We're here everybody for the uh the June meeting DA commission. Let's uh let's start. I'm going to share the screen with you guys and we'll get we'll get the flag going and we'll do the pledge of allegiance, please. I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Two, the notice requirements of the open
public meetings act for this meeting have been met by transmitting the notice of the regular meeting to the commissioner's official newspaper on February 6, 2025, posting the notice where required, and finally a copy of the notice with the commission clerk. The delay commission meeting will be
audio and videotaped and will be shown on APV optimum 77 and throughout most of Mammoth County on FiOS 28. So on your screen it's being shown as I know I'm I'm knocking it off. I'm going to take
the roll call down. Go ahead. Alanhurst present. Asbury Park here. Deal. Interlac, I'm here. Lock Arbor here. Neptune
and Ocean here. You ready? Done. Can we keep? Okay. Okay. Tonight we have a resolution to approve the minutes of the regular meeting for May 15, 2025. Do I have someone offer? I'll offer. Thank you. Second.
Lincoln. Second. Okay, in favor I I opposed. Can we get the share off? Yeah, I have to go get something to Don. I thought I It should be off. It's
not. What's the share? Hold on. All I'm seeing is a is a big Z blank Zoom screen. Hold on. Um G Kent, if you just shut share off that you're
Yeah, I did. I thought share. I'm just sh It should be off. Not I'm here. I'm here. Hold on. Hey, Kenny. We haven't gotten any further. Ready to do the Oh my god, it's wavy outside. Is
it? Oh yeah. Yes. I had my windows open. Oh boy, here it comes. Yeah to do it for me. There we go. Am I still my window? No, Don. We we we
can see everybody now. Okay, perfect. So, tonight we have a resolution to approve the treasures report and pay bills. Marggo, did you get the report? Yes, that's what I was going to get my iPad for because I needed the larger
print. I like your honesty. Would you like me to read it? Yes, please. Balance on hand previous month $180,98069. Uh total receipts $10,563.31. So total availables $191,544,000. Um dispersements
$8,97 total balance $182,637. Perfect. Someone offer to pay the bills and the passive treasures report. I'll offer Asbury Park. Thank you. Second. Thank you. Alanhurst.
Yes. Asbury Park. Yes. Inter Lakeen. Yes. L Arbor. Yes. And Ocean. Yes. Okay. Don, you're up. The new grant. Okay. The um our storm water management grant for
CV mall has be has begun. We got the official sign off. I think last meeting we had had that understood. Uh Peter's team is is is doing the specifications for the the RFP. uh next meeting we're we're going to authorize authorize the plans and uh hopefully
we'll get you some electronic information before the next meeting so you have I most most of you have an idea right we're we're going to be the the area around between the old Acme which is now Mammoth County Social Services I believe that's what they call it and the
uh pet Petco pet the Petco building pet that area is a as a swale as a stream going through uh there's two locations one the main entrance coming in from Applebees. Uh there'll be the on the east side we're doing a pond or or or containment area I call it. And then the
also on the the west side we're going to do a containment area. So Don, did you want Steve to explain Peter's memo a little bit more about the project? Sure. Steve, go ahead. Yeah, I can. Um ta Steve Dr. Dr. Susher. Yeah, I'm here.
I'm sorry. I just had I just had to unmute myself. Um yeah, so Peter and I, you know, went over things this morning and uh we've already like alluded to the fact that, you know, the basic concept with this project at C view square is like to keep it as simple as possible
and use the existing storm water collection system as much as possible. So there's not like you know a tremendous amount of reworking of the site and tearing it up and all the costs associated with that. So the focus is to
put is to install four manufactured treatment devices and that's going to be along the north side of the loop road. So as you enter from Route 66, technically south, Steve, what's that?
Technically the south side it it's it's the north north side of that area. Yeah. Yeah, it's the it it's the Yeah. Well, Peter and I have been calling it the northerly side of Okay. Loop goes all here. It's not up by
Costco. It's it's it's in front of in front of the park. So, right. It's on the opposite side where like Sears used to be and it's on that side. So, if you're entering from Route 66, you you know would be that portion of the loop road that you would encounter. So, in any event, we're going to be putting in
four manu manufactured treatment devices. Peter's team had to go back out and do some reassessment of the site to uh you know just bring everything up to speed. Uh and there's four rain gardens that are going to be uh installed as
well. And those uh would be adjacent to and between the proposed manufactured treatment device installations. Uh again, we're trying to keep this as simple as possible so it's effective, but it's easy to inspect and maintain.
Maintenance, as you know, with these MTDs is a big deal. And uh we already have some cooperation from CV Square. So, we're just going to like, you know, continue to uh you know, work with that cooperative that cooperative um you
know, thing in mind. So, in in any event, I'm going to be be meeting with Peter sometime on in the span of the next 3 weeks or so when they get some more of their details worked out. We'll start to develop um he's already got some
specifications that he's developing for the manufactured treatment devices. We'll get a better sense of the size of the rain gardens that will be installed and then we can start thinking about, you know, some lowmaintenance vegetation for those rain gardens. The final thing
is that we're trying to modify the outfall from that entire system as it goes under route 35. So the concept is to modify that existing culvert in some capacity
so that it detains flow for a longer period of time within C view without it compromising any of the functionality of the existing storm water collection system. Doing so should help decrease flood flows, you know, and the erosiveness
associated with that that kind of goes down and rips up through colonial terrace. So, um, those are the things that, you know, we have underway. We do have a budget that we have to be cognizant of. Right now, we have roughly
about $630,000 in the grant for installation and construction of these green infrastructure MTDs. Um, and that includes the rain gardens and the outlet control structure. So, uh, we're trying to work all within those, you know,
whatever you, you know, confines, funding confines. And, um, I think we're we're in a really good place at this point. That was a very good explanation. Thank you, Steve. I have one question. Is there a different name for this three?
We keep saying 319 grant and this one. Could you tell me the exact name of this one? Yeah, I got to go back and look at it to be quite honest with you, Genie, to get the exact, but this is with the um
uh inflation reduction act money, right? We've been calling it the storm water management grant or something. Yeah, I think that's probably the best thing to call it, but it it wasn't through the, you know, 319 is money that comes through section 319 of the Clean Water
Act. This was money that was appropriated through the Biden administration uh as part of the u you know that IRA. Yeah, this is federal grant money. It is. It is federal money.
