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All right, today is Tuesday, July 14th. It's 5:01 p.m. We will bring this City [clears throat] of Defuniak Springs Beautification and Tree Board meeting to order. >> [clears throat] >> If we could all stand invocation. Dear heavenly father, thank you for this

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day. Thank you for the rain. Thank you for the opportunities that you put in front of us and in front of our city. Ask you to give us wisdom as we make decisions and just continue to bless our beautiful city. In your precious name we pray. Amen. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under [clears throat] God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> [snorts] >> And I'm sorry for the scratchy throat. I sound like I've swallowed a frog.

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>> [clears throat] >> All right, for we're at number two, the regular agenda. A, additions or deletions to the regular agenda. >> Only thing I want to mention was about new developments about tree planning on some of the new subdivisions.

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>> Okay. Yes. >> Can we do that to make it two E or F? >> F, mhm, yes. Any other additions or deletions from anyone? >> Um, >> [snorts and clears throat]

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>> yes, uh, if we could add uh, the Main Street area flower beds, there's just one discussion that needs to happen there. >> Okay. >> Okay. G? >> [laughter] >> Thank you. Thank you. >> [clears throat] [snorts]

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>> Okay. I want to entertain a motion to add F trees and new developments and G Main Street planting beds. Motion? Second. >> Seconded. >> All right. All in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye.

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>> Passes unanimously. >> [clears throat and cough] >> All right. Approval of the regular agenda. >> [snorts] >> If I could get a motion. >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye.

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>> I should have asked for a discussion. Sorry about that, folks. Um >> [clears throat] >> then we have 2C Emerald Coast Music and Trails. And they have a presentation for us today. >> And you should have a copy of the the presentation.

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>> Yes. >> Awesome. So, my name is Ryan Mims. I work for the Florida Department of Health uh in Walton County in my blue skies and my normal hours, but I'm also a board member of the Emerald Coast Music Alliance, which is a nonprofit uh profit

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501c3 that is really geared towards getting um classical music, you know, Carnegie Hall kind of style music um to those individuals and communities that um might not experience it otherwise. Uh and I can there's a website you can learn

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more about that. Uh but one of the initiatives that we really want to bring to Walton County that our founder um Dr. Vinita Morrell and her husband um with that nonprofit um kind of glean from a New York City uh experience on the High Line

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um is to bring music and that art form into our public spaces and in our parks. And I will also introduce let my counterpart here introduce herself. >> Thanks Ryan. I'm Lisa Finch and I'm new

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to the board of the Emerald Coast Music Alliance and but my family has been in this area for generations. So I'm happy to be here. And bringing the arts to the community and helping with health and wellness is just

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so important during this time. Actually all the time. So I'm excited to be here and share this cool concept with you and everyone's been super excited about it when we spoke with them about the initiative. But it's really just

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enhancing the cultural experience of visiting the area. So thank you Ryan and >> You jump in whenever as as whenever you feel like I'm forgetting so I can start it. So one of the great places in Walton County we feel like this would be

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fantastic at is the Lakeyard. There is so much happening at the Lakeyard. You know, I could buy it several times a day and people are walking being active. People go there on their mental health breaks during you know, during lunch time. They need to get away. I know a lot of our staff does at the health

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department. It's a great relaxing place and we're hoping that that uh if you're you like the idea is to maybe have you a partner in this initiative the Emerald Coast Music Trails.

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The the way that we see it happening is the ability for a QR code to be on it go to a landing page and then they select what kind of music they listen to. This music will be from classical artists. It'll be some beat some relaxing for the

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mental health breaks. It'll be a variety of music that is gleaned from our artist that we work with. We bring in a lot of musicians from New York international to our area every year.

