Okay. Um, we're going to start with the pledge of allegiance. You all stand. Iledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation >> under God, indivisible with liberty and
justice for all. >> Okay. Sorry, it's on the wrong side of the room, but that's the way. >> Okay. The notice requirements of the open public meetings act for this meeting have been met by transmitting the notice of the regular meeting to the commissioner's official newspaper on
February 12th, 2026, posting the notice where required and filing a copy of the notice with the commission clerk. The DA commission meeting will be audio and videotaped and will be shown on APV optimum 77 and throughout most of Mammoth County on Bios 28.
Alan Hurst, >> president. Asbury Park, >> yes. >> Deal. >> Yeah. >> Interlac, >> yes. >> Lock Arbor, >> yes. >> Neptune, >> yes. Here. >> And Ocean, >> here. >> We're all here. >> Nice.
>> Congratulations. >> First of you. >> Yep. >> That's great. >> I like that. Tonight, we have a resolution to approve the minutes of the reorganization meeting from January 15th, 2026. Deal in Neptune. I'm sorry. You can
offer and second but you cannot vote on this one. >> Allah Asbury Park. >> Thank you. Genie second. >> Thank you. All in favor? >> I >> opposed. Okay. So,
okay. Tonight we have a resolution to approve the treasures report and pay bills and Eric is going to read the report. All right, ready commission treasuries report bill list February 19th 2026
balance on hand previous month $31,532.72 misquan bank $16,8328 New Jersey Cash management fund $318,364.99 total on deposit receipts Township of Ocean 2025 assessment 19,750
Burrow of Deal 2020 >> is that six or 2026 I'm sorry 2026 assessment 7 >> $1,750 Burrow of Allenhurst 2026 assessment 2750 village of Lock Harbor 2026 assessment
3,750 rehold soil conservation district reimbursement for >> WQ >> WQ >> 2202 grant $3982.50 50
interest Madison Quan Bank 2025 >> $71260 is that six or five >> I six all right >> all right interest New Jersey cash management January 2026 $1.75 total receipts
$32,74686 total available $351,11187 dispersements 2025 appropriations 46.90 Genie Toner business cards. >> You could just do the
>> total just do the money. Yeah. >> All right. >> The subtotal of the >> subtotal is $2,739.96. The subgrowth total on grants is $10,75. Total dispersements for approval $12,861.86. Total balances $338,2501.
Total of balance $321,365.98. Manquan Bank $16,8843. Total on deposit 30038,2501. >> Perfect. Someone offer to approve the treasures report and pay bills.
>> Thank you. Second Alenhurst >> Asbury Park. >> Yes. >> Inter Garber. >> Yes. >> Neptune. >> Yes. and ocean. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Very good.
>> I think we have four out of seven swingies already assessments. I don't see Neptune on there, but I'll get on that. >> Yeah, that's right. They'll do it. >> They may have sent it already. Maybe. >> Okay. Where we at? Open
>> storm water management. >> Water management. Well, >> oh, hi. >> Hi. you for me. >> Yesterday I met with the new commissioner of D with the uh New Jersey or the plan New Jersey which is public lakes in New Jersey.
>> Um >> and it was interesting meeting. It was very very well but the elephant in the room was us. um because and it was have other elephants in the room but we were probably the biggest um issues all the lakes are having issues with the D with the grants
saying education gr you know permit permit problems um I guess people consider that we we didn't get a permit we really don't need a permit I don't believe but we do need they're okay on installation of the empty which we do
not have yet um they understand the uh um they're following up on it. It's going to take more time. We might get lucky and and and get an ext not extension of time, but we might get an extension to uh into the fall at least to get the
project done and the reporting done quickly. And our push right now is after we resubmitted the plans with the approved so-called approved MTDs, we reduced the number
from four to three. We're now taking out devices that were structurally fine and we're using them in our in the old plan. We're using them as as as a a stepping stone for cleaning the water. Um we've had we're diverting
the water the initial flow into our MTDs that we had selected that we've been using for years uh decades actually um and cleaning the water and we're using existing infrastructure and they wanted their their approved places. So we did
that. We submitted it. They came back with questions after questions after questions and and we submitted those answers and we got more questions and that's when Steve raises threw his hands up. Peter threw his hands up and I I started crying. So but the bottom line
was, you know, they're treating us as if we're a major construction project that we're building CV wall from scratch. Um that's how we feel. and and based on the wording, that's what it sounds like. So, we went back to him and said, "We're not
going to do it. We're not going to do it that way. We want to go back to our original plan, and we wanted to modify the >> We're going to go We wanted to go with rain gardens, but they they they >> Yeah, you don't even have to get into that. >> Yeah. If they >> Let me just add something. Don did a
great job in uh evaluating our project, responding to their denials, and requesting assistance. We haven't gotten any assistance yet, but he did get a response from the new D chief of staff. Very important position. Said he wanted
to speak to us this week, Monday or Tuesday. That was put off. I would be hopeful that we'll still be able to speak with him. >> Well, we we spoke to we spoke to the commissioner. >> Well, the commissioner, but we >> and his assistant >> that we know very well. So the things we told them is that we submitted a grant
application for the treatment of an existing mall parking lot with MTDs, manufactured treatment devices that they have approved at least five times for the DOA commission recently and our office design at least 10 more times.
