What? >> Everybody okay? >> You okay? >> Yes. Yep. >> Yeah. We're uh we're going to call the meeting to order 303 pledge. >> Lord God, please guide us here today in
this uh this hiring uh process uh for a new director. Um we thank you for all that you've done for us and given us and please guide us through this process in Jesus Christ. Amen. >> Amen.
>> To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Well, we're gonna
move on to these interviews. So, uh we have looks like you had Mr. Christopher Edwards by Zoom and uh if you would please state your name for the record and uh and then we will proceed with I guess you want should I ask these
questions or do you want to ask maybe you ask questions better >> okay >> you let me know I'm happy to do whatever >> easier >> a whole thing yeah I like when you do the whole person and then I'll do a whole then you do Is that what you're
thinking? No, I'll do one, two, three. Okay. Because I like writ >> and Mr. Edwards. Um, sometimes I talk a little fast. So, if you need me to repeat a question that I answer or ask, don't hesitate to ask me. Um, if you
want me to reward it, I will do my best because I give you AI on this question. But same goes for Mr. Henderson. If you repeated question, just let him know. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> We can't hear you. >> Is your mute on? >> Can you hear me now? >> We're not having any We don't have any audio. >> Jessie, hold on. That might be alarming. >> Can you try to speak again?
>> Testing. Can you hear me now? >> Can you hear us? >> Mr. Edwards, >> I I can hear you. >> All right. Little sign language. >> Welcome to Zoom. Enter your meeting ID followed by pound.
Enter your participant ID followed by pound otherwise just please enter the meeting passcode followed by pound. >> You are in the meeting now. There are two participants in the meeting. You have been added to the waiting room. You
cannot talk. >> Okay. Okay. >> Can you hear us? >> Can you hear us now? >> Yes. Can you hear me? >> Perfect. >> Perfect. >> All right, we're good. >> He can still hear you.
>> I didn't know if >> I should be able to hear, >> right? Um Mr. I will start with question number one. And as you probably heard earlier, it's going to go between me and Mr. Henderson.
>> Turn down. >> All right. So, prior to getting you a copy of the job description, do you understand the essential function of this position? >> Yes. >> Okay. Are you able to perform the physical
demands of this division? >> Yes. >> All right. >> Okay. Moving on to question two. >> What >> what research did you do prior to your interview about Fineiac Springs, the CRA, and the current projects?
>> Uh had a chance to look at your CRA page. Uh most of your recent um accomplishments. um know that you updated your master plan. Uh you've had some successes with your incentive grants. Um you know,
there's there's been some uh desire to continue to move forward with those programs. Um as well as you know, the annual report and things of that nature that that the uh CRA has published. >> Okay. Thank you.
Please explain to the board the function of a CRA in Florida. >> Yes. Uh to the board uh yes CRA is a very unique tool that every u municipality or county of political subdivision chooses to have within its
in its jurisdiction. Um throughout my career it's been very beneficial in Leburg and Tallahassee and uh New Smyrna Beach Marian County area. Um, and I know it's also been beneficial to DuPontiac Springs. Um, but it's a special district
uh that is established with the goal of removing blight and dilapidated uh properties. Uh, moreover, that's a primary premise. Um but the goal of it also is to enhance the value um ultimately to that local entity as far
as taxable value and seeing uh property values go in a positive direction um and stabilize the local economy through certain programs and and uh projects that that CRA uh works with the local government as well as partners with the
private uh sector uh to accomplish. Okay, thank you. Um, >> question four would be tell the board why you think it is important for a CRA to exist. >> Absolutely. Uh, the primary reason back
to the the removal and and the elimination of slum and blight uh in the community when you have rundown buildings, underutilized properties, um they're unsightly. they don't they don't make the communities in general um look
pleasing or inviting or for anyone to really see any true um economic uh future there. Uh, and so when you have communities that don't have a CRA, and there are many throughout the country that don't have that type of tool, um,
you see a lot of people leaving those communities, whether they're residents or businesses. And I think CRA can be used as a tool by the local government, um, to make those improvements and those enhancements uh, a reality um, for the community and ultimately add to the
quality of life. uh help with diversifying the tax base which is a hot issue of contention in the state of Florida as far as who shares the lion share of tax burden. Uh so the CRA can be a player in that um with with
leveraging the resources that it has. It can't solve all the problems of a community but it can solve those strategic ones. aspect position. >> I'm sorry. Can you repeat the question? I apologize about the um having lawn
noise outside the door there, unfortunately. >> What aspects of the CRA position appeal to you? >> What aspect the CRA I caught the last part of that, I'm sorry.
>> App appeal to you. >> Oh yes. Um I think seeing a a community transform um that's that's really a real exciting thing for any anyone in CRA is taking a plan from conception. Um you know going through the stakeholders,
going through the local community and vetting those ideas and and strategies with the community, getting them to buy into it. And then once they buy into it, your elected leaders buy into it uh ultimately by voting on it. It's then seeing that project come to fruition uh
as I've done throughout my time in economic development and CRA work in communities where you know those elected officials, those community stakeholders can then come to that finished project or finished idea and and celebrate that. And I think that that's some of the the biggest uh accomplishment and excitement
about the profession is taking a project and a program and utilizing it to the to the benefit of the entire community. What do you view as the main challenges or opportunities facing our city which would be Definiac Springs as it relates
to the CRA? >> I think you have to look at size of the CRA or one one aspect of it. um you know and then also you know what what the appetite by the elected body would be to
uh leverage the resources that you have uh to make a greater impact. I think also one of the challenges will be you know with the revised plan you know having real real tangible milestones that make results because as as the
board I'm sure has come to know CRAAS are not permanent they're not indefinite uh they do have a a life and and that time will sunset and so what measurable progress uh can be made within the the new revised timeline um those will be
the biggest challenges and and what you decide to make priorities from a year-to-year basis uh from staff's recommendation from that from the executive director's direct recommendation to you all to make that decision uh what those priorities are
going to be based on that professional's opinion. So I think those are the challenges and getting getting consensus and getting collaboration with the leadership to say this is what we want to tackle with the time that we have with the CRA what we think is realistic
uh to accomplish. um and and being able to address those in a timely way that that matters to the community and that makes inroads with what the CRA was created to do, which is really to eliminate those uh dilapidated eyes in
the community and add overall value, taxable value back to the city so that those dollars can then be reinvested back in the community in a in a public infrastructure enhancement way or or any other way that's deemed appropriate for Duniaak Springs.