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These are musicians that we have a partnership with that are that we're willing to provide their music and even potentially curate some of their art their art form to be applicable to the areas in which they

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that is in Walton County. So maybe the northern of our county might be a little bit more vibey and different more woodsy than the southern of our county that might be more beachy. And the way that we hope to see it is we already have something called trail tells that we have with our with our

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library systems. It's in three different parks in our county Gatlin Park in Paxton, We Care Park in Defuniak Springs and then also Padgett Park in Santa Rosa Beach. We're going to pilot it at those cuz we already have infrastructure in place. We

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already have a pedestal signage for whenever for each of the books that they read. So we can work out the technology and that's phase one really is trying to work out the technology make sure everything is being used make sure there's a way to for us to track the data all that kind of fun stuff. Phase

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two is where we hope to extend to the lake yard in some way or fashion. Phase one we're hoping to get done by the end of September. We have like a three-month kind of deadline September October. And then we our goal is to kind of come

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into at the lake yard. There's a >> Do you want me to talk? >> Yes, talk. >> [laughter] >> Ryan is is thank you Ryan and also I feel like Ryan is all about the planning and logistics and

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I'm more like here's the and how it would work. So, we created the concept is that you would scan a QR code from either working with the correct parties to update the signage and make that over

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or add an addition to the signs, but we are going to pilot in other locations just to test it out, make sure there isn't anything that we need to address before coming to a more established beautiful

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park. And so, what you're going to see if you look through the deck is just how an example, like an AI-generated example of how it works. So, someone sees the QR code, they go to a landing page where they can

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choose their music platform. So, if you're using Amazon or Apple Music, Spotify, it would basically you could click whichever platform you currently use and listen to the music and there would be a branded cover for the artist. So, you could learn about artist.

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There's an opportunity on the landing page where we could have information about the area so people could learn more about Shipwright Park, they could learn about the historical sites. Anyway, just linking, giving them more of an online connection.

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Um and then basically from there, people can enjoy the music and we hope to roll out to a few locations. We also got buy-in from everyone liking this idea, which is really amazing and cool. Um the Cultural Arts Alliance, who are

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very big in Walton County, I think one of the biggest, but they're supportive of this idea and we're you know, this is a brand new idea, so we're shaping it and you know, open to ideas and working with the town. And

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again, we're piloting it in Ryan. So, that's a little bit about the technology. If you have any questions on that, oh, if you have any questions on that, >> [snorts] >> feel free to reach out or go ahead and ask. Like happy to address that. I'm kind of a >> question

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>> Hopefully I was loud enough. >> [laughter] >> I got a question. >> Oh. Oh, sorry. >> So I apologize but I did >> I am not a a musician, so I don't I'm more like uh on in the background making the technology work. So yes.

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>> So I'm, you know, since I retired I became IT deficient from my regular job. So you're taking your phone and you're scanning the code and then you got them things stuck in your ears that you can hear, right? Not speakers out of the >> Correct. >> And you can choose your I'm into the

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real wild rap. But [laughter] anyway, so so you'll pick and it's just it'll you just walk through the park and then listen to your music and >> Yeah, so it would be paced based on based on like if you want a more

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energetic walk. So of course the founders of Emerald Coast Music Alliance are both physicians. So they're very much about the neuroplasticity and health and wellness and making sure that they have like an upbeat. So if you really want to get moving to classical

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music, which I it is possible. Uh or if you wanted a slow pace, the goal was to do start with like two different tracks. So if you want more upbeat or more relaxing and you know, meditative >> Sleepwalking could happen. >> Sleepwalking well.

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>> [laughter] >> You know, some people do that and we we try to keep them off the streets. Anyway. >> [laughter] >> Thanks. That's what I I thought that's what it was. >> So yeah, that's the goal is to have the two options. But for example, what music platform do you use now?

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>> You still on vinyl? So I am. No, No, [laughter] I do have Amazon now. So, Amazon will work? >> Yeah, Amazon Music, yes. So, I also use Amazon Music because I had so many different platforms, but you would just, as you do now, it would actually take you to Amazon Music to the playlist, and

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then you would listen through your earbuds, through your headset, and enjoy nature, and you know, it is classical music, so it would not be Yeah, I feel like it's a positive mental health

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>> And so, we try to get people to get off their regular music list, too, which I don't, and get on the >> If they choose to, yeah. I mean, there's so many benefits to classical music, and definitely with the brain and all that kind of stuff. Another point that y'all probably have questions about is

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cost. So, that is something that we're exploring right now. This is That's why we're kind of linking with Cultural Arts Alliance because we're hoping there's donors that might be interested in enriching our Defuniak Springs art scene, and I'm on the public art

