Recording in progress. [clears throat] Okay. Welcome to the town of Deerfield Select Board Board of Health Sewer Commissioners meeting for December 3rd, 2025. The time is 6 p.m. Uh location is a hybrid meeting both on Zoom and in the main meeting room at 8 Conway Street,
South Deerfield, Mass. This meeting will be held in a hybrid fashion with the opportunity for both in-person attendance and remote participation. Please note that while an option for remote attendance and/or participation is being provided as a courtesy of the public, the meeting or hearing will not be suspended or terminated if
technological problems interrupt the virtual broadcast unless other unless otherwise uh required by law. Members uh of the public with a particular interest in any specific item on this agenda should make plans for in-person versus virtual attendance accordingly. The meeting will be held in person in the
main meeting room of the Deerfield municipal offices in accord um in accordance with the Mass General Law chapter 30A. Anyone intending to record the meeting must identify themselves to the clerk and provide their name and address for the record. I'll call the
meeting to order. Um we have public [clears throat] comment. If anyone has any comment, they're welcome to on anything on the agenda or anything at all you'd like to talk to the board about. Happy to hear it now.
>> What uh any topic? What what topic are you thinking >> specifically? >> Okay. Yeah, I'll I'll allow that at at that time. Y >> you're welcome. And >> you Okay. Sure. Yeah, we'll take comments. We'll take comments at that time. Anybody else for any other
items? Okay, great. Um, so we'll just take care of a couple other things. Um, any select board announcements or reports or anything to hit on. Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving
with your families. It was very nice to relax. And I'm thankful to the elves in town who put up the lights on the on the uh poles and all the decorations around. So, it's really nice to see the town uh all festive. I know that uh there's a group that worked together to put the
the deer on the common and nice to see everything uh for the season all dressed up. It looks >> and that the uh they've got the tree lid back up on the mountain again too. >> Fuses replaced and we're good to go for the season. >> Exactly. >> It's nice to see. >> You probably are aware, but just for the
audience, um Yankee Candle and New Brands are going through some downsizing again. Um we don't have any direct information about um whether this will affect South Deerfield stores. That seems to be centered in the stores.
Apparently about 20 candle stores are going to be closed globally. >> Um so just wanted to share that uh >> thank you >> information. Um, okay. Uh, let's do
>> we uh thank Tim for his his walk that he did, right? >> We did not. Yes. >> I think we should be thanking him for that. Getting out there and doing it, >> you know, >> and everybody >> a lot of people in town. Deerfield is >> I think we did about 10% of the total
800,000 that's been raised so far from >> Great. >> Ben Clark, of course, and Clarkdale are big engine of that. So he he he and the family deserve a lot of credit. But the schools also got a great team this year. >> Absolutely. It was so nice to see
>> very well needed. So it was good. Thank you again. Um so we have uh any board of health comments? I know that you know there is some COVID still cropping up and the flu is around. So you know just again protect yourself as best you can.
Um we don't have any notes from Ned recently. >> Well, you know, the only thing I would mention is that um you know, we have been talking about a a fats, oils, and grease or fog policy. Um and I know um Alex has been working on that a little bit with Ned as well. Um so down the
road, we'll we'll probably have something to present to the board to look at for adoption on that that front. >> Good. Thank you. Um let's see. So, we have um minutes. Let me just find my
There we go. So, I'll make a I'll make a motion to um approve the minutes of November 19th, 2025 for a select board executive session. November 19th, 2025 joint uh meeting with the planning board in the select board. November 19th, 2025
regular select board meeting. November 24th uh 2025 regular select board meeting and December 2nd uh select board executive session meeting minutes. >> Second. >> Thank you. All those in favor? >> Blake Gilmore. I >> Tim Hil.
>> Trevor McDaniel. I >> Great. Thank you. Um so for the uh discussion and decision items, we um have a second review and possibly a vote of the uh sewer regulations and adoptions that take effect January 1st, 2026. And again, I
wanted to thank the group that came together, Alex and Chris and Greg and uh Matthew and uh Eric have all kind of been working hard to go through our our reg. Yep. went through all the fine fine
tooth stuff um on putting together our regulations for the sewers which you know encompass everything from cutting into the roadway and what do you pack it with and what size pipes you use and what are the fees and all that kind
of things and um so I have been a part of that so I'm I'm comfortable with it I don't know if anyone else has any questions or comments we have a copy of them here. >> Do you want to just go through the highlights or have Chris? >> Sure. >> Yeah, I'm happy to just speak to the
highlights and I certainly second uh Trevor's point about, you know, the staff we've had here and all the work they've done on this. Everyone's been great helping out and get these across the finish line. So, I just wanted to point out so um first of all, you know, that we didn't include specific penalties in these uh regulations. Um
instead, we just rely on what's called our noncriminal disposition bylaw. Um, and that allows uh Matthew as the sewer superintendent uh to, you know, levy fines um first $25 first offense, $50 second offense, and then $100 for every
offense thereafter. Um and so for the moment, we're going to go with that schedule for fines. Um did also want to just highlight, you know, in the past, um all bills, sewer bills have been based on water meter, um which works for 99% of our sewer users. We do have a
handful of properties that are on sewer that for whatever reason do not have a functioning water meter. Um, and it's something we remind our water supply district about all the time. >> Um, but uh what this these regulations do is provide for an average estimated
bill going to those users so that they're actually paying for the the sewer use that they are currently enjoying. Um, so that's that's something that wouldn't go into effect until uh July 1st of 2026. So, putting folks on notice, but uh if you've got a broken water meter, you might want to go ahead
and fix it. >> Then a couple other items. Um you know, this does provide for intermunicipal agreements. Um so if you know, another neighboring community wants to join the sewer system, this creates a framework for that process. Obviously would be a much bigger conversation, but these
regulations do include consideration of that. Um, and then as Yuri said, just outlines standard stuff around earthwork requirements, piping. Um, and Matthew Morris, our our DPW super, as well as, uh, Eric Meals, our our chief wastewater operator, still working on, uh, schedule
for connection fees that'll be updated. Uh, an industrial discharge permit uh, and also just kind of I think a future conversation will be around the uh, alternative betterments that our bylaw allows for. So, in the future, we'll be, you know, looking to update these
regulations at the same time we update our rates. So, every fall, we'll be having a hearing on on both of those items. >> Yep. Definitely gives us more flexibility and keeps it up front. So, great. Um, okay. So,
so I move the select board in its capacity as the Deerfield sewer commissioners adopt the sewer use regulations as presented to take effect January 1st, 2026. >> Second. >> Thank you. Any further discussion or questions?