Tell us about your education background. >> Excuse me. I'm sorry. I'm hearing like a a shuffling of paper, so I can't really hear what you're saying. >> All right, that was me. Okay, my apologies. >> No problem. >> Let me make Should I put the mic like
maybe put it this way? Like it'll work. Is that good? Try that. >> That's a far. >> Um, tell us about your educational training background and previous work experience that you believe qualifies
you this position. >> Absolutely. Um, I consider myself an economic developer and and community redeveloper uh from the onset of my career actually. Um, I'm a proud alumni of of two great Florida institutions of
higher learning and and wellacredited and a well accomplished institutions. University of Central Florida for my undergrad which is a bachelor's in public administration. Uh, and then of course there's your neighbors to the west there, University of West Florida uh with my uh with my MBA uh degree from
them as of uh 2020. Um, so I I've had some really good opportunity and of course to continue to take continuing education courses with UCF uh and other programs uh throughout my career. Um but but from the time I started my career
really in Leburg which was I'm a native of Florida and I'm a native of Leburg particularly um you know I had opportunity to do a lot of good things in that community um you know working through strategic plan there you know seeing added enhanced public
infrastructure going back seeing businesses that I helped uh through some type of incentive program seeing residential programs with housing rehab and uh whether it's public infrastructure improvements to a local park to uh utilities uh under uh
utilities type services and enhancements whether it be electric, water, sewer or gas. Um new sidewalks, new streetscapes, things of that nature that CRAAS are traditionally known for. Um and from there, Marian County, same results and Tallahassee
being able to um you know, work on on communities that had been forgotten about and and being a business advocate. that I had an opportunity to take on special projects beyond my job description um that made a difference. We partnered there uh in Tallahassee
with the Urban Land Institute of North Florida uh and were able to get together a building healthy places initiative for the South City neighborhood in Tallahassee. Um, and we had an opportunity to grow that particular uh community uh there. then in New Simra
Beach to to help increase the taxable value there and be able to accomplish uh programs there through incentive programs, innovative programs um that took an old gas station and turned it into uh electric bike retail site uh to
an old antique mall that's now off office for an executive office and seven other businesses in New Simra who were looking to leave. uh taking an old car dealership, flipping that and turning it into um an office complex. Uh so many
different aspects of my career um have been notable. Um and so I apologize uh law again is to go. Sorry about that. >> No problem. >> Okay. >> Okay.
What are some of your skills and or strengths that would help you be successful in this position? >> Sorry, >> just pause for just a minute. I'm sure they're going to be gone in two seconds. >> We get
>> Are you still you ready? >> Sorry about that. Okay. All right. Sorry about that. I'm Could you repeat the question? >> Okay. What are >> what are some of your skills andor strengths that would help you be
successful in this position? >> Absolutely. Um I think generally speaking um my core for is professionalism, productivity, accountability, and integrity. Uh those are the guiding principles throughout my career. I think they're still the same
guiding principles I've had throughout 19 years in different communities and um difficult different um political environments. I've learned to be astute enough to know what what the local politics are. Uh and being able to work with those uh leaders, whether they're
city managers, uh the elected officials, uh to prioritize what those goals and objectives are um for the organization. Um, and being able to take those core forward and implement them uh through the strategic planning process, through
the master planning process, uh, and being able to put forth the timeoriented um, specified results that, um, those elected officials, the city management can get behind, the community can get behind uh, and make a difference. I
think those are things that, you know, with governing those four principles, um, they allow me to to be effective and and get things done. >> Identify at least one essential job function of this position which you believe will be the most challenging for
you and how you would overcome it. Um, you know, again, I know it's a small CRA, um, and and at the same time, you know, I've al always worked with, uh, you know, limited resources, limited staff, um, to try to make a difference
in communities. I've done that throughout my career. I've not, you know, um, shine shun away from those type of challenges. Um but I do think when you when you come into an organization regardless of the size of it the CRA size or the budget size uh
you take what you have and you leverage it. Uh that's a key thing in CRA work is you have to leverage uh what you have. You have to be fiscally responsible look at what you can do and do it um with excellence. So I think that's one of the things that you know will be a challenge
will be the fiscal constraints um you know but you work around that but again you leverage the resources that you have um and I mean leverage I mean you work with those private sector uh partners in the community those community members who are vested in that community and
want to see it grow want to see it you know not necessarily grow fast because I've been in communities where there's not been a desire for overgrowth um they've wanted to keep the community the way it was, which I wish there was an imaginary gate uh to keep certain
groups growth uh trends uh that we could all put in communities where you know, hey, it's enough growth. That doesn't work that way. Um but in a way in the same in the same way um the springs it own unique community u but it also like many other Florida communities is
looking to grow and expand. Uh, and you have to be able to talk with your constituents, talk to the community about what that growth looks like, what growth you'll have that is sustainable that that causes your community to be resilient, especially there in the
panhandle. Um, that's that's, you know, has the potential for, you know, as we know, every hurricane season is always on edge of your seat. Um, but those those are things that I think would be challenges is how you continue to sustain and grow your economy at the same time keep your identity. uh as the
community. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Currently, >> currently there are several CRA projects already in place. >> If select >> If selected, how would you manage these projects to ensure they're all successful?
Well, first of all, um you know, you you come in and you realize you assess what's already underway, what's in progress, uh what's already been completed, and you and you try to pick the ball up and run with it. Um kind of like, you know, um when you have
football, you know, you have you have different um um points of where you got to pick the ball up and run. And so that's basically what you have to do uh is come in and and obviously be a quick learner and and adapt to a new environment, learn new people, um
utilize the resources you have, leverage the resources that you have, uh and move each project forward. But I think you know when you understand where the budget is, I think the budget oftent times will dictate what projects move faster than others uh as well as what
opportunities are there faster than others. So when you start talking about incentive programs, how can you um possibly look at maybe some possible revisions to that to make more of an inroads? Again, you're working with a, you know, a set time uh of of performance where where the community
wants has expectations, you as a body have expectations uh that are coming from the community. And so being able to balance that out um are would be key ways and and just you know again prioritizing based on where the budget is, what opportunities are currently
existing uh and moving things forward. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um how would you address situations where council members are unsupportive or oppositional towards a CRA project?
