yeah we got a new egg agent from here Monday night Did you get a thing in the Yes You going to be able to get i'm going to try I'm North Beat's coming We got this new pretty sharp She's four field trips at
the farm next week Monday through Thursday It's in Chris View or here No it's here Okay I can probably make it It's here Six o'clock If I send you a link to something can you broadcast it i can
email it to Jessica Jess All right Yeah My glasses Not getting recorded yet are we yeah we're waiting Yeah they have it So I sold summer I sold the three jabs
summer Yeah it all went to the IRS today Sad Don't even start a 401k You take it out You got to pay tax One of those not being I'm not picking it up Thank you so much Absolutely Must have probably get a penalty Yeah that I took way too much
Now now stock market just crashed today Bad There he is a long drive I said you'd be here I told you it already I haven't No because I'm tech challenged Okay I'm downloading it
but I don't know where it's going Story of my life My tech challenges I got Facebook I sent something out once and my daughter called me and screamed at me She said "You sent that to the whole world You didn't send it just to friends or something." She said "Don't you let me know if you want to post
something." What's uh Simey's email address city it's a video The audio will not work It's okay It's okay Yeah it'll be fine Yeah it'll it'll be okay What's your
what's your email admin assist Thank you You're welcome Michael just let us know when you're ready We ready okay We will bring this beautifification and tree board meeting uh to order and
it's 502 on April 3rd 2025 [Music] And um Mike would you mind leading us in our invitation stand Ask you if that was okay All right Well heavenly father I thank you to stay in all your blessings Lord we ask that
you be with us tonight as we make decisions about making our city more beautiful Lord Lord we owe everything to you The things we say in your name Amen Amen Then the pledge of allegiance I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all So the first item for the second item is the approval of the minutes And I do see
one thing bound approval of Arbor Day plaque That should be 150 Okay It says it says $50 Okay All right Motion be approved Do I hear a second i'll second Okay All
in favor i I motion passes unanimously So old business Uh I I wanted to talk about the discussion or excuse me the remaining landscaping and upkeep for the downtown area And I had uh talked with or emailed with Kobe to
find out what we had left in our budget We're right under eight 8,000 um right under $8,000 left in our budget for the fiscal year which uh ends in September Is that right october We want to try to stop spending We won't I won't say stop
No it is fine Okay The fiscal year ends September 30th Okay All right So we've got some money left Um I don't know if this is where we want to put it or if we want to talk about some other things but I wanted to bounce that off of you guys
and see what you thought about our remaining funds And Kobe we are of course open to your suggestions And I know we've got a few other things It doesn't roll over right on the on the agenda that No I mean we spend it or
lose it In reality reality you could Yes But we won't So next year we'll reset it The reason for that is because it's not um obviously the city's revenues and expenses vary based on what we budgeted what taxes were paid weren't paid so forth so on So no we'll just reset next year at whatever amount that y'all
recommend the councils give y'all and they either will or they won't And you're doing the budget right now right uh we have the city council have their first budget workshop uh April 28th at 3:00 So what I'm going to I'm going to ask her to do something later today to
think about y'all's next meeting in May Let's bring start talking about what it is y'all want to do next year Talk about a little bit and see what what money are going to ask for We're requesting it Yeah And so the next workshop which probably be sometime in June or early July then I'll bring those forth to them
and what you're looking for Go ahead I know what you're going to say or I think I do Okay Well no I had asked to be on the agenda and Raphael said it was going to be here and I don't see it Um talking about the landscaping So it's it's sort of in the same um thing uh working with Main Street and and I
really have a proposal to get this done I I would like to see this done right away and we've gotten a lot of feedback There's plenty of people that want to pay for the areas to get done I mean several um
but it it's I would like to propose and I and I've talked with Main Street that we um work together uh and that I would like the city to have like a set part in it and that being you know helping
install and and keep up if Main Street will go and find the sponsors for each one and take that part of Um but so there's there's some things like if you walk down there the trees where the oak trees are there's so much right
now that could just be done in immediately And I would just say clean out and pine straw if you did that 100% All we're talking about $1,000 would change the downtown right away Um and so what I would what I would definitely
recommend is moving forward looking back on what and we learned that was a learning experience whenever we installed that corner Um I really think we should have used landscape fabric uh just because it's it's it's going to be easier on the city You know it's a little bit of uh cost right away but
it's maintaining and we want to keep it neat Um but what I what I would like to see from the city is even if it's you know maybe Kobe this is too much I I don't know I mean because I know yard spread
thin but even if it was twice a month um that we get four hours downtown And what I mean is going through like whoever's doing the city hall here like the sidewalks are edged There's stuff like that that's just being missed I have
pictures of downtown like in the palm trees where people are sticking trash and you can tell it's been going on for a while Like there's underwear and like I mean it's good downtown I mean right downtown and and it's been there So if there was a sweep where twice a month if
the even if it was the four guys that helped you know but I think it needs to be the same guys the guys that somebody that we can meet with and say this is what we would like it to look you know So whenever we installed that corner like let's go ahead and have the weed eaters and edge it cuz I would have liked for it to be done like a
landscaping job you know Um we put so much into it but the pine straw on the other side never got installed It's supposed to go Yeah Right We talked to Nick again fitness center He said he's going to do it We've already bought it We've already bought it So should we put
it in the city or I don't know where we are with Okay because Nick the owner of the gym had reached out said he would and said that you know he would do it Um so I just didn't know if that's who you're talking about I never heard from him So okay I talked to him a week ago He said
you know he's busy So I don't know if he's right Well if if the city did it that's great I want to tell him if the city does it because I'm going to go into the fitness and tell him don't worry about it or something Right Um well he'll see it whenever it's finished But um no I would just like to if if the
city's willing to work with Main Street and let Main Street take and roll with it And also you know like I think it can move a little bit quicker because I understand there's so much red tape which has to be I'm not that's you know the way but like right now
um the funeral home the people that own the funeral home um McDonald's Yeah Like they're like "We're ready What can we sponsor what can we do you know and so we know that that median will cost $1,000 And that's the same way that it worked with um Kelly from uh Ironing
Grape and so we can go and pick it up and I don't mind volunteering you know and and doing that end of it But um I think if the city could help us clean it up and then do the landscape fabric and the pine straw So question When you say
um turning it so that they'll keep it up and then turn it over to the sponsor do you mean for the sponsor to keep it up or No that's what I want That's what I would like to see this that's the reason I'm saying like if if we could get two days a month four hours each sweep
through to sweep through and you know and and somebody that like I said whoever's doing here you can tell has a landscaping like they know what needs to be done Um the I know that we talked but the prep work you know moving forward Um
it'd be nice if it was the same guys because they would learn what needs to be done Like whenever we got there you know the prep work wasn't there was still lots of grass and there was you know but if we can come in there and put it in and it's all prepped and ready to go I think that it'll just be smoother
and the upkeep's going to be a lot better you know Well and I knowing that our budget is coming up um and we've still got some money left in there and we have gotten such good feedback I felt like if we finished that out we would
have a better chance of having a larger budget next year by saying "Look look what we did with 10,000 give us 20 right?" Or some such number That compliment million just that little corner we done right even though it's not done And I agree I love the idea of
just putting pine straw where you know that up against the you know train tracks over on that side and just cleaning cleaning it up and making it look neat and uniform There's one thing that we would have to face and I don't really know how to do this is it needs so much weed eating down there that with
the cars and you know of course Sunday afternoon would be the best day you worry about cars getting you know because I was just there there's so many I don't know when the best time is or how early that could be done but uh the downtown area just just a good weed