>> Just want to clarify this. This essentially moves we used to be driven by a bylaw. Is that right? So, anytime we wanted to change anything, we had to go to the legislature. So this frees up our hands and allows us to respond much more quickly and effectively um as needs
arise. >> Right. So once when the town adopted a few years ago chapter 150 our our new sewer bylaw that allowed for the board to promagate these rags um and these regs really are about you know what Matthew is doing dayto-day um to make sure that our sewer users are um you
know in compliance and and just keeping our sewer system healthy. >> Yep. >> Great. Um, all those in favor, >> Blake Gilmore, I >> Tim Hilg I, >> Trevor McDaniel, I. Thank you very much. Thanks again for that work. Um,
so, uh, next, um, is a again another read of the and, uh, possibly vote on the, uh, South County Senior Center inter municipal agreement amendments. So, um, these have been passed in the other two towns, but we, um, wanted some a little bit more time to review them.
The board of oversight, um, has been working for the last year or so on just kind of updating our, um, intermunicipal agreement, which is maybe 15 years old at the moment. And um what we were
trying to do was to kind of group in um some of the users uh of the senior center on the board of oversight. So the the I guess the major couple of major changes would be most of it is all just clerical. uh but um one of them is is
the uh board of oversight shall be composed of one member of the select board from each member town or their design. In addition, each select board shall appoint one active senior center member from their town um to the board
in an advisory capacity. So, uh, some towns use, um, you know, we have a council on aging, but some are not active. Some are, some are on that council of aging, but don't really attend the center much. So, we really thought just an active senior center
member could be on the board to advise each town and the board of oversight as to, you know, what's going on and decisions we make before we bring it to the towns. Um so we thought that was a good move going forward to get more involvement on um the governance of of
the center. And then the the other structure was that we were going to change um the aortionment costs which are pretty right now they're 20 uh 50% deerfield 25 sun 25 weightely they're uh we were going to change them a lot like
the schools and other other entities that we do with based on the population in the town. So the annual budget aortionment cost each member town shall share of the net budget for the senior center shall be proportional to each member town's uh senior population age
60 and older according the most recent uh federal census for each town. We kind of studied well you know we tried a couple different things so how many people use it um we thought the fairest thing because you never know when somebody's going to use it or not would be just how we get paid from the state
is based on population um and a age of that population. So um similar to the schools it's a percentage we're about I want to say oh I know Jennifer just texted me this too. So
um Deerfield's 54% 28% for Sundan and 18% for Wheatley. So this is kind of how we would change. This is our annual budget that would be done each year. Um similar to what we do now, but just kind of getting it more more uh aligned for
each town. >> Trevor, >> does this is this going to be reviewed every year? Is it if there's a change in population and that sort of thing or is it done? It's it's based on um it's based on the census, so it's every 10
years. Um but we looked going back multiple censuses and they they aligned, you know, pretty close to that number. So there wasn't a really large change. Um, we could if there was for some reason some way out of the ballpark
change and Deerfield went down to 20%, we can always bring this agreement up and vote it and talk with the towns, but I think it it looked pretty steady. And we looked at a couple other ways of splitting it up and it it all seemed to kind of fall in the same. We looked at
usage. Um, how many people kind of scan their my senior center card when goes in. um it all kind of worked out to about that that usage. So, but yes, we can always bring it back and we should, you know, you know, every year look at look at the agreement and then, you
know, every 10 years we should should update it for sure. We're a little behind the schedule. So, we had looked at some other things to do, but thought we would hold off on those. Um, you know, creating a district, um, you know, doing different
things. We thought, you know, about buying a building or how do we, you know, right now we're trying, you know, we're a three- town entity, but trying to figure out, well, who would who would own a building if it was in a different town? Should it be a district or um or
