Okay. Can we all stand for the pledge of allegiance, please? >> Pledge of Allegiance. To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all. >> Okay. >> Thanks. Thank everyone for coming on this beautiful December day. Crisp full moon out there. You noticed >> Jesse >> the notice requirements public meetings
act for this meeting will be met by transmitting the notice of the regular meeting to the commissioner's official newspaper on February 6, 2025, posting the notice where required and finally copy the notice with commission clerk. The dealer commission meeting will be audio and videotaped and will be shown
on APV optimum 77 and throughout most of Mammoth County on FIOS 28. Alanhurst. >> Okay, you're all muted, so you have to unmute them. >> Is Alan here? >> Alan's not here yet. >> Asbury Park, >> yes. >> Deal
>> here. >> Inter Neptune >> here. >> And Ocean >> here. >> We have a nice full house. >> Steve here. Did Steve get on? We're almost >> almost full house. We have
>> We're miss Oh, yeah. How they knew you truth. Tonight we have a resolution to approve the minutes from the regular meeting of October 16, 2025. Someone please offer >> as part second.
All in favor? >> Opposed? Tonight we have a resolution to the treasures report and pay bills. Not going through that. >> Uh balance on piano previous month
uh total on deposit 121,897,3.36. Total receipts $24,59012. So the total available $326,48748. The total dispersements were $13,38348 for a total balance of $313,14.
>> And 200 of that was for the endorsement for the grant. >> 200 200,000 was advanced payment, right? Advanced payment piece. Someone please offer the treasury board and pay bills. >> Interlac offers
>> second. >> Second motion. >> Motion as park. >> Yes. >> Deal. >> Yes. >> Inter. >> Yes. >> Garber. >> Yes. Neptune. >> Yes. >> And ocean. >> Yes.
>> First one. Okay. I'm supposed to >> storm water management grants CV mall. We're in a stop work order basically from the state of New Jersey. Is that a best way to say it, Pete? >> Yeah. You know what? I can give >> as of 2:30 today. >> Yeah. Let me give you the project status
very briefly. Um D indicated that they would not accept the vortex units that we proposed in our original grant agreement that they approved. >> Right. that we've used five times previously in our projects and I've used
15 times over the last five years. >> Right? >> They're the storm water management basins that are constructed to remove uh sediment, petrochemical and um all that run. They evaluate them and
they rank them and apparently they didn't rank them high enough to remove 80% of the uh pollutant ladder that they say is needed for them. Initially >> they changed the test standard something less than 80%.
>> They changed the standard what >> they changed the testing regimen. >> Yeah. >> 50%. Sorry, >> they ran this 50%. >> Talking to the the contractor, the vendor of the product, they basically have to modify their device total.
>> I don't want to go into detail. The other devices are either deeper, >> uh, which would be very difficult here because you see where we are, but you're going to be in groundwater if you go down 5T more than we're going down. Um, or they have to be online. We talked about this. This unit is offline. The
flow goes into the chamber that's there. Now, it goes over into this unit, through the unit, gets cleaned, goes back into the chamber that's there now, and then into the basin. Uh, so we'd have to put this pond line, which would probably mean we'd have to remove all the basins that are there now. And it
would cost probably $500,000 more than we're anticipating it costs. >> They give you extra money. >> No, they won't do anything. No, >> no extra money. No extra time. >> No extra time. So, they're not going to the other thing they're not going to allow us to do is we use the Department of Agriculture soil survey to
and Steve can talk more about this if we want to, but to classify the soils for the rain gardens. So, we have a justification for the rain garden depth, percolation rate, all those things. They're not allowing us to use that. They want us to go out and take uh soil samples out there and provide a
justification for the percolation rate. Um they're requesting revisions to the rain garden maintenance plan, >> which we said we'll do. >> Yeah, we said we'll do it, but it's unnecessary. Um and they're requiring construction completion by July 31st and D review from July 31st to October 31st.