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committee. They have a public arts committee. They do murals and all kinds of fun stuff. They And they're the ones that helped with the murals downtown and all at the at the fairgrounds. So, we're kind of working with that that as a frame as this being a part of public art. Music is art, so

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we're working to see donors um if for a soft launch um it's possible, and I'm hoping that we can get y'all are are fine with it. It'll be great to have like a Christmas like kind of holiday music set, and that I

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think that's a puts potentially a great time to launch it. We wouldn't have probably the signage by then, but making banners and rack cards is a way to promote it, but at at the library, at the tourist little train depot,

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and all of those kind of places, and and a banner um, help promote it. And, um, that's kind of a soft launch low cost, um, to get it going. Uh, we did take a look at the current, uh, walking through history history walk kind of thing around it. Those signs look a little bit

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dated. Um, our goal is to maybe, um, incorporate that into, um, this as well. So, maybe getting some, uh, so the funding to help support replacing those, um, and making sure the new county, um, logo or city logo is on them

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and um, that would be ideal. So, that's something that we did look at, um, and we went and take took pictures and, um, kind of and that that is the direction we would like to go in is to incorporate it into the already exist existing signage. I do not want to put more signage at the lake yard. I

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appreciate the no smoking signage that was placed, uh, from the health department stance. Uh, but, uh, I don't want to make a make it a sign graveyard. >> [laughter] >> Uh, there's a lot of signs. We would like to use the existing signs, um, that are there. So, that's what I that we kind of envision.

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Um, any other questions? >> I saw the signs today myself. They looked like they needed cleaned up or, you know, a >> There's some mold or mildew on them, um, and yeah, uh, a couple of them. And some scraping along the sides and whatnot. So, maybe that's something that we can help with,

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um, if we can get a a good, you know, funder for it. >> I I do have a question. Touch back on you There you said that there was also the opportunity to have like history or to tell about the area. Tell a little bit more about that. >> Right. So, with the landing page where

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you can listen to obviously you can pick your platform. As part of the concept, we could include like the local businesses, things to do, like really around the community and history. So, people could even if they weren't at the

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park visit the page and learn more about DeFuniak Springs, Chautauqua Park, the lake, um, how it's really iconic. And so I I think it's we're open right now to what could be included, but that's one platform or it could link over to the

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city site. So, anyway, there's a lot of possibility there, but as part of that framework, it's really around education. So, yes, music is definitely part of it, but learning about the [clears throat] arts, learning about culture, I've I've found even with the historical sites

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like can't access all of them, it's a way they could understand and glean more about the history of the area. So, I think there's a lot of opportunity through We would have specific landing pages for each site, so that there makes

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sense, right? >> At Christmas time, would it be Christmas classical? Is that the idea? >> fantastic goal. So, I think that would be something holiday type music that would be We can let the artists that we're trying to curate this music for let them know that. >> Yeah.

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>> And I think that would be that that that would be That's my ideal because I'm like the Christmas stuff at the late yard is like a big deal. >> Yeah. >> So, why not help enhance that as another, you know, if they're visiting during the daytime, as a way to listen to music while they're walking the late yard.

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>> Even whenever they like pay to go in, you could have your QR code right there. >> Yeah. Let them just listen to the music as they're driving the late yard and seeing the lights. I think it's a great idea. That would be good. That would be good. That would be good. That would be good. >> We think it's a good opportunity for to get visibility and get repeat visits to

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the area. So, obviously, we're launching with the two tracks, potentially the holiday music, which is a great idea, and then we would have rolling releases, so it would stay updated. Obviously, because we want people to come back and hear something new and get

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exposure to new cultures. >> Very cool. I like the idea of having some history in there, and maybe um you know, even including, you know, a walking tour. Where if you go to this next station,

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we'll tell you about everything along the way. Um I went to um a a I went to the catacombs in Paris, and that I know this is a little higher tech than what we're talking, but the headset that they gave you new where you were.

