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rise for the question, please. >> Yeah. The United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay, thanks for coming to April's

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meeting. The DA Commission, Jesse Lawyers. >> Thank you. The notice requirements of the open public public meetings act for this meeting have been met by transmitting the notice of the regular meeting to the commissioner's official newspaper on February 12th, 2026,

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posting the notice where required and filing a copy of the notice with the commission clerk. The delay commission meeting will be audio and videotaped and will be shown on APV up to room 77 and throughout most of Mammoth County on FiOS 28. I'd like to welcome our

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official Allen Hurst commissioner John >> Hbury Park Deal >> here. >> Inter Garber >> here. Neptune and Ocean >> here. >> We are going to have to Is that Well, is

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it right? We're gonna with um hold the minutes from the regular meeting of March 19th because Don is the only one that can vote on it and Don and you weren't here last month. >> I didn't hear you. >> Darl wasn't here and Bobby wasn't.

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>> The two of them even though you sure you have the four. >> Oh, okay. Okay. So, >> don't you have a quum? We can vote. >> I didn't know that. >> Yes. >> Someone please offer to approve the minutes. >> I approve. >> Second. >> Move. >> I I second it.

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>> So now I >> All in favor? >> All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Two two. You did it. Planning to understand that. >> Wow. Well, thank you.

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Thank you. And now we have a resolution to approve the treasures report and pay bills. And Marco, you're up. >> Total bond deposit $335,266.38. Total receipts $849.77. Total dispersements $23,8246. Total on deposit is 313,000.

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$2569. >> Wait, someone please offer >> Robin. >> Second. >> Alenhurst. >> Yes. >> Deal. >> Here. >> Interlac. >> Yes. >> Luck Arbor. >> Yes. >> And Ocean.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Don. >> Okay. Open up. Old business. The >> the ever never ending 2022. the D storm water management grant for CVU law and I think we have some good news here Peter

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>> I will start from the beginning I don't want to belabor um things that we've said in the past but I thought it was important since the last two and a half months in particular even more than that we've been spending a lot of time um I'll use the word retrofitting the

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project >> um so what I did is I went back to the beginning when we submitted the grant application because if your memories pale a little bit, June of 2022 is quite a while ago. But that's when we submitted the grant application, got approval for that grant application. We

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were very clear what we wanted to do. It's exactly what we are doing. But along the way, when we submitted our construction plans, which were actually a part of the application, um they were denied by an individual at D in the stormwater management group. And we

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talked about why it's a specific unit that we proposed. The same unit we used on Memorial Drive when we had the kids from Esry Park High School out there and all the pictures are on our website. Same ones we used on Grand Avenue. The same ones I used in Neptune. The same ones with county used all over Wall

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Spring Lake. They put 19 in. Got all got approved by D. Now they're saying they no longer approve these units. So, we um thought that for a little while and then when we realized that they weren't going to budge um

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>> Well, they weren't >> they weren't going to budge and we asked our our political team. Yeah. And they tried and they didn't budge. >> No. So, >> so we had to come up with an alternate solution or give the money back. there were our two options unless we consulted with Paul which was the third option but

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we didn't really want to do that because that's never a positive thing. So what we did is we we no nothing with you is not that's wait a minute let me say that other consulting with Paul is a positive thing

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you know litigating litigating the state of New Jersey may not be okay thank you for clarifying want me to start um so this is what we did we had three Microsoft teams, meetings with high

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ranking officials in the D. We had land use, we had regulatory, we had the chief of staff, we had all these very important people there. And it was very obvious to us, Don was on, I was on, Steve was on, Dave Howard from my office was on. It was very obvious to us that they wanted to resolve this. They didn't

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want to cut us loose. they were kind of not very forceful in supporting the fellow who did that I did but they were representing that we have regulations to comply with so we have to comply with so we went back and with Steve's help and

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Dave Howorth in my office we found another unit that we could use that was on their list that's really only thing they wanted now when Dave and I originally did the design we were told that this unit had to go right on top of the structures that are there now and we couldn't put it offset, which is what we

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wanted to do. We wanted to keep the structures there, offset our unit, run the storm drain into the new unit, clean it, run it into the units that there are now, and then go into the drainage uh area. Um, after we worked a little while, we spent

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more time with the manufacturer and he figured out a way where we could use it as a they call it a diversion. That's what this fellow from D wanted. He wanted the unit we used as a diversion. only bring the volume of flow into the new unit that was generated by the

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drainage area coming in from the sus thread wall parking lot. So we did four of them. Uh when we got the new unit, the cost was about $100,000 a unit versus 60,000 for the ones we wanted to use. So we could only use three. We