So um basically they're asking us to redesign the project. Unfortunately, the only thing we complete is the base map because everything else was designed based on these units being used and these units were approved by them in our grant application submission
>> and and they made a a payment to us project >> $200,000 payments. >> So that's where we are now. Um we're not fighting with them. We're looking at alternatives to get the project down. Um, >> in the very beginning, Peter, what was
it you said that they have they would not accept >> are for MTDs? >> The manufactur manufactured treatment devices that we designed uh as a part of this project. >> Genie, the MTDs we have at Comtock, the
MCTDs we have at Sunset, the MTDS we have on Memorial, >> once that are on Kingsley, they're all the same. Neptune has five at least more. Um Mammoth County used 19 of them in Spring Lake, Seagurt Wall, and Spring Lake Pikes.
>> All got approved by the state. >> And and the date October 21st we first got word of this >> and and we've been talking to them ever since. That's right after our meeting, right? That's >> that was right after our last meeting. Three and a half years after the initial >> three and a half years after they
reviewed the original proposal which included photos, descriptions and history, >> right? >> Got it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And the reason was what what was the reason for not accepting them now? >> The reason is because it's not we
supposedly I probably signed it. There's a document I sign that's somewhere in a 20page document or whatever it is that says we have to use approved MTD devices that's there's a list and our device is not on that list and all the ones that are on the list
>> are extremely expensive to maintain they have cartridge devices and or deeper than we need to be so >> I know they changed the storm water regulations more green part but it's not >> no it's not no it's it's Steve can expl
explain it better than I can because it's very technical but it's a listing of um >> their best management practices and they have a list of these units you can go online and see them ask Steve hey Steve >> if I can yeah if I can interject so you know to answer that question
correct the storm water rags were updated however the storm water rags and and this was all explained in a memo that was sent to DP in detail that the storm Home water regs are specific to
new development and redevelopment which this is neither. So those regulations have no bearing on what we had proposed to do or what we are doing because we're not developing anything. We're not creating a disturbance of more than an acre. We're not adding any new
impervious cover. It's not a new development. And they acknowledge that. As Peter is saying, they basically dug their heels in and and they have a list of these approved MTDs which are tied
back to the new storm water rigs. So, it's a circular argument. Unfortunately, I don't think we're going to win the argument with them because, you know, they're of the position that it has to be something off of this list. And that's, you know, and that that's where
we are. were stuck in in this position and all the other minutia about soil testing and redoing a maintenance plan for the rain gardens and more detail on the planting plan. That's all minutia. That's stuff that can easily be addressed like in a couple of hours. But
the big thing is, you know, we've got these structures that cost a lot of money. the, you know, the um supplier will not begin construction on them unless they're prepaid and we're at an impass with D. That's basically it.
>> So, here's here's what we did. We we've been talking to our assembly assemblywoman uh Donan and also Vgo Pal and and they've been on it. They sent their I guess there's standard Eric would know the standard leg questions to the D through the legislation through
the legis um and there's I guess a D layers on right so that information went down and today they basically said you got to comply and and they that's what they told the our senator and assembly woman um and I got found out about 2:30 I got the phone call from the D. were
gracious enough to tell me that. Um, but I also shot a memo out to Vin Go pal and I said, "What do we do next?" I mean, how can we how can we solve this problem? And I think it's a higher up. The person that gave me that message was the head of the the organization. He's basically defending his team. I mean, I
I got it. >> Storm section of the correct his whole his right stormwater group made that decision and he's he's defending his his team. So, I got that. But I think the logic of losing $800,000 federal money
uh and basically giving it back, not only us, but the state would give it back is kind of stupid. U it doesn't pass the common sense tests. Nothing does in this case. You know, technically we probably shouldn't have got the grant with our proposal. We shouldn't have won the grant, but gee, we've been going