That's 15 times they approved this device. Uh it was denied by their reviewer. We told them it's as Don just said it's not a major development. Major development is when you construct something that creates more than an acre
of land disturbance or Stephen more than a quarter acre of additional new impervious coverage >> I think is the way the rule is. We didn't do that. We're treating an existing parking lot that's disturbing, polluting, sending sediment
and pollutants into an arm of a deal lake that that traverses down into Terrace Pond by the golf course that we've dredged at least twice in the last 20 years and probably has to be dredged again. They
don't recognize that. I don't know why they don't recognize that but um project was designed and bid contract was awarded was reviewed and then one person gave their denial and we're requesting the D to uh recognize the fact that that
denial is inappropriate for this grant application since the application is identical to the design as we've been talking about for about two and a half years and uh we're just waiting to get the right ears. Hopefully a new commissioner will um >> we basically ask for a waiver. >> Yeah,
>> we ask for a waiver. The other >> if if we don't get that, we have a couple options. One is to thank them very much, figure out all the costs we've had and send the balance of the money back. >> Um and say we'll look at alternate funding sources for this. Um
>> that's right. And the other option is to >> Yeah. Ask Paul to ask Paul to seek >> intervene on our intervene on our behalf. Perfect timing. Um, >> but we have some things to talk about as the responses come back to us. So, we
really need that final response from DN. >> We might have to have a meeting prior to the next meeting just to discuss >> our options. What we have to do? >> I got a question. >> Yeah. >> How do we become the bad guy? >> Good question. >> And we're trying to do something good. >> Oh, by the way, we we won the governor's
award from management from the same team that's rejecting. I think that they get this isn't derogatory in any way, but I think the D gets representatives that sit there that have a set of regulations and they don't
understand how to either deviate from the regulation or approve something that should be approved u and they feel more responsible to deny an application they feel is like a development uh than to approve it. And then they'll deal with it and then we respond. We're not a
development. We're not a developer. We're not earning an income off of this. We're making an environmental enhancement and improvement to the wershed. We've done it similarly. I mean, this every one of our applications would have been denied if this same person reviewed it. We wouldn't have any
uh you know uh types of improvements that would have been approved. That's very frustrating. >> And the and the very MTDs that they're not approving are the ones that helped us identify the oil spill. >> They went in on Memorial Drive. >> They went in on Grand Avenue. We put one in on Comtock. We put a couple at the
Neptune public works yard. Um they were put in with the Army Corps of Engineers uh treating Wesley Lake and Fletcher Lake when the beach nourishment project went forward. And no, nothing absolutely nothing would be approved. Now, what
they're doing is they're Steve knows this much better than I do, but they're focusing much more on a higher degree of uh particulate removal. And when when Don said we changed the devices to one
that was on their approved list because of the size of the waterershed coming in, the size of the parking lot coming in, we couldn't get to the bigger unit that would take out it's you have to remove eight microns per milliliter. I forget what what what the unit is. And
we removed five with the smaller unit because those smaller units were in our budget. The bigger unit cost $220,000 a piece. And if we put four of them in for $880,000, that's quite close to the total grant
amount >> and utilizing the existing ones. It's also taking materials out. >> Yeah. >> With the overflow capability. So >> very frustrating. So here here's the response after we sent all this wonderful information about the new devices three of them the fancy devices
that DP wanted inline devices where we're ripping out the old con concrete chambers which are perfectly good. Um good morning doc given the information you provided us we are unable to approve the proposed MTDs their MTDs.