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So, it was perfectly timed to tell you about whatever it was you were looking at. So, maybe not quite that high-tech, but something something >> [laughter] >> along those lines >> even do like an interactive map on the website where you can click and see what, you know,

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maybe not where you are, but uh at least what's what's in the Yeah, like you click on the little marker and it tells you a little bit about where you are, and you know, >> like this is the Murray House. This is the Yeah. All of that. >> Eventually

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it'd be great to have or an art installation or something like that, but obviously >> Interactive is easy to do and low cost. >> So, that definitely That sounds like an amazing experience, and I I actually love that concept, and

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just with the headphones, who knows? Like that's That Well, we're in phase three, that could be phase four. >> [laughter] >> We We booked out phase three. So, like and next up, uh we're meeting with Cultural Arts Alliance and in the near future to see exactly what they're willing to to chip in.

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Um and uh we've also discussed um depending on what we're going to do, discuss TDC and see if they're interested in helping with anything. Um and then we're going to pilot the the three sites, and then after we get something kind of developed and um and kind of going on, we can come back

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and uh discuss it with y'all uh a little bit a little bit from now, and then uh run it by the city council probably, uh, to make sure that if if the board approves us to the for y'all to put it on the agenda, um, for us to discuss it. So,

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sounds good. >> I love the idea of adding music to your experience. Um, and this is this is not meant as a criticism, but if you guys went to the fireworks, it's the best fireworks we've had, but I was playing my own patriotic music

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on my phone to enhance that experience. >> Yeah. >> So, I feel like that would be a really good >> Yeah. There's a lot of events at the Lakeyard already. Lakefest, uh, >> live performance for fireworks show.

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Yeah, I mean, just >> Yeah. >> thinking out loud, but yeah, I think that having it music just I don't know about you guys, but it changes a mood if you're you know, it helps. It It can either calm you or get you like if you're low energy, get you amped up. So,

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we're hoping that it helps just overall expose everyone to new music, including us, and just the whole experience I think is successful in other venues, right? And historical sites. I think it's cool that

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we're Sorry, we're innovating. >> [laughter] >> And I will remember to talk into the microphone, but yeah. >> And just while we're brainstorming, >> Yeah. >> um, since your founders are physicians, is that right? >> Correct.

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>> Um, you know, healing frequencies, music that are that's on certain frequencies that are healing, um, that could be something cool to explore, too. >> Absolutely. >> Oh, yes. >> Yeah, we'll definitely I I um, Dr. Vinita Marrow was our medical director for a couple years at the

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health department, so she knows Walton County really well, uh, and uh, yeah, and I I I think this is an awesome idea, a good way to collaborate and to bring a a new interactive experience that's, you know, artsy and culture-related and history-related potentially. Um so we're

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excited to get get it going. So as soon as we have something else uh kind of started, um another landing the landing pages for the um library um trail trails, um we can bring it back to present and we'll ask Sumi to be on the agenda. >> Sounds great. Thank

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>> I have a question. So when y'all when they scan the QR code, will it give you data of how many people actually do the QR code? >> Yes. >> So that is a great question and the freebie option is Google Analytics,

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obviously, tracking and measuring some of the business intelligence around it. If we wanted to do a paid tool, it's a little more, but it would be next level around the clicks. And like we could get more demographic data. I mean, if you guys want more, obviously, we could look

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at that and include it in the funding. Like if there are specific things you wanted to track, we could definitely do clicks, but I mean, there's a lot of demographic data that could be helpful um and just identifying what you guys needed. We could figure out what the

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best tool is. >> I wonder if the TDC would be more supportive with the higher level. >> See, that's what I was wondering because we use the QR code for Christmas Reflections. And they scan it as they go around. That way we can kind of keep track of and it's just a survey for them

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to give us feedback. And then we can kind of track off of that how many people actually, you know, not everybody's going to do it, but and then that way we can kind of track, you know, how many people are doing it. >> That's what's nice about this is that we'll know everybody that does it because they have to scan the QR code to go to a landing page and we >> And we'll know what platform and how

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many and if, you know, what type of device, you know, that type of information. Obviously, if, you know, we're all on Amazon and Amazon already has some data around us, I think that's where you get into like a higher tier of >> Mhm.