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agreed to that. I mean it's the only way to get the project done. Then there is a green infrastructure component to our grant which we were going to use the first the rain gardens and second the vegetative buffer Steve designed. When they did their review and came back to us they want so much new information and

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design for the rain garden. A rain garden is very simply excavate the soil that's there make sure it drains and put in a sand base and a wetlands plantings and Steve's done a hundred of them. did the rain garden in Asbury Park with the D funding. Did the rain garden at Wesley

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Lake with the D funding, >> which looks great. >> Did not require any of this. Now they're requiring probably a couple more months of design and hundreds of thousands of dollars of cost. So we took it out and we said we want to do the the green

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infrastructure component using tree wells like the one we put in Allenhurst. That was a filter unit. Um, so what happened the last time we met with them? They said two things that were very important. We like the way you're going. It looks like you're

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really trying to comply. And oh, by the way, everything has to be done by July 1st. And we said, can't do it. You can't go out to bid in April, receive bids, award a contract, get that stuff made for 8 to 10 weeks, and then put it in.

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It's going to be September. So they said, "Well, that's not acceptable." So they the D came back to us with a very unique offer. Go out to bid for the purchase of the equipment under the grant and have the purchase of the

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equipment completed by July 1. Use the grant money for the purchase which is better for us because we can buy a little bit more and get everything installed. And then July 1st comes hey off the grant we will find another source of funding for you to pay for the installation.

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>> Right. You had that in writing. >> Yes. >> Uh, you know, back and forth, right? Yes, we do. So, that's where we are now. What what Dave Howorth and my office has done is um >> and the and the key for that is nobody wanted to lose

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>> the $900,000 900,000 >> federal money. Nobody wanted to lose it. We didn't want to lose. They didn't want to lose it. So, we came to a a a nice conclusion, I bet. >> Yep. A bid has been advertised for the purchase and delivery of the stormwater management equipment. They're due next

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Friday, I think, in your uh in your room at Ocean Township. It's intended that these units will be delivered and paid for by the July 1st deadline. I'll just tell you two quick things about the design we did. Um, one is we've been in constant contact with

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the manufacturer because what normally happens is we put this out to bid, goes through the bid process, you wait 10 days, you get a low bidder, we wait till we have a meeting, we award the bid, say, "Congratulations, start moving and then they order the equipment." That can

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take weeks, if not a month, a month and a half. We already contacted the manufacturer and told them, "We want you to start work on these right now. We'll guarantee the funding's in place for this because we can." they already gave us $200,000 and um we can move forward that way. So, we've already started that

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uh design process for these units with the manufacturer. The other thing that Dave Power thought of himself is speaking to the manufacturer, which is Old Castle. >> We get that not >> Old Castle Manu. They're concrete fabricators. They make these MTDs.

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>> They also make tree well. >> So, we went to them. It's a better tree well in that it accepts a larger drainage area which the fellow from D was very concerned about and so we put those in our bid spec. So we'll have one manufacturer rather than two that we

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have to wait for and who knows what happens. So that's received next Friday. We'll have to figure out an award, >> right? >> Uh assuming that >> can we do it Friday? >> Funding's in place >> because I'm gone for a week after >> the award on Friday. >> Could we do a but we could do a Zoom?

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>> Can we do a Zoom? We could if if that's acceptable Paul having my own announce meeting we have to announce a special meeting a minimum of 48 hours. >> Yeah we have over a week. So we'll try it. We just need to know. >> Question is what time on Friday. >> Oh but could we do it the f would you be

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available by zoom the following week like Monday? So at least give them a chance to look at >> maybe not. I'll be away in another >> Well, why don't we schedule it and see if we can do it. >> Okay. Uh, we have two interested biders, both of whom bid the last time, both are local, both have worked for the DA

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commission before. >> We have to ward it almost immediately so they can go out and order the items. >> That's exactly what we would do. Yeah. >> Technically, I don't have to be there. >> Well, we're going to do a Zoom. No, you don't have to. We have everybody else.

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>> Yeah. So >> the only thing we need to do is ensure uh the bid docks are complied with by the biders and that the funding is less than the grant amount. And we were very careful in the bid. We did a base bid of

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three MTDs and three tree wells and an alternate bid for a second MTD or fourth MTD and a fourth tree well. We didn't want to run the risk of going over. So the only possible

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not a delay but review is compliance with the bid docs and deciding on the bid amount. >> It is it possible to do a lunchtime meeting? >> Well, they're just they're just accepting the we're getting the bids at 10. >> At 10. So when would you be ready? When

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would you be ready to to to propose it to us? >> Next Wednesday. >> Um I think they have to look at >> after afternoon probably. You know I don't want to do it there in case one of the biders is there. Maybe four or five. >> I don't want to do it in front of the bidder. >> Would is everybody else available to do a special Zoom meeting?