Correct. Got it. Okay, great. And not to be confused with the other grant application that we just submitted, which is a 3198 grant application. Um, and that's with and that's with clean ocean action to update the
existing uh watershed based plan which deal has one of only seven approved plans in the entire state. So, we're looking to update that plan to provide
greater ability to respond to E. coli contamination of the lake. Right. Okay. But getting back to this one, we've got, you know, Peter and his guys have done a lot of work. They did have to go back out and do some
additional ground truthing. Uh but um we're in a position now where um you know he's already started go going through with getting the specs for the MTDs and like I said in about 3 weeks we'll be figuring out the size and the
uh planting plan for the rain gardens suggestion that uh in the future for agendas could we just identify these 319 grants as storm the first one the first one is NJD stormwater management grant
for C view mall on the agenda. Uh new new old business old business right under NJD store management. Right. Okay. Good. Thank you. And Don can't get into the meeting. He was kicked out.
That's why he was so quiet and didn't interrupt. All right. Yeah. So then when we call the next one the new 319 grant. That's what I have on the agenda. Okay. D 319H grant under new business and we'll
call that like whatever. But this one is listed as the storm water management grant for C view mall. Yeah. I think I think the easiest thing for everybody to remember is the one that we're working on on right now is the C view mall storm water project. Exactly. The one in the
future if we get the money will be an update of the plan. There's there's no construction associated with the new one. Right. Right. Okay. Thank you. Uh Don's having trouble getting in. I guess Ken's still there, I assume. Yeah, Ken's still still here. He
must have dropped off. Has he tried to re-enter again? I haven't seen any. Uh he said he's been trying to get back in. Yeah, cuz I don't see I don't see him trying to get back in. Maybe maybe
just texted him asking if you can get back. I was wondering how he let you talk so long, Steve. How much on the second grant is is are we looking for? How much on the second grant? Yeah. Um I want to, you know, I I
don't have the number right at the tip of my tongue, but I want to say it's somewhere around I want to say it's around 250,000 somewhere around there. It does involve a tremendous amount of sampling. to um you know it builds on the work that we've been doing with Clean Ocean
Action, but there is a tremendous amount of sampling that's conducted uh to better identify these locations around the entire watershed where we had history of elevated E.coli and um you
know get the additional data we need then to figure out how do we fix this? What's the cause and how to fix it? You know, some of it could be, as we had the last time, that was a freak, you know, accident where we had a sewer line break, but in other situations, it could
be runoff from um, you know, given areas where there's a lot of like, you know, goose and pet waste. So, it's just a matter of like trying to figure this all out and then once we once we have that information, then we'll be able to better identify what type of remedial
action needs to be implemented and that will be part of the plan. I mean, we'll identified all these storm water projects. We'll identify a whole bunch of projects then that should be implemented to decrease ecoli loading to the lake. Steve, I I
have a question um about I know you were saying you're going to use you want to use clean ocean action, but um will does this grant or do you intend to use the uh county health department? Um we'll
we'll use we'll make use of any data that we have but no clean ocean action is partner that will end up you know uh conducting the sampling. So any any data that we do use from the county will be
existing data historical data. Okay. I'll be touching on Hey guys, I'll be touching on the county a little later in the discussion. They're out of the testing business. Okay, that's the bottom line. Can you guys hear me? Yes. They've been
talking about the new 319H. No, I figured I figured Sorry. I mean, my internet's down at my house. It's just uh it's down. Oh, without a doubt. Oh my god. Sounded like something really close by came came
by our houses, Don. I Yeah, I can really feel it. Yeah. Yeah. So, we're up to shoreline protection. Well, let me let me go over that real quick and I I'll have Jeanie come in. Uh Jeie, myself and Steve had a great session with the
county the state T and Tom's River and basically it's the enforcement arm um of the D. The um and I I thought they actually did the reviews of the any proposals that are happening on the lake. I I got the opinion that the people there were not involved with that
which is a whole another discussion someday. But they were great. They're very uh very open. They were honest. They said basically they're backlogged all the cases that we had. They they they're still working them because a lot of people left. So, they're back on it
that we have one person uh Madison that that's that's working the projects along with our old friend Tammy who came back to help him after retirement. And uh they're they're going to we gave him examples two examples of problems we've seen on a lake. And in both examples,
they have not they have not gone after him because they lost the photos and videos and various other things. So we we provided all that the next day. I think the same day I provided it to Madison. So she was very appreciative. And since then we actually had
additional cases dealing with a dock and some modifications on a property um and another issue with with clearing clearing land and possible chemical use which turned out not to be. Um, and those cases were immediately jumped on. Uh, especially a chemical one. And it
turned out that the pesticides were pesticides that were re that were feared were not used. Um, it was just a guy cut his notweed down the backyard, but still a cleared property. So, they're going to be working that. But great great job by
Jeanie gathering up these people and and they were all on there. They the supervisors, the workers, and we had a great what hour and a half discussion. So, J, you go ahead. Okay. Uh, let's see. Well, you've covered a lot, but uh
the the it was June 5th that we met. We met with six people, including top officials from two enforcement bureaus, like Don said, uh, four officials from the Bureau of Coastal and Landuse Compliance and two officers, officials from Bureau of Water Compliance and
Forbesment. So, two separate bureaus. Um we Don, Steve and I established an objective of the meeting and sent it to them um ahead of time and I think that that well the me the objective was to get to know each other, get a better
understanding of enforcement's role and to communicate our concerns about lake shoreline damage and outline some ways we could develop a reliable dependable relationship that helps to support our mutual goals. So I I feel I think Steve
and Don you both would say that that meeting met that objective, right? Oh, without a doubt. Without a doubt. The last time we met was five years ago. Wow. Yeah. So, and in that time, you
know, they did assign one person, which was something we had asked five years ago, if they would assess one person from the bure burrow bureau, and they have one person for land use and one person for water. Uh, they're separate anyway. So, but um yeah, so and both of
those people attended the meeting and as Don said, he expressed uh you know, concerns about two egregious offenders and they assured us that you know they had what what you know, you've heard us come to the meetings and we come to the meetings and say, well, I've been trying
to reach them and they keep telling me they don't have their staff together, they're short. So finally this meeting I mean you know this was like okay we're all here you know and um we're we're ready to go and we really have everybody
hired and trained and that you can expect we expect we will be far more responsive to your reports your to permits. Um they applauded us on our efforts to educate the public. They had read the pamphlet um that lakefront
homeowners pamphlet and they said the language in the information it um will really help in um getting the information well just so they're it won't be so hard for them because people will they'll be able to say well you know this information is circulating.