>> Yeah the information you provide shows that the units will not provide a meaningful water quality improvement. Therefore, they are unacceptable. So, we have nothing. We have no improvements at all. So, you know, that's where we're at. >> Right. So, and I I read that to the D
commissioner and I said I couldn't believe it. What did he say? He shook his head. >> John, is that is that one of the first letters or is that a recent letter that you got? What what's >> this is more recent? This is more at the top of the pile, >> Jeie. It was after the um
>> it's about an inch and a half >> after the redesign was completed after they denied the first set. >> We redesigned it with a different um >> structure. >> We fell in our sword. >> Yeah. >> And we went a different direction. And we did it in two Oh, I'm sorry. We did it in two days.
>> We did it in two days. >> They told us on the 16th. It had to be on the 18th or something. It was really >> Yeah. >> We did a great job. I I you know, I just pray we get it done right or get they they see the light in the game. the project and go to something else.
>> No, we're done. We're going to turn We're gonna write a check. We're gonna have C channel 12 News there. We're going to hand a check over to D >> or we're going to sue. >> This is what's left. >> I mean, that's that's our option. >> Yeah. >> Because we they did give us 200 plus,000
as a progress payment, I believe, to buy the MTDs they rejected. Yes. So just saying they don't the people that reviewed the original proposal. We probably should not if they read the package and it's supposed to the RFPs didn't say anything
about these MTDs. Um they shouldn't have given us the grant, right? They shouldn't have given us we didn't have compliant MTDs, but they gave us the grant. And two years went by because most of the time we were fighting with them on insurance issues and we basically were dead in the water until we got that the insurance back online.
And once we did, we got in May 2025, they gave us the full go ahead and we did the, you know, the final RFP process and went contract. We were on contract with precise construction to dig holes and to put these devices. They were going to order devices and I
>> we had to stop them >> a day or two. >> Yeah. We had to stop we stopped them from ordering them or we would have been liable for >> So there'll be impact on that. We're going to it's going to cost us something. >> I don't know for that problem. Well, it's it's promising that there is a new
D chief and that you met him and hopefully that will help because then you can have a meeting you said. So that's good. >> The meetings we had to meet that was yesterday. >> Well, you have a new chief of staff. So >> the meeting was yesterday. So, >> right,
>> email went out to the his um >> his support team today >> and uh and Katie, we know Katie Anaron, we know >> we dealt with we dealt with his assistant commissioner. We dealt with I think that's >> good. >> We'll see what happens. She's >> Yeah,
>> but she's also, you know, she said you guys don't feel you sign our do. I said I might have signed a document later on, but it's like 30 pages long and probably buried in there. This the requirement. I I admitted that. But it doesn't mean we weren't going that direction. We're
always going that direction. We were we weren't hiding the fact that >> right. >> So anyway, keep your fingers crossed. Say >> got them. >> See what happens. >> And luckily and maybe by now the ground is thawed and we can start taking a guess after the snow on Sunday.
>> Um okay, that's it. Anybody else have any questions on CV mall? I don't know. >> Dolls pens. >> Dolls and pens. >> Every time I drive by, I I cringe. Yeah. Be honest with you. It's It's our
premier project. >> Great project. >> It was a great project plan. Yeah. >> A bad initial phase. By the way, this only starts the process. I mean, technically, they need to do a lot more. We need to do a lot more and or the mall needs to do a lot more to hold the water
back. Yeah, we do the best we can, but >> yeah, >> don't say was yet. >> Right. Right. >> Right. >> Be positive. >> That's right. That's all right. >> Uh Genie Shine Protection you >> Well, speaking of NJT,
the DLC has a meeting set for March 12th with Steve, Don, and myself, the supervisors and bureau chiefs for water enforcement and coastal land use enforcement. and we'll be introduced to the new coastal land use enforcer for De Lake. She's just been hired, so that'll
be good. And we agreed during our last meeting with them on in June, June 5th, that's important for us to have regular meetings to keep our communications flowing um so we can have a cohesive connection that supports both of our missions. So, we're looking for status
reports on a couple of cases related to Allen Hurst and Interlate violations and a status report on March 27th, 2023, the oil spill from the NJ um D water enforcement people. If any commissioner
has a question or concern that they want us to address, if you email it to me before February 27th, um when Don and I are and Steve are creating the agenda for that meeting, we'll we'll try to get it onto the agenda so it can come up um in our
discussion with them. >> That's it. >> Perfect. >> I got I got to get you We're going to get a Zoom down. Um I'll get you that week before. for Stephen for you in the next few months. >> Thank you. Yeah. And then um you know when you get a chance to doesn't need to
be right away, but if you would um create a link because I'm going to send them an email um with with our um agenda and minutes, you know, and the link to to the Zoom meeting. So >> um they may want to do a different they
may not want to do a Zoom meeting. I think they didn't they run the meeting last time? No, you did. You sent them a Zoom link. They asked us that and I told them I I sent you I copied you on every communication with them. Um that we would that we would send the Zoom link
and she gave me the addresses for everyone to send. >> Okay, we can do that. We'll do that. We'll do that on that Friday we meet. Okay. >> And it'll just be an open link. You know, if you just send the link, then anybody who has the link from there can join it. We don't need to send every
address, you know, every person on the meeting a Zoom link. Okay. >> Yep. Thanks. That's it. >> I wrote good instead of goose. >> 2026. >> Oh, yeah. Good. Good. >> Not good. >> No, not good. I think remediation.
