorating seaw wall and replacing with a new seaw wall and then some landscaping improvements. Um I'll just start. Uh, let's see. Can you
pull it up a little bit? Thank you. Um, hold on. Let me get there. It's all right. Good. Um the land uh the wetland the wetland resource areas in the vicinity of the site is uh first is the land subject to coastal storm flowage uh
which has a base flood elevation of 10 uh which uh the elevation uh the number um 10 contour is located on the front of the property here. So this whole area is located within land subject to coastal storm flowage.
Uh you can sort of see the dark line here in the dark line it goes through and goes around the shed. So that's all that's elevation 10. So this whole area is in land subject to coastal storm flowage. The other is uh coastal beach um which is landward of the mean low water line.
Um and this is all mud flats and the other uh wetland resource area is a coastal bank. We determined that based on the slope uh within this area were greater than 10 to one and then when it gets to about here it gets less than 10 to1. So we determined the top of coastal
bank was approximately right here. We also have land uh under the ocean which starts here goes seawward and we also have land containing shellfish which is the intertital zone area on this area and then we also have uh riverfront area associated with the
damas river which is 200 ft from the mean high water line which is uh meanh high waters here and so the base of the entire property is within uh riverfront but uh to discuss the project so the project is to replace this existing t
detail ariating um pier located here. It has no railings on it, so it's pretty dangerous to diverse and it the wood is warping and it's aging. Uh it's been about 31 years it's been up. Uh it does have a chapter 91 license. Um and uh so we're proposing to remove that along
with the piles and uh this little ramp and rip wrap area uh and replace it with a new um fix pier which is 4 ft wide, 100 approximately 178 ft long. I will have a 3- foot wide by 40 foot long gang
way going down to two floats. The floats are going to be 6 by13 and 6x20 which is just under the 200 ft requirement set by Danver's uh float requirements. Um I mean you notice that we are moving the pier further away from this property
line here and moving it towards approximately the center of the lot as best as we could. Um uh to you just to move it away from the property line. Um see
the floats the floats will be uh we're about to move this side. Is it out on the point part? The floats will be secured by paddle guides um located here and here and here and here. Um and uh the totes uh the
floats will be have rest on one leg to provide 30 in of clearance uh from the bottom of the uh floats to the mud flats. Uh there is going to be a 5ft separation between the bottom of the pair to meet in low water to allow uh omnstru
and along the shoreline. Um and the fixed pair will be secured to the new seaw wall uh in the concrete pad. Is there any uh salt marsh concerns? Uh no. Plus we're staying within the lawn area here. All the work in here is the lawn basically ends right here. So
all the work is going to be concerned uh contained in lawn existing lawn area for upland area and anything associated with be it would be within uh coastal beach and land uh under the ocean. Um the seaw wall itself is a concrete
existing seaw wall is a concrete wall has several cracks in it vertical and horizontal cracks. I'll show pictures in a little bit in a little bit. Uh but it is uh it's under the same chapter 91 license as the existing pair. Uh so it's about 31 years old. Um and we're
replacing it with um concrete segmental uh walls by SHA which we've done in the past and they seem like they work pretty well. Um uh the wall will be raised up slightly. Right now, the existing height of the existing elevation, the top of wall 7.3, we're raising up to elevation
8. Um, so not significant. Um, we're also doing some landscaping improvements. Uh, there's a a wooden deck here, which is only about a foot off the ground. Um, there's a crush stone sitting area with the fire pit and this is all mulch and that's all going to be replaced with lawn. Um, and it's
going to and it's going to tie in with the existing lawn area here. Um, as far as the landscaping too, we're also going to be raising the grade up. um about a foot or so um in this area here to help uh be more resilient to like the higher tides like the king tide uh so it
doesn't uh affect the landscape and uh reach the uh the structure. The structure is equipped with flood openings which are basically the full length of the foundation the whole basement height. Um, so this is why we do provide a little bit of a uh stone drainage trench here to any water that
gets into the basement. It will be able to go out and infiltrate into the ground. Um, also a part of the raising it up, we are providing these two small walls along the property line about 12 in high. They're not significant. They're just beh the the fixed pier does contain about 22
piles in all. They're 12 foot 12 inch in diameter. Uh we have spaced them 20 ft apart to meet the the requirements. Uh 20 times the diameter of the pier. Um and um I think that's it. Any questions?
Um the existing pier ends where? Existing pier starts here. It ends right here. Uh there's the gang way and these are the floats. Uh do you have those pictures? Yeah, I can show you. And the floats are sitting on the mud right now. So, this is existing. That's the new one.
