Good evening everyone and welcome to the special board meeting for the uh Dearbone Public Schools. It's April 9th and it's 6:04. So, could we call the meeting to order? Roll call, please. >> Trusty Bazy >> here.
>> Trusty Drosio >> here. >> Trusty Mos >> here. >> Trusty Pelich >> here. >> Trusty Subah >> here. >> Trusty Zaher here. President Aljahi >> here. Uh, next item. >> Is there any blue cards? >> Uh, we don't have any blue cards for the next item, Mr. President.
>> Okay. Um, so we're going to call for um a close session, a call of an executive session to be closed. Um, we need a motion for that. >> I move to move into close session uh to discuss
uh superintendent job applicants. >> Just a point of order. You got to do it with citing the section of the It's on here on the >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. >> I don't have it. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. Just read that. >> Yeah. So I move to go to close executive uh close session to be held upon recess
of this meeting to review superintendent candidates per section 8F of the Michigan Open Meeting Act. >> I second. >> All right. Uh all in favor say I. >> No. This needs by point of order. This needs a two3 roll call. >> Trusty Bazzy.
>> Yes. Trusty De Rojo. >> Yes. >> Trusty Mos. Yes. >> Trusty Pelkov. Yes. >> Trusty So. >> Yes. >> Trusty Zaher. Yes. President Ji. >> Yes. All right, we go into a session into the close session >> and let those in the audience know that
we will return to an open session after >> so we will go into the close session and we will return after we u complete. Thanks everyone. All right, we're going to call the meeting back to session.
>> So, go ahead. >> Okay. So, I'll just take a moment, a couple minutes to explain again the process that we're undergoing. So, we went into close session to review uh the confidential applications of those who um submitted applications for
superintendency here in Dearbornne. Um in close session, your goal was >> Could you Could you introduce yourself for the record? >> I'm sorry. Certainly. John Si with the Michigan Leadership Institute. >> I appreciate that. So, um we reviewed
all the of the applicants, right? We shared the application materials and and reviewed every single person that applied for the position. You had 23 applications in all. Had the opportunity to ask questions, see clarification. It was informational with the goal being to
prepare to come out of close session and for each of you to indicate which of those candidates you would like to invite to interview for the superintendency. To maintain their confidentiality though, we have letter designations for each of the candidates which you've seen. So we'll go around
give each member of the board the opportunity to indicate which candidates they would like to interview by letter design designation initially. We'll accept a motion can be seconded. There could be further discussion where we'll be careful not to reveal the identity of the candidates. Once there's
a successful motion and you suess you have chosen those people that you would like to interview um at that point we will go ahead and name those individuals and give their current position for the public record. Are there any questions about that
whatsoever? Any clarification needed on that? >> No question from the board. I don't see any. So we'll go through the process. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um, do you want to do It doesn't really matter to me which uh how we
start. Maybe we start with Pat. >> Um, totally up. >> And then we just go this way. >> Uh, my choices are A, B,
C. D and E. >> D and >> E >> E. A B C D and E. >> That's correct. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we're just going to go around the >> Sure. >> Yeah. Go ahead, Mary.
>> I'm A, B, C, E, and G. >> A B C E G. Thank you. Um, you guys gave one short, right? >> Five. >> Huh? I just gave the ones that I wanted.
So, however we >> making sure I'm not >> So, just just to clarify, we can >> do however many you want. >> Yeah, you do have many, >> right? No minimum or maximum. >> Okay, great. Um, A B C D.
>> Say that again. A B C D. Mhm. Mhm. Um, F and G. >> I'm going to repeat that to make sure I got it. A, B, C, D, F, and G. >> Correct. >> Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Uh, you want to go or do you
want me to go? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Um, mine is in no particular order. C A D >> G was that was >> Sorry. C >> C >> A is an apple. >> Mhm. D is in dog.
B >> B. Okay. >> Yeah, I'll stick with the four. >> Okay. A, B, C, and D. Got you. Okay. Mine are uh B as in boy, C as in Charlie,
D as in David, F as in Frank, G as in George. >> Thank you. Mine are uh A, B, C, F G E,
>> A, B, C, F, G, and E. Okay. >> Okay. Um, candidates that I chose are A to interview A C B. >> That was B. >> Yeah, B like boy. Thank you.
