hear us. >> Yes. >> I don't know if we can. Yeah. >> Yep. >> Okay. >> All right. We'll try again the beginning here. >> Where are we? >> I don't think I have to. People have probably already heard the my saying my name here, but just in case just to
start off again. Um, we're here for the Danvers Planning Board meeting January 27, 2026. Um, L George, the chair, and uh, it's 7:14 p.m. I'm joined here today uh, by Gene Hartnett, our clerk. Uh,
Michael Doulus, a member. Um, just um, also I'm joined by uh, Josh Morris, uh, principal planner with the town of Danvers and, uh, Jim Sears, a member, is unable to be joining us today. So, let's begin with our agenda.
Uh, so the first agenda item, uh, this is actually going to be a request for a continuence, but I'm going to read the the agenda item. This is a public hearing for 98 Newberry Street. Uh, it's a request for site plan review submitted by T-MAR Properties LLC for property at
98 Newberry Street, map 40, lot 10 pursuant to section 4 site plan review and a waiver from section 10.3G width of access drives of the zoning bylaw. Said property is in the highway corridor zone zoning district. The
applicant is proposing to expand the existing M home park with the addition of 24 new mobile homes with associated site modifications. And it's my understanding that there is a uh request for a continuence to the
February 10th, 2026 planning board meeting. >> Josh, >> that's correct. >> Okay. Is there um um is the applicant uh present here today? >> Yes. >> Okay. Very good. Um, attorney McCann,
you were just requesting a continuence. I'm sorry. Just so we could introduce it to the since you are here. Just wanted to >> I'm here, >> of course. >> Thank you very much. My name is Nancy McCann. I'm here on behalf of the applicant and we have requested a continuence to your next meeting to
allow us time to finish up responses to the engineering department comments. >> Great. Thank you very much. Okay. Um, any questions by members of the board on the request? >> Okay. >> No. >> Can I entertain a uh can I entertain a
motion to continue the um uh continue this matter to the February 10th, 2026 planning board meeting? >> I make a motion we continue 98 Newberry Street to the February 10th, 2026 planning board meeting. >> Second. >> There's a second. Okay. So, there's a
first by Gene Hart, second by Michael Dulis. Um uh any discussion on the motion hearing? None. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. Any opposed? None. Okay, it's continued. All right. So, our next
agenda item um is a public hearing of U 200 Endicott Street. So, a request for site plan review submitted by Raising Can's Restaurants LLC for property at 200 Endicott Street, map 62, lot 5, pursuant to section 4 site plan review
of the zoning bylaw. Said property is in the commercial 3C3 zoning district. The applicant proposes a standalone restaurant with a drive-thru and associated uh site modifications. And I see the applicant is uh is here. And just so you're as you're aware as
well, we are currently we have um we have three members present today. >> Yes. Thank you very much. My name is Nancy McCann. I'm here on behalf of Raising Can's Restaurants LLC uh with regard to the property at 200 Endicott Street requesting site plan approval,
site plan review under section 4 of the zoning bylaw. With me tonight remotely, we have Melissa Brochial with Raising Canes. Uh Matt Ashley, the project engineer, is here this evening with me tonight. Uh Jason Adams, our traffic
engineer, is here remotely, as is Spencer McNichol, the project architect. Um we presented a a very full and detailed um presentation of our application back on August 12th and uh we've been very
busy since that time. Uh and we're happy to be back before you tonight. Um just briefly to summarize this project, uh Raising Canes is a uh national restaurant. We uh discussed that in some detail at the last meeting. Uh
specializing in quality chicken fingers, limited menu, chicken fingers, kleslaw, fries, uh chicken sandwich, and and that's it. They're known for their chicken fingers. And uh this is a fast food restaurant with a drive-thru that
is a permitted use by right in the C3 zoning district where this property is located. A portion of this site is located in Peodyy, but the entire building is located in Danvers and we reviewed that with you again the last
time. Um this property uh currently has a large office building, 6,64 square feet. That's an office building. Um, and we are proposing the removal of that building. There are also three
existing curb cuts. And, uh, we are proposing with the removal of the 6,600 ft building. We are constructing a new approximately 3,300 square foot, so a significantly smaller building. We're
also reducing the number of curb cuts from three curb cuts down to two curb cuts. Um and uh that was uh we made a detailed again a detailed presentation. We reviewed the entire submission package and all of the the portions of
that package. The site has been designed to fully comply with the zoning bylaw and uh all of the dimensional and density regulations as well as the submission regulations. Um in addition to the full technical review
that uh that we presented, we um we also uh provided a um a traffic um full traffic uh report as well. During that initial hearing, we were originally seeking um in addition to site plan
review, we were seeking um a uh site uh sorry a sign uh bylaw waiver slashvariance under the new signage category and I'll go through that. But we are no longer seeking that because that review was done by the board of appeals. Um we certainly appreciate the
time that the board spent um in the August 12th meeting and at the conclusion of that meeting we were left with two primarily two issues. One was signage because at that time we had applied to this board for the uh for the
zoning relief relative to the signage. And after the meeting, it was uh determined by planning staff that under the new signed bylaw, uh the board of appeals is actually the uh the uh zoning uh
agency to give us the zoning board to give us the relief that we needed and we sought and uh received our uh waiver variance from the board of appeals for the signage package. So signage is no longer before this board. That has been fully reviewed and permitted by the
board of appeals. The other item that was left, so that took that item off of the the table. The next item and and only other item that this board had was a was traffic. And although we did make a full presentation at the August meeting, this board uh at the end of
that meeting requested a third-party peer review, traffic peer review. that would be at the applicant's um cost and the ch town chose uh Howard Stein Hudson to conduct that third party peer review. Uh that peer review was extensive and
detailed. There were a number of meetings between uh Howard Stein Hudson and uh the applicants team as well as with planning staff and we have completed that peer review. you have your final
uh peer review dated um December 8th from the uh from Howard Stein Hudson. Um we'll present to you tonight the modifications to the site plan that resulted from both the engineering department review as well as the peer
review. Um we have a couple of final items to mention. We went through three rounds of comments back and forth with the engineering department and uh we have a final comment letter uh dated December 9th from the uh town
engineering department finding finding that all engineering department comments have been addressed. In addition, since our last meeting, um the Peabody planning board has issued site plan approval. The PBD Conservation
Commission has issued its order. The Danverse Conservation Commission has approved the project as well. So again, we've accomplished uh quite a bit. So, what we'd like to do, I think, um, at this point, is have our project
engineer, Matt Ashley, review with you, um, the modifications to the plans that have been made to address engineering department comments, as well uh, of course, the uh, the traffic peer review uh, comments. And so, I'll turn it over now to Matt Ashley.
