City Council meeting to order Monday, September 22nd, 2025. We're going to ask Councilman Scor if you'd lead us in the invocation. Dear Lord, we thank you for this day and we thank you for all your many blessings, Father. Uh we thank you for our city. We thank you for allowing us
to serve the people, God, and to serve you, Father. We pray that as we're here tonight, Lord, that we can remember to treat one another as we would want to be treated ourselves, Lord, and to serve you, God, with honor and dignity. Jesus name we pray. Amen. Amen.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. I'm I'm not going to ask you to stand,
but I'm just going to ask you to just take a just a few moments here as a moment of silence for Charlie Kirk and his family and organization. And uh that's enough said. So, let's just take a moment. Thank you. Thank you. All right. We will
begin with the consent agenda. We'd entertain a motion to approve as written or if you want something pulled off, please let us know at this time. Motion to approve. All right, we have a motion, a second. Any questions or comments? And we're going to Amy. All in favor say I. I.
I. I. I. I. Eyes carry. Thank you very much. Uh on the regular agenda, we did we have any changes? Uh I do not, mayor. Okay. Motion to approve. Second. All right. We have a motion to approve and a second. Uh any questions?
Question. Uh on the item C 3C1, um I had a question uh earlier today about the contract and the attorney fees uh paid by the seller and um Cody does not have an answer to that and Clay's
going to be a little bit late. Is this item that we could move down? You want it? If we need to. Yeah. Yeah. Uh we need to get the agenda voted on the regular agenda and uh but yeah it can be delayed. We
can move that. That's not a problem. Is he going to be here to answer it? Yes. So he called me. He is at the county second budget hearing. He expects to be here relatively soon. So as soon as that's over, he'll be here. Just go ahead and move it where you want. Well, I think you made the motion to approve.
Well, I can amend it to to move it to um we would just move it under seven. We can make that 7 A1. Yeah. So, I'm in my motion. I second. Okay. All right. Any other changes?
All in favor say I. I. I. I. I. I. Carrie. Thank you very much. Uh, all right. So, we'll go directly to Tim Parsons on 5A1. Hey, good evening. How are y'all?
Good evening. Doing pretty good. Things are certainly picking up in Tallahassee. Today, the House held uh meetings. Uh the Select Committee on Property Tax Reform held a a pretty long meeting today and they're scheduled to meet again tomorrow. Uh
discuss, you know, what elimination of property taxes might look like. Uh tomorrow they are actually going to take up um what the impact to municipalities uh would look like. So, we'll be providing y'all with a report and a summary of of what those conversations are, you know, that are taking place
there. Um, again, committee weeks begin October the 6th. There's about six weeks of committee meetings before the start of the legislative session on January the 13th. So, so we're we're just getting ready and making preparations. Uh, certainly u want to be able to
advocate for the city's priorities uh going into this next session. So that's why we've got an item on your agenda tonight to discuss your 2026 legislative priorities. Uh what we'd like to do is I think there was I know y'all had a chance to look at your CIP and um and
take a you know take a look at that and what projects are on there. Also included in the packet this evening I think it's the last version of the major funding list uh from from last year. That's just that's something that we use sort of as a tool uh whenever we're
looking at the city's priorities kind of to further prioritize upon uh your CIP. So that may be something that you want to uh take a look at. Also give you the opportunity if there's things that you want to see omitted from that or added moving forward. Um there'll certainly be
a be a time for that. But, uh, really just wanted to help facilitate a a discussion on on what the city's priorities are or remain to be. Um, as we get ready for the 2026 legislative session, I I did want to make a note
that on October 22nd is the Walton County legislative delegation meeting. Uh, we like to have that October 22nd. It's a Wednesday evening. Where is it? It is. It's at the um Walton County
Court South Annex. Oh, sorry. I think it's 5:30 is when that begins. Excuse me. I think we'd like to go ahead and like I said, get get your priorities in place.
Uh we'd like to have the mayor in position to present those uh to the me to the delegation at that time. Um, so like I said, wanted to see where the where the council was. What what priorities I I know the effluent line has been the priority for for a number
of years. Y'all were successful last year uh in receiving $1 million in funding for that. Um, just to give you a quick update on the federal appropriations. As you may have seen in the news, Congress is uh quickly approaching potential shutdown. So
they're the only thing they're contemplating right now is is a continuing resolution. Don't believe that it contains funding um for the effluent project. What we are hopeful for is that they'll get back on schedule and um you know Congressman Dunn has proposed just a handful of projects that
he wants to see funded this year and your eth limit line is one of those. Nice. Okay. You want to hear comments back from the council? All right, we're open. So, I I would agree with uh leaving our
effluent line as the number one priority. Um we just had another issue uh this week or this weekend with it. So, that that is mine. Just looking at the um the attachment here. There's a lot of this that probably needs to be um
kind of cleaned up u because there's uh stuff in here that's even noted as being completed or um like for example um our pavement condition index. I know that Kobe and staff are working on on that. So,
um, a lot of that probably needs to be reworked and pulled off of the, uh, that last page of the document there, that major major funding request. Jesse, if y'all could scroll all the way down,
page you on top. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Keep going. Keep going. It's going to be the last page. Oh, go back up. So, like the downtown farmers market structure, that's that's the ship
has sailed on that. The countyy's moved the the funding and is doing something different with that. So, that needs to come off. Um, I don't mind leaving the extending Bruce to 19th Street, but I think that we we ran into a lot of headwinds on that one, mayor, if I remember correctly. What was this now?
The number S there at the bottom of the page, extending Bruce Avenue to 19th Street. Didn't we run into some Didn't we find out some stuff on that? Now, there is I don't know what impact it'll have on it, but they looks like they're fixing to do a considerable
development right right in the middle of that. Um, uh, but they're not banking on it. Yeah. So, you know, uh, if you scroll back up, Jesse, there you go. Thank you. Um, I
know we're working on the the AC water man, which is in there. So, that's that's in progress. So there wastewater treatment plant and then the potential joint plant. I think that those probably for now need to come off unless somebody can Kobe, do you have an opinion on
those? I know that those were kind of hopes and prayers in years past and I don't know that we're in a position to to look at either of those given given the fact that we're below 50% capacity on our current plant. Mhm. Um, so I think that there's a lot of
this that probably needs to be cleaned up and maybe represented at the next meeting. I guess my question would be, Mr. Mayor, to Tim, is um, what's what's the timeline on this? Are you needing something tonight? Do we need to kind of roll up our sleeves and work through
this tonight or is this something that we can provide some hot takes here, let staff kind of clean it up, and then maybe present it at the next meeting? I would say we got time. I think the latter I think as long as those priorities have sort of been hashed out by the delegation meeting on
the 22nd. So that would give y'all um one more meeting before then. Yeah, that's just my two cents. I'll I'll let someone else talk for I'll take advantage of all the time we got. I tend to agree about the effluent line remaining at top of the list with AC
water main behind that. And then like you said, let Kobe go back and clean clean a lot of this up and bring it back. But to let Mr. Parsons know, those are the two top priorities as far as I'm concerned. You want just too we I had a question on that second one,
Kobe. The AC water main. Do y'all have funding in place for that? I mean, is it something that um if the legislature were to appropriate some funds, it wouldn't mess up what you're already doing? We currently have a SRF for 766,000 which is a 50/50. So that's for design
and then we have currently no dollars toward construction. Uh that figure is is I believe the figure is old. I think 8.8 is on the on the CIP. So there's no construction dollars currently toward AC water man replacement. Okay.
Uh can we remove Mary which is the old health department fire station? And I think we all talked about that and said we thought it would be best uh to remove that. Is everybody in agreement that when they do update this for the next meeting
that we can eliminate that off of this? Should we replace that with something related to our fire department and whether it's renovations, whether it's, you know, I don't think on this list. I think we
should do it outside of the Yeah, of course we don't want to get in conflict with the CRA and what they're going to try and do. Yeah, that's a good point. What What was that, Mayor? CRA, if it's on here, the CRA is out. Correct.
Yeah. Um, at what point would we be considering pursuing an appropriation for a fire engine? At what point? I mean, would that be 2526 or would that
be 2627? What we'd be looking at? I know the chief is looking at that five-year uh kind of outlook that you asked for. Um, so I'm not sure how we look on that and when we need to consider that. Um,
and and whether that needs to be on here. Uh, we'll definitely, right? Why not? Yeah. Is that attached though to what Shane's working on for us? And then it would be well grants or he he would pursue an appropriation if
we chose for him to do that and ask him to do that. But that would be one of our legislative requests. So we typically would put two requests in. Correct. Y'all correct me if I'm wrong. Two. Two or three. There there's no um you know exact number. Um
yeah. if you felt like you had three, you know, very strong priorities. Yeah. Like I said, last year you only submitted one. Um, so if you came back with three this year, that would be fine. Well, you I'm in agreement with the fluent lines. Absolutely. We can't we
can't risk not doing that. And um the water main project is is important uh as well. So, I'm just trying to think ahead as far as timing of when we might ask uh for that because chances of it getting two appropriations probably might be
slim. I don't know. Uh and if we put three in, you know, that's a big ask probably right now from the state. So, after three after three. Well, I mean, whatever the council thinks. I mean, I'm just
Is that something that we can add at the next meeting? Like that we can talk about in the next two weeks amongst ourselves and Kobe and before we make a final decision. Is that something we could add to the thing? You'd be all right. Not to muddy the waters, but Kobe, can
you share with me what I I had asked about the grant that we've applied for for several years for fire engine. Can you just kind of We've applied I know I know this is the third year. I believe it's called FG. Uh it's through FEMA. We've applied three years now for new fire engine, but we
haven't been unsuccessful. Large part due to the match. We've we've put up the minimum match um versus what a lot of people put up and getting. Um so we've been unsuccessful in that. We applied for it this year, but we anticipated it did last year applying for it. It takes time and effort to do it and we're just
not getting getting anywhere with it. Um so what percentage were we offering? It's a very low. I think it was I mean we putting up 5% of whatever the ask is. So uh rel usually that is has been around 30 some thousand. So it's probably I can't believe it's somewhere
around the 40 range this year. Um we didn't budget for that. We did the same thing last year if you recall because it was one of those things where if we were to get it we could find $40,000 for an $800,000 engine. So it's $800,000 and I had to pull the exact the exact grant form. But it was it was close to
$800,000 this time for a fire for an engine. Okay. Was it as of the FEMA grant? Yeah. So, I don't And it was a 5%. Sorry. Yeah. Oh, and it was a 5% match. Okay. So, I don't know if we want to double
down and say, "Hey, we're going to apply for the grant and we're going to apply for legislative appropriation or if we want to, you know, use that slot for something else that that maybe is on the list or maybe staff would recommend on the list. But just food for thought. Is there any downside to doing that? Are
there any I mean certainly that's our priority. It sounds like it was to get whatever we could for the fire was our next for the grant and appropriation. Yeah. I mean you could you know try both.
