Heat. Hey, heat. Hey, heat. Good evening everyone and welcome to the Derbone Public School regular board meeting. It's Monday, July 27th and we call the meeting to order. It's 702. Roll call, please.
>> Trusty Bezi >> here. >> Trusty Drosio is not here. Trusty Moz >> here. >> Trusty Pelichkov >> here. >> Trusty Sub >> here. >> Trusty Zaher here. President Al Ji >> here. >> Before we start, trustees are um I would
like to um ask to do a prayer for uh trustee uh Drazio is not here today and his granddaughter is really sick. So, if we could take uh if we could do a moment of prayer for her recovery. >> Thank you. Next item, please.
>> Next item is a pledge of allegiance. Dearborn public schools cabinet members will lead the pledge of allegiance. They look so excited. >> Like we run out of students to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Great job. certificates for them.
>> Pictures, certificates. Yeah. >> Next item. >> Next item is a superintendent update. >> Okay. Excellent. Uh welcome everybody. Uh thank you very much. Uh historic day for me, my first board meeting. Um so the very first agenda item is we have no
retirements this month. So that's a wonderful thing. Uh people are excited to be in the Dearborn public school system. Uh now with that said, I would like to just open up with a few words. Um, good evening, President Aljahi, members of the board of education, colleagues, students, families, and
members of our Dearbornne Public Schools community. It is truly an honor to stand before you this evening as superintendent of Dearborn Public Schools. Over the past 20 years, I've had the privilege of serving this district in a variety of roles from teacher to administrator to executive
director and now superintendent. Those experiences have allowed me to witness firsthand the incredible dedication of our employees, the resilience and potential of our students, and the unwavering support of our families and community.
To now serve as superintendent is both the greatest honor of my professional career and a responsibility that I do not take lightly. During my first month, I have intentionally focused on listening before leading. I have spent time
meeting with students, employees, families, community members, and our board of education. Not simply to hear different perspectives, but to better understand what makes Dearborn public schools exceptional and where we have opportunities to become even stronger.
One thing has become clear, this community believes in its public school system. People care deeply about our students, our employees, and the future of the district. That belief is inspiring and it reminds us that our responsibility is not simply to preserve
excellence, but to continue to build on it. As we move forward together, my commitment is to lead with integrity, transparency, collaboration, and accountability. I want to continue building strong relationships, supporting our employees,
and ensuring that every decision we make is grounded with one simple question. How does this improve opportunities and outcomes for our students? With that, I'd like to provide you all with a brief update on my first 27 days as superintendent.
As I mentioned with you previously, over the past month, I've had the opportunity to meet with students, employees, administrators, family, and community partners, and district leaders throughout our organization. Those conversations have been invaluable. They have reinforced our
many strengths while helping identify opportunities to improve how we support our students and serve our students. I sincerely appreciate everyone who has taken the time to share their ideas, experiences, and perspectives. Those conversations will continue because I
believe listening is an essential part of leadership. One of our first priorities has been evaluating our organizational structure to ensure it best supports teaching and learning across the district. As part of that work, we transitioned away from the
feeder track model and are aligned our schools with two deputy superintendent. Miss Lamese Swore will oversee our elementary schools while Mrs. Deanna Shaheen will oversee our secondary schools. This structure strengthens collaboration, creates greater
instructional coherence, reduces unnecessary silos, and provides more consistent support to every school across our district. We also have been begun redesigning our cabinet structure to better align our work across the departments. Our
exception is simple. Departments should work collaboratively, communicate openly, use data to inform decision-making, and remain focused on continuous improvement. When we work together toward common goals, we are better positioned to support our schools, our employees, and ultimately
our students. During the past month, we have successfully interviewed for and filled several important positions. At the same time, we have carefully evaluated organizational needs across the district by redesigning some positions and
consolidating positions where appropriate. These decisions are intended to improve efficiency while continuing to provide high quality support to our schools. While we have accomplished a great deal during the first few weeks, this is only
the beginning. We have an outstanding district with exceptional students, dedicated employees, supportive families, and a community that believes in public education. I'm excited about what lies ahead because I know what we can accomplish when we work together with a shared
purpose. As we move forward, I want our work to be guided by a simple belief. Students first is more than a slogan. It is the standard by which we will measure every decision we make. Every initiative we pursue, every
resource we invest, and every conversation we should help create greater opportunities for our students to learn, grow, and succeed. I look forward to continuing this work alongside our board of education, our employees, our families, and our
community as we build upon the proud tradition and excellence that defines Airborne Public Schools. Okay. Thank you. Uh, now I'm going to transition over to our summer Discovery Works program, which is our robust summer program that we offer uh to all of our
K8 students here in the district. Could >> Could I >> Oh, yeah, of course. >> say something. >> I do want to say, you know, with regard to the 27 days that you mentioned, I do appreciate the collaboration that you
have uh provided us and I am excited to to work with you. Uh the collaboration has been amazing and I look forward to doing more of that. >> Thank you, President Aljah. That means a lot. And um I guess I'd be remissed if I didn't mention the the amazing team. You
know, we're a little short staffed right now in central office uh due to some of the retirements. I know some of the positions are going to hopefully be filled tonight. Uh but how the entire cabinet has stepped up has been absolutely inspiring to me. Uh truly
makes you want to work harder. So, for those of you sitting here today, I notice what you're doing. I see the hard work each and every single day. And thank you so much from the bottom of our hearts. We appreciate it. Now, summer discovery. Okay. Uh this year, our summer discovery works program
began on June 29th and it'll run until July 31st. Uh this summer initiative is designed to ensure our students return in the fall ready to excel by using a robust mix of academic power and vibrant enrichment. We currently have 3,676
students enrolled in 19 sites across the district. This program is free for families and is funded by the United Way for Southeastern Michigan and the Balmer Group. Free breakfast and lunch is available to all our students. Uh to
ensure rigorous and continuous learning, incoming kindergarteners are following Wayne County Rea's lit lab curriculum and all incoming first and eighth graders are following the Lvia rise curriculum for math and English language arts. Additionally, the pro additionally
the program includes hands-on STEM and innovative activities, life skills, field trips, SF cooking demonstrations, and staying active with hype coaches. Uh, special thank you to Miss Chris Mezerol who is coordinating and leading the program. Now, I'm pretty sure a lot
of you are sick of probably hearing me speak, so we're going to turn it over uh to the video and watch a real cool video on our summer program this year. Come on. Hey. Hey. Hey,
come on. I got a I got a I got a I got a Hey, I don't want to touch you. Don't show me.
Hey, hey, hey. All right. outstanding job to our entire staff and school community for running such a a wonderful program in the summer. Now, I'll be remissed if we didn't talk about soccer in July of
2026. Um, today we have some special guests with us that we would love to honor that come from the Detroit City Football Club. Uh tonight we would like to congratulate our Dearborn public school students and recent graduates who are on
the DCFC team that won the 2026 US Youth Soccer National President's Cup Championship. It's a big deal. Uh the Detroit City Football Club is a Metro Detroit team. Uh this year their U19
elite team had many students from all of our high schools play on the team. uh soccer Nasser who is the social responsibility technician over at Salina and team members will introduce the players along with the DCFC coach. So if you guys would um approach the podium
please Did the boys want to come up here with you or you going to introduce them one at a time? It's up to you. Yeah. I'll start and hello to everyone. Um, I'll start off by saying that we did start off in
Michigan playing in Sagena where we started off with a loss in the tournament and ended it off with a win. Uh, and after that we went to Indiana for regionals where we swept everyone and didn't lose a game. Won the regional
championship and then after that went to Kansas. Uh, we played hard. Uh, the group of guys that I wish I could play more with, but they being our last ride. I think we finished it off with the win. So, uh, can't can't be more happy. We'll
start off with Ali Bman. Uh, he was a recent graduate from Ford. Um after that we'll go Harisad. Uh he went to Fortson High School uh class of 2025. Uh as well as Alias Ford High School, class of 2025,
class of 2026. And measel Ford High School. Uh the rest should be showing up, but everybody got stuff to do. So I want to thank you guys for having us here. Uh it's uh it's pretty big to be here. So very thankful for the
opportunity. And then >> is that all the players? >> And then we would ask if we could take a photo. >> We'll have a few players. >> Yeah, >> for sure. Uh then we would ask if we could take a photo with all of you guys. >> Yeah. >> Uh we we would we would absolutely love >> everybody. >> Yeah, >> for sure. Do you want to wait until they
get here or >> No, no, no. There's >> Oh, okay. Okay. >> Some of the players that you had >> Oh, that's okay. We love everybody in course. >> Yeah. Yeah. that >> for sure. We have uh Quinn from Gab Gabriel Rashard, uh JJ from Gabriel
Rashard, uh Brad from Alen Park, Cababrini, uh Manny from Northville. I >> think that's it. >> So, how do you guys all come together? Are these tryyouts? Do you just walk in one day and say, "Hey, I want to try out for this football team." Or
>> So, one of our uh assistant coaches, uh his name is Asa Shaj. He graduated from uh Fortson High School, class of 2024, and he joined BCFC uh not not that far back, about a year ago, and he was like, "You know what? Why don't we make one
more run?" Um I have the people and I have everything. I just need the players. So, he called uh the people he knows from Dearborn, which would be our crew, and we got to meet up with uh Quinn, JJ, and all the boys, and we we bonded right away.