along and getting beat on. You know, we've been getting beat on all the long way. We had an insurance issue which they signed up up to and we think we fixed that and that was almost nine months of of dealing with insurance. So you know things tied thing tied we only
got the go-ahad last May on the project the official go-ahad. So even though it went back to 2012 and you know again let me interject because they had all that time to review the specifics and as you pointed out Don it was clear in our
grant application because we included photos we included ex you know evidence of how they're maintained that we were going to be using these same specific type of MTDs that we have used and they
have paid for at least three different times. So, you know, this is like catching us by surprise. But, as I said, you know, while they were going through all this stuff with the uh insurance and getting that UEI number and all the rest of that stuff,
um, nobody took a look at any of this and said, "Hey, do you guys think you can, you know, you know, revise this to some extent?" We may have had time then to look at some of these other alternatives or talk to the mall about perhaps encroaching else, you know, up
into their parking lot, but we just can't do it. >> Yeah. >> Is there any appeal process? Like >> is there a way to appeal? Is there a way to appeal this because they agreed along the way >> and they basically ambushed us at the
end? >> That's exactly what we're doing. It's exactly where it's done. Steve, myself, and and Dave from uh Peter's office had a a face tof face with him and I asked for it. Um and it it went well except the bottom line is they didn't smile too much and they basically told us this is
the way it is and that's that's when we actually went back and and went to Vin Gopal and and I set a >> government that's the way it is. >> That's the way it is. That's the way it is. That's the way it is. >> And basically, you may not be able to do a project because that's the way it is. >> You have to change. You have to change
your And actually they should give us more money. >> And the funny thing was I Steve I think I think I asked the one guy I said why don't you which one would you want to put in? Just tell us which he goes I can't tell you. I can't select one for you have to
select. I'm going oh great that's great. Could you give me this the top the top three devices that are that are thrown in the ground in state New Jersey? You know they could have done that but he didn't do that. So anyway um we didn't like anything we saw. I mean, most of them were deeper and the ones that's had
canisters in it, it was the ones they have on the list seemed like they're they're meant for uh lakes that have drinking capability, right? Or swimming capability. They're >> Well, I mean, not really. I mean, they're there. If you look at that list again, it's tied back. You look right at
go to that website and right at the top of the page, it says post construction storm water management NJAC 7:8, which is a storm water res, you know. So this is this is to satisfy the storm water regulations. Okay. And it says right
there the first sentence, an MTD is required to be CAT certified and DP certified when the MTD is used to satisfy the requirements of the storm water management rules. We're not we don't have to satisfy the storm water
management rules. That's it. It so I know it's a circular argument. we, you know, I don't know how much clearer I could have gotten in my, you know, my letter to them, but it has nothing to do with new development. And so therefore, they're, you know, using a a regulation
that has nothing at all to do with the hell, you know, we're doing. >> Well, we we'll keep on it. Um, you know, we're going to get Paul involved a little bit maybe if he would like to. And then, you know, Vin's involved. We'll give Vin a couple days and see what we get when we get back from Vin. Um, maybe take it up to the commissioner
or take it up to the governor. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And we have other avenues to take. We have other people that know the >> Steve, I just pulled up the manufacturer treatment device section >> and it noted it's noted that it was updated in 2023, which is kind of interesting
>> that it was updated after our grant application was approved. So maybe that's another factor that >> grandfather did. >> Yeah. >> I get it off of >> Yeah. But I talking to the company that wasn't it wasn't qualified at that 2013. It was taken off.
>> Anyway, all right. That's it. That's the latest. All great news for for Christmas, right? Maybe Santa will bring bring us a waiver. That's what >> put in my I'll put a big stocking up my mail piece. Okay, that's it. Let's keep on going. Um, Shoreline Protection.