That's the proposed. Yep. That's the existing. Okay. And whereabouts is this on Riverside? Riverside's kind of like a horseshoe shaped street. It's on. So, if you're going down Riverside and you take the turn, um it's it's basically on the back side of the
riverside. So, when that the U I think I forget the name of the side street there. Uh Bates. Yeah. So, it's in between Bates and the Riverside uh where it turns. It's probably about the third house in from Bates, I believe. So, this is the uh existing concrete wall. You can see the horizontal crack there. This
is the uh seawward face of it. This is the rip wrap embankment in front of it that we're going to maintain. Um and there's another picture there that you see the corner um up top one. This here, this is actually falling apart. You can actually see the soil behind it starting to create a depression. Uh you can see
it's very soft and it's actually making its way into the uh the Damis River. Um, and then the last picture is um the pier. You can sort of see the wood's rotten. It's it's seen better days. The wood is warped and you see that there's no railings and it's only about I want
to say 4 and 1/2 ft wide. So, it is pretty tricky to diverse. I don't think the floats I think the floats are in but yeah, the floats rest on the mud right now. And um we're waiting for the harbor master's comments on this. Right. Yeah, we did. We met with him back in April in
regards to this and he asked us to cut it back about 20 25 ft which we did move it back um but he hasn't had time or he hasn't reviewed the current plan um that we wanted you to move the end of the pier closer to shore by 25 ft. Yeah. So we moved the pier and floats
and everything closer to the land about 25 ft. It was originally a little over 200, right? And now it's 178. Yeah. Um so the harbor master has reviewed it. I just think he has not had the chance to put his thoughts in
on paper. Yeah. And we knew that we just wanted we were asked to continue this or go to the next meeting, but we figured we'd get in front of you now if case any other questions we have to address any other issues and we you know we can do it all at once in the next meeting. Uh yeah, I think we're going to need to
continue. Yeah. Just to see his comments and then I just want to get a feel for I'm not sure where it is on Riverside. Uh it's just, you know, these these long peers, it's we just want to take our time and do it right. Go to the site plan and zoom up to the
very top corner. I can I do have a locust map on there. Can you get to that? Yeah, I was just going to put it I was just going to go to Google Maps and just Yeah. Yeah, that's just um Would we want to do a site visit? Um like we could. It's just uh for what
we want to see. I'm I'm I think I'm familiar enough with the area cuz he used to kayak down there quite a bit. Uh but I just really want to see what the harbor master has to say cuz we're just getting farther out into the river and and I think that's more or less to get the floats off of the mud. Is that correct?
Was that people want to go out farther into the river to get their the floats off of the mud? Correct. Yeah. So this is our property here. Okay. Yeah, that's where I thought it was. And I did provide a um a a a site plan showing low tide if uh
if Brian can bring that up. So that this is this is uh the current existing pair. This is our uh neighbor's pair. Uh this uh resident virtually just got they just got approved the pair which it goes out approximately here. So our prayer probably go about I think it goes right
next door to this property going this way down. I think we approved it up here over there too. Probably several years ago now. So that that's probably lapsed. Uh it's like a it's a condo type building.
It must be one or two doors down from that. It's before the the the the uh public walkway. This is a two unit here, I believe. Yeah, it's probably it then. Okay. Uh, is there any public comments before we
uh vote to continue? None. None. Okay. So, why don't we uh make a motion to continue to the the next and hopefully we'll uh can uh Brian, can you guys reach out to Chris and see if we get a report from him?
I think he's going to be ready for the 14th. Yes. Yeah. But we'll make sure that I heard a talk of potential of a site visit. Do you or is that um I just wanted to put it as a possibility. Do you know it seems pretty straightforward but I know we did the other one.
We're h happy to coordinate a site visit. Um it's it's whatever the commission wanted to dance. I think I would have a better picture. So Em and I will coordinate a site visit over the next week or two. Um we'll get comments from the harbor master. The hope I would love to get the
comments from the harbor master before the site visit. That would be very ideal. So that's what we're going to go for. Okay. I'll make the motion. You are Emily. What type is it? Perfect. Okay. Great. Sounds good. You good for the motion? Yes.
I'll make a motion to continue the hearing for 46 Riverside Street, D14-1440 to August 14th, 2025. Second. All in favor? I I thank you. Uh, next up is old and new
business. Um, the minutes from June 12th and June 26th, I through my ineptitude could not find those on the the web. So, I have not reviewed those. So, we'll have to postpone that vote until the August
14th meeting. Uh, and just like we had talked about before and Brian, we'll just uh put it out for the public. Uh, if you can just give us an update and where we are trying to get a new member or two. Sure. So, we the conservation commission has been down a fifth member
um for longer than we would like. Uh we have been actively trying to recruit individuals. We also there's um there are residents that are interested in serving on boards and committees. Um so, we use that as like a talent pool. We've
been reaching out. Uh full disclosure, many people are interested in volunteering. Um but they are uh it's unclear why uh but I think it's uh that they don't necessarily want to do the conservation commission. We are trying
to um you know recruit people to do that. So in case anyone's listening and and wants to be involved, we are we are actively recruiting for a fifth member. Okay, let's uh let's get someone to volunteer. Um, okay.
So, yeah, we'll save the minutes for the next week, the next time. Next time. Sounds good. Okay. So, we are all set. So, if someone make a motion to adjurnn, we will do that. Make a motion to adjourn. I second the motion. All in favor? I Okay, great. And I'm sorry that we're
all done. Thank ma'am. Did you I see you sitting here tonight. Did you have something you want to speak to us about? No. Okay, good. I was just listening. Oh, great. That's great. Usually people that are here want want
to say something. So that's good. Are you interested in joining the board? I did it already. Perfect. This was just in here. All right. No, Emily. Perfect. Awesome. Great. Awesome. Good.
You're missing point. No, no, I missed I missed previous Seattle. How's the summer in Seattle this year? Was it real hot there last year? It was. Thank you for coming. Not a lot of rain. Not a lot of rain.
So, does the chicken know about the two other chicken? I you know what I said to Peter? I said on.