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Hurst Asbury Park yes deal Interlaken present luck gber I Margo I'm here hi
ocean Don I saw you tonight we have a resolution mut we have a resolution to approve the minutes of the regular meeting from January 16th 2025 someone please offer I'll offer Asbury Park thank you
second L thank you and actually it should be the reorganization meeting I'm sorry I'm going to change that on the agenda all in favor I opposed okay and next we have a
resolution to approve the treasures report and pay bills and tonight we're going to have our Treasurer read the report Margo Europe um okay balance on hand previous
month um 8,200 8,293 receipts were $2,454 the total available is $ 82,2 the 82046 9 so the total balance was $
74,8 and perfect that's it thank you and I'll do better next time you were fine that was fine and the numbers are very small yes yes they are and I'm gonna use my
different glasses next and I'm going to tell Ricky to enlarge it someone please offer the billis to be paid don't moved second oh second Asbury Park thank you Asbury
Park yes deal sorry I had to unmute good thank you interen yes L gber and ocean yes okay by the way I want to note uh deal
gets a gold star for getting their assessment I never saw an assessment back that quick yes and I just got um alen Hurst po to sign and sent back too okay very nice very nice yes very nice I thought it was the goose the
goose pill but I thought it was a little high for them so very good okay old business wait do you have a Eagles hat on sorry I had to do it I went to Drex for five years my son went to five years I had 10 years
invested in Philly so I got I got a root for him but when the Giants are there it's a different story so it's a and Kenny picket an Ocean Township guy and he got EXA exactly right very happy day for him um storm water management Grant
Peter you want to take this while while I I'm still melting down from the email we got today no I don't really want to but I will um we have not been authorized to perform any additional uh conceptual design uh by the DP until the
grant agreement is uh returned and Don has been having weekly trouble uh getting that done so he's invested the assistance of Senator Vin goal and hopefully he and I can meet with uh Vin
soon and advise him he's already knows he already really knows what our issues are um because we want to move forward we're ready to do it we have the initial plans done we have to go out to the site establish limits of work and then
complete the design enable enabling us to go out to bid it's been uh July will be the second full year that they at our signed agreement July is closer
than uh you know 12 months so it's ridiculous it's got the agreement in in July of uh 2023 and uh they allowed us to initially start work but we have not been allowed to continue uh once
their could you I'm sorry uh would you explain what it is again Peter that they are saying is the reason Genie there's a huge list and it's it was it was down to nothing we had we did we crossed all the
te's dotted all the eyes they wanted us to cross and now they're coming back with a long list about 12 items that they're asking us about and and some of them are probably pretty easy to solve I'm not we're not going to go over them all we'll be here all night and that's
not the point of this meeting but the Steve myself Peter and Ricky the C CFO will have to sit down and we're going to have to go over each of the elements one more time this like the 10th time we've done it and I think we answered a lot of
these questions already and the offices different offices are are reviewing it and asking the same basic questions that's what I feel what's going on was the Finance and Accounting Group um that came back this time supposedly with the list of questions so now we have to go
back and answer them and they're simple some of them are you know how much do we Bill uh for Commissioners how how many people are going to a a a cleanup um and a lot of this is all estimates it's not they want the like definitive answers
now and and we're all scratch our head Steve's very frustrated with the whole situation um he's on vacation when he gets back he's not going to be a happy trooper I hope he doesn't read his email during vacation um but it it's a lot of stuff we've already been been through
and now we're revisiting it again and this is one of our complaints to Vin goal it's just a and every every group not only us but every Lake that has this grant is also having a similar problem so it's just not us what is it why
what's causing that they're being very strict I I don't know I don't know I think the off the way the offic is set up there they have different different review areas and they're not in one office and they're not in the office they're physically home that's another
so you you know our our our coordinator is good she's very thorough but there's other people and she's tried hard tried to get us through uh but these other questions from other offices are popping up all the time so we spend a lot of time on it
it's just a little frustrating and we also have $96,000 supposedly that they still owe us from the last Grant right and and we that's the one I went
back to VIN on today um and he was going to call the DP the the commissioner of D on the way home from from the uh from Trenton um because that's that's frustrating I mean that's been since December 4th we provided all the
information and they came back and said it's still under riew by management and management the next step is finan accy well that means that's going to be another review period just to get the money from the Grant from
2016 and that was completed I think in 2021 is that right Peter yes that's right yeah so why why the one thing I don't know why was the final bill December of 2024 when the work was completed to yeah right right so know
was December the we build them way in advance of December 2024 yeah well what one of the big issues we've been tied up for almost nine months was the insurance right no that's for the new grants for the old Grant too remember they stopped