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>> uh the analytics that's useful. But, we can certainly capture and a survey or something like that, like we can talk about that flow like after they listen to music. They could learn about the artist, too, right? Which is super important. Uh you know, maybe that's something we

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include as like part of that, "Hey, thanks so much for visiting." Or if they want to be want more, right? Then we can send them a survey link. >> Okay. >> Again, I feel like um this is where the trail tails So, there's existing signage and we're

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swapping that out and we'll definitely glean like we'll that'll be our pilot for like what can we learn? Um you know, I think the surveys are great. Are the Is that effective for what you guys are doing with the surveys? >> Yeah, so part of the TDC money that we

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get for Christmas Reflections for advertisements and stuff, that's one of the requirements. So, that they can get information feedback to see where people are from, that kind of stuff to see where if they're traveling, that kind of stuff. >> Yeah, that's that's uh interesting data,

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for sure, and uh could help shape >> Mhm. >> other activities, right? Um >> Mhm. Yeah. >> Very cool. >> Anything Do we need to take any action on this? >> For you guys to approve it, unless they

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want to come back, then y'all would approve it and then they can bring it to city council on the next time that they bring the information for if if you guys want to go ahead and make a motion to approve to go to the city council level, then once you guys are prepared, then they would just go straight to city

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council and not come back to this board. >> I I think we can take action and let the council >> Mhm. >> I motion to approve. >> Okay. >> Second. >> And either you're a this to make the motion come Are you making a motion to take to the

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city council this presentation? >> For approval. >> For approval. Yes. >> Yes. >> That's That's what I meant. >> Thank you, sir. >> You read my [laughter] mind. >> Excuse me, [clears throat] is there any further discussion? Any Okay. >> I will say by that time we'll try to

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have a more firmed up funding potentials. So, we'll make sure that's cuz that's going to be their question. >> I'm I'm 100% aware. >> And making sure there's no more additional signage. So, we'll make sure that's the two. >> And you said y'all are piloting it at We Care Park? >> Yes, we are.

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>> And y'all have already got that out there now? >> We already have the trail tails signage up and we work with the library quarterly to change out that book. We will just put it on that page or we'll probably put a music book related kids book there so that it makes sense. >> Okay.

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>> Um and then yeah, we'll just put print off with a QR code whenever we get it ready. >> And from a technology perspective, we would be use using our site but with a custom unique URL landing page. So, the

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Emerald Coast Music Trails we thought would be like the brand so that it can be general and so from a technology perspective, it's it's lower cost because we're we're already paying for that. >> Cool. >> All right, good.

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>> Okay, any other discussion before we take a vote? Okay, all in favor? >> I. >> I. >> Did I hear an I from you guys? [clears throat] >> Okay, thanks. >> [laughter] >> It's unanimous. >> Thank you guys very much for coming. >> Yep, thank you.

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>> Okay, back to our regular agenda. Item 2D is the tree donation policy draft. >> [clears throat] >> So, we want to go through this, review it. If it looks good, we can move forward with it. If there's any adjustments,

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this would be the time. >> I just had a question on the number four, dedication marker. It says at the donor's request and expense a granite marker may be installed. Will we still have oversight? I mean, it's like we don't want

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markers everywhere. >> I agree. >> You know. >> Mhm. >> So, I don't know. It says anybody that they could be installed anybody at the donor's request. So, what do y'all think? >> Donor's request and board approval.

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>> Yeah, I think that needs to be put in there. You know. Cuz I might do it and they say, "No, we don't want his name out there." You know, so. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? >> Do we want I hear what you're saying, but I think

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if we're creating an extra layer for them to have to come to the board for approval, is that going to deter people? I'm playing devil's advocate. >> So, are you looking at the application form? I just want to be sure.

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>> Number four, I was number four, dedication. >> and under the policy >> Okay. >> I was just trying to make sure that that this form matches the policy. >> Policy. >> Chris Strong was the one that had drafted this out and he's not here

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today. Are you you going to explain this to me? >> I mean, I can. The because realistically when somebody donates, they come to us anyway. >> Mhm. >> So, if they want to have a marker,

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they're going to have to come to us to donate to request the marker anyway. And at that point in time, that's when it would be either accepted or denied. >> But is that to staff or to the board? >> That would be to the board.

