Thank you for your patience. Welcome Davis to our um is this May 8th? Yes, May 8th, 2025 select board meeting. Before we swear in Gardner, Kathy will do the pledge. Please join me.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. So, the agenda says
reorganization, but the chair is still here, so we'll reorganize on May 20th. And now Kathy, the swear in our newest member. Sorry. I press do solemnly swear and affirm do
solemnly swear and affirm that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent on me as select board member. duties incumbent upon me as board member according to the best of my abilities according to the best of my
abilities and understanding and understanding agreeably to the rules and regulation agreeable to the rules and regulations of the constitution of the constitution and the laws of this and the laws of this common law so help me God so help me God congratulations thank you very much
okay to kiss your wife what's that it's okay to kiss your wife it's okay to kiss my wife Oh, that's beautiful. Thank you. Thank you. Welcome back, Adna. Thank you very much. Can we have an approval of the minutes of April 15th, please? I'll make the
motion to approve the minutes of April 15, 2025. Is there a second? All in favor? I opposed? None. Thank you. New public business. Anyone with new public business? Mark, you want to go first? Sure, I'll go first.
I hope it's new. It is absolutely new. I promised I wasn't going to bring up the issue, so I hope you will discuss it. Yes. When the time comes. Thank you. My issue today is that I noticed on your
consent calendar you have a North Atlantic Airways off Burley Street, 191 Berley Street gas storage permit that is going to be reissued. And I would like to hear from
the applicant when the time comes. I don't care if it's today or not, but the issues at Beverly airport have been convoluted to the point where they have gasoline leaks on one end of the airport
and now we're having a gas station, basically a jet fuel uh depot on the west side of the airport. It's been there for a while, but I'm just wondering whether the conditions and the regulations have changed, and I would
like to see the application and discuss it with the applicant. Clerk, is this a renewal of a permit? This is a renewal of 20,000 gallons of jet A fuel. Do we know if the fire inspects the
storage before the permit is granted? I would have to check on that. I'm not sure. I know they do do inspections, but I don't know what the status of this one is. Okay. Could we get an update perhaps? Sure. Thank you. The reason I'm asking this is because
the current plans for the expansion of the airport and the hangar construction includes relocation of that particular gas storage facility, which is 10,000 gallons of fuel, jet fuel.
So, I'm just bringing it up because I'm very concerned about it and I think we should be as a town. Thank you. Thank you, Tony. Tony Benton Court, Precin 5 member, what Mark just brought up is a a real issue as far as I'm concerned. Okay. Another
problem we got to realize too is how is the fuel getting there? The fuel's going down Burley Street. Okay. I don't know if we should have trucks that big going down Bley Street with all that fuel. It's I know it's been going on for years, but they're they're getting bigger over there and we got these heavy fuel trucks going down that street. Let me tell you something. They're not paying us a dime in taxes for anything.
So, those streets are getting chewed up and stuff like that. So, we got to use our brain the right way here and understand what we're doing here cuz the only way they can get the fuel in is down street. Okay? We ought to turn Brilly Street into uh no vehicles under uh what is it? Uh two tons or something like that. anything over 12 we should do
there because really we shouldn't have a vehicle that much larger than two tons it's more like 20,000 that's what I'm trying to get we should there's one restriction with with with all the houses there and the high school and everything else Thorp school we shouldn't have a vehicle like that going down that street okay I really don't think so okay we got to look into that
thank you thank you anyone else Ellen Graham hello Hello, I'm Ellen Graham. I wrote it down. Keep myself focused. Hope you don't mind. I came here tonight to talk about the vote of the banner for the Pride event presented by the Human
Rights and Inclusion Committee at your last meeting. The Human Rights and Inclusion Committee is a town committee that has been putting on Pride events for years. They this year they asked to place a banner across downtown to advertise
their town events as many groups do. Two of the select board members, Moren and Mike, decided not to vote on this benign banner. They abstained. Generally, abstaining from a vote is reserved for when there is a conflict of interest. Moren, you didn't
give an give us a reason um why you abstained. My hope is we'll get one tonight. Mike talked a fair amount saying things like, "Some people may not like it, and if we allow this, we will have to allow other things. It sounded
like he was just going to say no, but then he abstained. I think it's important to point out again that the Human Rights and Inclusion Committee is a town of Danvers committee. The description on the website is this. The Danis Human
Rights and Inclusion Committee is a cohesive task force against intolerance, bigotry, and oppression. Human Rights in and Inclusion Committee partners with police, school, administration, interfaith leaders, and several
community partners on events and in discussions to create a positive atmosphere for an inclusive multicultural community. We stand against hatred and we support those who experience marginalization due to their age, gender, race, ethnicity, religious
beliefs, sexual orientation, citizen, excuse me, citizenship status or socioeconomic status. It's obvious to me and I think many others that abstaining on this banner was in clear contradiction of the goals
of the human rights and inclusion committee and a clear signal that you do not support the residents in our community. Honestly, I think it's disrespect disrespectful of all the citizens and task force members who put these events together and is even more
disrespectful of the LGBTQ plus community. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else with new business? Oh, okay. Thank you. The board select board will consider the appointment of an alternate
to the ZBA zoning board of appeals. Mr. Manager, we have an application. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. I'll turn over to director of planning and economic development Brian Skellyy. Thank you. Welcome, Brian. Thank you so much. Good evening, everyone. Um, so, uh, the ZBA,
uh, unfortunately is currently down one regular member and one alternate member. We've been looking for an alternate member for several months now, but then one of our regular members stepped down. So, um, we unfortunately
had to go very quickly in order to try to fill this. Um we uh then uh put out uh it's uh it should be up on up on the web the website now that we've been looking for both an alternate and a
regular. Uh we now have a a candidate that used to be on the the zoning board for many years nearly 15 uh in order to fill the alternate member until we can get a regular member. So that is who is uh
before you this evening uh um Mrs. Becky Kilborn. So, I I'll turn it over to her unless you have any questions for me at the moment. No, we'll let uh Becky get up and introduce herself to the folks at home. And Wonderful. Some of the members here might not realize she was on the
ZBA before so she can give a little background if she doesn't mind. Thank you. I have a bunch. Hi, I'm Becky Kilborn. Hi. Um, so I was on the zoning board for 15 years and I
retired from the zoning board about two and a half years ago and um the town approached me and asked if I would come back on as an alternate to fill in until you can get another permanent one.
I'm retired. I have a little time. I said I'd be glad to help. That's great. So, board members, the zoning board of appeals is our appointment. Any questions for Becky O'Brien? D. Uh, no. No questions. Thank you for your service, Loren. Becky, it's nice that
you want to, you know, do this again. Um, we appreciate it. Thank you, Mike. Thank you. It's good to see you. Uh, if you have other time, I got to clean out my garage on Saturday. I think it's great. Thank you. I have that experience and so I think um you
know that's good until we can get somebody up to speed. Go ahead. Now I've known Becky for years and I'm very comfortable with uh with uh approving this and uh thank you for coming back bringing your expertise so you have minimal learning curve and uh
thank you for volunteering again. Volunteers run this town help this town run get to the heart of the town. Thank you. We need them. We do. Is there a motion? Mr. Chairman, I'll move we accept the uh cons the appointment of alternate uh the alternate Becky to uh zoning board of
appeals. We're making the motion to accept. Thank you. Thank you. Second. Second. Any discussion? Hearing none. All in favor? I Thank you, Becky. Good to see you again. With the board's permission, I'd like to take number seven out of
order and take it next. Any objections? That's fine. Okay. Number seven, a public hearing will be held under chapter 138 of the general laws on the application of Double Tree Boston Northshore, 50 Village Drive. Henry
Santos, director of operations for change of offices, directors at that location. Is Mr. Santos here? Yeah. Wonderful. Please go to the microphone, introduce yourself. Hello everyone. My name is Henry Santos, director of operations at the Double Tree. Um, I'm here
for the for a change of officers and directors of operations that hold the liquor license for the hotel. Um, our new director, um, our new officials are are Gregory Mundus, that's
replacing Mark OPEC and, um, and Ali Elbasi, that's replacing Karen Kovac, is the paperwork in order, madam clerk? It is. Okay. Questions? Moren? I was just there um last Friday at the
Northshore Women's Conference. What a Yeah. No. Um, I think as long as the paperwork's in order, I'm all for it. That's fine. Thank you, Mike. Uh, no, no questions. Thank you, Gardner. No, it says right here there's no changes at the local level. So, I think these are pretty um D. Uh, no, no questions. Thank
you. A public hearing. Anyone in the audience have a question, comment hearing? None. May we have a motion to close the public hearing? Motion to close public hearing. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I oppose? None. What's the will of the board? Move as presented. Is there a
second? Second discussion hearing none. All in favor? I opposed. Thank you, sir, for coming. Appreciate it. Have a wonderful day. Oh, we will. [Music] A public hearing will be held under chapter 138 of the general laws on the
application of the Lan Event Center LLC, DBA, the Lan 562 Maple Street, Danveris, Mass. Ryan Monk's manager for an all alcoholic common vicular license at that location. Is there someone here to speak
to this? Please introduce yourself. Good evening. My name is Bonnie Carr and I'm the director of workforce development at Essex Tech. Thank you. My name is Ryan Monks. I'm the director of facility found farming grounds at Essex Tech. Thank you. So board members,
before we start, I just want to bring your attention to a couple of points that um and uh look at license guidelines regulations on page three. And I just need to have the clerk confirm we're
supposed to have floor plans which include any buildouts, interior walls, bathroom, kitchen, bar, equipment, seating, entrances, exits, windows. I don't see a floor plan that fits that description.
