okay cool see you thanks have a good night guys you too what you're leaving me yes all right it is 50:3 on the 6th of February we're bringing the beautification and tree board meeting to order uh the first thing is the invocation and the Pledge of Allegiance which I'm very glad that
we're adding to our agenda so everybody would please stand and just for today I'll lead um that's okay dear heavly father thank you for the opportunity to come together thank you for the opportunity to serve our city I ask you to give each of us guidance and Direction and wisdom as we make uh as we make decisions for de ex Springs in your precious name we pray amen amen amen I pledge Al to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all so the second item is approval of minutes hopefully you all have had a chance to look that over and if you have any corrections or a motion to approve
a motion to approve do have a second second okay all in favor I I I okay motion passes unanimously uh the next thing is the tree donation policy discussion I brought this up because I realized in my own effort to do a tree donation that we had individuals in the policy and their
names um and one of whom is no longer with us and that's Andrea Gerard so I wanted to discuss what uh what your recommendation would be if we wanted to just have Public Works be the contact point I had discussed with uh Kobe a little bit and that was kind of what we were thinking unless something has changed on your end Kobe no yeah we'll just make it generic uh contact Public Works
um would there be a particular email that we would want to include I mean it looks like the PW admin is on there yeah we will leave we can leave the uh PW admin email okay um and then we'll just eliminate the language and phone numbers for we'll just update it make it the city's generic phone number and then Public Works is direct one of their direct lines and then uh have that PW admin email we'll probably add a second uh just a backup
M okay is that good all right is that good with you guys to do that so that we have a little more clarity on that um and the other thing I just wanted to update you on um to with the tree donation policy um I had reached out to three of the funeral homes that was as far as i' gotten um the um I did not I reached out a couple of times to Clary Glenn I did not hear back um the McDonald Family Funeral Home they would
be very interested in having a link or something where somebody could donate locally um and then uh Davis Watkins said that they possibly would they because they're advertising with someone else right now they want to make sure that it wasn't um in conflict with whatever policy it is for them so he was going to get back with me uh but my question for you Kobe would be where would we want to direct that
link or is from the funeral home to the city for that what email or link Direction I'm not a tech person so this is beyond me so say again tell me what it is again you so we wanted to have the option for someone because all of these funeral homes advertise donating a tree but they go to some forest in the middle of the who knows where so being able kind of tie that in with the city and have them
donate something here instead of there and have a local link so someone could be uh notified they want to do it basically yes um we can I get with Jesse we can probably figure we can figure something out okay um oh or you saying you want a page link they can put on their website whever it is when they click on it takes them to the specific section of the city
that could work too okay just something to link them together and I I know there will be more details of you know um websites and obviously coordination with the with any funeral home that wants to participate but I I just wanted to get this on somebody's radar where maybe staff could reach out like I said I know McDonald Family Funeral Home is definitely on board and I'm waiting to hear from Davis I did not get a chance to reach out to
Park so they would send a email to the city saying they want to plant a tree somewhere on city property just have a contact with the city I don't know if it would be an email but you know on the way it's currently set up you just go on there you click it you say here's who I wanted in honor of and it's done but that may be something that we can just have a link that goes to our website where you can do a tree donation you probably um think in my head like Foot Works has a work order link like a CST
going you put up I it's not a complaint box but it's complaints comments work like that so they could probably go on there and just do that um okay we can link that that'll take them directly to it they can put in there that the request is a tree donation and then it will get sent to the appropriate Department okay do that okay just or even if and if I can push my luck here if we could have a tab on the the city website where we could actually advertise this and have people put all
their information here's the person here's the yes we do want a plaque um who it's I don't know and have like a whole thing and be able to like actually advertise it you think that would be possible yeah anything and then we could and then we could just have that link not just for the funeral homes but for anybody yeah and it have to be on the approved list because I just noticed that we got to take Laurel all call
mam councilman didn't like yes I might take uh is there something else on there yougood maybe unless you want to watch it D dog yeah we struggle with Dogwood we had take most all hundreds of them down in the city they just I would love to tell you I could get it to make it live yeah I ain't seen one that's Happy in the middle of the woods that's about it the old-timers will tell you they used to grow up yeah they did um if you want to take any off if you want to make a motion for any of those and then we