>> Uh G, K, and F. >> And F. >> Yes. >> Okay. So, I'm going to tally these up. Okay, I'll I'll kind of repeat back to you and let you know how how many by
letter designation how many board members named that person by letter. So, um, two of the candidates received or seven of you named two of those candidates B and C. Um, six of you named candidate A,
five named candidate G, four named candidates D and F, three named E, and one named K. So, if we're looking to identify those that four or more of you
named, it was A, B, C, D, F, and G. Those are six, right? >> Oh, [ __ ] >> There were six. There were six that four or more of you named. >> Six. >> Yes. >> So, repeat that if you don't mind.
>> I was happy to. A, B, C, D, F, and G. >> How many did G have? >> G had five. >> And sorry, you counted D as five or sorry, four. D as in dog as f four because I have it on. I got 40. You get
a different number. >> Okay. So, I'm >> I have four. >> Okay. So, I miscounted. Okay. No problem. >> Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Uh I'd like to make a motion to um
uh approve for public interviews. First round of public interviews. Candidates A, B, C, D, F, and G. >> So move.
>> Is that F and G? >> Sorry, I was moving. So you'll second, Trusty Pelchkov. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> There's a question from John. You said >> I just want to make sure I got it. >> I'll sure. I'll I'll say it again just for clarity. I'd like to move for um public interview by us uh for the
position of superintendent candidates A as in apple, B as in boy, C as in Charlie, D as in Delta, F as in Frank, G as in George. >> Thank you. >> Okay. And Trusty Pov, you second it. >> I second it.
>> Okay. So, uh, >> I'll call for sorry. >> Any discussions by the board on any of the names or anything without really talking about the names on the letters? >> I don't see any. Oh, go ahead. Trust. >> Yes, if everyone can offer some type of
discussion. So, um, we technically have deliberated in public um, for the open meetings act. Um, I'll do a general one because I think um, it does fit the these are the six that I, um, wanted or selected. Um, so I can do a general
blanket of, you know, I'm really impressed with the background, um, experience uh leadership um and really fits the needs of, uh, the school district at this time. So, I think, um, these six candidates all have a lot to offer and especially to offer to us. And
so, um, I really, you know, happy with this >> and and I just want to say and then trust Z will speak. We had 23 candidates and thank you trustes for clarifying and we spent several hours going in details
on each one of them. um with the help of you know MLI and John and and and the team we were able to um without deliberating we were able to talk about um we have a binder which gives us all
the information um on the candidate but in saying that we had the information prior to coming to the board. So we all spend considerable amount of time looking at them and assessing them and so we were prepared but at the same time we wanted
some more information. There's some background information that was shared with us um on some of the candidates to help us make the right selection. So this um there was a lot of effort before the board and during the uh close
session. Uh trustees are you >> I'll yield to some No, it's okay. I just wanted to add, you know, I think we came into this with an intention of a national search trying to find the best candidate. Um, and I think that's that's what we got was national results. Um,
and I think um, you know, I appreciate the work that MLI did to get um, this job description out there to as many people as possible so we can get qualified candidates. And I think we um, we did a good job in that. So, thank you. >> Appreciate that. Thank you,
>> Trusty Mazip. Thank you. Uh I also um like my colleagues did a lot of research since we got the profiles of all of the applicants prior to this meeting and I divided all of the or did some kind of
scoring for myself uh into categories. for example, uh district relations, uh leadership attributes, instruction, curriculum, finances, staff personnel, and based on that scoring, I'm happy to say that at least, you know, five out of
the six applicants that we selected were in my top six as well. So, I'm I'm very happy with the result. >> Okay. >> Any any other trustee? Uh there >> Oh, who did who did that? probably like a bully or something to
>> um we uh as always in Dearbornne I think we experienced this when um we had the vacancies for the appointments. Uh we are very lucky. Um a lot of very highly qualified people
want this job and um just like back when we were appointing someone I think once again in this instance we have sort of an embarrassment of riches. We have a great community. I think a lot of people know that and a lot of people want uh to be the leader here. So I think we're
going to have I think the community will see that we have a lot of really strong candidates. Hopefully, it'll be a spirited process that we're in and everyone will get to know them. Um, but yes, uh, I think the community should also feel uh, secure. I can only speak for myself, but I think I speak for
everyone when I say we went through all of these applications um, pretty vigorously, and we just exited a uh, very informative session where we were able to ask some deeper questions of MLI and got a lot of them answered. So, even
though we went into close session for an hour and a half, every maybe more, everyone should know that um we we did a lot while we were in there and uh I'm very confident with the list that uh we have put forward and I'll be voting for it. >> Okay. Yeah. One one last comment from my
aunt is um there is this perception in the community that you know the the jobs are already given or that we might be favoring someone or another. Uh I could assure you I have
faith in our board um and the trustees that this will be a fair process and our goal is to pick the best candidate possible and we will not um as we did HFC it will be a fair process and we
will not allow anything to deter us from uh having it be a fair process because it at the end of the day those that are impacted are kids and we will not um we will be fair, we'll pick the right candidate. So, in saying that, if
there's no other questions, um we would do a roll call. >> So, this roll call is on the motion to approve the six candidates as described below. A B C D FG for public interviews for the position
of superintendent of Durborn Public Schools. A yes vote means that you would like to interview all these people. Trustee Bazzy, >> yes. >> Trusty Drosio, >> yes. Yes. Trusty Mos. >> Yes. >> Trusty Pelichoff. >> Yes. >> Trusty Subah. >> Yes. >> Trusty Zaher. Yes. President Jahi. >> Yes.
