and the program. >> All right. Thank you. Uh, welcome to the Danvers Conservation Commission meeting on for May 28th, 2026. We operate under the Massachusetts General Law, Chapter 131, Section 40,
the Wetlands Protection Act, and chapter 26 of the Town of Dampers General bylaw, the Wetlands Protection bylaw. After the applicant presents his or her request, and the board has had time to ask questions and discuss the project, we
will accept questions from the audience. Because this is a public meeting, it is required by law that you give your name and address first. Although we may disagree on the issues raised, all persons present during the meeting are expected to be civil to all
other meeting attendees. This includes the members of the commission, staff, abutters, concerned citizens and property owners and project applicants. We also request that you confine your questions to the project and only as it
pertains to the wetlands act. We cannot handle nor do we have jurisdiction regarding such things as noise or traffic. All problems not related to the wetlands protection act and the town of Damber's wetlands protection bylaw must
be taken up with other boards. Um we're going to do attendance. My name is Mary Height. Lorraine Drapeek, >> present. >> Paul McNelte, >> present. >> Michael Splain, >> here. >> Peter Wilson, >> here.
>> Michael McCarthy. >> Andrew McCarth Mc McNelte, >> present. >> All right. Our first item tonight is 86 Elliott Street, notice of intent, D file number 14-1450,
and the applicant is Mrs. Vaka. Um, would you like to present please? >> Thank you. >> Give me one sec. I'll pull up the revised plan here. And we also have Mr. Vaka, the engineer present remotely.
>> Um, my name is Milinda Vaka and I'm here regarding an NOI at 86 Ellia Street. And this is my son Dariel. He's joined me today. Um since the last meeting, this is our third time here. Uh the project has been revised. This is the new project based on uh
to comply with DP and conservation committee recommendation from last meeting. Uh the updated plan reflects recommendation made by the conservation committee during the May 14th meeting. Uh the ADU has been shifted further away from the stream and the nearest point
between ADU and the stream is now more than 24 ft. The driveway has been also shifted further away from the stream as the commission recommended and the limit of work have been revised to address the EPA requirements. We'd like approval from the commission to continue the
project. >> Was there anything else or is that all you wanted to share? Everything was discussed on the previous meetings as far as I can recall. >> I just wanted to make sure before we started, >> we decided to present the new position of the house now based on your recommendations.
>> Yes. And thank you so much. Um let's see. Um would anybody on the commission like to ask questions or comments? >> Yeah, I'll go ahead. Uh could you just show them in the drawing just where the driveway and the building have shifted from into?
Yes. Yeah. So, I don't know if you can pull up the original plan, but the driveway was originally somewhere around somewhere around here. The driveway was much closer to the brook. It's now been put towards the edge of the plan, and the driveway has been moved to be further away from the brook. And the
area of work also has been adjusted, which it was originally along the edge of the brook, and has now been done all the way around >> about 20 ft away. >> Great. I I really appreciate you guys making the effort to to do that. And from what I see, you're you are
within the um the square foot limits uh as far as the no build in the uh no disturb zone >> impacts. >> Yes. >> New one. Here it is. Yes. of the no disturb zone is now down to 6.7% of the no disturb zone from a
previous 9.9% which is below the 10% uh I believe is the environmental requirement from the bylaws and the no build zone is down to 10.4% 4% well below the 20% maximum.
>> I just have a just type of pal just one one quick question. Can you remind us the driveway itself? What are the materials? Is it a permeable material set for the driveway? >> Spot. >> Uh my engineer. Yeah. Yes. This can be
gravel with uh plastic honeycombs filled with gravel. So it pretty much is gravel driveway is not pavement. >> So it's permeable. >> Yes. >> But my engineer can give you better description. >> Oh sorry. >> Yes. Good evening. This is Josh. I'm the
design engineer for help them with the project. I don't know if you uh the presenter has a detailed I think the last sheet of the plan. There's a detail that shows the material and the cross-section of of that the driveway. >> Okay.
>> But it's I said the cross stones with a honeycomb just to provide some reinforcement. It's all premeable surface. So should not really alter what's is what's there now. So it's meant to infiltrate and uh um allow ground water to go into the ground.
>> Thank you. is if this is a detailed here that shows that in this area you have done the details of it. >> Yeah. Hi uh Michael Splain. I'm in favor of the project. You've reduced the impact uh significantly and uh that's what we requested and you did do it. So I'm in favor.
>> I just want to say thank you. I know this was a lot for you to do and thank you so much. Um it's we're really pleased. It's much better. I have I have a question for staff >> and I I'm just when it comes to the enforcement order. >> Yes. >> So process-wise um because there's
things in the enforcement order that I think would make sense to include in the order of conditions or in some form. I don't know how how does that get managed? >> So they can run concurrently. Basically the order of conditions is permission to
do the work according to the approved plan. >> Okay. Okay. And then the enforcement order is action that needs to be taken outside of the order and conditions to get the rest of the property into compliance >> for work that was done within conservation commission jurisdiction. >> And then we look at the the enforcement
conditions in light of the fact if it's approved like some of the things it's like they're not going to be able to do things within 30 days because >> Right. So and that's where when we get to the enforcement order section um all of that information can be hashed out with the applicants. It's all it's all in draft form right now. Yeah. a lot of
flexibility. >> Well, just to to clarify a little bit, yes, >> the the enforcement that the DPA is is is recommending is pretty much around that intermittent stream, right, with the the crossings and limiting the the um the disturbance.
>> Yeah. And then um replanting and restoration for the land that had been cleared that's not part of the order of condition. >> Okay. I'm not sure if I'm getting ahead of myself or not, but there were several crossings of the the U stream. >> Yes.
>> That the D wanted removed. >> Yeah. So, because those are unpermitted and they aren't part of the new plan either. So, they would need to be >> Okay. Do we need to include those in the order of conditions or >> that would be in the enforcement order? >> Okay. And the applicants are aware of
what the the enforcement order is calling for. the draft enforcement order has been shared with them. Um so that when we get to that agenda item, you guys will be able to to work through those details. >> So in voting on this I mean can we again is can we vote on this with the
assumption that the enforcement order will also be >> well it's next on the agenda. >> No but we're going to first have to vote on this. Right. >> Right. Yeah. And so if we approve it then >> then we better approve the enforce just to make sure that we're also improving approving the enforcement order.
>> Correct. Yes. >> So you'll you'll manage that from a process standoint. >> Yes. Yep. Absolutely. >> Perfect. All right. >> I'll be able to help you out. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Of course. >> Did Andrew did you have anything to say, Andrew? >> I don't believe I can comment currently. >> Okay. All right.
I have some people saying that they think they lost the connection in the lobby here. So, one second. I just need to It looks like the lobby removed some people. So, I just need to let them back in. Sorry about that to everyone who's here remote. Um Okay, people who were remote, you are
back in. It's I apologize for that. All right. Um are we ready for public comment? Everybody good here? >> Yes, sir. And I'd like to also share Miss Vodka um and to everybody on the project, thank you very much for um
reorganizing the structure and the project so that it met what our credentials were. So we greatly appreciate that. Um and we're going to ask and you guys are good. >> Yeah. Okay. So we're going to shift over to um if anybody in the public would
like to speak. So you guys are good. Does anybody here in the public Any comments? No. >> Anybody online? >> Nope. I don't have anyone remote um up. I do have Adele saying that he can't hear anything. So, one second. Um
let me see what's going on here with Teams. Sorry about that. Um All right. People who are remote, is anyone able to hear us now? Can you please drop a message in the chat and just let me know if you can hear me? Uh,
>> all the settings are correct. So, I mean, >> I'm not trying to be rude, but it's >> No, no, it's okay because we do have more people. We have a lot of people. >> I have everything. Everything is correct. So, >> those would be conditions. >> I'm unmuted. >> I'm unmuted. I have everything
>> settings. We tested it earlier. >> Okay. >> Oh, wait. Maybe they're right. Maybe something happened. You should >> Okay. Um, if you're I'm I'll put a message in the chat. Um, >> yeah, just really play with it. Sorry, I tested it earlier. Something must have bugged out. I apologize. >> That's okay. Thank you.
>> So annoying. So, I tested it. Worst case, if I can't get it to work, I'll have it my computer might pick up the whole room. So, just make sure instead of the if that makes sense. >> Okay. >> Okay. To people who are remote, please um please sit tight. We are trying to
get the sound back here so that you can hear. Well, you can't hear me. >> The place in the air was quite the place to see, wasn't it? Really? I haven't been there. >> All right. I apologize everyone. We are trying >> while I play with it. For now, I'm going
to put it on the computer mic. What's our >> Oh, they can hear us now. >> Yeah, I put it on the computer mic. That's why. >> Okay, perfect. >> So, just make sure everyone please just make sure you're talking to the mics because I can't. The normal audio is not working for teams. So, I have my computer picking up everything instead of the mics going into teams. So, just
speak loudly so people can hear online, please. Thank you. >> While you just continue the meeting as well. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. You're all set to move forward. Okay. Um, so we're good for motions to start. >> Just make sure you're right into the mic, please, Mary. >> Oh, yes. All right. So, um, can someone
make a motion to close the public hearing for 86 Elliott Street, D number 14-1540? >> I move that we close the public hearing for the 86 Elliot Street project, D14-1450.