payment they stopped payment on the old Grant because we didn't have the insurance and we talked away we negotiated that out and we got all the certificates of insurance for all the folks that were involved so that that we got over that hump but for the new Grant we had to get our own insurance which we
did but it took a long time so it's it's been torturous to say the least it almost want you almost don't want to go for a grant be honest with you you know we have to because that's the only source of money but they got to make it easier yeah got interest on it are the
is it at least earning interest as they're holding it back from us AB it doesn't work that way no we tell we tell our towns now uh to expect a minimum for a project like this of $10,000 expenditure just to process the grant
agreement not have anything to do engineering design environmental design legal review nothing like that just processing and that can be uh a CFO doing it right it costs that much in the
time spent yeah so the big deal is when we when we finally get this agreement you know we're going to be asking for extension right away and so so we can push it out but they say we can't get an extension because it's Federal and whatever so and that's another problem
maybe that's why it's being delayed and that's that's kind of in the back of my mind that they worried that they don't have really have the money there which is another problem said but it is definitely Federal money that was budgeted for oh yeah and
we did spend money on this project what do we spay we spent probably 40,000 60,000 at least already on this out of our pocket I mean the state budgeted for this right yeah well the federal they didn't budget they they they they allocate now maybe
they have the money already that that's a possibility right that's a possib I'm hoping I'm hoping that's the case yeah let's hope y y okay so we'll move on um the shoreline protection element um how
we doing that Genie any more word back from no I I will I'm going to reach out um next week and make another phone call and another email okay yeah the the DPS they got they got their
issues for sure thing um I was going to say and this is just to do with um you know the um well is that to do with water testing because I just wanted to mention that um because of the Frozen um Lake they haven't been able to test the
last few months and not sure how many people were actually going to have for this year to be testers so I'll give you a report on that next month I can tell you one thing the water is crystal clear the lake is is is very good if you go down by The Flume or look down off a
bridge you can see the bottom of the water so it's right now is the best it's the cleanest it's it'll be for the year right no algae that's for sure there's some trash Oh we you know one thing I did notice um on Shoreline protection it's kind of closing it's kind of a
separate subject um but Carol and I have been been noticing it and it's the the recycling recycling programs in in in in Interlake and and also in in lock Arbor and we're batting it around I think
we're going to try to attack interl first and maybe we can work some kind of shared agreement with with Ocean or something like that um where they can do bulk pickup because a lot of a lot of recycling is blowing down the streets and going into the lake Carol picks it
up I pick it up I've been going out like once or twice a week with full garbage bags and picking up trash yeah full bags multiple bags I've seen it blowing off the trucks as they go by I think we've all seen that happen and
and lock over is not bad other than the summer they have their the high volum they've lot more residents in town and they put them in small trash cans they they fall and they blow in so it's something that we can eliminate with a little planning and some
cooperation between the towns maybe we can work that out that'd be fun that'd be fun to do I think it'd be a huge success if we can make it happen so the crazy wins have really exacerbated that that's a big deal Don I don't know if you want to talk about that or not
but the man that wrote to you about the garbage blowing in I got that later yeah I got I'll talk that y but that but that's another thing you can see the dumpsters with they're open and then the wind's blowing you know 40 m an hour and
it's blowing the garbage right out of those dumpsters and it end the lake or I did I did I did call um somebody in azra was tick the other day because there was the garbage cans were totally full along deal Lake Drive so they they said
they're going to get to them I'm sure they did um but they were full and wind was blowing and stuff was going out of them and it was just it was just a mess because people use it they Park along deal Lake drivve and they use those trash cans often right and they don't they don't seem to pick them up as much as they
could they should so you know maybe too because of the snow I mean the cleaning of the street I don't know there hasn't been that much though anyway [Music] um the joint reestablished joint meeting um Jess's working on I guess
consolidating the signatures document I I sent you guys the you have the amendment number two number one is being passed around by the town number one is already out number two has and it's being voted on in I think lock our voted
on asz voted on ocean ocean voted on it okay the first one and that's the one with the Voting Rights yes limiting voting to the Commissioners inter did last night too Don who's that inter Len did as well last night okay great well
we have another one that the amendment two uh you guys have a copy of it um it it deals with the um the situation with the 2third vote to uh use Capital funds and um in other words if we had a if the
towns had we had to do a project and the towns uh we had to get money for the towns would vote on it and 2third would have been would approve the the do the the plan and that could be let's say we're building a whole new bulkhead in
in h lock gber or wherever let's use lock gber as an example um and it was a million dollars well you know as Park and ocean would pay almost 60% of that bill right Bas on based on their Shoreline so the mayor caught that
Asbury and it was reasonable to change myself Carol and Jeanie rewrote the paragraph um and we spent some time on it because we had some we we you it was an issue of my if somebody gave us a million dollars to do a project we shouldn't have to go