um some other agreement? So, a lot like Buckland Shelburn has a kind of a similar kind of setup and we've been just thinking we would hold back and watch how that plays out for them and see what would work best for us uh going forward. So, we decide not to take any
any other steps, but really just changing getting some other membership on our board and uh just changing how it was how it was paid for our budget. any uh so I'll I'll make the motion and then we can discuss it further. So I
move the uh select board approve the amendments to the south county senior center intermunicipal agreement as presented. We have a second. >> Second. >> Thank you. Any further discussion or questions? >> Yeah. The uh senior center people or the seniors that would be on the they're in
an advisory capacity. >> Correct. They also able to go back laterally and talk to the select board in their town as far as things changes and that sort of thing. How does that work? >> Absolutely. Yeah. I mean they can they really they're just a conduit for us on
the boo or the select board. Always welcome to have them come and and report here, but um it it's really just to try and get us a feel for what's going on daytoday there. Um I work a ton and we have multiple
meetings all the time. It's hard to be at the center as much, but it would give give them a voice at the table and uh in the governance and work with the director and have a say on kind of how they think, you know, we could improve and bring services, but certainly can always report back to this board here
too. >> Okay. So, as far as picking them, is that something that is going to be or we we will >> it would be the select board that would appoint one member. you know, we could take a recommendation from anybody, but yeah, it's up it's up to this board who would be our representative on that
board. >> Yep. >> Okay, great. Any further questions? All those in favor? >> Blake Elmar I. >> Tim Hilg. >> Trevor McDaniel. Thank you all very much. Um,
okay. Uh so uh next discussion is the Treehouse Brewing Company's entertainment license revisions regarding noise restrictions. Um so let's see here. So yeah, I think it was just a continuing discussion. Do you
want to Christopher? >> Yeah, just give a little preface here. Um, so you know, back at the end of the concert season, we decide we'll we'll give it a little time for everyone to kind of settle down and then we'll we'll um, you know, restart this conversation when the entertainment license renewal
comes up. Um, so so last month in November, we had uh a meeting where, you know, we heard from some Deerfield residents um about their issues uh with sound uh emanating from the concerts. Uh Greg and myself had an opportunity to meet with Treehouse on a couple
occasions um and just talk about some solutions to sound mitigation um to the overall calendar of events and a couple other items. And I think we had some really productive conversations with them. Um so I think tonight, you know, we want to certainly hear uh Treehouse's perspective a little bit um and then
also, you know, talk about some draft conditions that have been put together. Um, and the hope is to have, you know, that we're in a place where we can renew an entertainment license for Treehouse Brewing, uh, at our next regular meeting, um, with some reasonable conditions and and, uh, in a way that,
you know, gives the community what they need and gives Treehouse what they need as well. >> Great. Um, you want to invite >> Yeah, we we invite Yeah, come on up. Introduce yourself and >> Klondike is here.
>> Oh, great. Yeah. Well, come on up. Yeah, hop on up and just introduce yourselves to the public and remember to speak into the mic so it >> you really need to to eat. >> Yeah, pull them forward and you almost have to eat the mic so everyone can hear. >> Sarah Majimmore. I work for Treehouse
Brewing Company. I've met everyone up here uh previously and Chris had said we've had a couple of really good meetings recently. Uh previously you met with my um former colleague Ally. So, um, she generally is is a face that we
see more often, but I'm pretty excited to be more involved with our our, um, summer stage program and our community relationship, uh, for Treehouse. So, again, thank you for having us here. Understand that uh, the subject on the agenda is um, sound mitigation and how
we will continue to strive to make improvements. We just closed our third. >> Just try to lean right into Mike. I can just tell from one of our folks online that it's it's you really got to eat these mics. So, apologize. >> Speak right here.
>> You can yell at us. [laughter] >> I can fix that. Trust me. >> Yeah, I got the sound I got the sound guy. >> You get the sound guy here. >> Um, so we just closed our our third season. Uh, I would say it was um a more robust calendar of events. Some of the
feedback that we've received um is taking a look at the um totality of the events and like what months they're >> speak months they occur in Oh wow. Okay. Yeah.