can vote on it and official since make a motion with the live o i mean the Laurel Oak andwood yeah trees yeah can I get a second second yeah okay any discussion on that any other um trees or anything else that we would want to add to it or yeah down Road either add to the list or remove from the
list okay go I think that should be fine okay okay then all in favor I I I I okay passes unanimously okay uh plants on South 10th Street uh the quote ratification uh there is an attachment here and Kobe I'm going to defer to you on this one all I need you to do is just make a motion to approve the quote uh from and the purchase from Advanced Nursery Growers
we've already like said we talked to our last meeting that's one you want to go with so we've already put the PO and I've already approved it okay all right so you need a motion to just motion to uh ratify the purchase from Advanced Nursery growers okay motion second second second okay all in favor I I I you I I you pass unanimously uh the next on our list is the dog park
update okay before we move on is there can we have more discussion about that sure because we don't have much time I mean we're supposed to plan the end of this month so that should be and I talked to Beverly today and she's got everything so she's want to know she's been holding them for a while because actually she called the day after our last meeting and I thought that we had already I thought it was approved to purchase the next week so she went ahead and ordered and uh she called me back anyhow doesn't matter she has them and she wants to know we're getting them so
I told her after tonight I would have an answer okay so do we want to get it sometime where you know we can we're going to be there right with City or how's this working yeah I mean we're gonna need to someone's going need to be there or tell us where you want what right yeah no I mean I'm we just need to plan a work day and I think any of us that can be there need to be there I'll bring that big round bale pine straw yeah we're going to need the we're going to need the pine straw but there's also some prep work like um the grass has to
be all dug out first that in itself if I don't know if that's something that if that could get done or because that'll be that's a day's work that's a day's work unless you have before we had Tony and Tony said there was a it lifts grass you know there's a a piece of equipment that you could get hand thing yeah aod remover so I don't know otherwise it's just shovel did he have a connection for that still yeah it help us um I'm not sure I
don't know if the city has any like a mini one of those miniature buckets Co you know you know those Min they just got a little bucket on the front like a scoop on the front I they may I to with small where they can just skim off like the top three four Ines um I know that the farmers market and the tractor plate which we have thousands of people that come for that is March 15 so ideally I would like for this to be done before before then uh main Street's doing a
clean up on the 6th we're doing U Main Street has um given, 1500 for the uh pots downtown they all new plants and we're trying to mimic what's going so we're doing the Rosemary and you know trying to with some color can we just can we just have that as our next meeting and just start early the first Thursday in March you mean like a work day just have that our meeting but it had to start early like 1 o'clock or two o' could start at 5 I mean an
idea tight in but we'd have to do the prep work before yeah as long as the prep was done before we all be there when actual planning's done so we know that would work for me I'll be back yeah I mean that's just a thought Mike you had a good idea well you prayed for w you prayed for wisdom I did anyway but we I mean that works for me um as long as we can get we'll have to coordinate with them so what what is that date what date is that uh it's the
6th I think 4th uh March 4th Yeah March 6 would I'm sorry I'm thinking I got my meetings yeah we're here Thursday so um we'll have to have Rafael send out a notice we we'll figure something out he'll need to send a notice out um you want have a regular meeting we'll call it'll be something else I'll find out it a workshop or work T we have to be publicly noticed y together um we got
start we'll do it on the sixth and then I'll get with staff about prior to that get everything out of it but first I need to ver we need to make sure what is where is this stuff going um on both sides of the corner well on the northeast and Northwest corners of Baldwin and South tent okay Michael can you bring up the map that take us to 10th Street yes sir one thank you so was it three areas or two areas three three are three I just want to
make sure we ripping it up we have to get the S prep done at least a week before that I guess all vegetation removed no you're good you're good just uh go back go to um basically Main
Street Fitness yeah okay yeah zoom in there okay turn around keep going I go all the way to the end of the street right there where it runs in the all one right there
that's good okay so is it that the corner the jet out yep so the corner where the fire hydrant is go to your right M you don't gota move just kind of scroll pull over so we can see yep the one with a power pole on it the one with the power pole and then we're going all the way down in front of Tes okay keep pulling Michael keep going around that way yep keep on going and it goes all the way down to that strip okay just