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>> It would be a week from Friday Zoom in the afternoon. >> I just >> or late or 5 or 6. I mean, do it earlier. Do it during working hours. I'll try 2:30 or 6:00. >> It would take if we're just doing that. We're not going to do anything to a Zoom

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meeting in a parking lot walking to my car. >> That's May. The only the only issue is hey can would can be available or do we have to set up a separate zone >> however you want to do it. Don't worry about that right now. We'll do it. >> Oh, we'll do it. >> Yeah, we we'll figure it out.

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>> Okay. Okay. >> So, that would take care of the first phase. At the same time, we are doing the design for the installation which has to be bid separately. The key component of that is the cost and D wants to know the cost. So, they can just authorize us to move forward with

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that. And I think that's when the agreement probably comes from them. We agreed to pay for the installation. Uh DA commission shall receive bids. Let us know the amount. Um I think Steve and I will also be able to submit as a part of this second grant uh our costs that we

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have associated with the redesign. Right now we're under budget. It seems amazing, but we're still under budget for the first phase, >> which is the >> Yeah. So we've been very careful. Um >> Okay. But we have to go back out to bit

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for the installation of these all these units. Uh it will include purchase of or rental of a crane to put the units in place. It'll include restoration of the site and a few other items. >> Um do we want to authorize that at the ne authoriz authorize to go out to bid

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now? So at least we have the authorization when you're ready to go. I >> that's probably required because we only did the bid once. Right. Right. Or do it again. So The first bid authorization was for the purchase and installation, right? If you

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want to be specific. >> So, this would be authorization for the installation, >> separate installation. Yeah. So, we're preparing those bids now. We're going to advertise um under an alternate funding source when when D agrees to have us advertise

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it >> and then >> we I'll make a motion right now to authorize >> to go to the bid installation piece of of the grant >> probably right after the receipt of the first. >> Okay. >> So maybe the next >> as long as we have the bid off.

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>> They've already worked on the spec. I'm going to review them tomorrow or Monday. So maybe that's fine. >> Maybe maybe you know the Thursday after receipt of our bids would Oh, we don't have to do that anymore. >> Just go on the deal commission website. >> Exactly. >> Thank you.

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>> Someone second please. >> So >> I wrote this all down so you can take us home and learn. >> Oh absolutely absolutely. >> Alaners. >> Yes. >> Deal. Yep. Inter Lakeland. Yes. Luck. Yes.

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>> And Ocean. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> This way. We get that. Okay. >> The the other thing we got an email on today. >> Um >> Oh, yeah. >> Was from the D and that was about the they want the the finances. They want our quarterly report which is laid of course.

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>> Um we all knew that. We talked about that before. Um I got the financial piece here from from Ricky, right? >> And I think Ricky's willing to put it into the Sage system. He just needs a word. Steve is gonna have everything ready for Monday, I believe. Right, Steve?

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>> He's on mute. >> He's He's coming. >> He's looking to hit the button. He's smiling, too. Oh, wait. >> This way. This way. >> Go to There he is.

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>> I just couldn't get it to to uh unmute for some reason. But yes, I started the I you provided me with the billing information. I already had a sense, but I just wanted to make sure that what I write is covered or I'm covering exactly in what

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is in that billing information because D will freak out if it's not. >> Yeah. He's got the bills from July 1st to March 31st. >> Yep. Okay. >> That's the bill,000. when he sends the wording justifying the expenditures and the budgetary

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submission, the wording has to be pretty precise against what the grant says. There are a variety of tasks. Steve knows all the numbers and all and each task has a cost associated with it. Uh engineering, environmental, and then engineering, environmental, and construction.