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>> Are we approving every tree? >> Uh yeah, that's a good question. >> Cuz that doesn't feel >> Well, we have to approve if it's it's native, it's not invasive. We have to approve the tree. We have a list. >> Yeah, there's a list of approved trees and disapproved trees.

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>> So it'd have to be off that list, right? >> Which I noticed includes laurel oak. He was supposed to have taken that off. >> Yeah, it's still on. >> Sorry. >> Oh no, of course it is. I just That's >> Cuz I said something about that, too.

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>> Yeah. >> It's on the second page there. >> Yeah, that needs to go. >> I mean, I hope that's a problem. Maybe we get so many that What are we going to do with all these plaques? That would be, you know, do we get that many donations? But I just thought maybe

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that's something. You know, most time we would say yes, you know, but I don't know. >> But also the way it's worded though, it's a request. Request doesn't mean that necessarily is going to happen. And it says may be installed, which means

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that still does leave the opportunity to say no. >> All right. That's all I wanted to know. >> Because I think we're I know we're working on a um memorial donation policy, too, to where for like

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memorial plaques and stuff like that, which would kind of fall in the same >> [cough and clears throat] >> realm as these that they have to a whole process that they have to go through to be able to get those even put out, so >> Okay. >> All right. >> I think all the other trees are good.

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>> As far as I can tell. >> I don't see it. >> How about on >> I don't see saucer magnolia on there. >> You don't see live >> Section 13, just before the very last sentence,

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before donor acknowledgement, what if we put marker orders, if approved, shall not be placed until payment is received. That might be extra. >> sorry. Madam Chair, can you repeat that? >> If we said marker orders, comment, if

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approved, comma, shall not be placed until payment is received. I don't know if it might bring them. Might be redundant, but it might bring clarity. What are you you guys' thoughts on that? >> I think Why not?

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>> I don't think it's going to be too big an issue. >> No, it's probably a >> Probably not. >> But [clears throat] add that and just cover all bases. >> Yeah. >> Did our tree expert see any others that should be added? Um

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I'm sorry. >> What do you think about saucer magnolia? >> It's a smaller magnolia, right? It's not as big as a grandiflora. >> Right. >> I think we need to leave that on there. >> I don't see it on there. >> Oh, it's not on there? >> No. >> We can always add that list, right? With

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board approval. >> Yeah. >> Cuz new things might arise, new species of >> Yeah, we can always amend it, but if there's something you're thinking should be added. >> obvious. Saucer magnolia, spring spring tree on there? >> Spring tree is on there, yeah. Um

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you might move live oak to the canopy trees cuz that >> What was that, sir? >> Uh move live oak to the canopy trees cuz that's not an understory. Mhm. Um maybe add saucer magnolia. It's magnolias on there.

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>> [laughter] >> Um >> That's it. >> I'm just trying to think of >> That would go under >> Um saucer magnolia that would probably be >> It's supposed to stay like >> understory >> 25, yeah. It's It wouldn't be a canopy. >> it should be fine.

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>> [snorts] >> Um What do you think about dogwoods? >> There's supposed to be a new disease resistant dogwood that we need to check into. We used to have a bunch of dogwoods around the lake yard and we lost almost all of them a few years ago and this >> Everywhere.

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>> They don't like open sun and they just So, I was reading about it. It's supposed to We had some dogwood diseases too that have come out that They're trying to develop a disease resistant. So, I think we would I don't know how you put in a disease resistant dogwood.

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>> I don't know. >> Cuz they got a couple different species on there, don't they for dogwood? >> Yeah, that's um pagoda [clears throat] and flowering >> I'm not familiar You familiar with the >> I'm not familiar with pagoda. >> Yeah, I would maybe take that off for now, that one. Just have the dogwood.