eating and then a spray routine you know i mean you can do a lot with spray If you ever got it under control then it wouldn't be as hard but it gonna be harder to get it into Well people are sticking stuff in because I was at the fitness center today and there was a guy my age probably had something wrong He
was taking paper out of the dumpster and walking around sticking it up in trees and stuff Yeah something something's going on there Yeah he's dumpster diamond It was really strange but I know that's how the underwear shows up I don't know That's really strange Yeah No
it's just it's just people are just sticking all different stuff You tell it's been going on It's from the top to the bottom It's the palm trees are across from Iron and Grape Yeah Yeah But like you said it just a couple times a month to just make a sweep to maybe only spending 30 minutes just to pick up the
trash You mean yeah No I think it'd be more than 30 minutes Well you got to weed But don't businesses they'll pick up trash right out front for business don't they i think they do right out in front I know Soo comes out with a blower and blows all that area off you know I think I haven't checked out in front of
her I think most of the merchants take pride in in what's happening out in their shops But you're saying also we edge you know Yeah Yeah that sort of thing We eat edge Um yeah What a half in half a day four hours each time I think something like
that Yeah I mean of course the first initial cleanup is going to take longer but once it's done then the maintenance and pine style you probably got to do it twice a year Yeah Once one time ain't going to last all year It breaks down naturally
but it's not But I'm sure the city can get a break just like a landscaper would because there's a big break for commercial landscapers on the Vine Shaw Yeah I think it's a good idea to finish up what we started and uh make the project complete and then have it upkept
I think that's a very good plan Well it's been purchased so uh the pine straw So now I it's just a matter of putting it down and and take it through the the rest of the downtown Oh I'm sorry I thought you meant just finishing that corner Well I meant that end That too and and finishing out the whole downtown
Well I don't think um 8,000 will finish that will it i mean should pine straw will Oh well pine straw Yes Yes But I mean I think we could at least get a couple of blocks right um maybe not the whole entire
thing And uh Kelly and and uh Todd you did their little corner there So I think it would go a long way Yeah And Main Street is has uh stuff to do another one too So that's good And I would certainly be a sponsor
Yeah So um something else though in this same discussion that I don't see on here Raphael had emailed us about um Sor reaching out Um it is I ask put
it Thank you Oh okay Yeah All right So that's I I guess it's new business but it's in the same discussion of how Yes I I you know because that
corner and this is my take on that So you have the two that are brick in the center downtown like where we just did the flower pots right so those two are brick and so we don't want to get it where it's like brick flowers brick you know there
needs to be some consistency I think So if if that one's brick where her store is or their store is then this one over here on the east side I would think would need to be brick too And then that's probably it I mean like you don't
want one on one side of the road brick right and the other one mismatch right um but then if we're going to ask people to sponsor and then we brick that one then what are we doing are we open up
the door just to break you know what I'm saying if another business calls and wants it brick do we just then does the city just brick that too i mean you know do you understand what I'm saying like I think so If if we're asking people to sponsor but yet the city bricks that
then why wouldn't the city brick everyone's you know what I'm saying so I just don't know how to I know I know what you're saying Um but that that's just my thought you know i mean if you know
do you get what I'm saying like another business down the road then it was like well I'd like my break too Well I think we can uh what if we made it just a part of the motion right and and it's not a a right It's a privilege that is voted on
I don't know Yeah Does that solve the problem to your perception well I mean I think from procedure I think we don't need to get into D You don't need to take action on D because we're not there yet But what it sounds like you're talking about is a just some sort of sponsorship program right you need to
create some sort of formal sponsorship program that y'all establish and says "Okay business can sponsor and this is the process in which it happens and this is how money is donated whatever." And then in there y'all got to decide this is what it is It's it's pine straw and
it's this type of plant or you you got to do something because yes you're going to get one who wants to look this way one who wants to look that way City staff is not hardcapers We're not going to put bricks in So somebody's going to have to factor in the cost of hiring someone to put that in Yeah We're not landscapers So you know either we going
to do it and it's going to take longer or part of the program is that we got to hire a landscaper to come put it in So those are things we thought about in that and people got to donate because you sure don't want somebody to donate $4,000 or whatever 1,500 2,000 and they're not getting what they thought
they were sponsoring to But again that's the whole point of a donation So you either got to create some sort of standard in some sort of program or don't do it at all or do it and cater you do each one individually as y'all want to see But what is donation they donate to the city or they just donate
to the vendor Well um it was said that maybe what would need to be happen is a separate account would be for this you know for this project Um I know that's how Main Street is doing it now There's a a design committee and so now they
there'll be their own account and that check will go into that and then Main Street writes the check So they got their own account They would just donate You create it They just come and whatever it is going to be they would come and donate to donate to the city and the city would put it in the create a revenue fund for it and they just
supplement y'all's expense fund just an offset Okay Forgive my ignorance What is if the if let's say as a business owner I donate um but are you saying donate to Main Street and then Main Street paying for something i'm trying
to figure out why what role Main Street has in it other than a pass through Well like the other day what what happened is whenever Kelly would said that she wanted that done well we would had to have a meeting We would have to okay it and then it was just the process you're
looking at maybe six weeks out where uh Kelly wrote a check to Main Street and we got it done two days later Um it's just it's a time thing really I mean you know so that's the reason I always wanted to know if if we could move forward like that I mean it it'd be the
person the business's right who they wanted to donate to But if we sort of worked together where the city was bringing in pine straw and the landscape fabric and helping us install it and then you know we were you understand i mean I just think
that you would get it done a lot quicker Um I'm not anti getting it done faster You got a month before it's going to get hot hot People don't like to do stuff as much So if I'm like you we need to get something done next 30 days Yeah Stuff
Now on the money though besides that 8,000 we got left I mean we can use it for plants or pine straw or whatever Do we have to need that money if we're going to put that sign up you know the sign that point stores downtown Will that money go towards a sign that
we're trying to get you know I don't want to get ahead of it but you know I don't because that's a lot of money probably for that deal I I go back to I want to see it finished I think that's the best that's my personal opinion on how to best use that
money so that we're not peacemealing and leaving something even if we are completely paying for that sign and there's no help from anybody else I think that's a it can always be a next year thing My my personal opinion finish what we started
sign always work for the sign later or you know find some You're talking all the way down to the brewery All the way down to what's the brewery last stop Last all the way to there with pine straw and some plants
need something cleaned around the pinion blaze I would say at least pine straw right and weeds pulled sprayed Um and then I would say let's see how far we can get our money to stretch on you could do most all that $8,000 you
could final that whole section So that leads me to ask this So Kobe you made the statement that you know you guys aren't landscapers which we we get Would we be able to utilize the city's help in doing additional plantings it's not that
we couldn't I get you know I'm not in the business saying no right that's not what I'm here to do I don't I'm not going to tell you no It's just not going to happen as fast as you want it to It's not because I don't want it to It's not because we don't But it's very hard for us to dedicate staff down there some because
that that's going to take that takes a couple days I mean that takes there's so many other things happening that I can't stop for a week That's what three guys So I'm not saying it can't be done but it's not it's very difficult for us to go and just say "Okay this is what we do for three straight days." It's more it's
more so of we're going to hit it today We'll pick it back up next Tuesday since we have staff that varies people calling out I mean you you get one person calling out and the apartment's down to four people Two of those are stuck on a something you know they can't come off of until we're down So it's not