>> Now I know what you mean. >> Okay, we're on to all about good remediation. >> I was very pleased with that. >> We We are signed up again for goose remediation. We got the paperboard all signed, sealed, and delivered. But >> it's looking good. So, >> perfect. >> And get ready. >> Yeah, the geese will get cooked. Now,
one interesting comment that was happened in the meeting was um Katie was sitting right next to me and she goes, "You hear about the geese?" I was >> Oh, no. I can't get no calling the geese. She And I thought they were flying in and
because I heard a ton of g Did you hear geese flying around? >> Yes. All mass last night. last night. >> What was that about around midnight? >> I woke up to figure out. >> I went out. >> He texted >> outside and I never heard them.
>> No, I've never heard that many flying. >> Not just east, it's brand. >> Yeah, it was a lot. Anyway, >> they were sitting on the lake. They were all congregating. >> If you seen the reports, there's the birds dying all over. >> There was there was there was a Yes.
So if you have reports, >> there's procedures. There's procedures to follow. They want you to call DP. They want you to back it up. >> Yeah, they've been putting out a notice in that regard. I'm going to put that in our newsletter and up on the website for people.
>> Great. Did they give a reason? >> Perfect. It's perfect. >> What? >> It's perfect. That's what she's saying. They they did because they said on the news just now that they weren't sure if it was a cold and lack of food >> and water that but the bird they're
getting tested. I think bird fl had a thousand. >> Wow. >> Wow. >> I thought I didn't hear where it was supposed to do if you find a dead bird. >> Well, >> there's a report. You can report it. >> Okay. So, you call town and report it.
>> I think you call the the county health department. think is that correct, Genie? >> I I have to look at the information. I have it saved. >> You you can Google it. It's it's it's there. >> Well, who whoever asked that? I will I can send it send that information to >> send it to Bob. You can send it to all
of us, >> Bobby. Okay, sure. I'll send it out. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Uh anyway, that's uh the goose. >> Okay. The goose radiation. Okay. Any other old business? >> That's enough, right?
>> Um new business JCP know. uh diversion project. This is the big one. Uh they're they're taking some land Ocean T. I think it was voted on and approved. Correct. >> Ocean tag. >> Yes. >> So, a little sliver of Ocean Tia by Corley's Avenue Bridge is being given or
sold or >> Yeah. They're going to buy it's being assessed. >> They're going to buy a little piece of land um for a giant pole that's going to go in. And on Allen's side, they're putting another giant pole right down the street from Tony's house. And that's going to be the new power lines coming
down Orley's Avenue heading towards Alex. >> I I required them in interle and they weren't happy. Uh but I required them to come to the planning board because I called the footing a structure which it
is. It's 6 feet wide by 28 ft deep. >> It's huge. Yes. And then it holds um a diameter of it with a steel holds the 85 foot high steel pole. And the reason
they need it in Interlaken is because transmission lines come in from Ocean Township down Darlene from the west to the east and that's major because that comes all the way from Neptune down around the circle down Route 35 through
Ocean Township down Darlene to Wikipeka Interl and spots south come up Wikipekco and tie in and then it runs north to the area you're talking about Corley's Avenue. It'll make that turn and go over the bridge. >> Yep.