I mean it would behoove us to do both. I mean we're not if we're not going to lose anything other than time and energy to put forth the application. I would do both. Yeah, I mean ultimately we would deny the grant over that over the appropriation because it wouldn't have a
match requirement. So, not a bad problem to have. Yeah. I I will note um with with the two first two projects that you identified, the effluent line, the AC water main, they're probably going to compete with one another in that water projects uh
silo. uh not to say that both of them won't get picked up, but you're, you know, you're competing for somewhat limited dollars because of, you know, statewide water infrastructure needs. So, you're you're likely not to get both of those funded. I'm not saying that that it won't, but as far as just diversifying
your ask, I think the third ask is what helps you helps you do that. Um because I I know how, you know, important those those first two are. For sure. Just just some thoughts, Dan.
the um concrete asbestous pipes that's supplying our drinking water. Does it fit in as far as a priority goes? That's the that's AC water. That's the same thing. Glad to hear.
So, I don't I don't think it hurts to get to get that one submitted as well. Well, that was my concern. I didn't want it to hurt us on the other projects. Um, okay. Well, couple things. I think that brings
up a good point is we have to we have to understand that there's different buckets for different dollars. So, this isn't just one big bucket that we're asking for. So, prior even prioritizing some of these different requests I think
is important. So in complete agreement that the AC water main and the eff line need to remain probably our top one and two priorities. Real quick, um I, J, and K. Uh so if you scroll back up just a little bit there, Jesse, um to me J
needs to be pulled off because I think it's it's already done. And then K is in the same boat. We've received the money from from the developer to complete that. So that needs to pull off. Yeah. And then Kobe, help me remember here. Uh, I
we did we pulled that off the CIP um until we got to the match plans. And I do apologize this list. I know Tim, he found he had to go kind of search back and find it. So, we added on here so you would see the format and we can do exactly what we're talking about before the next meeting, council meeting, we can have this updated and formatted the same as the CIP.
Yeah, we we don't and we don't make any changes until y'all direct those changes. So, what do y'all think about that? And and just suggested. I think it's probably a good idea. And then I have one, too. Okay. All right. Go ahead.
Um L is in Larry. Did we decide last time that we were going to remove that as well? We did not. We left that on the We left that on the CIP. Okay. On purpose. Yes. Okay. Even though it had been on there for a while. Yes. Okay. One last bag. Mr. Mayor, what about the
renovations for city hall? Can we somehow beg for money for the renovations that are needed here. The m I don't think so. I'm looking at them and I for renovation project typically. I I looked through your list and that was one that I say is probably
probably not with this this budget environment. Um, I don't want to bring up Doge or anything like that, but it's there's more of a, you know, locals take care of local projects and that seems to be and updating this too on top of the CIP. What outside of just the appropriations
request, Tim and Jennifer and and Liberty, they also use this when grants come up throughout the year. They'll take this list, okay, these are some of the main priorities. Does this grant fit one of these items on this list? So, it's not that it can't go on the major funding list. It just may not be a legislative priority. It may just be a
project. Makes sense. Yeah, I think that's a good point that we don't need to just limit it to the top three. We need to fill the list back out because just like you said, if a grant pops up in the middle of the year, they use this to to decide, are we going to apply for it or not? It's a great
point. Yeah. All right. So, we'll give you a hard list next meeting. We'll have one back. Yes. I'm sorry. We can have one back. Yes. Yeah. What was the tenor like today dealing with the property tax refund?
Oh gosh. Well, I don't know if they realize what they're dealing with, you know, as far as, you know, trying to cut around the corners or there just a lot. It's still a lot to take place before. Okay. Well, m Mr. Mayor, on that topic, from
the League of Cities perspective, are they planning on I know he mentioned that tomorrow was going to be the discussion about the impact on municipalities from the League of Cities in the middle of it. There is a little kit. We got a little tool kit uh that's available to all of us. Is Sumi in the
room? She might be in the back. Uh Sumi, do we you know the uh you got emails from the League of Cities with that uh toolkit about property tax? If if you hadn't already, I'd make sure
all these councilmen get that. Okay. Okay. All right. Yeah. So, is le the league going to be kind of front and center tomorrow for that? Okay. Yes. Yes. I think they're participating in that discussion. Okay. Yeah. And that's all about all we've talked
about the last few meetings I've been so critical. I thing is u how we educate the public. I have no idea. I know how to try. I'm not sure. Man, that's that's a tough one. That is a tough because everybody
wants their taxes lowered until they find out that they can't get a cop over there. Can't get the fire department over there or god knows what else. Can't get enough teachers, you know. But anyway, okay. So, we'll finalize this.
Of course, there's no doubt about it. Finalize this at the next meeting. You when you first started, you were talking about they're breaking down the municipalities. Are they breaking down school districts, the counties, the the Yeah, I think I think today they did um
they did fiscally constrained counties and what the impact would be there and then uh tomorrow cities, counties, and then I think they're going to touch on on Doge as well. I think one of the biggest things to look at, and I apologize for even
getting into this with you so much, but it's one of those things where we can't avoid it. We we rob from utilities to pay for the general fund and then we're in a we're in a deficit just in Abalorum as it is. So then we're transferring
those funds already. Two years ago the state was hammering the cities on um fix your wastewater your water issues. That's right. and and then we try to do so. But then at the same token now and and I realize that Laur's not gonna fund that, but please keep that in mind when
when lobbying these people and hammer them for us and I know you do. It's just where do we get the money to fix all these problems and we don't talk about it as openly just blatant and blunt all the time, but that's the truth. It's there's not
enough money to fix it all. So, thank you. Okay. Anything else? And we'll bring it back at the next meeting for the hard selection. Sounds good. Okay. Thank you, Tim. Thank you, sir.
All right, Kyle, if you want to come up and give us an update and time, our attorneys show up. All right. I'm going to go over the bimonthly uh client report for the months of July and August. Um during the months of July and August, the water
treatment facility um was 100% compliant with all the permits. We produced in total for the 3 months of 124 million gallons. Um the wastewater facility we're roughly sitting around 42
42% somewhere around there on the average of three months. Um, historically, as you can see in the graph, we've been kind of maintaining pretty steadily. Um, right there around 500 to 600,000
gallons. Um, right around 33 to 40%. Obviously, you're going to have a little bit higher usage in the summer. You know, kids are home, things of that nature. Um, going on to bioolids. Um, I'll touch on a point that the new fan press should be here. It was scheduled
to be here this week. They had a little delay um in the manufacturing, but I believe tentatively it should be here in the first week of October. So hopefully um with that coming in, we've already um city staff helped us remove the old belt press. So thank you'all for that. So
that's out of the way. So we are in preparations now. So when the new unit comes, I intend to be hit the ground running with it, you know, 100%. We still got a little little minor work that we got to do and close the building, things of that nature, but that can all come in time. Um, my main
focus, get the unit and start saving the cities some money because the liquid hauling, it's very, very costly and going through some of the budget stuff and things of that nature. I believe with buying that unit, we should be able to cut majority of that budget gone. Um, so that's going to I'm really excited
about that and for y'all. It's going to be a huge investment and it's going to be it's going to be a good thing for the city. Um, SCADA as well. They started a couple weeks ago installing some of the uh monitoring only stations on some of the singlephase stations that y'all
have. They are here this week with some of the three uh three-phase panels. Um, triplex stations, duplex stations, some of the three-phase. They're installing them currently this week. Um, also got the uh SIM cards for the units. They came in. I worked
with Randall. We orchestrated all that. So, now we have a call system. So, all that start all them pieces in the puzzle are starting to come together. I don't know when they'll be done. I can't tell you, but they're moving preemptively. They're pretty quick. Um, it's just waiting on the manufacturers to get the panels built. They're building them
specifically for the stations. So, each week they have a group of them come in and they do XYZ stations and then each week, you know, they get another shipment, so on and so forth. So, all that's coming into play. Um, so that should help alleviate some of the spills that we have. Now, it's not going to
mitigate it. You know, there's still another obstacle on that. Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, go ahead. Um, so I actually observed them working on the lift station that's out there in front of my house this afternoon. Uh, so was was happy to see that. Can you clarify one of the first things that
we wanted to address when installing the new SCADA system was the there was um that was brought to light that there was an inability to operate some of our wells without the SCADA system that was originally installed that we're now replacing. Have we addressed that as
kind of a first priority? That that's been done. Yeah, that was already that was the first phase. The water was done first in the emergency situation due to the fact that it's water and y'all know the drill. So that's been done. Perfect. And now we're working on the on the lift station side and then bringing it all together. Now the water wasn't
100% finished because they still had to build the inside program of it. And I'm not a tech guy so don't ask me any technical questions on all that stuff. But they basically once the lift stations get done the whole system will be conjoined together and operate like
right now how's it how it's working is I have a skater computer for water and I have a skater computer for wastewater. The water computer is functioning. It's been functioning. Now they're working on the programming side of inside of VT SCADA on the wastewater side and it'll all come together and then we do have manual backup
control so we won't find ourselves if for some reason SCADA goes down we won't find ourselves in a situation where we can't operate the wells. Is that right? That is correct. Okay. Yep. Okay. Thank you. Yes sir. Amy, you have a question? Um yes Kyle, this is just a comment or a
request. Sure. Is it possible that y'all could put a page in this report because I like the report, but like a legend page that would specifically say um the station number, the name and the physical location because like I'm looking at a couple of
things. For example, on page seven, I'm looking at these spills and it'll give me the number, but I don't know which one that is. So would you just put every time in this report this just a standard well one located at behind best western
and and yeah just a little more know and I don't have to keep asking uh staff hey where is this and that and I thank you for that. I I respect y'all's feedback because that's what I want to do is be able to provide a report to y'all that y'all can understand
and and this was fine because I'm going down to page 10 of 12. There's a couple other things where again it just gives the lift station number but then I'm going to have to go home look up where these things are and figure out okay what happened and I could I'd rather ask it in real time while you're here.