back to the towns and ask for permission so it was basically you know specific to um special you know funding that was needed and they would have to raise um so I think Paul Paul did you get a chance to look that over yeah Excuse me
yes I looked at that language it's in article 10 finances and yeah one sentence it seems clear that's what what the intent is okay right so is that major Capital expenditures not included
in budget activities are not part of state federal or private Grant must be approved with the consent in writing by the governing bodies of all member municipalities so it
require okay and and if you guys are all good with that um Jesse can write up the official resolution for next month and we'll we'll get it y we'll get it going then sent back in yep so I move that we accept that
exactly as it's written now Paul just read I'll I'll second it okay all in favor I I opposed okay okay we'll move on thank you write thank you I'll write that up
for next month okay Jess you got you got the ball got it oh for me oh new business okay wait sorry let me go back any old business we didn't hit I I know one I'm sorry Goose so the the goose are my
walking around pairing up I just want to mention that I saw some some Shenanigans in Interlaken the other day so um we got to keep our eyes peeled and and we're gonna probably go I think the I think the the USDA goes out to each town for
signatures I don't think we have to do that um but we may have to go out soon to the neighbors that always have geese and try to get the pre permission before um the the season begins that's late later in March I believe right but
they're starting to pair up I believe we do have a we do have a list of right we I I don't but you do have a list of homes that continually have these yeah six or seven houses sure we know who they are okay we know the addresses
right not delivered to this those some of those that then they come back every year so yes so each of us will then receive each commissioner will receive one of those to take to the home ahead of time right before us ocean Asbury
ocean Asbury and Inter Lake usually okay so when will those go out and so we can it's G to be probably mid-march probably okay excuse me before the next meeting wna that other provision about the
change in officers yeah go through that we did that one oh in December yeah we we voted on that PO oh okay you voted on that one and I think I think most of and I sent everything out to the towns
and a few have come back already ocean just did it apparently inter Laken deal did it I think Asbury did it too they did it in janary I haven't gotten any the new um the resolution from
December saying they were rejoining I didn't get their signed agreement from from Asbury okay I'll I'll try I'll try and follow up with they with their clerk yeah yeah you have the name of the clerk
right Jesse yeah yeah he just wrote to you today because he sent over the the um our appointments for Josh oh good good good good sent that to you his name is um I can't think he's a deput I can't
Anthony Anthony yes yeah [Music] today yeah I called him and I asked him to send us copy okay let's go to new business Jesse okay um tonight we're going to we're asking to appoint Dave
Brown from Ocean Township as our qpa it gives us the ability to go um higher bid threshold and uh what's the other one bid
threshold and when we need quotes when we go out for things right we get quotes instead we go from the 6,000 figure to a 40 40,000 figure no from 44,000 right and and6
D600 okay what could you explain what they do I don't know what that is qualified purchasing agent what what does he do he he'll when like Peter's company isn't doing the bids he'll look over the bids
and draw them up for us um we're going to be going out for the we control services he'll look make sure everything is in order like the right documents that we
need I really don't know but I know that we need him so we can up our bid threshold Jesse one question yes yes on the budget line that's coming from is that going to be lake maintenance yes yes Lake main most we probably won't
need him but he'll if we need him for Grants to help us with things like that he'll be there he's paid by the is it by the hour how we how do we um probably by the hour if we don't use him he doesn't get paid okay it'll probably be the same
thing like we have that any agreement what per hour cost is I put two not to exceed 2,000 for the year so if we use them all in one month do do you know what he charges I can't remember I one I think he was saying 500
a month so whatever time he spends if we need him if we don't need him adjustments made to the bid thresholds for rewarding contracts of various I know he he does it for the fire department if they need him he puts together the bids so okay that's the only question I
have is is right how we think it would be I think it was charging 150 an hour maybe that be in that yeah I can change that to read 150 an hour not per hour not to exceed 2,000 I I think that's more clear
okay you know C can we can we come back to that sure you want to want to hold this for the next meeting no no I'm gonna text them right now okay actually I might I might just call them you want me to text them he can you want to maybe he can explain to what exactly he'll do
for us hold on hi Josh oh Josh is here too hi Josh yeah he just he came in a little while ago okay let's let's hold that we can we can come back back let go to we treatment
okay um tonight we're just authorizing to go out for U requests for qualifications and proposals for the weed control for 2025 and the dealate commission attorney okay
um the okay aquatic we control services we treat proposals right and the other one is for the dite commission attorney do you have a um description of that post no not yet that that's one of the
things that I'll ask the qpa for the qpa we have did did Don send you the we proposals the that St it yeah but um I was talking about the D commission attorney no I don't have that yet I
won't I won't advertise for that until I have the request for proposal but in the advertisement will there be a description of qualifications and we'll see that for approve that before it goes out this is