Okay. Um, you said we're commissioners are word. I apologize. >> Unsupportive or oppositional toward a project. >> Yes. I I think I think obviously that that's more of an educational conversation before meeting even takes
place that you're having opportunity uh in in in observance of the sunshine law and you're having uh good one-on-one conversations with those board members with who have questions. I think you know you don't necessarily have to get to an unsupported position uh if you're
properly given the information and even if there is information provided prior to a meeting or prior to a decision needing to be made by the body I think that individual conversation there can be some ideas some maybe alternative solutions uh presented uh and shared and
then openly discussed once it's appropriate at that body meeting um but I think it's generally trying to give the best um agenda item or agenda a decision for that that body to make from the beginning. So they're not putting the position where they don't support it
because of this that and the other but because they see the value in it um you know whether that's coming from a local constituent or maybe that that individual body member's um perspective of of the project or the item. Um, I've learned, for example, in my career
working with with local, you know, having those one-on-one conversations answers a lot of questions. I've never been anywhere where I've not had questions raised by that that governing body about a particular project. Uh, but I'm having those conversations initially
uh with the permission uh you know that that with with the caveat that you know there's an understanding of why that that um person has that perspective. uh and being able to provide a good professional response and and professional guidance uh as to why that
position um should be supported versus not supported. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Citizens of Definiac Springs are diverse group with a wide range of perspectives. >> Have you ever found yourself in a situation where two people expected you
to take opposing sides on the same issue? And if so, how would you handle it? >> Absolutely. >> What did you handle? Sorry. >> Absolutely. That that >> unfortunately that's happened more than once. I like to say
um but I think you know when when you have opposing sides I think again you know in the proper context of time when if it's a private citizen and an elected official who have opposing sides uh because oftent times you'll have that dynamic or you may have members of the
board that are opposed to how something gets done. Um, generally I think that's that's something where maybe it's it's a point where you have some type of workshop or some type of consensus building workshop where you can have a conversation about what the issues are
and professionally you take that time to um, you know, have that discussion there and an open discussion that that way or uh, somehow in in private you you meet with those sides and you have good conversation about what what the project
or what that particular issue is uh and you come out with some type of consensus that way. Um but I think either workshop would be a good platform for that when you have opposing sides to have open discussion and that you know it's open dialogue where you're able to get professional input and guidance or you
have like I said you get together with those individually with those sides and try to work out some consensus around ideas of what um you know would be most appropriate uh for a project. For example, um we had, you know, differences of
opinion even in New Simra Beach about certain aspects of the CRA and and there was a certain time limit on certain things. Uh from time to time, we would have, you know, neighborhood groups in conflict with what the CRA board decided to do for program funds. You know, they
felt like there should be more funding. uh and it's me having a conversation with the opposing side to say hey look this is why we are limiting the funds this time around but next fiscal year we'll try something different. Um so again just being able to work through
you know by having those conversations with those opposing sides and again with the theme of we need to build consensus uh and we can do that like I said in those those methods that I mentioned. >> Thank you. Thank you. describe a mistake you made in the
previous role and the steps you took to address it. >> I'm sorry didn't catch the first part of that. I apologize. >> Describe a mistake you made in a previous role and the steps you took to
address it. >> Absolutely. Well, um there was a um was a a scenario in New Simra I can think of um right off the top that um we had a mural project um that was born out of at
the time it was a a DEI group that was formed by the city manager there. Um but anyway, it was it was one of those kind of um projects that had mixed reviews in the community to be quite honest. Uh if you come if you ever been to New Simra
Beach, there's a bridge uh the MLK bridge and underneath that bridge are fish. Uh it's like a mural of of aquarium fish. Uh you know that something was done back in the '9s, I believe. So, it's something that's been there for quite some time and it created
quite a bit of controversy because of it was a person in my office uh who proposed an idea as part of that committee um to do another updated fresh uh community mural. Um, and it got a lot
of push back uh from from constituents in the community mainly because there were people who had done the project initially, remembered the project, it was sentimental to them. Um, and then you also had a side of it where, you know, why can't we just freshen up
what the the existing mural is versus changing it all out and doing something totally different? Um we had at least two u publicized community meetings to talk through what the the concept would even be. It was
just an idea that that we vetted that we had two public meetings about. We then took those ideas to the commission. Um, however, we were then, you know, directed to try to come up with a with a better plan of of being able to relocate
that project or that proposed idea uh to another part of the city. Um, we did that, did more community meetings, brought in more community players, and you know, again, the project did not proceed. Um and I think if I had in
retrospect even though it wasn't my specific project was a person in my office um it was something where you know they were you know simply trying to do a community-based project with with no mal intent um but just something that kind of would be a unifying project for
the community um regardless of their background or demographic status or whatever. Um, and so, you know, the truth of the matter was, you know, it was something that was too controversial to move forward with. I think in hindsight, again, you know, maybe, you
know, pulling working with that side a little bit, maybe not giving up so easy on that, uh, might have been another strategy. Um, was it something that was going to be a taxable value ad to the community? No, it was it was more of one of those, you know, intangible type
community projects, just a feel-good project um for the city and the community to revisit. But again, it didn't go anywhere. Um and I think one of the challenges was, you know, maybe we needed more time. Maybe we need more time to kind of work through some of the
challenges, some of the issues um that that you know were reservations for the for the leadership, but also what reservations there were with the community and maybe come up with some alternative project altogether beyond a mural. Uh maybe there could have been other projects done. Um but that that's
that's a project that that was controversial that you know I would say like I said we would probably approach that differently. uh even though we did feel like we did enough vetting with the community and and you know giving good options uh to the body, I feel think
that there may have been other ways in which we could have you know worked a little bit more on that and maybe got to a better more consensus based project. >> Thank you. Okay. How would you manage political pressures that may arise in connection
with projects associated with this position? Well, again, I have had the privilege of working in in two extremes of the political sphere. Uh, and so I understand, you know, my role as a professional is not to be, you know, a a
politician. Uh my role is to be more so um a you know you know neutral astute uh professional um and not not plate to one side or the other but really lay forth the professional facts of the project or
particular idea um appointed or hired individual of a local government to play the political game. Um I I respect you know the politics around it and and can understand and and navigate the complexities of that but
only within the professional context that I'm given uh and that I'm charged with. Um so I have learned throughout my career regardless of the politics around a project around a community around an organization uh how to work together with either
either political viewpoint or perspective to again build consensus. It goes back to building consensus and partnership uh and and understanding someone else's points of view sometimes but at the same time keeping it professional keeping it
focused on the project finding you know solutions where there are agreeable solutions and moving forward from there. Thank you. >> Um, in what way should the city council and county commissioners coordinate their roles concerning the CRA to
fulfill their responsibilities and their goals? >> Absolutely. We had plenty of circumstances like that. For example, here in New in the New Smart Beach area in Valuchia County. Um, you know, really it all comes down to communication. Uh, communicating the winds. You know, here
in in in, uh, the New Simrna Beach area, you know, with Valuchia County, we advertised, you know, because it was a it was more of a collaboration. Um, you know, the project was seen as as a city county um, based project and not just a
city project. So, we invited the county, we invited their leadership, we invited their elected officials to be a part of celebrating the wins. um you know, even being participatory in the in the uh strategic planning process, the the the updated planning process and really
keeping them informed, keeping them engaged, coming to the council meeting and talking about specific projects um and really giving them insight and information and broadening um their information about what's happening in the CRA, what are the positives about
the CRA. again the more allies uh that the CRA has between its local body with the city and also with the county um it it this the better um because again that's one of the challenges that most CRAAS are facing around the state uh is the transparency
is accountability um you know what they're being used for they being used for slush funds or what are they being used for so again you know keeping the communication open with those decision makers uh at the city and county um continue to make those
progressive, you know, pro, excuse me, progress type oriented reports uh that show the progress, show the successes um so that they're they're more ready to continue to keep supporting it, encouraging it, uh and even being their own your own u you know, promoters of
it. Um you know, as you're having those conversations with decision makers of companies or businesses or property owners, you can say, "Hey, we did this, we did that." and you know being able to provide those reports I think that's key um you know the transparency of that and
uh I think that that that makes it a lot easier um and it has made it easier throughout my career working with cities and counties um you know together on on CRAAS to make sure they're aware and I think communication has been key uh to continue to keep that support uh and
encourage that for it. >> Okay. >> All right. So, uh how do you envision the CRA in the next five years? >> And the next question would be, do you see yourself being a part of it then?