Okay. Would it be better if I just put it in like parentheses like when Dixie I mean that's how I identify them is by where they're located. Absolutely. That is fine. Just if you just be consistent. So wherever it is that you're going to use that. Uh Sure. Yeah. I most definitely do that going forward. Thank you.
You're welcome. Go ahead. Um, while we're contemplating our wish list for the upcoming legislative session and possible grants that might be available, um, as far as our water and sewer goes,
is there anything an Achilles heel that keeps you up at night that if it if the water stopped running and the toilet stopped flushing that there's something that we need to put on the priority list and maybe put on one of these wish listes? wish list.
You know, if you would have asked me that back in March of 20 2024, I probably would have gave you a long list. But current today, I feel very confident in what I what me and my team has accomplished. Right now, all of your wells are up and running. All your towers are good. I mean,
not, you know, beat my own back or anything like that, but so far I don't have anything that keeps me up at night. The only thing that's been keeping me up at night really, honestly, is not having skating. And that what was not having skater. Okay. But you know that there was nothing I mean both of our hands were tied at that
situation. There was nothing we I could have done differently. There was nothing the city could have done differently. It was just the way the cookie crumbled. Um so right now current day there's nothing outstanding that keeps me up at night in that realm of things. You know that drastic. You know I guess obviously
mother nature you know I can't control mother nature what mother nature's going to do. Um, but other than that, I I think we've come up with a great plan. I've worked very diligently with Randall, Mr. uh Townsen
on a plan and we're working together. And that's the way it all comes together. When we're divided, it's not going to come together, you know, as far as like the effluent breaks, you know, and I knew my short staff. I said, "Mike, if you need help,
man, call me. my guys will help you 110% because I know if I call Mike right now and I need some, he's going to help me and that's what we should do. Yeah, that's what we're here for. Couldn't ask for a better report than that. Thank you. So, couple couple comments. Um on the
bottom of page 10 of 31. Okay. Um there's the the last three there. There's the the plan, city's plan for expansion of the new plan. Well, with us being at, you know, 30 to 40% capacity,
and I think we're we're probably a ways off on that one. So, I don't I'm not sure if that needs to kind of show back up. And then I can take it off. It just and that's just my opinion, right? But but I say that so same thing with with two with uh the last two CC
basin and then plant one plant two talking about being drained and cleaned out and lined and replaced. So I've noticed over over time that those are reoccurring. Um I want to go back to the genesis of this
report and Mr. Kyle getting up here and providing this report on a bimonthly basis is because the council wanted to provide opportunity for for Jacobs to be able to communicate directly with the council because in the past it was said well you know we had this concern about
a motor repair and it never got brought up to the council and so we never repaired it. So that's the whole purpose behind this. So, I don't want to dictate, hey, take this off if you feel like it should be on there, but I I I guess I just want to ask that if if this
is going to be especially these last three are going to be kind of like a long-term thing. Yeah. Maybe they need to be moved to a different portion of the report. Um and and I don't know if maybe this is where Kobe could could chime in and say part of the master plan would be
addressing some of those issues that are at the bottom of of that list there. I don't know. A lot of the really the main reason why I put I reccur that is because there for a while we weren't having the discussions rightfully so and I just didn't want it to fall on the wayside. Sure.
You know and not and just totally forget about it. We are we've kicked off the task force me meetings again. He's got his staff in place. I got my staff in place. We got a game plan rolling. In fact, you know, we had a meeting the beginning of this month and Kobe sent out an email, hey man, we need to talk more about what we're going to do in the
future. Yeah. That's what these meetings are about. All right, cool. Let's do it. You know, I'm all for it. Yes. Yes. Absolutely. So, again, I'm sensitive to I don't want to tell you to take something off if you feel like it should be there because again, this is the opportunity for you to communicate directly with us and let us know the
priority. Um, so these two, the CC basin and this plant one and plant two. Do you have dollar figures for those? So, that I don't Okay. Okay. I would certainly like to to just understand what that entails. Um
obviously shutting down the plant and then cleaning it out. That that's that's a pretty big ordeal, but you know, lining it. Um and then it says the gates need to be replaced. You know, is that something that we can budget through R&M to to address some of those?
I believe so. Let me let me uh let me start making some phone calls now that we're engaged in conversations of what direction y'all want to go. Before I was kind of in limbo, you know, I don't want to spend city dollars on something and two years down the road you're gonna build a new plant, you know, it's waste of money, you know. So,
now that we have kind of a a plan going forward, I'm going to start making these calls to some of these major companies that do these retrofits that that come in here and fix this because be honest with you, some of these repairs are above me and it takes
experts above my knowledge to be able to to get some of this stuff completed. Well, I I think that the reality and this is just my opinion. Yeah, Council Makosen, I know you've expressed concern about the age of the plant and and and that infrastructure surrounding the
plant, but unfortunately the way, at least it's been explained to me over the years, we're we can't do anything until we hit the 50% mark. And then the moment we hit the 50% mark and we sign on the dotted line with an engineering firm and say, "Design us a new plant." It's a
minimum of five years before you actually bring that plant online and $80 million $85 million. Correct. That's what we were looking at last time was $85 million. So, we we definitely need to take care of the the plant that we have because it's it's probably going to be around for an
extended period of time to come, especially if we're only sitting at 30 36 to 40% now, right? um unless we just exceed see you know Freeport kind of growth in the next few years which would be great be a awesome thing to have but long story short I
think we need to invest in the current plant and make sure that it it is here for the long haul I think Glenn had a question yeah and and when you when you in a previous meeting mentioned that 50% that got my attention because I never heard that I didn't know that Kobe and I had a
conversation about this the other day it's great to see our capacity cuz there was a time a few months back, remember last year we were looking at, oh, we thought it was way up there, right? We were reaching near full capacity. Um, but to see it in the upper
30s and and 40s, uh, low 40s, that's that's a big relief. But we had a conversation, remember the other day about how many units are coming online and it was 900 and some odd new units, I think.
Look, I think it's 930 or so that have paid capacity fees. So, we have committed those that capacity too. That's right. Now, some of those are, you know, two to threeyear buildouts. Some of those five to six beer buildouts, give or take. But terms of number of erus paid so far, it's roughly
930 give or take, right? And right at what equates to uh I can't remember the exact I think 270 something thousand gallons. So, that would take us up to Yes. So, that would take us up about 60%. about 60%. Again, that's if they were online. We're getting there. Of course, all
these are have to be built out yet, but as you say, um it's it's time we have it at least on our mind. I think for sure, mayor. Yes, sir. I'm just going to throw this out there and I'm not going to ask for an answer. This is just something to kind of think
about uh for future meetings, but we're not going to I I just don't believe we're going to have luck getting $85 million for a new plant. and and a fraction of that cost. I'm just wondering how much it would cost to run a line from here to Freeport. They've
got a brand new sewer treatment center down there and they're nowhere close to capacity and that could take care of uh us and um at a fraction of having a $85 million plant. Is that something that we
we would even want to think about? We've talked about in the past, I think there's been conversation in the past of a joint plant south of I 10 Freeport and again that was prior to them building this ne this newest one they just built and I think expansions they're already planning on after that. Um so me Kyle
mentioned our monthly meetings we started having and part of those meetings on top of project updates and everything else is starting to look at expansion of water and sewer system of power water and sewer system um and the ideas and possibilities with that. Um, we think there's land there around the current wastewater plant that's probably
most feasible and attainable at some point. But in terms of going to Freeport, I don't know that, you know, there's a lot goes into that. You got to pay for that capacity. You got all those type of things. And to consider an effluent line that's running four miles, it's 11 million. I can only imagine how much it would cost
to put a line in running that far. Okay, Todd. So, I think that's that's a great point. Um, as Kobe mentioned, we we've had some of those conversations in the past. So, from my perspective, we originally went
down the path of one big plant to rule them all. Like you said, 85 plus million dollars is what we were staring down the barrel of. And then we we were presented with this concept of maybe doing instead of one big plant to rule them all, this
this idea of distributed operations as as I would kind of phrase it, right? Where we look at a joint plant south of town to basically take anything south of I 10 and ship it towards maybe the Rockill type area because it it all
depends on the soil and the geology where we can place it. but then also looking at taking flows that are on the west side of the fiac and maybe going out towards Mosyhead and and partner up with Walton County on that plant out there. So instead of having one big
massive plant north of town to which everything gets pumped to, we now start to have these distributed operations and then all of a sudden we're not staring down $80 million. We're staring down more manageable chunks that we can that we can take and and and divert flows that way.