making sure and then aren't we doing this strip here I thought we did yeah that strip as well so from from the tree back to the intersection just on the one just on this side of on road side and we're gonna try to save that tree the plan on that other one there's a tree right there so those two little pieces y yep yes and yeah I don't think we're doing anything to the
yeah make sure they Dam system okay lot there and then we would need to have good soil ready
bags I would say bags are would could we just have some delivered that's a lot of soil right a dump trailer not a not a dump truck but I was just you know they'll deliver good soil from top soil from know what do you think a lot of what we're what we're using doesn't really require a lot of rich I mean we could probably get by with um doing some bags and just putting some
in the holes whenever we dig it just to give them a boost okay that's fine that's why we got you guys are the experts take that so bad soil that's why we pick them plants yeah okay but uh but I would doing it if I was doing it I would definitely have some bags with with some nutrients just for going in the ground yeah so what time do you want to start on the 6th probably going to start by two we're going to have more longer daylight then but
one yeah I would start in the morning i' 9:00 yeah still have our regular meeting at 5 is what you're saying well we can still make it our regular meeting yeah just won't do it at 5 we always have a discussion with the recorder like we did before right I said we do a workshop we do it that morning um do we need a I don't know there's always good to have a meeting we just tie
that yeah maybe we can just start with the meeting and then just keep it short and address anything that needs a vote and then we can get to work how's that what you thinking nine 10 not 10 nine yeah I'm thinking 8:30 or 9 so we're not it's going to be warm by that time and I think we need a backup day if weather doesn't cooperate so maybe that's
Saturday no you can't do Saturdays um maybe that Friday actually that Saturday because the defac I'm I've got nice little coverage so I could work the 8 so I could I could do it that fall on Saturday okay if you know if we needed a back up but Saturday we wouldn't have employees oh that's right all right so Friday yeah do they work Fridays limited um main count off
Frid would it be too I know we're trying to do our meeting but could we could we move this up to the 27th I just can't be here which is fine no well I don't I don't want to do that we we'll keep it the fourth prep work before yeah we got to do the prep before that okay stuff clear all right well hopefully the weather will just be marvelous it'll be fine yeah yeah okay all right so we'll have the um planting
day set for let's say 9:00 a.m. we'll have a meeting and we'll do it on site take care of any business that we have to and then we'll immediately go into planting so we'll have um that afterwards and then our backup day will be Friday the what is that the 7th okay yeah does that sound good you guys yeah okay um and then for me to
tell Beverly uh when would the city take care of picking those plants up she I mean I had to follow Scott but typically when they call and tell us where they we'll go get them so okay and then what about the soil the back I've got load here I mean he'll have to go and take a look at see how many thingss it'll be and you'll just have to put a PO lows and we'll take it them okay so they'll pick the plants up and just take them out to the yard yeah we'll just keep them with us and when the time comes they bring in be
water well you said when they're ready what they are ready so should I call her and just tell her that someone will be in touch and meet closer to the six no I mean she needs to reach out to the city and tell us when we come get them oh or I mean but where would we store them we're gonna have to keep them at P works so we gonna go get them like tomorrow and they're gon to be at P works or we leave them there and go get them about four yeah I just um the concern is are they going to live water C AEK because that's a different kind of
job than what they're used to doing yeah what are your thoughts I mean I just have to ask Scott I'll just see if we if we've done that before where we put them at stuff like that and see um I'll try to find out because I could ask her if she would just mind because she's taking care of them right now you know if she would just keep them until like maybe the latter part of the February and that maybe we pick them up like
Thursday or you could you know have her call the latter part of February I like that idea yeah just so we know that they're yeah they're being tended to and then even if she Ed them good that day and we got them they they'd be fine till the next week you know will there be water is there water available there at that corner because we want a water today we pl I'll check I don't know how the second I don't think there's any irrigation there um but again when staff's going be out we can we have we have an ability to bring or
could someone hook up to that fire hydrant right there we could we can get water okay there's a way I was wondering that yeah whatever okay F across the all right thank you for stopping me before we moved off of that um anything else we need to talk about that planting day or anything else to prep for it
okay all right moving on uh number five dog park update uh we do have did we get it I didn't see it in the package the Rafel may not have had it um but anyway I did I thought we deiminated it um anyway there so looking at it um off the the basic design of what we all
talked about here and over there at the behind the Armory to go back here see as a reminder staff was looking at cost of doing either or yeah so uh let's see north of the PD so that's obviously right here which would be let's see here so for the this price would include the chain link portion of northop PD and