Great. Well, congratulations on your success. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. Of course. >> I believe they'd like to take a picture. I don't know. Okay, congratulations again. Great job. Thank you guys for also allowing us to share this moment with you. Uh and
finally, uh for my updates, um at our last January 20 June 22nd board meeting, the board voted to approve adding the school improvement bond proposition to the November 3rd election ballot. Uh Miss Katie Hedrickk, our interim communications director, will give us an
update on the bond. Hello. Good evening, board president, trustees. Uh we are we started theformational campaign. As you know, we'd planned to have a press conference a couple weeks ago, but the weather did not cooperate and we didn't want to bring people out
in toxic air. So, we've moved that back now to next week. We opted to reschedu after the August election because people were getting confused about when it was going to be on the ballot. and everyone who's cares about elections right now is looking at the primary. So, that'll be
next week. We're going to have it in one of our schools. It's not a public event, so we won't discuss that too much. Uh, but we want to show off some of the infrastructure needs in our building. There are parts of our building people never see, like we have two boilers that are more than 50 years old and a number
of them that are 30 to 40 years old. So, we want to show off some of that. Uh our consultants are also working together uh to come up with individualized information for each school so we can put that on each school's website and on the district website so people have all
of that information. And of course the usual work's going on to create the postcards and the graphics and all those kinds of things that we will also be putting out. I'm betting some of you have questions for me. >> Trusty call.
>> Yes. One thing that um I think we will hear as information comes up on these websites is how can they contact us if they have a concern or something they want us to consider? Yes.
>> Um in the design phase and how can we make sure that they have an opportunity to still weigh in >> um even if it's just so that we know what the community is feeling. Yes, there has been discussion of creating a dedicated um email account. We haven't
quite got that far yet, but that is on our our to-do list as well. >> Very good. >> I I would ask and I think it was brought up during one of our meetings is the frequently asked questions. >> Yes. >> Um I think there's uh common questions across, you know, whether it's the
square footage and and so on that we need to be able to answer those questions proactively. >> Okay. And uh um I did hear that we're going to do that. But that that is a good thing to be able and if you have things you would like to see added to the frequently asked questions, please
reach out to me. I know I have three or four to work on with our uh with plant marine real point to get some more details. >> Thank you. Trust you. >> You kind of piggybacking on that. I know that we had talked about um our communication strategy like on social media and stuff some of those FAQs
putting >> we talked about putting videos together where we answer one or two questions in a series. >> Yes. >> So that we're proactive in that way too. That's still part of the plan. Correct. >> That's still part of the plan. Yes. >> Going easy on me tonight. >> Yeah. Uh I just want to say one final thing. Miss Hetrick's done a phenomenal
job uh with communication. She's only 27 days to or maybe a little bit longer than that, but really 27 days too and she's picked up very fast and it's really an encyclopedia for our bond. So, we appreciate that. Great. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> And thank you for so much for um scheduling those meetings for the board
to keep us updated. Those are very effective and and helpful to all of us because we're also uh we want to we have a lot of questions too. you have a lot of questions too and a lot of good insight and I know you're getting questions from the community so it helps us to understand what people want to know. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you. I'm also >> next item. >> Next item is recognition and acknowledgements starting with commendations. >> Good evening ladies and gentlemen from the board. uh superintendent of sailing. I'll be reading the commendations
tonight. And first up, uh accommodations to the following staff for the Discover Works program. Christina Messerol, Maddie Casada, and Ma Harp all have worked tirelessly with rostering, logistics, and program coordination this
summer. Sue Brderick, Denise Zilch, and Katherine Aada from computer services. They have all helped uh schedule students and staff to make the necessary changes to keep up with the demand with the rising enrollment. Next up, we have Chris Kennerburgg, Haidider El Shabbani,
Wasim Hammude, Norm Cross, Shane Robertson, Cheryl Maturn, and Jackie Mcmanis along with Sage Belos and Charles Stevenson and Neimmer Zar and Sarah Sed from the assessment department. They all helped to facilitate the curriculum materials and
resources that were essential to uh success for the summer uh discovery works program. And last in this category but not least, Bob Addie, who assisted with overseeing all the above like that. There is so much more that this person wrote about Bob Addie, but um we don't
have a lot of time today. >> I was wondering why he was so eager to read these today. Now we know. >> Guilty. uh with the help of all the staff that were involved uh our uh program was able to be successful and we provided summer
learning for students this summer. We also have accommodations to the early child care supervisor Ida Talab and parent leaison Nadia Barry whose program achieved demonstrating quality which is the highest quality level during a
recent on-site observation. The program offers kids club before and after school child care, paid developmental preschool, and free GSRP preschool. Their hard work and dedication uh have provided care and education to
the children and families they serve. We also have commendations to Nicole Beckham from HR. She's the HR compliance manager for renewing the human resources specialist certification under the Michigan School of Business Voluntary Certification Program. The
district congratulates Nicole on her commitment to professional development through 2031. Other accommodations go to Lisa Book, transportation supervisor for renewing the certified transportation director certification under Michigan School of
Business voluntary certification program. The district congratulates Lisa on her commitment to professional development through the year 2031. from high school. Accommodations go to Hiba Gassura of Fortson High School. She
has been accepted as a member of the Michigan Department of Education Student Advisory Council for the 2026 2027 school year. In elementary, accommodations to the summer school secretary, Nura Ahmed, and the staff of Salina Elementary for their dedication
to Dearborn schools. When the schools were closed due to the bad air quality on Friday, July 17th, she and others volunteered to go to Salina Elementary to make sure that kids did not arrive during the closure. Additionally, congratulations to Nura on completing
her teaching degree. After 26 years as a secretary, she will continue her hard work and dedication as a kindergarten teacher this fall. Finally, commendations to the Lindberg Elementary fifth grader, Veta Jaffa, on
winning second place at the state level for the Smoky Bear and Woodsy Owl Po uh youth poster contest. Thank you to the Dearborn Garden Club for sponsoring this event. And those are our accommodations today. >> Thank you.
>> Thank you very much, B. >> Next item is acknowledgement of donations for a minute. We have two donations today that we'd like to acknowledge. The first and inind donation was made from the catalyst leadership circle
fellowship at the University of Michigan to study the ecological sound and climate wall project at Salina. The project aims to improve environmental health outcomes, reduce noise pollution, mitigate storm water to reduce flooding
and strengthen the community resilience. This work is funded by the Michigan Department of Education, Great Lakes, and Energy, Eagle, and administered through the University of Michigan Center for Empowering Communities as part of Eagle's Catalyst Community
Program. A second donation is a donation in the amount of $1,000, which was made to the class of music teacher Mr. Ephraim Carris at HG Elementary to be used for the music program during the 2026 2027 school year. Those are our
donations for tonight. >> Thank you everyone. Thanks. >> Next item is approval of minutes. Approval of minutes of the following Dearborn Board of Education meeting policy committee meeting June 22nd, 2026, board report 26-01.
Regular P12 meeting June 22nd, 2026. Board report 26-02. I'm looking for someone to make any necessary corrections and move approval of these minutes. I'll move it. >> All right. Second.
>> I'll support. >> Okay. So, we have a motion to support. Any correction to the minute or changes? >> I hear none. Uh hearing none. Is there any objection to attach any unanimous roll call vote to the motion?
Seeing none, uh unanimous roll call is attached. The motion carries and the minutes are approved. >> Next item is union leadership commentary. Um, it doesn't look like we have any union representatives here tonight. >> Is that correct? >> That is correct. >> Okay.