>> 70. >> All right. So I think um identifying the names. >> Yes. >> I'd be happy to do that for you. So in no particular order um Musa Ham who is currently the assistant superintendent
of human resources for Gross Point Public Schools. Tracy Reid, superintendent of Reynoldsburg City Schools in Reynoldsburg Ohio. Ali Hamka, who is the assistant superintendent of human resources for
Walt Lake Consolidated Schools. Batme Farage, who is your executive director of student achievement here in Dearborn Public Schools. Mike Iseli, the executive director of special populations, Dearborn Public Schools,
and Thomas Ahart, who's the former superintendent of the De Moine public schools in De Moine, Iowa. That is your field of candidates. >> All right. Thank you so much. And they could let the press post the names.
>> Just so you know then too, in terms of process, what we Sheil and I will be doing, we've got a little bit more business to take care of. >> Yeah. to prep for first round interviews. But soon as the meeting's over, we're going to grab a private space right here. We'll get on the phone. We'll be calling each of those
six individuals to let them know that they've been selected and to get them onto the interview schedule. Once that interview schedule is populated, we'll share that with your folks so that you can post it wherever you would like to. These will be public interviews and so you can get the word out and people will
know when they'll be taking place, what the order is and those who would like to be present will have that opportunity too. >> And if I could ask trustee Mazip to talk about what's the next steps based on I know he's been doing a great job working with you John and the team >> is
just maybe and I I didn't want to ple no it's okay to talk about the the next step um as John was talking about. >> Yeah. So, John already shared the suggested questions that we want to go
over and possibly pick those questions. Um, so we can ask those for our first interview um for first round interviews. The the the questions um there's 21 of
them and I had a a question on that. based on the time permitted for the candidates. Do we think that's a lot of questions do we think or are we how many how much are we how many are we choosing? >> Well, so if if I may um that's based on
experience that this is our typical protocol and I'm not there have been times boards have varied slightly from that but typically if if there's any variance it's because they become so enamored with some of the questions they want to overshoot the mark a little bit. So we've permitted boards to go I think
no higher than 24 but we find that in terms of the timing we permit up to 90 minutes for the interview. So that includes some opening remarks from the board president >> um an introductory question 20 additional questions and opportunity then for the candidate to ask questions
of the board at the end and make a final statement. And we're explicit with candidates when we communicate with them and tell them exactly what to expect so that they know um how to manage their time and then the burden is on them to make sure that they use their time
wisely. Um in the event that a candidate might be flirting with running out of time. um we'll communicate and have kind of a signal to where we we'll watch the time for you, but we can alert you so that at some point we can interject and let the candidate know there's this much
time left, this many questions left, and we may need to pick up the pace just a little bit. >> Go ahead, Trusty. Z, >> have you um just just to take one step back so everyone understands? >> Absolutely. our our our general the calendar we had kind of set for
ourselves and trusty Moses you can tell if we're still kind of on this >> wi-i which is >> to have two interviews per day next Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Correct. >> Correct. >> Okay. So that's the 14th, 15th, and 16th of next week to have two interviews per day starting at 6 PM and that would be
the six that we uh put forward um with the timing because um sometimes candidates uh run out of time, sometimes they like finish way before time and they think they >> So have you guys ever done anything
before where maybe we did this when we had the uh appointments. Do have you ever done anything before where you kind of have a timer on the screen, let's say, that they see the whole time? >> I I I will tell you that a couple of districts have done that. And I think that's beneficial. If if you could arrange for that, um that's going to
enable the candidate to better monitor their time and kind of put the onus on them so they'll know how many questions are being asked. They can kind of track it themselves. And I do think it would be advantageous for the candidates to be able to watch their time a little bit more closely and make sure they stay
within the 90. So >> yeah, and then we never have to remind them. It's in front of them the whole time. >> I I think that would be fantastic if you could do that. >> I' I'd like to see us do that. I don't know if we have to make >> I think it's a good idea, >> Trusty. >> I agree. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> And I know we can do it because we did
it for the >> uh appointments. They just can't just put it on the screen there. >> That would be great. >> It's the same thing they do for the three minutes. So um >> right >> Oh >> on the questions are are we good with the questions is a
>> well do we want to ask the 21 questions that were suggested or if you feel strongly about any question that you want to remove or add to the suggested questions. >> Well you have um >> I have more than >> I actually you have double that. You have you have 42 questions that we we
shared with you and the goal now is to narrow that down. So, we're not going to talk about the questions aloud. That's the reason we gave them to you ahead of time so you can kind of preview them and get an idea of what they were. Right now though, what I'd like to do is walk through one category at a time and then
you you can all talk about that just by number and anybody could start. Doesn't have to be a vote, but we'll just try to reach consensus. So, somebody wants to start, for example, in opening questions. If you've taken a look and you have a preference of which of those three you'd like to ask, you can start the dialogue by putting those out there.