Genie, you had a nice letter sent to the D. Did you get any response there? >> No, I just sent it a couple of days ago. And you know, Tammy only works part-time, so I don't know when she got the >> the email, but we'll look for a January
meeting. That's what we're asking for, >> right? >> I know it's a different group of people. Too bad, cuz it would be nice if we could meet in person or virtually with the people that we need to for this other pro for this project that we're talking about,
>> right? We we did that. They they didn't like us too much. Um, okay. 319 grant. Um, we did the worst. Oh, that one we we we I think we mentioned it. We didn't get that grant. >> Take that off the Yeah. So, we talked
about last time we take that off the agenda. Uh, clean up on the 25th was excellent. Um, a huge turnout. I would say 160 people or something like that. Um, over over a ton of material get got removed. Um, and we're and we took a lot
of stuff out after because we had the storm right afterwards and everything floated down to the the flume and Josh helped out with a couple buddies of his and got a lot of material out logs and things and boards, giant boards. I don't know where they came from, but they loaded up from the bottom and off they went.
>> Did you have the boy scout or something? >> The week before we did. >> We had we two weeks before we had the boy scout. >> It helps. >> Yep. and New Jersey Natural Gas was teamed up and they did the surrounding area and that that was low because there was storm cover. So, we were able to get little shoreline there. So, between both
events, we collected 2400 pounds. >> Yeah, it was pretty good. >> Okay, we got oil spill. I did follow up an oil spill with the state. I have not I got the email out and um the D person
basically was looking into it. I I didn't get any response back yet. So, but >> did you get in touch on with Ginger Banker from water enforcement? >> I did. I did. >> Okay. >> And she's looking into it. >> And you had the you found the number the incident report number because I got
>> I found that after we spoke >> um Asri Avenue the storm that still has not been done. I haven't seen any action on it. So, and last meeting we talked about them coming out and fixing at least the the gutters, right? The the
curbs, and they didn't do that yet. So, that's going to be another phone call. >> Um, any other old business that we forgot? >> Um, go ahead. I just the one thing and is uh and I just spoke with Jesse. We
kind of didn't get to finish in order to um put it on the website as a temporary thing. We need the dates for the 2026 meeting schedule and I know we passed it in October. I can put it up as a um you know temporary but just so we have the
dates and everybody knows >> Park wants the dates they got. So we'll put our dates up when we get it done. Well, we we did pass the dates in October as a as a temporary. >> Oh, we did not. Okay.
>> So So no dates go up on the website for next year yet. >> The only date that's key is January January 15th is key. >> January 15th, >> the first reorgan So we're only putting up January 15th, >> correct? >> And then we vote on the other dates that
are reorging. >> Okay. Am I wrong though? Didn't we already vote for temporary dates? >> Not this year. >> We did do it. >> We didn't do it this year. >> So, we're going to vote on January in
January 15th for the schedule. >> Okay. We can >> It's the third Thursday of every month. >> It's It's standard, Jeanie. It's a standard. You You can You can put You can guess and put it on the website. It's okay. It's the third Wednesday. It's the third Thursday until we get the
January meeting. Then we'll correct it. Okay. >> Okay. And and then except for December, right? >> And no and November we don't >> and November when we don't meet. Okay. >> And the July time. Well, hold on. There was always a July date. >> Well, don't worry about that. >> I know.
>> Well, I can put July TBA, you know, like we did for a while last year. >> Exactly. >> That's good. Okay. >> Just put TBA July. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> TBD. TBD. >> TBD. to be announced. To be announced,
>> okay, new business. Um, the budget. >> The budget. >> I'm looking at it. I I if you guys >> I didn't get it. I didn't see it. So, >> you got it. I got on the email, >> right? When did you send it? Because I know you said you were going to send it.
>> I sent it about one o'clock. >> Okay. I didn't I didn't get to go over it. thing as it is over here. >> I always get extended. So I'm always questioning the second two columns. Right. The appropriation unexpected balance. So
basically we spent $43,000. Right. >> Right. >> Okay. >> And we had 35,000 left over surplus basically. >> Yes. >> Not surplus but unused. >> So there's no major change. I don't see any no one.