Next item is special reports. Oh, sorry. No special reports. Next item is citizen participation. We do not have any blue cards today. >> No. >> Okay. Next item is action items. Are there any agenda items on this agenda? Which board members or the interim or
sorry the superintendent? Are there any action items? any agenda items on this agenda which board members or the superintendent wish to discuss and vote on separately. If there are, we'll exclude these from the motion below. So, I'm looking for somebody to make a motion to approve all of the action items on this agenda with the
exception of any items that with the exception of uh any items anybody would like to remove. So, >> just keep in mind there's addendums to the board action items. Pointing that out. Go ahead, trustes. >> So, move that action items numbered. I'm
looking for someone to move that action items numbered one through 24 be approved as recommended in this agenda unless there's any exceptions. >> So move. >> Okay. Need a support or a second.
>> Trusty support it. Um any discussion any debate discussion? Seeing none then roll call. Uh, Trusty Bezi, >> yes. >> Trusty Mozb, >> yes.
>> Trusty Pelichoff, >> yes. >> Trusty Sub, >> yes. >> Trusty Zaher, yes. President Jahi, >> yes. Uh, I know we want to call in the >> Oh, that that's a congratulation to some of our special guests here. Um, I'm proud to announce Oh. >> Oh, I need to read them, I think.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Let me let me read them first and then >> Is there um >> It's your first >> That's going to be my folly, right? You know how they have those? >> I set you up, so don't worry about it. Good. >> Okay. Uh, we have 24 agenda items that we passed. Number one, approval of
warrants. Number two, approval of an award for Zoom renewal. Number three, approval of an award for curriculum associates. Number four, approval of financial institute designations. Number five, approval of change order for Comp Health Medical Staffing. Number six, approval of change order of deaf and
hearing impaired services. Number seven, approval of change order for RKA Petroleum. Number eight, approval of change order for Clark Construction. Number nine, approval of award to Current Trucking LLC. Numbers 10 through 13, approval of human resources
personnel items for P12. Number 14, approval of a monthly statement. Number 16, approval of policy update. Sorry, number 15, approval of policy update. Number 16, approval of donations. Uh I don't have a summary for number 17
through 24. So I'll say um number 17 approval of executive director of business services and operations. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Number 18, approval of appointment of director of curriculum
and instruction. Is that correct? >> Correct. >> Secondary. Sorry. Approval of curriculum and instruction to secondary. Number 19. Approval of the appointment of director of curriculum and instruction elementary. Number 20. Approval of the appointment
of the principal of Stout Middle School. Number 21. Appro approvement appro approval of the appointment of the principal of McDonald Elementary School. Number 22. Approval of the appointment of the principal of Maples Elementary School. Number 23.
approval of of an extension of exempt administrators and number 24, approval of the extension of non-classified non-instructional staff and exempt administrative secretaries at P12. >> Okay, >> those are all the agenda items we approve.
>> Uh thank thank you very much. Uh at this time, what I would like to do is introduce some of our new administrators to the community. Uh I will just go in order based on the board agenda and the first person I'd like to call up is our new director of curriculum and
instruction and secondary. Uh Mr. Aaron Shin. Uh just so the community knows, this is a position that actually we re we reclassified one of our director roles or supervisor roles we had here in central office uh to create a director
of secondary curriculum uh with some of our vision and definitely trying to um to revitalize our secondary education uh as well as our pathways. Uh we felt that this would would meet the needs of our uh of our plan. Mr.
Hi, >> good evening. Thank you for having me. I'm really excited. Uh my wife and children on short notice couldn't be here, but uh they're going to be watching uh this recording and if not live. Um so just blessed to have this opportunity to be here and really looking forward to it. Um heard a lot
about Dearborn Schools last two years. Uh worked with Mike previously at some PD um and his passion and excitement. Uh part of the reason that I wanted to be here along with the other administrators. So just very excited and uh start Monday morning. I heard 7:30 so I don't have keys yet so I'll be here a
little after that but uh I'm really blessed to have this opportunity so thank you for supporting me in this endeavor >> welcome uh next on the list our director of curriculum and instruction in elementary Dr. Finny. >> Good evening everyone.
>> Good evening. >> I would like to say first of all, thank you all for this wonderful opportunity to serve the students and staff of Dearborn Public Schools. I am coming to you from Dearbornne Heights D7 as the former curriculum and instruction
director there. and I'm really looking forward to working with you all to continue to progress the district forward. So once again, thank you for this opportunity. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Welcome. >> Okay. Um our brand new principal at Stout Middle School, Mr. Proctor, could
not be here tonight. Um he is on a trip with his family, but hopefully we'll get him here in our next August meeting. Um next we have our new McDonald Elementary principal, uh Miss Hanan Ridda. Okay, >> good evening everyone. >> Good evening. Evening.
>> Uh, first I would like to extend my sincere gratitude to the Dearborn Board of Education and Superintendent Esale um and the leadership team for this incredible opportunity and more importantly for the trust that you have placed in me to lead McDonald Elementary. It is a responsibility I do
not take lightly and I am truly honored. I would also like to thank my family, especially my husband and our children over the past month. They've been incredibly supportive as I've gone through this process. They've listened to my ideas, celebrated the highs and the lows. Um, they calmed my nerves, and
encouraged me every step of the way. I could not be standing here today without their love and unwavering support. I'm excited to join the McDonald's community and I look forward to working alongside its dedicated staff and partnering with the families and most importantly getting to know the amazing students who
walk through those doors each day. I know there's important work ahead of us, but I also know that when educators and families and students work together with a shared purpose, incredible things can happen together. I'm confident we will continue to build a culture of high student
achievement, strong relationships, and meaningful partnerships with our families. This opportunity is especially meaningful to me because Dearbornne is more than a district where I work. It's a district that shaped my life. Many years ago, I came to Dearbornne as a refugee and an eighth grade newcomer
student. I faced many of the same uncertainties that so many of our students experience today. But I was fortunate to have educators who believed in me and who fully encouraged me and challenged me and opened doors I never imagined possible. Today, standing here
as a principal in the very district that once welcomed me as a newcomer is both humbling and deeply personal. I am a product of Dearbone Public Schools. I believe in this district because I have lived its mission and I know firsthand the difference that caring educators can
make in a child's life. And I'm honored to have the opportunity to give back to the community that gave so much to me. Thank you again for your confidence and your trust and I look forward to serving the McDonald community and getting to know each of you and beginning this exciting new chapter together.
>> Thank you very much. Thank you very much for sharing your story. We appreciate it. Um and then last but certainly not least, we have Mr. Aaron File who is going to be the new principal of Maples Elementary. Why couldn't you call Maples before
McDonald? But um no, thank you. Um Hanan and I I have to point out what a great person she is. Um we started teaching together at Woodworth on the same day. Uh we became assistant principles at Woodworth at the same time and I couldn't be more honored to share this opportunity with her and become principal ships as well. Um
>> so in sake of transparency, I did not know that. >> Okay. Well, now now we do. Um, I am I am truly honored and grateful to accept this opportunity to serve as the new principal at Maples Elementary. Um, I want to sincerely thank the board of education, superintendent asale, and the district leadership. Um, it is a
privilege to continue and take on this new challenge within Dearbone Public Schools and become a part of the Maples community. I also want to thank my family. My wife couldn't be here, but I could not accept this position without her and the role that she takes with her job, um, handling our house, my son, and all the first day of schools that I have
to miss. um helping other children. It's a role that they do. Um some of my former students, I really appreciate them staying here in this room right now instead of going out to eat with her teammates to help celebrate this moment with me. Some of my mentors, uh Miss Reema Hassan, she played a crucial role into this and colleagues for their
unwavering support throughout my journey. I would not be out here without their encouragement as it comes today. As I begin this role, I do so with excitement, humility, and a commitment to serve our students, staff, and families at Maples. I believe every child deserves a safe, welcoming
environment where they are challenged, supported, and inspired to succeed. I also believe that strong relationships are the foundation of a great school, and I look forward to listening, learning, and working alongside all of them, and including you guys. Maple has a strong tradition of excellence, and
I'm excited to build on that foundation together. I stopped by uh at Maples Elementary on Saturday evening after I got a haircut in Dearborn Heights and it was exciting to see 50 to 60 play students on the playground playing soccer on the pavement and they even let me be official referee for 10 minutes
before my son made us leave. Um but again, I look forward to the partnership of the staff, families, and communities and ensure every student has the opportunity to reach their full potential. Thank you again for this incredible opportunity. I am honored to be here and I can't wait to get started when I get home tonight on the first
documents. So, thank you very much. I appreciate your time. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> Thank you so much. Definitely some exciting times. Um, I'm very excited for our entire school community and our students. Thank you all very much. And I also want to thank everybody who put
their name forward um and interviewed one way or another. We had a group of outstanding candidates as well. >> Next item. >> Next item is discussion. It's a policy update on policy number 7540.09 about artificial intelligence by Katie
Hetrick. >> If Bob needs to join me, uh, the policy committee has discussed this. I think you guys all have seen copies. I don't know if you have any additional questions. This is a new policy for the district. We haven't had one before and I think it's probably a good time to get one in place.