Um Madison who's our land use enforcer for said she's not experienced confusion that we had described was going on 5 years ago. So it's really diminished. Um and we were glad to know that. I think there's uh one other thing that we
talked about. Um they said that they are going to let us know um and give us a kind of a report too as they investigate different things so we don't have to wonder what's going on. if if there's been an incident
that's been reported to them and they're going along to investigate it or to uh remediate it in whatever way, they're going to um include a way. We just have to figure out who they're going to send that to, right? We didn't decide on
that. So when I I wrote back to thank them for the meeting and I'm going to send them minutes of our meeting. But at that in that email I'll also tell them and Don Steven whoever wants to be in on that we can decide who's going to be responsible for getting this stuff from
NJ um you know when it comes to compliance issues. Well it's it's probably going to be the people whoever wrote whoever writes case numbers up. I do a bunch of them, but if you write a case number up, I would say you would get the you would
take the baton and stay with it. So, um that that'd be the best choice. That that's not one person. I would say the person that actually knows the subject better um whatever commissioner it is. So, all right. So, that's not what we said when we talked with them, but Well,
yeah, but it might be we might be a focal point and final point, but there's definitely got to be a belly button to each case. um that that's that's given. It's if if it's in one your town or your my town, it it would want to be one of us or or Allen's interl or whatever. So
that's how I see it. Well, I think what we were talking about was trying to keep something so that everybody kind of knows, you know, so the commission is aware of what's happening when people if whether it's Oh, you're talking No, you're talking the other that was another subject about um building
permits. That that was something different. Yeah. Yeah, I got you on that. You know, I'm talking about I'm talking about the enforcement piece, right? And I think that what what they got out of it, what I got out of it was we were saying people submit um complaints and
we don't know what's going on. And you gave a couple of examples of that. So they said that they would be willing to do that to let the commission know when there are incident reports and then what they're doing to remediate what whatever
they're doing so that we're up on everything. We said we'd like to know that clarification G the clarification on that is they can't they can't tell us something they haven't done yet. In other words, they have to give the notice of violation.
they have to issue that to the the person or the company or whatever and then they can give it to us. They can't do it beforehand because it's it's it's basically it's kind of a legal issue because it has to go through the legal department. So, we won't get we wouldn't get it until we might know that it's
being accepted and they're looking into it, but we may not know the details until after the NOVs and that that's what we were asking for. We want to know where are. So they said they would do that and I think that was great because that would that was one of the things we expressed was that you know people put
in um incident reports but then we never know what happens and so the commission the commission doesn't know so we're going to ask them and that's what I was saying we could talk about this at another time it was bottom line it was a great meeting and I thank you for
arranging it and uh I just want everybody to know that was good. So let's let's move on. Um I I I think I see Mr. Steve Felman at Allenhurst Representative. Steve, are you there? I just want to welcome you to your first meeting. And uh yeah, good. Can I just say one thing
because I don't think everybody knows this. This is one thing that they did tell us. They said that if there are violations on on properties that people can be re can they may not be able to sell a property. If a house is in
violation um and that person is trying to do something they can get held up from a a lot of other things. But among the the other things that can happen with violations is that um they can be uh there can be an order that they're not
allowed to sell their house. So I think that was something I didn't know. I don't know. Almost like a lean almost like a lean on the property. Right. Can there be a stop work order? I'm sorry. Can there be a stop work order?
I don't know how they enforce it, but I mean they don't do that fast. But it doesn't matter. I just thought it was important that people know that there are actually some pretty severe kinds of penalties that can happen, especially with repeat violators. Hey, Jamie, let's
we we'll we'll let's send the notes notes to them, get their confirmation of what we said, and then we can pass it along to everybody once they confirm everything that's that's correct. So, all right. Very good. Um again, Mr. Felman, welcome and uh glad glad you
could be here. Uh next weed treatment. Uh we awarded the contract and the weed treatment. Uh not no actions yet. Steve, have you heard anything from the weed guys? There's nothing to treat as of yet. You know, I think the uh you know, some of the issue has been the turbidity has been at so high. It's similar to
last year that we haven't really observed any weed growth. I'm going to take another look when I'm I meet with Peter, but to date it doesn't look like there's anything that that requires their action. Gotcha. Thanks. Um 25 2025
goose management plan. I it's I think it worked well. I mean, I saw a a couple of geese in Lake of Nate Babies and a couple in Colonial Terrace and I'll be honest with you, that's all I've seen around the immediate lake area. Don Don, there's a block around Fireman's Pond.
farmer's pond. Yeah. Well, I think it's past the uh past the trading stage. Yeah, there's I try to get a report or at least initial numbers uh for this meeting, but I I didn't get a call back on that. So, but I think that might be
an area. Yeah, that might be an area we want to look at next year. Yeah, we got you know what, we could train we could train more people to look around for the geese. That's kind of the key because that's kind of out of the zone. So we have folks who we know we should talk to them about that. I know a few folks that
we can talk to. If they see a nest, say something, right? See something, say something. That's the best way to do it. Yes, we have had a couple people do that this year. We did get reports through the Yeah, I think I think we did really good. I think the numbers are going to
be surprising everybody. Um oil spill remediation. We had this discussion last time. I did call the LSRP. Uh, I had a nice discussion with the gentleman. I followed up with an email. Um, and I'm sorry, they followed up with an email
and I they basically said to me, "Well, you're they said they called it a bay catcher." Then the Bay Saver MTD on Memorial did a great job. It basically caught all the oil before I went in the lake. And I said, "No, that's not a true statement." I said we had a lot of oil and oh by the
way before the Bay catcher were there MTD it was leaking in for years maybe decades so I am I'm waiting to hear back from them but we know Carol knows the people that clean the lake in the inner lake inside Aspbury side know there's a
massive amount of oil in that lake on the shoreline that's stuck in the muck so we're asking them to clean it up. So I haven't heard back um that we did correspond once and then twice. So they know what the deal is. I believe the pipe that goes from basically um Gizzy
Gifts where the MTD is uh right in front of Galley Pizza comes down that pipe still has oil residue and during rainstorms you can see it. I'm sure if you walked that pipe right now you would see oil coming out of the pipe. So they still have to do a cleaning of the pipes
or MTD and they need to do remediation of the lake and and we're going to stay on it. Is is Paul on the call? I I My Paul Fern Nicole. No, he's in Ireland. No. No. Okay. Okay. So, I got to talk to him about legal action because we don't want to do that. But
the bottom line is we're going to we're going to have to start talking to him in those terms soon. Don, why um why is the DA commission doing that? It isn't because it's our lake. We're overseeing the lake. But it's also a an NJD thing,
isn't it? I mean, shouldn't they be Yeah, they're they're in the loop. They're in the loop, too. They're in the email. Oh, okay. They're in the email. The county the county folks know it. They're the hazmat teams also. Okay, good. I I guess from what I guess I misunderstood. I thought Yeah, we got
key people are on there and and that we've gotten it was a nice email back from her, but she was under misconception that the oil was caught and the MD caught a lot of the oil without a doubt. It saved the lake from a lot of damage. But we know Carol knows
because Carol's got her hands dirty literally. Is that correct, Carol? Yes. And have a lot of photos that I sent to you, Don, over over the years. We have lots of photos. So, we've been sending pieces of the photos. We haven't sent them all the photos, but we have a lot
of photos and recent photos of of of just raintorms, normal raintorms with the oil leaking out. So, it's got to be from that pipe. Well, is that water enforcement? Who's deal who's in that water water enforcement? The same similar guys that did the sewers spill
too. But it's a it's a next it could be a step up higher because oil contamination is a hazmat situation which you know gets the state and the county involved. So it gets both groups involved. So anyway, they're they're involved. Everybody's on board. They
know about it. There's a cleanup and this company's trying to build 216 apartment buildings in that site. And uh I'm sure they want to get it cleaned up as soon as possible so they can continue that effort. So we're going to stay on them. I'll let people might remember
people might remember years ago like when we had those um oil absorbent boons out there and we couldn't figure out where the oil was coming from. Right. Yeah. 2018 I think it was right Carol. Yeah. It's been a while. It's been a long time. Yeah. Yeah. And we had this
we had about 20 different folks out there with we had so many booms it almost filled up that whole area and then they wanted them back. Right. And they took our they took our boom the boom we spent $700 for it installed.