>> Into Allenhurst. And this is one of the locations over the bridge. And then in Allenhurst, it'll be tied in and then make the turn to their substation in Allenhurst. Their statement of need before the interlink in plenty board was
that they want to link the substation on Neptune Boulevard in Neptune Township with the substation in on Main Street in Allenhurst or transmission equity for lack of a better word better enforcement of their transmission.
>> That poll that poll was put up on that property is that on a person's property or is it right away? >> They granted an easement. >> Okay. the property owner or this may not have even happened but the property owner granted an easement for the installation of the of the utility pole. >> Yeah. >> And now they're contesting it because a
guide rail has to go on the street in front of the utility pole to protect the pole from being hit. That hasn't been done yet. >> That's a big pole. Yeah. So well that's that's example the size of pole. >> We made them colorize it. I don't know what they're proposing in ocean and pounders but if you look at it you if
you're not looking up you almost don't see it. very >> because we made it a terracotta color >> which was kind of good. >> You get that Darlene it's right in front of you Darlene Wikipeka smack there in front of you this giant ball. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So I I I when this was going on a couple
months ago I wrote a letter to >> I guess I wrote it to Jason to >> you wrote it to Jason >> JCPL >> and I said hey you got to take land when Ocean got a copy and >> you got and if you're going to do anything we want trees you're taking down trees. So,
we got some trees. So, >> and Lake and got some shrubbery. >> Yeah. So, >> because that's what was being removed. >> Yeah. So, we we did get some complimentary trees. Now, where we're going to put them, I guess we'll determine that later. Great. It'll be in Ocean Township somewhere around the lake, I believe.
>> Where do they take me down? >> They didn't take them down yet. >> Take me down. >> Right. Right. Right on the bridge. Cory's root south edge. >> Right. ankle little tiny spots.
Tiny tiny little spots. Anyway, the same area, by the way, they're going to close that bridge in a year or two. >> Yeah. Two years. And it's going to be totally redone. >> Now, that's interesting you say that because my understanding from them was that the transmission line is traversing
Orley's Avenue on the north side of Corley's Avenue. So when you come down with Capekco from the big pole they just put in at Darlene, it's going to cross Cors and run east on Corley's Avenue on the Ocean Township side, not on the
interle side. It's going to be running Oh yeah. >> So it'll come down when you get to the bridge. They're going to have to come across the bridge again. >> Yeah. >> To get to this corner. >> Sure. Sure. Sure. They cross the bridge down for they cross the bridge any cross the road anyway >> like at Ivy. >> Yes. Somewhere around. No, maybe middle
of the the main section between Stappa and and the >> Okay. I thought the bridge was this year. No, >> I I haven't seen a final plan. >> Yeah, >> the the design concept was done, but the final the final design and bidding of the bridge I probably put.
>> Did anybody see it? >> No, I just got the warning letter two years ago. >> We were part of the team. So, do you like Yeah, I'll let you know. >> Can't see anything. Anyways, um but that's good good news. Um painting of
the flume. Um I got a quote from uh painter took over from Harvey. Uh Chris, did I bring it? No. I have to wait till next month. You know what? I'll wait till next month. We have time. >> I'll make sure you guys get coffee. The
whole building inside >> the gate house gate house. It's got a >> um >> we did that once before. So I have a plan drawing if you want. We have special paint to use. We have that. >> Okay. >> Anyway, I'll have to I'll get that I'll get that out next.
>> That's very different than paint. Hold on. >> Spring cleanup. Now, this is a great question. We usually have the end of March. You guys have it. You want to look at your calendar. Let's figure this out. >> Still may have snow on the ground. >> That would be bad.
It's usually it's in March usually or April. First week in April, >> remember Easter is early, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Right. >> Palm. >> I think we had it the day before Easter. >> 28. I think you're right.
Yeah. 28th is Palm Sunday. >> 29th is Palm Sunday. So, Saturday is okay. I have wedding marked off. I It's not my wedding. Saturday. Can we come? >> Like we did the day before Easter last year. >> What's that? Day before Easter.
>> We did it last year. The day before Easter >> and some people have Good Friday. So >> that's right. >> Yeah. >> People go away too. >> Yeah. A lot of people I'll be away and >> April 3rd. I'm next Saturday after that. >> The Saturday, April, April 11th gets a
little late. You want to do it April 4th? >> April 1st as well. >> April 4th. >> April. >> That's before Easter. >> The day before Easter. We did the day before Easter last year. >> Make the lake look clean for Easter. Isn't that good?