it would be the rod iron along 90 M back up yeah which included basically two areas a small dog and large large dog area uh three gates one to get in one to get into each of the areas rod iron along the 90 area and then you had the parking lot the cost to do that one based off the
estimates we have gotten from a couple companies was $33,860 a little further that's not cleared so this is not including the cost to go in and clear or what it would take but just to fence in the front portion and the do that work would be
$2,790 and the entire lot which isn't that a little bit bigger is $ 24415 but again we haven't that was just the fence cost I think he's still working on getting obviously be it would have to be S it had things have to be done in there dirt work but yeah that's just fence so I'm still favoring this because I think that it can be more impactful I'm sor sorry excuse me let me hold on a second make sure I'm reading
this right okay please the two quotes for S are the same amount however one is for rolls one is for pallets okay that includes s okay I'm sorry so four that over there it includes side but they do not um install so we would have to install that does include side for I'm sure yeah obviously the fence Che because you're not doing right iron over there it's all yeah right cost more what does it say what kind of s it is uh
let's see centipede is what on here pallet actually one of the worst options for that area but okay berm i' say over there yeah Bermuda is about the only thing I can think of Bermuda will take traffic Sports field but you know a batter and it takes more fertilizer Thana I would think over there
would be over not like traffic too either and then I don't know like there's no really good option but well I'd still say maybe Bermuda if you could get you yeah but here we don't need grass it's already already yeah and again I but you have to water it a lot when you first put it in
yeah that's see I just like this because I think it could be a really beautiful addition right it's not just functional to you know have somewhere to put dogs I think it would make for a really nice entry point um and then something else I know we're we're comparing Apples to Apples and I'm throwing an orange in the works but um Eli and I think it's last name is Snip uh with North Northwest Florida um Outdoors he had said that he would be
willing to volunteer time and to do fencing basically at cost and be very transparent with whatever quote he gave um so that everyone would understand that it was you know volunteering basically um so the the these quotes were not from him so I know we're comparing those two but I think we'll do better on pricing um and I know there will be a process for that but um I just wanted to point that out that
fence is going to have to be narrow otherwise there going to be a lot of people hitting the brakes on the road out there dog squeeze through I'm just Jing it's gonna have to really be narrow you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying a lot of traffic through but well they have they have something called Puppy pickets on the bottom so it's little yeah not you know the big ones yeah
so uh that said I know I already gave my opinion but I think this also has shade trees well established yeah that's true SC I guess I yeah work yes okay I think we're all on the same page Kobe what should we do next is there anything uh other than because again this is just the fencing so it's just the gates and stuff over here there anything else that needs to be considered um over here terms of cost
um we just want to make sure water right I would say a trash can you don't get two pet yeah waste containers it's going to be a mess if you sign money say at least, 1500 per sign M mhm probably more than that but I
would say at least that much right obviously the parking yeah lighting is one um parks in the city our clo our time is Dust to Dawn so typically um our Parks don't have lights unless they're like the tennis court or something like that um so lighting would be a fairly large expense if you're going to if the intention is leave past
dark the summer don't get about just have hour well what would you think about saying we don't except for the parking area I think we would want to make sure that was well lit so if they're in there and they get there you know right at dark that they can safely sunrise and sunset but that changes you know it does but I'm but I'm thinking you know we can just say it's just like every other Park and then unless somebody really asks if it becomes a real need because I
don't if that's expensive I don't know that that's there's no existing poles so we have to have electrical Rand either above or under um there's no poles all yeah so it be otherwise you'd have to have like 43 like seven to 4:30 because about 4:30 you know it gets dark in the shortest day you either got a sunrise sunset or 7 4:30 but then in the summer time three more hours and that's why we
do Dust to Dawn so because of the time changes so so typically all parts close at uh when it gets dark and then staff will either close them or the P mostly the PD as they come through at night time they will close them I like that I'm good with that have it you guys that's fine okay is there the possibility of doing the parking area or is that do what the parking area yes so that's something um it's there we're going to need to um I wouldn't I
wouldn't expect you do anything tonight I think just it was just some information I go back and look because I mean the parking is gonna have to one it's GNA be lighting two we're gonna have to make sure that it's Ada and everything else but want make sure just 33,000 get out some baseline fence we'll have to go back and look at the parking and see if that's going to have any improvements we need to have striping or striping we can do in the house um most I mean that type stuff but we'll have to get looked at from again an ADA and just a compliant standpoint there got be
