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Yes. The here and ocean here. Yay. Okay. Um I just want to now some we're going to be going through all you know agenda items. And what I want the commissioners to remember let let the let the the person talking complete the
full briefing. I will ask at the end of that state that statement or presentation if there's any comments from the commissioners um and and for the mayor who's first time on we're going to be open to the public at the end of the session. So we usually
go less about an hour maybe less than an hour. So we got a lot of things to do. We got some interesting information. Um so we'll start off. We have a res a resolution to approve the minutes of the regular meeting from April 24th,
2025. Somebody over second. It resolved that the minutes of the regular meeting of the deal commission held on October April 24th, 2025 being the same hereby. Yes. Aspberry Park. Yes. Deal. You have
to perfect Lincoln. Yes. Arbor. Yes. Neptune. Yes. And ocean. Yes. And I have to mention it's it's one of the thickest minutes we ever did. It's more thicker than but very good. Thank you.
And we also have a resolution tonight to approve the treasures report and pay bills. Mark read. Yes. Balance on hand previous month is $191,235.38. The receipts were 6 $462. um for a total balance of $191,697.38. The
dispersements came to $10,7169. So our total bond deposit is $180,98069. Someone please offer the resolution to approve I'll offer Aspberry Park. Secondh.
Yes. Asbury Park. Yes. Yes. Interaver. Yes. Yes. And yes. Okay. Um just told me that we've been working hard on this the grant and for those who
don't know about it's a CD of all grant. Uh we're doing we're trying to solve the problems that were created in 1974. Try to minimize those problems so we have less less soil erosion into the lake and and clean the water up coming in. Uh because you know it's it's an old
dump. So we've been we've been b not battling but we've been working with the state well battling a little bit. Uh but we got to the point where we got most of the information done. We submitted it. It looked great. And uh I got the letter today and I just have to tell you it's
been a long road. So let me just read it read to everybody. Um good afternoon Don. I am happy to tell you that the latest updates from your your links agreement. We resolve the remaining issues that were holding up the execution. We are moving we're moving
the agreement forward for final execution signatures right away. you will receive an automatic message from the D Sage system and as soon as the agreement is fully escued and I gave her a very very nice little flag that's great but it's wonderful
that was a long haul that's a one year from the time we signed it to now clean up insurance information things they didn't read initially that we had correct in the last couple months so that was great one of them certain
in the rest of the I think I gave I gave him a call. I asked him to run it through all his folks were all these folks were out they were on vacation. So I gave him a call. He goes, "I'll check with budget and finance." It was tied up with budget. Budget finance released it and we're
ready to go. Next week we shoot it. Maybe tomorrow they sign a document. So just so knows typically uh design is not allowed to begin until the agreement signed by both parties of
the team. In this case, DP allowed us to start we did we did field survey of the CB square mall loop road. Uh we received some information on existing site development plans for C square and some
of the drainage system. Uh presented that two months ago I think it was two weeks ago. So you saw what the intent of the project is. It's to take the basins along the axle road around C square wall and the drainage going into those basins, enlarge the basins, make them a
little more efficient and create the ability to treat the storm water coming from the CV square parking lot into those basins which is uncontrolled now. All that sediment goes under route 35 across um Christies still call it and
into our lake which gets to Terrace pond and fills terrace pond with seven. So uh since that meeting we've still been working. We're doing a little more design. Uh Don Steve and I are going to meet tomorrow and go over some of the details. But what I've done is I've
gotten information on the Cedar Village. I believe it is to the west from Ocean Township. All of that drainage that comes into two large basins on the west side of Route 18 makes its way into CU Square Mall, the drainage system under
Route 18 and then into these basically treat all that basically everything from just east of MJ east. That's right. all that water comes through. Yep. So, it's a lot of drainage coming into this and it's uncontrolled
drainage and that's why we've been suffering folks and once we treat this um there's going to be some additional work done in Ocean Township by Ocean Township uh to assist us, but they're not going to do it until our project is done. That's the problem there.