>> The 11th week. >> The 11th. >> It's the fourth time. >> Orthodox Easter are 12. >> When Nice. I'm okay with the 11th. >> Can you come? >> You okay with my >> Okay, I'll make it the 11th.
>> Okay. >> Saturday, April. >> No, no, that's >> Saturday, April 11th. Right. >> Okay. >> Are we going to do a break day or no? >> 40 something. Okay. >> I know. >> 7 a.m.
>> You don't want to do a rain date the next day? >> No. Easter. >> It's not Easter. It's Greek. No, it's not Easter. >> No, really. >> We're not going to say rain. >> Put on the website. >> You can always put on the website on Facebook. >> Um,
>> I change the sign. I got actually Sunday signs >> 77. I have >> Wow. >> And be honest, we have enough weather. You can know the weather 10 days out for the most part, right? >> So, we can figure that out. >> That's that. Right.
>> And we're not going to lower the lakes, >> right? >> Maybe hopefully we'll find a loop. You know, I think we did have bad dead bow last year that I think we did. >> Dead turtles.
>> Okay, we're moving along. We're moving. >> Okay, we're ready. >> Um, any other new business? >> I did. Anybody else? >> I found something. You lost your
>> What? I didn't >> bring it up. Right here. >> The museum news. Museum news. Very important. Very important. >> Did you know? >> No. >> That George Washington came up. He took
a boat out of New York, came up to Deal Lake, which was at the time open to the sea. who we we know that he was aware of the inlet. He was aware of Deal Lake. Maps maps survives from the war years on which he drew a line from Freehold to
Deal Lake. Really? Did you know that Washington? >> I knew it came out um around we're going to say Alberon Avenue >> and he was negotiating with the Indians. He's going to you know >> interesting. Anyway, uh possible to mark to to resolve to be used to to harass the British ships. Revolutionary War
cannonballs have been unearthed over the years in the area around the lake. I like that. Cannonball. Revolutionary cannons. We have one at the museum. So if you want to go to the Ocean County Museum and see a cannibal that was found in De Lake,
>> I get a big tick out of that. So anyway, that's going to stop any further dredging project. >> Congratulations. Congratulations. Historical dig. >> Yeah, historical dish. >> Historical dig. >> We'll get different funding.
>> That should be like part of the 250. >> Oh, yeah. You're right. That's very interesting. >> It's all also going to be part of Oh, new business. >> Like it's the country's making lots of noise. That should be our something new.
>> There's a better way to say that. >> So, we the other the other new business is I'll help. We had a um a lake resident that like to help out and he designed some shirts for us and Carol's gonna be working with them. They're hoodies for the DA commission and uh >> the deal.
>> They'll be available for maybe uh 10 bucks. We Carol's going to be negotiating the deal. >> Nice. But anyway, did a nice job and he was very appreciative >> to have our work that we do. So >> once we get things finalized, Genie can put on the website. >> That's right. That's right. >> But the commissioners are going to have
opportunity. >> Okay. So, could I just uh you asked about the birds? If you find a dead bird, the the NJ the NJ has a online wild bird disease reporting form. If you go to their website and the the wild
bird reporting form, you fill it in and they will take care of it. They say if you do find it a double to double bag the carcass and place it in a um in the trash, but they would like you to report
it to them. And everybody has that number and 877 warn you know that number. Anyway, it'll go on the website and um and it'll be on Facebook and and our next newsletter, but just for your information,
>> the great there was a great blue heron and another Canadian goo who's fighting over the carcass that was on the lake. >> How would they if you double bag it and put in the trash, how are they supposed to know what it died from? >> That's ridiculous. >> They're just asking you to report it, I
think. I don't know. I haven't looked at the reporting form, but don't know. >> Make it your last word. >> I think they got a lot of birds here, so they're not testimony. >> Okay. Uh, commissioner, last word. Carol. >> Uh, I want to uh say special thanks to
Stephen for his um really wonderful presentation >> and uh thanks to Peter and Don for their hard efforts with the D on that very, very frustrating project. Um, and that as things thaw, as I'm walking around town, there's tons of trash. There's
layers of trash. As snow melts, it reveals new layers. And it's in the gutters and it's on the storm drains. So, whatever anybody can pick up now and throw in the trash, we'll just make it >> easier so that we don't have to actually crawl into the lake to pull it out.