>> Is there a second? >> In favor? >> I >> opposed. All right. Um, can someone make a motion to grant a waiver to allow the work in the 35 ft no disturb zone for 86 Elliot
Street, DP number 14-1540. >> I'll make a motion that we allow uh that we allow work within the 35 uh foot uh for D file number 14-145086
Elliott Street applicant Linda. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Second. >> In favor? >> I >> opposed. >> All right. Can someone make a motion to grant a waiver to allow work in the 50oot no build zone for 86 Elliot Street
number 141540? I'll make a motion that um we grant a waiver to allow the applicant to work in the 50 foot no build zone for 86 Elliot Street D file number 14-1450. >> Is there a second?
>> Second. >> In favor? >> I. >> And no opposed. All right. And then um can s can someone make a motion to issue an order of conditions for 86
Elliot Street D number 14-1540? >> I'll do it. >> Is there a second? >> Uh before we proceed, >> you got to say uh or do we do the other >> Well, with that with that motion, there is six or seven conditions that we want to touch on.
>> Y >> um uh Emily, yes. Do we need to read through all these or can we just uh how can we >> um I would read through them just to get them onto the record as additional conditions um that will be added onto the project. >> So are you seeing those Lorine just uh
>> Okay, you're on the same page down here. >> Yep, I see them. >> Okay. I make a motion to issue an order of conditions for 86 Elliot Street D number 14-1450 with additional conditions as discussed. And these are one, no fuel, oil, or
other pollutants shall be stored in any resource area or the buffer zone thereto unless specified in this order. Refueling, servicing, and repair of motorized construction vehicles shall be done outside the 100 ft buffer zone.
Equipment operators shall be prepared to immediately respond to accidental releases of fuel, motor oil, and other liquids through containment. After completion of work and prior to the issuance of a certificate of compliance,
the applicant shall permanently mark the limit of work approved in this order as well as the edge of wetland areas to ensure no inadvertent encroachment into the wetlands or buffer zone. The markers to be used shall be approved by the
conservation committee. The applicant shall instruct all agents to explain these markers to buyers, leis, landscapers, and all persons taking over the property from the applicant. These markers shall remain in place in perpetuity.
Deicing chemicals such as sodium, potassium, and calcium chloride are prohibited on driveways located in wetlands resource areas and buffer zones. This condition shall survive the expiration of this order and shall be included as a continuing condition in
perpetuity on the certificate of compliance. The burial of stumps and any other type of construction refues or other waste material is prohibited in the buffer zone. Cement trucks shall not be washed out in any wetland resources or buffer
zone area or into any drainage system. Any deposit of cement or concrete products into a buffer zone or wetland resource area shall be immediately removed. >> I just had a question for staff on one of the conditions.
>> So, uh, on the driveways, I'm thinking in the winter they're not allowed sodium salt or potassium and calcium chloride. What is there a specific product that is allowed? >> There are um, it's I can provide some for the applicant that they can use. Yep. There are definitely alternatives out there
>> because all these are typical. >> Yes, exactly. Yeah, these are all kind of typical conditions that we have on on a lot of projects. Yeah. >> And I have a follow-up question before we second the motion. >> Yes. >> Uh is staff someone in the town hall staff going to be monitoring um as construction goes on to make sure that
these >> conditions are >> Okay, good. Thank you. >> So, I'll I'll go ahead and second motion >> as amended or as with >> with conditions attached. >> All right. Um, so now it would be in favor, right? Yep. All in favor?
>> I >> Good luck. >> All right. And now we going to shift over. What's the three? >> Now we shift over to the enforcement order. >> Tell people to complete. >> Yeah.
>> All right. So, just so that you guys know, um, you have three years to complete the order conditions and then are we going to shift over to item two, Emily? >> Yep, we're ready to shift to the next item. >> Okay. All right.
Um, this is the enforcement order for 86 Elliot Street. >> Yes. Sorry. Um, so just as a I can provide a quick background. Um, at the property on about March 2nd, um, staff were notified that there was some work
being conducted at the property that was within conservation commission jurisdiction. Um, so we went out, drove past the property, could see that some of that work had been conducted. Um, contacted Mr. Vodka. He came in, met with staff and um see yeah so met with
us March 26th came in met with myself um our director of public works as well as the planning director and um the VAS move forward with hiring an engineer and getting their notice of intent filed and then um in contact with D in reviewing
the project um they suggested that an enforcement order be issued for the restoration and mitigation work for the land clearing that had taken place um on the property. That's separate from the order of conditions, which is why we're here today to so the commission can talk through that process with the property
owners and um come to some some terms and terms and conditions, I guess, and agreements on how to move forward with that enforcement order. >> All right. Thank you, Emily. Um if you guys could just go back to the podium for the enforcement order. Thank you.
All right. A question for staff if that's okay. >> So and and maybe this gets addressed coming up but you know the the the order reads as um 30 thing things happening within the within the date of the enforcement order >> but like 30 60 days they can't do this
work until they can't do these things until the project has been completed. >> No the the enforcement order can start right away. The enforcement order and the order of conditions um can run concurrently. >> They can do it contemporaneously. you know. >> Yes. >> You know, some of the things like Paul,
like the the crossings, those little bridges, those are they have to go so they don't have to wait for the uh the building to be >> constructed. I just don't I just want to be sure, you know, it's just fair if you will. >> Yeah. No, abs. And I did speak with um D about that and they said there's no problem with the two with basically the order of conditions and the enforcement
order running at the same time. >> Okay. Well, one other thing. Will will any will any equipment or anything need to use a crossing to get over the >> um that would be something to discuss with the office. >> So they would how would that be
addressed? >> Um if it's needed then that's where these timelines and the enforcement order are flexible so that they can do the project and then take care of that too. >> And my understanding Mike is that heavy equipment could get access down at the street level. It's just a a fork there.
Let me just go to the left instead of straight. >> Good. >> And the enforcement order is basically if we I don't know if we approve it or not is tonight is today. >> Yeah. And enforcement orders can be ratified. So as things move along throughout the project um if there are changes or if it's something gets
checked off the list as completed, then I can send a revision over to D saying this has been addressed, this has been taken care of. Yeah, there's a lot of flexibility to ratify this along the way. >> Another a quick question, Emily. uh suppose they don't conform to the enforcement order, what are the consequences that they would
>> um that at the local level there are fines. Um there aren't fines at the state level, but if it does come to that, the commission can vote to have the state step in and become involved in the enforcement process. >> Okay. >> So, it can be escalated to the state level if need be. >> And I know that um they've seen this
before. Do we go over it with them today? >> Yes, definitely. Yep. because this is where we're you um the commission and the property owners are going to be agreeing on the timelines and and everything. Yeah. So, definitely. >> Okay. Um let's see. So, I guess I'll do the first one. Um
so, the first part of the enforcement order, and I know you guys have read this before, you're aware of it. um is that within 30 days of the issuance of the enforcement order, all debris and any unpermitted crossings that are going
over um the intermittent stream, those will be removed from that intermittent stream. Um I did uh talk to Emily that there's a process for like if you would like to put permitted crossings in that place, um we have a process for you to
be able to do that. uh but that the ones that are there now um within that 30-day time period would need to be removed. And I know obviously you're going to have to get across from the home to that property. So um there is a place where you can um permit to make a a crossing
that's a little more stable. And then the second one um is within 60 days of the issuance of the enforcement order um you're going to hire a wetland scientist, which I know I'm pretty sure that you've already done that. Yeah,
we've met them before. Um to develop a restoration planting plan for the land that was cleared so that it stabilizes it. Um and it allows that intermittent stream to return to um original conditioning. And then the plan
shall be provided to the staff and that it would be shared with the commission um at the next available conservation m meeting upon the 60-day completion. And then the third one is that the erosion controls should be in place to
protect the bordering vegetated wetlands that's behind that house. And then the intermittent stream and erosion control shall be shown on the planting and stabilization plan. Um any questions on those three? Okay. I just want to go through them so we're um
so it's clear. And then once the restoration and stabilization plan is approved, the wetland scientist shall provide quarterly monitoring updates to staff for a period of two years. Um, and that would just include written updates and photographs documenting the
conditions at the time of the report. Um, and then the last one is the property owner shall attend um, conservation commission meetings at agreed upon intervals to just update us on the process of what's going on. Um, and was there anything else or is that all?
>> That's if there's anything else that you would like to discuss with the vodkas or you'd like to discuss, this is the the chance for you all to do that. I think >> do they give them a chance to comment on the conditions? I agree. >> Did anybody want to agree or comment on the conditions? >> I'm also
>> I'm I'm fine. I no comments. I agree with them. I stay here. >> Did the applicants uh agree with all the conditions? And >> it looks like Mr. Vodka has his hand raised. Um do you want to unmute yourself and go ahead? >> Mr. Vaka, sorry. One second.