>> Great. Thank you. >> Again, if you could just introduce yourself for the record, that'd be great. >> Absolutely. Matthew Ashley with Bowler Engineering civil site uh engineer for the development. Um so this picture um that Josh has put up for us is just a context again for anyone that may have
forgotten where the site is. Uh right across from the Silven Street Gril right at the intersection of Endicott and Silven on the corner, the former Fidelity building. Uh next slide, please. Uh this is just a zoom in uh again just of the lot specifically and just kind of
showing you the existing imperous area that's out there right now. Very limited uh landscaping out there and there is the river uh right uh to the rear of the site that brought us into jurisdiction uh for PBD and Danver conservation. Next
slide please. So this is the updated site plan that went through numerous um revisions um not only with Danvers but with the uh with City of Peed as well. I do say numerous revisions if you go back and
take a look at what it was before. Really not that much of a difference. Uh uh as I like to say everything that we do usually gets buried underground and that's what you're going to notice. Um, so from a site layout perspective, the biggest changes, uh, since we were here back in August, uh, is the building and
drive-thru shifted, uh, actually really just the building shifted to the plan, right? Um, I think it just about like 12 to 15 ft. Um so what that did is uh moved the driveway on Endicott Street as
far right as we could uh plan right to provide some further separation from that existing intersection out there. And that was done through the engineering department and the town's peerreview consultant for traffic as well. Um and I'll let Jason go into the specifics of the traffic. I'll just talk
about the site related features. Um, so in addition to moving that uh driveway to the right, which is a right in right out, um, Kanes is proposing an improvement to the intersection with additional striping coming through the intersection. Um, so if you're coming from Silven onto Endicott, it will
direct you onto the left side of the lane. And then there's that bare right feature onto Endicott as well. We're introducing um, some striping um, to provide a little bit of a buffer for someone that is coming out and turning right onto Endicott Street.
And addition to that, uh, on the other side of the town line, uh, down in Peodyy, uh, we worked through some driveway, uh, improvements there to further restrict or write in, write out, um, per the recommendation of their engineering department, um, police
department and fire. Um, >> excuse me, not to interrupt, just to clarify. Is that >> correct? Yep. Just trying to highlight all the differences that we've had here, just for reference. Um along with the city of Peed, we went through a full storm water peer review. Um and largest
updates there is we just got some additional soil information out there, made some slight modifications to the storm water system, uh size of chambers and outlets. Everything's basically the same, just a little more tweaks uh as the more data we got for that. Other
than that, um there was a increase in imper uh impervious surface from the adjustment. So that's always a win there. Um if you can go to the next slide please. Um so along with that uh one more sorry I think I had duplicates in there.
There we go. Um we introduced um some more uh landscaping features as well. Um so pretty robust landscaping plan um that I typically see from any type of development. Um and specifically a lot more plantings were added down in the
riverfront area. Um, and then additionally, uh, where we added some more landscape on the plan left when we shifted, uh, everything to the right a little bit there. Uh, next slide, please. Uh, and with that, I'll hand it off to
Jason just to update, uh, some of the traffic uh, review that we went through and highlight those changes. >> Thank you. >> Thanks, Matt. Can everyone hear me? Okay. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Great. Uh, Jason Adams with Bowman Consulting. Um, as was mentioned
previously by attorney McCann, we had completed the traffic impact study uh that was presented to the board back in August. Uh, we have worked through a comprehensive uh, peer review with the town's consultant HSH. Uh, they had originally prepared a peerreview letter
back in October. Uh, consisted of uh, about 12 comments with some additional uh, requests. Uh, we worked through those comments. um having a coordination meeting with uh HSH as well as uh town of Danver's planning and engineering
departments. Uh received a few additional uh comments through that process and and prepared our response uh which was submitted at the end of November. Um the crux of which is what Matt just went over uh resulting in uh
the site plan changes. But we feel that were they were all positive uh in terms of improving uh project access and safety. Um notably the moving the driveway a bit to the east away from the signalized intersection as well as some
improvements at the signalized intersection. Um if you could uh Josh, could you just go back to the I think it was sheet five. Um one one more back. Yeah. So on the the left side of of this
plan on on Silven Street, you can see the introduction of uh yield controlled movement for the northbound right turn. So vehicles coming northbound on Silven Street uh heading towards the top of the page and turning right onto Endicott Street would now be placed under yield
control. uh just doing doing what we can within the confines of the existing intersection to introduce some additional traffic control, improve visibility, uh and as Matt said, improve the the overall access of the site. Um we feel we have what we consider uh a
clean peer reviewview letter that was submitted back from HSH in December uh of of last year. um and feel as though the the improvements that that Matt and his team have been able to incorporate uh wrap up nicely uh a great
collaboration between our project team and and the town of Danverse. Uh happy to speak to anything specifically, but that's the overview on traffic. Okay, I think that's uh that's really it to present to you tonight. Um I would like
to thank um the town of Denver's planning staff, specifically Josh and his crew for uh working with us on this. There's been um a lot of uh good collaboration back and forth in responding to comments and I think we
have uh reached um a good uh no further no further comments no further action required from both the engineering department as well as the uh the peerreview consultant. Um and we're excited to move forward with this. So we'd be happy to answer any questions.
>> Okay, sounds good. Thank you, Attorney Man. turn over to the the um uh the board with any uh to turn it back to the board with any questions. This is a public hearing as well. So, if there are any questions or or comments from members of the public, we then ask for that as
well. Uh then we'll come back to the board. So, um so why don't we start with um uh with Mike Dulis. Any questions for the applicant? >> I just had a quick question about the uh vehicular circulation. I was looking at the fire truck and the WB50, I think it
was. um shown the WB50. They already show it kind of in the in the parking lot area. It doesn't show it kind of entering into the parking lot area. It's on C304 if you're looking for it. Josh, I don't know if you were. Um, I'm just trying to understand I assume it's mountable curbs is my guess for both the
firetruck and the the WB50, but I'm just trying to understand the flow of that. And then also like a delivery path and like obviously this shows them coming from the from Peabody and turning right, but if someone is coming down Endicott Street from the highway from 128, how
are they getting into the site? Are they making a Uturn at the end of the site and then turning right into the site? Just trying to understand it. >> Might be easier if I come to the board. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. >> Can you use the microphone down there? >> Which uh bottom bottom left is the WB50 and then bottom right I think is the
>> Just for minutes purposes if you can identify yourself again before Yeah. speaking. >> Uh Matthew Ashley with Bowler. Um >> W50. Yeah. >> So uh we ran a number of different scenarios depending on where the truck would come from. So, uh, if it was
coming up Silvin Street, it would enter um through here, that center island is mountable for a larger vehicle for emergency vehicles or trucks, um, a passenger car would definitely not want to go over that. Um, um, and we worked very closely with the the city of PED on
what that detail wanted to look like there. Um, so delivery specifically, um, the truck is going to come in, turn up kind of next to the side of this, uh, the building here, and then actually back down in, uh, and loading takes place, uh, right through here, uh, and
through the back door. Um, and then from there, it will pull straight out and then go right onto Silven Street. And that's kind of the the route that it would have to take. >> So, it would have to come from Silvin. So, if it's coming off 128, it's going to have to loop down towards 114 and turn around down there somewhere.
Uh yeah, I would come you I guess I'll get off by the Northshore Mall and come up that way and then come right up Silvin Street. >> Okay. >> Yep. Um >> and then a passenger car, I guess, if it's coming down Endicott Street heading west would make a Uturn to get into the
site. >> I don't Jason, you want take that one? I know you looked at this extensively with everyone here. >> Yes. Yeah, that's that's that is certainly an option that they could take a U-turn uh as part of this uh improvement. The part of the package we talked through with the town and HSH was
to introduce some additional signage to direct uh U-turning vehicles into the appropriate lane uh should they want to make a U-turn at the signal. And again, as we talked about in August, I think there's a there's a number of ways that vehicles can can navigate this depending on where they're they're coming from and
going to, but if if they were directly on Endeott Street right there, they could take a U-turn at the signal. >> Okay. And then I assume the fire truck is Damverse Fire, not Peeody or is it potentially both? >> We ran both from and coming in either entrance to navigate through and ran
even before we started planning process. We talked about that with them and got the okay on how they wanted the truck to navigate the site. >> Okay, that's all I have for questions. Appreciate the effort you guys made on this. Thanks. >> Uh Jean, any any questions at all or comments?