>> That's smart. >> That's it. >> No, nothing. I mean, I I pick up stuff from right by my house all the time, you know. >> Tony. >> Oh, yeah. I like to commend you on your
workshop. Found it very interesting and informative. Um, this uh this thing with the D is very frustrating and I do I do understand what you're going through. When I was in industry and I had to deal with the FDA,
it was it was this thing. You get one person and they always try to make a name for themselves usually and deny deny deny. And >> but you got to be patient and you have to kind of try to go up the ladder. >> Yeah. And if it doesn't work, you move
move on to another project. That's we're going to leave it the way it is. You take care of it. >> Yeah. One of the important topics yesterday was to be part of a team. We're all part of a team to make the environment better. Yeah. Yeah. And that >> and you know they could pick the phone up and say, "Hey, Mr. Broccoli and Daily Commission, you didn't you didn't submit this form. You didn't do this. You
didn't do that." And we don't feel none of the people around the table yesterday felt we were part of a team with DP. It was we, you know, we were kind of almost the enemy and that that was that was not the right. >> It's not a good culture. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no. And and these people really
wanted the news really wants to make a difference and the people there are good. It's not that they're not bad. They're they're very intelligent. Um, but it's it's the mindset from above and I think it's gonna change for the for the better. So, anyway, okay. Um, Jeannie, what you got >> from above?
>> Well, I I'll echo what the what Carol said that I thank you for taking the time, Don, and um, Peter and Steve for to try to make this, no matter how frustrating it is, to make it work, and for, uh, continuing to reach out to the
newer people at the NJ. I'm hopeful, as you said, we'll keep our fingers crossed that this this works out. Um, I also would just like to say that, um, I'd like to see this year that we start to look at expanding our goose remediation
project. I think we all know that, you know, the geese population is growing more all the time and it really hurts the lake. So um we've also seen it's been an excellent project with support and approval by the seven towns that
that um have been involved with us and the USDA DLC project. So um as I I mentioned at another meeting, I'm looking into um the cost to do some treatment of areas that we have treated in the past um
with oh gosh the name of the product Steve >> stoppers right that product. Thank you. I'm doing some research on that. We'll come back but it's something I I don't know if we have the money for it. Do we
do we have money for something like that and or how much money? >> We're hoping the towns the towns would hope hopefully ship chip in on it because it's not not all towns we get the benefit of that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. But, you know, I guess >> we did a demo. We did a demonstration
project and it was >> Yeah. Do it the same way we've done it in the past. Uh where everybody pays a percentage by lakefront like we did like like we do with the um the current project, the USDA DLC
project. >> Thanks, Julie. >> Bobby this weekend. >> Yeah. the whole thing >> uh well I would just like to compliment you on a great presentation and
thanks Peter Ivaki and for your interest in the VA keeping water clean >> keep it clean >> but I I would say for a small little group like what we are here having a glove against the state of New Jersey to try to do something good I think is you
know a little on the rough side and uh you know I've had to deal with them on certain things and I know They're just very arrogant. That's basically my opinion of them. They're very arrogant and it's their way or you don't like it, it's too bad. But they
gave us money. If they if we knew that we had to use those different devices, we should we could have put in for a higher amount of money, which we could not do. So now we're stuck here in a position of what are we supposed to do? So >> yeah, >> you know, give them the money back. Even
will they accept the fact that we've already spent some of the money? >> Oh, yeah. They know that. They basically said that. >> Well, will they want it all back? >> About that. >> I know. I said >> they they made a comment um Jan whatever overseers basically said last quarter
just take that out of the 200,000 plus and we have additional bills. I mean it's not going to it's not going to end. We're going to spend every dime of that which and maybe they would owe us more. Um, but the the point is we don't want to waste federal money because it's so hard to get anyway. So why would you get
any a dime back for federal money? >> You want to use every dime and then so do they. I think they do too. >> Don, before you go, um, Steve, I'll speak on my behalf and Steve, Souza >> and our Stephen and Jesse and everybody that worked on this project. The one
thing that really made this project different is that we spoke about it together from the beginning. It's been two and a half years. I made three separate formal presentations here >> and we all knew what was happening and they knew what was happening and that's