So, we're organiz any any question? Yes. Peter, does the Route 66 project with Quint more asphalt have any impact? No, that doesn't come to us. It really doesn't. Um, it's close, you know, but but um River. Yeah, Shark River. And then if
you go Well, all get to Shark River. If you go a little west, it goes to Jungle Book to Shark River. A little bit east, it comes down, makes it way through the train on 66. And Kenny adds to worrying about that. No.
Well, thanks Peter. Thank you. And Steve's going to work with Yeah, Steve is doing a great job. We're going to be talking about it tomorrow and we'll have updates monthly. And so the plans are done to bid and hopefully get all the work done before our grant runs out. We had three years in the agreement. They
they changed that to 30 months, but they so long the agreement we basically have a little less than a year I believe. And okay, we're going to go right to shoreline protection. and and Jeannie, I'm going to let you run with it because you got some good information in it. So,
go ahead. Okay. Um, sure. Well, you know, just uh we had at one time had a meeting, last time we had a meeting with the NJD co um code enforcement people was in 2022 and you know because we've
had concerns with the kinds of enforcement or lack of enforcement um that's been happening and um at that time you know we both NJD and DA commission felt that our missions are common you know we both have similar
goals and so we could work together um better if we were had more communications but that was the last communication that we had. We talked about more meetings and then that was the end of it. So I'd been trying to reach um them again to set up a meeting
and just this week um I got an email saying okay we'd like to meet with you. We know you want to meet with us. This is someone we've never spoken with before. But one one of piece of that letter that was good news too was that I don't know if anybody remembers the name
Tammy Miller, but she was one of the enforcement um people who helped work with us and advised us in terms of some of the issues we were having. And she retired. So, you know, everybody said goodbye to her, but now she's back.
She's back as a part-time employee with um with enforcement. So, that's good because she knows us. She knows the lake for many years. And we have now um set up a a meeting. Don, Steve, and I are going to meet with the um new person in
charge, Morgan. Gosh, sorry, don't have her last name in front of me cuz I didn't know you were going to ask me to speak about it. But, um and Tammy will be there. And so, we have our meeting and hopefully this will be a not the
first or the last for the next 3 years. Hopefully, we're going to have a relationship where we can continually meet and discuss what's going on. And part of the that I part of what I was saying in my letters to them is um all
along too, we were looking for support, some educational support because they had said that part of their team was beginning to expand um to do educational outreach for the public. So that would be useful to us too and and you know
getting people more informed can ask questions about permits and that sort of thing um that they handle and that they they are responsible for enforcing this. No, it's it's been a long long work. So thank you Jean. Yes. Let me just add
something on that too John because the person that we're meeting with is Madison Bller. [Music] Yeah. So, you know, and then along with Tammy, we'll have at least two people that uh we can reach out to. As Janie
pointed out, we have developed, you know, uh, materials that, uh, we've distributed to the towns and actually distributed to, uh, lakefront property owners, informing them about some of the limitations, uh, that, uh, they have on
themselves in terms of clearing vegetation within 50 ft of the edge of the uh, of the lake. So part of what we'll be doing in advance of this meeting with DP is putting together two or three salient talking points so that
we can control the narrative and then also prepare, you know, a a short agenda. That way we'll have our points laid out ahead of time with them. They'll understand what our issues are, where we need their help. Um because it
you know the these projects or these let's call them projects whatever people have disturbing the land. It continues to happen and even with all the public outreach and education that we've done it just seems that you know these problems continue to occur and they do
have collectively uh a negative impact on the lake. So, you know, we need DP's assistance to at least come in uh maybe help the towns, help us uh inform the property owners uh that yeah, what they're doing may be regulated. In some
cases, it may not, but at least, you know, we need to have some type of um assistance from D on these matters. Yeah. It's also going to help the property owners, too, because it's just not a negative thing. you know, we need to know how to communicate to the
property owners who who they should talk to and we have to make sure we have the right numbers and information on the Sure, which I think we did. And the virtual it's on our website. I think all the towns have a copy of it and their town halls. Yeah. And you know, in addition to that, you know, some of the work some of the work that they're doing
on their properties actually is it, you know, it impacts their own properties, makes those shorelines more uh likely to become eroded. And so it it's they're not doing themselves a favor. Uh they think that clearing that vegetation is is beneficial, but it's
not beneficial to them as property owners and it's obviously not beneficial to the lake, right? Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Let me let's keep we got and we'll have a full report next. Okay. Uh the other thing, thank you Jeanie for sending out the donor's
document or the guide to lakefront owners to all the commissioners digital form and I guess what you asked is for them to pass that along to the construction departments so they can they can maybe incorporate that into the websites and others. It is up on the
Osprey Park website um now and they're also including the information that we talked about in terms of what uh just that small piece of information that if somebody's doing any kind of construction along the lake uh building
or whatever that they need to contact the NJ and make sure that what they're doing is okay and approved. It may need a permit, it may not, like Steve said. But we want people to know this. This this what they need to do. And I think the message is getting out because right
next door to me, the guy that just bought my a property next to me said, "Oh yeah, they told us when we were doing this work here that we need to contact the NJ to see if we need a permit." And I was like, "Yes, it's working."