Having kind of been through both now, I'm I'm leaning towards that distributed operations model. I think a joint plant with Freeport is a fantastic idea and then working something out with the county to maybe go go west towards their plant over there in um in Mosyhead would be would be how I would think we would
want to go. Yes, ma'am. Um somebody remind me what is CC Basin? What's CC stand for? Contact chamber. What is it? Contact chamber. That's your chlorine contact. Thank you.
All right. He's giving us an update. Uh I don't know we're going to solve every problem here on this update. Any anything else we let him go? I'd just like to tell him thank you. The report looks really good. He's given us a lot of information that we've asked for. I mean, this is what we've been
wanting. Thank you. Thank you. We thoroughly appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Right. Now we are with the American Legion Post 417. Is that correct?
Yes. Okay. All right. All right. Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council members and community guests. My name is Ken Sevil Jr. and I represent the American Legion here today, Post 417. We're a nonprofit veterans
organization dedicated to serving veterans, their families, and our local community. I'm accompanied here today with uh Tracy Bragg. Um I have to read this because it's it's a long one. The American Legion. Yes, please. Yes, sir.
Thank you. Uh the American Legion Department of Florida, Western Area Membership Chairperson, um my commander back here and uh Marine Oles and Cassie Wu. Um
they are two ladies that are members of the auxiliary unit from Fort Pierce that have moved here and they're looking to start um an auxiliary unit for the American Legion as well. So that's we're glad to have him here.
All right. Um we're here tonight to request the city's consideration for donation of a building to serve as a permanent home for our post. Uh we're requesting 435 North 9th Street and that's the old Boys and Girls Club. All right. Who we are? Uh Post417 has
been serving veterans in Walton County for three and a half years and we've been doing this without without a facility. We meet monthly at uh 4C's Barbecue in the back room. They're a veteranowned business veteranowned business that uh helps
support us. So, we're very thankful for that. And it's good food, you know, can't complain there. Our mission is to support veterans, strengthen communities, promote patriotism, and mentor the youth of our community. We're entirely volunteer-driven and operate with no profit motive. Every dollar we
raise goes back to uh back into veteran services and community programs. I passed out or uh Raphael passed out um some numbers I got from Fort Walton Beach and Crestview American Legions.
These are money that they've put back into the local communities that they serve. So I wanted to pass those along to you. Why a permanent building matters? The dedicate a dedicated facility would allow us to provide consistent veteran support services such as counseling, VA
benefits assistance, and peer support groups. Um, it would allow us to host community events, uh, blood drives, holiday observances, uh, d disaster relief coordination. Something happens, we can
be a staging ground or something for any vehicles that need to be coming into town. Um we we can host like I said those community events offer space for youth mentorship programs like boys and girls state scholarships and flag etiquette
education. We typically try to do that through the through the schools at the schools but uh we also want to preserve military history through displays, memorials and educational exhibits. benefits to veterans. Uh a centralized
hub, a permanent space makes it easier for veterans to access the services that we offer uh in one location. This is a big one for me, mental health support. Um a lot of military veterans
can come home with some uh pretty bad problems. And we can offer peer-to-peer sessions, PTESD awareness, workshops, and veteran family support meetings because we have to include the families as well. You know, they're living it as well.
Transition assistance, uh, job search help, resume workshops, skill training sessions for veterans re-entering the workforce. Benefits to the community. Um, emergency response center. The building could serve as a staging point for disaster
relief efforts. Community engagement. We can have open events, patriotic ceremonies, youth programs that strengthen civic pride. Economic boost events, fundraisers, and partnerships bring people into Defunia
Springs, which benefits the local restaurants and infrastructure there. If anybody wants to stay the night at any of our local hotels, they come in. Um, it also provides volunteer opportunities for people in the
community that want to be involved with helping the community and also American Legion. Um, this partner this this partnership reflects well on the city. It de uh demonstrates the city's commitment to honoring veterans and supporting
community- based service, increased civic visibility, and positive public relations for the FunC Springs reinforces our shared values of service, sacrifice, and community unity. Our commitment in return, maintain and improve the building at no cost to
taxpayers. It'll be completely taken off your books if you give it to us. uh ensure the facility is used for uh community benefit at least 30% of the time. We're going to keep programs open to all residents, not just veterans,
and partner with local schools, law enforcement, and civic organizations for public good. Um in the proposal that I turned in, I I included all of the scholarships. Well, it's actually not all of them, but scholarships that the American Legion is
known for. And last year alone, American Legion gave out over $8 million in scholarships. So, that's a fairly hefty amount of money. And that's impressive. The donation of a building to American
for American Legion Post 417 is more than a gift. It's an investment in people, history, and the future of Defunia Springs. Together, we can create a lasting space that honors service and strengthens our community for generations. Thank you for allowing me your time to speak. Um,
oh, thank you for allowing me to speak. Your service to the city and your consideration for this request. U questions, council, I've got one. Go ahead. Let's just pretend for a minute we think
this is a good idea. Instead of giving them city property, let them lease it for a dollar a year and then they take care
of all the maintenance and everything else. I think it's too valuable of a piece of property to just give away. It's right there off of a main, you know, 83 North.
It's just a thought, Mr. Mayor. Yeah, go ahead. Can Can I expound on that a little bit as well? I I agree with you, Councilman Cosen. I I think that that would be a good idea, but I think we've got a little bit more that we can add to it as well. Um I you see we see and we've
heard a lot about community involvement letting others uh use the facility as well. We've also had um some discussion in past meetings about a veterans memorial. Um and in speaking with Kobe behind the scenes in preparation for the
meeting, this topic came up and it and we were both talking and it's like well why not let this be for all veterans then? So, we have other local chapters that are here in the area. I don't know the conditions of their current facilities or where they stand on that
or anything else, but I can see this being a joint facility for all meetings for for for veterans and for their health and well-being and recreation, but also a place for veterans memorial as well. Let them Dang even made the
comment about if you give us uh our memorial, then we'll we'll take care of it. We'll we'll keep it a what a better place than a facility to where the veterans come to congregate. So when you say a shared facility, are you
talking about including uh VFW, Amvet, disabled veterans? Yes. Well, can I? And there's a lot of space in that facility as well. All right. Each each organization has its own mission and purpose. Okay. VFW
is veterans of foreign wars. Okay. Your DAV is disabled of American veterans. Um, Amvets, I think, accept everybody with honorable and that's our we accept everybody with honorable as well. But
the thing that okay the thing about those other clubs is when you have a club when you have a space to go your hub okay VFW guys are only going to go to VFW because they've been in situations that well I don't know if you're veteran or
not so I don't want to assume okay but if if you haven't ever been to a war a foreign war and been a part of it you know you're going to have a hard time I'm going to have a hard time fitting in with those guys because I'm I can't talk about what they talk about. You know, they feel comfortable around people that
have been through what they've been through. So, they're still going to be comfortable around vets, but uh getting all the veteran organizations into one building is not it's not feasible. Well, I was thinking more along the lines of different times. So, it's like
give you a joint space and then you all coordinate when you're going to meet there in that space. Well, the VFD, I'm sorry. May I elaborate on that? Yes, ma'am. We already have one in the Panama City Market that does um have both of those entities with the BFW and
the American Legion and they do work together cohesively as well as separately. So there's an opportunity to do so. There would have to be a contract obviously of when they're going to use it and things of that nature, but we already have that that collaboration.
Well, the American Legion is going to put a lot of money in to fix the building. So, we don't want it to be taken away from us um at any time. We're going to we want to be able to fix it up and make
it our way. Um most American Legions have a canteen in them. Well, if it's a government-owned building, I don't think we're allowed to have alcohol in the building. So, that is without permit. Correct. Okay. I didn't know that. So, thank you. Sorry.
No, it's all right. I'm I just got the message last night to come up here and and try to help with this. So, again, I'm with the Department of Florida as the Western area membership chairman for the auxiliary side. I am trying to help these young ladies start a unit. They have to have a
charter and they have to have a building to be able to get that charter going. So, that's why I'm here this evening and also help them as well. I know that we can get our membership numbers up. Right now, we're currently sitting at we have 17 members as of now, but uh at
the beginning of the year, we'll be at 16 members. There's over 500 veterans as of I want to say it was 24 in the 24 numbers. There's over 500 veterans in in defeating X Springs. You know, we want to provide a place for them to come. We don't care if they're American veterans
or if they're disabled veterans. We we're helping all veterans with the Legion and the money that we earn goes back into our programs that we support and also uh national where they they go to Washington DC and they they fight for
our rights as veterans, our benefits or I think if I'm not mistaken where I read they're one of the main forces behind us getting the GI bill when it was first coming aboard. So, we provide a vital service and we're just looking for a
facility where we can bring our own in and help them out. It's not just it's not a bar. It's it just has a bar in it. So, it's not I don't want that to be the main focus that there's going to be alcohol served there maybe if we get
the license. We want people to know that it's it's there for everybody. they VFW and all those guys, they can come there and drink as long as they're a member. You know, they would have to join. But, uh, there will be open days, membership drives and stuff like that where people can come in. But, we we're
looking for a building with either a long-term lease for a, you know, a little bit about a little bit amount of money till we get on our feet or we're looking for a building to be donated to us in whole. I know that's a lot. I know that's a big
ask, but uh we we're very confident in what we can bring to this community. So, can you help me understand when you mentioned that you you would like to take kind of take it off our hands and then you want to improve it and invest in it. Um I know that several years ago
the city had an assessment done and and it was not a pretty assessment. You know, there there's I guess my question, my ultimate question just for brass tax would be, do you do you realize what you're about to bite off if if we hypothetically were to to donate the
building for you? Um, how would you fund the renovations? Because in my from my point of view, and this was precoid, the numbers that were being thrown around were a million dollars or more, you know, because the windows need to be replaced. there's
issues with the roof. Um, you know, that that that's an old old armory building. Um, so I guess I want to understand how you you all plan to bring about the the the money to actually renovate that building and bring it up to standards. Yeah, absolutely.