Okay, Mr. Mr. Vaka, we should be able to hear you now. >> Yeah, thanks Emily. Uh, we agree with the conditions. Uh, my only question is regarding the a new crossing. Uh, is that can be on this meeting or we
have to apply another time if if if it's allowed. >> So, that would be a separate filing because that wasn't on the plan that was approved. So, I can help you through that process, but yeah, but that would be separate from >> Okay, that's fine. Everything else is fine. already started with working with
a wetland scientist and she agreed to provide everything what you required on this uh order condition and the bridges will be gone. One of them is temporary. It's very easy. The other one is going to be right
away. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. All right. So, we ready to vote on the public com. >> Oh yeah, that's right. Um,
do we Let me see. St. Do we have a public comment on the enforcement? >> Um, if you would like to open to the public account. >> Does anybody have any comments on the enforcement order? No. Okay. Um, I think we're ready for a vote then. So, can someone make a motion to issue the
enforcement order with agreed upon terms and conditions for the property owners of record, Spartac and Mrs. Vodka at 86 Elliot Street. >> So moved. >> So >> say that just
>> Yeah. So just say it's uh it's with the conditions that Mary just >> Well, with the conditions that right the marriage is red. That's correct. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I I >> All right, you guys are all set. >> Thank you. Thank you guys. Good luck. >> Yes.
All right, let's see where we are next. Uh, next we have item three, which is a notice of intent for 54 Cherry Hill Drive, file number 14-1452.
The applicant is a Biomed Incorporated. Um, and then we're going to just ask the applicant to present. >> Yep. And we have um Denell. He's present remotely. So, just give me one second. I need to
um allow his microphone and camera. One sec, Dell. I'm getting there. >> There you go. >> Okay. Hi, Danell. We are all set. We can hear you. You're good to go. >> Sounds good. Um thank you lad and g l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l l ladies
and gentlemen having uh uh us here uh my name is Denell Baptist again for the record um from High Point Engineering uh representing uh Abu Med Johnson and Johnson for the 54 Cherry Hill Drive site expansion project. >> Thank you.
>> Um just some quick housekeeping. We are here based on a continuence from the last hearing um to allow the board to review supplementary documents that was sent to the board on behalf of the NOI filing and supporting documents that was
requested from um the local commission and uh Mass D. You could continue on the slide. >> Oh, sorry. >> No problem. >> The mouse is very sensitive. Okay. Good.
>> Okay. Sweet. Um, so as we know, as we discussed before, this is uh 50ial drive. Um, the applicant is providing. >> Can we just get that drawing bigger? >> Yes. I'm I'm looking for Zoom right now.
>> Go to slideshow mode. >> Humor me. >> Yeah. Yeah. It'll blow the whole thing. >> I think it's I think it's F5, Emily. I'm not sure. >> Sorry. Um, not working. Sorry, Denell. I'm getting there.
>> I think you'll get rid of all this stuff on top. >> Well, slideshow at the top. >> Slideshow. >> Slideshows right there. >> Perfect. Sorry. Uh, from current slide. >> There you go. >> Oh, that's better. Thank you. Okay. Yeah, there you go.
>> Thank you. I think >> that's it. We lose. >> Danell, are you still here? >> I can't hear the board, FYI. >> Oh, they haven't said anything yet. >> Oh, we haven't said anything. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> I think they were waiting on you.
>> Can you hear us now? >> Speak in the mic. >> All right. Sorry, Dan. One sec. >> Go to this one real quick for now. Should be able to hear us now. >> Okay, Danell, can you hear us? >> No, I can hear you. >> Okay, now I can hear you. >> All right. All right. Perfect. You're all set to continue.
>> Okay, we could stay on this slide. So, uh this is a a quick overview um kind of a rendering um just showing some of the features um that impacts the 100 foot um jurisdictional buffer um along with the the 50 foot as well. Um the board is
fully aware of the the impacts and improvements within the 100 foot buffer. We did a sidewalk. Um so this is just a depiction of the proposed development. Um next slide, please. This is Could you go back a couple slides? I think there was an arrow
slide. I'm not sure if >> Oh, I think that's a little further down. One sec. >> Oh, so yeah, >> this one. >> Okay. Yeah. So, so this I kind of want to focus on this this a little bit more because this is a new slide that uh was added to the the the slideshow and I wanted to the board to just pay
attention to this slide just to get a better understanding of the impacts and the pre-development um storm water flow versus the post-development storm water flow. So if you could look at the left side um entitled pre-development in blue that is
the uh the flow from the flow towards the wetlands on the existing conditions. That bold black line is just representing the the footprint of the proposed development. That's all that's representing. So you can get an idea of
where the limits are. This is a existing um um presentation depiction. So the red arrows show under existing conditions the flows that goes towards um the the town of Danver drainage system either
collected either overland flow or by uh catchb conveyance. So as you can see under existing conditions there's a lot of flow going towards the wetlands wetland area. Um if you look to the right
that same image um now shows the post-development flow and the intent of of these images is to show that we are collecting a lot more flow because of the advancements and improvements of the parking area and they're all collected
and treated and there's a very very dimminimous amount of blue arrows going towards the wetland and I guess the intent of this is to show that the improvements is not adversely affecting the wetlands from a stormwater standpoint. We're not introducing um any
new imperous areas or potential uh um imperities to the wetland area. Everything is captured and and treated. Could you go back to the previous slide, please, Emily? Yes.
So, this slide um shows uh pretty much the same thing. I think the the one of the um additives to this plan I wanted to key in on is that uh kind of cyan um legend and that kind of cyan um
depiction or color. And um this was part of the updates that was sent to the board um because of the the close proximity of that graveled pathway. Um during construction um there's always,
you know, items where you're going to have either additional pavement area and what have you. So, I think it's in the best interest for the applicant to allow for at least a foot or two of of of leeway
in case the construction does encroach into the 50-foot um buffer zone. Um, a lot of times in construction tolerances are included in there and this is one of those measures that we wanted to implement just in the event that that gravel area needs to um expand u a half
a foot or a foot or or work needs to be in that zone. So, we're kind of thinking ahead on top of that. um a permanent structure um via a 12-inch diameter concrete
structure is going to be implemented to hold um the uh no storage sign. So, sorry, the conservation sign, I believe it's a little small. So, what that sign is, it's a decal that the town
requires and that sign is going to be um embedded into the structure. So, um it it's clearly visible. That's part of the the additional updates to the chart as you could see that has that uh small um
area that's going to be within the the 50 foot no build. Other than that, the the chart is pretty much the same chart as before. Um we are we are uh not disturbing um any uh any
areas within the zero to 35 ft. Um from the 35 to 50 ft. Um pre-development is 173 ft. Post development is 260. So there's a delta of 87 ft.
Um, pre-development disturbance between the 50 and 100 is 1570. Post development is 10,750 with a delta of 9,180. Just to give some perspectives.
Next slide, please. Slide. And this is just the layout as you've seen before. Nothing to really discuss. Go to the drainage plan, please. This is just to reinforce. I know the board's seen this already, but this is just to reinforce that there is on-site
storm water management um that is being reviewed by uh Mr. King um and his team in order to obtain a stormwater permit. Um I also want to uh make the board aware that this this project is being seen by site plan by the planning board
for site plan approval. Um along with I just said um the engineering department for stormwater permit. I wanted to make one more housekeeping um additive. Uh there was a comment. There was a comment regarding the
resource area that was uh caught or addressed by the mass D. Um just to give some more dialogue on that conversation with mass D. Mass DP recognized that our storm water sorry our wetland report
um indicated an isolated vegetate vegetated wetland and and was depicted on the plans. We have since um went out to the site and confirmed that it is indeed a IVW and um updated all our plans with
coordination with Emily. Appreciate your coordination, Emily. Uh and that also triggered um the request for a waiver for um disturbance between a 100 foot buffer zone um for IBW. Um that was
submitted to the town as well as part of the supplementary documents for a waiver um based on um Mass D's findings which they uh subsequently um responded back with no further comments. Um, so they
are satisfied with with with the NOI submission. So with that being said, um, open up the floor for any questions. >> Um, thank you Janelle. >> No problem.