Any questions? >> Wayne, it's definitely needed the policy. I mean, it's a common thing right now. Sorry, Trusty. It's a common thing right now to to to make sure that there's a policy and guidelines that everyone goes to. Trusty Pretzel. Yeah,
I I just um I read it, but I read it very quickly because of the timing of when it came in, >> but I had a a couple clarifications. I'd like to um
understand how the way it's worded. Are are we um secure in the fact that um we have control over who uses it and how they use it in the classroom because a
lot of it talks about well if teachers want to use it and kids want to use it they go to the next highest person kind of thing and then I I'm assuming you're in your current role would be the um technology director or whoever who as
the f I mean where does the board's um ideas are um where are they processed into this um how how are we certain that and is this flexible enough if something
comes from Washington DC or the state that asks for some kind of um security or leverage or whatever with AI used in the classroom, you know. Um I I
I just want to make sure that because this is a whole brand new policy from usually we see a policy that's been in existence and we're just tweaking it. This is completely you know written um
out of I don't know did we follow somebody else's policy or um use something that we know is in existence that has worked. So uh to help answer some of the questions and provide further clarification, we had an AI committee that met and what we did is we
also looked at some of the policies of neighboring districts as well as Niola and so we used the Neola policy as a basis which many districts are currently using like that to form the frame of this for the policy. Our AI committee that looked into this also established
guidelines that we would be able to use. And since guidelines allow us a little bit more flexibility, that's where we can create a lot more of those parameters regarding safety and security for student and staff use. One of the things that we wanted to do in rolling out the AI policy was to really start
small and make sure that we had good data security. So with the tools that we're looking at using would be Gemini and Notebook LM so that we know that we have a closed system we control our personal identifiable information and data that goes into that and we have
access to it uh as opposed to an open system that can be uh you utilized and everything for searches and trained. So if a a and I would hope this would never become a reality,
we have a teacher who is heavily invested in using AI versus others who are more into, you know, could could this get abused somehow in a in a classroom setting without our being
aware of it? And then just as we had uh parent input with um we all remember the book band uh circus that occurred. Are we going to be
able to allow parents to have some kind of um perspective of how their students are um being introduced to AI in the classroom. So, one of the things that we are looking at establishing is as we're
really going slow to roll this out is having uh parents be able to opt in to be able to use it or opt out like that. And so, we want to make sure that parents are aware of their rights like that. If they do if they do not want their children to be able to use AI tools, they would be able to sign a waiver on on that as well too. One of
the things that we do is uh with the guidelines that were established is we have different phases of how AI can be used, including not at all in the classroom. And so what I would expect to have happen right there is we kind of look at the different levels of where students are at like our youngest learners in K early elementary like
that. They're really not going to be utilizing the AI tools like that. But we were going to see more progressive work in our middle to high schools especially at the high school level where we look at our cyber security lab being able to utilize that but also kind of having these different age bands for that as
well too. But I still have worries that maybe some teachers will be so invested in it their whole classroom is AIdriven as opposed to those who are more traditional. Is there a way that we can control to make
sure that there's a better balance? >> Absolutely. As we're looking at the guidelines that we have, part of it is having a happy medium with everything like that. That not every project needs to utilize AI. And with our district technology guidelines that are separate from this policy right there, we do look
at how we impact the use of screen time so that screens are not used all across the board at all times for every single project that students are on. >> Okay. >> And and just to piggy back off that, some discussions that Bob and I have been having or Mr. Addy and I have been having regarding the TAC committee are
exactly kind of what he spoke about is what is appropriate use of technology K3 uh 35 middle school and high school which hopefully will address some of those concerns that you have as well. >> So I I I do have a couple questions. Um
one of them you you chose Gemini just so they know I could not use shad GBT today. So did you limit that? One of the reasons that we were using uh uh Gemini over chat GPT is uh Gemini is a closed system and so we're able to
control the data. Chat GPT helps to train the system so it's out there. So the one thing we don't want to have is any personal identifiable information get out to the public like that. So sorry >> which which makes sense. Um but the question that I had is which has to do
with the privacy uh data and how um if someone uses Gemini um and there's financials or HIPPA type of data or um anything like that would you be notified? Is there a trigger to let you know that somebody used it for
that purpose? >> So what we would be able to see is only our internal uses like that. One of the things that we do have access with the Google admin council is we are able to if there is something that's being used internally like that. It would only be by members of our staff that are asking
questions of the AI or putting any documents in there and we would be able to search what was put in by who. >> The reason I asked that question from a privacy standpoint, you said it's a closed system. Given that it's a closed system, uh would anybody from Google
have access to that data? >> I would say the engineers would probably be able to do it, but because it's a closed system like that, we own and control the data and they should not be looking into it is the major part right there. >> So, we do have privacy when it comes to that. Would you be able to see if
students are using it? How would you limit students and would you be able to see if students are using it to do their work? Oh, that would be the great part right there. So, with our network, we have network logs and we can see where students are able to access different sites with the Google admin tool. We are
also able to see some of their search queries on there as well, too. So, if they were looking up answers for specific problems, we would be able to locate that information. >> Okay. So, trust you guys. >> Now, when you say a closed system, correct me if I'm wrong here, we're talking about the information that's put
into this is not put into Google's training models. >> Correct. >> Okay. And then is the system set up in a way where you we've already predefined uh topics or particular prompts where it would not generate a response as to uh
the non-enterprise version. >> So one of the things that we could do is as as we look at what we have in there like that it does respond and everything like that but in terms of the enterprise version uh like chat GPT and everything that's where it's being trained like this. this is going to give you more of
a structured response based on the algorithm al algorithms that it has that have not been trained. >> So I guess my question is though is can we say can we come in and say hey I can't think of anything off the top of my head right now but maybe a particular topic or a way something is prompted
where the uh the nonarborn schools version somebody could ask it and it would give a response whereas our version would not spit out a response. So, we get more of a I I don't want to say a more of a generic response and everything like that. We don't get a very specific paid response that you
would get like you're saying from more of the enterprise versions like that. I guess what I'm saying is and forgive me for comparing to the enterprise version like right now if I just go into my personal Gemini account I can ask it a question that maybe we in in your school say you know that topic or
whatever you're asking there um it's not going to generate a response because we've put those safeguards or limits in >> so we could do that now there are different models right there so like with the notebook LM if there is something that we put in there as a specific doc do document that's a frame
of reference then it will refer to that document in any of the responses that we have but not putting anything in like that is just going to get the reg regular responses but I know with with notebook I mean you're even giving it the data set for that you know almost sandboxed
conversation that you're having but with the Gemini that's more of the open discussion that you have with Gemini that's where my question comes in >> you know >> if there are topics or things that we know that um sensitive topics and things
like that. Can we limit that? >> There are certain safeguards that we can put in place uh when we set up the system and everything like that. So, a lot of our filter does eliminate some of the keywords that could go in there uh so students aren't able to utilize those as well. >> And so, I know we're talking about using
basically Google products for this Gemini Notebook LM. Um, but I know especially I'm thinking in the high school uh uh setting um there are tools out there that are very specialized AI tools that help churn through lots of data or process things in particular
ways from a science perspective, math perspective. Um are we saying that we are not going to be using those everything has to be Gemini? uh or is there a process if there is a tool that a teacher says, "Hey, listen, we have large data sets that you know typically would take a very long time for us to
get an answer to, but we can use AI to churn through that so we can critically think and get to go through our hypotheses and and and look at answers. >> My recommendation would be to tread very lightly because one of the things that we don't want to do is to add on a lot
and then not see the use cases like that. One of the things that happens is with some of the different AI tools, they're nice, you know, and shiny, bells and whistles and everything like that. We pay into them and we might use them once or twice and then not really maximize the value out of it like that.