Great. Okay. Thanks. 200 we treatment. I think that's what he wanted. Lake science lake management sciences. I sent him the sign proposal. He's getting ready to work on a project and
that's dealing with the the west section of the colonial terrace and also hollow Brook over in the nect if need be gets treated hasn't been treated and last last year wasn't treated then needed to be treated. So we all treat what we need to treat, right?
Exactly. It's on an it's a it's an as needed basis, right? Um and you know, they'll secure all the necessary permits. They're using NJ DP approved and EPA approved aquatic herbicides. Um it's nothing new, but like as Don
pointed out, last year there was not enough weed growth to, you know, necessitate a treatment. So no treatments were done last year. It's only if there's an excessive amount of these invasive non-native uh aquatic plants. Do you know when the treatment will be
done this year? The you know the uh the process is they'll be coming out towards the end of this month, beginning of June. Make a visual of assessment. I normally, you know, go out there with them just to confirm, you know, what they've seen and what the assessment,
you know, if there's, you know, significant amount of plant growth already. And then typically they try to time the treatment. Uh maybe towards like the end of June, uh the goal being that uh one treatment perhaps may be all
that's needed for the entire uh season or maybe two treatments. you know, it's a little bit tricky with this lake because of the amount of flow, particularly in the terrace pond area, um, and also with the golf course utilizing some of that water for
irrigation. So, um, all that stuff needs to be taken in consideration. And so in any event, um, yeah, we'll we'll probably be out there like towards the end of the month, make an assessment, and then typically, you know, when a treatment is needed, it it's it starts
at the close to the end of mid to the end of June, depending on the density of plants. Okay. Thank you. All right. Okay. Um, any other old business that we did in the goose
gooseb very very well? Um, I don't know the exact account, but I know there been on a lake at least three times and you might not seen them, but they paddle around and look around and we've had reports people calling in and spotting nests and it turns out the nest
sport kill by the USDA. If you see them around the lake, if you see a nest, you know, just, you know, contact, you know, one of your commissioners and track them right now. It's going well. We saw I saw one in a
nest or a GZlings in Colonial Terrace and I think we just saw two by the Interl station, two geese, two baby geese. for the for those uh Don if you would just for the people that that I see it to in the public who may not know
um we're carrying out the with the USDA we're doing treatments having the USDA treat goose nests nests are spotted by them or if if the public reports that they see a nest. So, if you see a goose nest and you go on to our website, you
can contact us and tell us the location of the nest. This I believe she goes up until the first week in June. Don, I think that was what that's right. So, up until then, um, you know, where they're still laying eggs and they can be
treated. If you see a nest, let us know and we can send the USDA to treat those eggs. Okay. Thanks, James. We're going to move on. any uh any other old business that I just have a question old business in terms of the uh reertification agreement. Have all seven
towns now um signed the amendment and do we have that in a I know that answer the amendments are going out this week. The second amendment is going second. We haven't received um Asbury Park's original agreement. We haven't received
their first amendment. No was approved. We know that we've never received We never received G. You have what is it that you haven't received yet? The original agreement the original on. Okay. And the amendment the amendment
was never one was never sent back either. Which both amendments or one amen? One amendment and the original agreement. They have not received another the second amendment yet. Okay. No, no doubt. Are they the only ones
that has it? That's correct. Okay, I'll see what I can do about that. I think payment too. Oh, and the payment that's compliment business, the sewer sewer
league in Asbury. Um, I have to compliment Asbury sewer authority and the river department. They did a great job stopping the flow during our cleanup. We spotted toilet paper coming out of the pipe by the ice which kind of surprised me and and loading us. So they
got right on it and within 2 hours they had slowed down the flow to trickle and by midnight they had bypassed the the problem and sent the sewage south I think to about 4,000 400. That's why the road was closed for about 2 weeks. They had they had a challenge. They had to
fix that pipe as an old pipe and they had to fix two storm water pipes that were right above it. So they there was plenty of work that was done by private contractors and and such, but everything flowed well and uh no more sewage coming into the lake.