They took it and never returned it. But that's a whole another story. Okay. So that's it for the oil spill. Any questions on that? Who took the booms back? The county. The county removed all the booms that we
had. We had a a a five. It was a 50 foot. It was a 50 50 foot boom and it went down three feet in the lake and stopped all the It stopped all the Maybe maybe Jeie wasn't on the commission. I I've seen probably commission. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen that boom
before, but yeah, it was a yellow took It was a big yellow boom. Yep. Corner. Okay. I didn't know who took it. and we asked we f we we asked for it back multiple times and they've been dancing around it. But um anyway, it's it's been
a interesting story. Anyway, all right, let me keep on rolling here. Um I asked the county, same group that took our booms, exactly the same. I asked them for if they're going to retest the E. coli uh at the bridges like they did in
2017 18. Um and they they finally got back to me. They didn't they were playing tupone tag. We finally talked two days ago and um they said they they no longer have that capability. Um so that's a sad statement, right? Uh they lost all their testing capability and
and basically just oversight of of testing. So um we can no longer use them for that. Which um which department within the health department was it? It's a hazmat team. Hazmat. Yep. Hazmat team. M
county. I wonder if it's the um Dan Dan's Dan I forgot Dan's last name. Dan Id have to look it up, but Dan Dan's the main guy or one of the the key guys there that I deal with. Um Santana or something like that is is another guy, but it's it's it's the county hazmat
team. When you call when there's a hazmat spill dealing in a lake or waterway, they these guys come out to inspect. Right. But this is for bacteria like E.coli, right? So anyway, I was just thinking u in the past what what
what Marty Martino did was he wrote a letter and requested that I hear you I hear you Jeannie, but this was this was I don't know if Marty had anything to do with this. This was a a a shoreline state Mammoth County effort for the
lakes along the beach to see what what contaminates are going into the ocean. That's why they did it and that's what That's that it was a great study. They did a great job, but they no longer have that capability. So, I just want to say that um I'm going to move on. Um that I
I think that's all I have to say. There's nothing else to say on um we are going to be obviously looking at testing with with Clean Ocean action. We still have some money on the table for testing ecoli um with test the piping, you know, the the we've been testing pipes with
dry days and wet days. uh we'll continue that and we can go back and do some sample testing especially in the Azri park site and we can do some other bridges in lie of the other the other pieces we're doing and we keep our fingers crossed on the grant that Steve was talking about the new 319 grant that
we teamed up with with Queen Ocean Action and the reason we teamed up with them was because the the state gave us a big tip and the tip was that you can repair the sewer lines if you the the the sewer author parties can get loans
through a a loan set loan program for the state. If it's found out the the contamination or break in in the sewer lines contaminated a waterway, they can forgive the loans. And I said, "It's not related to 319s." And they said, "No,
it's not." So the 319 money can be used for testing and evaluation and redoing of our our our storm water management plan. And we get it's a two-edged sword. So we we capture the data from the storm storm pipes all around the lake in
Sunset Lake. Sunsets's included in this too which is part of the wershed. And we capture it. We know it. We we if it's high, we talk to the sewer authorities. They inspect they find a leak and they can if they if it's it's a major leak, they can borrow money to fix it. Now, I
don't know what Asbury did with the situation on the sewer pipe on Memorial, um how they pay for that, but there are there are methods to get reimbursed by the state. So, Genie, you may want to mention that to them. That'd be kind of key. Um if you got time on that,
I can go over that offline with you, Genie. Okay. Yeah, do that. Would you? I I would appreciate that. Okay. But it's it's it's you know, it could be big money. It could be I'm sure that was hundreds of thousands of dollars what the Aspbury did to fix that sewer sewer break. And for some people that don't
know that, you know, we had a break in the line during right the day of the the cleanup. We had a sewer line break as by the high school and uh as stopped in about two hours, but we had we had sewer water in the in in the in the lake and it took a lot of effort. Two weeks of
effort for them to fix it. Yeah. Yeah. To fix it. And they found they fixed one sewer sewer pipe and two storm water pipes. So they eliminated two problems. They had storm water being poured into the sewer line and and every time it
rained and then they also when it it backed up the sewer backed up and went into the storm water into the lake. So pretty wild but that was that was a big that was a big fix. So thanks to Asdar. Okay. Any other old business by the way?
No. Okay. Let's go to new business. Um various deal. The um the deal matter I talked about a little bit was the the two cases. We got the one with the vegetation that somebody thought that chemicals were being spilled on because the the lily pads were dis disintegrating.
the the state went the next day, knocked on the door of the homeowner and investigated, found there was no chemicals placed and the guy just cut the knotweed and left it to die and it looked it really looked like chemicals were used. Um, but the state determined
there was no chemicals used. So that was that was a quick quick response. Within a day they were there. So I was very impressed. Um, okay. Uh Jesse, we have a resolution. A resolution recognizing July 2025 as Lake
Appreciation Month. We usually do this every year. Um I'll draw up the resolution and we'll send it over to non. That's where I usually send it. Right, Steve? I'll offer that. Genie or Jesse? Okay. Second. Yes. Asbury
Allen. Yes. Yes. Asbury Park. Yes. Interlac is Carol there. Carol. Uh oh. She might be hit by a lightning storm.