anything done to it um we do want to make sure we have some seating okay y yeah benches are expensive I think that could be something that we could try to get people to honor or memorialize somebody and and donate or a company I think Main Street had some that were
about 1500 weren't they for the benches yeah and if you ordered like five at a time I think the price went down so maybe it could be that go in if there's any you know restroom come in you City Hall you know for people they have to hold it till they get done their do very much have a pretty pointed body out
there what else do we need to talk about on the dog park anything else Kobe I think that's it um we we'll start looking at some of this other stuff and running back okay all right anybody else have anything on that before we move on okay uh let's go to the mural on 90 is this the one that you were looking at Kobe on the bottom yeah the short one
the smaller one again at this point we're going to we're going to pressure wash it it's just if we won't put something on it or not it's up to y'all you tell me what it is you want to see on it what your thoughts are be pain I was trying to brainstorm of anything that would look really good there and not be distracting I could I mean it's it's such a low um do we know the measurement from top to bottom that we have uh I don't no we haven't two or three tall yeah it's probably
three feet tall the highest I do like the idea of having something like the Walton Braves on there something to honor our sports teams no no yeah I'm I'm I definitely want to see W Brave somewhere downtown that would be good because a lot of people pass there have you know the writing and then have the actual Brave
and if the is that state yeah we have we have to send it to them we have to approve it yeah because there's something about the words right so we could always do even the Indian head with the spear and the blue and white if they aren't happy with words yeah Mas yeah they seem should the rep seem to think that defenc Springs because it was going to have pictures and stuff in it that it would be more or maybe less distracting that was the
impression that I got so maybe that's the same thing I don't know so we actually have to come up with something for them to approve being home of the Braves well I just well I just need tell me what you want to put on I to have somebody draw it up or do something and then we'll take it to them I would say uh you know home of the Braves with the the actual Brave or Walton Braves right I agree either one I think either one it I think it depends on how
much room you have I know it's pretty long isn't it so we got room for home it's pretty it's pretty lengthy it could even be yeah home of the Walton bra yeah I like I like that yeah I like put wton in there it's not too long okay let's try for home of the Walton Braves and see if we can fit that on there Well what we'll do is we'll try to get that back by the next one I could
see it um I'm just going through my head I mean the city council will probably have to approve it at some point probably gonna need probably take two or three renderings you approve and then send to the state that way when the state if they do approve we can move forward if they don't approve then we're not going doing this all over again multiple times okay okay okay are we good to move
on uh let's go to the medians on 90 West and yes did you guys have any other thoughts on suggestions for what we want to put there do we want to mimic what we've done downtown do we want to do something else do we want to keep the crpe myrtles I think we need to keep at least the ones that are healthy the great myrtles should be fine I think those they just need some love and were there big uh what was it
the Indian hawthorns out there was that what else was there some of them looked really good some of them were awful crummy yeah yeah they just got done planting something I went through town today they're out put pine straw around some new bushes I don't know what you know what kind of bushes those were I'm not sure they don't have any leaves on them they're about four foot tall and they were out there planting and put p on them today just down past down there what do you need from us Kobe on
this to some action yeah I just need what I want to do there say keep the keep the CRP mles that look good yet have to do some good CR just out there hacking at yeah there needs to be somebody not crep murdering right and then I justess had something showy right something that it's more your m whenever the state came in and did 331
because that was State I mean that all looked really good when they put it in is it all still pretty good they change it every few years they tore off B trees well right but whenever they did that um that's it still hasn't been changed since Laura pulum be just too difficult to manage it might be okay um yeah I mean lower pedal might be okay
that's one that might might could last in there I know it grows fast but at least it's it's got good color and it is too yeah exactly and it can take I mean it can take what you throw at it pretty once while you might have to put yeah do we want to do some grasses um that would take a little maintenance so it would have to be you know cut back in the winter um that's do does that right no so we
maintain these that's why we can make changes to it okay yeah yeah but it's really easy I mean you just cut them back just it's I'm not gonna say no I'm just saying yeah yeah yeah um it's a possibility some stuff you PR though it's more intricate but that is just it's just ch yeah I like grasses you yeah I like grasses I think it's a good filler and it makes it interesting sure mainten