We could see how others feel and the goal is to reach consensus on three within each category. >> So three within each category. >> Yes. >> Okay. Does everybody has a question in front of them? >> They're in tab in your binder. That big binder that I just gave you. If you go to tab four. >> Tab four.
>> You'll see them. >> Just a point of order. Joanne Harris is complaining once again that she doesn't have a copy of anything. >> She can have mine cuz I I printed the question. >> Oh, there we go. >> I was going to give her mine. You >> I printed and I circled. No, I'm I'm using my um soft copy.
>> There we go. Okay, >> it's near all the way near the end of the pack. >> Now, I I will say this for opening questions, we always go with number one. >> Okay. I've got that one, >> sir. So, really then of the remaining
five, you'll need to pick two of those. >> I liked one and three for opening questions. So, let's just start with the the so the introduction. Okay. Uh any comments? I
know Mary, what were you saying? Sorry. >> Question. >> Oh, no. I was going into the opening questions. The introductions don't have anything to discuss, do they? >> We need to choose three questions from each category. >> Yeah. Three from each category. >> The opening question is the first
section which has six questions. Any thoughts anybody wants to >> Yeah. And that's what I was talking about. I had one, three, and six. >> Three and six >> that I that I uh >> was interested in. >> Yeah, I'm okay with one, two, or three, and 1, three, and six, too. I like the
specificity of two and three, but two and three are kind of not that different from each other, >> right? There's a lot of them that there's overlap. >> So, I'm good with one, three, and six. Like trusty public, >> I'm good with one, three, and six. >> Could I I'll move that we're going to that we ask questions one, three, and six.
We don't necessarily take a formal vote, but No. >> Oh, you don't want to? No, >> we don't need to. >> Okay. >> But you're It sounds like you're suggesting that >> we go, but whatever. That's okay. >> I I am okay with one, three, and six as well. >> All right. So then, um,
>> it seemed like we got a consensus on that. So, >> let's move on to the next item, which is, >> uh, is it political awareness? >> No, district, >> sorry, district relations. >> District relations. It's just circular relations. >> I have. >> So any any suggestions? Go ahead. Uh
trust. >> My suggestions were 14 and six for district relations. >> One, four, and six. Any thoughts from anybody? >> Um I I'll double down on one and six. >> Yeah, I had one, two, and six.
>> I had one two as my other one as well. One two six. >> So we agree on one and six. It seemed like >> Yeah, I had I had question two as well, but >> it's not that much different than question four, but I had question two. >> Um Mary, would you be okay with the us
going with number two, one and six, one, two, and six? >> Yeah. Um >> it's kind of going into granular level providing an example. >> Yeah. The the reason I thought number
four was important was because it um it it's more specific. It it it it is detailed into some of I'm trying not to read. Thank you. I know. I can tell. >> I know. I know how to do this. I
appreciate it. But but it um it speaks to something that everybody has a question about when you if you read the question because we always talk about some of this where the
other one is kind of more um All right. I have a suggestion if it's okay with everybody because I I kind of agree. So I think this is not giving away anything. So would you be open or sorry would people be open to doing a question
that's like a mix of them that says >> don't read it. >> Yeah. >> That that blends two and four. >> Yeah. That asks the >> Okay. That asks the uh person to give the uh specificity in the first few
words of two but in the subject matter of four. Does that make sense? >> Um I can take a shot at that. Sure. >> Yeah. Because I think I understand what Trusty Pelchov is saying. trusty public and I understand what everyone else is saying about too. It's asking like a direct
>> example >> uh example. There's nothing wrong with saying that. It's like asking someone to give a direct example. >> Well, >> but but it's in a much it's much more general than for >> that was that was your point, right? >> Yeah. >> So maybe that's what I meant by blending. >> Okay. I I will take a shot at that.