just authorizing us to go out for it like when we authorize to go out to bid for the to do the mtds it's the same exact thing it's just an authorization so when we do have something we're ready to go out to to bid right now we don't
have anything but we want to be able to go out to bid for proposals instead of saying oh we're going to do it and then wait three months so the first the first vote the first vote is authorization of the Wii control services right that's the
first vote okay right so let's let's do that one at a time okay yeah so yeah I can is there any questions on the we the Wei control R it's RFP request for
proposal from the contractors Jesse will release that with our approval well wait I'll authorize I'll yeah you you were authorizing Jesse to go out in the street to to I'm not gonna go out to the street well whatever you got
adver that she puts on I'm like a weed old government term we used okay so that right so is there any questions on the the we control proposal
no it's the same exact area as last year yeah same stuff okay yep and a two it's a two-year contract proposal so or the rfps were two years so whoever wins it will have it for two years so it eliminates it and actually
their D permit usually lasts two years and that's why we did that there was no reason for them to go back and forth so we get one guy they get the permit they cut their coverages for two years and last year we didn't we didn't treat it all we didn't spend a DME on we treat
okay I'll offer for that the aquatic RFP second second thank you all in favor I I oppose okay and I'll work with Steve on dates when to get it to publish it and
when we should be getting everything back now the one on the Dake attorney Jesse that's that's we're getting that's we developing RF R we're just going to put out that anybody that would like to apply
to be the de commission attorney can apply and we'll tell them in the bid we'll put how much basically a little synopsis they how much they get paid there's one meeting a month they get paid for that and then if there's anything extra they'll tell us what they
would charge for anything else and do in that proposal do you list qualifications that the da commission would like the attorney to have no we never done one for I've never done one for the Jill commission before hence always been the
attorney and I don't know who was the attorney before that I don't know how they did it the format you're using well I that's like 12 years ago so who knows what that is Paul go ahead former attorney was Dan Jacobson oh okay that's that's a for oh
before hunt Okay that goes back a he never left the lake though I think it's a good idea to put in the qualifications so we're we know we ourselves know what we want you
can put inations in your RFQ it should technically be an RFQ right request qualification right could set limits like they need to be admitted the practice law in the state of New Jersey for a minimum of you know x amount of years five years want to pick right is
there Jesse is there is there one when you do it the apply attorneys for the plany board and the board of adjustment how are they done the same way that's how we did it for ocean uh Dave put out he just had a big
list and then it had what they needed for each one and people just sent back their qualifications yeah okay I just think it would be helpful we get a review here I think what she saying and what we we advertise for it well we advertise for it we get them back and then we review
them and discuss it and they showed their expertise in in the areas and then we pick the the the lawyer that that closer closely resembles what we we need is it normal Paul to put in um uh qu the
kinds of well besides that they're a lawyer I mean to put their expertise or if we're looking for someone with an environmental um background or emphasis in law environmental law not that that may be their only thing they specialize
in but you know to me it's important that who we hire has some background in that in dealing with um the lake issues that we encounter you could certainly ask for them to provide their background as to
environmental or other areas of law but the Paul if I'm not mistaken you we're really kind of looking for yeah I mean theable law right the area law is than environmental y That's a specialty
environmental is pretty much a specialty item that we could get a lawyer for we could put on a list if I'm not mistaken there's and we get the list we can hire from a list and they could be want they could have some environmental needs or
or capabilities but we want one for meetings we want somebody that's you know tied into New Jersey public laws and understand how how organizations how how municip run because we operate like a municipality right with Municipal law
and public bidding and contracts exactly I understand and that's important but I I think for example and this is just one we had an issue with say for instance nobility Crest when we have and this
this goes on we have um you know as Don likes to call them Bad actors um who violate storm water man agement rules or who just don't do what they should and and so we end up with these washes of
mud and lots of it into the lake and um at one time you know we went around with that for quite a while and I and and that's not the first time it's happened several times not just with them but with other group so I'd like to know
that we have some kind of way or some the person that's helping us um to be able to know whether we can pursue or what we can move forward with or who you know who we should go to when these
things happen well you're really in that situation you have really two options one is go to the D and arguing that violated their storm water management permits and then the second would be
litigation to seek enforce possibly an injunction but typ of legal action gets very very expensive and you know be a better part of your annual budget that's exactly yeah the D that's why we try to
use the DP as much as we can for for issues because you know they're supposed they have a staff it takes takes time but they're supposed to resolve it and unfortunately they haven't been doing that that's another problem right right that's and there's different divisions but you know what I say to all the time