Oh, she could he could see her screen. Thumbs up. Thumbs up. I think she's there. I can't see her. Maybe it's muted. I'm sorry. Oh, there you are. Step away for one second. I'm back. We're um
recognizing July 2025 as lake appreciation month. Yes. Okay. Luck Arbor. Yes. And Ocean. Wherever he Oh, do we lose him?
He froze. He's frozen. He'll have to come back in again, I guess. Um Okay. So, we went we went over a little bit of the new 319 grant. Steve, do you want to give anything to add to it?
No, I think we've covered all of the basics. I mean, you know, like I said, it's it's a we don't that the new grant, it's just an application at this point. We're still waiting to hear back from D.
in time, but um yeah, and it's a it's a a you know, project partner with Clean Ocean Action. And yeah, hopefully we'll hear something positive on it within the next couple of months. D he is typically
pretty slow about um announcing. Bye. His phone overheated. Don's phone overheated. Oh my god. Sorry. Now he's calling back. Yes. Do you want me to put you up to
Oh, all right. I'm putting him on speaker. Oh, boy. Can you Can you hear? Okay. Yes. Okay. My phone over my phone overheated. I got a big thermometer on my phone.
Okay. Yeah. My hot hands, I guess. I don't know. Holy mackerel. Anyway, I put I just put it in the freezer. Maybe I'll get it by the end. Don, go ahead. We're up to insurance. Carol, can you keep rolling? I'll I'll talk, but just keep right. I'll have to
Don, I don't know anything about about a lot of the stuff that you subject. We're up to the insurance. Oh, okay. Insurance. Steve, you were done, right? Doc Steve. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Insurance. The
um we have two insurance policies. one being looked at is for the director's insurance and I gave that to get Ricky to work on Jesse. Did you see that? Yes. Okay. And then the other piece is the payment for our our overall coverage or
the uh the umbrella basically umbrella policy, right? The general liability. I I don't know. We never got a bill. So, I'm a little scratched my head on that one. Oh, from insurance we're covered, but we never got a bill. Do you want me to check on that? Yeah. Yeah, check that
with Oceantown. I don't you we got to pay somewhere down the road. Yep. Okay. Okay. Jeannie, you you have the wildflower area. They're they're still cutting it. I I looked, they cut it today. Okay. Well, I I
talked to APPPW, the head of it. He said he doesn't know why they're why they did that because everybody knows they're not supposed to. But what he did was he sent a guy over to stake it out. So to indicate that don't cut here and so it shouldn't happen anymore, but you know
hopefully they'll I was there about 4:00. They cut the stakes too. I They weren't there. There was no stakes stuck in the ground. Zero. They cut the steak. They mowed the stakes. I don't know. There was no stakes there. I don't think Oh, okay. Well, maybe they
didn't do it yet, but he said there he was sending someone over to do that to snake it out so that they they know where the There's probably 30 geese down there hanging out and they're walking right in front of the flume. Maybe they'll maybe they'll mow over the geese
while they're mowing the flowers. I didn't say that. It won't be a It won't be a great loss of my eyes. No, they're protected species. Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. Um, and we talked
about the the do case we talked about already. Uh, the Coastal Lake Summit on the 26th. Um, I'm going to be there. Genie, are you going to be there, Genie or not? Yeah. Yeah, I go to everyone. Are you going, Steve? I'm giving a presentation. Um, and if Jeie, if there's anything
that you need to say on the testing, I I don't know. I think they do the piece of the testing. So, I'm just going to update them on De Lake. Yeah, they That's right. on the lake. Yeah, they they do a presentation on all the lakes, the testing, and go through the newest
information. Okay. So, I'll I'll give a couple slides on that and get them up up to speed on what we're doing. Um, and that's that. Any any other ideas? Anybody want want me to include anything on that? Well, we just uh last year Steve and I gave a
presentation to everybody. I mean, I don't know if you I don't know. send me a copy. I don't want to repeat, you know, just shoot me that if you don't mind. We can send that to you. I'll try to go above and beyond that in terms of
the meeting is Monday, June 23rd, not the 26th. What's that? Oh, yeah. 20. I'm sorry. Typo 23rd. You It's Monday, right? Yes. It's Monday, June 23rd. Okay. Monday. Okay. Um,
the county has requested us. I got a call from Sean Sean Golden and he they were discussing a a a system alert system that they are using around the Bayshore and I think they have it in Shark River. They might have it in
Masquin. Uh, but it's a system. It's basically a weather station and they bolt it to one of the the bridges, probably the Main Street Bridge, Nasbury. Um, and I was listening intently and and then they they dropped it. They said, "Well, it's got to be
around $12,000." And I said, "What?" So, I I'm going to get I have Josh and my son talk to them. They're pretty knowledgeable on the technology stuff and and see what what
what it's all about. We I got some basic information, but it's it's cool. Uh, I kind of would love to help them. Uh, and and it could help us, too. Um, and it it actually has a laser system that measures the water height and there's
excessive amount of water coming in. It can alert us at a certain time or at least the OEM people, they can alert us. I think we can be tied into it, too. We pretty we have a pretty good grasp on that already. Um, but it can't hurt having additional eyes on.