So, as we really look at the tools, we will definitely be evaluating other tools that are out there. But again, I'd like to proceed slowly with a lot of these like that. Really look at the costbenefit analysis. Is it going to be something that's going to be able to be used more than once or is it just a
oneanddone kind of deal? >> And so do we have on our network people if they want to try to access some of these other tools are they not able to even get to to those tools? If I go to chatgbt.com does it fail? >> So chat GPT is one that we are currently blocking. But there are others that we
have allowed access for staff to be able to use like that with district credentials but we're not really endorsing those like that. So like magic school would be another one like that. School AI and Brisk are other ones that we have piloted earlier this year like that. So we've worked on it both with
the teaching staff administrators and my network team as well too. >> So if we're eliminating the Gemini but they have access to other tools. I mean can you explain why we why are we allowing access to these other tools when the tool that we're saying that they should use is Gemini? Part of it is we wanted to explore what are the
benefits of using some of the other tools and what we kind of saw with that is the pilot use with risk and school AI. While the staff liked it initially like that, it did taper off after a while and there would be costs associated with it for the upcoming
year. Trusty, >> something that then has me wondering, we have a curriculum um committee that vets that's the books that we put into the hands of the students for the
information that is going to be um used. Are we going to continue to maintain somebody um in the district who's going to be vetting what's coming out of these um queries as it's being used to make sure that um they're legitimate um and
reliable resources that that that um that information is being given to the students as they move through this. >> So we have uh several different fronts that we'd be able to do that with. Uh so the first one would be our district technology advisory committee which is
made up of teachers and principles that would be able to look at the how it's being used in the classroom >> a sampling on a regular basis or something you know >> so having them being able to be really at the forefront right there with what they're seeing. The second front that we would have with that would be our network administrative team to really
looked at the prompt engineering that's going on behind the scenes to look at whether the input that uh staff and students are using like that gives us the output that we really need and everything like that. So we would kind of use a combination of both like that over time to to evaluate it. And that's
why like I say I really want to go slow. >> Yeah. >> In order to go fast like that. >> Go ahead. Um I I do appreciate the the idea of going slow at the same time. Um I know we have a lot of questions and and AI is ever changing. Um but I I want
to reiterate and kind of reemphasize the importance of getting this a policy through in general. Um I know we can take forever to kind of get the the perfect answer. I don't think we'll get there. By the time we we figure it out, the next issue is going to come up. So I really do appreciate pushing this through because um I'd rather have
something in place now and we can tweak um as we go and we learn. We're learning together. I think there are enough safeguards in place where I feel I feel more confident about this. Um much more confident than I would have not having anything at all. Um and then I I do want to say you know through the policy
committee we've looked at this um and we've also looked at other AI policies um around and I think ours is a bit more extensive um and the use of the guidelines is a good strategy and and a good tool to kind of help us leverage that flexibility and then kind of stay um ahead of the game. So, I appreciate
the work that the committee has done, that you guys have done. Um, I know we'll have questions. I think we should stay on top of it. Um, but I think we should also recognize that putting this in now is just really important. Um, and we can't really afford to wait any longer on that. So, thank you.
>> Thank you. Ju just one other question from me is has legal council reviewed this, you know, for compliance? I get it. We have the policy committee but there there's um you know different things students privacy and other things that we have to make sure that it's uh
addressed in the policy. Have we had legal look at it? >> Um I believe because it's Neiola and everything like that. Um, we usually go with it because it's usually approved through the lawyers like that, but I can definitely run it through legal. >> Yola, Yola's vetted and we feel safe with that. But given that, we can still
send it to our legal just to make sure that there's nothing there that could jam us up in the future. >> Yeah, because for public records even um I don't know if there's any limitation with regard to collective bargaining uh anything of that sort nowadays. Um,
I mean it's it's there's risk and and I agree with Trusty S that we got to get going, but we also have to make sure that uh we protect oursel, you know, based on what's known in the industry right now. All right, any other questions? No.
Thank you so much. >> Thank you. Uh, Jason All right. Next item. >> Next item is board of education business starting with acknowledgement of correspondence. >> Um
this is an interesting one. So, we've been getting some correspondence with regard to a situation um you know, a staffing situation without really saying which and and given that under the advisement
of our legal counsel, we um we're deferring going forward to replying to those um communication to the superintendent and our legal counsel. I just want to make it clear for the board that that is the decision that is being
made and it just uh I even know I'm not a lawyer so I'm not able to respond to those kind of communication. So that's the only communication that we've been having. >> Next item u one more just uh we received
this letter from Mr. Dennis Dugen uh somebody who is um amazing person in our community and sent us a very amazing letter as well uh about keeping um
oursel grounded in for the pursuit of the common good. So I'd like to uh recognize uh Mr. Dugen and thank him for his letter. uh his words are always inspiring. So, thank you.
>> Thank you. Any other communications? >> Go ahead, Trusty. I >> I don't have any communications, but I do know that sometimes I just sometimes we get emails from um anonymous emails. Could we not respond to those? I mean, it's just like it just
seems like a we all have limited time and energy. We had a we had a board um resolution years ago. Yeah. >> That we would not respond to anything that was written anonymously. >> Yeah. So >> I mean just in a suggestion at this point.
>> No, I I hear you. We normally don't, but we had situation where uh anonymous emails are sent and then continuous followup from the same people. So, it puts us in a situation where there's no harm to reply in, especially since there
is follow-ups. You haven't responded. Uh, we recently had that situation. Um, I was telling um, Katherine, I'm also getting a lot of emails where they're anonymous and texting, so I'm not replying to those, but um, I think we
made an exception in in in some situation where there's follow-ups. When I see follow-ups, that means somebody's checking up the email. They're just not putting their name. So, I I didn't see any harm, but I I hear you. Okay. Next item is board member
committee and organization reports. And we have one here from the MASB May conference from trustees Bezi and Sub. >> We go there. You guys probably >> said >> you guys are making like a presentation
>> no state your name for the record please don't >> probably um okay so uh May 1st and 2nd uh trusty so and I uh went to the MASB spring uh institute uh that was um a conference uh with various courses that were available
from MASB. Um we both took five courses together. Uh CBA 105 curriculum and instruction, CBA 107 labor relations, CBA 108 navigating the legislative process and CBA 109 data informed decision-making.
Those uh were the capstone course or the the final courses of the 100 level uh courses that we needed to take. And then we also took uh CBA 214 about the open meetings act. Uh 105 was curriculum and instruction. You know its primary parts
were uh drive uh the driving forces in education. Talk about global competitiveness gaps things like that. Uh they talked about datadriven focus looking how to look at data when we're making decisions uh as as it relates to the curriculum and instruction. Uh
supporting instruction. Um and then our board's role, everything ended with our board's role. What what is our board's role with these different? >> Um the next one we took a session on labor relations where we kind of walk through and discuss the importance of
collaboration uh transparency, goal setting, um and then different parameters um to to utilize as strategies when you're in negotiations. Um, and then we also talked about what that looks like from, you know, the the parties involved and then as a board
what our uh our duty and role is. Uh, 108 was navigating the legislative process. Um, embracing advocacy, being active uh to uh advocate for our students uh for our district um forming
relationships with uh representatives in Lancing and local government. uh staying informed. Uh there's resources from MSB like their action center. Um various bills that are going through the process understanding what's happening there, how it could affect uh districts at a
whole and specifically our district. Um rallying behind uh protecting this the school aid fund uh so that we have adequate use for PK through 12. Um and then again went through what our roles are which kind of what I just reviewed. >> Um the next session was on data um
informed decision- making. And so we talked about a lot of the data that comes through the district um and kind of how to help inform and shape that data, what the data points are and what the stat statistics actually mean and tell us um and how easy it is to obviously manipulate to any narrative
that we want. So how um we have to be intentional when looking for specific data points and then our role as a board is to look at you know that higher level view of the data. Um, and the better, you know, the district and administration does at at collecting that, the easier and and higher level we can look at to understand it right away
instead of having to get into the nitty-gritty. So, >> and then finally, uh, we took CBA 214 about the opening meetings act. Um, the gentleman that went through that with us gave us a kind of a fundamental understanding of the act itself. Uh we
talked about a lot of different cases that had come up that uh either challenged the the law and changed it or challenged the law and reinforced it. Um and then you know always staying a breast to those things that do happen and the updates that we get from the attorney general.
With that I think those are our final courses to get certified as uh MASB certified board members. Um trust is now level one certified. um we took the same courses but because I attended last year's conference I had some additional
uh education credits so I am now level two certified there are seven individual and seven whole board award levels that are available any >> questions but thank you for attending >> great job thank you
>> and just so that people understand it is part of our bylaws that when we attend attend any conferences of any kind. We are to come back and then report out to the full board um so that the um community understands that people are
not just going there and wasting time and money um that they're actually learning something and bringing it back to share with us as a full board. >> So I thought they were just doing it because of being nice >> for kicks and giggles. >> We'll go for the bagels.