So I thank the right and then the J tested the waters and found that the the count had come down for eol, right? Yeah, they came down actually came down so low you can swim in it according to that's what the
Da suit on there um okay with that in mind the first topic um various topics was the we talked about the county re revisiting their testing off the bridges they tested 2017 2018 various different lakes
on the shore So I asked them if they come back and retest exactly what they used before. I got a call back. Unfortunately, I was in the midst of being a grandfather, so I didn't wasn't too talked to. Uh, but I did go back and and we're we're going back and forth
that we have the monthly, but I'm guessing they're going to be willing to do something. Uh, maybe not a whole series of tests, maybe the E.oli and we can get have that done monthly in the summer and get it publicized. Uh, so everybody knows what the condition of
lake is at least for the col. So that's that's a good news. The other thing I was asked to do was to call the on the oil two years ago on the lake was a ma pretty pretty
major oil sto uh was the 2009 2029 storm 2023 September 209 29 20 that big storm uh the storm water the street streets are flooding
everything's flooding but hold The the key thing was Hold on. The key thing Oh, that's the picture behind you. Yes, that's the picture. Oh, I got I got Lake. So, the water came up. It pushed the oil up and it started flooding our
lake and we didn't really see it for another storm. We had another storm a couple weeks later and that's during the fall cleanup again. Of course, it's always fall clean up to find these things, right? And we saw water pouring and fill it and it was unbelievable. We
got the the D over and within an hour, I believe, we actually found a source which was the old bread factory. Um, so that's a big block that they're building. They put 126 apartments in or whatever. Um, but they did remediation,
did a great job. Um, and they were supposed to look at the lake and see what effects it had on the lake. And when I called the guy the other day, he hesitated. There was silence on the phone. and he goes, "I'll get back to you next week." I don't think they
did it. Um, so I'm asking for I said, "We were walking in oil in inner lake and the shoreline. There's still Yeah, there's a lot of sheen in there. It didn't affect Alenhurst at all, but it definitely affected the in shoreline. I sent you
I so uh we're we're going to ask them to remediate you and whether it's going to be taking the buck up. Yeah. Oil. It's a lot. It's we're looking into that. That's that's the two things I I was asked to look into last week. Uh we had a couple comments from the public. One
was a a goose duck nest found at Andrew Park. I believe it's in their their garden city hall in the community garden. Yeah. Yeah. And they were wondering how to get rid of it. The answer was let them hatch. That was that
was our our group answer. Steve, myself and and and they they said that that was probably that's what they figured. Um, I don't know what they're going to do, but they probably let it hatch and and then escort escort the ducks to a safer spot. I don't know. Maybe escort across the
across the street to the west. Any other comment? What was this? What was the other email we had? Oh, the the Sunset Lake. Uh, got a blazing email said the lake was so filthy, polluted, there was needles all over. I'm going, "Holy crap, we just did
a clean up." It wasn't Death. It wasn't it wasn't it was it was sunset it was dead fish but the dead fish you know it's herring and shad I I walked over there the day before it was at least I saw about eight death was which isn't
uncommon for this year Shad and her spawn and die I don't think it was loss of oxygen personally um but the shoreline was pretty big in terms of and I did contact the the lake commission so genie and they were all over. They're
going to put their their fat they got a couple fats they put out there. But the big thing is they have a clean out on June 6th. So I just want to note that there and we could joint advertise that on our website. What where is the meeting and what time?