>> Um and so we've taken some of that feedback. We look forward to working with public safety to take those learnings from last season. Um they had some comments. So, I believe we're going to be meeting on that. But for this evening, if I'm correct, we are here to
discuss um our our sound mitigation efforts. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Thank you. So, I know I I guess I would kick it to Greg to uh speak on anything that he has um sent your way or if you had uh
questions, but I wanted to clarify that the packet that was sent that I I think that you have was some background um from Greg. So, also I'm I'll let Jason introduce himself. >> Yeah, please. >> Hey, I'm Jason Rubin. I own uh Klondike Sound in Wheatley and we provide uh the
production for the Treehouse series. so I can speak with some expertise on how the sound travels through the air. >> Thank you. >> Thanks for being here. So >> I I can just comment that we uh we did
meet and uh just to get us all on the same page uh and to bring back I brought back some u of the results of the meeting that we had and it really was to look at um you know there was there were a number of complaints about um the
subwoofers uh the low frequencies that they tend to to travel the farthest and that tends to be what people hear and experience and vibration. Um so uh we had a discussion this last week about uh
looking at a dual sort of cardio array facing backwards and fa facing for frontwards that was our discussion if correct me if I'm wrong Jason and what that does is uh looking at the the document that they sent which was very helpful uh because it gave a number of
scenarios in terms of how uh subfrequ uh sorry subwoofers um can be put into an array and where the null points are, which the null points are basically a sort of a way where the um the frequencies will
often collide and they'll cancel each other out and therefore it reduces the uh the overall decibel level of those those frequencies. Um so with that uh report or document that they sent us uh
it kind of clarified that what they were presenting or proposing to do with this double array is actually the most effective for behind the stage which is where we got uh a lot of um complaints. Um and then also in front of the stage
going in, you know, a particular direction which was sort of you know almost centered. Uh but one of the things is we'll uh we'll do a little bit of trial and error at the beginning of the season to you know sort of fine-tune that because it's you know it's not an
exact science with this. um and try to work out what seems like a a good sort of mitigating um angle and and you know the the backwards I think is a little clearer in terms of right >> you know because you've got you do have
obstructions behind the stage you've got pelican you've got trees and so it really is going to be looking at just sort of a broader um you know just trying to cancel those frequencies out going backwards because they'll tend to go in the path of least resistance,
meaning around buildings and and so that's the sort of approach behind the stage and then uh in the front of the stage it'll be more sort of directed in a particular direction. So >> yeah, and I think I think a lot of what we hear for
um the complaints that we get or notices that we get about the you know the vibrations or you know it's just it's overpowering is really behind you know Hillside Jackson Road kind of those houses kind of right behind and then
obviously going forward as well. I mean, you don't really hear much north or south. People can hear it. And again, this doesn't it's not going to quiet the sound completely. Still going to hear the music. I mean, we're there's not a way to shut off the the concerts and still have concerts. So, um the idea is
to find keep refining and keep making improvements to people's lives so that um it's not disruptive. I mean, there it's it's really tough and there's a couple things around that. It's and I'm grateful to learn about how we can arrange speakers and the subwoofers cuz
I think that that's what, you know, drives people crazy the most when the windows are rattling and the and the, you know, pictures on the walls are moving and they're just they're really upset about how the vibration they're feeling um of that um and uh more than
more than the sound. I think it's it's really feeling that you know constant um vibration. So, um, so that's helpful that there is some technology, there's ways that we can try to mitigate that. So, I'm I'm grateful that you're working working to do that. Um, a couple other
things are, you know, around when we do these concerts. Um, and I think the the one thing that that is evident is that we do not want a concert on the two nights that kids are starting school for the season. And that's generally around
the 26th 27th of August. Those two nights, um, you know, parents, it's not so much the kids can't go to sleep. It's parents are stressed. You know, it's summer's over, back to the grind. It's really a difficult time. It's a
stressful time for everybody, but really getting kids to bed early, getting them started in school. Um, you know, I talked with the superintendent. This year is kind of odd because Labor Day starts the 7th. So, it's much later in the season than normal. Usually, it's around the end of August um or that
early first week in in uh September, but it's the 7th this year. So, I believe they're they're negotiate each year we negotiate with the teachers union about when we start the calendar of school, number of days, all that kind of thing. So, right now, believe the teachers will be back the 26th.
Kids will be in school the 27th which is a Thursday, 28th which is a Friday. So it's really like the 26th night, the 27th night, no concerts would would need to be kind of that would be the ideal.
Um and then you know Friday night not a problem. The kids are you know are off the next day people are off on the weekend. So, um, and then the following week, um, you know, I I think you were planning to end, uh, the season
somewhere around the 31st, but, you know, acts kind of come and go towards the end of that season, and I know that you'll look at picking up, you know, acts here and there at the end, but we would like to keep like after school starts, no, no more than two that week.
Um, and I think you were planning to kind of finish off. So really, it's it's kind of just as everybody's trying to get back to a groove that that week especially is is stressful. So I was hoping that was the case last year and sure enough, first night of school,
>> concerts happening, parents are upset. So >> absolutely heard on that. Um do we have confirmation that it is the 26th and the 27th? So right now where we are um is we're in a little bit of a holding
pattern in terms of who we can book >> and so we feel after three seasons we're you know we've continue to improve hear what you're saying about the noise but our execution are working with the community public safety um and so we would like the ability to continue to
strive to bring um >> highly desirable acts to Deerfield into Franklin County and to the region. Um and so when we have everything locked down here, we're going to be able to do that, >> right?