>> Um yeah, can you just explain a little bit more what is preventing uh a vehicle from taking a left off of Silvin Street into the lot? preventing a left onto Silven Street >> uh from Silven Street >> into the city.
>> Like is there a median or something? I know you said that it was restricted to right in right out. >> Yep. Uh so first defense is we have lots of signage there um specifically what uh the city of Peody wanted. And then these two blocks right here are raised. So
it's kind of like a mountable curb um for larger vehicles to get over like I mentioned. Um and then additionally that's kind of like scored concrete. Um so and then that right lane um we took as hard of a right as we could with this median
>> to try to prevent anyone from uh coming in and out. >> So they would have to really go out of their way to go around it plus the signage. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Um and then I think one of the things we asked for in the last meeting was if you could look at a sidewalk going around
that like sort of corner. Did Did you end up making that work? Cuz I know it stops at the crosswalk um and doesn't continue around. >> Yeah. So, the sidewalk does come up uh Silven Street up to that corner. Um and
then we did look at uh the possibility of adding something up there. Um but with the grades and where the rightway line is, it didn't seem like the appropriate feeling. Um especially it would go off into it just kind of end and bring you to nowhere. No crossing, no continued sidewalk. Uh so what does
make sense is there is an existing sidewalk that gets you across right that intersection um where we'd want pedestrians to go. >> Okay. Thank you. Uh that's it. >> Okay. Yeah. Okay. Um I have just a couple of questions just in terms of the traffic um peer review. So you meant there was no outstanding items at all
left from the traffic peer review. >> Nope. >> Correct. >> Actually if the uh I believe we have a representative from the >> Yeah. Uh Michael White with Howard Stein Hudson, the town's uh peer reviewer. >> Great. >> Uh so yeah, uh in the last round of
peerreview comments that we left, all of our uh all of the responses we received were um sufficient in our eyes and there were no further action required. >> Okay. Got it. Okay. Thank you. >> Of course. >> Good. I do have a couple of just some just follow-up questions for the
applicant just with respect to so I know um and I know as mentioned in terms of that you know in terms of your you know went through you know conservation commission both town of Danvers and city of peey um and planning board as well in terms of city of peey any um uh I know
that their area they weren't dealing with the building any any changes based upon their view. >> Um the biggest changes that we had uh were from the storm water peer review. We just ran some additional test pits and infiltration testing. Um didn't
actually update the system too much in terms of that. Uh it was just more how it was shown and what we were taking credit for. Um we did make some updates to the site driveway and PB like we talked about bulking up that detail that everyone was happy with. Um other than
that um enhanced landscaping package in the riverfront uh area. >> Okay. >> Um but other than that there really was no other um major uh updates from that process. >> Okay. Um and then just some question also I know that there has been some
change since the you know since we last saw you all with respect to um signage just because the zoning board of appeals you know uh addressed that. if you could just go and just just give a just a quick summary of of sort of the the differences we see. I understand it's
not part of our it's no longer part of our purview. Could you just give an explanation in terms of of you know of of what's you know what changed since what we what we saw back in August because I know we had a fair amount of discussion about that. >> Yes, really nothing changed. >> Um there is a freestanding sign proposed. Okay.
>> Um there are four wall signs, one on each of the facades. >> Um there is a red dog sign. Um there is a mural >> and there is a canopy sign uh that says one love. The mural and the canopy sign
based on this new um new bylaw that you have are permitted. So those didn't require anything. Okay. >> Um and the total area of signage we needed a waiver on that and we received that. Um the freestanding sign was as we
had presented it to you and uh the attached wall signs uh were uh were approved as well. So it's a similar package to what you saw. >> Okay. Got it. Okay. In terms of just sort of um sort of followup now sort of
coming from here, I know that there's a I you know uh I know you said you've worked a lot with in terms of planning staff. So what sort of is what what what are sort of follow-ups in terms of evaluating traffic and that sort of thing after this is um you know in terms
of once we've once we've gotten past once we're getting into construction and operation >> um what the applicant has proposed is uh during the first 30 days of operation we call that our initial operating period
um there will be a police detail every day from 10 to 2 and 4 to 8. >> Okay. >> For the first 30 days. >> And then there uh we are proposing a um coming back to the planning board after
a six-month period after the initial operating period. So we have the initial operating period where we'll have a police detail every day >> um for 30 days. >> Okay. Then from the end of that period, six months out, we'll come back to the
planning board and uh and review making sure that internal circulation is working well, that the and the um curb cuts are are working as designed and as anticipated. Um
and uh then if between the period of time uh at the end of the initial review period and that six-month period um we discussed with the with staff uh >> a trigger uh if there are certain things
that happen if there are too many um conflicts if you will collisions there's a trigger uh where the um police detail would be reinstated. And then we would meet within 7 days of that with planning staff, say what's
what do we need to um to look at to uh to address any situation. But um we're very confident with our traffic um design and with the traffic uh information that uh Jason Adams and his
team came up with as well as uh with the input and the review that was done by uh HSH. We're very confident that the traffic is going to work well. >> Um and we think that there are certain measures that are being put in place here that'll actually benefit over
existing conditions. And if at the six-month period as well, if there's some sort of if there's any issues that are arising and such as well, there could be an additional trigger for some additional study. Is that >> we'd come back to the planning board and the planning board would have the
ability if if need is shown uh to have an additional um study done >> uh to see if there are any issues that need to be addressed at the curbs, cuts or uh a review. Generally the the planning
board could uh request that. >> Okay. Got it. Okay. Sounds good. Any um any further questions from members of the board before I turn? This is a public hearing. So if we have any uh members of the public who wanted to
ask a question or a comment. They may. Okay. I have a very large group here on a on a on a uh on a on a snowy snowy night. Lou, I have a quick question actually. >> Do you have an anticipated construction and opening date? Just out of curiosity.
Maybe someone on the line raising canes. I'm not sure. >> That's a good question. >> Perhaps Melissa, would you like to uh to speak to that? Uh anticipated construction start and opening. >> We would like to start construction as soon as we get our approvals. Uh so the
quicker we're able to make it through building review, uh the sooner we'll get started with construction. Um we would like to start this year, so the sooner the better. in his construction time like a year. Is it less? It >> uh roughly uh I would I would target about six months.
>> Wow. Okay. It's quick. >> Thank you. >> So ideally then you'd be looking at an opening sometime sometime you know later on this year ideally I guess. Is that what you're >> Ideally. Yes. >> So yes. So construction start at at what we're targeting right now. if everything
goes as planned. Um, we're looking at a potential demo start in September. If we can get started sooner than that, we would certainly like to. >> And I'm sorry, could you mind just identifying yourself? >> Melissa Brochil with Raising Kees. >> Great. Thank you. Okay. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. Any further um Josh from town staff, anything that you wanted to point out or >> um >> for us or members of the public? No, I mean there's been a um a robust um conversation
um with the town and with the assistance of Howard San Hudson on this matter. Um you know there's always you know from raising Kane's perspective obviously they're hoping uh that they get a lot of customers and we'll be happy if they do.