>> Absolutely. Um I think you know the CRA in general um is traditionally a place where you want to see growth, you want to see expansion um and and I think in in five years you should be able to see a more mature CRA
that's got more value that's added value um and and been successful that that has grown respect and reputation in the community of being fiscally responsible and being productive. ive uh being accountable, you know, really um making
a difference in DeFoniac Springs um and really making um awards, you know, seeking awards because, you know, the Florida Redevelopment Association has awards and I'm competitive. You know, I want to see the the CRA be successful and get the accolades
um you know, that it that it can have, you know, to be recognized by other CRAAS across the state for success. Uh, so I want to see an award-winning CRA that that that is looked at as a benchmark, you know, among other CRAAS throughout the the uh state and a model,
if you will, um, and and being a part of that. >> Why should we consider you for this position over the other applicants? >> Absolutely. That's a great question and I'm sure you have some very outstanding candidates u for this position. Um, and
you know, one of the things that I would say primarily is is my core four are my core four and and and you know, professionalism, productivity, accountability, integrity are my main stays. Uh, if you're looking for someone that's professional, you're looking for someone that's going to be accountable to you as a board and uh person that's
that's of integrity and that's going to be professional, um, then I'm then I'm your candidate. uh you're looking for someone that is going to, you know, be innovative and think outside the box and not be limited uh by what has been done before or how we've
done it before, but looks for creative ways that are within means. um you know to do uh to make those efficiencies and effective uh processes as you know um you know governments are having to adapt uh through an age of technology and
advancement and how we can better use that if we're not going to add staff how have excuse me add staff you know maybe there's a chance for us to add you know more um more in in the form of technology how do we better use that to
to evaluate valuate the performance of the CRA or use it to be more efficient in how we deliver services and programs for the CRA. So I think um you know that that is the difference between me and maybe other candidates you know who are who are used to CRAAS and CRAAS is a is
a special skill set and I and I've worked in different communities you know of different sizes. I I understand, you know, you know, small communities and large communities. Um, and so being able to adapt to that and being able to still provide and produce uh certain results,
I think would be key. >> If selected for this position, what what circumstances might colle elsewhere? >> Um, that's a good question. I've never had that one asked before.
Well thought out. Um I will say I mean that's a good one. Um but no I I would say really it all comes down to the relationship, the working relationship. You know it's not just about you know what most people make it about which is money. Obviously you don't you know
everyone needs to earn a living and and do what they do but I think it all comes down to relationship and respect. Um, one of the challenges that you have oftentimes in this line of work is either underappreciation, you know, for that professional, you know, disrespect of that professional,
you know, um, you know, not treating that that professional fairly for whatever reason. And so when you find an organization that has leadership and especially especially in this setting of a public sector, when you have elected officials who are supportive of staff
and understand what staff is is is challenged with and charged with and respects that enough to work with staff and work with this work with that professional, I think that makes a difference from any other opportunity that may be out there or whatever. I
think at the end of the day, if there's respect and there's good working relationships there, I think you can get anyone to stay anywhere where they feel valued and they feel respected uh for the work that they do. Uh because not only is it a professional sacrifice of actually, you know, going somewhere
sometimes, but it's also a personal one. Um because a lot of times you're taking work home, you know, whether you could be home and be present there and you're trying to balance out your day to be productive as possible. And so I think if you have a organization who understands that and is willing to have
that support and at the same time you know be supportive of of of uh what that what that individual brings to the table what they can do for the community and what they are doing um I think that makes a difference um you know when it comes to decisions.
>> That was my question. Oh, I thought I was like, I didn't I thought I was >> I'm in a break. Um, so what is your desired salary and is selected for this position? When would you be able to start?
>> Um, well, I would like to unless you absolutely need an answer today. I think that would be based on a conditional job offer and um just negotiating that process. As far as a salary is concerned, as far as a start date, um certainly could start um you know
definitely by the first of the year being that we're coming into you know the middle of this month and obviously transitioning from one part of the state to the other is not uh easy to do. Um and being able to find somewhere that's suitable in that in that area obviously
that would be one commute. So that would be a key part. um and um being able to uh start at least around the first of the year after a reasonable short period of time um in January. You know, we could work out the details of
the date, but I'd want to start it at the beginning in January and and certainly start at the beginning of a pay period uh in in January. >> All right, last question is before we conclude, do you have any questions for this board?
>> Yes, I do. So what what is your you know expectation of this individual in the first 100 days as far as what do you feel that that they should accomplish that would would you know give you comfort in in the decision that you made
anybody feel my thoughts are comfortable with that >> um I think execution of the projects that have already been committed would be execution implementation. Uh we've got several several multi-year projects that
are we are in the planning phase on uh I think beyond that it would be the procurement of hopefully some more projects. It would be you know uh working towards making sure we're aligned with the city council uh to to
get these things done. Uh, one being a new or a renovated or new fire department, which uh that's that's a project that the city council has to really take the first step on if they want to um continue to for it to be a
city-run fire department. Um we're hopeful that it will. I think I think this board is we'd like to do the renovations of the fire department, but we can't do anything with that until we know from the city that that's that's within what they want to do moving
forward because it is a major expense. Uh I think uh you know Josh has done a great job with these grants uh and uh I think it's real important that we continue that and part of that is getting out in the community and you know I think you know you have to be
part of the community. You can't just sit in an office and uh you know hope people are going to come to you. Uh so I think that's my view and anybody else has anything to chime in on it ask please give him your view
>> able to make sure we get these projects going so that you know they don't just sit there and we end up losing all the time and you know the money that we put forth to to the project. We've spent quite a bit of money on uh studies and
everything else and you know, we want to make sure that that money was gone to good use. >> Yeah. I think what we to add to Kathy what she's saying, which is spot on, you know, if we don't show what the CRA is doing, I don't think the CRA will be
along around for long. So, we want to make sure that we are truly getting these projects done which are going to be catalyst for the city of DeFi extreme. >> Okay. And I guess I'm sorry. >> Any other questions?
>> Yeah. And I guess my my second question would be how would you describe your relationship with the current uh director and um would you that that's the second question. >> I think we all have a good relationship
with him. I don't know. >> This is a >> this isn't a situation where he's even because he's fired. >> Yeah. Right. >> He was not getting fire burned. He loved us. But >> uh and I think I think it's a great relationship. And piggybacking off of
your first question, I think a continuation of the momentum Josh has put us in is is what we're looking for. And uh he's real informative. We know exactly what's coming up and the discussion points and I'd say it's a great relationship and the chance the
next person has an opportunity to bend his ear, I would suggest they do. been very accessible to us as well as members of the community and he will go to the members of the community which is uh they don't necessarily always have to
come to him but that's a good thing about people like that. >> Yeah, we've been very pleased with Josh's work working with him and everything. So we hate to have him go but you know he did what was best for him and his family. We totally
understand that and respect that. And so, uh, we look forward, like Brute was saying, to somebody, you know, picking up the mantle and running with it. You know, use your analogy to run with the ball. So, >> Okay. >> Absolutely.