>> Where's the insurance issues? % >> insuranceances are 4500 413 over 413. >> Okay, got it. Got it. >> And we spent 36 3763 got engineering fees maintenance. Do we
have to increase our league with fees? >> I think it looks pretty good. Um, >> it really doesn't change. >> Util here's utility expenses. That's That's electric, right? >> Yeah. The Verizon bill. >> Verizon. Okay. Verizon came. >> Okay. Thank you for that.
>> Um, can we separate administrator? >> Yes. >> Right. Okay. >> Because that was the big issue before >> utility expenses. I mean, I I wouldn't mind seeing utilities and just, you know, what is it? Verizon and SL. Well, down the road and
electric, right? That's really all we have. He'll blame all sewers. There's no sewer that's at the flu house. I can tell you that. Okay, I'm good with it. Um motion to >> to accept it.
>> Like an office. >> Second. Do we have a second for the budget? >> Thank you. >> Any any questions? >> I can't bring it up, so I'm I I don't know if it matters whether I vote for it. I can't vote for it without looking at it. I'm sorry. I just Hold on. Hold
it up. How's your eyes? >> Hold it up. >> I'm trying to bring it up on my computer. >> Yeah. >> And you said you sent it. >> Send it to you now. >> Carol's going to send it to you right now. >> Okay.
>> It's a It's a beautiful thing. >> Just Just so everybody knows, the town's per you are broken up by shoreline. It's $50,000 and we use 29,000 of our surplus for the budget just so we're pretty much close just
just above just below 50,000. We're pretty much living off what the towns give us. Uh and there'll be we think there's going to be exceptions to that. So that's why we have a little higher budget. >> Okay. >> The general lake manage that's the big ones.
>> That's where the big difference if everybody looks at lake maintenance. Um, we have allocated 29,000. We only spent 88 $8,27. >> I can see some >> Yeah. >> court remediation next year. >> Okay.
>> All right. We're going to have to vote on Genie. >> You go ahead. I I'm going to abstain because it's not coming through and I don't like to vote on things I can't see. >> So, I'm sorry. >> Yes. >> Inter Lake. >> Yes.
>> L Arbor. Yes. Neptune. >> Yes. >> And Ocean? >> Yes. >> Anything else under new faces? >> Um yes, of course. Um
there one second on me. You know, just want to mention that the land you saw some big sign by the bridge in Allenhurst, you know, >> and Ocean Township going through a a phase where JCPNL wants to, I guess,
purchase a lot, which is Green Acres, and that's got to go through hoops on that. Um, it's right on the lake and they're going to put a giant pole up, metal pole at that location. There's going to large poles going. You'll see them coming in. Wick up. They're putting a big pole in inner lake which is taking
the power from Darlene and sending it down eventually down Corley's avenue. So there going to be all new poles on Corley's and eventually going into Allen's a giant pole in Alen >> foot diameter >> and there's a big argument in Alenhurst and a battle going on and and my concern
it's it's it's the meetings at December 16th at 6:30. I'm going to try I can't make it. I'm going to try to send a little letter about the trees because they're going to cut trees now. Can they you replace trees? Now JC P has a bad history of not doing what they say they're going to do. So they cut trees
down at Allen and didn't replace I think it was 14 they were going to replace. They haven't done yet. >> So I'm going to try to get Ocean to get something out of them for that. Um so I just wanted you to know about that. That was hot topic. Um >> okay. I reviewed the I reviewed and I
vote yes. You can add me in. >> Delayed vote. delayed. >> Um, thank you. >> Also, Ocean Tatchup, they're they're doing work on the sewer sewer lines, and if you see smoke coming out of the sewers, don't worry. It's okay.
>> So, I don't know what that's all about, but it's pretty interesting. And Dr. Sworner, she actually's been involved with us before. So, she's going to come in February and talk to us about this project, which is interesting. >> Toast. >> It's a toaster project. >> Not a township. >> Not a township project.
Um I got a memo today from uh Dave Brown. Um it's from Peter Ivakian's company, his one of his engineers there. And the dredging of fire fireman's pond has been delayed. They had some problems with mucky muck sloppy muck.