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>> So Steve's wording represents what the grant said. and and we don't know what they're >> we haven't changed the budget >> and that that could be an issue for them, but we told we we asked them we said it's going to be off. Um we're going to adjust it after we get the bids

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in. So that's what we said to them. >> We're not going to go over our engineering or or environmental cost, >> which is kind of remarkable when you think about it, you know, because we really designed it three times. You know, we designed it the first time, then we redesigned it trying to get approval, and then when they said, "No,

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that's not going to work," we did a third design, which is the one that's going out the bid now. And now we're really doing a fourth bid, which is the installation of all these units. We're potentially, you know, going to look pretty good because you'll

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get the grant amount plus, say it costs 350 or $400,000 to install office. That's the second bid we're going to get. Yes, >> that time we'll submit the cost to D. Steve and I can submit our cost for construction management and um hopefully

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it's all approved by D. >> The really good news is they went from an adversarial >> absolutely >> relationship to basically a team which we've been talking about for decades at least two decades to you have a team approach and they it worked good and and they our zooms with them are very

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beneficial. Um I'm not sure if the recording but they're really good. >> I have all my notes. >> Yeah. all my notes on the zoom >> and really I think a lot of that had to do with Katie >> just really Steve what's that >> I said I I think a lot of that really had to do with Katie Anarond okay she

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really >> pulled the D people together and I think with probably direction from you know even above her um said hey we're going to we're going to solve this problem as opposed to we're just going to pose problems and ask them to you know clear

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hurdles for us >> so I I think a lot of it goes back to Katie. >> Yeah. I I got a I got a nice note from the chief of staff at the D commissioner basically saying that V didn't go pal. He's going back to Vgo saying everything's working out well. >> It was a very very nice note. Um

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>> just being nitpicky and depending upon whose world it is. Do we need to change the wording of since we're breaking the bid into two, >> do we need to change the wording of the existing bid to equipment? >> It was done.

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>> Yes, it was. >> If it says equipment and and installation on bid one and then we do installation, >> bid one is just equip purchase of equipment. >> Okay. It was just how it was worded. >> I'm still scratching my head. They're still calling it the same grant and the

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same grant number. And you know what? I'm saying thank you and we're moving on. >> Yeah, you're right. But we have uh the the project that's out to bid now is very specifically just for the purchase of the equipment. >> Furnish and deliver manufactured treatment. >> Good question.

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>> Yeah. Get >> Yeah, they sure do. Yeah. >> And the other thing is where does it get delivered? You could add, we thought, upwards of $50,000 to the project cost if you got a bidder who would say, "Oh, yeah, I'll bring it, but I'm going to bring it to my yard when I buy it, and then I'll

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bring it to the site, but I have to rent a crane, and I have to bring it there, and it's going to cost you $25,000 to bring it there, $25,000 for the crane." So what we did is we had my Ocean Township engineer go to the C Square

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Mall Group, >> our partner, >> our partner, >> and get approval to bring it and store it on their propert. >> Great. >> So we know that's where it's going right now. So everything we're doing along the way is saving money. It's really remarkable.

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>> So um Steve mentioned Katie Anderone, chief strategy officer in the office of commissioner. She was instrumental in this. That's right. Uh a research scientist, uh Chris Albazetti, Kathy Schaefer who's the manager of lake management program, Bureau of Watershed

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Management, Bob Schustster, he's the director of the division of watershed protection. uh and then uh some support staff along with the D chief of staff and then Gabe uh Mahan was the individual that did the review initially

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denying and now partnering with us because he's been wonderful in responding to Dave and how he's doing the design. >> So like Don said it's >> and it's it's going to be >> enjoyable now it's awesome. >> It's it's going to be maybe the way we do business in the future. Maybe we team up well, you know, lake when they have a

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grant like this, they team up before and get everything on the table and work with the organizations or the lakes commissions or the towns and and and figure it out because it cost money. All the stuff that like Peter was talking about with the rain cards. >> That's that's money. That's that's 30

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$40,000 to do that if not more. >> Was there an inind component to this grant? >> Yeah, sure. >> And where does that fit in in the new two grant structure? >> Um, we'll have an inind on this grant. Um, and I have the amount. >> It's like,

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>> but I I'll just tell you what it was. We got a grant for $990,000. The inind component was $110,000. Really 107, but say 110,000. So, I got a little confused over the last few days because

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this is a little stressful. And I went to Jesse's resolution approving the funding and it was for $880,000. And I said, "We don't have as much money as I thought." Right? >> Because I thought the grant was

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$990,000. But then when I went through all the paperwork, I realized that we had taken the inind services out of the grant amount for our resolution because our resolution for the commission was just buy the equipment and install it. Now it's just buy the equipment.