>> They'll take a shot at it, but we have to be okay, you know, with what they come up with. Well, we have a meeting Monday so I mean >> it can be sent to us again. >> I I don't want us to go. >> You can send us a revamp. >> Sure. Well, I will I will tell you what I'll do after all of this. I'm I'm going
to put all of this together. I can send it to you and if it would be beneficial for you to get this prior to Monday in case there's a need for further discussion and then you could check out how I blended and if you're not thrilled with it. >> Yeah. Only only four questions that we're asking you that are not on this thing. >> Right. Right. >> Yeah. Like which so far is just that
one. >> Okay. >> All right. So then the next one which is um political awareness. So any suggestions >> one four and six >> you said one
>> I know >> I think they arranged these on here so that there's a pattern. It's like taking one of those tests where if you aid on these ones and >> I like four and six. Um, I had two four and six.
>> I had one four and six. >> Okay. So, >> I'd like to Oh, sorry. >> What? >> I I I just want to ask my colleagues to look at number three just I mean, do you think, you know, thinking about just,
you know, the world we live in? Is this a question that >> Yeah, but you know, we're going to have another opportunity. >> Okay. at some point and I would rather get the basic feel for these individuals and how they would operate and the broader
um picture >> then I'm okay with trusty DRO suggestion of one 4 and6 >> so that's wonderful >> are you good with that >> okay >> all right we we are good with that and then the next one is the lead uh leadership
>> the next one I definitely like number two >> I like one and Five. >> I'm okay with two. >> So, uh, >> yeah, >> Trusty Dumbrazio, one numbers did you say? >> I
>> He's number two, which I like to, and one, and five. >> Yeah, I'm okay with one, two, and five. >> One, two, and five. Um, I like one, two, and pipe as well. Do you guys agree? >> So, that's fine.
>> Let's move on to instructional and uh instruction and curriculum. >> So, here I really liked one and four. Oh sorry. >> Go ahead. >> Here I really liked one and four. >> One and four. >> I think they apply to us a lot. >> All right. Who? Who else?
>> I liked four as well. Um, but I also would like number six if possible. >> I agree with number six. >> Yeah, >> number six. Um, any thoughts from this side? >> I agree.
>> So, uh, would it be one, four, and six? >> Correct. >> All right, let's go with that. >> Okay, just do one, four, and six all the way. Is that what >> the pattern? >> They're good questions. Um
uh let's go to the next uh group in which is finance. >> I did one, two, and one, two, and six. >> One, two, and six. >> So I think we should ask number five.
>> Agreed. >> Pretty pertinent. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Uh I had one >> I think for six we already asked that question before. >> So 135 in the previous I I don't have I don't have
>> give six a loss this time. >> Can we defeat question six? >> So So let's let's take a step back. >> Trusty me. What did you say? >> One, two, and five. >> One, two, and five. Uh >> yeah, I'm good with that.
>> Anybody else? One, two, and five. All right. Uh I'm looking around. It seemed like we're okay with that. All right. So, let's go on to the next category, which is staff and uh personnel.
Any any suggestions? >> So, I like five and six. Other than that, I'm open to other ones. >> Five and six. Anybody else making a suggestion? Six I feel like is important. >> What was that? >> Six is important. >> Yep.
>> Um. >> Yeah. >> Let's do one then because that gives an overall. >> So, five and six. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. One, five, and six. >> I I I really like two. Uh uh. >> You said two. Number two.