impossible It's just not as fast as I think everyone hopes it'll be So you know maybe we can do it It's just we have to have much longer timeline much longer time frame Um and it needs to be well well established on what it is we're doing So would it uh would anybody
be opposed to you know just the volunteers and whether that's a landscape company tony did say you know let him know give him give him a little notice and he would Tony Branson uh said that he would still come help us do stuff So and Mark Bird did the prep work
for Kelly's and it was immaculate Okay Yeah He's got the equipment too Okay And he said the same He said he would do it Okay then I'm I would be Yeah I would be supportive of that So from a a
sponsorship standpoint are you saying you would have a sponsorship um program if you will through Main Street more so than through the city that's what I was offering just for time
timeline Yes You know that's because I I think that there's plenty of people right now that are willing to write a check They wanted to see the momentum continue to go Um and they were not waiting till another meeting you know I like the idea So do you have to schedule another work day or that just going to
be whoever sponsors or Yeah I mean they're going to have to have volunteers because that was a lot on us It was It was a lot And I'm so sorry I wasn't here Oh no But there's us three and then I think the county helped There was three guys but I thought we'd be there two hours but it was 2 three in the afternoon before we got done Yeah and we
didn't have So it takes longer than you thought because of the weeds and all that right but if it if it's prepped it's prepped because we put in Kelly's in under an hour So you know that's the difference is the the leg work being done whenever you go into it Um so you're talking about just pine straw now
instead of planting any more plants this year well I would say go down those medians see how many of the big medians are left and it might be that we do just the same shrub and pine straw So it all has something and then we can go back in and put those other plants And we're
gonna know within the next month how well those plants are going to do because over by the Tesla that's some pretty poor soil there So we're going to luckily we've been getting some rains but once the spot shuts off you know we're going to have to there might be a
chance when the video have to water and they that take a long time You had to water that whole stretch of plants No we got irrigation but we it's not up and running right remember there was an irrigation spet there where we planted where we planted there on the corn Right Kelly's has irrigation too
but it I I don't did it No I thought it turned off It's so hard to keep irrigation working People step on them but that would save the city so much work you know Okay So who wants to put
this in a motion i I I have but I do have one more concern and that is you say volunteers like okay so Mark has the equipment but the install so um if we get it all lined out could we
have like another plan day where we have some help because the install was a lot we can I mean if it's weeks out like maybe you know like a or maybe half a day or something and a couple people Yeah
because if it's prepped I guess I'm I'm I'm having a hard time I'm trying to understand I'm trying to understand the the vision for this I'm very much of a vision person I need to I I think it's prudent to have an understanding with Main Street on whose role is what right because yes the tree board is an
advisory board to the city and you know then we do the work We essentially got three different entities trying to do something downtown City staff tree board and main street The biggest thing the problem I have right we don't know what everyone wants to make sure it look like right you know
we're talking about irrigation We don't we don't know what we want it to look like We don't have there's not irrigation in certain parts of it So you plant these things There's no irrigation Um again I go back to I have very limited staff to run around water plants They've got to cut 14 miles of how many
miles of roadway we got to cut you know in a week Um so it's it's not that I don't want to do it is that we're missing some key components of what it is we're trying to do Because if if y'all are saying "Hey we want those to look a certain way." Then that means we got to put irrigation in That takes some sort of capital injection of money to do
Do we need to have we got to have somebody come and bore water lines downtown to put them in the medians you know so I think I think it's there needs to be a very good understanding of Main Street in the city of what it is everyone wants it to look like Okay Well so what I brought to them was what the
the tree board came up with that look that design those five plants continued everyone So that the the the plan to me the idea is what was decided here That's the plan And those five plants are drought resistant So we did plants that
did not have to have irrigation The only thing that is the irrigation was there If it was something as simple as getting it back up to working that that that was but I don't think that we have to have the irrigation installed if it's not there It's just initial
planning You might maybe the first month you plant them you might have to water them if they don't rain just to get them established right and I think that also the business owners downtown are willing to go out there with with you know so um whenever I reached out about the irrigation it was strictly because I saw
it and so my thought is there's a water line there you know um and maybe in time we can tackle that but I don't think that that should stop us Yeah And and and me taking this to Main Street at the last meeting it was just you know this
we want it consistent and that's what was decided here So I just want to work together So yeah we got three of us down there but I think at the end of the day you know let's not work against each other Let's work together Let's you know make it you know that that's my thought
on it Does that fill any of the holes for you Kobe Another thing we really need to see there sometimes because sometimes there's stuff that needs to be hauled off Rocks cement debris you know and they can take it somewhere I guess if they take it out to the boneyard or
where they take it but unless one benefit at least have them stop by Okay So we're kind of all over the place so let's bring it in Um Summer would you
like to come up with a motion um the motion that I bring to the table is that the city uh help when they can as far as if we plan it out I don't know how to word
this you know Okay So the first step would be uh pine straw So we would purchase the pine straw and then the city would put it down right landscape fabric too Landscape fabric too Okay So that would be step one Step two would be
um the uh plants right so purchasing and installing the plants and that would be probably a uh a day or two uh scheduled a few weeks out Mhm Right And we need the city's help for that
Right Okay Um and then uh step three would be a little bit of maintenance of those plants So uh we don't need irrigation installed but I think if it if we ran
into a dry spell someone would have to sound the alarm and either get businesses to water or get the city out with the water truck if that's possible and uh give them some supplementary water at least for the first month or two Yeah Is that feasible do you think
okay Yeah Um and then uh the maintenance would be I guess a separate issue from all this right um that that would be outside of the scope of this um proposal So we can't forget the prep too Okay And
the prep So So yeah I I skipped over that but um before planting the plants would be the prep of the area So and we're going to look for volunteers as we said for that portion and so you know I'll be glad to reach out Um
so you're looking you're looking to make a motion city to do to partner with Main Street to create sponsorships for the medians and areas that we talked earlier
or proposed earlier to put plants in pine straw with the assistance of the city in executing I like it Continue like we just did Just continue and it would be those same plants that we already installed that list of five
plants right um y and it would just be repeated down the down the various spaces where where it needs to be So does anybody want to say so moved or changed that what I just said do we really have an official motion we don't really have it Was that
coherent enough to make a motion out of or do we need to my very best i mean do we need to reward it or can you give some advice on their motion it says recorded so whatever y'all do we'll we'll pull it up Okay Basically making a motion to continue what we've done Just
moving it down right keep doing it Moving it down Main Street Exactly what we've done already Okay Okay I make a motion All that Do we have a second second Okay All in
favor i passes unanimously Okay Uh dog park update Kobe would you let us know what the latest is please yes So uh our project manager the city left for a new job and so um put on hold So we'll pick it back
up I think one of the questions that one of the things I guess we need to understand now that he's gone because I limited time so I need to really kind of focus in is what it is y'all what do y'all want to see like how many benches you want in this water you want like kind of tell me what it is you look so I
get quotes on that so exact I'm not quoting all kinds of random things so you know you've seen the design or the concept of a small large in that area or you want one bench per section you want two you want a water per section you want one central water
like that changes the cost drastically So that's what you mean small dogs and large dogs You talking about Well you definitely would want water in each section I think water in each section and I'd probably say at least a couple of benches each section Yeah at least two benches And that may be something