most time did we have one or two grasses and this I think we had two we had muie and pahache pahache I can't remember if it was th or what maybe go with those two same yeah yeah I'd be good that get a little color a yes what else could we put that would have some color that wouldn't get too big get ratty I mean could we do like some
sunflowers or not sorry uh the Susans oh black eyed Susans those would I mean if if anything that would probably be the the most likely option in my mind they do they do I mean the pedals fall off after a while and they do start looking a little ratty but you might when do they bloom pretty much all the time time unless you get a cold snap like we had I'll die back but
um it's it's pretty constant seems like I just trying to think of something that would be right and deadheading once in a great while wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for him but um they're if you're going to have something like that that's one of the less color pretty fast what about something that would have some chartreuse like that really bright [Music] green um well if you don't get well there's that Sunshine
lustrum yeah I'm not sure that's tough enough to stand in the middle of the median like that I that's what I was thinking but um I mean and it's not really chartreuse but it got me to thinking about it yeah no I hear you I'm I'm trying to think of anything else that I mean Beauty Berry is kind of but that's a little more rough looking you know it doesn't stay in control sometimes but that's a little bit of that light green and then you get the purple in the winter
um we can that right we don't have toci the plant list tonight well we we need to how's that being funded the city's just funding that yeah because we want to get these ordered and get them in the ground this spring so about it back on the next one think about it we bring back to the next one if we see how these do down here that might help to make a decision
could we would it make sense to just go ahead and have them remove the junky plants that are there that don't look good or don't aren't healthy I'd rather not I'd rather not just because exposed soil and run off into the into the r away rather not just from that per okay
I drive by all right do we want to do that and have a list for our next meeting when we come to the planting day and we can think at it and see what it looks like out there have time to drive by and see okay all right we'll do that then okay I got oh I got something real quick hold on about this about me no but before yeah
yeah so um citizen comments okay um and then anything else I talk to Rafael because I got to get the plaque for Arbor Day I had ordered yet because I I send an email to Rafael about do we have to get it approved I called Glenco memorials up there on Tu and they've raised their prices course it's going to be anywhere between 1225 and 150 they use leftover stone for all our
plaques so he thought I might have to make a motion how that would be paid for so I didn't order it yet we're basically going to just say Arbor Day 2024 25 25 not all Oak we could skip the scientific name the scientific name for that is just corcus not all again but we've been put scientific name then unless be consistent but it's going to be around could be around $150 so I didn't order it till we thought we thought we might have to make a motion or is it coming out of the tree board or
is it coming out of the city and you know be around 150 bucks I'm okay if it comes out if it needs to when does when is when is AR day again April we already planned it we already I thought you I didn't order the pl yet because just AR 25 you know did you want to put planning for any more we add you know but if we just put we'll know what it's for right you just put Arbor Day 2025 the oak or you want to say
planted for Arbor Day we just say yeah we'll know they'll know just to to be consistent because I think this is I think it's the first year y we've ever really kind of did formal buying for y'all through a budget for y'all onl own so um we'll just put on the next agenda purchase of AR day plaque you'll just bring back something and like what you want to look like in terms of like yall prove it give a SC to send that to no just bring it with you to the meeting you all approve that
and then we'll have we'll put Po in and take care of it it's gonna be call I think that's the best especially moving forward if y'all continue to have money in the line Island budget to do these things I think it's good to start bring them through yall okay sounds good to me I mean and I mean we know what it wants to be but city council has to approve it well no we have to have it on the agenda as an item to vote on we can't vote on without it being an agenda item yeah okay I sent him an email earlier
but I guess that's fine so I'm gonna go ahead and order I just come to you pay for it might take her two to three weeks to do it yes but we're GNA vote on this at the next meeting don't order it yeah have to wait you're gonna have to wait we cannot we cannot uh solicit items or uh understand encumber a purchase until we have a purchase order approved now we do one for shiaka
if I help shiaka they'll just Garden Club or shiaka will just pay for the plaque if they want help doing something during regular shiaka I we can help you know because in the past that's when we did it that's when we did it yeah this is yeah they'll P for okay anybody have anything else to add all right all right and I'll see you guys next month and we'll call this
meeting adjourned it is off I don't know what time it is