I provided the floor plan that was given to me. Right. And I don't see the floor plan that's required. Let me take a look. What this is is a safety. I do have more. Hold on. There's no seating on that. It's just a safety
diagram. It's called life safety plan. It's not a floor plan, seating plan. It's a little different than a restaurant because the floor plan would change based on the requirements of the event. Okay. So, our
guidelines don't say any exception. That's number one. Number two, a written policy describing the intended practice of verifying the age of patrons carding and monitoring alcohol consumption throughout the
premises. I don't see a written policy. Did I miss it? That's not part of the ABCC application. It's part of our regulations. I understand. We could come up with that between now and before the license. Before tonight's over. No, I don't think
so. Okay. I ABC ABC C approved certificate of insurance. They did provide a certificate, but it doesn't say insurance. I do have a certificate of insurance that was provided in my application. Okay. We did
not get a copy of that, but okay. Thank you. That's from who? This is um they're partnering with Vinwood Food Service and Caterers. So they have put the Larkin Center as a certificate holder on their insurance. Okay. So that's two points. It's not
ABC. It's not ABC approved. One, two, you mentioned Venwood. So now I have to disclose as vice president of the historic Society. We have weddings at Glen Magna. Venwood Catering is our not only preferred catering, our only
caterer. While I do not sign any contracts with Venwood, I'm disclosing that I do have a um it's not a conflict, but I there is have a business interest with the historic society and Vidwin
caterers. So board members, how would you like to proceed? I've pointed out three items that are missing in the application. What is How do you want to proceed? Mr. Chairman. Yes. And might I suggest that we go through a discussion of what our individual concerns and the
neighbors concerns may be so that they could be prepared if we do not act tonight to come back with informed uh with informed answers. Is that agreeable with the other members or any disagreement? Yeah, I was I just had a question. Um when the event's being
taken care of, um we're not doing questions now. We're talking about how we're going to proceed. You wish to proceed tonight. Table it. That's an option too. So table that's officer wood gardener said D I think having a discussion so we can
have a more informed answer would be appropriate things the applicant is here if we have specific questions or things that we want them to provide it would be wise for us to let them know. Thank you Mike. Yes discussion. Okay very good. So
that's the majority we will continue. Go right ahead. Thank you. As many of you know, we recently completed the studentbased pro project of the Larkin Event Center. The Larkin is a multi-use space designed to enrich our students
and the broader community. It will serve as a hub for community meetings, gatherings, showcasing of historical artifacts in recognition of our rich agricultural heritage. The Larkin will
support our career technical and agricultural programs by offering our students an upscale hands-on environment in which to develop industry related skills. As a hospitality hospitality
training center with a fully equipped service kitchen and event space, our students and adult learners will gain a deeper level of skill in hospitality management, event planning, and culinary
arts. The Larkin will be available for both school and community events, further strengthening our connection with local businesses and residents. We believe that the Larkin will become an invaluable addition to the town of
Danvers, fostering collaboration and use for generations to come. Now, as we all know, the hospitality industry at times includes events where alcohol is served and entertainment is provided. Please
note that we have held events on campus as such and have been here multiple times to request one-day liquor licenses. These events have taken place without incident. As listed on the agenda
tonight, we are here to respectfully request a full liquor license and entertainment license and are happy to answer any questions that you may have. If I may just
uh Vinwood, they're going to be on site. You've got students. Are the students going to be employees of Vinwood? There will be times that students are going to be overseeing our events. I can give an example of that. Let's say for instance, the Chamber of Commerce has a breakfast
as they do many times at Essex Tech. The students are providing the food services with the chefs that are instructors for that event. Sometimes there have been nighttime events and many of you have been aware of the Larkin Gala which is a
communitywide event. Our culinary students work that event as food service workers. The Northshore bartenders have been the bartenders at those events under the purview of the one-day liquor license that was granted. Part of the
reason we're here for tonight is because a one-day liquor license will be repetitively requested. And it just seems to make more sense timewise to have a full liquor license so that we don't have to keep coming back to the
board for the same events information. All right. Do you want to start? What does that mean? You want to start with questions? Oh, sure. Oh, thank you for being here tonight. Um, I had five pages worth of questions.
So, I will say thanks to the town clerk for clarifying some points for me. Uh, my first instinct when I saw the application was like, whoa, alcohol and school that doesn't make sense. Um, so
that was my first instant. Um, we also did get and Mr. Chairman, the correspondence we got from town clerk, is that something available to the public? Um, you can refer to it, read from it. Okay. Um, it was sent to all
members of this board um for clarification. Um, in the beginning it sounds like it doesn't work. At the end he says it does work. So, I guess it's typical lawyer language. Yeah, because it wasn't clear to me. It says chapter
138 section uh 16 C prohibit the service of alcohol within 500 ft uh from school or church. But then he also says that um but in this case the school is the
one asking for the license. It's not a third party. And it sounded like we are able to let me clarify is that Vinwood is a third party. Vinwood is a third party in the planning of events but the
Larkin has been established as an LLC. So it is separate from the school district itself. Okay. Okay. And and and part of me also said I mean we trust you with our kids nine months a year. So I I
do trust the school. I trust their due diligence and I think that they will do right by our children. Um so I don't have any worry about uh our students being at the school while you do this. I'm sure you're taking the
proper steps. I did get a lot of uh emails and phone calls from neighbors. So my question is have and I the town clerk told me that a letter was sent out to the neighbors to let them know about
this hearing. Has the school done anything to speak to the abutters about this project? So we did receive information of a phone number from two different abutters. One to whom we spoke and the other person I
left two messages with our phone number for a return call. But in the packet that is available to everybody in this room who may be in a butter who has a concern about the Larkin Center, there is an invitation in there because we would like to have a neighborhood
community open house so that the neighbors can come and see the event center, maybe ask more questions if they have them, and also um they will be able to um you know see the culinary students in action in the Larkin cottage. Larkin
Event Center. Okay. So, that neighboring uh thing is to come. It hasn't happened yet. It has not happened yet. So, we put out an invitation. It's in the packets from May 22nd. We actually spoke to one of the neighbors and we went back and
forth about what would be a good time to have the neighbors come in because it's part of their community in a way. um that we want to have them see the space and kind of get an understanding of what um it would be used for. Okay. And I do have um one thing that I'd like to just
read about um one of the concerns that you had brought up and many many people do bring up this concern um about the culinary students being in the presence of alcohol. Okay. And they would think that it was unsafe at events. But I do have a response for anybody that doesn't
have it that I would like to read that we kind of put together because that is one of the major concerns that we do here. We completely understand and respect these concerns. However, our our culinary students are trained young professionals in food service and many of them already work in local
restaurants that serve alcohol including within the town of Danvers. Every student working at the events in the Larkin will be certified in safe serve serve safe alcohol which is a national certification ensuring that they understand the responsible handling and
compliance with all laws. More importantly, our students will not be serving alcohol. Their focus will remain on their culinary responsibilities. This model aligns with industry's best practices, giving students real world
experience in a professional setting while ensuring a safe educational environment for them. We take these safeguards seriously and will continue to work closely with local, state authorities, local and state authorities
to uphold these compliance standards. Now, we have had our culinary students working at many events. They have been at the Lark and Gala. They do not serve alcohol. They do not pour alcohol. They are not bartenders at the event. Okay.
Thank you. Uh as I said, I do trust you um to we trust you with our kids and I trust you for that as well. Um another concern, by the way, full disclosure, I live in the in in the neighborhood and I
took a walk there yesterday just to see what it looks like. Beautiful space. There were couple tables out on the patio. Really well done. Uh, another concern that I have and a lot of neighbors had was about
parking. Uh, will the parking there be the one that's on the same side next to it or the one across the street from behind the little barn there? Yeah. So we've um we have taken a look
at the parking as well and there is parking for the Larkin Center that is new parking. Traffic and parking management are the top top priorities for us. We've developed a plan that includes designated parking areas, traffic flow coordination and scheduling
events at a time that avoids bottlenecks. And Ryan might want to add a little to that as a facilities director because he's been overseeing all of the building. Yes, thank you. So, um, over the summer, we actually just installed a new parking lot exactly adjacent to the Larkin building, and
this will this will house majority of all members, uh, or visitors for the these events. We also have additional parking, um, in front of Smith Hall, which is adjacent to that space, that we we know we can fit all members. We understand that parking is a concern. Our goal is not to have events during
the day while school's in session. So this would be in this parking that we would use for administration or other students would be transferred over to these events. Okay. And when would security there would people would you have like flag
people to direct people in the in the parking lot or how would that work during events? So currently we have security staff from 7:00 a.m. to 11:00 p.m. every day Monday through Friday. If we open our facilities for weekends for these events, we would also uh be hiring
security for these. So, okay. Thank you. And in another full disclosure I have um received and prior to this and it's probably not you but there were a few neighbors that said that the school was
not very responsive to their concerns as far as the kids cutting on Hazen to try to to to get to school because Maple Street was jammed and also uh cleaning up the snow uh on the
sidewalk where they live like a few feet because it's not. So I I do think that having that community open house will be uh very important. Uh before I make any decision in favor of this, I I would
like to know that the school is taking the proper steps with the neighbors um and the abusers to make sure that they are not burdened. I think this is a great idea. Education is good. We
want to teach our kids trade, but it's going to be we want to make sure that the neighbors are not burdened by it. I'm okay for now, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, Michael. Uh, thank you. Um, I'm very uncomfortable with having that
liquor right by a school facility. Uh, there's another question here. Um, is the person the lency a nonprofit or is it forprofit? It's a nonprofit. It's a nonprofit. Okay.
Um, yeah. The the documentation we got today from the town council gave us an in and out. I just I'm not comfortable. It's too close to the school. And and the other thing that D was talking about is that um there's been uh people on
Preston Apprentice and Grand View that have uh reached out and said that uh they're finding Essex Tech as not being a good neighbor. Um, and with that, uh, an elderly lady, an elderly woman had, uh, told me that she had been threatened
with trespass when she couldn't cross a snowcovered sidewalk that I guess is possibly the school's uh, problem. So, uh, those things are uncomfortable. So, I think there's a lot
more work that you need to do. We totally understand. Mike, I just want to, uh, address the snow comment. Uh, Route 62 is a state-run um a stateowned road managed by the town of Danvers. Essex Tech is not responsible for the snow removal. We work very closely with
the state and also the town on this issue. So, um obviously we're more than happy to answer any other concerns that you might have, but on the state road, we do not have jurisdiction or um the right liability to be plowing uh the roads of Damas. All right. Um I don't know what that confusion was about, but
the response to that woman was horrendous. threatening her with a trespass if she stepped on the school property. So, of course, um I don't have in-depth knowledge of this, but I of course we can find out more and get back to you. Thank you.
I'm all set. Thank you. Thank you, Governor. Hi. How are you? I have a couple of questions, but I want to start out by saying I support the need for education and experience. I went to a vocational school. My daughter went to Johnson and Wales. She studied culinary and she studied hospitality and she
became a senier when she was an adult when she was an adult student not in high not in a high school setting. Uh I have I have several concerns. Um uh similar to uh uh Dan's concerns about
the blueprint uh there's a lot of information that's not here that I would want to know. um the liquor license control, the liquor control, uh not only in serving, how are you going to validate the PE patrons are over 18 when they're purchasing liquor. Um I have a
concern that you have an outdoor area and I have no idea how you're going to control liquor service and liquor consumption in that in four walls. I understand it pretty clearly, but if you have an outside patio, does the outside patio have access to the grounds? Does
it have stairs? says it, can people pass things back and forth? These are similar questions we would ask if you were trying to open up a um use the we asked when the people want to use a sidewalk downtown outside of their business. These are normal questions you would want to know about your liquor control.