>> So good timing knowing that those we'll call those blackout days. >> Would love that. >> Um >> parents would love that >> and and yeah, I mean we're here to be good community partners. >> Absolutely. >> I will say though, I don't think the community wants us to miss out on an
opportunity. Correct. So I would be uh hesitant to you know [snorts] throw all whole bunch of dates and restrictions beyond that. But you're what you're saying is absolutely reasonable and this is if if those are the dates we can go to our uh talent booking partners and
say >> it's just not not on the table. >> Right. That'd be great. That would be great. And we can confirm that with you. >> Uh we'll get back to you. But I'm almost 100% those are the two nights. >> Right. That's great. And I know with between the Labor Day and I I have four children myself. I it's stressful when
you say this like I I I feel that you're right. I think it's the more transition is bigger for the parents for the kids. So I totally hear that. I think that last year was a little strange because no one knew till late. Usually it started Thursday before all my years as
a parent Thursday before Labor Day. Then they moved it to Tuesday and now so >> it was it was a weird Yeah. Weird year too. If if we can lock down those dates now going into our booking because as I said we're in that holding pattern. >> Sure. >> Yeah, we can definitely help with that
for sure. That'd be great. I'm grateful for your help on that. >> Did Darius provide um when school closes for the summer [snorts] because again, you know, we want to try and >> Great question. I can find that out for
sure as well. So, our program as as we have it planned this season, um we lease our stage and all of our scaffolding and our lights and all that for the production and that's >> um you know we are best in class in that. You've all been to the shows. This
is it is an elevated experience. >> Um and so right now it it's also a very you know it's a big expense. So right now we have our lease for June, July and August. That is our plan for our summer concert series. Um, if an incredible
opportunity came >> and we spilled into September, but it's not going to be the same >> um schedule of events those first couple weeks in September. Frankly, we're working on the um >> the
>> finances of the program and so we've planned for three months of stage. >> Yeah. and and generally I can get the dates in June and and of course those are >> wrapping up school not as stressful as like starting. So um but I can I can definitely get get that for sure.
>> I know it's like the the first or second week of June as >> and you know you're right the end of the school is different than the beginning of school. >> Yep. Um but uh did we also talk about um
if [snorts] something bleeds into September that we're going to change the time that the concert has to stop? Is that something we talked about [snorts] >> that may have been on the list at that meeting? >> We did talk about since you know the stage rental ends on a 31st but you
anticipate there's a possibility of having axe come in after that. um maybe setting some additional restrictions just as an acknowledgement again that you know school's back in session. It's the beginning of the year. Um but I don't think we came to any exact >> time >> time on that. Yeah.
>> I mean as it is >> is there any way that you can have the majority of your concerts during the July and August time period and maybe limit yourself in June to maybe one concert a week or >> unfortunately that that wouldn't be wouldn't be possible for for this
program. >> Right. Oh, in other words, you're still saying that there's chances you could do three or four concerts in a week during that time period. >> That is possible. Yes. So, as I understand it, and I I am not the talent booker,
>> but we send out offers to a lot of acts that we would like to see, and then we need to know from their talent folks if they are available, >> right? And then we piece together our program or curate our program with a
variety of different acts, different genres, different uh generations of things. I I think our schedule reflects that. >> So um when we send a number of these offers out, we have to be prepared to invite them to come and and meet our end
of the bargain, right? Um and we send out a fair amount of them hoping that people will accept, but not all of them do. So, as I sit here right now, I I the program does not work if we are limited to two months, >> right? >> Yep, that makes sense.
>> I would just add for context in June. So, it looks like this year June 10th is supposed to be the last day of school. I know we've then got that five day snow day allowance. So, that would bring you to around June 17th. So, just for context there, that's the current calendar. >> Thank you. Yeah, which is not not too
big a deal at the last part of the school, but um versus the beginning. Any um thoughts on number number of concerts this year or versus last year? I mean, again, it depends on how many
people accept and >> you get booked and all that. >> Very much. I I probably did not put that as eloquently as I could have, but um yes, as as we send out our offers to invite folks to to play here and we put together our program, um we really hone
our um slate >> and there's um considerable financial uh inputs and considerations from there. how we piece together um the shows based on uh the popularity locally and who we
can pull from. So there's a lot of inputs that um would would >> not put me in the position right now to say number just curious how it how it comes together. hopefully and we we are finding this is that we have acts that
have had an outstanding experience with the guests that we bring in and with the fans from this community that we're getting some folks saying um hey uh we played there before we'd love to come back which is really nice and it's
actually a reflection of the fans and the guests that attended because I know um >> some venues aren't as uh artist friendly and because the fans aren't having as good time. So, I think that speaks very highly of poster mass. >> For sure. For sure. Good.
>> So, I just did some rough math. It looks like there's 13 weeks from June to August. So, if you had two acts a week, that would be 26 concerts. Is that roughly what you think you might I mean, last year was a big increase from the
year before, I believe. So, um, it was the first time the community was, you know, having every week a couple of concerts. So, um, you know, just trying to, you know,
we're obviously it's a it's a business that you don't know until you know. So, um >> I would anticipate that we have fewer shows um than than last year. And we are, as you know, and I I spoke with
Chris and Greg, looking at um the entire program and and how it works, its financial viability, >> number of attendees as well affects that. >> Our our attendees thankfully people are really excited to come to Deerfield and and come to shows. So, absolutely.