Um, wait. Did you look at that yet? I'm sorry. Did you? I don't know if you've got a copy of that. Did you Did I send it to you yet? Who? Steve. Steve. Doctor, is he frozen? No, he's
not. Are you speaking to Steve? Which Steve? Like five Steve. I know, right? a lot of ste I'll get a copy to but the I'll get a copy everybody but it's it's it's it's
interesting uh but it is $12,000 so I haven't talked about maybe getting a you know split the bill or whatever but you know conceptually we can we can maybe get do it I think in the August meeting we could discuss more right before the hurricane season and maybe we get one installed where do we have but it would
cost money would I don't know where the money would come from probably from you know lake M or the lake we don't have the money for we have a grant we have grants new I know I we got to be careful so if we can do some kind of you know lower cost option that would be great we
can do that so we'll talk more about it with them uh but it's going to be tied into the overall network county I thought that was pretty cool idea so and they've been they've been very gracious with us with you know boat boat patrols and things like that on the lake u so
Okay. Uh let's keep on going. Don, I I wanted to say Jeie wants to say something. Um just had jumped from uh the coastal from Clonet to the the storm alert system. So there's something I did want to say regarding Clonet. Um and this is for
everybody and the public too is that um we I sent out something for our newsletters. I think everybody knows or who if you don't uh Mammoth University trains people to do water sampling of deal lake and um periodically we send
out requests when we need people uh there I think there are seven uh water testers on the lake at any given time but right now we do need three new pe new people who are interested in being trained. They provide everything that
you need to do the training and Carol and I have both gone to those sessions and it's great. I mean really interesting and they give you everything you need and then you just test the water. Um the commitment is twice a month during the um uh warmer weather
and once a month during the winter and it you can be anywhere on the lake that is you know usually somewhere they need someone but usually also you can pick a place you'd you'd prefer to be to test the water and then all that data gets
uploaded um and and the the um the clonet meeting that Don's talking about on Monday is where all the people that have been testing the lake, the coastal lakes come together and they talk they
tell us about the results of all this testing and it's pretty interesting. There's always really interesting speakers. So, they invite the water samplers to come and it's a nice time for people to um meet other people from other coastal lakes and find out what's
happening with the lakes. Maybe we get maybe get the coaster Jean to uh do a little a little pitch for us to see if we can get additional testers. That would be that would hurt. Well, I right now I just got one reply. Uh can you know it goes to contact. So I sent it
out through the newsletter and I've already got one person and then we just need two more people. So usually we put it I'm going to put it on Facebook. It usually we get pretty good response. So we're really really
on Facebook. So, we have a good group of, you know, of community activists that really want to be involved with the lakes. So, uh, so far we haven't had a problem filling those positions, but I just wanted to let everybody know that. And, um, yeah, we could we could put it
out there if you, you know, I can write a little, um, something for the newspaper. It's a it's a good activity to do with your your kids or your parents or a sibling. It's it's it's it's really
interesting. Yeah. How many times a month is it? I'm sorry. I couldn't hear you. Twice twice a month in the warmer in the warmer months and then once a month during the winter. All right. Okay. And if you couldn't do it
one month, nobody's, you know, banging on your door saying, "Why weren't you out there?" I mean, it's it's very No judging. It's all voluntary. I see him out there. I I I hop up with the folks. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Very good. Thanks. Um,
any other new business? Okay. Um, I I got actually I just thought of one uh for Mr. Feldman. There there's there's a Steve there's a effort away at at the CPNL building. I know
there's you Mike got an email on this. There's there's a group that they need to change they need to put a an osprey nest up to replace the osprey nest that will come down when the tower comes down. Did you were you aware of that? I I don't think he I think I don't think
he's on right now. Oh, he's not on. Okay. I'll send him an email again. But the Allen is it's it's kind of related to Alleners more so than anybody else. It's they they they contacted me and basically said Allenhurst, you know, I gave him some hints. They wanted to put
a some kind of thing in the water in the lake. I said, "Why would you do that?" I mean, you want it on the shoreline. You want a large telephone pole. Um, and the D is giving them a little hard time. So, uh, they have an engineering firm they hired to actually do do this pole and
and and in in Osprey now. So, it's pretty they're spending some money on it for sure. Okay. Uh, commissioners, last word. Um, I'll start let's start with we'll start with Alenhurst now. Is Steve
there? No. Tony. Tony. Tony. Yes. Okay. Well, it looks like we're making progress here and we're we're moving ahead and uh all these new grants coming in. It's really an exciting time to be to be on a deal late commission.
Yeah. Yeah. J. Um well just one thing that you know the from the meeting that we had with NJP they told us that if someone reports a violation to the hotline um they have
to investigate it uh no matter what it is. So, that's something um I think everybody knows, the public knows the um Warren NJD 800 number. Um it's on it's on our website. It's it's everywhere, but you
can just go to that. And and the other thing I wanted to mention that I thought was encouraging was that they did talk about um something we spoke about 5 years ago is that they are going to be developing some um putting helping us with some educational resources and
workshops in the future. Okay. Thanks. Uh is Bobby there? Is Bobby on this call? Oh, and we're going to meet with them and they agreed to meet at least once. Guys, I'm moving on. I'm moving on. I just wanted to say that is she's not she's not here tonight.
Okay, Anna, Carol, uh I want to say great job to um Jeanie, Don, and Steve for pulling together that meeting. I think that's a really great step forward that didn't seem like it was going to happen for a long time and thank you for your persistence in making that happen.
And I think if there's any way that we can tie that in on maybe a municipal level to give some support to the people who are actually in each municipality um and maybe tie in other organizations like Freehold soils for sediment control. Um I think that's really um
that's that's the whole package and we need to kind of figure out how to do that and I don't know how to do that yet but I'm just kind of putting it out there. I'm glad you said freehole soils because I've never had a good experience freehole soils never they it's it's it's been up and down but it's it's a little
smoother now is well I consider them called many causes of lake problems so they don't enforce anything that's my problem we have a problem at ocean township up on the hill and uh maybe that's a great thing maybe we should bring invite them in to talk that be I
agree that's the thought I just wrote that down thanks thanks a That was good. Um, Margot, um, trying to make sure that the residents of the village of Lock Arbor realize
that, um, you know, their actions affect the lake and the ocean, everything that they do and they're polluting and stuff. That's what I try to do. Um, is Eric around? Is Eric there? No, he's not here tonight. Okay. And my last
word is I had a really great email exchange with the mayor of Allen today uh back and forth and and you know we have a big issue over there with with a do new dock going in. I believe it's not necessarily illegal dock but it's it
should have been put in during this morning season. That's what ticks me off the most. It's a permanent dock with pilings and the wildest thing the wildest thing I saw on this whole project was I got a call I got an email uh from the DPW of Allenhurst through
from the mayor. It was forwarded to me from another person and it was a picture of a a dock floating around the lake and it was by her house in West Allenhurst. She had a house in West Alenhurst on the point on south edge there and uh I said
I got to check this out. So, right before my scout meeting on Tuesday, I drove over down the street from my house and sure enough, there was a dock there and three people carrying tools and a generator onto the dock. It was a floating dock. It looked in various
shades of completion. It wasn't even completed. It was I don't know how they got on to be honest with you, but they got on it and I said, "What are you guys doing?" He goes, "Well, we're building, you know, we're building this dock. We're going to float it over." said, you know, and then he started rattling off where he was going. And I I said, "Well,
you know, this is not you're not supposed to build the dock on on somebody else's shoreline." It was on Ocean Shoreline. So, they were there all supposedly I think they were there all day. I I don't really know. I don't really have eyes on, but they definitely had tools there when I was there. And
they were loading everything onto the dock system. And uh at 9:00 at night, they paddled over to Cedar Avenue, which is on the north side of the Corley's Avenue bridge. They went under the bridge with these two floating structures and they attached them to the
the permanent dock, which I saw on Wednesday. It was the strangest thing I ever saw. Um but the mayor has concerns too about that. And and and she doesn't want bad things to happen. We we connected her with the state that the people that are looking at the the
problem and uh they're changing information the lawyers the lawyers names and engineers names and all that involved with the project. So hopefully they come to a resolution when you find out information. I think the key thing from this whole thing is to find out what what are the rules and docs because
it's always fuzzy to me. Um, and maybe we get some written guidance from the state we can put on our website and that and our and modify our document so people know. I think that's a huge issue. Uh, because I don't mind docs. I like docs. I want people to use the
links, but you don't want them to do the wrong thing and do building something in the spawning season is is wrong. I mean, that's pretty clear, right? I mean it they should be getting at least getting an evaluation from NJ.