>> Yeah. Well, >> I mean, two is one. Two. I'm okay with two. It's similar to one. >> Okay. So, let's recap. And I'm okay. I I read it a little more and it could apply to other things. So, >> I Yeah, you just want to make sure that
you touch upon the fact because the responsibility and role of a superintendent number one really >> is um >> actually, can you blend number one and can you try to blend number one and two somehow? They are both important, I think. >> Um, I'll give it a shot. Sure. >> Yeah. >> Blend one and two, but five and six, I
think. Okay. >> So, we're in agreement. Uh, blend one and two and um five and six. >> Yep. >> Is that good? Okay. So, this is going good. Let's go to the next item, which is uh
>> which is really that's it. >> There's no decision. No other decisions to be made regarding questions for now. >> Okay. >> Um we'll talk about second round questions at the meeting where you select finalists. So we'll do that first and then we'll have further dialogue about second round including second
round questions just so you know >> and then Mr. Si we are still on the idea of holding three interviews next week 14 15 16 >> and then selecting the finalist on the 18th. >> Yes s at 11 a.m.
>> Yes, correct. >> Okay. >> Yep. Any trusty basy? >> I also had a question about the the schedule. um we selected April Friday, April 24 for our finalist interviews and then there's a 10day gap between that and when we select the superintendent.
Is that typical? >> Um >> well there in this business I don't know that there is any typical. It really varies from board to board. A lot of it honestly just depends on um your calendar, your personal obligations and
responsibilities. If the question is, is it possible to move that up? Could we move it up if it would work for everyone? >> Move which one up? >> He's talking about May 4th where you make the selection of the superintendent. The point is that there's a a gap between
um the finalist interviews and May 4th. >> I mean, I'd be in favor of moving up April 24th a day or two because there's a a lot of events on that day. Is there a reason that we did it on the 24th and not? >> No, that's because we have the meet and greet on the 22nd 2. >> Oh, is that is that what it is? So can I
can I interject then on that one? This might help with that discussion. Um we recently did another search where uh necessities the mother of invention, right? So we were faced with the challenge of them selecting at a a
schedule that accommodated two finalists but then we had to accommodate three. So to make a long story short, um rather than separate these out different days for different finalists, we put them all together. So what we really could do if you wanted
to was on the 22nd and 23rd, we could combine and the benefit of that is that so we'd have whether it's two or three finalists, we could make it work, but you'd have them in the district at the same time. All of these things would be happening concurrently where it really works out well. I'll talk about the
stakeholder groups. Remember that is inviting various stakeholder groups to come in, submit questions, hear responses. The way it currently stands is they'd have to do it twice for each candidate, each candidate, separate days, which is a bit of a burden, right? So, if we were to combine that to where
uh I'll use your staff members as an example. So they would come in, we would have one of the candidates come in for a period of time and then while those staff members are still present, we would have the other candidate also come in and they could ask questions. Then we would dismiss that group. We'd bring
another group in. Same thing, we'd have both candidates on site. One would come in for the first half, the other would come in for the second half. Then your folks, your stakeholders only have to come in once for those activities. So it could be advantageous. So what we could do is restructure that. So on the 22nd
what we would likely do and Sheila help me if I'm not getting this correct but we could do in the morning the district tours for example in the afternoon we could do the finalist question and answer sessions with stakeholders on the 23rd we could have the meet and greet
prior to interviews and then you can go into second round interviews on Thursday the 24th at the 23rd rather. >> Okay. So that's assume so this this is assuming hypothetically there's let's say two finalists. Well, we made it work uh with three finalists doing it that way. >> Okay. But let's say there's two. So,
they would both be here both. You're assuming you're you're assuming all the finalists, whether it's two or three, would be here for both of those days. Correct. And then interview on the end of the second day. >> That's correct. Yeah. >> I I think the the question on um could we move it
>> earlier on on the selection? >> The the selection. Um I think at the end of the day and and uh me trustee Basy might have talked is at the end of the day it's the board's decision if we need to do a special meeting to to to make it
earlier it's within our discretion based on the availability. So it's that date is not so if we finish the finalist interview and we decide that we want to do it sooner I don't think there's anything that would restrict us from doing that. >> Yeah. I don't think we have to decide
that now either. >> Yeah. So that's why I said I don't think it's it needs to be decided, but I think I'm okay. I I'm actually in agreement of doing it sooner, but I think it's our discretion based on how we see things at that time. >> Sure. But I'm talking about the Yes, I
agree. But um but what I was talking about so that we don't so that I'm not confused is the finalist interviews of when he's talking about they're going to be here for the I was talking about moving that from the 24th to the 23rd cuz >> Well, wait a minute. I I can't do the 22nd. >> Yeah.