With that, we have collaborations with um both Herbert and Eglund that will do all of the the work for us as part of their volunteer hours. We do that currently with several other legions in the area. So, as far as labor, that's
going to be great. They can go out and get donations from like Lowe's and Home Depot and things of that nature because they have those grant processes. And of course, they're going to go out and get grants from other locations as well. Fundraising is going to be huge as far as going out and doing your bake sales
and your your uh car washes. And then, of course, you have your dinners that you have every week as well. Those funds will come in. We have grant processes through the American Legion National Headquarters as well. It can go with that kind of money. Um the the materials
is going to be the hardest part obviously, but there's going to be a lot of fundraising efforts and they're not alone. This is a districtwide district one here is from Pensacola down to Panama City. When we help, we help all. So, do you do you have some recent examples of where you were donated a
building and then you fundraised and received grants, you know, to cover and again, I'm talking like millions of dollars worth of of renovations that we're we're potentially looking millions. No, couple hundred thousand. Yes, I can give
you examples of that. Okay. Yeah, I I would certainly like to, if you don't mind emailing that to the the council, would certainly like to see that. And then can you remind me because I was trying to get the mayor's attention. How many members did you say you had currently? Currently we have 16. Okay. And
how many? 16. We have six. I'm sorry. 16. Um, we currently have 16. And the biggest reason why we're we're so low is because we don't have a place to meet. Sure. You know, right now, thank God 4C's is allowing us to sit there and and have
our meetings there. They've been a huge blessing to us. But, you know, you guys want to have a place to come and relax. that's that's theirs. You know, they got their favorite chair, place pool or whatever, just at their comfort, you know, they just want to be comfortable around your people.
So So you mentioned that you're you're interested in like a long-term lease. So if there if there were to be another building in Defunia that's available for a long-term lease that maybe offers you a good rate now and then once you get on your feet, would you be open to that as
well? I think that I think I think I think okay to say it. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Also, I mean, we're we're not opposed to having land
donated, you know, big enough to where we could build a building and get one put. I I like your dreaming, man. You're swinging for the fences for the trees. I I I appreciate that. I I think I think that Legion's very We need to find We need to find a way to support you because
when I was having a bad time, I had nowhere to go except for the Legion. So, I just felt comfortable. That was the one in Destin when I lived down there. Sure. You know, and it's it's important. Yeah. It's really important. Absolutely. So, go ahead. Um, if you're going to
give us or provide us with that additional information that the councilman's asking for, is there any way I heard you say you were in operations for three and a half years now here locally. Is that correct? Did I hear you say that? Could you provide us with your details of all these statistics? Because I
noticed you gave us Fort Walton. Yes, we have we have reports, but I did not pull them up. Yeah, that I haven't pulled our reports up. I I've just stepped into this role as the agent and or agitant, so I'm I'm still getting my feet underneath me.
Yeah. And I like what you're asking for. Uh right now, I know that for me personally, it's it's hard because we've got a lot of things going on in the city and that we need to help uh with ourselves and our financial position and some things that we're going to be
challenges that we're going to be facing. So, it would be hard for me to support this before we support it ourselves, but I do like what you're asking for and I do like what your organization does for our veterans. Thank you.
as you know just two things I mean a lot of things but two things I want to mention was you know one we do we we as the city work with uh BFW and DAV and they we've done a lot of things together and uh I don't know we're going to have
them come back saying you're going to give these guys you know two $300,000 property what you going to do for us you know um and then secondly is that uh now I see what you've got here on this
list of things, but I think one of the things we really want to see is we want the city to love the fact that you're here. We do too. We want our citizens to love the fact that you are here. Yeah, we do too. Absolutely. May I answer that?
Go ahead. in the city of Navar where I'm from and town of Navar I should say because we're not incorporated but um they will feel the impact of us not being there. That's how much we put
in. Um just last year we put in over $200,000 into the community and the little old town of Navar. That equivalents to over $2 million that goes back to our veterans in the form of the VA, in the form of the GI Bill. um Camp Lune, all
of those different things that happen when the veterans are out there and coming back home. So, when we're passionate about it and we're talking about it, that's what we do it for. We do I'm sorry, I'm going to get a little emotional. Sorry. Saturday, we had an event called Be the One, be that partner
to listen to that person, make sure that they don't go through all of this alone. and we raised over $23,000 Saturday to be able to give to Project Vet relief, which is another organization through the American Legion. And what that does is they vet BSO projects across the
United, excuse me, across the state of Florida. One of them happens to be Defenders of Freedom. They're the only one in the state of Florida on the panhandle, I'm sorry, that is being recognized as one of those VSO organizations. They took a patient to te
uh Texas for a TBI treatment. The gentleman was on 25 different medications. He's now on two. That's what we do. Yeah. We save those lives. And if it saves one person today, we've done our job.
Sure. Yeah. Well, I certainly appreciate that. And I would uh the council can do whatever they choose. I would really like you to be in the room, you know, before we made a declared motion uh or approved a declared motion,
but u that's up to the council if you all no one's made any motions so far. Um but uh what would you consider to be um reasonable long-term lease for a dollar
a year? We had discussed that, didn't we? Yes. Come on up. Yeah. Post stayed. Stay stand. Um, yes, we do can accept the lease. Say your name for the
Oh, I'm sorry. My name is James Smith. I go by Jay. I am the commander for post 417. I have been a commander now for almost two and a half years. Um, we have been working towards this. Uh, one of the problems we get is nobody knows we're here yet. We we get a lot of people coming up to us. We've been doing
the farmers markets here recently a couple uh the Shiakqua um fest and stuff like that trying to get our name out there and we still get people come up to us. Don't know that we're here yet. And that's how we've gotten started getting more members um to join up with us is through
word of mouth right now. We're trying to get something a little bit bigger. Um um to answer your question sir is the uh leases they usually want them to be 20 to 25 years uh span. Uh reason being for
the length is so if something happens um it gives us a chance if to if we need to to um expand or get something of our own to be able to give you your building back if you want to end the lease after that certain time. Uh, so it gives us so
much, you know, a span of time to be able to build funds and, um, be able to get something else, purchase another piece of land or another building and move into it to be able to give you your property back. Um, so for a short-term lease of only like three or four years
would not work for us. We'd have to have something I, if I remember correctly, it's a minimum of 25 20. Okay. Um, I know I've looked into that one before trying to present this before. It's just we've
been slowly trying to work towards this. Um, so something like that, if we could do something of a minimum of 20 years with the lease, we'd be more than happy with it. And just to give the council kind of an update, is that the school district's
going to be moved out the next couple weeks? They've been in there for a while now. And I understand they fixed the air conditioner out there. I guess it was the big one because it wasn't working when they moved in. Uh so, uh I think the little offices around there were
little window units and stuff, but I guess we may have uh we don't have any of our maintenance people in the room. Do you know, Kobe, if that's got a big central unit for the main auditorium? I don't. We'd have to look. Of course, we call it Boys and Girls Club, but that
was where I went to the National Guard Armory in 1970. So, and it was had some years on it then. So, I'm not sure when it was built, but my guess would be in the probably around 1950, you know. Have y'all been in that building? Yes, I have.
But you know what you're getting into? Yes. It would have it would have to have some renovations and stuff, but it's got plenty of space to be able to house the Legion auxiliary, the Suns, and even a writers American Legion writers group, which
too, and I, you know, I had I had just asked him about uh the school district because they're building all these great big fine buildings out there on Walter Road. I said, "Are you guys making room for all your storage?" You know, he said,
"No." hadn't thought about it. I said, "This is no pressure call. I'm not asking you to move a thing." I said, "I just wanted to find out what your plans were." And lo and behold, he called me back early this morning. He says, "We'll have it cleared out in a week or so." I said, "Really?" I said, "I am not
pushing you on this." So, anyway, that's how I got into it as they were moving. Didn't go out there and say something, did you? No, I didn't. No, no, I know you didn't. But anyway, so that's just a quick update on the facility and uh you know, it drives me
nuts. U you know, down here in this part of the country, everything on the north side is always mildewy, mildew, mildew, you know, and I drive by there and see that building, it just irks me to see. What about this one? Yeah. Well, it ain't nothing compared to that one, you know, and uh but anyway,
it's uh I would really love to see it vital vital and you know, being a blessing community and us not spending any money on it. You know, those are three big things I'd love to see happen. Uh but that's that's up to this council. Well, that's the one good thing with the
veterans. Sorry, sir. Uh we have with the veteran group that we have especially in the in the west western area here um between all the veterans we have everything we need all all the manpower we would need to be able to work on the building so it wouldn't the labor would
cost us pizza and beer probably um that's the best thing about veterans um we have a unique skill sets all across the board um we can like like they were saying there are grants available we've already had one post in Gulf Breeze, I
think it was, that has already received a grant that they've used to help uh work on their building. They move just moved into a new building, as a matter of fact, and they got the grants for that to fix everything up that they needed to renovate and move into it. Um,
so and a lot of stuff, a lot of the lot of lot of the manpower came from the veterans of the uh membership of the Legion there. They were able to do a lot of the work. They're all skilled workers. A lot of us are. Uh myself,
I've got a background in u carpentry, plumbing, and electrical. Uh so I can already look at stuff and, you know, understand what has to be to code, what what it has to be done to get it to where we need to.