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>> What we're doing tonight is part of the income. What we did to clean up as part of >> I understood. I just didn't know how to figure out. I'm hopeful, and Steve may chime in. I'm hopeful that the second installation grant doesn't include in kind services since it's simply a

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contractor installing the material in >> on site and us doing the construction management and closing lines. >> Yeah, I agree. And we're not going to bring up any ININD services with those installation, you know, because we already have we've probably already

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exceeded our ININD requirement just with just with the the cleanups alone, you know, and the monthly meetings. But, you know, regardless, we we are on the hook for a given amount. But, you know, that's all computed ahead of time and with, you know, very liberally, too. So,

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I'm never in doubt that we'll meet the incind. It's the biggest pain is just documenting it and then submitting that documentation to D. >> And we have a spreadsheet that we we we validated. We just have plugged. >> So I'll close with this. I don't I'm not a good salesman in terms of taking

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credit for things but Paul knows because we worked together for a long time. One of the things we do is we're very conscientious of the fiscal responsibility that we have. We're very cost conscientious not only for the construction component but our component. I know how bad it looks. I

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don't know another engineering firm or environmental firm that would have been able to do this work under the grant amount. When I see other grants where the the the engineering component is 30 35

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40% of the grant amount, it's scary. >> So, we're still remarkable Stephen Peter's team, you know, >> coming together on they they didn't miss a Zoom. They didn't miss your special Zoom. We spent the time and energy before the meetings and after the meetings and during the meetings. So

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>> we weren't always positive know that >> we were positive but we weren't always you know uh thinking that this was going to come together >> right >> Christian helped >> you know to me coming to the meetings and talking about it helped me more than sitting in my office trying to figure it

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out talking to D because that's a little frustrating when you're getting challenged every time you take a step. Well done. Thank you. >> Good job, Steve. >> That was a lot. >> That was a lot. That was That was good. It was good. >> So, take this home and read it when

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you're tired and want to take a nap. >> All right. Shoreline protection. Um the only update is I have a problem down the street from me. I'm I'm dealing with it and um I'll report back in a month or two on that little issue. So,

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>> I had I had two local contractors running down to the lake shore with full paint buckets ready to >> get rid of them, but my family scared them away. So, >> wow. >> Good for you. >> Wow. >> There you go. There you go. >> Wow. >> Holy. You could see them from the house.

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I went down with a camera and my family was screaming. >> Wow. >> Okay. Um >> goose med remediation. I'm telling you, I just >> I almost walked into a goose nest today in another lake and it was an eye

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openener because that goose went nuts. >> Oh, I almost thought it pushed me in a limb. >> Yeah. So, um we had one one trip already by the USDA. Um I'm sure we'll have more. I didn't get any reports back on any problems where they couldn't treat

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the the nest. >> I've got no addresses. >> It's very quiet. So, it's that's good news. It's all working out. The geese will cooperate. They're going back to the houses like they have approval for remediation. >> So that's good. Um but they do go back

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to exactly the same spot res. I was there today >> and there's on right by the swimming area. There's a rock wall right by the the dam and that goose is there every year. Every single year. >> There's one in the middle of the target parking lot on one of those little

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trianges. Tiny triangles. >> He's within the water. >> They the way their nest they go back to that spot. every center too outside my window. >> I've seen that one. >> Okay, we're rolling along. Here we go.

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Lake cleanup went very very well. I mean, I was I was pleasantly surprised and it all came together. Uh we had nice crew in various different locations and um we able to do do the job. So, I mean, we we unfortunately kind of work out with model clean communities days. We we

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scheduled very late this year. today and probably gave it already, but each town picked up the appropriate set of trash. Interlac spectacular job as normal. Um, and we had I think Interlac the next week uh worked out with the I'm not sure

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exactly the details of the homeless gentleman that was living on the tracks. Um, but now it's cleaned up town. They I'm not you know you know what happened to him? >> I don't. >> But anyway, they cleaned that area up and it was pretty bad. They filled the

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truck up the back of his pickup truck. Yeah, it was a lot of stuff. >> It was an extensive camp. >> Yeah. >> Encampment. >> Uh the railroad guys, really good news. >> Yeah. >> You know, we are crying because the railroad ties are all over the place during the camp. >> Sending you pictures >> and they did a great job. They without

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even being asked, they went >> much better than the last time. >> Much better. Much better. So that that's that's super news. Um and the lake looked pretty good. We did have the corner by Inner Lake. It was again the worst spot. You're taking all my commissions. Last words. >> Oh, I'll leave it. I'll leave it. I'll

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leave it for you. I'll leave it for you. I'll leave it. I'll leave. No, she's going to describe what was there. So, I won't do that. >> Stay in your town, will you? >> Yeah. So, yeah, it went very very well. And we did a little extra clean up at Barcode. Barco provided us I'll give a little plug. Uh get discount coupons

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with 20% off for that day if you went that day and and a lot of us did. Um had some bubbly and then food and all that good stuff. and and they they extend it to the 4th of May uh for 15% off. So if you have the coupons and I have some I

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think Marggo you did a clean up your own self. So you want to coupon? >> Yeah. What's that? >> Places in town used to always give stuff for the beach suite. No, no place like this. >> Well, Barco stood up and and and we did

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it okay job cleaning around Barco. We went back and and did more Tide and I tide Rush and I and we found the inner lake and Asbury sign in the lake. >> That's very funny. >> I pick it up, but I didn't know where it was from. >> Yeah, >> it was from the lake. >> It was in the lake. >> I have a picture.