>> And I just had a quick question. Um the request for leeway and tolerances was that given to Emily >> where you had mentioned to expand the gravel area and to have a space. >> Yes. Yes. I I received all the documentation
sent everything. Um it's I've reviewed it all. It's administratively everything that was requested has been received and reviewed. >> All right. Awesome. Thank you. Sorry. >> Um anybody have questions? >> Yeah, I have one. Um if you go back a couple slides the um they show the
shaded keep going right here. So the the the reddish uh shaded areas that are within the uh the 100 foot buffer is that all new construction. >> The red area correct is new pavement in
in the 100 foot buffer zone. >> Okay,000 square feet. That's the 9,000 square feet. >> Yeah. Yeah. I just have more I guess a comment. You know, my concerns in the past have been
you know trying to understand that the why the addition for you know that fairly significant amount of impervious surface. But I will say >> I'm sorry I could bar sorry I could barely hear you. It's kind of choppy. Sorry. >> I think I need to sit closer to the mic from what I understand. Um sorry. No, I
I've expressed some concerns in the past about the significant increase in the paved area for the parking. Um, but I have to say that, you know, and you've mentioned this when we were on the site on the sitewalk site visit about the direction of the storm water and the one slide that you showed, which I'm assuming that Emily and the engineers
have seen the same thing, showing the the direction of the flow. Um, I found that very helpful, you know. So, yeah, there may be increased impervious area. Mouthful. Um, but assuming this is all accurate with the flow being now directed towards the storm water
treatment facilities, um, I I think that's that makes sense to me. So, thank you. No question on that though. >> No problem. No problem. >> Mike, >> uh, just the the, uh, increased
impervious that we just looked at, if you go back to that, please. Um uh how many parking spaces does that represent? >> About 23 24 parking spaces roughly. >> And what what is the total number of
parking spaces? >> 267 parking spaces total. >> And how did you determine that you needed that extra 23 spaces? >> It was deter it. So there was a a buildout concept plan and based on the
needs and growth of the Abomemed Johnson programming um it facilitated the extra um expansion in that area. Um so it's based on the programming and the expansion of the Abby program that drove
the parking demand. >> Thank you. I can I think I can add this is again help me if I've misunderstood things here but the town has requirements for parking for commercial buildings. >> Yes. >> And in fact they've met the town requirement for the commercial commercial building parking. So there's
that's my understanding of their one of the reasons why there's a significant increase in parking. >> Yeah. I mean it's Dell I think you can speak more to that. It's I haven't looked at the parking counts because that's more the planning board um side of things. >> Yes. Yes. But I could speak on it briefly because, you know, out of
respect for the board, um the the parking is within the uh meets the parking demand and and will be addressed during the the site plan review, but it does meet parking requirements. So, we're not we're not underparking the the
the site. The site has sufficient parking to support the proposed development program. Hi. I have no further question. >> I'm glad. >> I have one further. Uh I heard planning board before, but I didn't quite hear. Is this been approved by the planning
board already or is that pending? >> Not yet. The next planning board hearing is June 9th. >> They were they wanted to make sure that conservation was um taken care of first. >> Okay. But their their need for additional parking spaces is to satisfy
a planning board requirement. >> Excuse me. Oh, are you saying that they were required to have this number of spaces? >> Um, planning board requirements. And again, Danell, I would need you to speak more to this. Um, this is outside of my purview since my focus is more on conservation as far as the parking
requirements that are required based on the facility. So yeah, Denell, go ahead. >> Yeah. So, so, so pretty much I'll just interrupt you, you design a project and, uh, such as this and in doing so, uh, that in
turn determines how many spaces you are required to have. >> Correct. >> I I I didn't hear you just breaking up far away. That's what I'm talking. So I'm just saying based on the project design that in turn triggers the number
of spaces you're required to have for the project. >> Correct. So there's a zoning there's zoning that that is uh within the zoning bylaw and based on the use it drives the amount of parking. >> Right. >> So based on the establishment that
drives the parking. >> Are you saying that >> so that's how it was established? I I'm just trying to determine are you saying you had to have this number of spaces or did you already meet that uh without the additional 23 spaces? >> No, the the spaces were expanded bas
based on the programming. If if the program of the building didn't require it, then there was no need. But based on the programming, the expansion um the and demand and the office office space c office space um type use, it required this amount of parking.
And again, this is a planning board item that um will be vetted as part of the site plan approval. >> All right. Thank you. Thank you for that clarification. >> No, no problem. Anytime. >> Anybody else? >> No questions.
>> Um I just have a question for Emily. So the Mr. King is reviewing the storm water management and I know for us it said um it was upgraded storm water management system incorporating storm water infiltration and water quality treatment. He doesn't need to discuss
that with us because he's they're doing it here. >> All goes through. >> It's all through. Okay. I just wanted to double check. >> Um are we good to switch to public? Yes, you're ready to um is there anybody in the public who would like to speak? >> Yes.
>> Oh yes, Mr. Bradreet. Can't see you back there. You should sit in the front row. >> And Danell, I'm just gonna take the plan down for a quick second here. Okay. >> Yeah. And I'm leading forward because I'm just trying to hear everyone. >> Okay. >> So, Bill, make sure you speak nice and
loudly, please. >> Bill Brad Street, Tom meeting member, precinct one. I heard the reference to the storm water management. Does that affect or is it affected by
the storage of the snow? >> No. So, so the storm water management is directly related to stormwater runoff that's exacerbated by the increases in pvious area. So, um and and overland flow. So, the the snow storage although
you know things melt, right? So it it would melt and it would go into a stormwater infrastructure, but that doesn't drive the design or the storm water management uh programming. >> Question answered. Thank you. >> You're welcome.
>> Thank you, Mr. Brad Street. All right. Um is there anybody else in the public that would like to speak? Oh, yes. >> Should I go up here? >> Of course. >> Okay. >> Hello, Andrew McNelte. Um, I'm on the conservation commission, but I can't uh
discuss today because we have a quorum met. So, as a member of the public, I I guess I have a question uh one question for the board and a question for the applicant. Um, were these wetland edges peer-reviewed or did DP or anyone from the commission go on site and ensure
these edges were accurate? >> We did go on site. >> We went on We did go on site. I don't know about the wetlands, but we did go on site about the other review. >> So, >> so that was a question for >> I don't know if that was for the board or the applicant. Sorry.
>> Oh, no. That's okay. That's okay. Make sure you can hear us. >> So, there was no wetland scientist peer review for this project. >> It's just new. >> I think did Dell had the wetland scientist? >> There's um Goddard Consulting did all the wetlands um review and reporting. The the commission didn't ask for peer
review on it. Um, but Garter did all the all the wetland delineation and flagging in the full wetlands report. >> Hired by the applicant. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> That's just a concern of mine. They don't look quite right out there, but nothing we can do about it at this point, I don't think. Um, and then a
question for the applicant would be if there was any alternatives analyzed for different locations for those parking areas to bring them away from the from the wetland further to get out of that buffer zone. because it looks like there's plenty of room right along the
building there. >> So we so we we actually went through um I would say seven iterations for the concept phase that was that was studied very intimately and the if we would have made it thin and narrower we would have cut cut down a significant amount of the
the parking spaces. Um hence why it had to get wider to utilize that space to make it um not only efficient for parking but to get the the capacity and the amount >> um to facilitate the the proposed development. But that was was definitely
um investigated because obviously if we could get into a project without going to conservation commission then we're a win but it was just not feasible for this specific project. >> Okay, great. Thank you. All right. Do you have any additional comments or questions?
>> Not me. >> Okay. >> So, I think we're ready to make a motion. >> Are you ready to make a motion, gentlemen? >> Yep. I'll go ahead and make the uh first motion. Where the heck is it here? So, I make a motion to close the public
hearing for 54 Cherry Hill Drive, DP number 14-1452. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I'll go ahead and do the second one. Make a motion to grant a waiver to allow work on the 50 foot no build zone for
50oot Cherry Hill Drive, Dumber 14-1452. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I. >> Somebody else. Uh, can someone make a motion to issue an order of conditions for 54 Cherry Hill Drive, D14-1452?
>> I'll make a motion. Motion to issue an order of conditions for 54 Cherry Hill Drive, DP number 14-1452. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I I >> All right, Danell, you're all set.
>> Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, board members, and thank you, Emily. Have a good evening. Thank you. >> Thank you, Danell. All right, one second. It's a busy night. We're on to number four. Let's see. That's center. Okay.
So item number four for tonight is a notice of intent for 32 Center Street D file number 14-1453 and the applicant is Admir Tuska. >> Hi everyone, my name is Sadimir Tosska
and I am the owner of 32 Center Street in uh Denver's. Emily, can you please open the >> Yep. Sorry, there's a little little delay on my computer here. Sorry about that. Oh, >> so I used to have a pool in the back of the house and uh I used to have a double
parking but now center street is becoming really crowdy and really traffic. So the tenants are really having hard time to back up. So I decided to close the pool. So that's the location of the pool. You see it? So I
decided to close because that's the driveway right now. It ends up to that point. So there are like two tendon parkings for both units. In order to get in and out from the center street, you park and you back up. The center street
is becoming very crowdy and it's they're messing my front yard. So what they're doing, they're backing up on the grass to get into the center street, which I don't like that because they're ruining the whole front facade of my house. And Emily can show pictures of that if you
guys want to see. So what I decided I was like since I have the pool which is in previous area I decided to close the pool and make uh four parking spot where the pool is. So apparently I'm taking the in previous area in previous area. >> So the the current parking spots
>> it's right here. >> Are those going to be removed? >> Going to be the entry back. So it's going to remain a driveway. So that's going to be one, two, three parking, but they can back up and come and facing the center street instead of backing to the center street.