>> Do this 22nd. >> 23rd. 23rd. >> Well, he's talking about 22nd and 23rd now. >> So, I'll I'll clarify. On the 22nd, you wouldn't be involved. This 22nd would involve the candidates and your stakeholders. You wouldn't be involved. Um on the 23rd, we're talking about
moving the the finalist interviews to that day. >> Oh. To that day instead of >> instead of that Friday, >> just because there's an access dinner that night, it's like uh end of the Friday. >> Yeah. And Sheila just made a suggestion which I think you know we'll toss it out there. You've already we already have Friday the 24th booked, right? That's
scheduled. >> If we were to move the other activities up in the way we just described to the 22nd and 23rd with the final interviews being the last step on the 23rd, if you wanted to keep that 24th date and use that as the night that you make the
decision, that does not give you a lot of time to deliberate in between. >> On the 24th, there's an event. >> Okay. A a lot of us are going to be >> So, we're looking to avoid the 24th if we can. I got you. Okay. >> I guess I'm hoping to to schedule it and decide on it tonight because otherwise >> it's ambiguous.
>> Can we do the Saturday? >> You mean the final deliberation? >> Mhm. >> The final selection. >> I mean, I'm of I'm of the opinion that if we're interviewing people on the 22nd and the 23rd and the community is going to watch that and they might want to give us feedback, I
don't think we should be picking someone within 48 hours. That's just my my opinion. >> So, Trusty Bazzy, what's your suggestion? I mean, >> that Monday or Tuesday, >> the >> 27th or 28th? >> The 28th would be good. >> Is that the 8th? >> Oh, is it? >> We have the asset dinner. Any of us who
we're in April >> on the 27th? >> No, I think it's the 24th. >> No, no, it's the 27th. So, >> you guys are saying two different things. Access or asset. >> Asset. I'm not doing access. I'm saying asset. I I HFC.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got you. All right. So >> So the 28th would be >> would be um what would be would be the 29th uh teacher >> would be the 28th. The 29th we have teacher of the year >> and the 30th we have superintendent honors night. >> Right. Okay. So teacher in case people
want the 29th the teacher of the year thing ends at 6 p.m. according to our schedule. >> Yes. >> So I mean the 29th is an option. It's not an evening event. >> I'd be okay with the 29th. I just I just want to give to me me personally I'm okay with doing it like five six days
after that's fine. I just we're interviewing people on the on the 23rd and we want to get as much feedback. I don't know. So I'm okay with the 28th but 29th is a better whatever. >> So So what's the recommended? What's everyone's available on is it the 20 uh >> plus if we're all going to the teacher
of the year thing you know we just go there and then we come here instead of two days >> on the 29th. So, when we're asking about feedback, are we I'm assuming we're going to have a forum. People are going to fill this out. What's a typical feedback time that you guys go with? >> Um
people are going to have the opportunity to watch this um watch a recording of the of the interviews and respond uh and give feedback to those, right? So, you want enough time then and you want to be clear with people what that is. Um, if you want to have enough time to have
those out there for people who weren't present, but still to watch and give feedback, you would want to have at least if you're if we're now if if we were to move the finalist interviews to the 23rd, Thursday the 23rd, I I would say if you are now meeting uh
the following week sometime like the 29th, that would be adequate time for people to give feedback and more importantly >> for you to consider their feedback. That's the most important part, right? 29th, >> but it should give enough time for that if if you moved it up to that.
>> Does Does the 29th work for everyone, >> I guess. Yeah, we can run from the awards. >> Let's make it 6:30. So, we have a buffer. >> Yes. Yeah. 6. Oh, >> I'm sorry. Um, if you do the 29th, the teacher of the
year, our crews, our equipment is there. >> It would take us great. >> It would take us at least, we would need at least two hours. >> Okay, forget >> to get everything back here set up >> and then ready to roll. >> Okay,
>> so um so that that's a consideration. I mean there I we could explore some other >> No, we we understand we'll find another date. >> The first? >> No, no, no. >> The the 29th is we have something. >> That's what he's talking about. The >> No, no. I I
>> 28th. You said she had some. >> No, 28th is good for me. >> Okay. I mean, I would prefer May 1st, but whatever. I I just like >> 28th is fine. >> Okay. So, I have to interject. Neither of us is available on the 28th. >> Okay. May 1st is May 1st working.