>> Uh trustee Mazip. Yeah, I also attended the um National Conference for School Boards for Academic Excellence and I'll prepare a presentation for our August meeting. >> Thank you, Trusty Go.
>> Well, we made that a long time ago. >> All right. Um any questions? If not, thank you so much for attending presenting. Um next item. >> Well, we're still on committee reports. Are there any other committee reports? Yeah, >> we did have policy.
>> Go ahead, trust. Yeah. >> Um, we had a policy committee uh prior to this meeting tonight. Um, I think the we discussed the AI policy that came up for discussion today that's going to come up in August for a vote. Um, and then we also discussed, I know this was mentioned before, but we were still kind
of reviewing. We discussed updates to our parliamentary authority um, bylaws and and I think we kind of came to an agreement. So, I'll share those with with the rest of the group. Please provide your feedback review. Um that'll be up for discussion next month. And
then lastly, um was a new policy on microobility. I think that was brought up in May, I want to say. Um I think it was circulated to the board members. I'm not sure why that fell off, so apologies, but um we'll bring that back up. So this is a new policy on the on just microobility rules uh for students
on campus or on the in the district. That'll be up for discussion um in August as well. C could you elaborate on on the procedure or policy that was requested based on our legal uh council? I mean I I just clarify what you meant
by what was discussed and what the next step is >> uh for the parliamentary authority for any >> Yeah. What we asked for the ask was any changes or procedural change has to go through policy and legal. Was that
discussed? Was that >> sure? Um that one we discussed at our we discussed at last month's policy meeting. Um we had come to a standstill and and kind of went back to do some more research on um
on the proposed changes that I brought forth. Um I think we got to an agreement that for lack of better saying um I think we were in a better spot without the changes than we were with and I think u we got to take a better look at you know
our current other policies um in tandem with Robert's rules of order to show us what our path should be instead of uh specifying it um in the the way that was requested. And so the way that that I guess I'll kind of explain a little further, but um
under Robert's rules of order, the chairman, you know, is our parliamentarian who has the authority to kind of make some of the decisions that we're taking away. So we thought it wouldn't be proper to take away the that authority from the chairman. Instead, we can go back and kind of dig through Robert's rules to pick out some of the
the rules that either we have questions on or things that we might not understand better. Um, but to to spell out and limit our rules and authority as a board and as a chairman, I think we agreed that wasn't a proper idea at the time. >> So, how would you handle 1,200 pages if
somebody brings up procedural change based on Robert Rule that has proven not to be true? How would we handle that? Would we go and explore 1,200 pages? What do we do in that situation? >> Sure. So, I think generally speaking,
um, again, as the chairman has uh the authority and is the parliamentarian. So some of the things the general rule is that you know we follow precedent and procedures. So whatever we've been operating by is kind of what we go by. If there's a question um even in that moment we will continue
the meeting as we should the way we've been operating until we can figure it out. If at that point the chairman decides or we all decide we don't have the answer, we don't know what the answer is, we don't want to dig through 1,200 pages, then as a board the way we normally would request legal assistance or do some more research, then we can go
about and do that, you know, naturally. That's how it's kind of spelled out for us already. We don't need to limit our authority. >> But there's a um precedence that has been set and we don't have legal. So, are you saying we have to have legal
here every mean to allow us to bear with me um allow us to answer questions on Robert's rules when it's brought up or introduced and we have no way of knowing what's right? And like I said, there's a precedent that something was introduced
that was incorrect. So, >> it was not incorrect. >> It was incorrect. I mean, we had legal. Come on. Let's not rehash uh use a 12 board less than a 12 board uh a chair can motion and we agreed that that
wasn't the case. My thing was to avoid continuously bringing things up based on uh our interpretation of Robert's rule. And my recommendation was to allow policy to review it and allow legal to
uh look into it before we implement the change based on uh that's outside of our normal procedure. So, we're saying that we don't want to do that based on the policy committee. Correct.
>> Um, I'm saying I don't want to formally spell that out. That is that is our authority now. That is your authority as the chair. Now, as it is, >> whether it's spelled out anyways, um, even if someone raises a question or a concern and we're not sure, they can say whatever they want as the chairman. You
can decide in that moment that it is correct or not correct or we're going to stay on on course for the rest of this meeting until we figure out a solution and the real answer after in which case you have the power as we all do to reach out to legal or to do our research which is what you're requesting anyways
>> outside of the meeting. >> Yes. So you we should continue that meeting you know as is and hope that we don't have any bigger issues. um as the chair you get the final parliamentary say. So, >> and I appreciate it, but if somebody
said there's a hear, say, she say, like uh the chair cannot motion, which I know for a fact that there's a precedence where chair Barry made a motion um and January of 24, my first meeting, and I
pointed that out, but the board made comments that said we've never done that before. So that becomes questionable in that case. I I'll I'll go with what you decided. But I think that would have eliminated
any discussions or debates and allow this board to continue with that the back and forth and allow uh policy and legal to make the right decision versus um you know us questioning each other. >> Sure. Uh 1,200 pages of Robert rule is a
lot and we're not going to be able to right now. We can't even get shed GBT here. I just can't. Uh so um okay, I just want to make clear that my ask was to avoid any discussions or people
bringing up things that are not accurate because of the outcome they're looking for. >> I understand. >> Thank you. On a lighter note, I did get your Chad GPT joke. It's pretty pretty solid. >> You like that? Yeah. >> You want to say something?
>> Um, on the mobility uh policy item, we're talking we're talking about like ebikes and things like that. >> Um, I do think once we do have that set, um, there should be appropriate signage um, at different parts of the district. I'm going to give examples. I've been at Lindberg, I've been at Dearborn High,
people coming down. They're not even ebikes. their uh you know gas powered little bikes that they're coming down on zooming around. There's kids around. Um and it's it it'd be one thing to come up to them and say and I've a couple times I've had to say you can't be doing that
around here. There's a lot of little kids and it's usually cordial, but it's be much easier to say there's a posted sign here that says unauthorized, you know, uh you know, vehicles or whatever it is, you know, cannot be on the property here. So, whatever that needs to be, but I think once we have that set, putting appropriate signage around
would be helpful in that regard. >> Agreed. >> And should should this be coordinated with what the city of Dearborn's um policies are in in accordance to the police department because there are ordinances
on um those types of vehicles as well. So, I would at least refer to the city ordinances regarding um those vehicles as well because uh and I agree signage is important because we've had people where you say no dogs,
you know, but if you didn't have a sign up there, >> people say, "Hey, you know, prove it." So, um, >> appreciate, >> but we wanna we want to make sure that we we are also, um, at least mimicking
some of the ordinances that the city has in place as well about where you can use them, where you cannot use them, and um, >> yeah, >> have some of that backing. >> Yeah. And I appreciate that. I think the city is either in pro in in the current
of doing it. Okay. They're in the process of it. Yeah, they don't have anything >> and kind of look at Not yet, right? But something is is in the works, I believe. >> I'm not sure. >> Yeah. Uh I'm not sure exactly where the city of Dearbornne is, but um I I believe that the real premise behind
this is how we use ebikes on our own property. Correct. Right. >> Uh so that's going to be something that we definitely address. Then as far as the signage is concerned, absolutely. We'll execute that and that's a great idea. >> Um either way, we we'll circulate that for discussion. So you can leave comments directly in the doc if you have
other ideas or or questions on that. >> Yeah, I don't think the city has that I know of because there's a lot of complaint from the public that there's >> maybe these >> I know Dearborn Heights adopted a >> policy they did. >> City of Dearborn may be working on it. >> We'll have to do it with both cities to
for River Oaks and >> yeah city of Dearborn height implemented but the city of Dearborn there's just it's all over the place especially at the park. So I'm sure they're looking at it. Okay. >> Now, I would say if we have more stringent rules, you know, sign that says no ebikes or whatever it is, I
think I I don't know if we have to necessarily wait to see what's going on with the city. Again, I've just seen too many cases where kids are zooming by around really little kids. And you know, if we if we act faster, then we act faster. >> Yeah, >> I agree. >> Okay. Anything else on the Go ahead,
Trusty Bi. We haven't had a committee yet, but I know that we had received an email from Superintendent Sale about Plantaran wanting to do a pre- audit um having a pre- audit discussion. They asked to meet with the treasurer. I know typically we meet as a finance committee with them. >> Well, and we had a pre- audit for Henry
Ford College this morning. >> Okay. >> Already. So, um but Plantaran does both the P12 and the and the college. So, they are in their pre- audit mode right now. So to my understanding if they wanted to meet we would meet as a finance committee and I know the chair they would meet with the chair
separately. That's how we typically have it on it. >> Chair of the finance committee. >> Oh I thought you might chair. Okay. Because I know >> I think they've met with me when I chair the finance before we met with the committee and then we met. >> Okay. What we can do is we can push it through the finance committee and then if any other board member I don't see
why there would be an issue if any other board member wants to meet. >> I think there is a pre- audit commit. There is an audit committee for both the P12 and for the college. They're different members. >> Different committees. >> They're different because um the treasurer is not allowed to be on the
college one, but they but they are the one for the part of the committee for >> when I understood it as the chair meets with them and then the committee I thought >> so typically typically they've recommended that the finance it go through the finance committee but we
just recommended our CFO. So, we didn't know the timeline that they were in. So, what we decided to do was just possibly have the treasurer and the president meet. However, what I'm hearing right now is we would rather just have it go through the finance committee. >> Should be through the committee, >> which we we can easily do >> through the audit.