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>> And the sign posts are still there. >> The correct arrows and it's right next to the poles are still there. So the >> straight to the right. So >> I don't know where the sign went. It was >> I put it on the right side. I put it on the inside the the bumper looking at the

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barco patrons. Yeah. Okay. >> And it disappeared. So somebody's got >> Oh, somebody university. >> Any other uh old business that I missed? >> Okay. New business. Um

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summertime. A lot of people ask me summer Sunday lake cleanup. So we get some of the community folks out there and help out. So we haven't picked a date yet. Um, we we'll we'll figure Anybody have any ideas of a good date? >> That'd be a

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I don't know. I think next meeting we could we could pick that >> in September at some point. >> No, it would be No, no, no, no. It had to be July or August. >> I think a Sunday is a good idea. >> Yeah. To see what would happen. >> Oh, absolutely.

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>> We'll see how that do it. I wouldn't do it. >> No way. I think August would be better because that's >> Yeah, there's nothing early. >> Up until >> early August 2nd assembly, I think

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>> August 2nd. >> Um I probably won't >> look around and see what else is going on. >> I probably I probably won't be here August second. >> Oh, >> so that's that's another problem. But we'll we'll we'll talk. >> August sounds good. Like maybe the

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second week, but we'll >> Italian Fest weekend, but that's okay. We could do it that day. >> There would be a lot of trash. >> 9th. The 9th. The 9th could be good. >> By August 10thly, >> could be good. >> August 9th. >> And it's going to be more of a paddle or

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boat adventure. Uh people can walk around too. We we'll provide >> Did you say August 9th? >> Um yeah, August 9th, >> which is Sunday. 9:00. >> See what else happen? >> I'd like to do it early if we could. >> What do you think? Would that be that?

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>> 9:00. 9:00. >> Yeah. >> Okay. 9:00. >> But we're gonna >> We'll get more people if we keep >> May I do a bit of new business? >> What's that? >> May I do a bit of new business? >> Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. >> Um, if you've all been driving down Wikipe, you've seen that the county did

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a dredger project in Fireman's Park. >> Yes. >> And they did a decent job. Don had a concern about how close to the shoreline they were going. So, I checked into it and they actually went to the drip line of the trees. They couldn't go any closer because they'd affect the root system of the trees. So, they went as

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close as they could. Looks better. >> Looks better. >> Really does. Um, thank the county for it. >> That was quite a bridge they had going out. >> Really? Yeah. Impressive. Yeah. And when you look at projects we've done in the past, u when we did Terrace Pond the

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first time, we got a grant from Governor Whitman. I think it was $398,000 and we we spent all of our money building the hall road out and getting trucks to move the the product. So, it's expensive. It's an expensive thing.

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>> Um but I was requested by um Johnny Npalitani, the mayor of Ocean Township, uh to look into two separate items at Fireman's Pond. And I'd like the commission to kind of give me a sense if I can talk to Steve Susa about these two things. he thought it would be very

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appropriate to put two aators in the pond with lights. Um really might look good. >> Um so can we look into purchase and installation of those items and secondly would love it if we could stockman's pond.

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>> Oh absolutely. That's that was on my list. >> That's perfect. So um if you all feel comfortable with it I'll talk to Steve and maybe at the next meeting we'll come back with >> I can talk to D about stocking >> be great. or >> stop.

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>> No, do you want to use sterile cloth? Just so you considering that >> deal is doing a lighting project on Norwood Avenue, so they already may have some up lighting recommendations. They may have already gone through all the nightmare of >> yes to this, no to that.

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>> It's pretty simple with those units. They only have a couple different packages, but >> also like they were on Norwood Avenue. I think they're going to turn on like close to sunset and only stay on till midnight. >> Smart >> so it doesn't bother the neighbor.