>> Two problems. It was >> they started to dewater and the slleg gate uh someone someone poured concrete on the on the far side of the slleg gate. So when they open the gate up to drain the water out it didn't go nowhere because there was concrete
there. So we had to call Jason Burke in because DPW couldn't do it. Jason Burke removed the concrete, replaced the sloogate. And then when the county who was doing it work started to work on the uh dredging it was for lack of a better word gelatinous. >> Yeah.
>> It was very soft and their equipment couldn't access it. So they stopped the project for the time being and we'll come back. >> The other piece was when they dumped it into deal test site to make the burm. >> Yes. >> It didn't form. It's just kind of >> like that's why you have to find a dewatering site first.
>> Yeah. It didn't have the right consistency. So like play. >> Why is it like that? probably the residents in Ocean Township around the lake. Oh, sorry. I don't know. I don't know. We've seen it before. We saw it like that in Wesley Lake once when you
were around uh on a township committee. Um and what we did in Wesley when we dredged when it was very viscous. Um we dumped wood chips in. The contractor agreed to take out more material because
of the chips absorb the water and then we had to chop some trees down. >> Yeah. Chop the trees down. No trees take them over, shred them, put them in the >> So we have our watershed the watershed ambassador. Correct.
>> Yeah. >> Introduce yourself. >> I'm Mr. Bson. I'm part of the Americanore New Jersey watershed ambassador program and I'm the watershed ambassador for wershed and I come to this meeting to introduce myself to the
commission. Um if you don't know what we are, we're a program that works with communities and agencies and provide free educational outreach to the public and communities to foster stewardship of waterhed. And we also work with these
agencies for projects such as rainarrel workshops or rain gardenings, uh, tree plantings, and I want to offer my services and maybe partner. >> Great. I love that. >> How long are you going to be with with the group?
>> Uh, it's a 10 month 10 month long term and it'll be July, but I can always >> Okay. So, you'll be you'll be around for the next cleanup in March. >> Yes. >> March, April time. So >> you call fella in DP for us to ask questions.
>> Yeah, I know. I know. >> We always say nice things. >> All right. Well, welcome and we're glad to have you along. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um, is that it for uh new business? >> We're good.
>> Okay. Um, >> what else? Last word. Let's do the last word right now, >> Margaret. Um, I am thrilled that Melanie is back as my alternate. I feel like we all >> Yeah.
>> Thank you very um and apparently our sewers are going to be vacuumed down. >> But um >> you're getting vacuum. We're getting gas. >> Yes. Yeah.
>> But maybe vacuuming is not the correct word. >> It's okay. Well, that's what Yeah. Um, >> are they inspecting your sewers? >> I did not hear that word. >> Because we think we think there's a lot of cracks in your sewer pipes. >> Oh,
>> that's based on windows and action testing. >> Okay. >> So, we'll see what happens. >> We'll make a note of that. >> Yeah. >> It's on our website. It's on our website. >> And also, uh, hope everyone will drive down Ocean Place and see that there's
not one grain of sand on it. Right. >> Wow. Wow. >> What did you do? >> I'm sure that sweep it up. >> I But it was mysteriously gone one day. >> A great polar you have.
>> Okay. >> Uh I wanted to say that uh the cleanup on October 25th was probably one of like the best group of volunteers we've ever had. >> Oh yeah. >> Highest quality volunteers. I mean, they were they were really really super helpful.
>> Hanza Hanza >> super helpful. Um and and and I want to say kudos to uh the Mama University team for organizing that. Each group had a captain and they all communicated really well. >> They showed up at the right place which
was amazing. First time. That was the first time. >> It was it was really really terrific. And >> I'm going to get a chance to thank the president soon. So >> that's great. They they were they were terrific. And uh aside from that, uh happy holidays everybody. Okay. We'll
see you in January 15th. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, congratulations on the cleanup. Sound like very well. >> Like to wish everybody a happy holiday and a great new year. See what happens. See what new year next year brings.