>> We've been really lucky that we've been attracting um we put together a slate of acts that attracts a diverse group of people to come. Um we added some country shows uh last season which was really fun. Really really popular. Um but they
they've been they've been well attended. Um I I would anticipate to have fewer shows than than last year um based on uh just kind of the financial analysis that we've done. And that's I'm thinking like the number of attendees, fewer shows,
maybe some more attendees. It it's all an equilibrium of kind of >> correct >> what makes it affordable. Yes. Um so I understand you're looking at number of people >> of shows this year to increase a bit versus and how what the logistics are. I know we're working on that on some not
the topic of tonight but just we're working on that as well with you and um it you know it's not um I think the impression is people think oh you're making a ton of money on these shows. It's not reality and it's hard
for for people to understand the cost that is outlaid in the stage and the acts and and the >> you know the personnel that need to go into it and all. So it's not a it's not a huge money maker but um >> um
>> again depending on number of people >> candidly this is not a profit center for Treehouse. This program is not >> um >> a a big driver. It is uh something that we committed when we came to this town
and and right from the uh outset said this is something that we want to do. We want to have our music and events in a robust um >> exciting community gathering place and then also be a driver for tourism and an
economic engine. And I um I'm really proud of the work that we collectively in this community has has showed up for. And um just as we are looking at how we can continue to improve with sound mitigation to be good community partners
and neighbors, um we're we're we would like to do that across the board. But you are correct. Now that we have three years under our belt, we are um taking a a fresh analysis of the program and it is very close to my heart to see this succeed. Yeah.
>> And and that's it. I've been >> Yeah. >> And thank you. That's how the reception that that we've gotten across the board. >> Yeah. >> So, I'd like to just focus more on volume and noise and and some of the the sound engineering things that um I know
Greg has expertise in this area, but we don't. So, um Jason, can you talk about um one of the things that is in the packet is flying the woofers or the subwoofers. What does
that mean and how does that help? >> Yes. So, there are several types of speakers that are used um and the subwoofers are for the low end and that's the problem. They exist in their own enclosure. Sometimes [clears throat] they're flown in the air uh from the roof of the
stage. more often there uh on the ground. Um what we did last year actually is both. There were a couple per side in the air and then the the a lot of them were clustered in the center. Up till this point we have um arrayed the system to be what is best
for the audience and that has been our have been our only real marching orders. So um there are lots of other ways to go. Uh and and that's what we're looking at now. Everything has a a cost from a >> quality perspective and it's all about timing and alignment and phase and all
these things but most people in the audience can't tell. So the the window we have to work in is what can we do uh that that helps for for sound mitigation but doesn't make it so that >> touring engineers most of the bands
every band that was a problem and I also think it's worth noting that you're talking about number of shows. Yeah. Well, if we were to do a whole bunch of shows with, you know, Judy Collins, nobody would ever know. Right. Right. Not every show is it has a lot of low end and is carrying. They did Amy Man. I'm sure you didn't get any complaints
for Amy Man for a lot of the shows. So, that's an important distinction here is, >> you know, more than trying to limit the number of shows is >> limiting the the type of shows, right? >> Um, country shows I feel like are probably on the quieter side, not as
>> impactful. I don't know. Anyway, uh to the to the tech side of it. Um now that we know what we're trying to do, we have ways that we can do that by arraying and delaying >> straight out from the stage. That's the hardest place to make it stop once it's going. >> Sure. >> Uh unfortunately, I believe one of the
houses is fairly that was complaining is fairly close, but we have we have an idea. It's just far enough offaxis that there you try and create a null point. And that's a thing we're going to we're going to work on. >> Experiment a bit. >> Yeah. So, um I don't think what we want to do is fly more subs than we did last
year. First of all, it's harder to once we do that there. It's sort of a commitment of resources that's harder to change. But what we can do is how we space them and array them on the ground uh is something that we can we can change over time. Um I do also want to
note though that you know uh temperature, humidity, weather, wind all change these things and and that's something that you know this isn't a any experimentation and change wouldn't be real time >> you know it would be over a course of a number of shows. >> When those sound engineers are are
they're using your stuff correct? >> So most of them bring their own mixing console uh they all use our speaker system. >> Okay. Do they is one of your people with them when that's when that's happening? Yes. >> Okay. And is there any chance of limiting >> uh a little bit of what they're doing
with, you know, because again, we're finding out that the opening acts aren't a problem because they're within your limits and they do very well, but the you get into the main act and it's not all the main acts, excuse me,
>> but certain ones that that just set off the vibration and we've got people that can feel it a couple miles away. >> Right. So, what I what I don't want to do is uh provide a smaller sound system that they wouldn't be able to make it as
loud as they wanted because that will damage what I send them. And this is hundreds of thousands of dollars of equipment that also has to stay there for the summer, right? >> So, we can uh add a restriction. Um the WHO restriction is one that was was
talked about. >> Yeah. Um, what I've said is my engineers would alert treehouse staff if someone was going over the limit, but I don't want my staff were supposed to be the good cop, right? >> Uh, but they would alert alert them. They would monitor and alert, right? >> Um,
>> I I think that would be a good thing to do. The problem is is um from a contract side, it has to get into the contracts otherwise there's no enforcement mechanism. Correct. >> With the artists. we you can't it's their you know it's their console we can't touch it right we can start to
turn things down it's it's a it's just bad for right everything if we don't get ahead of it >> and that's something on on our end as we're working on the contracts now um I I think the WH we've decided is a reasonable thing and then we can work
that into that's great >> um the the contracts but >> additionally we do have these acts that are bringing their own professional touring engineers >> um and there's um we we have to respect their process and and their professionalism. So I think that that is
a very um cut and dry >> clear we didn't make it up. This is the the guidance and I think that's um a standard that all acts and all sound engineers can understand. So that's something that we're going to try to
integrate into our future. >> How does um I'm going to ask you Greg, maybe you know this, maybe you don't. Um, if you don't know, maybe we could get an answer. How does that uh WHO standard compare to like um general Massachusetts noise ordinance law?