>> Any other questions? >> Uh, not at this time. >> Okay. Well, thank you so much for your time. We appreciate it. And, uh, anything else you need we need to say here? I mean if you are selected for the
position then I would go over benefits and at that time they're the ones that decide this hour >> absolutely and I want to thank you appreciate the accommodation um and especially with the different time zone here um so the sun is going down a
little bit here earlier so uh but um yes thank you very much and I appreciate the consideration and and the conversation today as Well, I know this is an important position uh for the city um and excuse me the CRA to to uh and as
to the benefit of the city um to move forward. So, thank you for your time and for your consideration today. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you. >> Great night. >> Thank you. Did he ever say that bring back direct?
>> Did he say what about >> questions? No. Any of your questions you asked him? It's always a oneman show or was it I would come to you ever question and what do you ask that question?
>> There's no question that could have come back to Well, I don't know how I handle that. get back my >> he mentioned doing a set of prior positions. >> Yeah, I think what he did that's talking about >> that's the last one.
>> I think it's better. Is this We got one more. Is this virtual? >> No, no, that's that's the only Zoom. Yeah, >> right. Right. >> Can we have to wait till 4 was here? >> Good. Good.
Yes, please. >> Exactly. I looked at that. It's like, man, we going to order some Chinese or something. >> Two more. Nothing. >> Glad we did it early, man. We'd be here all night. >> What a How's the process work for?
>> Well, this says this this this clearly You know, you can write down whatever you want or not, but at the end of it, you have to sign it and you know, it says I would or I wouldn't. Like, does that I'd ask Julie can, you know, what
if we what if we decide we don't want to vote tonight? We want to vote at the next meeting. Is that okay? Do we need to vote tonight? >> That's just I mean, I feel >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm just curious. I just didn't know. I know it's public record, so you know,
Yeah, >> I like this. I think it's a great format. I'm just saying I'm just curious. We just go, okay, we're going to take it all into account, but we're not going to vote for the meeting, which is in like a week or so. When is the meeting last? So,
>> just wanted to make sure that that was >> Oh, we'll take the vote next week, correct? >> Well, it's it's entirely up to this board. If you all wanted to make that decision or not and move that forward, we can do that. You want to think about it some more, we can certainly do that as well. From my view. >> Okay.
>> Yeah. I I mean, if y'all have a burning desire to, I mean, like it's only a week till the next meeting, so I was just thinking it might just be a little easier, but I don't carry the way. >> Depends on too how long he's in. John
come on and get my biggest concern off. They had 10 days to get here. >> When do you leave? >> My my official last day is December the 5th. I will be actually out on leave the
previous week. So, my last physical day will be that week of >> next week. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, if we wanted to go ahead and pull the trigger today, it might give them some more lead time. >> I guess we can wait till all of them are
done and then check it out at that time. >> Yeah, we'll talk about it. >> If we can get this rolling, I think it' be good. >> Yeah, >> because that is a good idea. uh you know if we do decide to you know make a decision at a few days with the uh
former director. >> Yeah, I think it would be helpful. >> Yeah. Yeah, that would >> Are you going to be somewhat available? I know you got another job, but I mean like >> they said volunteer Saturdays and Sundays to come back up. >> I want to see.
>> All right, >> that's good. The good news is you're here. You will please state your name. >> Thank you, Mr. Washington. Um Julie, you'll start. >> What we're going to do
questions really fast. So if your question was ask I'll do my best you get email. >> All right. So I'm going to start with prior to this interview. I can email you a copy of the job description. Do you
understand the essential functions of this position? >> Are you able to perform the physical demands of this position? >> Good. What research did you do prior to your interview about springs, the CRA,
and the current projects? went online Facebook as well as some projects that you have completed and have in place um such as the amphitheater that's here tomorrow afternoon well tomorrow evening that we have for our spent
soliciting input such as design for the if you want open concept if you want coverage different types But I haven't seen a lot of it. So I guess
also I see you done some work on your underground structure such upgrades and things like that in the downtown area and also I see where they've done some
or homes for people landscaping upgrade. >> Thank you. >> So please explain to the board the function of the CRA.
Well, the function of the CR here is um as far as the revitalization of springs um from the research I've done, they're saying 7% of the city is saying
>> Oh, okay. Hey, I'm sorry. Tell the board why you think it's important for C exist. >> Well, it's extremely important for CR to exist because they have to bring awareness. um me that growing up whenever I would come through
things of that nature as I return here today I look at I don't I haven't going down Highway 90 everything looks good but we actually get off the area
thank What aspects of the CR position to you? >> Um, the aspects of the CR is the revital. Thank you. Uh what do you view as the main challenges or opportunities facing
our city as it relates to the CRA awareness um acceptance meaning that they know about the CR saying no. And then they're very
skeptical because they said, "Well, you guys are willing to do XYZ. What kind of lean you want to put on my property?" So, it's you're going to have to, you know, bring about the awareness and comfort
project forward. So tell us about your education and train background and previous work experience that you believe qualifies you for this position. >> Um education Lord I have
has come from building side and other companies out just building that site so that you ensure that all the fees are covered bad guys social security posture things of
that nature um in I got the GBA So we have 21,000. >> What is the ex >> I didn't know. >> I knew what it was.
>> And one of the biggest challenges that we had was our infrastructure just like we got this um old equipment pumps on our water would go out so we would you have to get
wipe off resupply water things of that nature until we get our parts in for stuff like that aside from that back in the US I think that
research. >> All right. Um, what are some of your skills and or strengths that would help you be successful in this position? >> Um, I am extremely versatile. I I have dealt with many
organizations list of course have overseas different embassies so fast DCM all those individuals that's second nature um the
civil affairs group overseas meeting with local governments um in order to do contracts and we would help revitalizate rev rev revital renovate and things of that nature bring them up
to and I'm extremely diverse. >> Okay, thank you. >> Identify at least one essential job function of this position which you believe be the most challenging for you
and how you would overcome it. >> Um, from what I've read, I can't really say that I see that will be challenged. Uh currently there are several CRA projects already in place. If selected,
how would you manage these projects to ensure they're all successful? >> Well, I normally do uh whenever I come to the chair, um I do a straw man. >> Do a straw man. >> Yes, a straw man. >> Oh,
okay. A straw man. A there's the project. B my timeline for completion and What I do is I just draw minutes every bi-weekly or monthly. I'm going to let you know exactly where
we're at. Um, and what I always try to do is I always try to come have a schedule on the budget. And so with the straw man, the board can look and see exactly where all projects are at at any time. And you'll know that
on this specific date when you have an update. So you can just look online and see exactly where we're at in any type of construction. >> Please forget >> that's okay. How would you address the situation
where council members are unsupportive or oppositional towards a CRA project? >> Well, you would need to find out um what the issue is. There has to be an underlying issue because they come up with conventional business state. Well,
then there has to be an underlying issue why they're um they're about. So what you need to do is sit down and find out okay what's the underlying issue here? How can we resolve it? Are
you put on hold to a future date? Citizens of DFAC Springs are diverse group with a wide range of perspectives. Have you ever found yourself in a situation where two people expected you to take opposing sides on the same
issue? And if so, how did you handle? That seems to be a reoccurring issue. So that's the way I handle stuff like that. I know this is who I am and I can listen
to both sides and so that both individuals agree to disagree. But guess what? The main objective is to move the project forward. We can't sit there and be held up because
you'll try to talk clearly your mics for us. >> Okay. >> All right. This Describe a mistake you made in a previous role and the steps you took to address it. that
first one he always said let me know when you land before I so if I will be up at the general's office somewhere and I see that I made a mistake the very first person I was
going to go to was sir I stepped in it but I corrected this is what I had to do correct and um at his retirement he made that's one thing we always say you know
what I never stepped on >> so the thing is awareness if you you something. It's best to go with it because if you let it faster, it's only going to get worse. >> How would you manage political pressures
that may arise in connection with projects associated with this position? >> Well, political pressure situations know MCI and that's Navy
at that particular time project. So all the us like sir I understand that's a great idea. know
how it sess because you know in about three or four years leadership >> in what way the city council and county commissioners coordinate their roles concerning the CRA to fulfill their responsib and
>> what should >> in what way should the city council and county committee coordinate their roles concerning the CRA to reveal their responsibilities and >> the CRA and those guys
because their role is their constituents their role is to ensure that the quality material they can provide to
go ahead with their All right. How do you envision the C? How do you envision the CRA in five years? And do you see yourself being a part of it then?