Um but you know that's the traffic and circulation has always been you know concern might be too strong of a word but we're certainly interested and you know want to make sure that it's functioning and it's and it's safe right
for uh you know people entering and leaving. So you know this application as I said in my office today this was dropped off in June of 2025. So, um it's been a while, but um yeah,
um you know, the the draft decision has uh a number of conditions that we think um are appropriate um and related to traffic and circulation. So, >> um that's pretty much it from where I sit. No, I mean I just from from where
I'm sitting at least I know a concern that I had back in in August was just you know I know is the I think other members as well with respect to traffic circulation in terms of where it was in in the you know you where it was situated in terms of that corner and sort of um and the and the you know and
the prior use being a a different use. I mean it was a different in terms of it was a you know was a fidelity office which didn't you know didn't get that same and so so I appreciate all the work that went into the you know both in terms of the initial traffic study as well as the peer review and
consultations with planning staff engineering just to make sure that u and that also that there is there are some mechanisms in play so that if everything you know that you know all plans you know everything's all planned if if in if in reality there's something that you
know that comes up that there's you know I think having the police details I think the coming back at six months um you know really you know 6 months after the initial operating period just to ensure everything is is is working okay
along with a potent you know potential trigger either for some additional traffic review or if there's you know issues in terms of um in terms of the um in terms of the police detail if there's additional if there's accidents or something like that that sort of to to
rein reinstate that. So I think that that's a that's all good, you know, good safeguards and I'm happy that this is um that that's going to be, you know, part of the that'll be part of the decision. So >> thank you. >> Yep. So any further um any further
comments or questions? Okay. All right. So um then in that case we can if there's no further uh no further questions or comments on this we can uh I could entertain a motion to close the
public hearing. >> I make a motion to close the public hearing for 200 Endicott Street. >> Second. >> Very good. Motion's been made by Jean um seconded by Mike Dulis. Uh any discussion on the motion to close the
public hearing? Okay. Um, hearing none. All in favor of the motion to close public hearing, please say I. >> I. >> I. Any opposed? None. Okay. So, moving on then to the main matter. So, this is for the um for 200 Endicott Street. I
think you have a we have a draft um >> decision for site plan review. So, can I ask the clerk to to read that? >> Yep. Site plan review 200 and Nikott Street. Date of application June 12th, 2025. Date of hearings, August 12th,
2025. October 28th, 2025. No public testimony. December 9th, 2025. No public testimony. January 13, 2026. No public testimony. January 27th, 2026. Date of decision, January 27th, 2026.
The Danverse planning board finds the site plan submitted by Raising Canes Restaurant LLC for property at 200 Endicott Street Assessor's Map 62 Lot 5 to be in substantial compliance with the criteria and regulations adopted by the town. Details of the plan review can be
found on the following plans. Proposed site development plans for Raising Canes. Proposed restaurant with drive-thru location of site 200 Endicott Street, Town of Danvers, 15 Silven Street, City of Puberty. Map 30, lot 12,
map 39, lot 49, Essex County, Massachusetts. Prepared by Bowler Engineering, dated May 29th, 2025, revised to December 8th, 2025, consisting of 25 sheets. Supporting materials include elevation and a floor plan prepared by ADA architects dated
April 24th, 2025. Drainage report prepared by Buller Engineering dated May 29th, 2025. Revised to September 24th, 2025. Traffic impact study prepared by Bowman
Consulting Group dated May 21st, 2025. and a neighbor delivery truck turning exhibit prepared by Bowler Engineering dated tw December 1st, 2025. The following submission requirements have been waved. One, section 4.3.1 title
sheet existing contours at 1 foot intervals are shown on the existing condition/demolition plan C-201 and grading plan C-41. Two, section 4.3.2 site analysis plan. No site analysis plan submitted.
Existing contours at 1 ft intervals and wetland boundaries are shown on the existing condition/demolition plan C-201 and grading plan C-41. The locations of soil tests are shown on grading plan C-41 and drainage and
utility plan C-501. Three, section 4.3.3 dimensional regulations plan. A zoning dimensional table is shown on the site key note plan C-301. Four, section 4.3.4, site construction
plan. Site construction plan is entitled the site keynote plan C-301. Existing and proposed contours are shown on the existing condition/demolition plan C-201 and grading plan C-41.
Five, section 4.3.6 utilities plan. No profile of the utilities is shown on the plan. Six, section 4.3.7, landscape plan. The methods for protecting the plant material during construction is shown on the landscape notes and details
L-102. The yard setbacks are shown on the dimensional control plan C-302. Wetland boundaries are shown on the existing condition/demolition plan C-201 and grading plan C-41. A table showing the percentage of
existing and proposed impervious service is shown on the site keynote plan C-301. 7 section 4.3.8 off- streetet parking and loading plan. The off streetet parking and loading plan is entitled the site keynote plan C-301. The
construction details and type of material is shown on the construction details C-91 to C-907. Conditions of approval. The project is subject to the following conditions. One, prior to issuance of a building permit, this site plan decision shall be
recorded at the Southern Essex Registry of Deeds. Two, prior to endorsement of the site plan, the following resision revisions shall be made. A, the incorporation of the comments and/or modifications stated in the Danver Electric Division memorandum dated July
3rd, 2025. Three, the site exit onto Endicott Street shall be controlled by police detail for peak business hours from 10:00 a.m. to 2 p.m. and 4 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. every day during the first 30 days following the business opening initial
opening period and paid for by the applicant. Four, in the event that any of the following occurs. A an equivalent property damage only EPDO index greater than or equal to 108 or more at the
endott street site access and driveway within 6 months of the following following the initial opening period. B more than three collisions at the Endicott Street site driveway within 6 months following the initial opening period. The police detail at the site
exit onto Endicott Street will be reinstated during peak business hours until a meeting with the planning staff is held to discuss resolutions. Meeting with planning staff shall be held within 7 days of reinstatement of police detail. Five, the applicant is required to come
back to the planning board six months following the initial operating period to ensure that site access and egress within the town of Danvers jurisdiction and interior circulation is functioning as intended to provide an opportunity to resolve any issues pertaining to motor
vehicle, pedestrian or bicycle conflicts, site circulation or movements related to site access on Silven Street or Endicott Street in the town of Nverse if deemed necessary by by the planning Ford. The town may hire a third-party traffic engineer consultant firm paid by
paid for paid by the applicant operator 53G outside consultant to evaluate the turning movement patterns of vehicles entering and exiting the site from Endicott Street and/or Silven Street. Review crash data and or perform a roadway safety audit RSA to provide
recommendations for safety improvements to the curb site curb cuts. Six. The applicant shall provide town staff with crash data for movements related to site access obtained from the Danvers Police Department for the one Endicott Street
and Silven Street intersections as well as crash data at the two sight driveway on Endicott Street for the six months following the initial operating period. Seven, queuing onto Endicott Street is prohibited. Employees shall monitor and
manage the parking lot and drive-through lanes at all times to avoid queuing onto the street. In the event that queuing is occurring onto Endicott Street, the applicant/operator shall meet with town staff to determine a resolution. Eight. Prior to the
certificate of occupancy, CO, the applicant shall seek approval from the select board for the installation of a yield sign and associated yield and traffic markings on the Silven Street northbound. right turn lane onto Endicott Street. The yield sign shall be
located within the town's right of way RO while maintaining ADA compliance. Nine. Prior to certificate of occupancy co, the applicant shall install all the proposed thermoplastic reflective pavement markings in the town right
ofway as shown on the site plan in consultation and to the satisfaction of Danverse DPW according to industry standards prior to the certificate of occupancy co. The applicant shall make a one-time donation to the cost of maintenance of the thermoplastic
reflective pavement markings in the amount of $6,900. 10. The applicant will satisfy all the comments in the Danber's electric division memorandum dated July 3rd, 2025. 11. The applicant was will satisfy all the comments in the Damber's
engineering division memorandum dated December 9th, 2025. 12. If there are any changes to the approved plans, the use or the conditions on premises, planning staff will review. If deemed a major change by staff, the applicant will have to apply for a new application for site
plan review. This project is subject to the attached list of general conditions. Any approval of this site plan review shall lapse within three years from the grant thereof if construction has not begun by such date.