Oh yeah. Yeah. I don't know what's going to come. I mean they got the right contacts of this allurst and the mayor's involved and can anybody hear me? Yes. Yeah. Hi. My name's Albert. I'm from 511
Cedar. We're not taking that yet. Oh, we're not we're not taking any any public questions right now. Oh, no. It's not a public question. I'm the owner of the guy with the You get a minute. In a couple minutes, you'll be able to talk. Give me a minute. All right, that's fine. Okay. Um, yeah, we have a public session. We're
not there yet. Okay. Now, now we got the public session. Last I think was the last word. I didn't miss anybody, did I? Well, a motion to a motion to open the meeting to the public. I think Steve was going to say something. I don't Maybe Don couldn't tell, but Steve, what was it that you wanted to say about that
issue? Steve, Steve, can you hold off a minute? Let's let's open the public meeting. Let's open the public. Yeah. Go ahead. Let's open the public meeting right now, guys. Okay. A motion to open the meeting to the public. Lincoln offers. Second.
Second. I second. All in favor? I I oppose. Okay. Go ahead. Jesse, can can you can you uh take the hands? I can't see anything. There you go. Take questions. Anybody
from the public would like to speak? Just raise your hand or I can't even. Yeah, I like to speak. Okay, Albert. Okay, Albert, go ahead. My name is Albert and um I am the gentleman that hired the dock person to put that dock
in that you saw in the lake. Um I consulted NJD expert. Uh he sent me a clear memorandum of understanding of what you're allowed to do as far as docks. I hired an attorney. I noted the town of Alenhurst and I was extremely
concerned with all the vegetation and I tried to take all the proper measures in order to do so. Uh so I felt like I was following the the rules that I saw uh by hiring all the professionals and they said that we were following the rules and we were within our rights and my my
interest is just in having a good time with my family in the lake and I was the one that did that and I plan to use the dock to go fishing and do nice things and you know joining the community you know I'm not uh only problem was I I you
know I got I actually got that document hand. Um, I don't know what rules. I mean, it sounds great, but I'm not the expert. The state the D is that this these guys are interpreting the state rules for you, but it's not the state of New Jersey. You know what I mean? It's
not the D. So, let's see where it lands. But I I think you were the the one thing you're in violation of I think is you're in the water from I think it's one April or it's it's one April or or or one one um well I'm sorry one one May to the end of June. I think it could be a different
time frame but it's definitely end of June that you can't physically build. You could put a floating dock out but you can't put a physical dock out with pilings because you're in the water doing it. And the same restrictions I think apply to the construction like bridges and things like that and because
that's what I'm familiar with with the bridges. They got to work around restriction time and there's another time for airing uh spawning. So it kind of there's a lot of restrictions on a lake in terms of in the water work. Um so anyway I mean
let's see what the state says. Um you already did it. I mean it's done. I think you got maybe maybe guidance maybe. I don't know. We'll see what happens. Okay. But, you know, you got a beautiful you got a beautiful location
there, Albert. It's it's spectacular. Thank you. And I hope you Good luck on the link, but let's see what happens with this with the DI evaluation. Okay. Um, Albert, did you you said that you you did contact the NJ and they gave you
guidance about it, right? So, I I I contacted NJ expert. evaluate. Let him answer. Don, I'm sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry, Albert. I I I had a person that um he's an expert in the NGD
and he sent me a memorandum of understand all of the different uh rules of the NJ for non-title waters, which this was considered a non-title water. And he bullet points and I consulted with the attorney and they put it together and
they told me that June 30th was not allowed to do anything post and I said okay and I hired a doc guy that's supposed to be a doc professional which I don't know I paid him lots of money and I uh told him let's put the doc in before the summer you know um so I I
that was my process I thought I was following it I don't know if it's right is going to have to deal with that and I think it's right according to NG we're trying to get better guidance from the state so maybe this will give us better guidance Okay. All right. Well, anyways, I'm
happy to be on the league. Thank you guys for all you do. Question for you. Why did you Why didn't the guys go to West Allers to build the floating docks? I was scratching my head on that one. No, they uh they told me that they built the floating dock uh outside. They manufactured the floating dock and the
the height of the house, it's too steep for them to move it over. So, I think they launched it and floated it over to the house. That's why they did it. Yeah. Yeah. But the what they did, they did it in front they did it on town of my township property and they trampled some
bushes and all kinds of I I don't even know what the condition is, but we sent the police over there. Um I clarify that I had 10 minutes, five minutes to look at, take some pictures, but can I can I clarify that? It just it
was it blew my mind that they they did it there. And uh yeah, they could have they probably could have done it somewhere else. Okay, maybe even Allen where Alenhurst has their entrance way there. I mean, that's why I was scratching my head.