>> But I uh I I would personally still like to talk to them as a board member because I have concern from the last audit >> and I want to make sure personally that some things are audited. I didn't think they were audited especially the uh special funding uh which isund
I forgot 37 million so to the detail that we want to so I I would like to personally still discuss that as a board member >> well you can't have more than three >> I could I could be by myself you could
be with me Mary >> so I I'll schedule I'll schedule that meeting ASAP and go from Thank you guys. >> Any other committee discussions or anything? If not, next item.
>> Next item is board member and superintendent commentary. >> Uh trusty basian and trust. I'm sorry, not trusty. Uh my he raised his hand. >> Commentary. last time. I know we had a loaded meeting, but we forgot to mention graduations
and uh yeah, it was the best time of the year seeing the joy of families and students alike at those graduations. I had the honor of speaking to the class of 2026 for Ford High School and it was a great one. So, thank you to all of the
staff who have coordinated the graduation ceremonies. uh they were wonderful and to also the staff who have broadcasted uh the recordings online as well. Congrats to all the students. Uh
one more thing is uh we're almost a week away from the August 4th primary and I encourage all of our citizens to go out and vote. Early voting is already in session. You could vote at the Dearbornne um performing
arts center or for for performing arts center from 9 to 5 as well as for Dearborn Heights. I believe the Canfield Center is open for early voting as well. >> Thank you. Trustee Zar and Trusty.
Uh yeah, this is um again unfortunately um I don't know why but I continue to be subject to comments where you attribute intents to me on based let me finish don't interrupt me where you attribute
intents to me based on actions that I and you do it in public instead of having conversations with me. You continue to attribute intents to me based on actions I took during meetings. If you want to disagree with an action, that's fine. But I'd appreciate it if you would stop attributing
or thinking that you know my intent like like you did tonight where he said doing it because of an outcome that I wanted. In fact, if I remember correctly, the motion that you attempted to make was eventually made by somebody else. So um in a proper way. Um so I would just
appreciate if you would please stop doing that publicly during meetings. You've done it a number of times now. Uh, also it is your responsibility as the chair to know the rules of procedure and to know the bylaws and to rule on these things. It's a responsibility. It's not a choice. It's a responsibility
of the chair to do um those things. So, uh I know Robert's rules is a lot, but it's a responsibility of the chair to know those things and to rule on those things. Um that's why that's one of your duties uh as the chair. So um please stop attributing attent intense to me
publicly please. I'm asking you again. I've asked many times before. I'm asking you to stop doing it again and uh please um undertake all your responsibilities as a chair. >> So do you think I should disregard things that you've done in the past such
as um I mean those are facts. We're not talking about intent. Those are facts. So would you rather I keep quiet? >> No. No. I simply said you said that I brought up that you that the chair cannot make motions based on our
president. We were never operating under the small procedure board uh things under Robert's rules like we were seconding all motions and so we were never operating under that based on our president. Now we can have a disagreement about that. That's fine. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about attributing
intent to me which you did again tonight and you keep doing in public and it's insulting and it's unnecessary. That's all I'm asking. Just stop doing that. So when you throw in extra little things like he did that because he wasn't getting the outcome he wanted. It's childish and it's not the way we should
talk to each other publicly. I I do think that there was an intent and whether you like it or not, uh it's wrong to bring procedural change in front of in in the middle of the meeting because of what's going on uh because of
important events that's happening to me. If you're going to bring up something a change, bring it to the policy and ask them to review it. Ask legal to review it. But when you bring it and blindside the the board or the chair, that's not
appropriate as well. So I would ask you to go through the policy and to go through legal when you have a change. I know you're a lawyer and I know you look at Robert's rule, 1200 pages. We we did listen to you when you brought
that motion and then when legal came and said you're wrong. That was that was something publicly. So let's just stop doing what you're doing and be respectful of the procedure. That's all I'm saying.
>> Okay. Again, you're doing you're doing it again. >> I'm not you're you're lecturing doing what you're doing. I'm simply asking you if you have a disagree about a procedure that's fine. But the process is you're the parliamentarian. You're the one who's responsible to know these rules.
We were not operating under the small board rules. That's fine. You brought in the lawyer who you called your lawyer, which was incorrect, but that's fine. >> He's our lawyer. Stop being so dramatic >> to say to say that that's a a a section we could operate under. And we've now
addressed that in the policy committee. And I think we've made a good recommendation in the policy how to >> address the change. I really didn't expect the change. That's why I was asking a lot of questions. >> No, no, we we we addressed the parliamentary thing to say that we're operating under the small committees. I think that
>> uh I don't know if that was fully clear and trust report. >> But as far as stopping a meeting when there's a disagreement about a policy or sorry disagreement about a procedure to say, well, let's just stop and then go to a policy committee. that didn't seem to make much sense to us and we
discussed it at length because we have policy we have procedures for that already. You're the chair chief parliamentarian. >> Trustees are when there's disagreement and there's miss spoken um words to say that we've never done it before by other
trustees. It puts the what you bring in into a challenge. So, we cannot I'm asking you you're asking me uh to do certain things and I'm asking you to stop bringing things up and go through the policy and go through legal if you
want to change anything. That's all I'm asking. >> That's what we're doing. >> See, you haven't you haven't done that in the past >> and I'm not sure you're going to stop doing it in the future. >> There was there was there was the one meeting in May when we were talking about super. We're in the board member commentary. I'm just commenting. There
was one meeting in May where I brought up that the chair cannot make motions. Now we Yes, Robert Rules has a cutout if you follow a bunch of conditions for small boards. We were not following those conditions. That's not the precedent that we were operating under.
>> So So I would ask you in the future, do a little more homework, your lawyer, and make sure you don't bring up something that's not accurate. >> No, I it was not not accurate. But that's a legal question. >> That's that's a legal question. Do your homework asking you Stop insulting me in public during >> not insulting you.
>> When you attribute intents to people when you say someone's doing something because they didn't get what they want. That's the way that's childish. That's not the way we should. >> I do think that you brought that up because of intent of the outcome. I I still believe that whether you disagree
with me or not uh or you agree with me or not. I'm still saying it's not something we should with all with all due respect. I am going to ask if we can just please move on right now. >> Let's move on. I I think I think >> asking again that you stop doing that during public meetings. You've done it many times and
>> and you need you need to >> Trusty Bazzy, did you have comments or did you >> go ahead Trusty Bi? >> Um I just wanted to give the board an update. I know that um in May we passed a resolution in support of the Rowan Act and Senate Bill 456. I'm happy to
announce that the governor signed those bills into law last week. And uh now we have the uh Amber Alert and wireless uh messaging um capability for children and adults that are in danger. Um so law
enforcement can issue those alerts if it's uh whether it's a student or whether it's outside of school. Uh that capability now exists. And again, I thank the board for supporting that resolution. I'm very happy that that has passed and we can protect our most vulnerable citizens.
>> Okay. >> Thank you, Trusty. >> Does it become effective January 1st or is it immediately? >> So, uh in conversations with uh Representative Farha, um there is a implementation period uh maybe up to 90
days. Um there will be uh law enforcement, Michigan State Police has to work on the procedure of how that works and then working with local law enforcement. So I already have I've had conversation with Chief Shaheen about it, making him aware of it. Um, and then we will be, you know, once that procedure is in place, it is something
that I think our head of security should understand what that procedure is if in the event that we do need to uh um have that activated. Um, we understand what the policy and procedure is with our local with Dear One and Dear Heights Police.