Um, I have a concern and I'll ask uh the clerk for the more detailed um application later, but the detailed application goes through who's going to be getting the liquor license, who's actually named going to be on there. And if you're suggesting that's Vinward
Catering, that's your your discussion to make. But we usually the ABCC process is to go through the background check of these people. It's to go through to know that a specific person is going to be responsible and the list of people who if they can't be there all the time
which you might not expect that they could who's going to be responsible having gone through the tip certification. I see that you giving us tip certified is that for someone who works for the school or works for vineyard. So the tip certification that you see in
there is the tip certification for Ryan Monks who is the liquor manager for the Larkin. And I'll let Ryan talk. He has had the background check. Okay. And it is part of the application. Great. I I hadn't seen that. We got a abbreviated version. So, please. So, um in my role
as the director of facilities, I oversee every building in every event that's on campus, regardless if it's day school, our traditional high school, night school in uh adult education, which uh Bonnie oversees. Northshore Community College uses our space or any rentals for any community sports or any other
events on our property. So being in charge of anything and everything that happens on that campus, I am in charge of obviously the control and the contracts that we might handle. Today we're or as this process, we're asking for the license for the school and we're going to plan on partnering with Vinwood
Catering and and others, Northshore Bartending and other certified bartender service. Those are outsourced as a contract and um if we have certified bartenders um that takes the liability away from this nonprofit and the school. So our our plan is not for me to be serving alcohol, although I am TIP
certified and all um all the other um workers from the culinary hospitality shops are also going to be certified and every student that steps on foot and works in that will be also certified. So this is more of a a a knowledge so we all know exactly what the safety and um
liability is to be around and being serving alcohol. When it comes to storage or maintaining liquor, we have a state-of-the-art building. It's a smart building. Uh it's it's set up with motion sensors, cameras, card readers, and so we do have the ability to have a
very uh strong control that if anything is uh any doors that are opened, um any any areas that are accessed that are are not permitted, we can be notified right away. And as I said, there will always be security on site during school hours, there will be a a Damas police officer
that we have there every day. And then outside of that, we have four security officers, three which are um retired corrections officers who who are very wellqualified on the security side. So um you know with me with the team that I have to support me, I feel I feel confident that we can keep this safe and
secure. Okay. I hope I wasn't in clear in my question. My question is not about the security of the building. My question is not about the security of people wandering around where they shouldn't be. My question is about liquor service and controlling the liquor service itself. when you have an you plan on an outdoor patio with a fire
uh you know a fire pit and you're going to have people outside, it's a very large it's 2100 ft. It's it's almost as large as the interior space that you're going to occupy. So you're almost double in that case and just for the board's um uh consideration, people's consideration
just to put it in perspective. They're looking for a seating capacity of 200 people inside the interior walls according to the application. And if I get any of that wrong, please offer clarity. And it's basically the seating area. The entire
area is 8,000 square ft, but that's including the basin, is including service areas, bathrooms, so on and so forth. The actual sitting down in the hall area, and I'm going to call it a hall. I don't mean any disrespect if you don't like that. Um, is is 3,000 square ft. Now, to put that into perspective,
that's larger than the Polish Club main room. That's about that's as large as the uh f the bottom floor of the um Davisport Yach Club when they open both sides and it's about uh 35% of the
ballroom. So just letting people have in their minds a perspective of how large we're talking. This is not a small venue at all. Um my concern is again with liquor with liquor control. I'm actually not worried about um you would not let students serve. that would jeopardize
your your license. I'm not worried about that. Telling me they're tip certified. They're not 18. They don't do service. They don't do I I I'm not thinking that's calming my concerns. They're not serving. They're not touching alcohol. They wouldn't be
there. I agree with you. It would be you hiring Vinwood. I have a concern about that. You're telling me you're chip certified. You're there on the on all the events that are from outside. Are you going to be the person there? Are you going to be at every one of the events? Yeah. I don't think you can
commit to that. Or a dele or a delegation from our team? Yes. And is the delegation from your team all tip certified? Anybody who works in that facility will be tips. Okay. But my concern is we're not we know about you, but you're telling us you're not doing liquor service. You're not in
controlling the liquor. You're not controlling the sales. You're not controlling the stock. You're handing it off to another third party. I have a concern about that. Um, and it's something I'm offering these thoughts so that you can come back to us if we don't if we decide a table or don't decide
tonight so that you can come prepared to help me relieve those concerns. Um, I also have a couple of other concerns. The neighbors obviously I saw a nice uh Larkham Event Center potential concerns and responses. How many neighbors
participated in this? So I was given the phone number of two abutters who had some questions and the one woman that I spoke to, we went through these questions together and some of the answers are what we reached
together. The other a butter I called twice. I left my phone number twice. I thought maybe there might be some people here that had questions and it could be a way that we could kind of get ahead of a question that another butter has already asked and that we've answered.
But I did want to just go back if you don't mind to um who's qualified on the staff because that's a good question. Ryan's not the only TIPcertified person um who would be part of this group. The um superintendent director is
TIPcertified. She also is certified in serve safe alcohol and serve safe food management. The um qualifications of our chef is tipcertified, serve safe certified and our second chef is um tipcertified and serve safe certified as
well. So there are qualified staff members who are in the hospitality industry and in the culinary industry who maintain those certifications for their professionalism. granted and I appreciate that, but they're not going to be on the floor that night. If the chef is there, he's going to be in the back in the kitchen.
He or she are going to be in the back in the kitchen. They get tip certified like my daughter is a chef because she uses wine and alcohol in their in their uh in their pairings and in their food. So, I'm I'm I still think there is a level of distinction that I need clarity on about whether you can hold a liquor
license for which you're not actually ser you yourself are not these servers. You are not participating in looking to make sure someone's not over served. you're not participating in making sure that the right people are served. It's a concern and I don't want to belabor that. So, because I have some others, so
I can answer that um without belaboring it. We will be hiring certified bartenders to be the servers as we have in the past. We've worked with Northshore bartenders. Um even if our chefs are certified and on the premises for the time of the event, the bartenders are certified. They're the
ones who will be serving alcohol. And as a certified bartender through tips or serve safe alcohol, there is an awareness u component to that. And anywhere you go, any restaurant you attend, there's a serve safe or a tip certified bartender there. It's not
going to be one of our staff members. And that's the point I'm making. It's your staff members getting the liquor license, but it's not your staff members doing the work. Well, it's our it's part of the event if you hire Northshore bartenders, which we've done in the past for a one-day liquor license. And I have
I like Venuit. They're great. They do good. No disparaging them. I'm just saying there's a level of of separation here that I need clarity on from either the ABCC or to get some clarity that I feel comfortable with about the liquor license itself. Um the education part's
important. Hospitality, culinary, great. You do that now without liquor. You do that at your lunchons. You do that when you do have events. And I have no issue with those. When you have the events and come for the one day liquor license, it's for a fundraiser. You're you're performing things to help the school.
Great. I do have a concern just to finish up with the neighbors. So number one is the liquor license. Number two is the neighbors. Given the history of concerns about parking, concerns about you being in the neighborhood, concerns about whatever it might be, this is a large
ask. And saying you're inviting them to an open house after the fact doesn't serve the need of the audience of the neighbors to ask questions that could inform and educate this board in our decision. So, I'm certainly we're going
to get to the neighbor portion of this. My recommendation would have been you have an open house to invite the neighbors to discuss this proposal. This is impactful upon them. And I would have thought that that would have been a precursor to the application.
You want to respond? So yeah, and and Bonnie was just saying so of course No, I'm I'm sorry. In all full disclosure, I'm just reminding Ryan about our inspiration. Speak into the microphone, please, Bonnie. And as a facilities director, he can speak to that better than I can. Thank So, of course, this has been a long project, right? So, this
project has been going on for almost six years. Um, so the students have been building this. Um, and what Bonnie reminded me is we have just got our occupancy permit last week, right? So, I mean, this is all brand new and we already um had an event, a one-day
liquor license, went off without a hitch. What we're trying to do is bring this to you guys so you understand what our our plans are in the future. We understand there's questions. We'll we'll work with our team. team will answer any questions you might have. I understand you know the cart before the horse, but this is where we wanted to
start the discussion obviously with open to the public and open to to your board here. So, um we just last week aggressively got all of the state plumbing mechanical life safety. Our local uh fire department spent three days down there qualifying, making sure
that all life safety egresses, fire exits, fire suppression systems, everything was certified and uh signed off on. So, all of that has happened last week. So we are we are literally uh this is developing as we speak as we grow and so I hope you guys understand um we're totally understand that we knew
there would be questions. We came here prepared to obviously answer any questions we can and take back any questions you might have to our team. Great. And then the third category and then I'll I'll move on uh to other people. Um you're talking about bridal suites. You're proposing bridal suites.
You're proposing uh community events. You're proposing outside events other than school events and other than uh civic events like uh Chamber of Commerce. You you are are you going to
rent the facility for a for for to anybody who wants to pay a rental fee? It is going to be an option for the community to rent the facility for events like a bridal shower, a baby shower, a small wedding. I want to
address the 200 person capacity. That is not exactly correct because a 200 person capacity would be sitting in roles like we are here now. We could have an award ceremony for our seniors and there's a lot of family members that come to that.