>> Right. I understand that part. Uh with their parking now is seems like a rather large areas. You're going to remove any of that. Uh >> I'm just going to just keep it the same just to enter in and out. >> So bottom line, you're you're pretty much filling the pool,
>> correct? >> Right. >> Yes. Filling like up to that point is existing. I'm I'm still going to make it new. It's asphalt, but it's going to be all new asphalt. So, I already demo because this was all concrete. So, I already demo the whole concrete to fill
the pool and all that. So, then I'm going to make asphalt for for parkings. >> So, you've already taken down the pool or >> correct. I did that called the pool. >> And is there erosion control out around the >> No, so that was taken down. Um, this is
an after the fact filing for the pool. Once we found out about the pool, I reached out to Mr. and he stopped work until we could get um approval from. >> So there is no erosion control. >> I'm not sure if you have erosion controls up yet or no on the propert. They are on the plan, but I don't know if you've put any up yet on the property. >> No, there are uh two bearing walls in
the back. >> Oh yeah. Yeah, there's two big retaining walls along the back too. >> So there are two existing bearing walls in the back that are that I mean protecting the pool because pool is like you know it was like 12t deep at this area and it was like about 4t in the
front. So holding all that water that was filled and pretty much like to hold four cars there is going to be much lighter than holding like tons of tons of water there. So I'm not removing the bearing walls. So pretty much those remaining the same
two bearing walls which are at a different level. I think the difference this is about 2 ft of the floor. I mean two feet of the back and this I don't know if you can read it. 44 45 46
>> Oh yeah, it looks like it's about 45 ft there. Yeah, 45 46 47 >> like a two feet of a different but there are two bearing wall. One is like 2 ft high and the other one is like 2 feet higher than that one like approximately >> but I'm not removing the bearing walls. Bearing walls will remain. I'm just
closing. >> What is this the the third that bold line? It's kind of an upside down U shape. >> No, the upside down U. >> Go back a little bit. Oh, that's the erosion control. >> Oh, this. >> Yes.
>> Oh, the civil engineer uhh provided that to put a straw wedion silk socks. >> Correct. Correct. So, he suggested that. So, I'm just >> So, you're just showing them on the >> Yeah. >> No, I'm not just showing. I'm going to do what what he tells. >> No, but I mean that's what we're looking
at. Yeah. >> The civil said like uh >> you need that like Okay. Right. What what's the current material for the you know in the picture you show you have the where the pool was to the left of it is the driveway.
>> What's there now? >> All these >> No. No. Uh where you you go up your driveway now. Right. Yeah. There's your driveway. You go up further. Right there. What's that material currently? >> Uh that is like earth. >> Just grass and dirt. Okay. >> Earth. Not grass. The grass actually all
this area is grass. That was like a I don't know like mulch if I can call it but it was like earth. So the only that I'm adding is like the connection from the driveway to the to the parking. >> Well, you're basically so you're
removing the pool which was impervious. >> Yes. >> But you're adding >> impervious >> additional per impervious on the left side for the parking. Have you given any thought to making it a permeable driveway surface like we spoke about
with the previous applicant? >> I haven't thought of that because that's going to uh I haven't thought of that to be honest with you because I was like under the impression taking all that concrete down because all this area I know you're saying I'm adding there but I'm giving
the space there because it was up to here for a concrete all concrete which I already demo a whole concrete there. So >> like going further further out from the buffer zone and all I'm adding the connection of the driveway with the
parkings. >> No, I completely get why you're doing it. I understand that. >> Um so do we happen to know what is the difference then? Do we have like a metric on what's now impervious? >> That I don't know. >> No. Oh, okay. Okay.
I >> mean, I don't have any other >> although it looks like on the plan the proposed uh buffers on work, it looks like it's 1,410 square ft um of work that's being proposed in that buffer zone. >> And what was it before? Sorry. What was it? >> Uh 1,410
square feet >> and and now it's >> Oh, that's was showing on the plan is 1,410. >> Okay. But we don't know what it was before. >> I'm not sure. Oh, >> okay. Any other questions?
>> No questions. >> And I already got approval from the historic uh HDC because I have to get approval from them as well to put asphalt. So they already approve it of uh last week. >> What is the historical uh commission's
uh jurisdiction is the house? They have jurisdiction on the asphalt putting asphalt. >> So I had to go through their meetings. >> They have jurisdiction over >> uh to put an asphalt. That's what they told me. So I went through their meetings. >> So not just the structure, the actual
>> Yeah, they have jurisiction on the asphalt. Yes. >> So I already got their approval last Thursday. I guess my only comment would be are there ways to kind of reduce the new impervious that's going in?
That's my main looking at this. I understand why you're doing it. Um are there opportunity, you know, if you were to take what you saved in the pool and I can't I can't see the numbers yet. what you saved for the pool, removing the pool. What if that was sort of
what you ended up adding to the driveway? Do you see what I mean? That's my only concern in looking at this is that there's just there's a lot new lot of lot more new impervious material so close to the wetlands. I mean I can have other the critical
zones but he's outside really in >> this level like you're seeing from the top is like about 48. It's like about 4 feet >> up >> from the back cuz over here you can see it's like 44 ft versus up here where 48
different is like 4. >> And I do apologize if you don't mind. Um it's the number that you guys were looking for commission. Um I just I don't know how I missed it on the plan before. The increase in impervious um is a total of 460 ft. >> Yeah, >> that's the total increase. >> Yeah, sorry. >> Right on the plan. It's about 25%.
>> Do you have a Do you have a water problem on the property? >> There's no limit. >> No water problem. >> No, I haven't had any water. I mean, there is a sub pump to be honest with you, but since I bought it like four or five years ago, >> I never seen any water. No, there is a
sub pump again, but I never seen any water there >> besides some damages because it's all wood material. >> I have no further questions. Thank you. >> One quick question since we're getting on the impervious the increase of it.
Where does the water go? >> Uh where it was going before. >> No, what direction does it? It's like so as you see the topo it goes down this way over here is like the bearing wall. It's
not like much of a land but I think because the top of all this area is grass. So the top of goes like you can see like 48 47 so goes this way >> on that. And I'm leaving again here. I'm leaving about like uh I will say like
seven eight ft before the asphalt ends. So that going to drain there like for if you're concerned about the asphalt. >> Okay. >> So I'm not going it's got a ways to go before it gets to the wetland. So it's going to percolate through the the ground. >> Correct.
>> So I'm not going like all the way to the bearing wall. So I'm living like I mean I'm assuming I'm an architect but looking at the plan like typically this is 9 ft by 18 ft for parking. So it looks like 9 ft to me but again
just looking at the scale of that. So 9 ft before hitting the bearing wall the asphalt is going to stop. Good, >> Emily. >> Where um Andrew, is he able to come in and comment on this one?
>> Um if he has any questions. >> Yeah, I just wanted to open that up to you where this is something new. >> Yeah. No, no, I I have nothing to say about this one. >> Okay. Um let's see. Anybody else have comments or thoughts? >> No. Okay. Um thank you for presenting.
Now we have to open. If there's anyone in the public who would like to speak >> property next door, >> of course. Yeah. >> I'm sorry. Please just go to the microphone. Thank you very much. And then we'll have Mr. Brad Street. >> Yeah. Ernie Frasier.
>> Uh me and my sister own 30 Center Street. >> Um there's a fence. You know the fence. How close to the fence are you going to come with the hot tub? >> With a When you build the parking lot,
>> the wooden fence, how close you going to come to that with the the hot top? >> It's like a I don't know, you didn't put the dimension, but this is the highway. So, what I'm doing pretty much I'm going to connect it to the bearing wall. So, from
that point to the bearing wall there. So, this way I'm going that way. So, I >> So, is it coming right up to the fence? >> Uh, no, it's not right up to the fence. It's going to connect to the bearing wall where the bearing wall ends. It's going to connect to the existing highway connect to the very >> So how much how much room is going to be
between the fence and the hot top >> put the dimension there I don't you know I can't assume but I will say about like 2 ft but again just a concern >> is the dimension so I can provide you that information.
>> Mhm. And then the existing driveway you're not making it wider. existing highway like I said this remain the same it's going to pick a point of the existing connect to the existing uh bearing wall >> but the existing driveway will remain
just the same as it is it's not going to it's going to just take the existing off >> they have like a little um they built a wall they put the fence on the other side of the wall so you're going to have the the concrete the hot
ttop is going to go right to that wall that the little wall they built. And then the >> There is a There is a I think it's like 6x6 PT. It's not like a wall. >> Yeah. >> Just have like a 6x6 PT which is like nailed on the ground. That's going to remain there. That's not going to be
removed. >> Mhm. >> Unless you know if it's like really damaged or if it's like I don't know when they remove the terminals here, I will replace it. But again, I don't want to already spend more to it. So I will
keep the same uh 6x6 that are nailed to the ground. >> Mhm. >> So those are not going to be removed. >> Mhm. >> And the pool already has been I don't know if you have seen it but the pool is already being filled. >> I've seen it. Yeah. >> So is the is the hot top going to go
down beyond the building? You know the the addition you have on the back of the house where the wood is. There's a hot top going beyond that like further down than like the wood. >> So this is where the building ends. >> Okay.