>> Um, I've been the CR in five years. going out and just seeing the change that you make, progress you make. I would like to see horseback
carriage rides. I would like to see movies. I would like to see where it would be a family environment down at the theater, but also historic to bring about
businesses there family where family would want to come and that would be that hard for this position over others. I am one that dependable and I'm one
that follow direction. If selected for this position, what circumstances might cause you to seek opportunities else to ensure that throughout the day, throughout the years, I do very best to
achieve all goals. Okay, thank you. >> Um, so with that, what is your desired salary? If you are selected for the position, when would you be available to start? >> My desired salary would be that
one thing com. Okay. Um before we conclude, do you have any questions for the board? All right. Thank you very much. >> Yes, sir. >> We appreciate you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> If you like take a 10 minute recess. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Well, we got one more. >> We got one more. >> Okay. Wouldn't it be ideal if you get in here? >> Sure would. >> Yes, I should have asked him. I guess.
You ready to start? >> Yes. >> Got a boy that's u playing at in the basketball the high school and they got a you know got practice at 5 today. So, I'm trying to get the coordinator to get him something to eat first and then get
him cuz you know these kids. Oh my god. >> They sure can, man. >> Gav. All right. 420. All right. We're ready. Um, uh, if you would, please state your name. Rob Hamilton.
>> We're going to do this where Julie's going to ask a question. I'm going to 20 questions. All right. >> So, um, prior to the interview, oh, let me say sometime question.
>> Um, so prior to the interview, you will email a copy of the job description. Do you understand the essential functions of this? >> Are you able to position? Okay. What rece what research did you do
prior to your interview about the Phoenix Springs the CRA and the current projects? >> Well, luckily I've had people serving on the board now. So, a lot of my research was done once I've cons been through what challenges we face and
then obviously now, you know, being very proactive and talking to the community and city council. >> How long have you been on the board? >> Please explain to the board the function of the The CRAAS were created in Florida under
statute 163 section 3. They were created to eliminate flight and to help increase property values in their district. All right. Tell us tell us why you think it is important for a CR to exist.
>> I think series are import. because we have opportunities that some municipalities otherwise would not have with these this tax money that we can fund that they're not able to. I think it also allows for us to be able connected to the community
for city councils and commissioners have enough on their plate. So having a separate agency that can tackle all these projects, focus on the things, focus on the community, focus on people and not just things getting done. I think that's great. What aspects of the CR position appeal
to you? >> Honestly, I'm going to go back to the connections. I love being connected to this community. I've lived all over the world. I've lived all over the United States and this is the first place I've ever wanted to call home. Um, so really for the CRA to have an agency that can
help redevelop and reinvest into our community and help it grow but still maintain the historic thing that they so for me it's really about the connection community and things. Okay. What do you view as the main challenges or opportunities facing our
CRA as it relates to the CRA facing our Let me rephrase this. What do you view as the main challenges or opportunities facing our city as it relates to the >> I think one of the biggest challenges we have right now is lack of information or
misinformation. Um unfortunately social media is a powerful tool and problem with that isn't used by anybody. So there's a lot of misinformation out there about what the CRA is, what it can do, what it can't do. Uh so I think that also kind of creates the opportunity for
us to engage more workshops, more social media folks, more visual things so we can capture that 3 to seven Facebook and realistically I think we have a lot of opportunities right now with some of our current
projects to create longlasting change to help a secure act for the future and possibly create some more for example. >> Tell us about your educational background and previous experience
qualified for this position. >> I have two bachelor's degree, one in biology, one mathematics. I also hold over 102 other certifications. So I think the focus for me is on I love to seek out information. I love
having facts. I feel like that helps with this position in particular a lot. I've also have experience as a budget communication specialist for the Florida clerk support operations corporation. We resolve the budget for all 67 counties in the state of Florida. We also had to coordinate with the clerks for all 67
counties in the state of Florida. That experience helps a lot with this position being able to coordinate with our board, the city council, with the public, with the different areas of the city uh that are helping us with these
projects. And you know, realistically, again, I'm going to go back to the connections. So, I think my my background really focuses on service. most of the job I've had. I've started three nonprofits. I've started on my own business at this point. Other people
start businesses. I'm all about certific. >> What's certifications? >> Um there are there's some on my resume. There's I have a spreadsheet, but it goes everywhere from personal training certifications, computer background,
um programming background. I have certifications for drug add counseling. I have CPR instructor certifications. >> Yeah, it says uh MS office including programs. Okay. It says multiple C
attached. So, is it all these in your resume? There's some res >> but it looks like some were just like for medical and training >> right there's there's a lot of medical ones there office
program so it lets me program spreadsheets to talk to Microsoft talk to Microsoft for example for the Florida Support operations corporation here
crazy it's a very small business but spreadsheets so counties those spreadsheets get filled out sent back to us automatically put into a folder and then those that one spreadsheet from each county is multiple spreadsheets I think multiple reports
When I started there, I was actually a temp and by the time I left, they eliminated two positions and made me the senior budget analyst because I was able to kind of make the work a lot easier without having to sit there der.