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>> That's smart. Just think about that. >> And actually the animals too. The animals and the birds and the >> turtles. >> Bats. Bats are key. >> We have any turtles in farm as far. >> They may be gone after our but I put many turtles back. That's nice. >> So what lighting are they talking about? Are you talking about

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>> just the the um fountain lighting? The aon lighting. >> Okay. Cuz I gave information on the bubbler that that Barco has. I had that. So I gave that to John. >> Okay. Good. >> Over this tough winter. >> Yeah. >> But I told him that I would bring it up and if Steve and I can put a little

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thought into it, we'll come back and say >> and the township would I guess whoever's controlling the lights at that fireman's memorial would pay for the electric and all that. >> Probably after it's installed. We'll figure that out. And you're you're talking about us. >> We would pay for it, right? Or >> purchasing this call.

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>> Sure. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Sure. I I'm okay with you want to make sure that >> we'll maintain >> or you want to do it. >> I get a price first. >> Right. But why don't we just say authorize that we look into it? Yeah. >> So I move that we we we look into

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stocking and also lighting um fountains one >> some type of variation. >> I thought this Well, >> well, we don't know yet. We don't know. We have to get authorization from the DNA, >> right? But I do think a bubbler would be better than the fountain. They're just

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easier to maintain, >> you know, they they far easier to maintain. They they use less energy and they do if you, you know, if you're looking for water circulation, that's the way to go. If they're could, you know, if their interest is like to make it look fancy in there, then yeah, the

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fountain, >> but the the fountains are a lot more maintenance. They have to be removed in the winter. >> Have to be removed every year, >> right? They have to be removed in the winter. >> We'll look into and give proposals. >> Two options. >> Yep. We'll give our two proposals to the mayor.

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>> Okay. >> Someone second. >> All in favor? >> I >> oppose. Okay. I just wanted to ask are we going to do a fishing contest again? >> Not right now. You know, I I would love

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to say yes to that. Um but there's there's other considerations. So not no if our fishing contest group want the fishing club wanted to do it again on surely we'd let them but it's basically over. They usually do it early April. Um

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but you know maybe we do another another type of event. Uh we've been asking the DP to come in with their their stun guns basically and and do electro fishing >> again for the carp and we'd help them with with

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basically baiting the carp so they don't have to go all over the lake. They can just stay in certain areas. So >> um they they've heard that. I'm waiting for a response from them. So anyway, okay. So ospreys. So that new the Osprey

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nest on top of Jersey Central was taken down the po. But >> it's being rebuilt. >> Where? And then why why did they rebuild? I'm a little confused. >> No, I'm No, I'm I'm a little confused why the the the owners JCPL did not put

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a stand up before they ripped down the T. That's what I was confused. You There is no tower, right? There is no >> It's right on top of the telephone pole. I swear. >> I know that. I know that. But there's no new poll that was set by the owner. >> No,

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that was disappointing. But they birds found a new home. >> Yeah. >> At Grateful Deli. >> Oh, you saw. Where is it? On the right. >> I don't know. It's on a telephone. >> Tele park. It's great. And the entrance

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the barco and >> it's for every >> and it's very active. >> Yeah, they do. Don't park your car there because all the all the tree limbs are coming down. >> I said something very inapprop. >> No, it doesn't have a grateful dad.

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>> That's right. >> She wouldn't do it. >> Anyway, no, she would. No, she wouldn't do it, my friend. >> Okay. Um, any other new business? I don't have any. >> Okay. Commissioner's last word. Daryl.

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Uh, since the lake was recently stocked, there's been a lot of activity. I've seen a lot of guys in fishing boats out every day. >> Recently stocked. >> I think we I think we were stocked. >> Somebody mentioned it. I actually saw >> it wasn't trout, but I think it was

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catfish. >> But I don't know. See, there have been a lot of guys out there, >> right? Um, and then to uh what Don was heading towards before I I asked him to stop was there is still a lot of residual oil uh on the um northwest

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corner of the tracks over here. Um and a lot of debris that we couldn't get to because we didn't lower the lake this time. But there is definitely residual oil that I took a bunch of pictures of and sent to Don >> for his conversations with uh you know the D on that remediation

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>> and it's still active. That's still an active discussion. >> Thank you. >> Any updates on the Eagles? >> I haven't seen any. >> Have you ever? >> No. Go ahead. No, >> usually >> they're around town. I mean, they're

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between here and there's a couple of them slitting around the area. >> They were here in the winter drive and there's some down in there. No nests that I know ideally at the present time, but a lot of Austrian nests. Yeah, >> they're back in full force. Okay.

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You're >> the one by the golf course though at the end. >> Is it still there? Okay. >> It has been for years. So, >> okay. Yeah. >> I have one outside my window at work. >> That's an ostrich. >> It's all eagles. >> Anthony, what do you got?