>> And this is existing concrete patio. >> Okay. >> Um >> Oh, so you're going way down back. >> So it's going there. So that's where this is finished. It's going like >> to the mic here. >> So I'm accommodating only for parking. So the driveway is going to end up there.
>> The pool like this is the existing pool. So used to end up there. So, I'm going like I mean further in for the parking. >> That's quite a ways down. That's quite a ways out in the yard. >> Yeah. >> I don't know if you seen the front of
the house, but it's becoming like really disable. >> I've seen it. >> I don't appreciate that as a >> homeowner they're doing. They're ruining. >> I hear you. And I want to maintain the front plant grass and kind of let them parking here and leave the driveway
empty. >> Well, hopefully the water when it's when we get heavy rain isn't all going to pour over onto my property. >> I can p it like I can talk to the and you can put it like as a request if you want >> because that's the thing because sometimes we get heavy rain.
>> Yeah. >> So I don't want to be flooded out on my property. >> Yeah. I can ask. So I can ask the asphalt. I'm using action pad. I already put it out. >> So I can ask him like to like >> pitch it that way since I have like more of a setback.
>> So I can and again the >> that would be good because I don't want to get flooded out any more than we already are. >> Yeah. The board can put that as a request. So they can he can pitch it that way. So the water can go in that direction. >> That's again it has to go somewhere so I can request it with a with a
>> Yeah, that would be good because you know I have a question for staff in connection with the discussion they just had. >> Um is there any requirement for storm water permitting for what he's doing? >> Not for this. No, the engineering comment so that the no further permits
um from engineering were required. >> Okay. But that did go before >> Yes. Yep. Engineering reviewed all the >> engineering. Yeah. >> Yep. >> All right. So you have it. Are there any other boards that need to rule on this? Well, it's I adam mayor you may know
it's I believe you needed historic district commission and you need conservation as far as I know you don't need any other approvals from town but >> like I got the HDC >> I got the HDC per last Thursday they already approved it >> so it's only you guys
>> okay >> and and we do always include in our orders of conditions to have the applicants check with every department too just to be 100% Thank you, Mr. Brad Street. Danville Bradshin one. I thought I heard that the pool
itself was filled in. If water goes into the pool, will the water soak into the ground and then leave the pool or is it going to slowly build up through the filling of the pool so that uh
>> it's gone right? It might go over the edge and then maybe towards the uh neighbor's yard. Or did they put ho did you put holes in the bottom of the pool of the pool so that any rain that gets trapped in there will
soak in and leave the area? >> Yeah. The guy who did the >> Okay. Okay. >> Yes, I can explain. So the one who did uh the demo of the pool when he came he he already suggested to me because the quote was pretty high and I was like why is this
high because you're just demoing. So he was like I know I'm demoing but I have to open holes in the pool because if the water sunks there it's going to ruin your asphalt. By the time you put an asphalt it's going to sink down if I don't open this pool. So let the water drain. So he did all that. What remains
when you demo the pool? What remains? The the floor of the pool. >> Just the slab of the pool. >> How thick is that? >> Oh, it was pretty thick. It was like 12. And this section was like I will call it like
like 10 ft cuz I jumped there. >> It's like really steep there. And over here was like around four feet. So from four was getting to 10 in the back. It was like slot. >> Yeah. >> So that's the wall. It was like all
buring wall around it. So you open holes all around the the >> But the walls are gone. >> Correct. No, not gone. They're there, but he opened holes because they were like >> So the pool's still there. You just opened holes to correct all the flow of water. >> Correct. >> And filled it with gravel.
>> Uh he filled it with concrete and gravel. Correct. And the action paving was suggesting who's going to do the the asphalt? He was suggesting steel to open up a little bit and put some more gravel to it because again he don't want me to
call him back >> apparently and he suggested to put more gravel. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> Any other questions, guys? >> I didn't realize they leave the whole pool. I think we've had this come up before, but
>> yeah, it's it's very rare that we have pool removal. Um, but yeah, once in a while it comes up. >> All right. >> So, we ready for motions? >> Yeah, I don't have there's no one remote and so I don't have anyone online. So, long as the public is all set. Oh,
there's one. >> We have one more. >> Yeah. >> Hi, Jane Burn 34 Center Street. As a quick question about the driveway, I live this nightmare of the cars.
You think four parking spaces will be adequate? I didn't know if there'd be room to park two in part of the existing driveway and leave a spot for them to get back. >> Yeah. Yeah, please just go to the microphone. Thank you. >> So, it used to be existing used to be
two tandem parkings, >> right? So, I'm getting rid of those and I'm putting four parkings in the back and this is going to be in and out driving. >> So, you're anticipating there'll only be two cars on each floor. >> Correct. Yes. No, I agree. I I went through eviction and trust me,
>> I Oh, I know. I went away. I came home, they were gone. >> I know. I went through eviction and now I'm renovating the unit as I don't know if you notice work there, but I'm renovating the first floor. >> Soon as I face your house when I park, I see it all the time. >> Yeah. They used to they used to park a lot of cars because I was going through
eviction. The way to piss me off is like parking the car in the front, parking the car in the back. They destroyed the whole property. >> They did. >> I again I'm damaged here because in two years I didn't collect rent. So now they're gone and I'm renovating the unit
and I'm doing all this renovation there. But I agree with you there were plenty of >> So the gentleman on the second floor is staying because he's the one that had all the cars out. >> Correct. He the police came there cuz he was having cars which I wasn't aware >> just keep this under conservation used
car lot >> I register car the police called me and he was like if you take don't take those out I will bring you to court which I was like why don't you go can we get back on track here >> I know it's important >> I'm just concerned >> I'm just explaining
>> I live right next door there has been times 14 cars Yeah, >> like there'll be two or four out front and they were just everywhere. So, you can imagine. >> Yeah, we understand that. But we have people waiting to move forward. So, I'm not upset. I just You guys can talk
maybe afterwards or Yeah. Yeah. >> Just to honor everybody's time. Thank you. >> All right. Sorry about that. >> Oh, that's okay. No apologies. >> So, I'll make a motion. >> Yes. >> Close the public hearing. >> Let's just make sure there's no >> Oh, is there anybody else?
>> We're good. Okay. >> That was the one. Um, I make a motion to close the public hearing for 32 Center Street. I got the right one. Yeah. 32 Center Street, D number 14-1453. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I.
>> And I'm on a roll. I'll make a motion to issue the order of conditions for 32 Senate Street, DP number 14-1453. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second it. In favor? >> I. >> Thank you, everyone. Thank for your time. >> All right. Thank you. Adam, I'll be in
touch with next steps and paperwork for you, too. Thank you. All right. Thank you. So, now we're moving on to item five. >> Moving up the street. >> Yep. >> Moving on. >> 267. Yeah.
>> 267. All right. All right. Um, our item number five is a notice of intent for 267 Center Street, D file number 14-1454.
And the applicant is John Lacroy. >> LCroy. Apologies. It's >> John. Peter, that's John Dick. Remember big. >> Good evening. >> For the record, John Dick. I live in
Salem. I worked for Hancock for 35 years and retired a long time. >> We know you, John. >> I don't remember the last time I was before this commission. I think it was when I was working. >> We have a site here. It's an interesting
situation. There is no wetland mapped on this site. D doesn't call it a wetland. The National Wetland Inventory doesn't call it a wetland. The soils are not wetland soils. But you go out there and there's
skunk cabbage out there and there is overland flow. There is surface flooding. We're in a drought right now. In fact, we're in a critical drought and there's water at the surface. 1980 I actually worked for the town. I
had the last aerial too flown. That aerial too shows a little bit of grading out near Center Street. But this entire pad here all happened sometime in the early 80s.
Every every database I've seen since that 1980 too shows that Phil. The DP photographic database goes back to the mid9s. I haven't yet determined what year in the 90s it was, but at that time
there was already this pad of fill on the site at the uh at the distal edge out near the wetland. It's 4 to 8 feet high and it's building rubble. It's tools, refrigerators, refrigerators and
televisions and pieces of wood and a lot of dead trees. Along comes Mr. Lroy, buys the lot. The lot was, by the way, was subdivided out in 1970.
Uh, he buys the lot and they begin clearing the site to develop a house. Uh there's no indication that there's any wetland there. So they're basically moving forward clearing a lot of invasive trees,
clearing a lot of just brick and granite. Uh somebody got a lot of brick out of this site. They put it on a pallet and somebody came and took it, which they told me first. Uh so I went out and I flagged it.