>> Okay. What are some skills and or strengths that you that would help you be successful in this position? I think my my strengths specifically for this position is the ability to make connections, the ability to educate,
ability to be calm and have conversations with people who don't agree. Um, now I've worked my way into getting support from all five city council members, whether they agree or not. All five of them reason. Uh but I'm
able to talk to almost anybody and have clear concise conversations to educate them enough toward you know for example parking probably right now that a lot of that took me going to each council member one by one and explaining why it was beneficial why the why it made sense
to do it from a cost benefit analysis perspective. even as far as printing out the dimensions of a parallel parking spot perpendicular parking spot to explain when a perpendicular going across you're doing 12 in versus perpendicular using 9
that's why we have more so I think my strength come back to be able to make the connections and be able to explain things very >> okay >> Identify at least one function of this position you believe will be most challenging for
you and how would you overcome it? >> Honestly, actually I talked to Josh about this before but I don't know but public speaking I do not like public groups I like one-on-one conversations a lot in reality the best way to do that
to get better at it is to do it. So one of the ways I do that now is I sing at my church my pastor once a while I study or come up and share my testimony, things like that. But reality is it's going to be the experience of having to go to city council and present things
that you guys have all agreed on to them or even in the future there's things that we have to get county approval for going to present that. Okay. Currently there are several CRA projects
already in place. If selected, how would you manage these projects to ensure they are all successful? >> Like I think the benefit again is I've already been on the board, so I know the projects. I know where to go. The projects steps have been completed. I've been spending a lot of time with Josh
lately trying to see where we're at with those projects and what the next steps are from his end. Trying to make transition as smooth as possible. Um morality I think it's going to be a lot of continue what Jos has already been doing been very transparent he's been
communicating every step of the way so I think we can continue to do that if we can you know continue to have conversation with the board and get to a point where we agree >> thank you >> I want to address the situation where council members are unsupportive or
oppositional towards a CR project. >> So just to clarify that question, we talking city council members or we talking workers. >> Um so I think again some of what I've already been doing is having conversations oneon one and then listening to their point of
view. I think a lot of times we get so stuck on trying to prove a point or prove that we're right that we don't listen. I think there's a lot of power in being able to listen to somebody hear the point of view and be able to use that to get them where they can get on board some of these projects. Again, the parking
situation is a perfect example of that of know there's there's at least to them that I had to go back and explain. You know, the center line can do what it needs to. This is how we're getting spaces. This is why it's safe. So having those conversations and being open is
very important. But I also think it's very important to make sure that if that comes up that is brought back to the board to have that conversation so that we as a board can have a consensation. I think it's important that the board
conversations All right. Sitting at the citizens of the Phoenix bring their diverse group the wide range of focus. Have you ever found yourself in a situation where two people expect you to take opposing sides of the same
issue? And if so, how did you handle? >> Yes. Um actually again on this board with the fire department. So I had you know one citizen who's very pro we have to keep this fire department this
is why this is how it feel this this is all the points and we have another citizen who was very adamant that the only way forward was to have to kind of take over the way I approached that for that situation was I'm waiting to get all the facts right we don't know what that
looks like then so for me it's important again to clearly communicate, make sure we're talking about facts, not evidence. We need to stop worrying about who's right and worry about what's right. But we can't do that without facts. So, presenting
those facts clearly having conversations with each of them. Uh, but also I make it very clear to everybody I talk to, including city council. I'm not on anybody's side or anybody's pocket. I don't I don't pick sides for any situation. I have ideas and I have
opinions, but other than I'm on your side. It's more of a again what's right about worry about describe a mistake you made from the previous step took it.
>> Okay. So going back to the equip operations corporation um when we were rolling out the spreadsheets there were there were some joints and part of that problem was there was one line of code
on one of the 27 pages of that spreadsheet that were messing up the calculations. We didn't catch that mistake for two months. So we had to go back fix the fix the pro uh programing and then send it
back out to the counties with the corrected numbers so they can correct their the problem that that created was it creates budget issues. So it's like we had an issue with the city where you know money that was supposed to be set aside wasn't set aside correctly and they were back corrected and that
created some problems this year. So similarly when you start messing with spreadsheets that messes with those numbers messes with the budget. So a lot of that was I I actually went to it was 37 those counties personally and
help them write their budget. Uh but again, it goes back to communication and being able to admit, hey, I made a mistake. Here's how we fix them. And one of the things I learned from the military is I don't come with problems unless I have a solution. So that's for me it's important to make a mistake, be
able to have a mistake and being able to have a solution to fix or correct. Okay. How would you manage political pressures that's militarilized in conjunction with projects associated with this position?
>> I think the CR was rated to be an agency and the problem with that is a lot of these projects and again we have fire department one to use as an example come with political pressure. I'm going to go back This is where we need to focus on facts. This is where we
need to take the emotion out of it. We need to present facts. We need to have conversations with everybody. We need to make sure that we're very clear that, you know, we're we're not taking a side. We are doing what's right. We're being responsible stewards with taxpayer
dollars that we're responsible for and make sure the most out. But the the fun part about this commission is unfortunately they're not. So you have to know how to have
conversations. That's where back to you have to know how to listen. So be able to listen to people hear their point of view. Um you know both sides of the political argument and then again present facts to both the sides
that >> Thank you. In what way should the city council and county commissioners coordinate their roles concerning the CRA to fulfill their responsibilities and goals?
So I think um really yeah just having more communication so more joint workshops making sure we're very clear with the direction that we're headed the uh decision that we made as a board and presenting those as you know what we'd
like to do and being able to listen to feedback without taking person but again I think it's important I mentioned this at a city council meeting I think important to have more than one joint city council meeting a year. We've
had one in the six months. I would love to see that happen at least quarterly. And realistically, I think it's also important once we start getting these projects completed or even we get them started with dirt to invite the city council and the county
commissioners to those those groundbreings and those ribbon cutings because I think a lot of times we forget about especially the county side here because we're we're in the city mostly funded by the city but the county does contribute. So I think it's important
that we keep them involved as well. Okay. >> How do you envision the CRA in five years? And do you see yourself being part of it? >> Uh, the last part of that question is easy. I'm not going anywhere. Um, this is my home. I'm part of the CRA, whether
it's as executive director board member or somebody sitting in the audience being conscious that I'm not going anywhere. Now, as far as where we're going to be at in five years, I think a lot of the times we have started within five years,
we're going to be moving on. We're going to be moving on and we'reble to show visible changes and all the work that we've been doing that you guys did before I got on the board and that previous boards have done, we're show visibly to the community. And I really think that's now
create more support. I think the problem we're having now is while we have some some success with the grant programs, the taking down and talking fences and things like that. People want big picture, right? So, they want the amphitheater. They want, you know, we
talked about more at one point. They want fire station fix. They want these big alleyways. They want these things done or they want them started. They want to know when it's going to be done. So, but I think within five years, we're going to be a long way in a lot of our projects. That's when they bought
a lot more support. And honestly, I I still done. There's a possibility that the city can extend because they can they can vote to extend sunset whether it's in the same capacity as now or not is up to them. But I think if we
can create some success with our projects, there's a good chance we're >> considered for this position over the other. I think my biggest strength for this position is local connection local as far as I know I'm the only person
that apply that's from that's living in the Phoenix that has been a part of the CR board that's been coming to city council meetings that's coming meetings um and again the connections I've already created with the city council with county commissioners with you guys
as a board I think that's a very important thing to I think me over anybody else at this point. It's just really more about the smoothest transition. I know I'm more than qualified to do this job. I've got the heart and desire to do it well. Everything I do, I did
120% drive my life. That's good. I don't like 99%. So, I think that's what really really sets me apart. You've selected for this position. What circumstances might cause you to seek opportunity?