>> Okay. Thank you. A motion's been made. Is there a second on the motion? >> Second. >> Okay. Second by Mike Dulis. Any further discussion on the motion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. Any opposed? None.
>> Thank you very much. >> Okay. >> And again, we appreciate your time and staff's time on this project. >> Absolutely. Thank you very much and good luck. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Okay. All right. Right. So, moving on to the next uh next agenda item here. And this
is agenda item general discussion and update about housing production plan and open space and recreation plan, upcoming zoning amendments, uh citizens petition, pet daycare and signage, endicott street visioning project, and lighting bylaw. And I know this is something that we had
um I think we'd spoken about at a at a previous meeting, just sort of an update on where things are standing. Um and we thought this was a good opportunity to have a discussion and you know have town staff to present and if we have any questions by the u members of the board as well as members of the public that
would be great. >> All right. So yeah um this is some stuff that we will be working on um now and for the short term and more of like the longer term but I'll just kind of go through it and feel free to we'll stop maybe after each topic and
>> Yep. >> You know it's pretty informal. So >> that sounds good. All right. So, the housing production plan, this is something that we've been working with a consultant for the past year plus. Um, it's very close to um being finalized or
like a final final draft. Um, and um officially or technically, the planning board does actually have to u make a official or formal vote on it for it to be approved. um but um to be you know
for the state to be like you know the town of Denver has completed this that's like one of the requirements um um I know that you there is a link of latest and greatest probably on the website that's probably that might be
not that has not been you know easy to find lately in the past couple weeks um but I I will send out the latest and greatest that I have to the to the group um in by the end of the week for sure. >> And Josh, can we also see about having something that's um uh you know, because
it will be discussed at the February 24th meeting of you know uh where it's where it's accessible by by members of the public. >> Oh yeah, certainly. Yeah. So I I I'm going to put on the website so when I send it out I'll put it on a ton of D's um website so um you know the public and
you folks would be able to you know access it easy not just like a PDF that you know it's going to be too big and you can't share it and open it and all that. Um so as you mentioned um yes we will be discussing it on February 24 our
meeting our second meeting in February. Um, I think how Aaron and I had kind of talked through this was that we would at least um have an initial discussion conversation with um and I believe the consultant who
was um will help us. Oh, she's here. Jennifer Goldson's here. Um >> sorry, she's what? >> She's actually um on the on the um she's watching on the meet at Verb. Yeah. >> Okay. Um, so >> the spot. >> Yeah, didn't I wasn't trying to do that.
Sorry, Jen. Um, and um, so yeah, we'll have like initial conversation about it. >> Um, >> and then we wouldn't officially vote on it that night, but at a at a future at another future meeting probably somewhere in that like April
>> time frame. Okay. >> But um, not sure. >> There's there's no deadline or anything. just >> and I guess the question is is okay once the um this is just more of a general question. So sure >> um and this is for you know >> so once the housing production plan is
um >> you know is is prepared what next >> and once once the planning board votes on it what happens with it how is it how is it implemented or what is the >> plan so it's >> it's a plan it's um the select board are
also involved obviously the affordable housing trust are involved um I believe you know there will be recommendations in it there'll be implementation things that we should be doing as a town. So is that sort of your question? >> Yeah, I guess in terms of like what happens from you know sort of is there is there a next step in the process for
because if I remember >> the select board also have to vote on it too I believe. >> Okay. >> Um so it's we're kind of Aaron and I are trying to coordinate it all. So it's you know you know the planning board it's at a planning board meeting then it goes to a select board meeting also and then
we're just trying to like merge all the comments and into one document that that you both would officially vote. Um, planning board would would vote on it. Then select board could vote on either vote on all or part of it or >> Sure. Actually, Jen, would you like to
comment or she would probably provide? >> Yeah, I can I can definitely clarify. Nice to see you all. Um, thank you for having me tonight. >> And if you guys identify yourself for the record just for, you know, >> absolutely. My name is Jen Goldson. I'm a planning consultant. and I've been working with Danver for um for quite
some time uh working on the plan and uh yeah it's ready for your for your review. Um the select board would also need to review and approve it. Um sometimes that happens even at the same meeting.
Sometimes they take it up separately. It doesn't need to be one first and then the other, but typically we have the planning board vote first and and then the select board votes. But there's no real order that needs to happen. Once both boards vote to uh adopt the plan
locally, then it goes to the state housing and livable communities um and they review it, make sure it meets the state guidelines, and then once they approve it, you have an approved housing production plan. >> Got it. Okay. No, thank you.
>> Thank you, Jen. >> You're welcome. >> Okay. Um, >> anything further on that one because I I'll I'll see if the board has any questions. >> Yeah, that's fine. I'm I'm all set with that one if the board >> Okay, Jean, any questions about about the sort of this this piece?
>> No, not right now. >> Okay, Mike. Yep. >> Yeah. The only thing I ask is in terms of the presentation, just in case there are folks who are have not um uh you know, who've not been following this and it's you know, it's been a little while since we've seen the initial draft. as
part of the presentation sort of maybe walking through sort of a little bit of the nuts and bolts like how we got here, what's you know when was the last time this was done, you know, that sort of thing just so people can have a little bit understanding of the background. >> Jen, are you here are you hearing that?