Out here in the street, there's a whole array of catch basins, and the town's drainage mapping shows two separate pipes pointed toward the site. The town records don't show any evidence
of what size those pipes are or where they go or when they were put in. There are no plans. There is no easement for any of this drainage. We went out and surveyed it and the indications that the surveyor found on the ground is that everything goes down
to 114. That it in fact if it ever drained across the street, it does not now drain across the street. That said, uh there is definitely evidence of street drainage just coming down the hill. There's no curb. There's no
sidewalk and flowing into the site. So this whole stretch in here from A1 through A6 or seven is a drainage way. It's a it's a wetland in name only. It does obviously
have running water in it on occasion whenever it rains. Center Street drains into it. But uh really the core wetland is in the back of the lot. The back half of the lot is skunk cabbage spice bush. It's uh it's a pretty healthy little
wetland and I suspect that it's fed by other street drainage coming in from the east. That said, uh to slope is edge of wet to a greater or lesser degree all the way around the site. The existing condition
throughout the no disturb zone and throughout the no build zone is altered. It's filled. We're proposing a house. The House has a footprint that places it both in the no disturb and in the no build. What I'd like to stress tonight
because that's the the best fleshed out part of the filing at this point is what we propose to do for mitigation. Uh nobody wants to live on a rubbish pad. The surface has been cleaned up. The invasive vegetation on
the level part of the lot has been cleared. There's a lot of invasives. There's a lot of dead trees embedded in that slope and it's fairly steep. So, we're proposing a two-fold operation. Uh,
first of course would be to put in a straw wle, probably a silt fence too at the toe of slope right at the edge of the wetland. Then to grade out the slope, it's right now it's a one to three throughout most of the site. I'd go to at least one to four, maybe one to
five in places and remove all of that delotterious material. Regrade to a gentler slope, loom it, seed it, plant it with transitional plants. It's not wetland planting because it's not a wetland. It's a
buffer zone. But we can do witch hazels. we can do, you know, your whole suite basically of upland shrubs and that'll replace frankly a lot of Norway maple, a great deal of bittersweet. There's bittersweet out there as big round as my leg.
There's uh a couple of very interesting new invasives that aren't listed by the state of Massachusetts yet, but they're coming in like gang busters here. And uh they're not on the list yet, but they're invasive. I do have some I I have some wonderful
invasive porn. If you'd like to see it, I I can make you a set of prints of photographs of all of the >> prime offenders. There's about six good pictures. Uh the total area we're talking about in the no disturbed
buffer, that's here to here, 35 ft, is approximately 11,000 square feet. That's a quarter of an acre. The intrusion upon the no disturb is approximately 220 ft. And because that's
a roof, there would be an additional disturbance surrounding that area where we would do recharge of roof runoff. This is not going to be a downspout situation. This is going to be a a drip line. the uh
the flat part of this site. There's a very little level area, here, and here. A lot of that is going to be taken up by regrading. When we start at the bottom of the slope and we go to a one to four,
the slope is going to extend further toward the limit of the no disturb. So, effectively, most of the no disturb will be slope. Then there'll be a level yard. At the edge of that level yard, right at the margin of the no disturb zone, I'm
proposing cedars, uh, evergreens of various types, native, all native plantings, all upland plantings. Again, because this is not a wetland. And that said, uh, we're below threshold on alteration both in the no disturb and
in no build. We are frankly altering the entire no disturb zone. All 11,000 square feet of it right now is pieces of concrete and dead trees and invasives.
Uh that's our tradeoff. That's if you will the carrot the stick is there's a substantial house going on the site. What I'd like to do is to get the commission out there, give you some sense of what's been done, uh, how this
came to be. There was no enforcement action because there was no mapped wetland. There was no reason to enforce anything. And all of this filling arguably took place before even the state had regulations. We wrote them in 83.
So that's my story. And uh whenever you folks are free and it's not pouring, I'd like to I don't care if it pours. I don't mind at all. >> Take a look at this. >> He walks through water. >> Absolutely. So I just have just one question. How did I mean it was
interesting in the beginning of your talk there. You said there was there is no mapping at all showing any of this as wetlands. How did it come up that there's maybe wetlands? I'm just How did this >> builder called me? >> Okay. >> Yeah. He was discussing it. I I think he
discussed it with Emily first. >> Yeah. The the town uh the town GIS had a blue line on it that >> we were like, "We don't know. We're not entirely sure what this is, but >> there's a blue line, >> but it looks like there is something." So, we suggested to get a wetland scientist out there to take a look.
>> According to the mapping, it runs parallel to the toe post, which >> So, John, how did um how are you going to determine the footprint for the the home? I mean, is that likely to shift as you go through the plot and decide what's going on?
>> We got a pretty solid design at this point. Uh, we we discussed back before we even got this building on the site. The reason you got this plan at the last minute was we were looking at the possibility of rotating it 90 degrees and putting the address on 114.
>> Yeah. >> It didn't help. In fact, it's worse if we do that because there's a 30 foot front set back. So it 10 ft. >> How did you know where to place your flags? I mean, did you do soil testing or just visual on the planting? >> Oh, the vegetation tells the story.
>> Yeah, >> it's a it's a well- definfined line. It does not look like a lot of wetland was filled. What probably occurred was that this filling took place well we know that this
filling took place before there were rigs before there was a definition of wetlands if you will. >> Uh it's pretty obvious that there has to have been some filling because it would be a fantastic coincidence if the fill stopped right at the edge of the wetland
but it's gone essentially. >> So was there a building there before or so? No house. As far far as I can determine, there's never been a house on this lot. Used to be a used to be twice the size. Back in back in 1970, the uh the lot
here to the north to the Yeah. the northeast uh was split and it was all at prior to the 1970s. I don't know how big the parcel was. It was probably farmland at one time. Yeah.
>> Thank you. So, I'd like to go out. >> Yeah. >> When When you're ready for us. So, you're not ready for us yet, right? >> Oh, well, yeah. I'm ready for it. >> You are. >> So, a site visit. >> Yep. >> Yeah. What do you guys think? >> Let's pick a hot day. Let's pick a nice
hot day. Yeah. >> A hot day. >> Um Emily, could we set up a site visit? >> Yeah, there's anyone from public that wants to talk, but yes, I can. I'm happy to coordinate public. Yep, I can definitely do that. Do we have any questions or anything
other than what we've talked about? >> No site visit for us. All right. Um, is there anybody from the public that would like to speak? >> And nobody online, right? >> I don't have anyone online. Okay. >> Um, and do we just want to put in for
the site visit for us? >> Just make a motion. >> Yeah. >> Oh, go ahead. make a motion to continue the public hearing of 267 Center Street. Oops. I'm sorry. Oh, >> of course. I just want to be a little backdrop. I love to speak.
>> John Lacroy. Um 35 Green Street Lane Review Mass. So, I'm going to be living there. My wife Susan and my my daughter and her husband, the two little kids. So, we have a lot of personal involvement in this. Not a developer, the cell. So, we're going to be there.
That's going to be our final resting place, I guess, right? So, it's important. You never know. >> John's done a great job. So, I just want to give you a little bit of information on that. Um Okay. >> And Emily's been great, too. So, >> um >> So, she'll float some dates out and we'll come out. >> Great. Thank you.
>> Yeah, that's the first step for us is to see the site visit and then get a sense of where everything's at um and all that. >> But, yeah. >> Did Did this get continued? Did you? >> Well, I have I didn't Now we'll start again, but um >> so we're at the public comments have
ended. So I'll make a motion to continue the public >> continue the sorry to continue the public hearing at 267 Center Street D number 141454 to June 11, 2026. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I.
>> So we're good. >> Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Oops. Is it reading the right one? the wrong one. >> All right. >> Good to see you, John. >> All right.
>> So, we're moving on to item number six. >> Oh. Oh, really? >> Um, a notice of >> I knew a lawyer you came in were here with Marblehead the last time you were here, >> Michael. Excuse me. We got to keep us moving. >> We have time on the site.
>> Let's go. Okay. >> You tell them, Mary. >> All right. Um item number six for the notice of intent for 28 Brentwood Circle D file number 14-1455. The applicant is Greg Maynard.
So, uh, Greg Maynard, 28 Brentwood Circle, here for a notice of intent to do a, uh, an addition that encroaches about 4 and a half% on the 15 foot no, uh, no build buffer.
>> All right. Could you just let us know what you're planning on doing? Just kind of give us a sense of what's going on. Yep. Uh post edition is back here in the front a little bit. Um this particular addition back here is still
focused in the middle by 4 and a half%. Can >> can you just point out the I'm the red line is no disturb, >> right? >> The yellow line is no build. >> No build. Yeah. >> And the other yellow line is 100 foot >> 100 foot by foot.
>> Okay. >> Okay. >> So part of the addition and part of the deck are within the 50 foot. >> Yeah. 4 and a half% of the uh allowed 20%. >> Mhm. see it there. >> And this work is all pending. It hasn't
started yet. >> Correct. >> Okay. Good to see some people wait. I know. >> And there's no work in the 35 ft zone. >> No. >> No. >> Yeah. >> And the proposed addition is just Can you just describe it a little bit to get an idea?