Yes. Uh my ex-wife, uh we're on good terms. Uh but she's a general contractor. Um, so she said she would help out any way that she could. So she has crews and stuff that could come in and help. We'd still probably have to pay, but it would
be on Can I ask a question, Mayor? Can I ask a question? What was that? The the grants that you got were the buildings that you own or lease? They own their buildings. They own the buildings. I know there is
one, I think it's in Jay, Florida, the American Legion there. They actually uh lease their building. They have a uh they did theirs on a 99-year lease of a dollar a month, I think it was. Um so theirs is a lease building, but like I say, it's very long term. Clay, let me bring you up to date. You
there? Yes, sir. Okay, sir. Go ahead. I had uh I've I've spoke with um the American Legion here. Uh this is post 417 and uh I don't know what three months ago we called. Yes sir.
And um anyway they were going to come up with a proposal and bring it to the council uh in hopes that they could either be given or a very very low lease for the armory the old armory building. Anyway, and of course they've said some
things that are very favorable it sounds like to the council. Um, I did not want to move forward with any um motion really without you being here. Um, because I don't know what else this
may entail. How long how long would it be before you get here? What I'd say is this, mayor. I'm perfectly comfortable. I reviewed the situation. If the council is interested in establishing a memorandum of agreement and thereby leasing, it will
be a memorandum of agreement and lease will be a dual document scenario between the BFW and the city. We can structure that. We will need to do both given of their organization and city property back at your next meeting. So really the
only thing the council can do tonight is determine do they even want to move forward and get those documents back. Okay. All right. Well, that's where we'll go with this because we're going to have to have votes and the memorandum of agreement is actually be more important than the
lease. The lease is going to be pro for Okay. All right. See you in a little bit. I hope so. Mayor, we're on the final motion here. We got a motion to reduce the bill in. So, I'll be there as quickly as I can. Thank you. Okay.
All right. So, this is going to probably in two or three phases, but uh Mayor Yes, sir. Go ahead. So, couple things. One, you know, um Councilwoman Heavlin said uh about the situation the
city's in budget-wise and and we are and we're always looking for ways to increase revenue. that's kind of our our problem right now uh that that we're faced and there's no one that doesn't want to do something for veterans. Um but I think it's something that we've
got to give some thought to. Um I don't I I would hate to see us make a spur-of-the- moment decision on something this big and this valuable uh to the city and not that veterans are not valuable. They are super valuable to us. My other question, this is curiosity. I raised two daughters. you
have three three women sitting here and and I was a high school teacher and so this was a common thing for us to treat everybody the same or what have you. I just this is curiosity, nothing to do with the decision about this property whatsoever, but what what what direction
uh is the American Legion going as far as for for girls? Because you have the boys the boys state and boys nation where they learn about government, but there's nothing like that for girls that I see. There is we we have a
I am the uh department girl state, excuse me, the western area girl state director for that as well. With that, we have the same program that the boys do. We raise money to send over 300 girls statewide. Very good. Very selective. We do interview
processes. They go to the state capital. One of our girls from district one was in Pensacola, was the mayor, the governor this year back in June. So, we're providing those girls the experience that they're going to take with them for the rest of their lives. Perfect. Thank you.
And we have a junior's program. I want to talk about that as well. Sorry, I'll get you. I'll get there. So, with that, the juniors are sons of the American Legion, the the daughters of the American Legion, and it's a two generation step. So it can be a mother,
father, grandmother, grandfather, brother, sister, uncle that these children can come up under and they are getting all the experiences. So they're doing the same pillars that we are. We're about Americanism, national security, veterans affair, and children and youth.
That is what our goals are. Good. I remember American Legion from playing little league. Absolutely. The goal was to make an American Legion team, right? And Oh, we still have them. Yeah. Yes. Thank you. Yes, Mayor. Go ahead. So,
how about we do this? Um, several of us have asked for some information. Um, and I agree. I don't think we just need to kind of shoot from the hip and make a make a decision tonight. So, how about we do this? How about we task staff with gathering the information we requested,
plus maybe having a a general contractor come out and give an estimate on repair costs of the building and also having staff kind of evaluate the use of the building, you know, because we we've thrown out over the years many different types of uses for
the building, right? So maybe have staff kind of evaluate the use of the building. Um and bring that information back much like city attorney indicated. There's going to have to be some stuff brought back there as well. Um and we just asked them to maybe return. Um
Kobe, how long do you think you need? Do you think you need a month? I think two weeks might be a little bit of a tight turnaround, right? Yeah, just in the case of a you trying to find a contractor who' be coming out kind of will and help us out. I'm sure we'll find one, but it may take will take a week or so. So, I'd say probably by the end of the month, we should have something back.
That's our our second meeting in October. What day is that? Uh, that too early. I wouldn't think so. Um, if for some reason we come into a problem, we'll let we'll let the council know. But that would be the 27th of October. 27th. Am I reading that right? Okay.
So, why don't I do this? Why don't I Again, Clay's not here to always give the perfect advice on how to table. I'm thinking that we table this till the last meeting in October and then that would give everybody time to bring back information, allow us to to contemplate
it and kind of go from there and then that way your your spot on on the list is reserved. We'll table it. Does that sound good to everybody? Sure. Okay. So, I'll make a motion to table this to the last meeting in in October. Second.
Motion second. Questions, comments from anyone? Uh just one last thing as as he was saying if that building does not become available or if something that one falls through um if there's anything else that is available um we we we're
not opposed to this if it's smaller. We'll we'll make do. Um we we'll take anything right now. Are they going to have access to the building between now and then for their Well, they they have to go through Kobe. He can send somebody with them
if you will. Uh assuming gather is in the back you'll get before you leave one contact information to send us over the information you can gather and then we can try and coordinate a time if we do get a contractor out there we should we try to contact coordinate yeah there you need to see we try to coordinate somebody can be
there at the same time okay kind of hear what they're talking about and provide some so that shouldn't be a problem how many square feet is this place it's big how many what square feet can I can I ask that this that staff try to go back fine. We we had an evaluation
done on this building right after I was elected. So that would have been 2019 2020 time frame. So obviously the numbers are not going to be right because of postcoid inflation, but at least that would give us some idea of what the recommendations were way back when on what the building needed. So
could I ask staff to maybe attempt to find it? I know that's like needle in a hay sack, but at least put that on the to-do list. What was that about 50 by 100 the building itself? I don't know the exact size, but it's I'd say it's real close to that. a huge building. It's a pretty good size. And I will I will say our CPR reports
that where I'm going to get that information, since we've only had 14 to 15 people the whole time, our numbers are going to be nowhere compared to That's okay. I'm just curious as to what it is that you're uh doing. I mean, I'm okay with that. I understand.
Just going off the property appraisers website, um square footage, base area, theirs is saying roughly 10,774. Wow. base area. That's four times the square. Well, I mean, there's a gym in the
middle of it. I mean, there's a basketball court right in the middle of it. Actually, having the gym in it was actually quite uh beneficial because it can be used for multiple They can. Yeah. Some of the property around it is uh is probably a lot bigger than you need and
we probably don't want to give it up because lot to the north of it uh that's ours as well and we want to be able to have access to the west of the armor. In other words, we don't we don't want to sell all our property back there or even lock it up in the lease.
Correct. You know what I'm saying? So anyway, all those things can be worked out in the upcoming weeks. Kobe, will you give me a tour out there? Can you have somebody take me? I've never been there. Yeah, we can coordinate with Andrew. Thank you guys. I appreciate what you're
doing. Thank you. Thank you. So, we have a motion. We have a motion to table. Okay. Motion second. Well, I don't need to. All in favor say it was just a table. Correct. Yes, ma'am. Yes. I I I I carried. Thank you very much. Thank you.
Thank you. Okay, we're going to go to citizens comments. Uh, anyone has a comment, you got three minutes, up to three minutes. Please give your name and organization you represent if so. And you're welcome
to come to the podium at this time. I don't mean you, Mr. Hurley. I see him looking back there like he needs he's got to say something. All right, we're going to close for comments. Uh, our attorney is not here. So, we will go to Miss Heavlin on the discussion.
Mayor, but we did move an item. Oh, I'm sorry. We didn't move that. Where? We moved to A1. Is that what it was? 7 A1 and that was uh previously the purchase sale agreement. Okay, I got you. All right, Kobe. Just uh so I know
councilman Harris had questions. Clay I'm looking at him. He is not going to be here for this. So I don't know if that's something the council wants to continue to the next meeting or go through this discussion. But all I had a question about was the contract had said seller will pay attorney fees which would be the city
but there's no specification as to what the attorney fees would be. Um and I assume we use clay for that or or what. So I don't know what the standard is this uh for the city. This is like our first Yeah. property sale that that we have
closing for that property. We have not received appeal for. Okay. But anyway, yeah. Yeah, that's that's not a problem. Motion to table unless the client is one of his. Motion to table. Second.
Okay. Now, we're just about to wrap this up if you walk in, which I don't think you will in the next 10 minutes. You want Can we go with another one and come back to it? I mean, that's up to them. I don't I don't know if we can shift around the way, but I would say I would. And again, I'm just going Motion table. You can always make a
motion. Mayor, just going off prior history. I'm I'm going to say he's going to want you to continue rather than table. Continue. Moves it to the automatically moves it to the next meeting. You amend it. Okay. Amend it to continue. Amen. My second continue. All right. All in favor say I.