>> Yeah. Yeah, I'm happy to do that. I actually didn't know about that February date and I do have a conflict that night. Um but I'm happy to Okay. >> I'm happy to look at a different day to do that presentation. Very happy to do it. Okay. >> Okay, Jen, you and I can work offline
and I could we'll do the whole scheduling thing. >> Okay, >> perfect. Thank you so much. >> That sounds great. Yeah, I I think in terms of having that just to, you know, because some time has passed just so just just to just so sort of, you know, so the convers so the conversation and presentation can be as self-contained as
possible. So, you know, obviously we're not asking a full, you know, but even just like a short catch up for people who might not have been following this and um to refresh people's recollection, as they say. >> Sure. >> Sounds good. So, no other questions on housing production plan. This is not a public hearing, but we do have a member
of the public here. Any questions? Okay, >> let's move on to the next one. >> Um, very similar uh to um the hazard protection plan is another plan that our uh department has been working on. um um particularly the recreation department
but um there's a plan that um is required by communities um I think it's every 5 years that needs to be like updated also with the state >> very similar to the HP is the open space and recreation plan >> it's been going on for a while because I I thought there was a there was some
sort of um meetings that were that was sort of >> it's probably been about a year and a half two years something like that something like that maybe like a year and a half two or something like that. >> Um similar it's just sim uh the board doesn't unlike HPP the board doesn't
have to make an official like vote um but um they have to I guess technically they have to receive like knowledge that has been provided to the board type of thing. Um and I will send a draft the
latest and greatest to the group similarly and um we >> um get it on the town website as well. >> Oh yeah. All the Yep. Same. Um I was thinking about maybe doing at the same February 24th meeting, but I think it might make s whatever we decide to do
for the housing production plan. We I think it might make sense because I think Aaron would is also like to attend. Um we'd probably do it on that same night. So, whenever HPP is whenever um Jen and I line up the HPP meeting, we'll just I I thought we were going to do the 24th, but it's completely fine if
we have to move stuff around a little bit >> around or split it up or something like that. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is there a um um >> how long are the are how long are the reports in terms of in terms of length? >> Yeah, they're both I think the I think the HTP is at least 100 pages. Um, but
there's obviously there's figures and pictures and stuff like it's not like all words. >> Um, and I the open space is probably in that same like 60 like 60 to 80 probably have access to a computer where they'd be able to come to planning office and review it if they wished. >> Yeah, of course.
>> Yep. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. >> We could accommodate that. >> Okay, great. >> Um, moving on if we're okay with those that item >> on open space members of the public. No. Okay. Yeah. Why don't we move on to the
>> So, um for uh the annual town meeting in May >> um as we speak um there's kind of two zoning amendments that are that are on the table um that at least staff is um
kind of focusing on. One is more of an external one. Um it's actually a citizens petition that someone submitted. Um and that is related to amending the amending the use table. >> Okay. >> Because right now as we speak uh pet
daycare as a use is not allowed in residential zones 1 2 and three. Mhm. >> And the proposal would be to modify the use table to uh instead of so right now in the use table that use would have an X in that
row under those zoning districts and it would be the proposal on the table or what's being proposed is uh to make that particular use um a special permit in zones R1, R2, and R3 cuz at this at this
time um you know if someone wants to do that right now it's an you we we say you're not allowed to do that. You know, it like it's prohibited, right? Um the person bringing this forward is saying at least, you know, in some you know, with a special permit, are there some
instances where this use would be appropriate? >> Um so that will certainly be that will def that will definitely be on um the town meeting in May. Um so we will have to have a um a public we will as the planning
board we have to have public hearings for um zoning amendments. Um and then the other one is more of an internal one >> and that is sort of alluded to earlier this evening with the racing canes. Um
we in February in January of 2025 um or February of 2025 we did do a decent amount of changes or kind of like updating um to signage and we're finding um that and its
implementation and applicability that maybe we want to modify some of the things. um it's not um not necessarily not working, but when requests especi particularly in some of
the commercial zoning districts um some of the requirements in terms of like size of the signs and height probably as we speak in the in the zoning bylaw probably are not appropriate. And we're finding that there's sort of a a decent rise in
signage applications to the zoning board of appeals that probably shouldn't be going to the zoning board of appeals when the requests aren't um the proposed signs are not inappropriate. >> Say inappropriate looking at like are we talking about it's a
>> um it's a like size or >> size? We can't do we can't regulate content in any way. So it's uh yeah mostly size and height. Size of square footage of the sign and height. >> So internally planning staff um we don't
have the official um >> brightness >> that's something we could potentially look into. Um we are um we are proposing internally as we speak. It's January 27th. We don't have a definitive yes from the town
manager's office to uh completely go go ahead, but um if possible in the next couple weeks um we will know. Um, but we would like to what we would call like a signage sign a signage type of cleanup of the signage
section if we if potential because generally historically we don't usually do a lot of zoning um amendments and proposals at annual town meeting. They're generally at special. >> Sure. So, um, we were trying not to kind of
not take over, but we didn't. If we could do one internal one, that would be our pick. >> Okay. >> Um, so, um, if we >> at the annual town meeting versus at a special, >> correct? Or just in the Yeah, we'd like to we'd like to maybe cl fix some of the
stuff be as soon as possible. Um >> there's a lot of matters have been going to ZBAI that >> yeah like in when when they're not like in a you know in a height and in the C3 district where like on an cut street in Liberty Tree Mall you know right now as we speak like signs over 10 ft are
needing waiverss and or variances and that's probably not an appropriate number. So we were thinking about we're trying to just make real you know when things are appropriate in reality a sign you know can be a little bit bigger in that
commercial part of town um they probably should be you know it should be a by right sign it shouldn't need um be seeking relief. Um we'll know in a next couple weeks. Um but um so at least for this annual town
meeting coming up, we'll at least have one or two um public hearings, zoning related matters. Um and they would both one or both one or both would be um the public hearings would have take place in like March and April, but we'd open them in March just so we could have kind of a
robust conversation about both. So >> So it would be March either 10th or the 24th, I guess, is the >> sure. and the um do do we know at least at this point when the when the warrant closes so when any sort of because I know there's a there's a whole timing in terms of >> Yeah, I'll definitely know all that
stuff and I'll at our next meeting I could >> sure >> um I know that town meetings May 18th and then I I work I work have to work back so >> it's on a chart upstairs. >> Um so that's that item or items. Is that
one all set? >> Any questions at all? I just have a question about the pet daycare real quick, Josh. Um, >> can you you just define again what the difference is between is it four dogs is okay and then over four is pet day. I just can't Wasn't there a number that we talked about? Am I just
>> There was we went it got um it >> just have to do with running a business. Is it not about the number of dogs? What is the >> that one is we parsed it out? Um one sec.
um that we did increase we did increase that the thing that you're talking about the um because it used to be three it was it was three or more and I guess what I'm just trying to understand is like >> I think so a kennel right >> I guess what I'm just trying to understand like what the definition of
pet does it just mean you're running a business or does it have to do with quantity of dogs and then from there is that saying that >> if I live in R1 that my next door neighbor could be operating a pet daycare out of their house like is that what that basically saying >> correct >> and What I don't know if this is the time to get into this or not, but what
>> what would be a situation that people are suggesting that would be >> something that they would want? >> Well, sort of like you were saying. So, um you know, someone does want to operate a business, >> right? So, what would be the reason that a special permit would be granted for
like someone in like a residential neighborhood? Like people were saying there's certain instances where they feel that it would be like the person who's had the petition. So I'm just curious like were those were there examples of that or was it just a general statement? >> I think in that particular case there there was a I think there was a desire
at that particular a particular >> location >> location to do that to do a pet daycare >> and these would be approved by the zoning board. Um, >> they would probably um I'd have to check into that, but it's
pro it would probably be the it would probably without me looking it would probably be the zoning board of appeals because generally how our book is set up is that well >> we've done that as a matter for for uses as a matter of right hasn't it? I'm trying to recall
>> um generally how our book is set up when folks want special permits in commercials in commercial parts of town generally the planning board does them >> like Hollywood hits we did that was for the >> right and generally not not all and it's all just kind of you know we could we
could spend days looking and fixing the use table too but generally when folks are trying to get special permits in residential zoned uses generally the CBA does them generally. And would it ride with the deed or would it be the person once they move out? Like how
would that >> Yeah. Right. So, >> and if this is not the time to talk >> No, it's fine. We >> Yeah, I could do I could do a little dive or whatever. >> Sure. um the person. So let's say a person >> if I got a special permit and you got
the special permit to do it, you could do it >> and then >> um it doesn't run with the land like a variance would. >> That person moved then it would be no longer >> not necessarily. It could at that address it could happen. at the address, it could happen. But if there's a 2year
a 2-year break or like someone did it, you got the special permit and the business they moved. >> Mhm. >> If the business didn't operate or the use didn't Yeah. operate on a daily basis for for 2 years, then it would expire.