Somebody wants to speak to that. Somebody else wants to speak to it. Jenny. Yeah. Okay, Don. Someone else wants to speak. Go ahead. I'm Jeffrey Donner. I'm an attorney. I represent Mr. Palace who was just speaking. I'm
familiar with the property at 511 Cedar Avenue. I've been in contact with Madison and Tammy. I've given them the memorandum from our environmental expert which demonstrates that we have what is called a rule permit because the NJ this
is a temporary a temporary dock and the NJ does not directly regulate that. I've given that memo to Madison and Tammy. I've given that memo to Matt Mariano who's the zoning officer at Allenhurst here in direct jurisdiction but he's a
conduit for information for the burrow of Allenhurst. So I've worked with him very closely and the the place where the frame was was uh put together and my understanding was on a uh a barge that hadn't been put into the water yet but
from the public launching site in Asbury Park right next to the 7-Eleven. So they they they put that they built the frame on the barge. Then they moved the barge into the water from the public launching site and then fed it over with a a
mechanized craft that can hold it with the the uh the slats that go to uh to be nailed down over the frame and brought it to the spot by the water and it was to be installed. I think it's just about done. I think I think the only thing that we may have run slightly a foul of
is the fact that we weren't aware of any prohibition uh about doing this work in Deal Lake during this period of the year and make that mistake again. But the problem we also have is that Albert wanted to have this for the summer and
starting June 30th there's an overall moratorium in Alenhurst that goes through Labor Day. So based on all of these regulations, the first part we didn't know about, we would have been procluded from doing anything during this year before the summer. So I I know
one thing and I I'll be very brief. Mr. Palace is very enamored about the lake. He has bought this piece called 511 Cedar Avenue which has fallen into terrible disrepair. Uh we have a zoning
permit to take all sorts of garbage and things that have amounted over decades that are on that property. We can't even have people walk on the property much of the time because they have metal spikes that come through their shoes. So we don't want anyone to get hurt. The house
is uh inundated by years of uh water penetration and we are going to make that place into something that would be a very meaningful site in Allenhurst and on the lake and Mr. Palace is excited about it and uh he is very enamored with
doing all that he can do in terms of meeting the deal commission deal lake commission's goals the NJ's goals he wants to preserve that lake really as much as the commission does so we're here in good faith and that's why I'm
here tonight to understand you I didn't see you know I didn't see everything that they were doing on the floating dock but it ended up by the mayor's house in West Aller. So she, you know, she sent me the picture and uh you we're all scratching our heads. We were
ready to rip it out and get rid of it. That's they would have I think our guy was asked questions of what are you doing? You're dumping wood or something like that. It was it was all done very carefully and uh it might have been able to make it all the way over at the time they put it in because it was
sitting on in West Allen. They must have put it past Barco went under the railroad tracks because I my vision was they they launched it from there from that site. I guess I'm wrong on that. Right. I I spoke to the installer and he said he launched it from the public launching site at Aspbury Park next to
the 7-Eleven. Okay. Okay. You know, just so Mr. Donna, just a point of clarification. Yes. It's a temporary dock. Is it on pilings or is it just a floating dock? No, there are pilings
there. Okay. So, I think the only point of contention is sediment disturbance between in Deal Lake because it's an anadimous fishery because it's blue uh blue back herring and shad that come into the lake and also it's stocked with
gamefish. There is a restriction in the disturbance of the lake bottom which would occur with the pile driving between April 1st and June 30th. And I think you know beyond that you know there there's a lot of latitude as
you're saying with the installation of docks and peers in lakes and so D does have a lot of of you know there under both the freshwater wetland act and under the flood hazard acts there is a lot of latitude there. I think the only thing that you need to be aware of in
the future is the disturbance of the lake bottom. If it was just a floating dock, then it would be there would be no issue. But with the disturbance of the lake bottom as you know and I can send you the the uh citation if you'd like.
But um it's clear that D said no no no disturbance of the of the bottom because of sediment uh the resuspension of sediment into the water during that spawning period from April 1st through June 30th. But is there is there any consideration of how close the pilings
are to one another? Because I know in that me memo that I've given to Madison and Tammy, the reasons the dock is not regulated is because the pilings are far enough away to avoid sedimentation. It's right in that memo that that is part of
the latitude that D provides. So, uh and that's also for flood hazards. So, material won't accumulate under the dock during a flood, right? So um yeah if if the pilings I I forget now what the
exact distance is but uh yes they provide latitude on that in terms of having enough space under the dock for debris to flow under it in case of a flood or to flow over it and we meet all those requirements. Okay. Yeah. By the
way, just to let everybody know, Albert had an issue because you just probably when did you close on the house, Albert? uh recently like uh recently and then I just got the permit to to clean it up. Um yeah. Yeah. But you just bought it.
So the problem is you know he's got you know he probably didn't know about the water restriction but he also has a hard restriction with Allen. They stopped construction on the 30th of June. Now the my question Allenhurst is if it's in the lake it does that apply to
construction on the lake since it's not part of the town? I don't know. That's that's another question. You could get a waiver from that if you could have. I mean that that'd be a question for future reference for other people on the lake right in Allen at least. I think they're worried about noise and that disruption
pools and all. So I I think Matt Mariana would interpret it that we would be a foul of their moratorium. Yeah. Oh, I got you. I got you. Okay. Well, this is interesting. Thanks guys for coming on. Yeah, it's our pleasure and I'm glad really happy you gave us an opportunity to explain a few things.
I saw one of your workers fishing on it. He didn't catch anything. Did he catch something? They might have been the workers. They should have been working, not fishing. He was testing his rod out. I hope I'm not paying them for Okay, but we'll let we'll let the state
deal with it. Did they tell you any time frame? They thank you for the document and they didn't give you any time frame. They have not given me any time frame but I made a claim that I'm available at their convenience to speak to them. Okay. Do anything. We I'm very easy to get in contact with and I'm very responsive. That's awesome. That's
awesome. Thank you. Anybody else out there guys talk any anybody from the public? A motion to close the public hearing. Motion to close. Second as far second.
All in favor? I I a motion to close the meeting to adjourn the meeting. Do we have a same date, right? Our our date for next month. July 17th. Is it? No, it's not. It is not
July. It's July 24th, guys. Oh, that's right. We changed the We changed July what schedule. July 24th. You're correct. Yep. Yep. Yep. Y we'll see everybody on the 24th. Maybe I'll see you on the lake. So, um No, I have July
30. What do I have? July 31st or my um I got the 21st. 24th. I'm saying what's the calendar next week? You changed July 31st. I got the 24th. It's on the calendar. It's It's on our deal dealing. Well, I can't see the deal
because I'm looking at my meeting dates that I put in the Does anybody have the DA commission meeting? I'm looking I'm looking at the meeting the July 31st 99% sure it's the 24th, but we have July 24th. John, I'm looking at the
DLC meeting dates on our website. I have then I have to change I have to revertise then because I have it as December 31st. I don't know why. Do you want I mean, let me look at my calendar. Maybe maybe hold on. Let me just check this. That's That's what you That's what we have on our on our website. And I
think But I just want to look and make sure because that's the third. That's the fourth Thursday. Fourth. Yeah, we we changed that originally. The wrong date then. Okay. I'll I'll look at it and send out if we have to,
I'll just readvertise. But right now we have July 24th. Right. I I'm just saying I published it as July 31st. So I might have I have to go back and look from the my minutes. Okay. So which is it? July. I'll double
check and then if it's the 24th then I'll just readvertise the 24th. Okay. Okay. But you'll let us know, Jesse. Oh yeah. I'm going to look right when I when we're done. Oh, we lost Don. All right. Well, that that's been up on
I know we had some reason for why we changed it, Jesse. Right. And I remember there was something with Don that we changed it. Oh, okay. I don't know. But I'll go back and look at it was the original date was the week before because that the third and then we
changed it to the 24th. I don't know why, but we did. Right. Okay. I'll go back and it's fine. Don, you're on again. Moving on. All right. Are we done? So, you're muted, Don. Let's do a motion to
adjurnn. You're muted. Motion to adjurnn. As great park. Thank you. Second. I All in favor? I oppose. Perfect. All right.