I. Okay. Uh, at what point can we the next meeting get that answer for the next meeting? We'll make sure he's aware and because it'll be on it'll be on the first meeting. Okay. All right. I I car. Thank you very much. We'll go to
Mr. Cosen. Okay. Oh, I'm sorry. Now we'll go. Yeah. Thanks. I the thing I wanted uh discussions on November the 24th. I know we always set like what days we're going to be closed or not have meetings. I'm trying to make
plans for November and December. And I was wondering would you all be amiable to if we cancelled the second meeting in November which will be the thanks week of Thanksgiving. It's the Monday prior to Thanksgiving. It is. I would
and I'm okay with missing a meeting. I just was trying to avoid missing a meeting and I just thought, you know, it's the holidays. I don't know what's going to be. Sounds good to me. I don't know, of course, what's going to be on that. Yeah. Uh particular meeting or whatever. I was
just assuming it would be a slow week since it was the Thanksgiving. I mean, you can always How many days we need for a special meeting? Three days. Uh no, no, special meetings are six hours. That's for an emergency though, right? Well, it's a special that's a special
meeting encompasses everything. So, rate tip hour by ordinance our advertisement of meetings is 48 hours, but a special meeting which encompasses emergencies is six hours. We can always pull that off if we need to. Yeah, that's an option if you don't want to tell us what you want.
Mr. Bear. Yeah. So, the end of the year certainly is always a busy time with everyone, you know, celebrating Thanksgiving and Christmas. Uh my experience has been it never fails that we get down to the end of the year
and it actually ends up being a little busy from a an agenda perspective. Um I I would be inclined to maybe leave it and then maybe a little bit closer to the time we decide if we want to want to keep it at that moment in time and just
kind of play it by ear. So leave leave it as is for now and then just see if we we from a an agenda perspective maybe we get to the 1 of November and Kobe says hey you know we can get everything done on the first agenda in November and then at that point we can we can cancel that
that other meeting but historically we've had one meeting in November and one meeting in December and it's crammed everything into those two meetings. Mayor, um my my first thought was anything in relation to the airport. I know we've
been pursuing the uh easement from the county and we don't have an answer on that yet. Correct. And and the timing of all this, we know this is important, right? So, I I would I hope it's not that far into the future that we get that issue resolved, but if it happened
to come come down to that, it might be well at the holidays before we're able to address that and you need that as soon as possible. Correct. Correct. We're currently working with the county staff, so hopefully we'll have that here soon. Um, but yeah, but as of now, I don't know when that's going to occur.
True. What was the issue? What was the item? the the easement that we're asking the county for. Yeah, Mr. Mayor, I'm good with being here. I mean, I I have to miss one at least a year anyway as it is. As long as we got
quum, I think we're pretty good. So, either way, I'm good. Plane tickets is what I'm trying to figure out. You know, it's hard to make to try to make, but I'll I mean, I'll make it work for me. So, that's fine. I just Go ahead and get them.
Go ahead and get them. I'll get them. Just just for clarification, uh Mr. Cosen asked what the easement that I was referring to. It's the easement to the east side of the airport. Um
so that that aspect of the project can can start uh in progress. It it is um yeah, it's off Country Club Drive. Off Country Club Drive to the development are currently using
one of our access points uh at West End out near the right next to the railroad track actually uh to do some of their projects on the east side of the golf course uh currently. So we're looking to to to get the access to that other
easement that east side of the airport which opens that other what 35 45 acres or so correct that's where it was back in. Yes, sir. Okay. All right. So,
what was the final on the We didn't make a motion. I just was leaving it. All right. Good enough. All right. Mr. Co. Okay. So, um reference to airport update meetings.
Before we got involved in budget season, uh we were having a once a month airport workshop where uh Garber and Barge would be in and uh field questions and uh
have the public come in and weigh in. I'm hoping that now that the budget season's over, we can resume that. Um, there's some things that would help us as far as
making sure that we're on the time rank on the time track. I'm not interested in anybody coming in here and saying or doing anything that's going to delay this. If they want to come up here and say, uh, I think we should have a concession stand out there. Well, I don't even want to hear
that. I'm interested in getting making sure that these deadlines are met. Uh there's a lot of misinformation out there and it's because people don't know something that I learned recently that I believe it was the
uh correct me if I'm wrong Kobe the ARPA money where we got uh like five 5.5 million from the county. Now, once the county gave us that, we're not under a deadline,
but we are under a deadline for the other three for the other three. So, that's the kind of information that that people need to be aware of. and I just learned that and there's other things
that um could be beneficial to us by returning to this. And I'm trying to make sure the bottom line is is that come December 31st, 2026
that we've done everything we're supposed to do. We don't lose any money. Making sure everybody's on track. the right hand knows what the left hand's doing and resume our airport workshops.
Well, I think CO is uh is already having a monthly meeting and includes everybody involved in the airport, the engineers, Liberty Partners, myself, and following that we're going to have at least once a month an update to the
council. Is that correct? So, that's possible. That's what everybody wants. I think what Councilman Cushion is getting at, what he's referring to is back in the spring when I asked the council if they'd be willing to have a standing workshop every month before the second meeting of the month, assuming we had a topic to cover. We
didn't we haven't done those during budget because we had so many meetings going on. Um, so we can we can resume those in October and we haven't we've not had a standing airport workshop, but he's referring to that particular one before the second meeting of the month. So, I think the request is for the next
one on October 27th at 4:00 to be about the airport, an update on those projects is is my understanding of the request. I'm I'm in support of that. Okay. I'm I'm in support of resuming the monthly workshops and then first topic can be the airport. I'm totally in
support of that. Motion to approve. Do I'll second. Okay. Have a motion. Second. Um that will always be on the second. Well, so this this this top this workshop, this topic will be the
airport. Now, in terms of a monthly update at a regular meeting, if that's something we want to do, we can do that. Um, but this would just be the one-time topic for that workshop. In November, it may be something different if that's what we decide. I would like to be laser focused on this
airport until uh December 31st, 2026. I can provide a separate one. uh you know it's in the monthly report. We can highlight that more and create a little more detail to it. Uh it's already in the monthly report, but I mean we we'll do whatever the council wants to do.
I just prefer reading it through the report and asking questions if we need it or having that meeting for uh additional important topics that surround that airport. Is that good?
What you're want if he's got all the information in that monthly report that he sends out electronically instead of being here physically and looking us in the eye and uh answering questions. Well, no, I'm with that one. He's I
understand our next one will be for that, but I don't want to do it every month for that. But that's what I'm hearing you say. You would like to see that happen every month. So, I'm I'm in agreement with both. I I completely agree with you. We need to be laser focused. We need to make sure that
that all of the the the various engineering firms are on the same page and communicating. I also agree with Councilwoman Heavlin that maybe maybe having a a dedicated workshop about it every month might be a little too much, but I'm also in support of once a month
having an open workshop in which various topics can come up and and resuming that that schedule of the second meeting of the month at four o'clock we have an open workshop where we can put various topics on on the agenda. Not just the airport, not just the airport. Well, to be honest
with you, I'm only interested in the airport. And if you don't want to if you don't you know what else is there that that we haven't Well, you're going to get a report. What else is there? There there's a lot in the city. Financial issues there. Okay. Here's thing is going to get a report.
If there's something lacking or missing, then we might need to have workshops. Okay. I'm in support of both. Let's just let's just call it month to month. Okay. call it month to month. No, we're let him give us a hopefully a
30-day notice. If not, give us a 14-day notice if we're going to have a work. If we're going to have Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to resume. I think the motion was to resume the monthly workshops on the second meeting from 4 to 5. Okay.
From 4 to 5. Whether or not it's airport for whatever. Correct. You can let us know. Correct. Other than that, it'll be in my monthly report that I provide to the council. Correct. and he's he's agreed to to increase the the reporting amount on on the airport. But I Dan, I
agree with you. There's a lot of moving plates there at the airport that that we all need to make sure that we we keep on top of. But again, I don't I don't know. I don't want to burden staff with having to produce a report and then what we end up getting is just the same old report regenerated once a month.
But I think once these things start in motion, Yep. Then we will have projected timelines and and that's where the reports come in handy where we're meeting those deadlines or not on those projections because whether you know is going to be a factor and those types of
things. So it'll be necessary to have continuous updates. Did we make a motion on that? Yes. Okay. Uh any other questions on that? All in favor say I. I. I. I. I. I. Carry. Thank you very much. Kobe, you got any
comments? Just real quick, mayor. Uh the library project's coming along. Uh we ran into a little bit of a snafu with the roof. Not a big deal. Working through it like everything else. So we'll be on the roof here soon and uh that project is moving right along. Uh building working with a contractor on their bid. Uh currently
hung up on the air conditioning. So we'll get through that and hopefully we'll have something here to the council very soon. Uh lastly, the effluent line is moving along. The design is and so uh we're working with our engineers on that. Every month and every week they provide updates to us about where they're at. So, we are moving on right
along with the effent line, too. So, okay. All right. Do y'all want to take up that property sale or you want to wait? You've already continued it. I don't know if we can go back to the council if they want. They can reopen if they want to. I I'll second to reopen.
Okay. All right. Have a motion to reopen. Did we get Was that a second or I'll second motion second? Okay. All right. Uh meeting is any question? All in favor say I. Hi. Oh, is it just a reopen?