>> Okay. >> So like if you had a house or whatever, resent >> and you had a daycare, you you operated for 10 years and then you moved, >> right? you just sold your house like it was a regular h single family house. The next folks don't have to do dog daycare. But if they wanted to do it and
there was no like two-year gap, >> then they could continue. >> They wanted to change the extent of it in terms of let's say double the amount of animals that are present versus the one that was existing that the special permit was granted for. >> Yeah. Does the special permit limit the amount of dog? Probably not. But you
could potentially you you could you could potentially depending on when and if it happened, which as we speak, it probably would be the zoning board of appeals. You could potentially as a condition >> put a cap input a condition of that
nature as long as it's reasonable. >> Sure. But um >> so the special permit granting authority could >> you could in theory or technically you could put a condition um I would you know caution that it would be you know a
reasonable condition um that they would have have to adhere to but right if you were to let's just say they said you could only do 10 and they wanted to do 14 then in my opinion you would you would have to come back to the CBA BA to
modify that special permit if you wanted to go above the number if that makes sense. >> The petition already received the signatures >> I believe so. Yes. >> So what's the next step? >> The next step is basically the public hearing with us >> here but then it would be voted on at
town meeting. >> Correct. And because it's a zoning amendment, it would need twothirds vote in favor >> at town meeting. >> At town meeting. >> But we don't have a say. we have a non-binding uh uh recommendation,
>> right? And well and and then ultimately it go it would go to it would go to select board and then fin could make a uh a recommendation of either favorably or no action. >> Sure. >> But did those matter at that point once it's voted on by town meeting? Those
those would all happen prior to t to even get ton meeting would be the last the last step >> before like fin and us would >> but does it need approval from those other boards before it gets to town? >> Yes. >> Or it's like a recommendation. >> It would still end up on the it would
still end up on the town meeting floor but just it depends on the like like I remember for example like the the citizens petition for the for the train station. It had a you know you it it was a matter of uh I believe if I recall fin had a um uh you know had a
recommendation I believe of no action and then ultimately there had to be a in order to overturn a no action recommendation you'd have to have a vote to amend that the fincom recommendation. It just it's the mechanics of the >> Yeah, it's kind of it is kind of
complicated but yeah um >> can you just send us that at some point? Yeah, I'm just curious. Yeah. You just want to know the pro the process. >> Oh, no, no, no. The petition. I was curious about Do we have it? >> I'm sure the clerk's office. Yeah, I could I You know what? I could I could get I could get a scan and I'll send it to you folks because I think they I think they only need 10 signatures.
>> Oh, okay. >> I assume this is >> and we're just talking about process, too. >> Yes. >> Where like somebody might be in a res. >> I'm sorry. >> Just because um >> recognize a member of the public. >> Uh Nova Seminary town meeting member
precinct one. Uh, so I live in a residential area, but I assume that this is probably more of a situation where someone in a residential zone has a larger property than like like I'm on a tenth of an acre and so are most of my neighbors. I assume that's not what would get I mean they could go for a
special permit, but I assume this is like people with a little bit more room. >> This is R1, R2, and R3 though. So that's R1 is I mean >> are they all small in R1? >> Well, all or nothing. Can we do like just R3? We we could
>> can it just be based on plot size instead of R1, R2, R3? >> Um the citizens petition of it makes it interesting and we could get into it as we get closer. Um >> we want to be mindful too. This is not the you know it would have to be a public hearing for the
>> right. I don't know how I have to I'm interested in seeing what the petition says now. I was just sort of giving us like a Yeah. you know, like no no um >> I don't know. Um I'd have to see what their what the
proposal is, per se. >> And I don't know if we could be mindful as well because when we do have any sort of hearings on it for what our what our recommendation is, then we'd have the opportunity to hear from the from the the petitioner as well and they could they could present their um because I know that's >> to the zoning board you're talking about.
>> Well, no, they No, no, but the for the citizens petition. >> Oh, for I'm sorry. I thought you actually the zoning matter they would be presenting to >> to the the planning board for our >> in Joshua it would be for our recommendation correct >> yeah correct >> yep and just something to think about just >> be able to answer any questions that we
have >> you know I think that right the R1 R2 R3 so just forformational generally when you're R1 R2 R1 is 10,000 foot lots R2 is 20,000 square foot lots and then R3 is 30,000 square foot lots so that's and
I think that's I know when we say in R1 there are um there are lots of lots that are under 10, right? Like hundreds. Um but I think that's kind of why it's a special permit in that, you know, um
some lots in all three of those different zoning districts are all different sizes. So maybe a lot might be R10, but it might be 30,000 foot and it is appropriate, right? Right. And so I think that's a I think that's kind of
why it would be a special permit and not like by right. Right. It's like the special permit was appropriate in like it's in some locations, right? It's sort of like that's what makes it special, right? Like it's some like sometimes it's okay and sometimes it's not, right? >> And and talking just in generality. So
you could have, you know, in any sort of special permit setting, correct? You could have something that is that based on where it's where it's situated, >> the particular the particular particularness of it, you know, >> you know, so so you can't just, you know, so so it could so something special permit could be, you know, a
could be okay in one location, but it may not be in another, >> right? And maybe we get to that point. I don't know if we could modify it, but Right. Maybe we Yeah, it's not a we should probably not get too much into it, but um >> I want to be careful. This is Yeah, we're not
>> um But yeah, we we'll get in in it will be here soon. >> But I will send you the the petition and I will learn a little bit more. I could answer a little bit more about it. >> Okay. >> For sure. >> But in any event, that's a that's a that's a preview. >> Preview, right, is a good word
>> of what's what will be coming. And so and and so and and Josh, we'll we'll be hearing about that probably you said sometime. Yeah, Mar we'll have to >> because we just don't have a Yeah, it'll be a March for sure. >> Okay, >> at minimum at minimum that'll be that
one and at max it will be the the the signage as well. >> Got it. >> So, a min of one, max of two. >> So, okay, >> if you think about it like that. Um, if we're okay with that one, um, oh, let me see. I thought I had a
thing. Um, oh, yeah. So the the Endicott Street Visioning Project. So this is what we've been you know >> Are you sharing screen Josh? I don't see if they >> I thought I was but
now I am. Um so this is the whole you know we've been talking about it for years >> and everyone's everyone is always interested in this topic. Uh the what are we doing with the mall or what's happening at the mall. Um, so we did
apply for a larger grant in the fall. Unfortunately, we did not get it. So, we ended up applying for another grant. And um, we're hoping to hear the in late February or early March if
we receive funds to help us. It's called like a technical assistance. It's a TAP. It's a TAP grant with working with MAPC. Um and hopefully we awarded the money and
then we would like to >> MAPC Metropolitan Area Planning Council. >> Yep. Which is the regional planning agency for Metro Boston. So like 101 communities which we are one of. Um we are hoping that we are awarded the
grant and we would like to start doing some visiting sessions in the starting in the May June time frame um and at maybe kind of concluding in the fall of 20 later in the year. But this would be a series of meetings and