It would be nice for the seniors to be able to host an award with their family members. So we could have 200 seats like this, not 200 seats around the tables. That would be a group of 120 at the max. Okay. And that's fine. I'm going by what
the application says. It says 260, but then it says 200 seating. And I'm I'm going by the numbers that you you offered in your application. My concern is this. When you have a commercial event, will you be paying all the employees, all the students, and
everybody else a fair wage? Yes. You'll be paying them as employees. The tro the students themselves. the students are working in industries that are outside of the school. If they work at an event at Essex Tech, they have to fill out a
work permit just like they do if they were working at a restaurant. And we've had students working at many different events. And as we said before, the students who would be at an event where there would be alcohol being served by a certified bartender will have two
things. they will have the serve safe certification for alcohol safe and we also for every student that works at an event a parental um letter of of um that it's okay again I'm not worried about the tip certified or liquor I'm
asking will they get a paycheck for working that night yes okay at a fair wage okay that's the question so sorry yes absolutely so we use students for uh we're a project based learning school and overseeing the facilities we use students in all aspects ects, all aspects of summer work, all aspects of,
you know, weekend and vacation work. So, um, for an example, we did have an event on Saturday. Uh, all the chefs and also the students are paid out of my payroll at a revolving account. That's why we set up the Larkin Cottage as a separate entity. So, this will be a self-sustaining business. All the money
that is brought in from the student activities will be used to pay the chefs, the students, and also any thirdparty catering or uh bartending services that are brought in. and um nonprofits aside, the school itself
is taxexempt because it's an educational program. And this is I'm going to say that this has come up with other taxexempt parties in town. I'll give you some examples. I have reached out to the town clerk to find out from the from the uh from our legal representation if the
use of a uh taxexempt location is for commercial use that opens it to be potentially uh has tax ramifications that you may have to pay taxes on those to the town of Danverse because it's a commercial
entity. This has happened at a local uh church on 114 who was selling hardwood and we had that issue. It's happened at MGH hospital where we uh engage in a pilot program because MGH while it itself is there for medical purposes and and tax exempt they were using portions
of the building for non-medical purposes. This isn't about the school itself. Um it is about the opportunity that you're actually going to be competing with other businesses in town and I want to make sure we have a fair
and level playing field. So I totally understand. I just want to speak on that a little bit. Our output at Essex Tech is not profit. It's education. And that's what we're asking for here. So, um I totally understand. Um and I hope you guys understand we're not here to make money. This is not the intent. It's
to expand our culinary and hospitality uh for real world experience. Notable and laudable, but still it has an effect on on on the taxation status of your relationship with the town and on the other uh businesses in town as
well. Of course, we would work with you on any of these tax issues. I mean, we we fully understand. We're not trying to skirt under or or do anything quick. So, if that's the wishes, we'll we'll work through that with you and uh work to So, those are my three concerns. My concern is getting together with the neighbors
ahead of time and getting to getting you may not get 100% agreement. I wouldn't expect you might, but thoughtful just dialogue with it before we approve, not after we approve. and uh concern about uh the the liquor license authority who
it's going to and concern is about commercialization. Thank you. Was that Gardner? I am. Thank you. Thank you, Moren. Yeah, I um I think it's beautiful, but I do share the same concerns as everybody, you know, with
alcohol being on school premises. Um you know, it is a concern, but you have explained that. Um, I like what Gardner said about having the open house before for the neighbors. I think you said put the cat before the horse. I think that probably would have been a better idea
because then the neighbors um could talk about the traffic. You should could show them the traffic, the parking. Um, you know, we've had other complaints about the school cutting through the neighborhood. And the other thing is about the noise. You know, um, the
neighbors might be concerned with the noise with that too. Um, so I would probably like to see this come back too. Thank you. So specifically, what hours of operation are you asking for?
Typically when we give a license, there's hours. We know what the closing time is, the days of the week. So do you have specifics? So within some of the questions and answers that were in the packet that we gave out, um we want to be respectful of
the neighbors and the events would be closed the but the any kind of entertainment would end at 10:00. Um not any later. Um, the event we could say until 11 just because people would be working there cleaning up, but the
alcohol will stop being served on a weekend night at 1000 p.m. at the latest. So, typically we ask a restaurant, a bar to stop serving half hour before closing. So, take that into
consideration. We can do an hour. stop an hour before 9:00, 10 o'clock. If the event was scheduled until 11, this is what we've had with some of our other events. It would be scheduled till 11:00, but the
entertainment and the bar closes at 10:00. Okay. Days of the week, those events would mostly be scheduled probably for a Saturday. We don't have any events on our calendar. We haven't advertised or anything about an option
for a center because we need to make sure we get all of our ducks in a row before we do that. There could be an event in the afternoon for or breakfast for the chamber or some other local organizations. Um we do partner with some of our town managers to have their meetings there. Those wouldn't
necessarily be alcohol-based, but they could be taking place in the Larkin. So you keep mentioning breakfastes. I've never been to a Northshore business breakfast where alcohol is served. No, there wouldn't be
a breakfast wouldn't have alcohol, right? So, there would be a beginning time to start serving. So, you want to think about that. No service before such and such an hour, right? So that what I'm trying to do is focus in
on when we expect to have events and what the hours of operation or service will be. If I could So I think uh our goal is not to have alcohol events um during the week. Um absolutely not during school hours, right? And I think that's what
the neighbors want to hear. Yes, absolutely. So most likely it would be after school, weekends, school vacations, things like that. So when you talk about the hours of um serving um we could absolutely um put that together so you guys fully understand that. But I think what Bonnie was sharing is that this this center is going to be this is
a lot more than alcohol based, right? This is a community center that's going to be used hopefully every day by different groups in the community. So I I didn't want you guys to be confused. We don't plan on serving mimosas at the uh chamber breakfast, but understanding that if we did have a private entity or a group that wanted to come in on a
Saturday or Sunday or school vacation uh for breakfast or brunch, that's something that we might entertain. Okay. And while we're not on the next issue of the entertainment license, you're applying for seven days. So, I think you want to
uh clarify that as well uh when you come back. And we're not doing that just right now. So, at this time, uh, this is a public hearing. I'll open up to the public. The ground rules are this. One person at a time, go to the podium. Address the questions to the chair,
please. Who wants to go first? The young lady behind you. Me? No, behind you. She got a hand up first. Oh, unless he asks us. My name is Barbara Santerella. I was the senior citizen that was threatened with
a no trespass letter by Essex Tech. I'm a neighbor. I live on Preston Street and I've been dealing with Essex Tech for years. Every morning the traffic goes by my street 30, 40 miles an hour. They're
saving a minute to get to school. I honestly I don't care if the kids drink at school. That doesn't affect me at all. What bothers me is the attitude of the school. How they totally
just don't listen to the neighbors or the town. They don't care about us. They don't lift a finger to help the town. Many of you remember a year or two ago when the students were parking all over the streets. Did the school do anything?
No, they did not. It took months of neighbors, the people in this room, writing hundreds of emails with scores of pictures and video to the select board and to the school showing the dangers and what was happening in our
street. So, the town had to use its resources and for the first time ever make residentonly parking area around the school. Okay, the baseball field. Who put the corner where it is on
Preston Street? I am so glad I don't live a few houses down. Those people put up with the people park all over Preston Street. There's hundreds of spaces available at the school near the
baseball field. Does the school say, "Oh, please park on our grounds." No, they park all over Preston Street. They block the way. Sometimes a fire truck can't can't get down there. Fans urinate on lawns around there. Baseballs come
into their yard like missiles. Foul balls go over. Does the school care? No. I've written to the guy, the athletic director, saying, "Hey, can't you just have your people park on campus?" No. I don't get any response. No. Who am I?
No, but they do listen to the law. So once the signs went up, once the town spent their money, did all their work, and put up the signs, the students stopped parking. The baseball thing is still a mess. And guess what, Barbara?
Look this way, please. Oh, sorry. Um, the bit with the snow, I asked Ryan. I measured it out on on Google Maps. I forget it was three or 400 ft. It's adjacent. I I walk up Preston Street
onto 62 and down Apprentice in Gran View. Okay. Every day I walk. That's what I do. Come rain or shine. And I couldn't do it this winter because that 300 ft strip of sidewalk was not plowed.
Now I asked nicely. I asked I've been asking for years and send pictures. Okay. We used to as a walker have a little bit of a lane where I could go, but they took that out when they put the school in to make the left turn lane to go down apprentice. Okay. So, what would
it Well, you heard Ryan tonight. Well, it's not our responsibility. It's a state road and the town should do it. Period. They make no effort whatsoever to be a good neighbor. And so, what do we get out of it? What do the neighbors get out of it? more
traffic, more noise. So, I just doesn't make any sense to me. Why should we do anything at all for that school? And that's all I have to say. Thank you. Thank you, Barbara. Next. Yes, ma'am. Good job. Hi there. My name is Kathleen Sherber.
live at one Grand View Road, which is the house that abuts what you guys call the old gym gymnasium. Um, so for years, you know, it's always either the school buses are parked 30 ft from the house and you're dealing with that at 5:30 in the morning. And then finally after
years, they said, "Okay, we'll get rid of the school buses." And they put students there, which was really great because now their alarms are going off and they're screaming in the morning, but okay, whatever it, you know, I have to live there. This past um fall, the
school put in these big flood lights everywhere that were directly in my bedroom and kitchen. And when I did call Ryan, um he dismissed me and said that his major concern is the safety of the school. And it just, you know, it's so
ironic that we're here tonight with somebody whose major concern is the safety of the school asking for a liquor license, but that's, you know, neither here nor there. They're going to do what they're going to do. But the thing is that road where that um Lockin Center
was built. That's they can put a sign there. Don't enter. Doesn't matter. Cars are in and out of there constantly. Again, my house abuts where the old gymnasium is. So, trust me, I know there's cars there constantly. So, I
would like to know what the guarantee is that the cars that are in the parking lot that are attending an event are going to guarantee go out onto 62 and not go down that country road that leads right to my back door. It's it is a pain
in the neck the traffic from kids partying there at night to graduations when they all gather back there to do whatever. It's noisy. I mean, I know graduation is only one time a year, but when you think of an event hall just yards down the road, I want to be
blocked from that. I want to know what they're going to do to prevent that traffic from going towards the old gym and then taking a right out onto 62. What can can be done to guarantee that
all that traffic is going to flow out where the locking cartage is and that's it. Thank you. Thank you. Next. Anyone else? Yes, sir. Hi, my name is uh John Tivan. I live at
Arentice Road. Welcome. Um Mike, a quick concern. Um, I don't understand why they need to um store alcohol in a building that might not be monitored all the time. I know he said they got cameras and card
readers and all that stuff. I think I think we're looking at something that might cause some trouble down the line. It is still I I know it's still a school property and you're going to be storing alcohol there and stuff like that. Uh when I used to work for the company I work for, I ran a lot of events. And
when we had a caterer come in, the caterer was licensed. They had a bartender and they had servers that could serve alcohol. And they stocked our bars. I don't know why they couldn't do or think about something like something like doing something like that. When they was it Vinwood, you said
the name of the um uh caterers that you guys use. Do they do they supply alcohol? If you were to ask them, they supply alcohol and it's locked up in the cottage on the property at Glenn Magna. They you do do that. Yeah. Okay. You have no troubles
or anything like that. I mean, but that Glen Magna isn't really a school, you know, with kids on it, you know. It's a historic building. Yeah. I'm just I'm just thinking that, you know, they're a kid. I mean, I don't know. Well, you ask. I'm just telling you what we do. Sure. Okay. All right. Well, that's just my concern. And that's all I'm thinking about right now after Okay. Uh, a lot of
my questions are answered, but that was okay. Thank you. Anyone else? Yes, ma'am. Hi, I'm Ann Prrowy. I live at 532 Maple Street. Um, I have a huge concern. I'm a teacher myself uh about the alcohol on
the premises even with a liquor license because I've lived in this house for 20 years. And even though there's supposed to be people that watch the kids in the parking lot, I see the kids in the parking lot
because I live right next to it. They do donuts in the parking lot. Um they throw trash in the parking lots. So, how am I supposed to feel comfortable with a a new facility, with
a wedding venue or a bridal venue or uh whatever venue that allows alcohol in the parking lot that I live next to, that I've uh invested my my
home and my family, my kids, not to mention there are kids that live on this street that um these people are going to be driving down the street after an event. Um I I have major concerns about
that. I I don't feel that there is enough security when it comes to the roads and I know that I do I love the school and I that's
why I chose to live next to it because I grew up on a farm. But, um, you know, if you're going to have all these kids in a parking lot or you're going to have a facility and you're going to have a an event and you're going to have alcohol,
um, it probably should not be on Route 62 next to all these homes with kids. Uh, I've just have a lot of reservations about that and the sound.
So, thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Sorry, my back is like Hi, my name is Suanne Patton and I live at 531 Maple Street which is across the street from the Larkin building. Uh it is a beautiful building and um you know I've
been up to the school for lunches and the kids are all really great but my concerns you know I I guess I don't really quite understand how this works. The building is built by the kids in the school and the school owns it, but now they're going to have a venue there and
it's going to be priv kind of like private. So, they're not going to be respond. So, I don't know. It kind of baffles me how this is going to work. For one thing, in this little paper that we got says, you know, it it's it's going to be limited to 120 people. Well,
it doesn't sound like that. that is limited to 120 guests inside a building that is serving alcohol with minors. Well, not minors, but you know, young kids that are there, you know, whether
they're serving food or whatever, they're there. The alcohol is there. There's no other schools around the area that allow alcohol in the school. I mean, I took a mixology course at Northshore Community College years ago and they couldn't even bring alcohol into the school. So, what makes this so
different? Why does this particular school get a 7-day liquor license with a 7-day entertainment license? Now, I know they have that big area outside. If you're going to put 120 people in the If
it only fits 120 people, then you're going to have entertainment. Where are they going? Are they be on the roof? You know, I mean, they're going to take up space. The building is the building is large enough for 264 people I believe. Right. So that's includes the
bartenders, the caterers, etc. Right. That's a pretty big amount of space that can hold a lot of people. The parking I mean I'm right across from the parking lot. I dealt with the school bus thing for years trying to get responses from
quite a few people and not getting them. Well, finally they moved the buses. So we're out of that mess. Thank God. But I think this is going to add a lot of traffic. It's going to add, you know, you've got sports going on on the weekends. You've got baseball, you've
got soccer, you've got football, you've got all other things with lots of pe lots of young people around. And these people are going to be in this venue being served alcohol. And I'm not saying they're going to barrel us down 62, but you never know. You know, I think it's a
safety issue. It's a big venue. Now, when they want when there was talk in town about um you know the possibility of the barn at Endicott Park turning into a wedding venue that was shut down just because of the fact as far as I know because of children. Well, we these
are children in this school. There are children in the neighborhood. There's tra the traffic is horrendous as it as it is already. you know, 2:40 comes in the afternoon and, you know, don't go anywhere near 62 when those kids are coming out of that parking lot cuz it's, you know, the
wheels, the trucks, the, you know, it's a big to-do and if you complain, nobody listens. You know, we're neighbors. We've been there. I've been there for since 85 and and nothing's changed. You know, they've never contacted us. you know, this we know that this has been in
the works for a long time, but there's never been any communication with the neighbors about this. So, we kind of almost feel like it's like, okay, so these people are doing this. The school, it's a wonderful school, don't get me wrong, but it's like, okay, is this a done
deal? because we've heard, you know, nothing about these plans of, you know, it being, you know, it's a school thing, but it's not really a school thing because they're an LLC and this one's, you know, they're hiring this one and they're hiring that one and they're not going to be responsible. So, what's the deal? It's it's it's it's pretty
concerning. And the big the big thing is is the alcohol. No school allows alcohol and I don't I don't think it's right. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. Yes, sir. Thank you.
Sorry. Hello everyone. Ru Velasquez, Prison 7. And my question is so much about the alcohol in the kids. However, um the pot there's a conflict of interest between the preferred um cater which is Vinwood I believe um and the legal license. So by what by what I
gather the uh the L is going to be an LLC independent so like nonprofit create their own space their own revenue so the kids just keep on learning and keep on moving forward. and the self self sustainable which is obvious admirable um but the liquor license like Gardner
said earlier uh who's going to be on the legal license and if the space they're looking to do it's a welcome for everybody so you can bring your own cake if you like uh because they have their own legal license however earlier I believe that that the prefer um k was
vinwood so well that means that even though the LLC lining has the um legal license they could only be used with vinwood What if I want to rent the space to bring my own um cake with my own friends and to throw a party for my birthday? Can I do that? I have to hire
only the Vinwood. So, that would be my question. Thank you. That's a good question. Bob, you want to answer that? Are you going to only use Vinwood or can a guest bring their own caterer? And there's no right or wrong answer. What is the answer? There is not. I hope. Okay. So, anybody that
would like to bring their own cake to an event, that would not be something that would be not allowed because Vineyard Binwood was doing the catering. Nor would it be something that we would say no to if our culinary students were you hosting the event and doing the work
with the chefs. So, this is a work in progress for everyone. But when you meet with a customer potentially to have an event, usually the person that is working for the event tries to work with the customer. There are certain things
that the customer would want. A certain kind of cake, a certain color napkin, um, could I have a violin in the building? If I had my own entertainment, could I bring someone in? These are all things that will be worked on by a case-byase basis. So, there is some
flexibility. for that. Thank you. Anyone else with questions in the back? Saw two hands go up. Who's getting up? Go ahead, sir. Please. No. Go ahead.
Uh, ma'am, I call on the people who speak, not you. I'm sorry. I was just trying to be polite, sir. It's still through the chair. Go ahead, sir. Hi. Excuse me. My name's Ed Fallon. I live on Hazen Avenue. Um, when I first heard about this,
um, being related to school events, civic events, sounded like not a bad idea. Now, I understand that it's open to private events. I keep hearing bridal showers, whatever. Um, Gardner mentioned the size of the patio,
21,00t. Um, open till 11:00 p.m. Entertainment. There are houses. I know it's on a state highway, but there are houses next door and across the street down Preston Street. Uh we can hear the po I live on Hazen A. We can hear the public address at football games from my
house. The sound travels. So I'm thinking and I haven't heard much about this tonight. I'm thinking Saturday night open till 11:00 outside on the patio. If there if there's a 2100 seat patio outside feet square foot patio
outside, there's going to be entertainment out there. So, I'm listening to a band or whatever till 11:00 at night on a Saturday night as well. So, that's my concern. Right. They said they'd stop at 10:00. Entertainment and serving. The stopping service at 10:00 and entertainment would stop at
10, too. Okay. We'll see. We'll see if that happens. Well, we we'll decide that. driver will be there with the starboard. Good. All right, ma'am. Are you ready? Are you ready? Yes, sir. Excuse me. My name is Kelly D. Young Donlin. I'm a
resident of 592 Maple Street. So, I'm a direct botter to Essex Tech, also formerly known as the Aggie. I've had the privilege of living next door to this amazing school for 27 years. I'm also a certified career tech educator and a registered nurse who is board
certified in school nursing. I have significant concerns about this proposal. Um, and just a couple of questions about the umbrella of career tech education that I've been hearing this evening about how the children are going to be using this as an educational
experience. Are the children or excuse me, the students going to be present at every event? Are the children going to be having a curriculum-based objective learning um program when they're at this event? I
think that there's a large umbrella for a wedding venue in a residential neighborhood. And I think that the concern I have with Essex Tech at this point, and again, I've lived in this school across from the school for 27 years. I worked with the prior
superintendents on the school that's built across the street. My husband and I both did. There's no one who loves these kids more than us. I've said it over and over again. They're the hardest working, greatest, most dedicated students I've ever met. Um they're
incredible. But this is not for the students. In my opinion, this is for a venue that is outrageous in scope. And you know the concern I do have is under here enforcement and oversight. It says
we are committed to transparent communication with that if this project legitimately started six years ago that's what Mr. Mongad said where's the communication been over the last 72 months when I worked previously in 2012
to work on what the Larkin Cottage was going to be. It was going to be a center of learning. There was supposed to be classes for adults. There was supposed to be classes for children. It was not supposed to be quite simply, and please
excuse my straight talk, a bar on a Saturday night 365 days a year. This is a blank check with absolutely no oversight. Who do they rent to? Who do they choose to rent to? They also said, "This is a community
center we expect to use every day." As one of my wonderful neighbors said, "We have a problem with encroachment." Again, 27 years, I have never, my husband and I have never had issues with Essex Tech. Up until this recent
administration, over the last three to four, five years since COVID, that debacle, it was horrific for these children. We should probably work on the child's mental health from that more so than opening a bar, but that's a different topic. There's an encroachment issue. We
know about the parking. The parking was not rectified. It took so much effort to rectify that. My u my my friend and neighbor Kathy spoke about the light. We have industrial lighting in both parking
lots that is on from dusk to dawn. They are huge. They are against the law. They break the light ordinance. They are encroaching on our property. They do not stop. And then the other issue is this Larkin property. This is for the
children to actually learn. They will not be at a wedding. They will not be at a whatever they want to rent. And who chooses this? And quite simply, and I will end with this. I was unaware that the superintendent, director of Essex Tech, and the director of facilities were
resigning because they need to now work on their LLC that they've just made. You cannot do both. So, I hope and I thank you for being here and for giving us this time to chat and talk about this, but there are far too many questions that have not
come close to being answered. And again, I'm in the profession. I'm a career tech educator. I'm a registered nurse, board certified in school nursing. I've been doing this for 30 years for nursing and six years for teaching and this is not appropriate in the setting in any way, shape or form
and I hope you honored that. Thank you very much. Thank you. Anyone else in the back? Mr. McKenna. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. David McKenna precinct a town meeting member. Not a neighbor directly, but it's my precinct.