June 6. Can you send me the information? Yeah, it's not it's not I think it's on their website. They have a website. I think so. I don't think they do. No website. Um, well, if you just send me the information and
I'll post it and put it out in our next newsletter. Six, but I think it's it might be sentence or seven. Okay, all right. That's that. Hold on a second. Um, it's okay. You can just send it to me.
They also stocked the lake. Um, they stopped it was over 6,000. Um, no, Northern Lake. Yeah. So, that that was a lot of fish. I I saw one caught over by my
area. It was uh about 26 in long. It was It was pretty nice fish. They get big. They do eat a lot. Hopefully, they like carp. I think that's the idea. Um but we're going to get cat I think we get catfish next. Next next we get channel
cat, which they'll go up to 10 15 pounds. So, they'll be going to the lake shore. I asked for bass and they laughed at me. They said you realize your leg is very good with bass. You know this it's a very healthy lake in terms of bass population. So uh we're not getting any
more bass any tree about trees in people trees in the lake. Oh trees in the lake. Okay. Yes. Um, folks were asking about treason like and and our our canned answer is if it's a
navigation issue, folks should get it out. It's on their property. If not, if it's on public land, the deal commission can help out with that. It did before. Well, we could do it again. Um, but it was one in 20 terrace, not not a real navigation issue. Could be if it flowed over to the
outlet, uh, could be an issue, but right now there's about 10 or 12 turtles sitting on. So, that's the key. It's It's great for habitat. It's it's it's great for fish habitat and and turtles and birds and various other things. So trees in the lakes aren't aren't a bad thing. Some people believe it is, but
it's pretty cool. Some neighbors actually cut some branches off put a little shelter for for the turf. on this one. Hey, John. The um the Sunset Lake, the NJ was contacted by the
city of Asbury Park and they came and they checked the lake and they felt that it had something to do with stagnant water and blue green algae that I I sent you that um report from them. I I I I really don't I still don't believe that.
Uh yeah, I do believe the blue green algae was an issue a couple weeks ago, but it seemed I didn't see it the other day. It wasn't as bad. Yeah, you know, on the uh the DP uh harmful algae bloom um dashboard, it's it's not shown as a
uh a water body with an existing harmful algae bloom. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Um that's all I got. One second. Uh well, it's the big biggest one is our new grant.
Um the new 319 grant we have to we have to put something together. We have two two and a half weeks to put it together. Steve and I and Clean Ocean National sat down the other day. Steve's writing up a proposal basically to update our current storm water management. Is that correct,
Steve? Yeah, it's ex it's sort of right, you know. So there's limited projects that D will um fund and so given the problems that we just had with bacteria
contamination on that's you know like in a nutshell that's going to be the gist of it. We're going to have a watershed management plan which we we have. It's over it's it's almost like 15 years old now, but it's one of only about eight that the state recognizes and we can
update that. And so our goal will be to update that with additional emphasis placed on uh problems associated with bacteria contamination of the lake um from various sources, not just like
broken sewer pipes, but uh from upland sources. And this is work that Clean Ocean Action has been doing with us, you know, over the past few years, trying to detect these uh quote unquote hot spots. Most of them are storm sewer outfalls
and a lot of it has to do just with uh you know like dog waste, geese geese waste and there may be some co-mingled like you know broken sewer pipes but that the majority of it is is a function of uh pet and waterfell waste. Yeah,
Steve just a little extra tidbit today which which really got me excited. um talking to the DP, they mentioned that they mentioned like Wesley Lake and they're getting pressure from politicians uh to expand the pipe, the alpha pipe. And they're they're working,
which is excellent. Uh but what what the what he said was, gee, I'm worried about closing down the beaches when we they open up the pipe. And I said, number one, it it it empties out pretty quick. It's not like deal lake which takes a day and a half or two days to lower 12
in 12 in 12 in an inch out and we lower the common. Um Wesley Lake empty is a lot quicker. It's a lot smaller water. Um so I mentioned that and I also I said well you know what do you think about if we