>> It's pretty much right in line with it. I mean, it it uh you know, it looks to to sort of limit the broadband level at around 90 dB, which is about what the state or basically what the state requires. Um that's usually at the
property boundary line. Um, yeah, >> I mean there, you know, it depends on what you what you read in in the statute. Um, but, >> you know, I I've always said if you're going down the road of decibel level, I
I think you're you're going to wind up >> there's so many variables in that where you measure it from. You can move 10 15 feet along the property line and get a very different reading. Um, you know, I think, um, speaking with Klondike, I got
some good information there that, you know, they do put limiters on on their equipment, which it makes, you know, I I would expect them to because they're trying to they're trying to protect their equipment. >> And those limiters are set at peak, I believe, at peak at 105, which peak at
105 does not mean that you're sending a broadband signal of 105. it means that you're keeping it probably below that 90 decibel level anyway. So my hunch is that they're, you know, within the compliance of the the state laws. I mean, it's fine to measure it and I
think that's what he's saying. It's like if you've got someone sort of metering it and you want to put it into into a contract in some way, um, you know, I think that's fine. I just think that, you know, what I found for for going
from a opening act to a the main act is often you're trying, you know, the the engineers are also trying to build energy. >> They don't want their their main act to be quieter than than their opening act. It's just kind of what they do, >> right?
>> Um and then there's also things like ear fatigue. So, someone is mixing the entire show. um you know over an hour your your ear begins to get fatigued. Sometimes the tendency is to is to bring it up a little bit in volume. Um but you know with that said I I think you know
from my perspective going to those concerts and especially the loud ones um to me they were they were mixed extremely well. um you know that's not that's not saying that that the sound is not traveling and that's why I think the
the best course of action for mitigating it is to do look at the subwoofer array um you know the way they clustered them >> this season I think you know we had a discussion to be able to do you know it may be a little more expensive but I think Treehouse is you know looking into
what that cost will be um but to be able to create those null points behind the stage and you know Nothing is going to be perfect. >> Correct. >> You know, I mean, and to his to Jason's point, >> humidity, wind is going to carry the sound. Sound travels through air.
>> Y >> and it's going to get pushed around depending on the night. Um >> and so, you know, we're I think >> the the goal is to try keep getting better at this. >> Sure. I mean, we we want this year to be really better. Um,
I went to several concerts both as a paying customer and to study sound. Um, >> okay. >> And Darkst Star Orchestra was loud one night and really bothered people on the second night. Apparently the weather conditions
were different and the same people who invited me to their house were experiencing a rather quiet evening. Um, so I understand the variability. The base, as I recall, was clustered in the middle sitting on the ground. Is that correct? >> Yes.
>> Is it possible to elevate them on feet just so that they're not flying? >> That doesn't do that doesn't >> change anything. Still transfers through the pole and goes into the ground and vibrates. >> So, you have to remember that there's somebody at mix position 80t away that is doing whatever they can to create the
sound that they want it to be where they are, right? And that's the thing that we can't really stop. So we have to So whether you if you put them up and say they're quiet or they're not doing this, they're going to change the system the way it responds to still have the same impact for them, which is then going to
translate for others. Uh yeah. So technically, if the if the subs are on the ground, it's sort of a a reflection and so they're technically twice as loud, but if you put them in the air, they're just going to turn them up to be the have the same impact. Okay. So, this is what I wanted to get at. So, they
bring their own sound engineer. My understanding is they want to mix the sound so that the band sounds the best it can sound. Are you also saying that they control volume beyond your board? >> Well, from >> they feed into your board that feeds >> No, we don't have a No. If they bring their own console, we don't have a
console. It should go straight into the amplifiers. >> Okay. So, when a night when a band brings their own console, >> you have no control. >> Uh, no. Oh, I mean we have a laptop that controls the system and we can turn things up or down, but we can't just go
I mean there So there's a contract between the artists [clears throat] and Treehouse which we're obligated to >> uh you know adhere to. >> So we can't just until there is a limit in the contract or they're going to
damage my gear. That's when all rules go out the window. But if it's not neither of those two things, they can do whatever they want and we don't go behind them and say, "Okay, >> I'm turning this up or turning this down." >> And and I I wouldn't that's I don't want us to say, "Oh, they're out there doing
whatever they want." But the reality is um we're hiring professional international touring artists. They will only play here if they can have their sound with their engineers like it's not
a >> well when you come here it has to be like this they would move on to another venue. However, what the restriction that we were discussing is >> and I don't I don't think that we want to give you a set, you know, whatever the decel level is that's on that
sounding board, but that if they can back off or they can go a little bit more with it if they're doing now, the other thing is they start sound checks. And when do they usually start those? >> I'm in the afternoon. I mean, yeah. So, I mean, this is And what are they doing
with the sound check? because I'm I get complaints from people that it's noisy even during the day. So, I was just wondering what was happening with that. >> Um I would typically sound. >> Yeah. They make sure everything works and they often rehearse songs and they run through things. Again, that is that
is something that is contractually obligated and challenging to limit. >> Yeah. And we want we want them to do >> Oh, yeah. You want them to sound good when they start before they get on there. So, I guess what I'm hearing is that there there is ways that based on this, you're thinking of
>> creating ways to try to limit the um sound travel in in certain areas that have been an issue and that's what you're going to work on. >> We're not you're not going in and saying you must be at level seven and you must mix like this because you wouldn't get banned, right? There's a lot to know on
any given night unless we got, you know, got a bat phone to everybody in the neighborhood like some cuz some nights it's not going to get over there. Sometimes the wind's going this way. So it would be very very challenging to know >> in real time how things are going. There are very large festivals who do this
sort that sort. It's a it's it's >> I mean prohibitive very expensive. if this is going to continue, you know, as you're as you're going through there, is there some other way that you could maybe set something up that would um I don't know if it' be diffuse or to
disperse the sound into different directions? And I'm thinking like maybe >> um arborvitees or something like that that just actually do it. >> No, >> low end if like the the size of those waves and like a kick drum and a bass guitar.