you know again that can be donated you know donated by ABC Tree Company Fencing would be the big cost right yes Remember that um we have Northwest
Florida uh fencing Uh Eli has said that he would basically do it pretty close to cost for him So and he would be very transparent with his numbers He had to give us what that is Yep He said he would be very
transparent we want already A rod iron or we want to look We talked about doing that we had gotten was chain link everywhere except for Highway 90 that we brought our sounds good and is the trash can dogway station in
there no but I heard Mike say that So yeah we know it is further uh down the list and we want to talk about that too But yes I think we would want to include at least at least one at least I would say two one for each section
I mean you don't want you don't want nobody nobody wants to walk around too terribly far or have their dog in it right okay Okay All right Um anything else on dog park for
now okay Uh the medians on 90 West I wasn't here I I had given some suggestions to uh Raphael since I couldn't make the last meeting Um was there deci were there decisions made on that or are we still we're still
coming up with suggestions yeah there was no decisions made because our last meeting was at we installed So it was very we you know looked over at the suggestions We talked about murals but we talked one time too just painting it solid color Right Yeah But we're we're
talk we're on medians Oh not the not the mural murals Now mediums We were going to look at the existing crate myrtles See if they need a lot of them look pretty good Yeah I think they're starting to leaf out right now But I
mean I think they look healthy There's a there's one stretch that definitely like there's lychen and it's it's a little iffier in there but the other two I thought looked pretty good They're one of the tougher plants too to have in there Yeah Down below Is it like Indian
Hawthorne there's a bunch of Indian hawthorne And I'm trying to remember what else Um I had looked up you know some landscaping images something that would be more colorful you know colorful
And knockout roses generally do well Um and it would be something that at least for a few months out of the year we'd have some hope Maintenance on them They get laid Is there is there irrigation in those medians dead heading I doubt I
don't think so Okay that would that might that might not work Then the other thing is you could just do something like salt palmetto or like the I mean which I know isn't the most Oh I hate them things Interesting But it's tough as nails You don't have to really touch
it after you put it in It just kind of makes a little hedge Can you just put some grass in there like fountain grass would that be You could That would flowers you know Going back to our list for down Yeah So here's the thing Look for low maintenance This this is a
landscaping job and if we are not able to do it downtown it's hard for me to see that like really I what needs to be done just would all day long is it needs to be edged weedated around all the trees a three-foot circle and pine straw
that by itself no money would make it look a thousand times better city has to do that right it's not DOT No we're maintaining that right but we're talking about putting more plants that's just more work It's just more It's more trimming I'm just saying why not just clean up what's there and see what you
got first you know i mean there's like vines growing in it If we just put more stuff and we don't have the manpower to keep it up then what are we doing you need to hire a couple more people Is that possible but but pine straw does
the whenever you just take around the bottom and you take Round Up and you just kill that grass I don't know if people don't like Roundup but and then you just put pine straw If you have a per circle around every plant that's there it still dresses it up It addresses it way up And pine straw is so treats but it's just the labor issues
the problem right the more we beautify the city the more it's going to take to keep it up That's an issue That's why we put on our uh our list of priorities getting two additional people on staff because we know this is somebody that's in charge
of the parks Remember we said that's all they do is parks and maybe one assistant and also maybe they're an arborist too So well and that's a question I had too like just going I know we do not have the money that Dustin has or other places I understand But do does the city
and other places hire landscapers i mean you know like to run through Is that something that you know that we as a board as if we got more money could say "Okay we'd like to just hire whoever's landscaping to come through
and and maintain the downtown." You know yep That's kind I guess I that's what I was kind of getting at with the other conversation I was looking to let y'all come to that epiphany as we work through it Yeah y'all have the ability We have the ability to do that right we have the ability to get a vendor on board that could be the landscaper that could help
out sort of projects implement Um or we have to increase staff right so that's what I'm getting at when I'm talking about next meeting We're talking about the priorities this board like to see the city take for beautifification of trees You got to work through those things That's what I'm getting at You got to have more staff to do it or we got to bring a v some sort of contractor
on to do them right okay I would rather personally see more staff That's their job Yeah But if you have you get a landscape person though they're going to turn over more or raise you know prices I don't know That's just I see the benefits of both But at least it's
something that we can Yeah research and you know investigate Just Yeah And and talk to people because a lot of people I mean we're given a lot of our time There's a lot of people that might be in the industry that will take a they necessarily can't do it for free because they got to pay their guys but might
take a you know a lower growth is so much right now that's got to slow down but they're so busy now with all these new homes being built Yeah Kobe is that something that you think we should be getting quotes for for to figure out budgeting there's a
couple different there's two different ways we're going about it is you would like let's say you you know let's take the d sections downtown and y'all said let's we want to do five of these at one time We know the total cost of doing five just from materials perspective is $5,000
Um we would go get we would reach out to three landscaping companies say "Hey this is what we want to put in." And they're going to quote you obviously for the material and quote for the labor and whatever else And then you just pick a quote they come do the work Or you know depending on the type of the amount of work you're looking to do or upkeep and
how far you want to go you put out you get a services contract Someone comes in and does landscaping That makes sense So there's two ways going about it Okay I was thinking more along the lines of like if we hire somebody that's going to maintain it Is that what you were saying
or no the city's maintaining it once I was thinking on on of maintenance Yeah I don't know Yeah Currently currently that's what that's what city does We're a maintaining agency as we sit today Okay You know we don't build a whole lot of things right don't we don't
build roads We don't build buildings We contract those out because we're just not that big So we maintain things So it would be a maintenance It's the level of expertise that you're going to need for what it is If you are talking about doing certain things you need more So we can maintain them and you know that's that's probably an internal process that
needs to be fixed or corrected or approved But um when I'm talking about a vendor is if y'all want to put in a certain speed a certain way just like we do when we build something We build a pole barn here If you know staff can't do it because we don't have the expertise building pole bars we just go find a vendor who can build it Okay All
right Thank you for clarifying All right I just thought of landscaper close friend of my son-in-law that might be perfect works in the beach Anyway let's still move forward with our and then and if anything you know maybe
let's look into some maintenance or you know Yeah So what what if we just say let's clean up the median just like you said add pine straw rings around the trees and see what we've got any broken
branches just remove any dead Indian hawthorns because there are a few and anything else that's dead in the short term would that count as maintenance or would that count as we need a landscape company for No it's maintenance I I don't I guess I don't want to confuse y'all what all I'm saying is you can
hire some doer or You could if that's something that y'all want to see and you could get the Kenny Council to get on board with it I'm trying to think of something Just like we have an engineering firm on board We don't have engineers on staff So we contract that service out to them to do that small engineering work or provide designs or whatever You would essentially have a
landscaping company do the same thing Okay that's what that that's the difference in the two But that's something that you all decide that's what you want to push or not And you got to we convince city council that's what fills the mission of the city That makes sense Absolutely Yeah For this for this
though it sounds like the medians on 90 west We're just looking at some initial maintenance and then would you need one of us down there to say this well that's me or you one of you guys down there say this needs to be done Yeah You know I mean just basic stuff Yeah Basic you know edge it Like I said whoever's doing
here it looks really good And there's certain places downtown where the the sidewalks you know the weed eaters turn sideways and there's a nice edging there that makes in the medians that's what needs to be done If you send somebody out there with a weed eater that doesn't know how to edge or has any experience