I've already got I've already got a business here um that where I do small business consulting other people start businesses but there's nothing that I can see right now that would >> salary selected what would be your available
>> uh I think again in the efforts of making this as easy as possible exactly what Josh has right now I All right. Before we conclude, do you have any questions for this board? >> Yeah, I have one question. Um,
how are you guys as a board going to measure the success of whoever does get this position next? Each person can go down and say how they'd measure the success. >> I mean, not to give Josh a day head like
a place in saving. >> Yeah. But, you know, I I think a continuation of Josh's efforts would be more than successful. >> I agree. continuation proactive uh having a better understanding and a
comm better communication with all entities inside the city and also the county and that's that's one of the things the city of the fac is the county seat and uh but we have to work hand in hand with the uh county commissioners and make sure that all the citizens of
the fac get the best uh opportunities to succeed. So that's what so I support >> I agree with everything that's been said and and I'll just add that I think uh execution and implementation
um I'd say you know speed to mark whatever you want to say you know we need to get these things designed right and completed and we need to show every citizen in the whole county
what the value of the CRA We've all heard and we've been punching bags on this board where all the cra is doing this. Much of it is communication. Much of it is getting in the community and and letting them know what we're doing. But
we are a huge value, not just to this entire region. And I think if we can show these projects that we're designing now and we're getting done and add more and more and more, I mean, I don't know why you wouldn't renew a
CRA if you're a city council person, but I think seeing the results is what I would really measure you by. >> And I have to say that when you the first considering the
um the education is very important because I what little I knew which was a little of I was against them only because of the bad stuff I' heard. course you know that was from the south
and then of course and I we're the originals >> uh it it's grown a lot and um it you know we spent almost what two years of doing nothing because we didn't have
anything to work with and once we were able to get a a director that one person that we could go to and say take care of this and not and some not somebody who we had city managers that were trying to do a job but it's one of the things is
communication letting the public know that what we're doing and uh the difference of how the money that we get versus how we can use it versus how this city council can use it. You know, it's
not like it's, you know, it's still city money. It's just that we're able to with the rules, able to do things with it and get things done that the city council would not be able to. It's the same money, but we get more out of it. Our
citizens to me with the projects, the grants, you know, they're able to benefit from it more, you know. So, and that making sure that the citizens understand what the difference is on how it's the same money. Yeah. What's in this pile
and look what we can Let's put it back over here and see the council what they did with it. >> Yeah. And you know, uh it's some hot topics, you know, with the fire department, uh the amphitheater, the sidewalks. It's
it's hot topics, but we got to be, you know, we just got to be stern and uh fair and balanced because it's just some some amazing times here in the city of Fac. The growth is coming. A lot of people excited and we just got to be
ready to take on the challenge. >> Is that enough? Well, thank you so much. We appreciate it. And uh >> appreciate it. >> I don't know how we want to go. >> Well, I think we can we can just have a discussion. I mean, do y'all there is a value
to go ahead and making a decision now, >> but there's also I don't want to push anybody if you're not comfortable or if you need more time, whatever. Let's just talk about it. I don't >> I'm going to sit.
>> With that being said, I mean, do we do we make a motion? Do we do we do this? Do we do a Well, I've just never done this before. When we hired Josh, we didn't have a a host of candidates. You know, we we really just hired Josh. So,
this is a new process for us and been on the a board when they hired the city manager and the finance, but that was several weeks. Sorry. >> I haven't researched this. I just thought I was going to be one of the questions. Um, but the city manager,
they made recommendations and they had to vote. >> Okay. >> Why don't Why don't we just >> I don't know the rules. I did not >> I mean >> the rules. Is that a question? So, so my my my guidance would be if there's a candidate that you all wish to
move forward with, I think given um that direction uh to the human resources directors to begin that process. Obviously, there's an employment agreement uh that would be required that you all would have to negotiate and approve. So, uh being first step uh in
that selecting a candidate to move forward that process I think is something you guys can certainly entertain. So we could say move forward. This person will ratify it at the meeting. Is that how it would be? >> That's right. So you give direction to to begin those negotiations with the top
ranked candidate, the chosen candidate. Um and then at that point if those terms and conditions could be met with the applicant, it would be brought back to this board for the board to ratify. >> And and I wasn't here when Josh was hired, but I seen emails with all kind of stuff. But I do think that Clay was
involved. I know Lucy was sending the agreement back of the stuff. >> Why don't Why don't should do we want to It's not I mean is this this is a this is a special meeting. It's not a It is a
meeting. It's not a workshop. That's correct. >> But we can take a motion >> if you want. >> Does anyone want to make a motion or how do y'all want to >> I just think the the first gentleman was impressive. Um, but the difference maker to me is what Rob said makes him over the other
applicants and it's swift and continuation of what we're doing >> and smooth transition. >> Smooth transition and someone that is embedded in this community. Letters of recommendation that were attached to his are all people I trust. Um, so if it's appropriate, I would make a motion to
move forward with Rob. >> We got a motion on the floor in a second. Okay. Any discussion? >> Well, It's, you know, it's it's a process that's uh should be simple, you know, cuz time, you know, time t time is
money. I mean, in business, you know, uh and we stonewall and you know, and keep uh tableabling stuff, but while we got the community needs some assistance. So, I'm a I'm a I'm a yes for Rob.
>> Okay. So, so we got discussion. We got a motion in a second. Mr. Mr. Chair, if I may clarify that motion, that that would be to select Mr. Hamilton as your top candidate and those negotiations >> and I would say at the >> the range whatever he specified. Um
so okay, >> got a motion and second. We've done discussion and I'd ask for any public comments on this. >> Okay. Only public comment was a couple of thumbs ups. Uh I'll take a vote. All in favor say I. >> I. All oppose say nay. Motion carries 40
to move forward with Mr. Hamilton >> and chair I will try my best to bring something back. >> Yeah. And I would say um Julie you gonna work with Clay to get to try to work out how y'all will try to figure that out.
>> I would say all the candidates were were sharp candidates though. >> Yeah. I mean I think we were blessed with the >> Yeah, we were very Yeah. Well, the freshman was impressive. No, he was real impressive, but he just is not here. >> I think you're right. That's the biggest thing. >> That's the biggest thing. He was >> I thought the second guy was impressive,
too, because he's like >> boom, boom, boom. He knew his stuff. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He bring that military toughness in for sure. >> Maybe we need to to get an economic development director. One of these guys needs to be a first choice. All right.
Well, uh, if there's nothing else, uh, >> whoever sits there normally closes us with song. No, no, no. Not today. >> Well, by dinner. You You buying dinner, right? >> I'll accept them.