A lot of questions have been asked here tonight. I think there's a lot that still still needs to be discussed. Someone did raise the issue of light pollution. We do have bylaws about that. Uh building inspector should be able to look into that and hopefully give some relief. Um they should have had a
meeting with the neighbors long ago. I think they should do that before they go any further in this hearing process. Um, I know there's a question about um students uh who will be acting as waiters or waitresses being tipp certified and why if they're not
handling alcohol. I think it's probably a good idea to have them out there. They're in among the customers who may not be going up to the bar to get another drink. Someone might be getting it for them and they might see someone that's been over drinking and be able to tip off the bartender that there's a
problem. So, I don't see a problem with that. But um as far as storage, yes, we store at Glenn Magna. We've had attempted breakin. So we're going to have sto liquor stored on site. It better be a good secure location. Again,
a lot a lot of questions still need to be answered. So take that under advice, Mr. Chairman. Thank you. Thank you. One last person. Uh sorry, over here before.
I'm the last. Someone else can go. That's what I'm stating. New information, new information, new questions. I'm John Donlin, 592 Maple Street. Um, the applicant has changed five times tonight. I've heard the applicant as the
school. I've heard the applicant as a LLC. I've heard the applicant as a DBA. I've heard the applicant as Vinwood. Okay. So, uh if it Oh, I've also heard it as a nonprofit and uh the LLC is not
a nonprofit. That would have to be registered as a nonprofit and approved as a nonprofit. This is a limited liability corporation with Heidi Vitio and another person from the school as the managers, not Ryan Monks. Okay, that's the uh the entity that's applying for the license, right? Can can a DBA
apply for the license? I don't know. So, uh that's one thing. And I believe this is going to be a full-bore for-profit enterprise. It's not a nonprofit. It's not registered as a nonprofit. It's registered as an LLC.
U I put forth minutes from the Essex Tech website to this board on Friday, which showed their intent to derive revenue from the operation. On Monday morning when I went into town hall to receive the application for the liquor license, Essex Tech had removed those
minutes from their website. I would like to see if somebody can go on record tonight and read those minutes. It's a short paragraph and you all have it. Thank you. referred a lot from the the neighbors and I'm sure that um it would be prudent
for the open house on the 22nd before we even consider having them back before us. That's agreeable with the other members of the board. Any comments? Before we do that, we need to close the
public hearing. I'm sorry. That's okay. Chairman, I move we close the public hearing. Thank you. Is there a second? I'll second. All in favor? I I Thank you, Jim. My comments are I'm I'm willing to uh table the application until they can come back to us with more details about the questions we've asked. One of the um details I would want to be
that I was actually triggered by a neighbor's comment, which I'm glad we had them because they see it with a different lens than I do. They see it with the lens of being a neighbor. That is the outside space is large. You could put 50, 60, 100 people on that patio. What is their intent? because
it's not detailed in the application of entertainment, outside entertainment, outside music. I I I understand that most of us who don't live next to a school view it as an occasional thing, a graduation. Sure, kids should celebrate. We
understand that. Whatever a sporting event, but this has the potential of every it and and that's the worst case scenario is every day. But let's say it's every weekend. you're going to have 50 to 100 events and that's impactful on the neighbors, not as a
one-time event. So, I would look forward to offering to table this, let them come back, let them get their answers, decide if they want to have an open house with the neighbors and try to work out some of the situations before returning to it. I would not I would not be able to make a favorable decision tonight. Thank
you. Any other comments? Uh, quick comment. A few weeks ago, we sat here and um questioned uh the Berry Tavern about a speaker. He gave us a good uh layout of where a speaker was going to go and he made it very clear
that we neighbors would be able to access him or somebody. This is this is the total opposite. Um, so there's a lot of work that needs to be done and uh the neighborhood can't be beat up on this because uh a nonprofit profit's going to
move in and do do what they're going to do. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Of course. I agree, Chair, that we should table it. Thank you. So, um, we're going to take a vote in a moment to table it to a certain date specific. Um, I'm going to want to see a map of
the parking. Um, the traffic flow in and out during the events as requested by one of the neighbors. You got gardener's questions earlier. De's questions. I know Ryan, you're making copious notes. If you forget anything, you can reach out to
the clerk who takes tremendous minutes. Got it. Um, so we need a motion to table this to a date specific. Mr. Chairman, on the number five, and I think we're going to have to do them separately. Under number five, a public hearing
behind theory about the application for an alcohol license. I'm going to motion to table this to the until a time that the applicant is ready to come back to us. Is that acceptable, clerk? I think a
date would be better. Would you like the first meeting in June or the second meeting in June? I would ask through you to the applicant. Do they think they can accommodate uh get the answers by the the first meeting? Third 3rd of June. Yes. Yes. Okay. I amend that to be the 3rd of June. Okay.
Table this until the 3rd of June. Is there a second? Second. Discussion hearing none. All in favor? I I opposed. None. Thank you. All right. So on number six, do you want to go fourth or do you want to come back at June 3rd to present
on the entertainment piece? I I mean I think you these are kind of hand in hand. So yeah, I think that we you're going to get the same answer that. So I agree. So I think we should handle these together. Okay. What? Go ahead. We're going to table number six. That's fine. I did a um
there was a legal ad requirement for the entertainment license. So if you do your public hearing piece, then you could also um table this to that same date as well. But you should um address any public comments on this item as well. All right. So very quickly, what do you
want for entertainment license? So again, just to support uh any events we have. Again, same kind of hours as we talked about for the liquor. Um this is again just to kind of uh support any any different entertainment that the the guests would like. So as Bonnie
mentioned, we don't expect the rock band uh outside entertainment. That is not our goal. The the entertainment would be inside most likely like a DJ for a wedding or as Bonnie said, maybe a violinist with a you know for a smaller event. But absolutely interior only, no
entertainment outside. And um and I think that's that's our plan. I work very closely with uh Chief L the both level and the chief of uh fire. So you anything we do is right in line with
what you know with uh law enforcement. So um of course when it comes to noise violations or anything like that, we we would be uh punctual and if not, we would be held accountable. Okay. What's we have? It is a public hearing. Um, if I'll allow two questions if
there's anyone that didn't get to speak before wants to ask a question. Yes, you did speak before, but go ahead. Thank you again. My name is Kelly Dang Dolman, a boner 592 Maple Street. Has the zoning for this area changed? Are we
now mixed use? Because as far as I was understanding, it was residential. So now we have entertainment again 365 days a year that they're asking to have a license to do that with no accountability. If they were to have a single event like they mentioned the
lark and gala I love when that tent goes up every May and I know that the kids are graduating. It's a wonderful time but it's a one-time event. They have giving us absolutely no information on how often they're going to have this this facility being used because I do
believe it is going to be all the time. I believe that every Saturday night for the rest of my life that I live in this home, that I'm blessed to live in this home, there's going to be a party next door. And again, the zoning question, how do they decide to put in an event
facility without any question of zoning because it is a residential neighborhood. So, the liquor license is one piece, but this entertainment piece is the noise pollution. And 10:00 in the evening is very late for families who have young
children or for individuals who need to be up and go to work the next day. Not everyone works Monday through Friday. So I think that that needs to be a question that needs to be answered too. Exactly. And and I don't know how the zoning works, but I see this little entity here in the midst of the zoning
that wants to have a open check to do basically whatever they choose without any oversight. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? Motion to close the public hearing, please. Motion to close public hearing. Second. All in favor? I opposed. None.
Okay. Um what's the will of the board? Mr. Chairman, similar to five, I move we table the hearing until the first week in June. The first meeting in June, pardon me, June 3rd. Is there a second? Second. All in favor? I oppose? None. Thank you. Thank you, Ryan Bonnie. Thank
you. Okay. Thank you for all your questions out there. Yep. What's that? We'll keep going or you want to take five? No, we'll keep What's it only 8 o'clock? We'll keep going. You need a You need a break? I'm good. Okay, thank you. Kathy, you need a break? I'm fine. Thank you. Oh, wonderful. Okay. Thank
you. We already did seven. Oh, we got Brian next. You're right. Yeah, we can take five because I don't want to short change Brian. Brian, we're going to take five minutes. I'm only about five or six minutes, by the way.
I'm very quick tonight. So, your call. You're go. Go. Go. Introduce yourself. Sure. Do we want to let some people No. Five. No. Oh, you need No, they need five. You'll
have to wait. Can you um Okay, welcome back Danvvis. Here we go. The select board will have a report on transportation and land use by planning director Brian Sinsky as part of the resilient Danver. Hi. Hi there. Brian Zelli. No, no,
you're not. I'm Tanya Jenkins. I'm the safety and sustainability coordinator. Thank you. Welcome again. Thank you. And I'm just here to introduce our champion that's going to be talking about the land transportation and land use. So just to before Brian gets up ju just for
the people at home briefly the champions why we have champions because it's for the Casper plan which is the climate action sustainability preservation and resiliency plan that the town has adopted. And there's oh I thought you
just had it up there. There's there's six yeah the different focus areas and there's champions in each of those areas that are updating the progress on the um items that they have chosen as things they need to do for the town and it's
all towards meeting the green opportunities. Okay, very good. Thank you. Yeah, you've already heard from everybody except these bottom three. So tonight you'll get transportation and land use and next month is solid waste. Okay. Thank you. Thank you.