team up with Wesley on you know doing the E.coli coli checks and I said, you know, we're thinking about doing some kind of ecoli checks and maintenance of of of the pipes. And we kind of discounted that because the 319 grants pays for that. And he and Bob said
there's a S uh SRF program, the state was it? Yeah. State revolving fund. Revolving fund which will will pay for that type of those are loans. They have been available. Um they've been available for
decades. I mean, you know, Peter's very aware of those types of of projects. Um but here's the key. The key was if it's it's proven that it's it's the the waste water was was damaging the the quality of the the lake water. Mhm. They can get
forgiveness. In other words, a stable payment. That's what he said. And I said, "Wow, that can't hurt." So we we can find we can put it in our proposal that we're going to do that. We'll include Wesley Lake in our in our study Wesley Sunset and the deal
and that would be the clean ocean action piece, right? They would do that testing and and we just report we work with the towns on on on summing on on the problem and finding broken piping with them and that's free for the most part. they need
to fix it or at least find it and then the funding in the face can be done. All right. I mean, we can just we can we can discuss that further. You know, tomorrow I'll go over some of that with Peter, too, because that starts to bleed
into MS4 and we can't correct. We can't be doing stuff that the towns are obligated to go through MS4. Definitely do the test when you're done. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just saying we can't use 319 money to cover MS4 compliance stuff,
right? Storms, storm drains and things like that. Yeah. Right. Sweeping streets. Got it. Okay. Um I think one second. Um another one. Ross Aolf Model University. They have a
kickoff on clonet on June 23rd, 2025. Uh it's going to be from 10:00 a.m. to 1 p.m. post this on the website. It's going to be Moniew University. It's going to highlight all their studies they're doing on the lakes. So we're included in that. So is the other links.
So the coastal lakes, right? Y um Okay, I think I got it. That's it. Any other new things? Um I'd like to just speak a minute. Um I was contacted by the um Environmental Shade Tree
Commission in Asbury Park and the Shock River Coalition which are asking that we help uh support the petition that's up to the governor to support the NJ real
rules. Um we've been sending out news and through the newsletters and on the website information about it, but just um for the commissioners too and share might want to share this kind of information um with those groups that
you work with or yourselves to sign the petition. Um you see behind me the picture of that's from the 2023 flood and then the following year they adopted those rules not because of that flood but that had been worked on for a long time. I'm going to ask Steve to talk
about the rules because he's very familiar with those but um I'm just going to I can put this up. Is this coming up? Can you see my I see some of it. See some of the screen. Yeah, I see
the website. Okay, let me let me put just let me try that again. Sorry, I just I should practice this. Oh, can you see it now? Yeah. Okay. So, it's on our website right now and it
says up uh please support NJ real rules and if you click on the watershed or link, it will take you to this where you can sign the petition down below um to
support this. And um I think it's something that's really important for us to to support and you know other lake groups are doing. So, uh, Steve, did you want to would you speak to what the real rules are about
and why that's important to people that that are advocates for lakes? Well, I mean, it was an update of the New Jersey storm water management rules NJC 7:8. It it basically, you know, once again promotes the implementation of or
the utilization of green infrastructure, uh, you know, to improve water quality, reduce flooding, etc. It applies specifically to new development and some forms of redevelopment. There's other aspects of it though that also apply to
um the flood stage where New Jersey is going to is advanced you know relative to all the other states in the country uh where we're using projected rainfall values as opposed to historic rainfall
values. So, we're going to have more realistic flood data, number one, as opposed to using data that's over 20 years old to project, you know, like uh flood elevations. And in addition to that, there's other some specific