is litigations like surgery it should be your last resort you should try like you try everything else before you have surgery you should try way resolve it and that should be your last resort
yeah um maybe maybe when we get a handful of people who are interested we can ask them what kind of exposure they have had right to these kind of issues storm water issues so it may be we just asri park and ocean just got new
lawyers how did ocean go about getting their lawyer we put out an RFQ who is the ocean new lawyer Ken Kevin stalky okay well I think you so we can use the
same format as them there's no reason why we can't use the same but but then how do we decide on this lawyer once we do have them in is the commission going to look over these uh yes making
decision so I Bobby Bobby makes a good point that um you know at that time we'll look at what's there and see you know what kinds and people know when they're applying for these positions well this isn't you know this isn't a business that I'm applying to this is a
commission that that's an has an environmental concern you know that's what they're about that's that's that's that's one of your opinions I I I mine is more municipality expertise and the environmental we can get an
environmental lawyer as as on the side and have one on call that that's not a problem I think we can and whatever you get when you get all the these names back you make a list and then you can if you need an environmental lawyer later
on then you can pick from your list of qualified people that sent in proposals to us yeah I mean they may be doing in like you know Municipal law and and have but have had dealings with things that we
deal with and right now the storm water management the storm water management rules are so strict right now right Peter that we should be good with storm water let's let's let's kind of move on I got question one last question for Jesse
does anybody are we okay with going out for requesting qual for qualifications for an attorney yeah I I'll move on that I'll make a motion that we go ahead and do that
second in linol one second thank you all in favor I oppose question for Paul when we get these names back is that do we have a private meeting a a closed meeting with
the commissioners talk about it you would talk about those in in um executive session okay so we have to work it out yes when we get them back Jess if it's next month we'll just may have to have a
executive session prior to our meeting and then we can make an announcement right we Paul can we pick can we do that can we pick the person during the executive session uh yeah well you would you could come to an agreement but then in your public session is when you have to
propose the resolution but you can form a consensus that you know you have a majority gotcha thanks list it should be listed Jesse as the reason for the executive session needs to be listed so it should be identified as a Personnel matter okay
thank you thank you Paul okay thanks guys that's great it's great um okay I think the I think we can go back to the other vote um hold on one second oh 125 per hour is
fine and we have to buy his we have to pay for his wife's dinner because we just interrupted it so 125 per hour at a cost not to exceed $2,000 for the year thank you
that's I'm glad we I'll change that in the the resolution perfect okay someone please offer deal second
second thank you Asbury Park yes deal yes inter Len yes L gber yes and ocean yes okay very good thanks okay
well with all that gone um let's I got some additional new business itas which okay are interesting DL cleanup um I I coordinated with a couple folks called a couple folks and we have a uh a
special event on April 4th which is going to be the Kanas club or the Key Club a quanas club that came up to me and and said GE we'd like to do they were going to do a ocean clean up but that didn't that wasn't going over well uh because clean ocean action is doing their own separate one so they wanted to
do something with the kids they have the Key Club of New Jersey is coming to Asbury for an overnighter on I think it's Thursday to Friday and they want to do something on Friday morning um to help the community so Steve from Kanas
thought that it was a great idea to help the Lakes so I called the Lakes I called Sunset and and Wesley folks and they were they were in favor of it um and and I have a call on Tom pinski on helping the gardens because the kids maybe can
help clean up some of the gardens too at the same time um deal Lakes not much it's all in asur it's focused in Asbury they're not going west of the of Main Street they'd be going you know they start on they start on Main Street and head towards the ocean and then they end up at Berkeley Carterette so that's the
plan so April 4th is a Friday right correct correct correct so and I don't expect a ton of people of us if we anybody else can make it I talked to jeie about helping out she's around uh because it's an Asbury but you the
quanas came to me separately and and I thought it was a great idea and with that the next day is the fifth I said well we have any conflicts Genie didn't think we had any um I talked to Carol I think we're okay with the fifth and I conf I confirmed with our our kayak
folks they're they're good with the fifth clean ocean AC clean ocean clean communities I haven't confirmed but I'm probably pretty sure they'll be available um so there's a clean up there's a clean up in deal I think on
August sorry April 11th or 12th yeah every town has your own every clean up but this is specific to the lake we do you know four five six areas we don't do much in deal the only thing we do in deal is we work with the
school and the school does some of the shoreline cleanup which is pretty cool um they do more in the fall but we can get them out there in the spring too and the winter I guess and help out would this be our our spring cleanup this would be our spring cleanup yep yep yep
on April 5th yeah it's actually later usually have it in March right yeah yeah usually March okay and I hope 9:00 am 9:00 am at the boat ramp it' be 9 it'll be 9:00 a.