then it's just going to be mode pretty much So you know maybe we could meet out there and if somebody's willing to you know take a little guidance The other option is just gonna like co just gonna hire a vendor to go out there one day and do it
That's exactly where one day they could do the whole thing That's exactly where I was at just touch it up in one day with the whole crew right be done I'd be interested I would I I would wouldn't mind getting the motion to see what something like that would cost Get an estimate just you know just for us to
have an idea moving forward If not this year then next year you know let's get three quotes and say find out what our medians are to go through and do just initial cleanup which is always going to be more than your your regular
maintenance you know right Would y'all be on board with that i'm I'm on board with that So we need to find two or three people that might be interested in landscapers Yeah I'm thinking one but I don't get them off the beach Oh there's plenty here I
think So I'm making a motion for us to get quotes to find a landscaping crew that would go down and do an initial cleanup of the medians on Highway 90 Sounds good to me Is that a second second
All any discussion i should have asked that first Discussed it All in favor i Any opposed were unan unanimous Um mural on 90 Um Kobe where did we how far did you get
on that i know we talked about it saying home of the braves Was there anything that we needed to get to you [Music] um I have to we'd have to look back and see I don't remember if we ever decided on what you wanted to say or not We did
I think you said that we needed a sketch though something that we could Yeah Yeah I got We got to get a dot Okay Yeah All right So yeah I would say we could really just copy something from the stadium right they've got Yeah And
then I guess after that moving forward would be three quotes from And the colors sort of a blue isn't it bluey blue Navy blue which look fine What a white background first and then a blue and then the navy blue or something I don't know You might paint the wall dark
blue to kind of hide some of the stuff and make white I guess if y'all could just if y'all just could decide on what you kind of wanted to say Okay Then we'd reach out to some artists pick the one who's already been doing work downtown and just say here's what they want to see and then let her just create a sketch and then write it back to you
Power Yeah Sarah Paige and Christina out of Crest View has done a lot here Yeah they have Yeah I don't um I will send that to you Kobe So what is is has everybody seen what
the high school has at the stadium by any chance i was hoping it would pop up but like this guy the brave I know that's a little photo but have him somewhere on there
and use the same font that the stadium or that the school uses and maybe the spear Yeah Some of the frames definitely Yeah So who are the who are the two artists uh
Sarah Paige and then I don't know Christina's last name but she does a lot for the sheriff's office The ones down there that done some of the other ones she did my mural Yeah Oh yeah It's the one that did your mural Sarah Paige did the Magnolia and then at the fairgrounds
This one I met I met her one Magnolia But both of them are are very um Christina um I think it's Christina Dono but it's Christina Custom Art is her social I'll get you her info Yeah just have to
reach out to them and tell them to go look at the find the talking about something of that spirit and put it on that layout Do we have the dimensions of that cuz they're going to want that They are going to want that Yeah So length of Yeah Just the the full
length and the height So I might can get by there and can some of the city staff do that or do you want us to do that yeah we'll take care of Okay Step it off or whatever Okay All right Moving on Uh sign design suggestions for the intersection of 10th Street and
Baldwin I I failed to complete this assignment Well that's what this is So I I called Summer and she think appreciate you doing that Ask her to kind of sketch it out I need to know if y'all are good with it You want some change to it because the reason to do that is because we have a welder on staff Very good And we're going to give it to him and see if
he can if he can build that up there We can buy the rod iron and he can do the welding And then if he can that's step one If he can do it But if you can't we'll have to find somebody else do it and we're going to have to find somebody to do the bricks anyways So I just need to know if there's a design you want to change it So forgive me because I went back to the minutes and read and all it
said in the minutes was we agreed on a design and then I was my foggy brain I was like I I so I I could not remember if we said brick here or was this going to be open because I thought I thought
that because we had talked about putting the last meeting right there was a bunch of those though We did talk about I think breaking it I think you want to break it if you don't see through the railro tracks right but also secondarily I'm sorry It's just so I don't forget
this Um the the audio hasn't been updated for 2025 for our board So I wanted to go back and listen but I couldn't If we can somebody can help get that that would be great Get Raphael Thank you I don't want that updated And so in the minutes it said that
um Mike had said doing the arrows and then um Kobe had said well maybe just with the main so I was going off what was in the minutes you know just maybe the main like dining this way city hall that way and then we had discussed like if if people wanted to do like like if
you wanted Kim company um then then you would have sponsorship on the brick but it would be still the iron plaques so you could just change it out right because that but these things here would always stay the same like dining shopping um the pharmacy and the
personal stuff that might switch up but right well the name of a pharmacy but um um so yeah so this is from what we had talked about this is what I came up with the like the sign that she just showed us it was iron here but there was another one that had like what I think
all of our signs are made out of is like a flat um I like the iron you know I like yeah I like the brick and then this part iron The sign up top is that going to be iron defunia What would that be well can you show him that one that you just showed
again i mean what would that background it wasn't It wasn't It was It was this one here that you preferred and that other side I think it has I don't know if that's wood What that background yeah I'm not sure what material It was that one or the one that he has Historic downtown Definiac Spring Spring Spring
springs spring I know right some typos in there AI AI Yeah That looks nice but that's going to be more maintenance if you have the stuff plants growing on it right i like personally this one but I'm not
opposed to that one And I like that one too This is something that is very like we would just show the the guy this you know what I mean right Um I like Do y'all like the historic downtown Definiac or just Definiac
Springs historic on the water tower I think historic would be pretty good Yeah that might draw more people Historic Might walk down there I like historic No I do too Do you like Florida i like Florida too I'm go to Florida
because we're talking about people taking their pictures Yeah And so otherwise you don't have Florida there You don't know where they're at So well if you have one like that people might take pictures under it but it's not pretty important So then maybe we show
the welder this concept but this being the top Yeah like that Um because that's probably metal there And then you know would we want to do um like brick a little taller like this
this has grit columns and then wrap it or do you want to do all raw iron either way Yeah I don't I don't know What do you think of it i like the diagram here Yeah I like the diagram but then do the top
like this Yeah lower maiden It's more you know and this is whenever I was drawing I was sort of thinking I mean this you know you're talking about doing the green but then it it takes over This here could be a planter and then you just had stuff
right here with ivy just hanging over Ivy's an evergreen Well no ivy though the right ivy will grow Maybe the plant if you made a planter there a little But I'm saying just putting ivy where it just is like greens hanging over Yeah Yeah I like that That's a really interesting Um and then I this on
the sides I like that Four four on each side A couple could be chained up somebody sponsored And the right side was stay just like you got at city hall All right So jail this but then the top more intricate like the sides
Yeah So do all this but then this then include that So have that solid piece of metal Okay Yeah I like it I probably got one at home I'm sure you Okay Uh let's move on It's getting late
Um new business urban orchard project Kobe are you going to talk to us about this i think Denise Denise is here Denise you want to talk please Denise Kanye grants coordinator So sorry Can you hear me not really Nothing It's
not It's very low Speak up I will project my voice Excellent Okay So we were just awarded the urban orchard project for Deuniac Springs We had a kickoff meeting with the agency
last week and we're now ready to begin the project Um we just need to decide on which trees that we're going to plant at both of the locations Pat Coobal one and Pat Cobalt 2 So there is
u a quote from one of the landscapers that we've included to give you an idea of what 30 gallon trees the fruit trees would cost They've put certain types of trees that would work together in that quote and really we
just want to get from you today if you think those trees are going to work for this plan The plan is to plant them alternating around the perimeter of both of the parks