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>> Oh, okay. I'm glad you got your project. Looks like it's moving along. Uh, you put up the good fight, so I'm happy about that. >> I know. We had lots of talks about that. And >> we had lots of talks about that. And uh >> you gave some great advice at at your past business experience

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about it too. And that's kind of how it took shape. You know, you just proceed tried. Don was absolutely wonderful. When we talked to D said all the right things, didn't wasn't contentious. I mean, Steve and I have done this a lot and we were angry, you know, because

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this is the first time they've really ever put up a fight like this. Don was great. And I was listening to your words about how you just persevere and hopefully it comes out right at the end. >> I Yeah, I'll do my little minute. I mean, I I fought back the the the urge

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to go to the press. I really wanted I wanted to trash them so bad. And I said, >> you know, the the devil and and the >> and the angel won and uh you know, I think we got a really good relationship now. And we'll keep our fingers crossed. and it goes and

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>> they did say just be aware this is never going to happen again. >> And they said and whoever's whoever's watching our our show here from other lakes, it's it's you you have to deal with it upfront. Um but they they what

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they're doing for us is very unusual. But that's that's >> And a side note, I text the superintendent of Dale Country Club and asked him if he seen the bald eagle. He said he saw it today. >> Okay. Wow. Nice. taking away a golfer. >> He is like a bird. That's right. There

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was about a 14p on the west on her side of the wall. >> Oh, really? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. >> Do we have a nest in pair? >> Right by Jarro's house. >> Yep. Jar's house. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Is there a nest in pair or they just show up and we know they're all legal? What happens? There used to be a nest

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and then lately I think one of them must have died. >> What happens in nest stays in the nest. That's why. >> Yeah. There was developers. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um the cleanest nation beach week

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went really well. Um about a dozen people I didn't even know. Really serious. Got came got done business. We had so much stuff by 10:00. Couldn't believe it. >> It's great. >> Um really wonderful what volunteers can

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do. That's the largest volunteer activity in the state of New Jersey. It's the There's a real >> we got over 5,000 people. >> Wow. >> That's impressive. >> I think 80 locations. >> Um I can't remember if we ever if if I

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had ever mentioned this. Um the Lock Arbor Commissioners oed a $10,000 payment to do a study for a traffic circle at Edgemont and Nor and Norwood

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Avenue. Did you talk about that? Ed and Dor Avenue. >> How could that? >> I don't know how that could be. The state highway >> would have to encroach on the rightway. Somebody asked me that years ago and I just looked at it and said it would

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encroach on the state highway. They're not going to give you >> their right to do that. >> Anyway, they can do it's out of our, as I say, it's out of our zone. And I have not heard anything more on our sewers being cleaned like I said

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probably about a year ago. So I'll try to >> um the clean >> nothing. >> We're probably going to be more aggressive with with clean ocean action helping on on talk to the sewer authorities about putting dyes in when the summer comes because we really want

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to track what's happening with the sewer lines. So >> we believe there's still leaks. We we know the hot spots, so we want to concentrate on those hot spots and hopefully in the summer we can do that. >> Bobby, >> uh parking issues, uh deals dealing with parking issues at the casino and the

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beach because everyone wants more parking. >> Sure. >> Um and on the boat front, I haven't seen goldfinches around and saw a couple in the past few days >> all night. >> Oh, good. >> Yeah. Like I I was It was a surprise. I was >> state bird in New Jersey. I was out dog

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walking and I'm like, >> "Huh?" >> Yeah. >> Interesting. >> Interesting. >> And I saw a lot. Yeah. So, I think I mentioned it last time. A lot of turtles in the lake. Lots. >> Yeah. They're going to have somebody. >> And the fish the fishing is phenomenal on lake right now. That's why you're

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seeing the bass bass bass guys here. Um, >> smells front. He must I don't know. I'm going to say he hit up four caught >> or was the same fish he caught, but it it was it was healthy looking fish. Uh, which is great news. And uh >> and we move on. So >> you look good, too.

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>> What's that? >> They thought you look good, too. >> Yeah, I know. I didn't catch one yet. I didn't c I not this year. I haven't caught one this year. So, at least the deal. Um Okay, that's all I got. I don't think Is anybody on? >> Let's open up. >> Hold on. Hold on. I want to see if there's any either of you. No. Okay. No.

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Okay. Nobody's on. Um let's open up to the >> Someone offer. >> I'm over. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Okay. Anybody out there from the public like to talk? Any questions? Pete use I see Pete there.

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Anything Pete? >> Okay. Very quiet out there. So, um, >> motion motion to close. >> Going once, going twice. That's it. Let's >> motion to close the public hearing. >> Motion. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? I

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>> I >> a motion to adjourn the meeting. >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I I