>> May 1st and 2nd is the MASB conference. And I know at least two of us are going. >> Okay. And we're >> May 4th. >> Well, maybe we maybe we just stick with May 4th, right? That's in the books. And >> yeah, Trusty Bazzy, we're leaving. Maybe that was why we chose
>> Well, I go Well, I guess that's why I guess so. >> Seriously, that might have been the reason as we looked at this. >> We might have done this already. >> All right. So, so let's stick with the fourth and if anything changes, it's it's the board's discretion, >> right? We could revisit it if we needed
to. So, can I go back then and ask how are you comfortable if we modify this so that again we use the 22nd and 23rd as the dates where we do the Q&As's, district tours, meet and greet, and then the night of the 23rd would be finalist
interviews. >> Um, just hypothetically though, let's say we um >> Did you say no? >> Right. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. There's that. >> Let's let's say let's say hypothetically like how would you deal with that though
if there was three people? Would you interview one of them on the 22nd? >> Um >> but I thought somebody said they can't do that. I I >> what we did >> what we did in in the other instance recently >> was um we shortened the interviews slightly. >> Okay.
>> Normally they're 80 minutes long. I think we we shrank them down. Was it 75 70 minutes? >> So you did three in one night. We >> were >> okay. So it that's it can be a little bit extensive but when you think about
the difference between three interviews at 70 minutes each versus two interviews at 90 minutes each. >> Sure. >> It's longer but not terribly longer. So we think you could manage it if you needed to. In the other example we gave it seemed to work pretty well. >> Okay.
>> So what time would they be finished the the last candidate? Um, so if we were to start at what what time? >> 6 o'clock. >> 6 o'clock. >> Um, at 70 minutes each. Who's good at math? Better than me.
>> Not by 9:00. >> No, I know more than three candidates. >> 230 minutes including two 10-minute breaks. >> Oh, so 9:30. >> 9:30. 9:40. >> Yeah. >> I mean, it's already 9:00 now. We've been here since 6. >> Well, exactly. I mean, honestly, I think it's doable. So 10:00 is probably the to
set the expected possibility. >> I mean, I'd rather come here for one night than two nights, >> right? >> Even if we have three candidates. So, >> okay. So, if we're okay with that doing the just to move things along, are we okay with the 23rd and having a long night, three interviews? >> If we have three, if we have two, it'll
be >> sure. >> Well, I'm going based on the the >> the um the high end, worst case scenario. So, are we okay with that? >> I'm okay. >> All right. So, um I think uh that's the plan. >> Okay. Wonderful. >> May 23rd, three interviews
>> and May 4th. >> The fourth will we will deliberate uh sorry. Yeah. >> Make your decision. >> Make a decision. >> Okay. >> All right. >> Then the only other thing to add, I know it's late. I'll just quickly tell you so you know exactly what to expect next week. So, we will be putting the interview questions together. We'll have
six sets of interview questions, one for each of the candidates. They'll all look the same except the name of the candidate will be different in each. Obviously, there's going to be a lot of space between questions to give you a lot of room to write notes. We'll get them to you in a binder. So, when you come here Tuesday for the interviews,
we'll have that. You don't have to copy anything, prepare anything. We will have that here for you. Um, and then you'll just bring that back each night and continue to add to it with each of the candidates. I will get that to you in advance so you can preview it. And I will, what I typically do, tell me if
you have an objection. um your responsib for example, one of the categories is finance. You don't have to be a finance wiz to ask the finance questions. It's literally just asking the questions that are in front of you, right? So if you're okay with it, we'll just kind of randomly assign each of you a category and you'll ask the three questions in
that category and we'll just go around the table. That okay? >> Yeah, >> I think that's fine. >> Okay. >> All right. Um any other thing, >> trustees? >> I have two separate points. Sorry. going back to this time thing because I think math was not mathing um we would be done
at 10 o'clock. Um and just so everybody knows if we start at six it take it'll take us four full hours to do this. >> Yeah. >> Um if we have >> if we have three uh if we need to push if we decide to push to Friday we would >> go back that we already had that planned
maybe um just to keep in mind. The second one was um the combination of questions going back to that earlier. I think there were two sets of questions we asked to combine. Yes. The first set I just don't see how we can combine them without you know keep with by and keep
the integrity or the the intent of the question. Um can you if you in your attempt to combine both sets can you also provide us the original questions as an option for us to accept 23 questions instead of 21 questions? >> Yes. >> Thank you.
>> Absolutely. Yeah. And and frankly, I mean, if I make an attempt to to blend the questions and it looks like they're not blending terribly well, >> right, >> I'll just include both in. As I said, we in the past, the goal is always 21 questions. We've gone as high as 24, but as long as the candidates know in
advance, they'll manage it. It'll it'll be fine. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> I appreciate that. >> Any other comments? >> Seeing none, I think we're all set and no other business, meeting adjourned.