somewhere right okay boat ramps you know the the focal point but you know we go to Allenhurst we go to inter L inle inter Le Ground Zero there's two ground zeros that's interl is one point and Asbury is the other one so
okay so we are you okay with that guys yeah okay sounds good so we'll sort the marketing on that um and the Key Club I thought that was pretty cool there's going to be
like 250 kids wow so they'll have coordinators it's I think Gail's here from is Gail here from Wesley I think GA keep moving almost 8 o' I see
Gil Don it's almost but anyway um I'm sure we'll get a lot of cooperation from from the folks and Wesley actually Wesley and Dake aren't that big in terms of I me it's really there she is uh oh I think
she's in a lake where so you you guys are good with it right with with yes yep I I I I got a call on Tom I haven't got a call back yet he's scream so we we'll we'll we'll we'll
we'll he's been busy his group's been out there cleaning the beds already so yeah and Barber's here too for Sunset lakes in too okay yep and sunset's probably the biggest lake and the most concentrated effort we're going to see
oh there's more um so are you talking about uh now you're talking about the fourth right Don when fourth Friday the fourth right right with Sunset and Wesley okay and we'll try to save the trash and and consolidate it into our
our truck for the county so the town doesn't have to pick up that trash we can just leave it in a specific area and we'll get it on on Sat morning I just can I just say something clean oef is April Saturday April 12 so you're not
cleaning up anything to the beach to hamper data okay right because it was too hard there was too much effort uh they needed yeah that was their first plan to help you guys out all right and we want to know toy
Asbury Park to clean out the mtds or is it too soon since the last clean out because they were there what like two months ago yeah it's too soon it's too soon too soon okay well maybe you want to take a peek well that's you know
that's something that maybe Peters guys and me can can't handle maybe one day we can go out and take a peek in the morning Josh would he would love that by the way Josh would love that I would too you want to see oh yeah the mtgs are pretty cool get a team out we get we get
everybody out well anyway if you do want them to let me know done and I'll I'll be in touch and give them our clean update okay okay and which ones you want cleaned out specifically the memorial dry one is probably the cleanest to be honest with
you really yeah they've been hitting that hard so the one the one on on Kingsley the two on Kingsley I'll be worried about the the ones on Sunset you know I think they clean them who knows bar and I went over there a couple years ago right right after they they were put
in and they were pretty full already so hopefully they got to them okay so what which one on Sunset you said one on there's two there there's three there's actually three mtds on Sunset I know there are that's so that's why I was asking which one I think all of them you
got a check oh all cleaned okay all right well let me they usually don't do this the cleaning until later later in the spring when we lower the lake no they're they don't have to lower the lake we're no no I'm saying that's
when we do it is when the lake gets lowered is when we usually ask them to clean out big one the big one we ask is what when we okay that's in the fall that's the comto one right okay yeah so all right just let me know if you want
yeah I'll let you know there's no there's no rush to the mtds right now I think we have to go and check them and see if they how they how they are and then we'll let them know so all right thank you okay um trash can we talked about the trash cans uh there was trash at at at lollipop
Pond one of we had an email from a resident and uh through our our comment section so I sent that right to the town and the Town Sent there there our clean Community person over there to check on it I got no feedback yet but they de definitely sent somebody over to talk to
the to talk to the stores over there about cleaning up their M it was a garbage can that was open and it was blowing stuff out of it I think it I want to say the dollar store I think it was that's what they said yeah the other issue I think you might have seen on
Facebook you know we found we I saw I personally saw about seven or eight dead birds at The Flume I called the D the health the health hazard or the um health department and I didn't get a call back I left a message and the bird
a couple days later the birds were mostly gone two or still still there but the other birds that were floating they they were gone whether they blew away blew West I don't know I haven't seen it it's now frozen over so we we don't have any what kind
of birds were they seag they were Mo they were a goose um there was a um what were they Josh what was the other bird the big the long one was Coran cor and then there was seagulls and
probably another goose or two there was a bunch of birds I didn't see any Ducks but all around the country yeah they're they're testing birds and they're they're coming up with this Aven flu they all got it so it's kind of a hopefully they get a
vaccine for it soon um or some kind of some kind of pill or something at least for the chickens okay they have the chickens but it's it's it's bad right now so the folks I got email from the folks in in Shark River inquiring about it
connected I was G to ask about that Shark River has been send Shar River Coalition has been sending out information about that and how people shouldn't touch them and you know should um contact the DP and then they give the
information I sent that to you maybe you got the same we put that on we put that on Facebook already so yeah but um I didn't send out anything in in the next newsletter I would like to put out something that's not a bad idea jie okay that's not a bad
idea um so that's that I did there was a one terrorist folks are you know still upset about Terrace Pond um that there there's some minor drudging over there but they want more drudging and I I got a couple emails in my work email which I