>> I I'm sorry. I can hardly I'm sorry. But what's your addition in one level, two levels? >> It's all uh it's all single level. the single um it's a 900 square foot ranch that's existing right now and the back is going to be a new bedroom and that's all single
level and uh living room we're going to pull out six feet to just expand that a little bit. >> Is it going to have a foundation as well? Will you put in a foundation? >> Yeah. >> Is the front edition within the 100 foot jurisdiction line? >> Yes. >> Looks like
>> the existing is the addition out in front too. I think it's probably 100 foot. >> Yeah, the front one is too 10. Okay, >> questions. >> I don't have any questions. No, >> I'm okay with it.
>> I have no questions. >> So, I'm granting a waiver that >> does he have a number now? Yeah, the government today. >> Yeah, but we haven't designed it. It's on the front. >> There some other projects when they they ask for a waiver, they're usually offering us some sort of mitigation somewhere else on the property. Have you
considered that >> mitigation? One particular representative that comes in front of us, he always offers to build a u >> again I can't hear. Can you I'm >> one of the representatives that comes in front of us when he's asking for a waiver, he usually offers something like
a pollinator garden. Oh, I'm sorry. What? >> Pollinator garden. Just, you know, a flower bed that the bees like uh just we just like to see some sort of mitigation when we're granting a waiver. So, just I need you to consider something along those
lines, please. >> What he's saying is if you're coming into a no disturb or a no build, >> Yeah. >> what what would you give us in light? Would you do something on your property? um a planting of some sort.
>> I can plant I can put shrubs and stuff out back. I don't I don't I mean what would you what would you want? I mean I it's not >> um there's plenty of >> what's back there now >> back here at the wetlands there's a whole tree line and everything like that
and then it's all notweed and into the swamp that it butts uh in the car park >> into car park. So, um, you know, there's no right now. I mean, I mean, there are some shrubs in the back of the house that are that are existing and stuff like that. I mean, I
don't I don't >> How about I mean, how about your roof drainage? How does that work? >> The roof drainage right now just um it's just on downspouts and goes onto the ground >> onto the surface. >> Yeah. >> And for the addition? >> Before the addition. Yeah.
>> Will it be the same that the plan is the same thing? >> Um, yeah. I mean, I can I can put it in a stone trench on the addition, you know. Um, >> where would you run that? >> It's um >> where would you run the stone trench?
If you just show me on the >> Well, the way the the way the addition would be right here, I mean, the the roof runoffs over here and over here, right? And then it would be the same here and there. So, uh, if you put the stone trench here and there, they could
do 18 inch wide by a foot deep stone trench and have it drain into that. I mean that's I mean but basically it was a good question because the idea is is that as you use that space now is currently water can make its way through and settle into the the
>> well there is a I mean as the space is now I mean the on the back of the house here from here and um I would say about 3 ft there's a an existing um three seasons porch that's already draining
out onto it. So really what I'm adding on for runoff for the house is going to be about 3 or 4 feet by the width of the addition which >> I think it's like six feet I mean uh 20 20 ft line. >> That's but basically and it's half
you're saying that you're actually going to be it will be half the amount that we're seeing here which is I think is a good thing if I'm reading this correctly be 210 square feet of impact >> within the um within the 50 foot. It's 210 ft of impact. >> Yeah. The new construction
>> for the new construction. >> Oh, I see. Because the the current it may be outside of the 50 ft. >> Yes. >> Okay. I see. Okay. >> I mean, but the point is just is are there ways because there there will be some additional water that's making its way not making its way through the surface. >> Well, he's proposing the stone trench.
>> The stone trench. Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Does that have to be altered on his plans? >> Yeah. Yeah, we would need to see that on a plan. And the surface of your proposed patio is >> It's not a patio. I mean that's um it's
a proposed deck 12 by 12. >> Okay. And what would be the surface underneath the deck? >> Question alone. >> No. Armyable. So the water's just going to filter in. Good. >> Um is there anybody are we good for
comments here? >> No. Uh, is there anybody in the public who'd like to speak? Yep. >> Mark Zuber at nine Glendale Drive, which is just down the street. And this is a one-story ranch.
>> Yeah. >> Jimmy George's old homestead. Billy Clark was across the street. That whole area was the culde-sac that con
confined the end of Glendale Drive and after that Brentwood was built. So this is adjacent to and impacted by Endicut Park, the swamp that's back
there. So the thing is the drainage has been going down into that water uh retainage area that's surrounding the wonderful Endicut Park because I think we all
appreciate it. And the thing is to preserve that you're already that area is built out. The thing is that this is a small expansion of the structure itself
to accommodate the growing family. Mhm. >> Now, we've had a lot of uh buildouts on Brentwood and on Glendale, and they have all been accommodated
well, and they all preserve the swamp land in Endicut Park, which is our backyard. So, I think we all appreciate what that situation is all about. So this little
uh expansion and uh is not very significant and it does serve the families that we have in our area. >> So you're in favor? >> Absolutely.
When have I been not in favor? >> No. This is this is something that needs to be done and I think you're going to see more of that coming. >> Expansion. Yeah. >> Okay. Uh there's one other thing. I hate to bring it up, but there's a path
that's supposed to go to Endigan Park inside the wetlands, and that has been abandoned by the town. So, I may be moving to uh get that reinstated because that's our access to
Endicott Park from the back door. >> So, thank you for listening. This is good. Uh, this is a good project. >> Thank you. Does Dampers have a trail committee? >> Yes. >> Yeah. So, that might be something to contact is the trail committee because
they might come out and do that. >> The Boy Scout already tried. >> Uh, Mr. Brad Street, did you have something? >> Okay. Brad Street on always has a question. >> I've learned you
>> didn't build Brad Street. My only uh question was is the addition going to be a slab or a foundation as such and will that affect the gez the flow of uh the water off the uh building? Is that for
you folks or is that something I should be asking the planning board? You have to have erosion controls, too. >> You said it was going to have a foundation. You You already said it was going to be a foundation, I believe. >> Yeah. >> Doug foundation. >> Well, I I understand a foundation is a
gener generous term, whether it's a slab or a >> Oh, what's the addition going to sit on? Footings or >> um it's going to be a a full foundation, but regardless, that has no impact whether it's a slab or a full foundation. And it's got nothing to do
with the rain went off. >> Yeah. >> It's uh the roof line and everything like that. >> I think uh with excavation, we're just concerned about >> Yeah, excavation. I mean um absolutely. I mean um it I believe the uh plan showed a um
shows a straw water coming down. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good. Good. So, >> and there'll be the gravel around the outside edge to collect the rain water off the roof.
>> Yeah, I can I can do that on the um on the overhang and then obviously on the other side where the deck is. I mean, it's going to it'll have to be underneath the deck, but that's all 12 by 12 square foot, you know, area uh crushed on underneath that. So,
>> all right. Any other questions? Anybody else? You good? >> Um, just a quick second. Anyone from the public? Um, no one is raising their hand. So, no, no
online public comments that are coming up at this time. >> Move to close the public hearing. >> Yeah. Can someone make a motion? If we did you want to see the um the 18inch stone trench on the plan because if so then we would I would just ask that we keep this open until that plan is
submitted if you wanted to see that modification. If you don't and you're happy >> I will make that a condition. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> So I make a motion to close the public hearing for 28 Brentwood Circle D file number 14-454. Is that right? Or what's
>> 145? Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I I. >> And I make a motion to issue an order of conditions. >> Hold on. I forgot the waiver. >> The waiver. >> Well, we got a waiver for this. That's right. I'll make a motion to grant a waiver to all our work in the 50 foot no
build for 28 Brentwood 14-1455. >> Is there a second? >> Second. >> In favor? >> I. And I make a motion to uh to issue an order of conditions for 28 Brentwood D file number 14-1455
with the condition that the applicant uh submit an updated plan to show the trenching and gravel that he's proposed at this hearing. >> You can do that, right? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> Second. >> In favor? >> I
>> All right. You're all set. Thank you. >> All right. All right. >> Is that yours? >> It was here. I >> was a long one. >> Are we done? Are we >> Next up, we got minutes.
>> Yeah. >> Just curious. >> We need >> Oh, of course. Just curious. I'll make a motion. This is meeting before. Thanks. >> Yeah. Perfect. Love you guys. And if you can just hand me that, we'll get everything right for you. >> Pina probably knows.
>> Can we wrap up the house? Pina, >> can we wrap up the meeting with the minutes? >> Yeah, I know. I know. >> To make motions, right, Emily? >> If you're ready to vote on the minutes, then yes, please do. >> May I make a motion to accept the minutes from May May 14th, 2026? >> I second the motion.
>> Who do you live in? >> Oh, sorry. I can't. >> I'll second that motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Yeah. Emily, do we have any old new business? >> Um, next meeting is June 11th and the only thing we have on the agenda is the
continuation for 267 Center Street. >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. One other thing, Emily, >> did we get emails? There's some >> uh webinar a week from tonight that >> Oh, yeah. >> Brian, I think you sent something to him, too. >> Yes. Yep. >> So, just be aware of that.
>> And I can send out another reminder too next week about that. again two or three days. >> When is it? >> June. >> Oh, June. Yep. And I can send out another reminder. >> We need to formally adjurnn. >> We do. If you guys are ready, >> make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Second. >> In favor? >> I.
>> All right.