>> Great job on that. Anyone else? Trusty Prego. >> Yeah. Um I just wanted to bring up um very briefly uh because Dearbornne also made the news the schools for a very unfortunate um malicious uh vandalism of
one of our playgrounds at Nan Elementary School. And it was all over the news for several days. It was quite a um display of um malice. I I I'm assuming that it
was done not to um target anyone in particular, but rather out of boredom and uh entertainment
uh by some individuals. Um but the unfortunate thing is it um damaged equipment that was uh very uh well utilized by children in the community um including our special needs students. Um
I will say that the city of Dearbornne has um embarked upon uh revamping all of their playgrounds to also include special need playground equipment. So there and we will be replacing this equipment as well
at Non. Um I saw a very nice video for the community knows that like you're saying it is a priority. Uh but what I want to express is for those individuals who live around uh any
of these recreational areas where it attracts young people who maybe have nothing better to do with their time. Um it's all of our responsibility to um watch
and report if we see something that we think because this was looked like it was a fairly bright daylight hour that this occurred and nobody recognized what these uh two individuals were up to at
the moment until it until it was quite a sizable um fire. So, we all need to be um on watch. We all need to um protect our community. Um and we all need to
help uh people find better ways to occupy their time in this community. So, um it's it's everybody's responsibility. And the one thing that we have been talking about which we just had a presentation about expect respect. This
is one of those times where those individuals didn't respect um school property or the rest of the community's um ability to um enjoy our our property and the taxpayer
dollars and anything else you want to call it. And um this is a message we've got to continue to um spread throughout. And it's not just a school's responsibility, it's the city's responsibility, it's all of us.
>> Thank you. >> Two quick um event updates. Um one um through the city is uh Dearborn Summer Market um at Peace Park West on August 14th. uh early learning coalition has a booth there and so this will be our second time at the at the market this
summer and the first time was was great. We had students, parents um of the district and out of the district come and talk to us at length and we passed out a bunch of goodies. So come check us out if you're if you're coming by. And then the second one, sorry to steal the soup's thunder, uh he'll go into this a little more in the next meeting, I hope,
but um the Ed Foundation is hosting its annual golf outing. Um and it's uh on September 21st this year, and so registration is open for that. So we're we're pushing registration. Um it's for a good cause. And again, Soup will do his thing, but I just wanted to throw that out there. Thank you.
>> And Dearborn Homecoming is the first full weekend of August. And I believe the DFT again will um have a booth handing out free books to any children and they're for all age ranges and stop by and visit any all of us who will be
wandering the uh fairgrounds. We'll be there to answer any bond questions you may have. >> Yes. >> Anything else from anyone? If not, um, I have some items under board member commentary, but they're a part of the
request for information. So, I'll I'll kind of speak to them on that when we get to that. So, if not, next item. >> Request for information and or future agenda items. >> I I do want to speak on some of the in uh information that I requested and uh
was provided. So, I do want to thank the the the the superintendent and the central office staff for providing um some of the things that I asked for was EL outcome. Uh I did ask for more additional information based on the outcome for
2026. We had 8,424 total uh students and um 717 exit it which is 8.5% uh that exited from the ELM. The the question that I asked is uh I would love
to see it by school because that would give us more um a better look where we're struggling. Uh you know we might have some schools doing better than others. Um the one other thing that I want to some I asked about the retirees consultant and substitute the uh information was
provided. I asked for additional information. Is the contract going to be renewed? Um if they are going to be renewed, have we looked into making sure those position become permanent position instead of using retirees? Um when I say retirees, somebody that retired from the
district, left and came back. I think one of the thing we want to discourage is people you know um if we want somebody um if we have a need then we hire for the need versus you know consultant or advisory. Um the other
thing that I asked for is goals results from last year we had a SIP committee and we had goals uh we want to see where we are with the different schools. Goals were given to each school. Um the one thing I want to make a comment on I
asked for STEM and early college selection process and I saw the um I saw the comments by the principles and which is a little kind of concern and um because it wasn't implemented as it was asked. They said the only thing they
added was live streaming which is a good thing. But the idea was to introduce students us providing students with numbers that they would that they would know and when we do the process the students at home would know that they
were picked. So I'm not sure if that was implemented in that sense um and we could we could talk about it because basically what they said the only thing that was done was live streaming. everything else was the same and that wasn't the intent. The intent was how do
we make sure that there's transparency which is a live streaming and how do we make sure that the right kids uh you know uh it's fairly picked it's not somebody and I'm not questioning anything but a lot of parents have asked how do we make sure that the there's
transparency so Mike maybe we could talk um >> yeah I I I'll be more than happy to review the process but I do know that it was live streamed this year and we did have I thought some type of lottery but I'll look into specifically uh where the disconnect is and how we can possibly fill that gap.
>> Yeah. Because I want to say some people, you know, they asked for a certain number of people that they could selectively pick and things like that. And I'm like, it's only fair that people um you know, I remember my granddaughter missed it by one point. She didn't make
it. And and it's fair that you know, if she missed it by one point, that's fair. But I think there was a step missed. if we could talk about it because that was the major step. Live streaming was to see if your number is picked >> not just to to live stream for the sake
of live streaming. So, thank you for prov providing the information. I really do appreciate it. >> No problem. And and hopefully we'll get the additional information to you all soon as well. >> Okay. Thank you. Um any Go ahead, Trusty B. >> Um I know we've talked about this
before. Technology utilization. I think I think trying to formulate some sort of metric or metrics so that we can understand what that is. I know we've talked about that before. That is something I think we need to just get our hands around because we talk about technology and how are they using it. Some will say too much and not enough
but what are we measuring that off of without some sort of metric and then something we can measure and and and hold ourselves accountable to. Um it just won't move along. So I think if we can figure out what those metrics are that we find are most valuable that would be that would be really good.
Absolutely. Ju just to get clarity and understanding, are you talking about, you know, I know we've spoken in the past about possibly our technology committee coming up with like grade bands of what's appropriate use of technology for each age or each grade or are you talking about something else? >> So, I want to make sure that that I get
it right. Well, I think right now when we're looking at it, I think and I think I I agree with some of the decisions that you've made so far about um when you know uh how much technology is going to be used at different grade levels and such, but also being able to have some sort of metric. How much is it?
>> How effective is it or how much how much >> Well, there's usage and then effectiveness. Okay. Right. Um just being able to to you know, I'll have parents say, "Oh, they're having them on the computer all day long." Like, well, no, I mean, what are we actually doing? How are we doing it? I know we do measure it and limit it by certain
minutes and all that. Got it. If we already have that and we have those metrics and we can see and also gives us the ability to see across grades and buildings is there different. >> Perfect. >> Bob, do we have anything along those lines? Uh >> busy day for you. >> There we go. >> Might as well just uh stake myself out
here. Uh at this time we don't have any specific metrics with the number of minutes used with Chromebooks and everything. We do utilize them uh for some of the different subjects where we have online resources as well as projects that teachers use uh with students like that. A lot of it will
vary by level as teachers don't necessarily use it a lot with the early elementary grade levels. But what we can do is definitely put together some age level bands that I can share during an upcoming meeting. >> Okay. I just want to make sure like if we're saying we don't want utilization by certain minutes or whatever is how
are we measuring that and how are we making sure that that's that's happening >> because I have heard sometimes we'll say hey you know we limit usage in a classroom to only 45 minutes in a week or whatever it is how do we know that it's 45 minutes if we don't have any metrics >> right we monitor
>> right thank you >> uh anything else any requests I don't see any so next item >> future meeting dates Monday, August 17, 2026, P12 Board of Education meeting, 700 p.m. at the Administrative Service Center in the Frankie boardroom. Monday,
August 24th, 2026, P12, Board of Education meeting, 7 p.m. at the HFC board of trustees meeting, 700 p.m. Sorry, Monday, August 24th, P12 Board of Education meeting.
This is not This is for the HFC meeting. Sorry. Monday, August 24th, 2026, HFC board of trustees meeting, 7 PM at the Administrative Services and Conference Center in the Rosenol boardroom. And Monday, September 14th,
2026, P12 Board of Education meeting, 7 p.m. at the Administrative Service Center in the Frankie boardroom. >> All right. Uh if there's if there are any further business, if not then, um this meeting is ajourned.
>> Thank you.