Good evening again. Hello. Um so thanks for having me. Um it's thanks to the vision of the select board uh and the leadership that we were able to actually create this plan. Um this uh this plan uh has six focus areas. Um,
and each focus area represents an important aspect of the community that needs to be addressed in order to discuss greenhouse gas emissions and increase climate resilience and prep preparedness. Um, the planning process identified specific goals and strategies
and actions and metrics for those focus areas. Um, we are essentially the task masters for each of the champions of these six are essentially the task masters of of helping uh this happen. So,
um, the plan was finalized in May of 2023, uh, and it discusses all types of hazards related to stress on humans, wildlife, our water supply, the air we breathe, and how to mitigate those risks. Uh, I've been tasked with managing the transportation and land use section, and I'm here to highlight this
portion of the plan and provide just a quick status update on the three action items that were in the plan. So action 1.1 was to reduce solo car trips and promote zerocarbon mobility options like cycling, create connections
between existing transit stops and employment or economic centers. So where we are currently, uh there's a transportation needs assessment that is ongoing. Uh we're going to be finishing that that project next month. Uh new bus routes um will be going through downtown
and throughout Danvers starting in February 2026 that will take you to um the Liberty Tree Mall, NH Market Basket. Um that uh that whole corridor along the Endicott Street corridor. Um and then
the Salem Skipper um is another program that is currently under a pilot program that provides service to all uh everywhere in Salem and several key places in Danver. So for $2, you can go to any place in Danver. So you can get
to if you can uh start in downtown Northshore or Northshore Community College or the Liberty Tree Mall. So if you can get to downtown, you can get to any place in Salem for $2. Um it's uh like Uber Lift but a pool. It's like a bus, a
van. Um the expansion of the rail trail is ongoing and has been an extremely successful project. Um the where we are currently in terms of this time frame um for all of all of that action was about a 1 to three years. We're about 20% complete. The
expected benefits to Danvers are improved air quality, less vehicle congestion, less traffic, increased parking availability, and increased transportation choices for our residents. Um, our next one, so again,
there's only three actions that I'm going through this evening. This is the the second one. So action 2.1 this is establish a program and incentive that follows the principles of quality of place public realm improvements that p
prioritize p pedestrian infrastructure. So as I said uh we're doing a transportation needs assessment right now. Part of that has to uh there was a a survey that was uh that was done. Uh typically we would want about 1% of the population. So that's
roughly about um 300 that would be like 300 responses is that we were looking for at least to be statistically significant. Um we're just about at 500. So um it was a good turnout. Um one of the biggest things of that community
need that transportation needs assessment is that people don't feel comfortable walking in a lot of places in town and they want to. So for for in terms of solo car trips, biking, walking, uh or or or doing carpool, most
people just want to be able to comfortably walk around town uh more than any other mode of transit. It's very clear that that's what they would like to do. Um and there's just not enough safe uh sidewalks all over town. In certain car in certain areas, it's
great and in most areas it isn't. Um in terms of where we are with this um implementation time frame is about one to two years. Um percent complete so far is about 25%. Um there has been improved pedestrian safety and comfort for the sorry the benefits would
be improved pedestrian safety and comfort for all users not just in downtown. Um but the the big thing for pedestrian infrastructure downtown is that it really does help the businesses. The last action that was in the plan is
dealing with EV adoption, electric vehicle adoption. Um, so to accelerate that among Stanver's residents, businesses, schools, and municipal departments. So, actually since 2022, there has been a commercial EV charging incentive and a fuel efficient vehicle
policy is ready for approval for our town-owned vehicles. Um, installations of EV charging has been at uh at our engineering facility over at Pur Town Hall. all the police station um water department fire department and EV school
buses are continue to be explored but uh tough nut to crack in terms of the finances um where we are here uh we're actually a little bit further along this we're about 50% complete the expected benefit to Danvers is again improved air quality
reliable charging network for public and private vehicles so this is kind of just a very quick small snapshot um of the transportation and land use section Uh you're going to be hearing you heard about the solid waste um next week. Uh
this project is a is a large one with many many different actions, goals, priorities. Um and it is really taking uh almost the whole team here to to try to get this off the ground and moving forward. So I'd be happy to take any
questions. Okay, Moren, any questions? Um, no, I know that you've been working very hard on this and um, it's a big project. Um, I'm looking forward to um, I parking is is the key for me. Yeah, we definitely want and I'm sorry and I like
that. We want the businesses to prosper. We want I like to walk around town, you know, that's what we want. We want people to feel feel comfortable um, and go into the businesses.
um going to the different restaurants, the shops, you know. So, I'm really looking for the town to um have more businesses and and more parking. Yep. No, wider sidewalks, um comfortable streets. These are the things that keep people in the downtown longer, keeps
them um you know, frequenting shops, going to restaurants, hanging out downtown. We really want to have that 18-hour presence downtown. We are not there yet. Um but that is what we're looking for. Well, that's some good goals. Thank you, D. Yes. No, thank you
for all you do. Um, quick question. I think it was the first point, uh, the bus route. Was that the first one? So that is what we suggesting. Is that So no, this so this is happening. Okay. So um, so we are we are currently almost
finished with our transportation needs assessment. What that is is we got a small grant um and we're working with MAPC. Like I said, one of them was is part of that was a survey, but it's really trying to figure out what people want and need in order to get around town. Most people know when they come
here, they they're driving around because there's very little or no public transit. We wanted to figure out really what are the key destinations where people are going to and what's the easiest way to get them there. So that's happening now. We'll be done in June. bus routes in terms of the 451. So that
we've been in talks with the MBTA for about six months now along with um our senator and representative uh to try to bring the bus back to Danvers. We have been successful. That is going to be uh
the full route is going to be implemented in February of this coming year. Okay. That's what I thought you were saying, but for the for the bus to be coming back to Danverse. I have not heard. It's the first time I'm hearing that. That's great. Yeah.
Thank you. Thank you. That's awesome. Are we sharing that with the public yet or it's the first I heard of it too, D, but we haven't been in talks with the MBTA for a few months. Again, I think we'll want to flesh out full details and talk to the state representatives office and state senator's office and look how
we launch that out and get the information to the public. MBTA would be the ones that are going to be putting the roots out. Um but yeah, no, this is a feather in the cap of the senator and and the rep um working working with Danvers, but um they've they have the one that led this charge. Okay. Thanks.
I just wanted to make sure that that's what you were saying because I had not heard it before. Need to have a Reuben cutting ceremony or something about that. February sounds it'll be it'll be a wonderful time of year. Thank you, Michael. Thank you. Um hi Brian. Hi,
couple of questions for you. Um, you just said wider sidewalks. Are you Is there plans to make the sidewalks wider in the center of town? No, but uh there's portions of the town that uh portions there's portions of the downtown that we are going to make more
comfortable. Um, so there uh there's been um a plan that's been provided for the front of Brothers to make that um a uh to have more seating in that area and to have a place where people feel more comfortable. The other place in town is
the freight house that's right across from the new Maple Square um development. So that's another place that's going to be kind of a third place for for more community um small community events. we're talking um but it's it's really just trying to find
other places downtown uh where there's enough space to actually enjoy enjoy yourself. Um, so that we are not going to be changing curb lines if that's what if I sorry if I uh insinuated that. But we are going to be creating two new spaces over the next
probably year to two um to to allow for more congregation um you know in the town in the downtown. Is there um a plan or idea of a bike lane in the center of town? Well, we got one.
I mean, the rail the rail trail. So, so no is the short. There's no plan to put a bike lane downtown if that's Okay. So, let me lead into the next thing. Sure. So, we have to uh try to help out the parking clerk and uh the police.
The she was uh relating that um she can't she has no enforcement to stop bicycles on the sidewalks. And with the anticipated foot traffic we're going to be having um with um the new residents that will be open, uh we we do need to
keep the bikes off the sidewalk and the electric bikes and and it's it's a double-edged sword because she can't just say go ride in the street either. There's the liability situation there. So, some of the things
we quickly discussed was markings and sign um maybe just after the bike store, after the bike trail, and maybe right through the center of town and down Elm Street where about pavement markings, some kind of sidewalk
markings to, you know, to say no bikes, no electric bikes. Uh, and then we got to we got to give her and and the police the ability to enforce that. Just thoughts so that
we can have the foot traffic that we're going to have. Uh, no. So, um, this is an ongoing issue. From what I understand, there's there's competing regulations between the town and generally, you
know, yeah, the police also doesn't want to tell a 9-year-old kid, hey, you should really be biking in the street, right? So, there this is a real pro. This is a real problem. Not that it's like catastrophic, but it's a real problem. I think what ends up needing to
happen is just a a reconcile a reconciliation of those because again there's I'm not sure which rules and regs it's not the police but there's like general there's a general bylaw related to sidewalks that that bikes are allowed on the sidewalk and that already
kind of makes it difficult right um but I see what you're saying the idea is that if we're going to be having a whole bunch more businesses a whole bunch more people walking in downtown yeah you definitely got to keep those ebikes off the sidewalk for sure going 20 20 28 m an hour. It's ridiculous. So,
understood. Thank you. Also, yes, thank you. Um I also had a question. I was educated about uh bike lanes and bike zones, too. So, I'm a little I'm a little uh not concerned. I'm catching up
obviously seeing this. And um I would think that a consideration might be made for a one side of the street bike lane with offset parking. So you park 3 ft away from the curb. You allow for a bike lane
through certain portions of town downtown, connect the rail trail to the rail trail, connect it just down Elm High in Maple Street in the downtown corridor so the people who want to use it to get to destinations, downtown businesses can do
so. I but I also so that aside you've heard two of us suggest that as a potential or should have been a could have been a thought part of this. Um I think you buried I'm I'm with D. I think you buried the lead. I think you bear the lead about the fact that
the bus route is coming back and I would actually ask the chairman to consider inviting uh Joan or Sally to our next meeting to give us an update on where that is because if if it's if all of the indicators right and if all the eyes are dotted and tees are crossed that's
tremendous news for a lot of people especially concerning multiple issues uh including development and other issues. Um, so if it's appropriate, I I I would ask that we might have them here for an update, but um I've asked for a copy of the of the
uh report uh now uh um and uh I'll go through it, but I I appreciate what you've what you've presented tonight. Thank you. Thank you. A few months ago, the representative and senator invited the
MBTA general manager, Mr. Ing, to Danvas, and we had one of the buses from the senior center and a senior center driver him and Aaron around town. as
Aaron pointed out, Maple Square, High Street, other areas of um of interest, and then we met in this room to talk about next steps. So, while Brian is hopeful, the next steps were for the
MBTA and land use and planning to sit down and hash out what can be done. He left here, Mr. uh the commissioner, general manager rather, with a positive attitude about what can be done. So, um
Brian is saying it's ready to go. I don't know that Yeah, we're we are nearing we're nearing the finish line. Well, since that meeting with um with the general manager, um we have gotten it down to the a potential route. So, we have been
meeting and we're not planning on meeting again for quite some time. So on our end I believe is done. Um in terms of an announcement we I can certainly talk with the senator and to see when they would feel comfortable uh the senator and the rep and see when they'd feel comfortable. Yeah. I'd hate to go
out there and say we got a bus route and there's still a glitch through you. Mr. Chairman, I'd recommend that we fine-tune the information and we work on announcement. We're again we're happy to have again state senator uh Joan Lovely and again state rep. Sally Karns really put a lot of effort in trying to coordinate this. So we would want to fine-tune the details and the roll out
trying to get them here before the board to update us. Thank you. Okay, Governor. That's fine by me. That's good. Yep. I'm excited about this. I'm I'm hoping it's it's it's accurate and accepted by the state as well as it is by us. Okay. Thank you, Brian. Thank you. Have
a good night. You too. Mr. Manager, can I impose upon you for let me ask the clerk for an election update. Absolutely. Thank you. Uh we wrapped up the annual town election that we held on Tuesday.