And if you don't agree with the trees we can go back to them and ask I saw I sent a list to Scott Simmons 3 four months ago about trees I thought would survive certain fruit trees Are these are these those i doubt it Um I would say the
kumquat is probably the best one there Yeah Um I would swap either the lemon or the orange out for satsuma Um peach would be okay but it's not going to produce any fruit Yeah it's got to be sprayed a lot Could we do a fig
tree instead fig or a Japanese plum or pimmen japanese plum Low quad pmen Yeah right Too much of the lowquat L O Q U A T
and maybe Pimmen Big Pimmen The Japanese Pimmen though The same thing Yeah Yeah Oh Japanese plum and lowquat It's the same No in Japanese pmen We don't want the native pmen She's a pimmen right there Not the
new pmen Yeah Not the astringent Yes Are we okay with a lemon no I don't think so It's gonna freeze That's iffy Yeah Sad zuma Well it's in a park You sort of want something that kids can go grab and eat They're not really eat I
mean maybe a one they could try but they probably you're gonna have better success doing satsuma kumquat and those other ones Well what about the um peach is no good and a apple no a night counsel against it Again you're just not going to get
any fruit and reliably right I've tried many apples over my years Um I hate to shoot down all the Sorry Yeah The cost I mean there were other suggestions uh from other nurseries They suggested Dorset
apples Anna apples malberry tree loquat Um and then centennial loquat as an option if those all could cross-pollinate and work well with each other Yeah I mean loquat should be fine by itself Yeah loquat's fine by itself Malberry would be fine but it gets really big so it would have to have
space It can get messy but as long as you put it over in a corner or something Okay Well it make for a nice shade tree Yeah they're tasty I like them And what about um was was the design how did that get
so that was just um preliminary design That's where we thought that the fruit trees would work best And putting them on the outside allowed them to be easily manageable and sort of not really fenced off but where we could designate that the or urban orchard area and make it
easier so we could start to host the educational aspect of it And we can start to bring the community in and do teachings and workshops to let them know about uh urban about the orchard care and the culture and working along with
the partners in the community keeping it outside of the park so that we're not disturbing the people that are using the playground Gotcha Or the trees get disturbed by the people using that as well That is another thing because one the one park is a lot smaller I mean I didn't know how you have trees so many
per park Has that already been decided that's what we're deciding right now How many so we've split them up into 10 per park I do There's 20 trees total Okay And um I can't remember the trees that were suggested on that plan
Um it's the same isn't it so like the peach tree just I would just trade that out for lowquat or something Peach trees I would do the pimmen instead of the lowquat because even my lowquat this year didn't make you got orange tree
that needs to be switched out too Right All right But we're going to do fig Okay Fig So you're saying fig kumquat satsuma and pima Mhm That sound good that sounds good to me
Those always make doesn't matter So our budget for the trees is 7,500 Uh right now with the 20 trees we can average around 5,000 with the local nurseries You've named off 25 potential So we could add another variety or do you want
to stick to only four varieties at the moment i'd like adding loquat but so satsuma loquat kumquat and fig Plus it'll be cheaper Those trees should be cheaper than an orange tree and a beach tree Definitely orange tree will be
cheaper Those are super expensive They should the cost should come down with the So is this quote for this is for the plants and the installation the total quote um is the matching quote
So what's covered in the total grant is your the cost of our work for the city to do the irrigation installation and to plant the trees and to produce the educational materials and to host the workshops with the community So it
includes everything Okay Thank you What about blueberry bush i mean kids love blueberries Oh yeah Yeah that's possible But I think it probably needs a little more maintenance and put in the same area as these it
would be a little messy because it needs acid soil and organic matter So I think it's different enough from these that uh fertilizing right i think that that would make it a little more difficult to maintain It's it's possible but you'd have to have somebody who knows what
they're looking at Do that in a different area lakeyard or somewhere We can do that bushes or something right okay And when's the proposed planning time for this stuff we have until January of next year to complete the
project So we have plenty of time but ideally we would like to get started now so the trees have enough time to make it through the season You really need to plant them within the next month or wait till about November Yeah So yeah you don't want to plant during summer I'm willing to be down there when they plant them just to make sure they get them
right depth and stuff I mean I think me and you do that to Evan I Yeah I'm sure I could find time to just make sure they get installed But I mean I like the layout putting them around the edge That makes sense to me Yeah definitely
And all everything we listed is self-pollinating So yeah they don't necess they could be mixed You don't have to have them We can mix them for I like that too Yeah I just want to see the plants actually thrive and produce fruit and not be something
Well yeah We'd love to have these other ones but just so the quotes are geared towards the 30 gallon It was recommended for that size They're between 5 to 7 foot tall so they have a greater potential um lasting That's awesome Sounds good We might we
need to use some of those things Satsuma Loquat Kumquat and fig Yeah Fuyu or Gyra [Applause] And secondly to this project um there will be long-term maintenance and a
sustainability plan that will need to be shown to the agency so they know we are taking care of this And it would be recommended in the future to have a landscape specialist on staff and it would also help with the FOB beautifification grants in the future
There we go I like that Any questions for me on the grant i don't think so Thank you so much Thanks That's great Okay Um Chipley Park and Lake
Definiac The first thing uh the Veterans Memorial Master Plan Fountain and Veterans Memorial But I'd like to um I don't really know where the Veterans Memorial is right now I know they had narrowed down some places I think the
CRA picked three locations I I never the pick three locations and then I know that they approved um issuing a toberry to start doing the preliminary design So that's where they're at currently I haven't heard anything else I think it's within years getting
designs made Okay So um for those who may not know um the Veterans Memorial one of the proposed locations was in the Lakeyard uh or Chipley Park and uh it was kind of in that little bottom where they usually put the um manger scene Um
I'm I'm personally I don't want to see more stuff in in the lakeyard That's my opinion Um I shouldn't have said that I should have asked for your opinion first but I didn't That's our cats out of the bag Um so um anyway I just wanted us to
discuss because there's between that going on there um we uh had um one of our goals was to have a master plan for Chipley Park And I I think so that
things like this don't come up right and we have no plan or or or a a way of addressing it Um I think it would be something that I'd like to look at as a possibility of having that done next year I don't know if there's any grants that might be available for that sort of
thing Kobe Um but I I'd like to see a full plan for the lakeyard So and that's that Were you with us we did that master plan years ago Yes But that's that master plan called for a
master plan for Chipley Park Yeah And it's one of our six goals that we agreed upon and the council approved was to have a master plan for Chile Park We keep improving it but not really under a plan We just sort of But you don't like the So this Veterans Memorial that's a
done deal No it's not a done deal It's one of three locations that they're considering See I like it down in the hole Well you don't I don't like it in Shipley Park Oh okay You don't like it it's not It's not that particular location That's just I don't I don't there are deed restrictions and things
that are that go along with the park and it's it's supposed to be passive It's supposed to be nature I I don't think it's in an ideal location for people to be parking there and it has nothing to do with where I live to be very clear Um because it's it's far enough away from
me I'm not worried about it That's not my reason I just don't think that that is the location for it that there there's other city properties that that it could be on I'm just not a fan of it But I wanted to get y'all's
opinion and I've already said is the room anywhere around like the caboose and all that or not no room for it there You wonder where most the other two locations Kobe um the one is the vacant lot there beside the tennis court Yes And then I'm going blank on the third
one Um I cannot remember where the third one's at the moment I personally had thought that a second across the street would have been a great location for a veterans memorial but Oh right over here That's true Because it would be very visible to people visiting Yeah I'm going blank on the turtle Okay I can't
remember since probably they'll never put a road through there like we talked about years ago The mayor talked about the bypass would come right through that park Well that got nixed because of wetlands and other things I like that idea I thought that the that next to the