language that applies to uh development in these flood hazard areas and the additional elevation of structures, I believe. And Peter, just correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's an additional 3
feet above the uh 100year flood elevation. Is it 3 feet or additional foot? I thought my comment is that the Gil Lake Commission should be very careful what they agree to support because these regulations have a very negative impact
on our coastal communities. All Steel Inter Lake and Lock Arbor all are going to have their flood hazard elevations elevated. so significantly 5 ft in some cases that the properties that currently are above
the flood hazard area elevation will no longer be and you'll may not even be able to get flood insurance. So we I've I've attended numerous webinars seminars on this and a number of people and a number of organizations are opposed to
that element of these rules. That's uh we probably shouldn't take it off our website for now, Genie, until we talk about it more, but uh we don't have authorization to put it on. So, I think it the storm water management part of it Steve talked about is very positive. Yeah, that's important. We all agree to that. All the towns have ordinances
supporting it, but the flood hazard elevation is very very different and they're basically forcing it on us. People have opposed it. We have a record study that that promoted it and then the study changed and lowered their elevations. But the state has uh not
agreed to support the lowering of the elevations and we got to talk more about it J. Okay, let's do that. I have, you know, I have to have a lawyer look at business comments. Um I don't think we have to vote on it right now, but if we can talk about it more vote on
Okay, I didn't look at it. Okay, thanks Stephen. Okay. A motion to open the meeting to the public. Second. Second. As Ray Park,
all in favor. Okay. Anybody? Just raise your hand or just jump in. Go ahead. Is that Bob? Bob. Yeah. Hey, can you hear me? Yeah. Hey, just real quick, um, our panel for De Lake Water Alliance is coming up next weekend.
Saturday the 24th, uh, 9:00 a.m. If anybody wants to sign up, I'll put Is that May 24th? May 24th. Two weeks, right? No. No, next week. Next weekend. Oh, now yeah.
So, um, yeah. I'm going to put the um the link into the chat for everybody who wants to sign up. Are you starting or what's that done? You gonna start again? Yeah, right. Right at the 7-Eleven. Right at the ramp. Okay. Are you headed north or south? We're going
to head up to the uh to the golf course. The to the deal lake golf course. Gota. The best this time of year it's the best time to see the birds. Great. All right. Thanks. Yeah. Sorry that I didn't know Bob. I would have put it out in the newsletter that just went
out. That's okay, Genie. Don't worry about it. Appreciate it. Wait, can we get a Facebook page? We get you guys. Do you have digs on that? Yeah, I'm going to put I think Facebook. Yeah, if you want to send it, I I can
put send it put it on the We can put it on the website and the Facebook page like Don said. Okay. Yeah, I just put the link in the chat, Genie. Okay. Thanks. Sure. Thanks for doing it. Everybody loves it.
Yeah, there's a lot of folks doing them these days. All of a sudden, there's a lot of other groups wanting to do uh paddles out there. So, I feel really good about it. Yeah. Okay, great. Anybody that knows there is I sent that out in the newsletter. The
Mammoth County Park System is now doing paddles on three lakes and Deal Lake is one of them. So this is the second time that they have chosen De Lake as a a lake to paddle on the out of their three. So that's because
they're padd That's why what the sheriff's out on the lake. That's why that's why. No, I don't I'm Anyway, yeah, if you want to join look at that though, you go to the Mammoth County Parks website and you can find the dates
for those three, but it's three lakes. It's, you know, you're committed to those three. That's what you when you pay your fee. Okay. Anybody else in the public? Okay, we'll close the public. A motion to close the public hearing. Second.
Second. All in favor? Oppos? And our next meeting is June 19th. Correct. Yes. Is Does anybody have a problem with that? And like just indicated last night that they are
changing their meeting date from the 18th to the 19th. So that could be a problem. Maybe you should look into that. What time is their date? 7 o'clock for a workshop. 7:30 for meeting. This is a holiday,
but the state doesn't recognize Junth. But the state doesn't This is ridiculous, too. Sorry to be this way, but if Junth is a holiday, why does the state take off June 20th? Do they not care about Junth? I'd like them to answer that.