wasn't happy about and if you're going to email me on situations I need emails to my my home my home email so um and that's advertised I I put that out there to people so I do appreciate that people email my my my personal email not my
work email um but there there Tommy or know went back to him with a nice response and um hopefully that helps um I had a lot of meetings on with the oems on Ocean Township and deal and
Interlaken and lock Arbor uh and Asbury and we we came we had a nice meeting and uh we exchange information but we're going to we're going to be using the oems a lot more for information purposes getting word out on flooding uh we're exchanging data we have email ex
exchange through I'm sorry not email we have emails um but we do WhatsApp WhatsApp um so we we're all connected Josh is involved with that um so we're all linked together uh for storms so they if they see something and I didn't
see it they come to me if I see something the other store last week I I thought I saw a lot of rain coming so we had that lowered days ahead and you guys noticed and it kind of was a perfect lowering went right to the top of the dam so I was very proud
of that um I thought it wasn't going to rain but it they had one last blast of rain and that got a lake back up to normal um but that was that was unusual nobody was looking at it all they worried about was the storm snowstorm coming and and not the rain but but the
rain did come but we do have the OEM the oems are also going to look we're talk in the next year about plans for evacuation um what you do in a storm you know if you have some pump maybe you should have two Su pumps a backup some
pump so we're looking at at plenty we know the homes at flood so each Town their oems have to be responsive to those Folks at flood like luck Arbor the deal OEM would be knocking on your door if there's an issue calling you a day or two before uh warning you maybe sandbags
maybe you need sandbags so there these are things that we can talk about and prepare for um before storm hits because it's going to hit again so we just got to be prepared okay um Ocean Township came to
me yesterday uh with a request for um support on funding um they're going to go for this special funding for various different projects West West on the western ponds um Terrace Pond lollipop
Pond and um and some others um so I said you know we we' given the support but um it's called the leap leap program and get that
uh so let me see here Jesse you know any more about that my paperwork got cut off here but it's a special Grant system about $150,000 you can get uh up to $400,000 for these programs and it's
it's more for shared services I believe uh but they think they can get the money for various different projects especially using the dealing commission and some other other organizations so uh we're going to be talking more about I'll know more next month uh but it's it seems like a great great idea to improve
the Western Pond of ocean so Jesse you got any more that she's muted on the leap oh I have no idea they were working on it today I have no idea okay we we we'll get more information out you guys want to get it but it's it's it's a it's it's
special fundings another source of fundings okay that's all I got on on new business anybody else um I know Ken wanted to speak uh so I'm going to just
turn that over you can sure thank you yeah so uh so tonight I can I can honestly say that this is the best that I've seen and heard everybody since we started doing hybrid
um really it's one of those kind of things I've heard talk of wanting to go back to a full inperson um where you may have the issues one question that I have are you going to
continue to Archive for posting on the site if you do that if you go down that road is that a is that a thought is there a thought behind that you're gonna continue to record the meetings is that what you're asking Ken yeah uhuh yeah
yeah I mean I I would assume so sure I mean okay we haven't really talked about any of that K we we probably should maybe at next meeting to this was a night this was a meeting I didn't have support to set up the camera and stuff usually Steve Rollins are helping out U
it's really damn cold out there so and was going to snow so it was in back of my mind um we're gonna do a zoom I personally like the Zoom I think it's great uh but I also like inperson meetings too so I like to see people and get to know everybody and that the the
hybrid's been working out I thought I mean yeah what do you think it works out it works out for the most part but I think the biggest issue for me you know being that I do this stuff all the time is that since everybody's got a camera in front of them mic in in front of them we
can see everybody we can hear everybody what I've notic what I've noticed in the room is that often times you may you may hear somebody speak but you have no idea who it is because number one you can't see them and number two you just get
like kind of this reverberant wash in a room that makes it even harder to hear so those are some thoughts that I have about you know the one versus the other why one's better than the other so on so forth yeah we could solve that problem
with with passing the camera at least the people at the table we could we could rotate the C the uh the camera around the the computer and just use that as a baseline we could switch from the camera the setup camera to the um the computer we could do that yeah
we'll probably have to look at some ways to do it because it's you know like I say it's in practice is it's often harder than in in you know in Concept in my in my experience and I think Ken though when we when I
spoke with you about this you had also said no matter what way we're still going to continue to record our meetings and make it so that people can attend them um so that people can attend the meetings even if they can't attend in
person so we want to continue that I believe but in any case it's still going to have the same issue that he's talking about is and I've watched the meetings and um afterwards and looked at them and I see and when they're going on I can't