>> Maybe good news. >> Bobby, what you got? Um, nothing much going on in deal, but the town meetings tomorrow morning at 9:00 a.m. because so many people can make that. And the questions are going to be
um parking at the deal casino because it's been a pro. It's always an issue. So um yeah, and thank you for not hosting 9:00 am meetings. >> No problem. We thought about
>> 9 p.m. Um, >> Jeie. >> Yeah. Um, so mine is a question. I'd like to know, uh, Paul, are you able to do you have an update on Asbury Park's uh, signature on our charter and
assessment? >> I think we should discuss it in executive session under contract negotiations. >> Yeah, we're going to do that after after the meeting. We're going to ask you to turn the recorder off and we're going to have a meeting on that. Okay. And >> Okay. We'll dismiss all the public and then we'll have the meeting. Okay.
>> Okay. Great. Um besides that, I I I'm glad to know that you've involved uh Vin Gopal and the other assembly people to help with this >> tragic. It sounds just so tragic to me. >> It's tragic
>> the development with the MTDs at the with for this grant. It's it must be very depressing for everybody. you've been so deeply involved with it. So, I'm hoping hopeful that um that they'll be able to meet with you
and find a solution because this is I mean I know there was a lot of this with the last grant as well, but this is just really sad to hear about. So, >> and not saying we're perfect and we're not saying we did did everything right, but the bottom line is we didn't realize
that we we weren't compliant. We we didn't do it >> right. We just we we told them right from the getgo was like switch it in last minute. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, I wish you know good luck with it and you know I don't know if
there's anything I can do let me know. Um or I'm sure everybody's all the commissioners are >> feeling the same way in terms of willing to help. So if there's anything we can do locally, whatever, let us know. >> Okay. Well, I I was I was not happy at
2:30. Then my my uh my daughter sent me a picture of my grandson chewing on celery. I said, "Isn't that cute?" And then she sent me another picture. He's getting bathed. So, you know what? It brightened my day. And uh and then we had the picture the other day with I bought him a sled up in New England.
They're up in New Hampshire. >> So, anyway, I don't know if you guys can see that, but I think it's pretty darn cute. So, if you're a Facebook friend of mine, you go. So, and that brightens my day. And we're going to work this out. I think I think it'll work out because I think that we I look I don't want VP
looking bad. I don't want us looking bad. I want the deal laid cleaner and and the C view mall in better shape than it is now. This this was a a milestone project. >> I tell you what we're going to do in the next month or so. Uh unfortunately I don't know costwise what we think we
have available but uh Steve Meyer Steve Souza and I are going to meet and go through the list of units approved by D and see if there are anyone that would be I'm looking at the 80% removal and the contact filter filter device is on
the 80% removal list. >> Yeah it's a box a three box >> right >> that's what it is. >> Here's here's a comment they made to me. Why don't we just put that in say $500,000? >> Here's a comment they made to make. They said the MS4 program requirements for
all the towns, if they have these boxes, they will not qualify. Will not qualify MS4. But if you clean out your storm drains and your street, that'll qualify, I believe. So, >> okay. >> There's this has nothing to do with MS4 either. >> Well, that's what they that's what they
said to me on the phone. >> Yeah, I know. I know. They're saying that in terms of MS4 compliance, but and Right. So yeah, don't get me started. My blood pressure just we got to go. >> All right, we're gonna we're gonna get the public. A motion open the meeting up
to the public. >> I I make a motion to open the meeting. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I oppose. >> Okay, public. >> Who's out there that would like to talk? Let's do the ins house first. Huh? Robert. >> Yes. for the delayed Alliance. We're
doing a walk through going to be on January 10th from 9:00 a.m. to 11 a.m. in the parking lot. >> Probably see where we go. Should be a bird. We're looking for migratory ducks, eagles, whatever.
>> Okay. Fishing, really cold weather. We'll see how it goes. Very cool. Okay, that sounds great. Yeah, we have >> 91 >> and otter. Look for river >> pretty cool.