Yeah, just to bring it back up. As long as you're in your same meeting, you can do it. I Yeah. I Carrie. All right. This is the 32 South 21st Street property purchase. We've discussed before. You have in front of you a purchase and sell agreement. Um for the
stated purchase price. The biggest comments I would have to you about this would be um they have proposed that the city would be responsible for one half of escrow and closing fees. Um typically
um that is a situation where we asked them to pay it but we've split it in the past at times. It's just it's to the city's discretion. I will note they did say we would pay doc stamps. We legally can't pay doc stamps. I don't
ever argue with them. If somebody wants to put that in the contract, clerk's not going to take dock stamps from us and they're going to charge it back to them later. So, it doesn't really matter how it's worded. Statuto law says we don't pay doc stamps. But, traditionally, what we pay is our own attorney's fees and the cost to record the deed and then the
cost to record anything that's required to release leans on the property. But otherwise, we would have them provide their closing costs and title fees unless we wish to split as they proposed. What would that roughly be if we split
$1,200 give or take? I'd guess. So, we're splitting $1,200 or $1,200 would be our I I don't have the fee in front of me. It could be either way. I mean, it should it depends on how many title searches they want to run and how many times they've messed the file. I I would not feel in a case like this
with the price being paid, I don't believe it would be unreasonable to simply request that they pay all closing cost. I'll make that a motion. Second. All right. I have a motion and a second to play all all closing cost. Is that that's what I'm
Yeah. But my my question tax my my question Clay would what your your fees what would that be and that would cover your you said uh I'm assuming you're probably looking at about an hour and an hour and a half of my time tops and my hourly rate I build
the city and that would you said leans you you did a search for leans what they are they're doing all that literally this is just me looking Ultimately, what I'm going to be looking at for you that it says pay my attorney's fees, but frankly, I'm going
to look at the closing documents. I'm going to make sure the lead matches the legal description as long as the deed matches the legal description. That's about it. So, I mean, I'll review it, make sure Kobe's signing, he's not deeding city hall and half of our property over at it. But besides that,
um, unless there is something, the only caveat I'll give you to that is if they come back with some really large title problem that we need to cure, then it gets expensive on us. But your legal fees are going to be the least expensive part of that problem. Gotcha. And all we're voting on is to
they pay all the fees. Yeah, we're approving the contract and then but with the amendment that they pay all the closing cost. Do you have any problem with that, Amy? I'll wait till He don't want to sell nothing. Okay. All in favor say I.
Nay. I I I I I don't understand. Okay. I'll get it to him. We'll get it closed. Thank you very much. Thank you, sir. All
right. With that, you're done cubby. I am. All right, let's go to Miss Amy with any final comment. Yeah, I I volunteered at a uh Kana's golf outing recently and uh one of the vendors there was T-Mobile sell service
I'm sorry. Sorry about that. I apologize. No worries. Okay. So, I was saying I recently attended a Kana's uh golf outing. It was a fundraiser. Um, one of the vendors there was T-Mobile, and I recently heard many of the county
constitutionals and maybe the county themselves have uh had them come in, look at their cell bills and things and save some significant dollars. Do we have large cell phone bills and will you contact them? I can give you I don't know what the city does as far as cell
phones are concerned. I get I can get with Jesse. We use FirstNet, which is the government side of AT&T. That's who we currently use for all of our sales service. Have we done that in a while? I mean, would you entertain this if I gave you the lady's card that uh was there? They have a government unit.
I mean, we they can do an R for us. Yeah, we have to provide it to Jesse and see and then pull. I don't know if we have a contract with first person or not. We probably have a We do that, but yeah, I'm not sure. I just know the county I think switched and uh I know
the supervisor's office switched um and I think there might have been another one that's maybe in negotiations with them. I switched a few years ago. I didn't to T-Mobile. Uh this is the Can I pass this down or you want me to give it to the clerk?
Just give it to the clerk so we have it on the record. I think I have one other one. Here's um Lindsay Adams was the market manager for our area and they do I think the one I sent the first one uh Raphael was the uh
government person. So if you wouldn't mind I just didn't want to get involved in that. I thought maybe that's something you could handle or your staff. Y uh but I thought that's a good way to maybe look and see if we can save some money um on that. And then I just want to tell you to have a great vacation.
Oh yeah. Thank you, Lyn. Uh yeah, on the library project, uh Kobe and I had a conversation other day. You you said, and you might have said this a few minutes ago, my brain was somewhere else, but they discovered cedar shingles
under the the top layer, right? Which presents with no decking, right? Just one by fours. So you're leaning towards the decking and the underllayment possibly. So the um so the the bid already allocated for
removal of the roof and obviously replacement. They started taking it off. They ran into cedar shingles which we assume is the originals. So we're going to have try to save some of that. I think uh Caitlyn library wants to put some in there as a you know for history purposes. But yeah, we're going to need to deck the roof and so they provide us
a quote for that. We're looking at the funds that are available within the contract amount that they y'all authorized me for change on and so we're going through that now. So our our conversation about wind mitigation opportunity if they're having to take that and and deck
if and we had a conversation about if if we can get them to install hurricane clips on the rafters um that could save the city a fortune and insurance uh on that building. That's a good point. U so this is a perfect opportunity to do that.
Yeah, I'd highly recommend that one. That's a great point. Yeah, Dan. Well, I'm going to use this as an opportunity to learn something, so get ready. Um, how much, uh, I asked the question, um, how much do we charge now
to for hookups? And I got, um, $3,700 slight slightly north of that. Um, for 3/4 inch line, I don't know what it the difference is why we don't just have one standard size, but anyway, you could go up to 6,500 for what?
Water hookup. Water. Oh, water water hookup. Um, so is this correct? I got these numbers from you, Kobe. Are you all right? So,
um, so I'm wondering what type of when we agree with the developer uh on a price, well, they may not put it in until we we may may not have
to put it in until say three years later. So in that threeyear time, it's going to cost more money. So, anytime we ask a contractor to do something,
they have a series of change orders because things happen that weren't anticipated beyond their control and they ask for more money for the project. So, do we have any safeguard
instead of if they if we agree on a certain price today, if that price is say $1,000 more uh or $2,500 more three years from now, do do we, the city, have the same can we
do the same thing as like a change order that the developers do? Can we say, "Well, we agreed on this three years ago, but it's gone up since then, and this is on the developer." Is that uh is that something? Well, we kind of already have that
protection because the capacity fees we do now. We don't just charge an old tap fee. We charge a capacity fee and that's what cost what you're paying to actually connect our system. That's a true connection charge that is directly related to your development order. And a development order is only good for 12
months. So if they haven't made progress within 12 months, their development order expires, their development order expires, they got to come in and apply for a new one. And they apply for a new one. If our rates have gone up, they pay the new rates. They may get credit for the original rate and they have to pay
just the increased cost. But that would be how it works right now. So what's the time from the timeline from when the original agreement is met until it you said runs out? They have a 12-month window to proceed with their DO. If they don't make progress in 12
months, it's dormant. The DO's expired. Okay. Same way with building permits. I think we're actually at 6 plus six on buildings. We collect in advance. We collect approve the DO. We collect, they have to pay in full between the date they make application for the DO and the date we issue the DO.
They don't get a deal if they don't pay in full. So, so even though they might not do it in the next 12 months, we still have their money in hand. Correct. We put that into in reserves. That's the capacity fee that part of it goes to reserves, part of it goes to operating.
Okay. So, we do the 2575. That's what that's for. That's exactly what that applies to. Clay, can you um there's a there's a business statement out there uh they teach that said cost is not determined by what things cost.
Cost is determined by what the market would bear. So if we uh our competition is the wells and septic tanks. So are we just slightly below that to
give the encouragement to go with us and not put in a well or septic tank? That's well first off if sewer is available you're required to connect that. So you don't have the option to choose to opt out to a septic tank in terms of well we can insist on I mean we have a little
different situation with water but I think it depends on what you're trying to put in. Okay. So hypothetically speaking let's just say Twin Lakes Drive. The people that aren't hooked up to sewer that have septic tanks are going
to be required to hook up to septic to sewer you mean? Yes sir. To to sewer. Yeah. when it's available. Yes, sir. State statute. Okay. So, before the new road is paved, it would behoove us to go ahead and do that
instead of tearing up a new road. They've already been out. They've staff started cameraing the lines like we talked about. They've started camera lines. They're going to they're going to see go over that uh internally and with engineers prior to repaving the road. And we've got how many people on that road that aren't hooked up to sewer?
We don't know yet. That was Didn't we say 14? What did we say was There was a list. There was a list of 16 now 17. Uh but there are various locations around the city. Not just on that road. Not just on that road. Staff's going to go and they're going to camera that line on that road to determine how many are not hooked up.
Okay. And um from and any repairs need to be made prior to So would it um is there a reason why we only do 30-day leases at the airport? I'm not aware we do a 30-day lease. It's
a It's either a month to month or a year. Uh we have one long-term lease, but all leases are either monthtomonth or they are one year at a time. Okay. Um, sometimes when you have longer leases,
uh, like if you lease for you get a 5-year lease, a 60-month lease, um, you can get the last month, the the 60th month free, and that would be an incentive. Um, is that anything that, uh, we might want to consider?
We've, uh, Mr. Mr. Kent's reached out to some of the tenants in the box hangers, corporate hangers about long-term leases and and looking to restructure those in terms of maintenance. Um, I don't think we should look into that for T- hangers because it is community building. Uh, it just gets trickier that way. Um, but I
don't business perspective, I don't know why we would give anybody a month free, but that's just me. My person I mean every I thought the reason we were putting them in was everybody was wanting them like they're like a commodity right now, a hot thing. So I wouldn't just give away our money when we need it more than
they don't sit open when they come available. You have a list of over 45 like a wait list. Yeah, we got a weight list of 45. And again, as I was going back through some of the old documents from 2020, um there was a note in one of the meeting minutes
about us transferring over 114,000 from the general fund to the airport. And we're no longer doing that because the councils have consistently voted to raise the rates out there because again we were practically giving it away. Okay. And we're no longer we're no longer
having to make those transfers. Well, none of this is none of this is controversial. This is just I'm trying to learn things at the at these meetings at this opportunity. Um so the last thing is real easy. A
citizen asked me, they said they were trying to learn how to navigate the city website and stuff like that and noticed that the uh address for city hall is still the old building down there. Is that true or think? No, I pulled it up the other day
and it was this one. It was showing this one. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, then that's all I got. All right. None, sir. All righty. Well, we'll call this meeting journal
motion