see people and I can't hear who's talking and there's a lot of noise and I'm thinking the more people we have in the room and and Ken and I have both worked in television of course his far more expertise than I have far more expertise but the problem is the more
people there will be in the room if we've get to meet personal and we're trying to record those we're going to have more noise we're going to have less visibility so I think that's something important to think about as we think about you know whether we're going to go
in person or you hybrid we need to think about the recording of the meetings while we're why we go around the room this good topic now it's two hours h Carol what do you think I I think
maybe maybe we should consider if if we're someone wants to speak uh from the public or something maybe we have a microphone set up and a camera on them so that everyone on Zoom can see them
yeah that that's easy to do that that's a but when you're around the table you can't necessarily I I I see I understand but I think I think I I watched a whole bunch of of of of the meetings I thought they were damn good even with that camera it's not perfect it's not you
know we're not going to win Academy Award for cinematic production but it's not bad um because I watched you know Ocean Township and other towns it's it's tough to hear too because there there's fixed cameras you know they're away I mean in in terms of comparison to other
towns we're not doing bad so I think you got to think about that Ken and look at some of the like Ocean Township or Neptune or any of the other towns that that that tape there's only one camera so in that room so anyway but I got it I
mean we have at least three laptops usually in the room at the table so we could you know kick those on if somebody's talking they should maybe put their camera on and talk to that and I can kill the the main camera that's easy to do I just hit a
button I mean have everybody bring their laptop no not no no no no no we have three tables right there's three tables there we have three three usually is around three computers working or phones and people can do that they can use it
right there when they want to speak they just they they go onto their laptop hit the button and un un M themselves and talk right that right that's what I was saying right okay have your laptop in front of you but are we do we want to
maybe next meeting we we want to vote whether we want to do continue with the um hybrid I think you know we got to make a decision we have not made an official decision on how we let's talk about it next week because like Jesse saying it's 803 right now yeah no I got
it I got it okay but yeah let's do the commissioner's a minute while we're at it Jeanie since you're on what do you got oh that's all I think that was what I wanted to talk about so I won't take any more time with that we'll talk about it next month
Bobby nothing new going on in Deal okay what do we got there Margo uh lot of uh garbage blue down to the ocean and the lake with that last Windstorm working on my Commissioners uh telling
people to secure their garbage and recyclables I I I'll try to talk to you separately myself I'm always cleaning it up myself you may want to entertain see if they're willing to do some kind of joint um shared services maybe with ocean because maybe ocean could take
care of that first Edgemont it's really Edgemont that's the problem ocean no no thank you no I'm just yeah they got a good we got a good trash gr trash program you do remember
lock arber's past right I I knew that'd be a sore [Laughter] subject never mind never mind thank you thank you okay um that was
Carol I have the same issue as Margo I I pick up so much trash every day it's crazy um like I'm I'm crawling in the rose bushes pulling it out I just tore my coat this week actually um and then the second thing and I'm going to be really
brief here is I think that um something I I touched on with Don last month is like I when in the in inperson meeting there was a couple of young people in the audience and you know we have young people like the keep club that are coming and we have our relationship with Mammoth University and I think we really
need to try to Foster that and kind of set ourselves up for the future with um you know younger adults youth programs and get them engaged I think that they're willing and interested and ready and maybe we can talk about that in the future right excellent
thanks okay um let's open I don't think I forgot anybody right no let's uh open it up to the public a motion to open the meeting to the public all offer second
second all in favor I oppos okay okay all right who who's out there who would like to speak goad I was gonna have nothing to say this week and surprise you all but uh don just the one thing with that Ocean Township with that shared services
yes Grant they're looking for just make sure Hollow Brook is on the list Hollow Brook lean that off and that's actually three towns uh border that Brook or sure it's three or is it two I thought it was all Neptune deal that uh Asbury is where the
dealership is really yep that old Cadillac dealership now something Motorsports is is Asbury Park MB MB Motorsports okay what house that house on on wikip
or not wikip on yeah wikip in Asbury what is that is that Asbury address or NEP right the houses right next to the bridge are in asy park and that's they are in okay y yep I wasn't sure about that very
good thanks okay anybody else yeah just jump in if you want okay that's it let's go a motion to close the public hearing so moved second second all in
favor I I oppose a motion to adjourn oh oh right our next sorry next meeting date just want to make sure is it what [Music]
is no March 20th oh that's right today's March 20th exactly yes okay March 20th okay and it will be hybrid right yes yeah
okay thank you yes yes yes sorry we were in the middle of no that's that's right a motion to adjourn yeah I guess I might have a problem in May well we'll talk about that next month I might have a
grandchild I might have to leave the meeting and and okay Rush we'll survive be a good news good news story we'll be okay Brian can show up for you that's right exactly exactly all right
that's have a good one guys wait we're not done somebody has a second thank you all in favor hi thank you