what the frustrating part is. So I say at the very least if we aren't able to move forward with this, you're right, we have a project. We're going to keep it. Maybe we'll go after other grant money. Maybe we'll use it some other way and we'll be positive about it and we'll see. Maybe we just sit tight like Jeie
said, sit tight and see what happens and maybe we'll get something beneficial out of this. Well, look, one thing I look at is it's hard to deal with the DB grant money. >> Do we need to go out to private private >> funds? We may look at other opportunities. >> Look at other opportunities. Get get a
get another grant writer that that looks out over the all this non there's so many nonprofit groups that Thank you for my non-commissioners minute. >> I appreciate that. you used on >> I used anyway Steve thank well you had two
minutes Steve thanks a lot for put together absolutely good and and and doing any ad work that was awesome thank you very much um >> and we'll get this up online Jeie's I'm sure going to get up online with with
um with help you can so yeah but thanks again um we're not going to stop we're going to continue moving forward. But um I'll wait for that email tomorrow and the next on Monday. It's going to happen in next week. If it doesn't happen next week, it's over. >> You know, channel 12 news or whatever we
have to do. We get on TV. >> I have a conference room in my office. Invite them over. >> No, I'm going go right to TV mall. >> Okay. See, that that was one of the points. Why don't you guys come out and see the project? >> And I took I took a picture. Can't see it from It's just so I took a picture
and I sent it to him. This is this is the device that we have out there. I'll just show you picture the drawing. It's it's a it's concrete structure. This is built like a brick sh. It's tough and we got to they want us to rip these out and put in another device which we don't
really like because the developer >> will have to clean it and it's a little harder to clean. Extremely simple to clean along with this. You just put the shop back in there basically the big shop back and uh you suck it out. Anyway, that's that
>> I'm done. >> Quickly, a motion. The meeting to the >> Wait, wait, just real quick. We got >> Peter, you were mentioning how how difficult is it to get funding as much money as we're we were asking. >> This is a tremendously large grant that
we received for this project. So, it would probably be a series of smaller grants. You have to go to Kellogg Foundation. And you have to go to a private funding foundation and try to secure private monies. So you need a connection. We have some in the deal lake >> waterershed.
>> Go to Costco. >> So let's do it. What? Stand out front and hold out a bucket. >> We don't work on it though. Genie. Thank you. >> What do What do we need? 400,000 now. >> Um the >> by the time we get down a million. It's
not 800 over 890. >> Yeah. But that included the costs that have been expended that we have and we would >> Yeah. Postal bank. >> Yeah. So the the grant for construction would probably be in the 400 $450,000 range. >> Unless we put in bigger units. We'd like
to do more. You know, we took some areas away. >> Right. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um let's open a meeting to the public. >> Someone offer. >> All offer. >> Second. >> I'll second as Ray Park. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> Okay. public. How we doing out there?
Anybody would like to speak? >> Where's Bob? >> I don't know. Bob, I wish the D was on mic. Uh, >> hey guys. I'm on. No comment. All All good here. >> Oh, he's there. He's there. >> Hi, Bob. >> Hey. >> Are you seeing any bird issues, Bob?
>> No. You know, we're hearing everything that you guys are saying. Um, but I have yet to visually see anything like that. I'm hoping to not see it, frankly. Unfortunately, we'll probably see as soon as the ice >> melts. Josh is going to be keeping his eye.
I'll keep my eye >> and we'll scoop them up. Put them in >> I have fresh bags. Yeah, double bag. >> Actually, unfortunately, it goes in their net. So, you have to spray, but it's not it's not fun dealing with dead birds. Yeah,
>> a barn. >> Okay. Anybody else? Swan, you have any words of wisdom? in the winter. >> I know she's out there. >> They fly in >> flying out >> and then they fly. >> There she is. >> Fly out sometimes. >> We're going to have to get back on on on the bandwagon on on searching for with
the the community the sewer authorities searching for the hotspots. Okay. >> We do have to do that in this room. So, we we'll come up with a plan. Maybe you and I and and Steve will have a meeting and go over those things again. >> Yes. >> Okay. Is your comp is your uh compadre
there that >> Yeah, Joe is right here. >> Oh, is that Joe? Okay. Hi, Joe. >> Nice to meet you. >> Nice meeting you. Now, you work you work directly for clean water. >> Very good. Thanks. Welcome to the team. >> No, thank you.
>> Okay. >> Okay, that's it. Uh >> to close. Motion to close. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> oppose. A motion to adjourn the meeting
to >> second. >> I fe