>> Bob, could you send me the email me the information? >> Thank you. >> Anybody else? Okay. Anybody? And on the on the on the public on the screen, anybody out there? >> Sure. Sure. I don't This is Michael from
Wanamasa. Um, I don't have much to add, but I wanted to thank you, Don, for being so responsive to my emails about the um the the the drainage problems that we having on my street and the dredging. I appreciate it. >> No problem. No problem. >> Wow. >> And thanks for calling. I mean, that's,
you know, squeaky wheel, not squeaky wheel get, but you know, you see something, say something. That's it. >> Yeah. See something? Yeah. If we don't know about, we can't do it. A woman called me. One of my neighbors called me and we found three bags of trash over the over the West Bridge going to West Allen. literally, you know, a couple
blocks from my house and just strewned all over the place. It looks like somebody just emptied the back of the car and she spotted it. She called the town. I think she called this lady next to me and she said, "Paul got Bravo." >> So, I went over to my my my trash picker and I started picking up some trash, but
she said she's going to have her her friends handle it and uh so I let him do it. But it was a lot of trash, >> trash food. >> It was like three or four bags of trash. White trash bags. Yeah. It looked like somebody from DA Commission threw it over, you know, out of the truck. So anyway, but thanks, Mike. Thank you.
How's how's it going? Is it any better? >> Uh, no, it's not, but but as you said, it's it's probably not the worst that you know is around town. So, um, we'll see what happens. >> Okay, very good. Thank you for that. Anybody else from the public? >> I got a couple scouts out there. Any of
you guys have questions or what? >> Yeah, I have. >> What do you got? Uh, oh, go ahead, Jack. Um, when is the next cleanup? >> It's going to be near the end of near the end of March. We haven't picked the exact date yet, but we'll give you an
idea. Hold on. We'll give you an idea. >> We're gonna give you an address for I think clean up a house. >> Yeah. >> Um, probably it's probably gonna be the 28th of March, unless it's a problem. I say >> my >> I have a I have a wedding date. I have a
wedding next question mark. >> We don't know. >> And um April 4th. So be one of those dates probably. Okay. So the last week in March or first week in April. >> Okay. >> Saturday. >> 28th. >> And if you want to clean up the whole week, you're more than welcome to do
that. >> Good question. >> He needs he needs eight hours. >> That's right. Well, >> well, trust me, I have projects from specifically for for Jack and Andy, the other scouts. Um, I got rakes and I got locations, garbage bags and all that.
So, it's it's, you know, two scouts and two adults and we can we can nail it. So, uh, easy stuff. Easy stuff. Like down and as some stuff and one mass some stuff and Neptune. So, easy stuff to pick up. Okay, >> that's it, I guess. Huh? Okay,
>> thank you all for coming. >> Wait, wait, wait. Close the public hearing. >> We got to close public hearing. >> Don, real real quick question before you close. Did you hear anything about the Obury Bridge from >> the Mammoth County Department of Public
Works? Yeah. >> You know, the one we've been after for the last six years. >> Yeah, we talked about that. No. No. The answer is no. >> Nothing. Nothing since the last meeting. You mean >> I think we I did talk to him after the right after the last meeting and he said he was they were going to work he was
going to get the with the team and get it done. >> So, but obviously it didn't get done. >> No. >> Okay. >> We need a motion to close the public hearing. >> So moved. >> Second Peter Lens. >> All in favor?
>> Okay. >> So, thanks for coming. We're going to have to ask >> We're gonna now we make a motion to go into Senate. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. a motion to go into close session. >> Asbury makes a motion already.
>> So, we have to ask the public to leave. >> I thanks for coming. Merry Christmas. >> Happy holidays. >> Go ahead. out of the executive session. The board isn't taking any further official action tonight. And do we have
a motion to adjurnn? >> Do you want to refer to the mot to action? >> No, no, no. >> Vote adjournment. I >> I