Uh we had uh 13.8% turnout, which is super high for us, which was great. Uh all of our town meeting spots have been filled except for we had a failure to elect in precinct 8. So prior to C uh
town meeting on the 20th, nope, on the 19th, uh we'll hold a caucus to try to fill that seat. So if anybody here uh or know of anybody who lives in precinct 8, we would be looking for one member to be caucused into that. All the rest of the
precincts um have been filled with the election. Um I just wanted to take a minute to thank all the poll workers um the office staff in my office, the police, the school, DPW, um the registar of voters. Um it's truly
um comforting because it's a team effort and everybody has their part. everybody knows their part um and everybody works together and that's just a um a great feeling for me as the clerk um to run an election. So, it's really helpful to have that support. So, I just want to
mention that. Thank you. Okay, manager's update. Thank you. Through you, Mr. Chairman. Again, kudos to the town clerk and her staff for a successful election season. Um, we also had finance committee meetings last week where they worked through the warrant. The finance
committee recommendations have gone out to all town meeting members and we'll post it online as well uh hopefully tomorrow. Uh, a couple other exciting items. The town is receiving a $60,000 grant um from the out of out of
schooltime youth mentoring program. Uh, this is given by the National Recreation and Park Association. It's funded by the US Department of Justice and this will be a mentoring po program run through our fund club where they'll mentor middle school kids um who are aged out of fun club but not quite ready to work
there. So, it's a good mentoring program. Um we're excited for that over the next couple years. We also received our award as being a tree city. Again, we are Tree City USA status from the Arbor Day Foundation for 2024.
uh a testament to our unwavering commitment to the planting care and celebration of trees. So, we're excited about that as well. And then the last item I have, our town manager, Jill Cahill, will start on Monday. So, we're looking forward to welcoming her. Uh we talked to the past couple days and she's eager to hit the
ground running. So, we will welcome her Monday morning at 8 a.m. And on that note, just personally, I'd like to thank this board, uh the community, and the town employees for all the help you've given me and the faith you gave me to uh steal the ship for a few months. So, thank you.
[Applause] Can we have a motion on the consent calendar, please? Make a motion for the consent calendar. Is there a second? Second. Excuse me. Yes. Were you holding for the um airport? Are we moving forward with that with just getting
information? That's not on the agenda. Yeah, it is. Not on mine. North Atlantic. North Atlantic Airways. This is what um Mark was talking about. the North Atlantic Airways. Yeah. M Mr. Chairman, if I might recommend that while there may be appreciable con
questions, this is an application for renewal that I'm certain conforms to state and and local and federal laws. Well, didn't we ask for an update on the permit and safety update? You did. Yes. Yeah. Right. But I wasn't sure whether
you wanted to hold off on that item. Oh, hold on that item with the exception of that. I accept that we may want a status update. No problem. But I don't think that that should hold up the application is my feeling. Right. We asked for an
update though the consent calendar should be approved. There was a first. Was a motion. There's a second. I made a second. Okay. All in favor? I. I. Thank you. Who was the first? Moren. Moren. Yeah. So, um, before we get into it, I a
couple of questions for the town manager. On 17 Elm Street, when we granted the, uh, right to close the sidewalk, did we address parking at all for the construction workers? I don't believe we did. It's a 2hour
parking limit on the street. Are we allowing the construction workers unfathered use of our parking or we going to hold them to two hours? If we're going to allow them unfeted parking, we should cover the
two-hour signs. It's a certain places so not to confuse people, but I think we need to have some guidelines set up because when we get down to Maple Street with that big project, parking is going to be a problem then, too.
So, can we get some clarification on parking? I'm not aware of any special access they'd have to a longer than two hours, but I'll look and confirm. Well, if if it's two hours, then we need it enforced. Uh, last month we approved a resolution from this board with our
concerns for Beverly airport. Subsequently, Mr. Zubber met with the manager and Aaron and came up with his idea of a resolution. You all received the second resolution in your packet to study and be prepared to review and vote
on at the next meeting. Right now we have two resolutions and I couldn't send through the first then a week later or two weeks later send through a second. So, we need to decide which resolution this board approves to be sent to uh the
Beverly Commission. Mr. Chairman, I did not receive one in my packet. Can I get both? You You'll get both. I can provide both. We'll email them tomorrow morning. One we approved last and your name wasn't on that for the Understandably. I understand. I'm just asking so I can
catch up and make an informed decision. Um, today the affordable housing committee got a little tour of Maple Square. Uh, beautiful building. There'll be a ribbon cutting May 29th at 10:30 on
that. And Mr. Chairman, Mr. manager. An accusation was made that on between Friday May 3rd and Monday, May 5th, the minutes for Essex Tech were removed from their website. I don't know if that's
accurate or not, but can we investigate that somewhat and see if there are minutes? And I don't know what the dates of the minutes were, but I think it was in the email that I forwarded to you. Yeah, through you, Mr. I can investigate if the minutes are online, but in terms of whether or not they took them on or off their website, I'm not saying who
did it. Are they there or missing or We can look to see if the minutes are there. Thank you. Okay. Um with that, we'll go to correspondents, closing statements. Moren, thank you, Dan. Um, first I want to
congratulate Gardenner Tras and Dan Bennett and all the candidates uh that did um run and thank you for what you do for the town. I would also like to say thank you Rodney. You've done a great
job. You know, you really have. And thank you to the clerk for running a terrific election as usual. Thank you with all the poll workers like you said and giving credit to your team. That's nice, you know. um the police, the DPW workers, custodians, everybody. So um I
really appreciate that. Um I wanted to also remind people that uh there is a deer 5K race at the high school on June 1st. Um that's always nice. Um, we did just finish the Kuanas Duck Race, which
is um a fundraiser to give out scholarships to children uh to kids. That would be great. Um, I also want to congratulate the little league um parade parade, uh the uh the baseball players, the girls softball um everybody there.
That was a terrific parade that was um u May 3rd, Saturday. Love seeing everybody there. how the town really gets together. And Danvas Cares meets um Monday. Their next meeting would be June
2nd at the high school. That's always a great um program to go to. Um it's really they've done a lot um with a lot of mental health issues and and things like that for the kids. Uh anxiety. Um,
it's it's nice to hear too, Rodney, about that $60,000 grant that that's wonderful because I know having kids when they age out of the fund club, you know, what do you do with the kids? What do they do? You don't want them just hanging around. But other than that, um, I just wanted
to thank everybody and uh, and that's it for about now. Thank you, De. Yeah, thank you, Mr. Chairman. And I send the same thanks that Morin did uh, to Rodney. Thank you. Um it's
worth repeating. Uh thank you Kati and the registars and all the volunteers um for a very well-run elections. Um I also want to thank Dver Cares RCA Judy Ryan
uh Pastor Pam and Maple Street Church uh thank our police uh for a really wellrun event uh yesterday. the light, the night purple. It was a great community event. Um, no, just trying to support people in
recovery and lift the stigma associated with substance abuse. Uh, no one can do it alone and being in a community and feeling that kind of support was really tremendous to watch. It was inspiring. Uh, I also want to take a moment to congratulate Gardner on his
re-elections. um to congratulate the chair Dan Bennett um and to all the candidate who steppp forward uh some of whom were here tonight. I saw Kevin, Natalie, and Mark.
Um you know, I just want to thank you for your commitment to serving our town. Um it it takes courage to run and we appreciate everyone who who who takes that step. Um, uh, as we move forward, I
hope you stay engaged and that we continue to be accountability partners in this work. Uh, we're all into it together. So, thank you very much. Thank you, Mike. Uh, thanks, Dan, and congrats that
you're here. I said last month I wasn't sure who I was going to be sitting with and, uh, congratulations, Governor. I uh I think at the end of the day, we may disagree on things, but uh as long as we're pushing forward forward in a positive manner for uh our residents,
then we should be a good board. Um thank you to Rodney. It's been uh good working with you. I know you want to catch up on your golf game. I imagine you'll be able to do that. Um, this past year I've been pushing for uh more police officers for
the security of the town since we're going to be growing in the uh soon uh with the especially the ribbon cutting coming from Maple Square. And uh we did find in the budget one more which is a great start. Um and I've been um nudging
along for more activity. Um, and I know it's a different time for police departments everywhere, but um, I was literally stopped today uh by a detail officer who told me that uh they're all very excited and uh they're
working uh a lot uh more uh there be more traffic stops and crime travel. So that to me is important uh for the security of the town. And he said that the attitude was very positive. So, made me feel good and uh I hope that that is
uh translates into a safe community so that we can walk on these wider sidewalks and uh and and all this stuff that's uh happening in all the changes that are being made. But, uh thank you very much. Okay, Gardner. I don't have much correspondence. I did get contacted
by one of the uh neighbors on Maple Street uh about the school today. But other than that, um I too want to thank Rodney, but from a different from the outside looking in. And uh thank you for helping keep the uh keep the the wheels turning. Uh it's not a difficult it's
not an easy thing. It's a it is a difficult thing sometimes, especially as an interim person. I also want to thank Kathy and her team, the whole clerk's office on running uh an election that is always above approach. Um we've never had concerns about the uh about the
elections themselves and and the processes we follow and um I uh I want to thank you for that and thank the the voters at Danverse for putting their faith in me and thank all the other candidates for again as D said putting yourself out there. It's not an easy thing and uh and I appreciate and I said
earlier the town runs on volunteers. So to those people who think they can contribute and help the community, please do so. Thank you. Thank you, Rodney. Thank you for your six plus months. Been a pleasure working with you through trying times. Uh but you did a
good job. I think you patted your resume a little bit, but that's okay. [Applause] Catherine, thank you as always for running a good election and thank you to the candidates that got out there and walked talked to get a chance to express
our views on many different topics. Uh most of all, Danas, thank you for your support for your vote. Thank you for voting. Um this is my last meeting as chair. I will not offer my services next year as chairman. So, uh, it's been
couple of years and I think I'll just take a little break for a year maybe. Thank you all. Davis, if you see a veteran, please say thank you for their service and good night Davis. Thank you.