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>> Maybe just flowering dogwood. >> Yeah, just flowering dogwood instead of then take off uh >> the pagoda dogwood. >> Pagoda, yeah. I don't know how well that here. >> If I've seen any survive >> removing pagoda. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. >> If I've seen any dogwood survive really well, I might think otherwise, but >> Right. >> I don't want people to plant something that they're going to be disappointed in. >> [snorts] >> Um I could probably think of a bunch of

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others, but uh >> Is holly is there holly tree on there you like day hone or American holly? >> I think it was heavy because of those. >> Yeah, it is on there. Both of both of those are on there, that's good. >> Okay. >> American and day hone, okay.

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So, I mean it's pretty good list. >> Mhm. >> Okay, so the changes that we have are section 13 where we've added the language marker orders if approved shall not be placed until payment is

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received. We are moving live oak to the canopy trees >> All right. >> section. We're eliminating laurel oak all together from the approved list.

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And we are eliminating pagoda dogwood from the approved list. >> And we're adding the saucer magnolia. >> I missed that. >> Yeah. >> We're adding the saucer magnolia to the category. >> To which category? >> Understory. >> Understory.

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>> Those are the ones that bloom in the spring before they leaf out and it just is so pretty. There's a few around the lake yard already, but uh And I am finding you the scientific name right now. >> I already did. >> Oh, well.

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That's why we've got you. >> [laughter] >> Okay, with those changes, do I have a motion? >> Yes, could we get a motion to approve with these changes to take the city council with the changes that have been recommended? >> Yes.

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>> Can we go ahead and get that up? >> That motion [clears throat] is on the table. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Okay, any further discussion? Okay, all in favor? >> Aye. >> Passes unanimously.

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Thank you. >> [clears throat] >> Okay, we're up to two e. Andrew, you have a public works update for e1 for up lighting. >> So, we have gotten the quote back from S4. Um,

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did you get that in the email yet? So, hopefully here in the next day or so this week we'll have them ordered and they'll be here in a couple days. So. >> Yeah, and then then the fun begins. >> How many did we get up end up getting? >> what, 20? >> I'm going to pull up your quote. That

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>> I think it's I'm just this is off the top of my head. I think it was 20. >> 20 lights. >> Lights. >> Okay, and that was to do how many trees? >> We'll have to go back and look at our cuz some of them was taking less than the other ones, but I think it was what? >> of 22.

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>> Yeah, but when we walked around 22 lights, but when we walked around there was what? Eight trees, six trees? >> I want to say that was what I couldn't remember. It was six or eight. >> Yeah, something like that. >> eight trees and we counted up to possibly 22 lights.

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>> Yeah. >> Depending upon >> Yeah, that's what it was. >> how much it needed. Okay. And when are you expecting installation? >> That is the question. >> [laughter] >> Yes, it is. >> Yeah, put it putting them in is not going to be too terribly bad.

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Um I kind of wanted to have them up before 4th of July, but it just didn't >> Right. >> work out that way. Um I'm going to say a couple weeks to get everything up and going. >> So, a couple weeks to get it, couple weeks to install, troubleshoot, all that.

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Okay. >> [clears throat] >> And then I'll once I get it up, um we may send out an email. I don't know if y'all want to do a workshop or whatever to kind of get I know y'all have kind of said, you know, like a warm white or a yellow or whatever, but we can change it with the seasons or

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whatever. So, if there's something that, you know, in y'all's brainstorming to think about between now and then if different colors or whatever, we can do trees, then you know, we can go out there and get them programmed or >> What if we bring back a list of holidays and colors >> Mhm.

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>> for the next [clears throat] meeting. Would that work? >> Mhm. >> Okay. Hold on. His assistant's email to me today and so, it's you're right, it's 20 lights. That was >> [clears throat] >> at roughly 3,500. >> Mhm.

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>> Okay. I think if we were to say this is, you know, how far 3,500 went, you want to contribute some more or we can have more lit up. >> Mhm. >> Mhm.

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Tax deductible, all that good stuff. And I know I wasn't there either, but it might be instead of trying to spread it and make them go further, really make them look >> Yeah, I'm not going to I'm not going to short change them. >> Good. >> So, if we if we only get six trees

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instead of eight, >> Yeah. >> we're going to make sure that they're lit up by the >> Awesome. Yeah. They'll like the 4th of July like you wanted. >> That's right. >> [laughter] >> That's great. That is very exciting. Thank you, Andrew, for seeing this through.