The professionals had a problem. So, they have a 4-day weekend. When meeting dates, is any everybody available on June 18th? Sure. June what? June 18th the day before Sunday be here on the 19th we could be here on
the 18th you want to make a motion 18 make a motion to move meeting to the 18th second approval we voting on June 18th then yes 17. All in favor? I hybrid June. Thank you.
Oh, great. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She'll be fine because they're not meeting on the So, this Okay. So, it is what you need. Um, Commissioner, let's let's go a minute. But speaking of Lori, I was
I've been noticing a lot of construction around town and I I'm working the business in other municipalities where adulting is always required around areas of, you know, significant disturbance. And I think that I'm going to go see if I can talk with about maybe making that
part of the construction of the permit. Um it would help contain little debris and um you know make sure that things stay away. Time is good for that because they just had a property they asked me to look at
after construction was finished and I said this is required drilled soil permit and they never mandated it. So they understand now that construction and zoning have to process if if it's more than 5,000 square ft of request.
Yep. And and actually the burough could adopt an ordinance requiring uh you know soil erosion controls on every property which is not the bridge. Yeah.
Not that excited. Um just try continually trying to make people realize that what they do at their house, you know, what they put on their lawn, if they wash their car in the driveway, what chemicals they power wash their house with, you know, trickles down to the curb and goes into
De Lake and that everything is connected. [Music] Yeah. And it's connected to the ocean, too. That actually speaks to what I was thinking. I walking the dog and rain yesterday. There's some construction going on around here. The mud in the gutter, but the water in the gutter was
filled with sediment that was running off of property. Well, I think we're just continuing doing what we're doing and with the projects and trying to get more grants so we can hope to clean up the lake. I know what happened to the we were doing
the islands for a while. It was that other treatment. You mean that was years ago? That was in 2016 now. Yeah. We built them. They're still out there. Still out there, but they're floating around. They're floating. Can we do more?
No, right. Not right now. Um, we can do our own with our own money. Um, a deal like that, they don't make a lot of sense. It makes more sense in smaller funds. Um, they do better. They do well at sunset. They make very
unes around for a while. But they were they actually Oh, the big news on Wesley. The family swans weren't on our Yep. That was a picture. Yeah.
So that's that's a big deal in West. So Wow. And there are No, I was I was just thinking if we had more island, I mean, we only I don't know how many we put up, but if we did more 15, but it's a big lake. 15 is not enough,
right? Yeah. But there, you know, for a big lake like this, it doesn't make sense. maintaining them because they they move sometimes to be pulled out of to get geese to find geese like them. We had spruce fence initially but the geese in
the early season they do make nests there. There was there was one on sunset good Mr. Well, I'd just like to compliment you, Don, and Pete for uh all your perseverance on CB Square and thanks, you know, finally
that's moving. I've been on this committee a long time and you know, we've always talked about what the impact of CB square has on our deal lake. So, taking these steps, it's a big deal. Congratulations between that and the flow. We're good
to go. moving the bill. We know at some other that's someday making it 19th hole in North put build a area by deals. That's my vision someday.
Okay, Jean. Um I No, thank you. I I already said what I needed to say, so thanks. Okay. Me, you know what? Being a grandfather first time. Congratulations. So happy for you. I
don't have any pictures to show you on this. That's good. So, the kids were pretty good. He went home from the hospital today. He was there for about a week because his temperature was low and they got him up and they got his he got beefed up a little bit and he he was a problem.
That's right. They were he did wear a little green. I thought he was a Sonic fan for a while. Sir, all is good. Congratulations. Yeah. Thanks. Thanks. Okay, that's all I got. Thanks. Motion to second.
All in favor? I thank Were you there the whole time? Yes. No. Um, yeah. I joined like 10 minutes after because I was just jumping off another meeting and just did you hear the good news about the the what
they're talking about with Wesley this really good idea? Yep. Okay, that's it. We'll talk more tomorrow. Thanks.