I believe uh let me see. I have to look it up real quick. I have to look it up real quick. Resolution. The numbers. I've got the resolutions. I brought that to you last week. I just have to I just have to put the number.
We are ready, mayor. Yeah. Here we go. All right. We're going to call this uh second public hearing agenda for our 2026 budget. And uh so if we will stand for the invocation and we'll follow the
pledge of allegiance. Get up. Hallelujah. Father, we thank you Lord for your love towards us. We thank you God for helping us do the best we could at this at this juncture. And we ask you Lord just to help us to proceed uh to do
the city at its best bidding. So father we ask this all in Jesus name. Amen. Amen. Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. All right. We'll just pass right over to Thank you, mayor. This is the city of the Phoenix Springs second and final public budget hearing. I have two announcements. The first is to announce
the millage of 550 mills. This is less than the roll back rate of 5.5287 mills by 0.52%. I will now announce the budget in the amount of 61,261,972.
I need a motion to adopt the millillage of 55000. So moved. Second. All right. Motion second. Any questions, discussion? Anyone? All in favor? We're We're back back. We'll go to John. I
I carried. Thank you very much. Thank you, mayor. That is resolution 202513 to be executed by you. Next, I need a motion to adopt the budget in the amount of 61,261,972. So moved. Second.
Second, questions, comments. Uh just for the same reasons um as our first public hearing and philosoph philosophical differences. I'm just the way I'm going to vote uh is going to be in the negative because reserves are too low. We're selling properties below fair
market value, helping others before ourselves, and not reducing the CRA. Any other comments? Yes, sir. I was disappointed that uh we couldn't come to a a compromise on the 95% 5%
that the CR is getting for their the increased ad balorum. Um there was a lot of a lot of things I didn't understand. At one meeting, we had city council members saying,
you know, we got plenty of money. We got $24 million, you know, in the bank, and all everything's fine. The city's solvent. There's no problems. Everything's okay. And then the next thing I know, we're trying to get rid of
our fire department. We're trying to cut positions. We had a few layoffs. Had a hiring freeze. We couldn't even give our our employees a pay raise this year. So
my my feelings on this is that the city the city the citizens of our city came out on the short end of the stick. And um I also think that the city employees came out on the short end of
the stick. We couldn't even give them a stinking 1% pay raise. So anyway, I'm inclined to believe the same along the same lines as Amy. So I'm sure this is going to pass, but I did want to get that out and get that off my chest and tell you how I felt. Thank
you. Anyone else? Mr. Mayor, go ahead. I'm sure if our citizens go back and watch all the previous meetings, go through all the pre prior discussions that they'll see a lot of that is not true and false. Um, give me I'm not going to go through some big spill on this.
Well, then let's just stop. Hold on. Hold on. He didn't interrupt you. Don't interrupt him. Go ahead. Because several of those comments can be refuted by previous meetings. I'm not going to sit here and engage in commentary for hours because we're at
the last minute, the last second of the last hour. All this has already been debated. Thank you. That's good enough. Well, it's not good enough because at the end of every meeting, you have something negative to say about this
council and you do it in such a strategic way to leave a parting shot with the public to think about at the end of a meeting. Now, if if you bring things forward to address some of the problems instead of
just being critical of the problems that we've faced and tried to work out, it I would have a different a different look on your comments. But, um, you know, you just cannot continue
to try to demonize us and put yourself on a pedestal to the employees. We all care about the employees. We did the best we could do for the employees and to to to throw that out there at this
point in the in the game is just unfair to everybody serving up here, Dan. And I I just, you know, I've talked about being positive and and optimistic. We we got to we've got to look for solutions. We can't just keep pointing fingers here
and and we've got to we got to move we we've got to move the boat together, you know? We've got to work together and I think we all want to work together. But but continuing to to make
the other three look look bad is is counterproductive to the the direction that we need to be going at this point. And that's that's just my view. And and I just I keep hoping we'll turn the corner, we'll go, but these end of the meeting shots at at us, I mean, I'm I'm
kind of tired of I'm tired of hearing it. uh is unfair. It's unfair to us. We're doing the best we can. Mr. Mayor, yes. Go ahead. So, like I said last meeting, we had over 10 hours of debate and discussion
on this very topic. You had 10 hours to debate and discuss this and raise your concerns, bring solutions. We had five dedicated meetings. We had nine meetings in between those five dedicated meetings which you could have brought forward
solutions and answers. Nothing happened. And and I agree with the other council members that it's a concerted gaslighting effort by certain council members to influence the public and it's got to stop because it's untrue. It's
not right and it's unfair. We come up here. No, no, no, no, no. I'm going to finish my speech. I listen to your speech. You can listen to mine. It's unfair for you to take pop shots at us along with Councilman Hein
when we're up here every day at these meetings. You weren't at the last meeting. It's not right. It it I go back to September 2020. I brought forward a resolution
addressing our budget process. Have you or Councilwoman Heavlin brought forward any sort of resolution addressing the bud budget process? I have. I have worked tirelessly for this city to improve it. I have voted consistently
over the last six years to improve the pay of our of our employees. Our employees make good money. So, it's not right for y'all to come in and imply that there's financial mismanagement and that we're not taking
care of employees and we're not taking care of this and we're we're you continue to reit relitigate the 95%. And it's not right that you're allowed to constantly bring that up when you were voted down on that. You had your chance to convince everybody at the
meeting that your way was better and you didn't. You lost that vote, but yet you bring it up time after time after time. Finished. No, I'm not. I'm going to keep going the longer you keep poking me like this.
Well, I got some more for you. Come with solutions. I did. When? Name it. Amy and I both begged practically practically begged. Mr. Mayor, I call the question to give some
M. Mayor, I call the question. You now have to have a second to call the question. Then we have All right. So now we have to vote to call the question. No debate. Okay. So there's now we have Mayor, we got to go to a vote. It has to We're going to go to vote. Okay.
By greater than I just want to clarify on the call quick. has Yeah, it has to it has to pass greater than a bare majority to close debate. Okay. All right. Is that what you're wanting?
Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So, we uh we vote on calling the question and then we will vote on the primary motion. Okay. All right. So, I need on the call the question. Uh you're just saying
first of all to authorize it, right? No, no, no, no. So he's called the question. He's got a second. Now there now needs to be greater than twothirds of the council to close debate. Okay. All right. So we're going to that's what the vote is going to I closes debate and nay is not to close
debate. Right. All right. So those in favor of closing debate say I. I. I. I. And those that I. Not in favor I. Okay. So 41. So we'll close the meeting
66%. Now we immediately move to the motion on the adoption of the budget which if passed will be resolution 2025-14. All right. So we already have a motion second. Is that correct? Yes sir. All right. So we'll go to the vote. All
in favor say I. I. Nay. I nay. I carry. Thank you very much. None. Anybody motion to adjurnn? Any public comment? Well, we can't take public comment outside of those two motions in the budget area. All right. Second, mayor,
I'd like to close with a comment and it's not negative. How about it? We had differences of opinion. Strong differences of opinion. [Music] Okay. Okay. When I walk out this door,
we're on a new sheet of music. Okay. We bought We've got our solution, our resolution, or whatever. When I come back in here next time and face y'all, we're starting all over.
All right, everybody. Good. Yep. Calls me a journ. Y'all have a good