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Any other thoughts, questions on the uplighting? All right, let's move on to EF. Not F. F. Excuse me, not EF. F. Trees and new developments. Like

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>> I had a quite a long conversation with Councilman Glenn yesterday before the I guess there was a council meeting last night. >> Mhm. >> And he [clears throat] was concerned about the development on Walton Road about planning live oaks, oak trees

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between the street and the sidewalk. There's only like 10 ft. >> Mhm. >> And I did some research on it and I gave him a list of smaller trees. Some of them were >> to him. I talked to him as well. >> And fringe trees and stuff. And >> [clears throat] >> so I don't know what he said every else is four live oaks. So I don't know what

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happened at the meeting if they voted on that. He was against planning oaks in the medium zone in the future. >> about where I stopped watching. >> So >> [laughter] >> So at the last meeting in that particular um development, they wanted the wordage to be changed in that

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um agreement um for that plat on Walton >> Okay. >> to have live oaks removed from that because >> Sidewalks and you know >> Yes. >> I'll be gone by the time >> um in that particular um I'll have to look back that first

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reading for uh the community development. They asked for that wording to be changed. So >> Cuz it was just >> Yeah. >> I was telling there's only like 5 ft between >> Yeah, 5 or 10 ft. >> Not enough room for the live oaks. I love live oaks. But they're talking about they'll plant live oaks down Walton Road.

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>> Mhm. >> Mhm. >> So you know, we got a room. That'll be nice. But not in the Something like 90 homes is it the first? Where are these people coming from? But the first one's 90 homes in that one area. >> Yeah, I looked But anyway, that's all I had. I just

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wanted to bring that up since I didn't know what happened. >> Mhm. >> Now future subdivisions, maybe they'll let you put wider subdivisions really if >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Um

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we are up to letter G. Main Street planting beds. Summer? >> Yes. >> Uh the beds are thriving. They look amazing. Um but back in March, I did bring the crew up from the farm and we cut everything between 12 and 18 in.

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Which is unbelievable if you look at where Iron 'N' Wine is now. I mean everything. We cut even the grasses, everything. The The Remind me the ones with the purple tops. Um chaste trees. No. No. But yes, vitex. So those right now, if

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we would cut them back again at around 18 in, they will bloom again this fall. So I This is my busy time at the farm and I do not have the manpower to do it. I love doing that and I can do it again in the spring. But if everything needs a a good trimming again

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for it to thrive for fall time. >> So cut them back to 18 in. Is >> Yeah, I mean maybe not quite that short as we did in spring just cuz we don't have as much grow time. What would you recommend? Like 24 in? But they're they're like huge in some areas right now. They're giant.

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And they will bloom again. So I don't know if if that's something that you could look into. >> Is that the only plant the vitex the only one that needs it again? >> I think so. Yeah. want a really big one. Yeah. Cuz those will turn into trees if they don't ever if they're not cut twice or three times a year. I mean, literally

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they're like >> And then we're getting all this rain this year for a change. It's >> No kidding. So, that's it. Okay. All right, citizen comments. >> We want live oaks not dead. >> [laughter] >> I love dogwood.

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>> We're going to work on it. If we can find one that'll work. >> It's not that they're >> The problem with it is they just die. >> We want them to live, right? >> Yeah. I don't want people to >> Can you come to the mic? >> Oh, sure. >> Thank [laughter] you. >> I love the concept of the trees and being able to donate them. I think that

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is just really cool. And definitely that I'm interested in that. And I'm like how I wouldn't I'd have to research which tree or I mean, there were a lot to choose from, which I love. I'm wondering where how do you know where to put them?

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>> So, it depends on, you know, the tree and where they would thrive the best. I mean, we try to put put them down at the lake yard and stuff if it's like a memorial tree or whatever cuz there's a lot more people down there, but it really depends on I mean, we have a bunch of parks and that kind of stuff

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that we put them at. >> It's going to be gorgeous. Anyway, I love the idea. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay, any other citizen comments? >> Did you bring your checkbook? We'll take a donation. >> [laughter] >> All right. With that, we will adjourn.

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