tennis courts we had there was some plan at some point to have pickle ball courts there What happened with that so we were we began going we got the preliminary design on and then we were going to apply to uh FDRAP but it was recommended
and we had conversations with Liberty who's going to help us with that and go through FAP that uh it was probably a fuel effort because the state is not funding ball court and those fat grounds Gotcha So and there was some costs associated with that some commitments from the city that I didn't feel was in
I didn't feel was worth allocating that money to if we weren't going to get it because they were okay They were pretty well sure that we it was not going to result we wanted to Yeah Because those fur grants are based off points per project what they are where they're at this and that and what the aspects of it
are and pickle ball courts were not getting funded by the state So there's not enough I mean I don't play pickle ball but there's I don't know what the need is Well and there are you know brand new ones up here park the county built There are Mhm They're brand new Yeah Brand spanking new Just a few months old Where's this we care park The
county Oh they got pick Okay There four Oh that should take care of that But yeah around the tennis courts if you had them all at least somewhere where people would see it you know That's my thing If you want to put it up nobody's going to see it
I just the lakeard's used a lot So we're we're with the memorial downtown is where I mean uh around the lakeyard is where we're at Um and this is in um so this is just discussion Yeah just discussion Um I I
don't I don't I don't dislike it down there but I mean it's I'm not one way or the other really How about by the amphitheater somewhere close to the amphitheater Well I think that in time I hope that that's going to be all you really should stay away from that because hopefully the amphitheater will
be before my end of my time Well I hope things move fast I mean it's it's it's possibility in the next five years that something's done with amphitheater I hope Yeah Who who makes that decision we don't make that decision anyway right the the memorial right well there'll be
town halls workshops kind of thing on it Um but I just wanted you guys to be aware of it and know that was you know in the plan that was being discussed Um and I also of course wanted to bring up the master plan so you guys can kind of
be thinking about um you know is that something that we want to try to tackle now or later and then amphitheater would be in that master plan It would be in the master plan which sounds good Yes So yeah there's there's a little bit of
caveat to some of that I'm not saying it's not possible we would have to get legal There are there the way statutes are written for the CRA right the CRA is the one taking a lead on redoing the amphitheater right now with getting the the feasibility study and design There are certain things the city cannot do to
interfere with that or the CRA is no longer eligible to do it So that's why like amphier is not on the city's capital improvement project list is because if it is the CRA can't do it right because it's a dedicated It's I don't I'm not saying it can't be included in something like that but there would have to be some wording you know that documents more of a general
guideline So it could probably be done That's some of the stuff we have to work around even like downtown You know that's why it's important uh I did a couple months ago um about a year ago now to meet with CRA and Main Street in the city to understand who wants to do what what it
looks like because there are certain things that we can't do if we want CRA to do it or CR you know you just can't statute will prohibit So okay makes sense Um go ahead Well and um yeah it's it's sort of off the
subject I mean it it's some somebody brought up and they asked that I would bring it to you and I I agreed it talking about the lakeyard and you you know you'd like to see improvement down there is So yeah we need something that has some and so but that could be like
next We can talk about Well instead of plant we've been planting a lot of trees Yeah But maybe more and more blueberries and aas and stuff next next planting season instead of trees right yeah Because if we had a bunch of around the lakeyard it takes up space that you're
not having to mow You can let them grow wild I think they're prettier whenever they're just do their thing And and now they are you know what forever whatever it is that you know blooms throughout most of the summer where it doesn't bloom for two weeks like most of the we have right now on board Thank you Yeah
And and I think that would be a good Yeah If you wanted to do blueberries that would be a good thing to do with these areas because they need similar same similar condition Similar maintenance and similar conditions So So do that instead of trees next year We planted a lot of trees this year Yeah But yeah
I I totally agree Yeah Um and then I'm sorry Go ahead on that same topic the the the master plan is there's two so something we do at the cemetery and I we'll have it before the cemetery board next time is we created staff did a five-year development plan for the cemetery so it starts next fiscal year
um cemetery board's got to adopt it and then we'll take it to council and say we want to do it because and we did it um I think uh with really thinking about cost and everything so how do we get things done over a fiveyear period and so it's something that we don't have to have a consultant come in and create us 80 page
document for the the lakeyard that's got a lot of words in it Something that this board can create um and put it over say a fiveyear period and because there's a couple things in there right now we're working that I'm working on that need to be addressed but they it's going to take times are expensive There's drainage
issues down there A lot of the dirt's getting washed away I've already met with NRCS for solution to that existingly Um you know some of that is possibly improving some parking lot down around the the boat ramp and readressing water runoff it's causing a problem Um
and bike racks and stuff So it can be done here It'll just take some time to do it But I mean I think if I don't have it on me we'd have to give it to you But I think what staff created for the cemetery is very doable here And it's I think it's a very good product So long as the council approves with it makes
tweaks and agrees to it that's something every budget cycle I will refer back to and say "Okay this year is what we decided to do at the cemetery and here's what's going to cost." And that's that's exactly what I want us to be able to do so that we're not always reacting to you
know whatever the latest thing is Um would it be appropriate to send that to us prior to just so we can see an example of it prior to Yeah Just so we can see that as reference We
want to do a master plan right and the other thing that I wanted to bring up um was the fountain So uh one of the residents and I want to give him due credit it was Joe Eddie Uh he said that he had always wanted to see a
fountain in the middle of Lake Definiac And I thought that's a really great idea What do you know sorry Go ahead That's okay I I just thought it was a really great idea And if you guys know Joe he's got a tremendous sense of humor Uh and so at first I kind of thought he was
kidding and I wasn't really on board but then um after he explained it and he sent the video to me um I actually think this could be super cool as a fundraiser So um assuming when you get back to the computer I'll get you to to play the
video I'm gonna go tell Michael Yeah perfect Yes thank you I'm sorry I was thinking that was you not Michael Um so Joe uh had suggested putting a a big fountain and using a uh chariot race as
a fundraiser and different businesses building their chariots and racing them around Lake Definia Um so he sent me a video of an example of something very similar
I like gladiator So we could do that Okay And there's no there's no sound Yeah Sorry Cardboard So yes cardboard and not a real not a real one Okay Not a real chariot No we're not actually gonna have
gladiator battles See oh horses Okay I just think that would be super cool And I I know I'm I'm really mixing two things together Uh but I I did want to make sure that I
presented Joe's idea in full Um and then uh another resident Mr Mr Benton Sard who is here tonight and I'm calling him out Uh he had also had that same idea And so I said "Okay well this is twice in one week so I think I'll go ahead and
say something." I I'll build one if you two pull me because I'm older You're building a fountain or a dar I thought you were going to build a fountain Um but again that's something that we would want to put in a a master plan but I wanted to plant the seed I'm sure you
know Joe and Benton are not the only people who have Would that be solar because you know we do put some in the lakeyard for Christmas and that looks nice the lights they roll that whatever they got they put on middle lake yard you're talking about fountain year round I think that'd be cool plus it airates it's good for the fish airates I don't
know be run by solar or you know that would that would be a discussion for another day but I just wanted to plant the seed and let you guys yeah that have to be a fundraiser because that'd be hard to get so the fountain could be something like So this is what we've done for the cemetery So okay you'll scroll down Michael to year one there
and this has actually been updated since but a little bit but so year one you know this is these are some things that can be done internally that don't cost some money except and so um working with the garden club on the butterfly garden We can make we can designate certain things Again this has been changed This
is actually an old one but it's still the same format right um year two Michael And then we started then we start getting into fixing the roads and establishing the base and coping And then we year three continue to pave Year four and small things there and there