workshops and visiting sessions with the public and sort of starting that hey what do we want to see at our at the mall and what is our you know what's our what is what do we want to see as the future future uses future what is the
future look you know 10 20 25 years um and then ultimately out of these conversations the second piece to this would be um a later date in 2027 would be um
amending the zoning bylaw to kind of uh you know make that vision happen essentially you know create the zoning that would that would make what people want to see happen. So, um yeah, I mean this this obviously would
be an exciting project and something that most folks in town are definitely interested. When we do uh every year when we do like citizens academy, the exercise that I generate it is we have a map and of that area an
aerial and then we kind of what do you guys want to see? What do you want? you know that type of thing and people get people usually enjoy it. Um but we would be doing it for real, you know. >> Um so >> just a question for you the um the uh
the Mass General Bighgam parcels. So those are the uh does that I assume that includes where MGH as well as what was where Sylvania. >> Yeah, correct. Yeah, >> that's all that's all within sort of MGH's ambit. >> Yeah, I believe that they own that
parcel. Yeah, that it's kind of right now as you speak. If we're looking at MGH to the left, it's like the undeveloped large parcel parcels. Yeah. >> Yeah. It used to be Sylvania for correct time back. And >> Yep. I remember >> really really way back was I believe it
was like CBS Hitron which made vacuum tubes. >> Oh. Mhm. So it's a it's just you know that whole Endicott what we call intern we call like the Endicott Street Corridor, right? It's, you know, very much, you know, commercial, you
know, very like regional commercial. Um, you know, um, >> so >> yeah, I think that'd be good. I think that >> it's obviously a very visible and visible part of town that people are, you know, very interested in seeing what
>> lies ahead. >> Sure. >> Any questions with respect to Endicott Street? Yeah, I think I see a question from >> Oh, >> absolutely. >> You can introduce yourself and >> uh sorry, Nova Samade, town meeting
member precinct one again. Um without the grants, does any of this go to any kind of does this go anywhere without those two without that grants? Good question. Yeah, I don't know about >> you do it without the >> Yeah, I mean at some point um
I'm not sure. I'd have to talk to Brian or Aaron. Um what we would um it's potent potentially >> Mhm. >> Um um it's a pretty big kind of you know it's visible. It's you know our most
important commercial part of town. Um, so I think that we'd be interested in having some like other professional, you know, assistance and or, you know, recommendations, but um, I don't think that that's necessarily a definite no, but it would be easier, but
>> yeah, I think it was definitely a definitely a need. So, >> yeah. >> Okay. >> Um, and just one other kind of item or update. Um I know that in February 2025 we
brought forth the lighting, you know, a whole new lighting section that um was sent back to the board for more discussion. Um in terms of like timeline about bringing this back. Um
we don't have anything definitive on the you know with the town manager's office about >> um our next special town meeting but I think in on in pencil internally in our office it's probably very likely um February of 2027.
>> Mhm. So working back from that, um the public hearings and kind of informal conversations about bringing the lighting back are probably in that time frame um at the end of the year. >> I think that's I think that's helpful at least having having a timeline for this
as well. So, in terms of just having discussions, September through October, zoning amendment, public hearing, and then special town meeting, >> um, you know, a year from now, it's a, uh, these all dates, they end up coming, you know, you know, we're getting there faster than we, we know it. So, I think
that it's, um, I think it's good because I know there's some, I think you noted here, there's some concerns about sort of toning down the residential lighting requirements, but, currently, we don't have a otherwise have a lighting >> correct, >> bylaw. And so I think that's even when we're even talking about signs and such
and lighting as well. I think that that comes into um you know that's potentially applicable as well like brightness and such. >> Yep. >> Because wasn't the whole idea for the lighting wasn't this whole wasn't the impetus for the lighting bylaw wasn't it because of some concerns of of
commercial lighting? There was some commercial on residential tres light trespass for sure that internally at least started the conversation for us that it would be appropriate andor >> commercial lighting intruding onto residential correct properties. Okay.
>> Um we thought it would be beneficial to include some regulation on this topic. So >> okay sounds good. Any um questions or comments on that?
Okay, great. Thank you, Josh. I appreciate the >> Yeah, of course. >> Appreciate the summary here. >> Um, but yeah, I think that's all I had from my update. >> Okay, >> as you said, the dates and times, uh, they seem to creep up quickly, quicker
than you'd think. Um, when you think when something's a year away, it kind of >> sort of happens quickly. So, >> that's why I'm glad we have some timelines there, especially when it comes to lighting. It just giving us a ballpark in terms of where we're going. So, for sure. >> Great. All right. It looks like um All
right. So, then move on then to our next agenda item here. It's our meeting minutes. So, it looks like we have minutes from our one set of minutes from >> probably our last meeting, >> our last meeting of January 13th. >> The only thing that I was going to um the only minor edit I had here, Josh, is
just in uh it was noted at the beginning when I acknowledged the passing of y Andrea Dailyaly. Her last name is spelled D A L E Y. Yeah, correct the spelling. Y >> as opposed to D A L Y. Yeah, so that was if you can make that correction, that'd be great. >> Absolutely.
>> Thank you for including that. >> Yep. >> Any other um comments on or edits on the on the minutes? >> Can I entertain a motion to uh to approve the minutes um as amended? >> I make a motion we approve the minutes
from January 13, 2026 as amended. >> The motion's by Jean. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Okay. Second by Mike Dulis. Any further discussion hearing? None. All in favor, please say I. >> I. >> I. Any opposed? None. Okay, Josh. So, what's our what's um Yeah. What is next
on the >> Yes. So, we had >> meeting on February the 10th. >> February the 10th. Yep. Um so, that was the application that we continued earlier this evening, the 98 Newbury Street. Um
I just wanted um at least Lou you had indicated that you were not going to be able to attend or very likely >> I'm on work I'm on work travel that um that week and um I would have hoped to be able to participate remotely but it looks like it's more likely than not
because of a conflict where I'm from my work travel um more likely than not that I will not be able to participate. So >> I was So would that advantage just if Jean or Mike if you I guess if you were able to attend that night or if you if
there was any conflicts there for you folks >> I'll be there. >> Okay. >> And if I'm not able to again if I'm if I'm able to do it last minute that's then I'll I would I would I would certainly let you know. Otherwise, um I'd not be able to participate and I would uh um I'd ask you know Jean as
clerk to be acting uh chair in that case and I'd ask Mike to be acting clerk. >> Okay, >> that's the case. >> Sure. >> Okay, great. Thank you. >> All right. Um so there's there might potentially be an approval not required plan um but still working on that um
with the applicant. Um but as we speak right now, it's just the 98. It's just that one site plan application for that evening as we speak. But that's it. >> Okay, that's great. All right. Anything further by any of the members of the
board or Josh and staff? >> I'm I'm almost. Thank you. >> Okay. I' like to entertain a motion to adjurnn. >> Make a motion we adjourn. >> Okay. Motion's made by Gene. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second by Mike. Any discussion? All in favor, please say I.
>> I. Any opposed? None. >> Very good. Our meeting, our planning board meeting is adjourned. Have a good night everybody and stay warm.