but same thing apply to Chile Park and the lakeyard that you know you could start doing those type of things um and putting on paper Yeah Yeah What's nice because this didn't cost a whole lot of money either right no internally It took a couple months but
because we're doing stuff like bad houses and planting trees You just got to put it in a plan Yeah Yeah makes sense Yeah we can do that Thank you Uh and there's no action to take on that It's just discussion Um and then pet
waste stations and garbage cans in Chipley Park Um this is something that we've discussed in the past to some degree but there we just need more There there's hardly there's hardly any garbage cans and there's no pet waste
station Just those wire ones in there for the garbage can I know there's one by the Yeah there's a feeder There's one and they move sometimes but Yes they do move sometimes Um but yeah particularly on the east side there's there are very few Um and and I I would like to see us
add some pet waste stations as well because there's nothing What is that pet waste pooper scooper thing just a little for people to put their bags of dog waste in and it's just for that They probably think they like made that but they don't
need it'd be hard to get people to do that would they're already doing it They're just taking their bag with them home No they're just putting them in our garbage cans that are provided have a separate so that ain't mixed I guess it's just a little station where you got bags in a little you know container to
put in garbage So I don't I don't know Um again I know that's a a budget item That should cost a whole lot though I would think Well get 10 of them and you'll maybe get
a break on something I don't know But is that something that you guys would be on board with for asking for budgeting next year or something to think about yeah it's just um again you know upkeep That's somebody's got to make sure that they get clean out once a week Yeah Is
that get you know but Yeah I mean I think most parks most parks do have them I mean you know I think we're probably one of Does We Care Park have them it's like they run just under $200 if you get a you know cheaper one So you could you could get a few for just get
three of them to start with And most people traveling from cities I mean they're just super used to it They're that's that's what they're doing you know So they're not just letting their dog go to the bathroom which is good you know Yeah Throw them under the zelia bushes and blueberry bushes for fertiliz
Okay Um 4 D pavers and bike rack in front of Suare This is at Bowwin and 8th Street Um the beer bombs had asked if it would be okay if they put pavers there Um and I'm I'm not going to remember exactly
the reason You may Well no but that that that's where I was getting at They actually asked if the city would pay for the dollars Um so that that's the reason I was like well you know if we're doing a sponsorship but but I would be willing I mean I think if we did the east side
as well maybe just getting a price and seeing How big area you talking about it it's just like the ones that the corner pieces that are like where uh Pearl is you know they're already brick I guess the city did that years ago They had to
have I mean it was um look at them again So she's wanting it to match that So and and they said you know possibly that maybe the city paid for it I think is the way it was worded Um but maybe we come up with a a quote and see
what it cost and bring it back and go from there I don't even know who to you know who to quote it from right i think the bike rack is a great idea And um I think it was stated that or maybe she just said told me but
people are leaning bikes up against the wall Here's what Amanda said May I make a request to do the jut out in front of my store with paper similar to the 700 block We would like to purchase a bike rack to put there to eliminate the bicycles leaning up against my building and encourage people to be active
Depending on the cost of the paper pavers we would be willing to contribute to that as well So they're offering to purchase the bike rack Yes Okay Definitely bike racks needed possibly chip in the paper Get a quote and see what it costs and
people can lock their bikes up too if they wanted to I think we can do that We can get a quote Sure And like you said get one for the the southwest corner of the 700
block at the same time Yeah So we know as a point of information Kobe is that something that you can Let me southwest corner of the 700 block Which one um so
across ETH across eight So if you're looking at Suare here's 8th Street Then that corner there that's the one you're talking about right the one parallel to the clock Yes In front of the old hardware store
Yes Yes Oh okay That' be a good place Okay Uh 4E water tower Um while we're uh you know dreaming and spending money I have more ideas Um I don't think that our water tower is bad but I think it could be more
interesting Um and had looked around and thought maybe we could do some sort of mural or something on it Um I've even seen some where they they had the design preprinted and it got wrapped Um I I've thought it would be cool to
maybe do um a mural that would have like the lake or the houses or you know kind of you know what our our our streets look like right with the iconic things Um I also thought it would be cool to have a train that the train idea hasn't
seemed to have taken off and anything with Main Street So I don't know if they are still thinking about that summer You know we had talked about doing a locomotive a bronze locomotive thing down at down at the um opinion place or you know what I mean
Cuz I I mean our town was founded by the railroad men So I I don't know I just think and there were even a couple of um Yeah I'm a big big fan for the train anything whether it's sculpture
this one um so they made it look like a teapot so I was like okay well maybe we could make ours look like a train right I mean there's a lot of creative ideas but um I just thought that would be a cool place to help us stand out um again it's not that it's bad it's just a
little plain little playing game I like the idea of the train I could see it going all It's all the way around Just do it all the way around it Be done with it one time Somebody that's not scared of heights have to do that one I'm sure that would
be cheap Yeah I'm not against it I think you'll get uh that might be a contentious idea with the public because people hate change and that's pretty disable change But um boy you ever you you went to the that little town in Georgia you ever been
through there what is it called it's got the peach Yeah No it's got all the murals up high and stuff They did a farming peanut farmers Oh yeah We need that guy over here And I mean we are definitely Makaker's Mark pouring down but I was like okay well you could make
it look like water I don't know It was just a lot of cool ideas There's some a neat way to make us stand out Yeah But obviously still keeping it clean keeping it clean and and um classy Yeah No that's definitely something That's not a
bad idea I like that I'm done dreaming now Um we are up to citizen comments Do we have any citizen comments from the from the sole citizen Um I do
have one comment Anything else and I think I mentioned the summer but I don't know if Councilman Valley brought it up Toby but I talked to the Centy Lake guy about we need to get rid of that ugly tower Oh yeah this is good topic So I talked to the guy you know right where
we did the landscaping and he said "We don't use that tower anymore We'd love to get rid of it." Oh wow And I talked to the councilman about it he was there and uh in that they would chip in even the phone company about getting it down
and I don't know we talk about CRA maybe could do it but they don't even use it it's just that ugly tower right there and the guy that works I can't think his name but I mean I can pursue it more if you want me to but councilman I talked to him about it too and he liked the
idea when you're talking to him I know we want to put a mural on that side of the building the postcard the welcome to defiac Okay And now it's under new ownership Before we got somewhere and then we then we hit a roadblock I can follow up with that because the guys
seemed Yeah they've been bought out It's not even sent some company I didn't even recognize the company name Huh you know who it was i No I didn't even bought out Yeah it's not even centur So yeah I don't know how much influence this guy has but he he thought that
wouldn't be Do you have his contact i can get it because he he works in there a couple hours a day I told him I'd beat on the door so they didn't come in and talk to him Yes please do At least beat on the door But then he said he could get the tower I don't know if he can sell the part or you know get rid Huh i
don't want it You don't want it But he said that councilman said that that might be something salvageable can put him in charge of it and then we'll see what we'll have to see how election goes Huh Well either way we want you to pursue this Yeah But the guy was all for
it I think Right Sure I just thought you get I just brought it up and he said that we haven't used that for years He says that tower Wow And if the person you're talking to if you get a contact person I really do want to talk to somebody about the wall though That's No I talked him too about that
needing paint and I to see who his not just needing paint but putting a mural on it mural I don't even know what's going to happen since the company bought it I got to look that up He told me the name of the company I don't know Yeah Get get his contact information and and whoever else he wants to please All
right The name of the company is L Yes that's it Yep That's it Yep Thanks Thank you That's what he told me Okay Okay That's good Anything else
all right we will adjourn And it is 6:31