So, it just goes right through it. Um, high frequency is really easy. High frequency, we just point it down and that's where it goes. >> Yeah. >> Uh, it's it's the low end. >> And I think that's what people hear. And I think if you're if we take this path this year to try and zero that out in
certain spots, I think that's going to make an improvement. >> Um, it's a lot trickier than people think. It's not just like turning it down, >> right? >> Um, >> it's a science. >> It is. >> And it's contracts as well. >> It is. And o overall um we know we've
already discussed this is going to require uh additional investment on tree houses's part and and we are committed to being good neighbors and this is not you know something that we're ignoring and we've had >> good conversations and we are taking
this seriously and are going to make our absolute best efforts to mitigate um these noise challenges for our neighbors. >> Great. So couple of other things. Uh Jason, you don't have anything to do with the stage itself. You're the sound
engineer. You >> We provide the We provide the audio and the lighting. We don't provide the stage. >> And so you also have to contract with a stage company that sets up the stage. >> Correct. >> And you probably work with a lot of these businesses, Jason. You probably set up equipment on >> Yes. [clears throat] >> Um
one of the things that we talked about, I think last year with Allison, was um trying to get some sound dampening in the back. uh cloth or whatever, but as she explained it to us last year, what they were able to do,
if you get too dense, you have problems with wind, etc. So, I mean, I don't know what the technology is. Do you have um >> that like putting up um additional >> so it's be a rather So, the backdrop that's that's there uh that we used is
is uh perforated >> so that it can withstand more wind, >> right? um you know as a temporary structure with temporary ballast and needing stamped engineering drawings the limitations of what you can hang from it are are >> correct >> much lower than what you can do from a
permanent structure >> um and uh you know I think they could they could look at putting something solid like solid vinyl which again wouldn't help with the low end but it would but actually it would help with some of the sound going backwards >> uh they could look at that but there
would have to be there would be a lot of stipulations at at 20 mph gust of wind has to come down at this. So >> it's not like a building that you're building. >> It's not I don't believe that that >> So again, because I'm ignorant with this is could they do a backdrop that would
like say the lower half be that vinyl and the top half be the mesh liner or whatever you had in there because you're talking about the vibration is coming low and you really don't need to block the high end of that thing. So you could have wind going through there. I'm just
>> Yeah, none of it's gonna That wouldn't uh >> Oh, >> that wouldn't affect the >> the subwoofers. >> It wouldn't. >> But it gave me an idea. I'm not going to bore you with the physics right now, but I got I've got an idea cuz they use these giant ballast things of water
ballast. And when I toured in in Europe, there was one uh venue in a very affluent neighborhood in Germany on a lake and they get government funding. So, they had lined like the entire venue with those giant things of water like three high uh to try and keep the sound
from going out over the lake. >> Is this where I say Trios does not have something? >> They use those. They [laughter] use those under the stage for for ballast. And I'm wondering if I can ask the staging company if they can >> more strategically place them
>> in order to be behind the subwoofer. >> Yeah. >> Again, it's all engineering. They have to be in a certain thing. But I mean, >> whatever you can do to kind of >> mass mass is what stops low end, right? Lots and lots of mass. Use two layer. That's right. Drywall, two layers of drywall in a room will help, you know,
uh, >> yep. >> Deaden a room. So, I'll >> I'll explore that. >> We appreciate anything you thinking of setting up the speakers and that kind of thing to to recognize that it's kind of like it's there's certain spots that are really the issue.
>> Yeah. It was really uh good of Jason to be here today. Also, we we have kind of the team >> that is um >> contributors and collaborators to the summer stage program as it is and they work closely um together. I mean, we've
met with talent and sound and stage. Um, so they have a pretty good working relationship and the this is an exchange of ideas, but ultimately what we're trying to demonstrate is here is we're not like this is going to be like last year like we hear you and we are going
to creative come up with creative solutions to >> I mean my shop is five minutes from here. So I'm I'm >> you're part of this community as well. >> Yeah. >> So before we let you go, I think some audience members may have some questions for you guys. questions or want to read
comments, right? You had on this topic. Do you want to say anything or did you want to >> actually have a prepared statement from 21 neighbors? >> You're welcome to read it. You want Yeah. Yeah. Let them come up and >> Yeah. Before we move on for the evening,
>> addressing Sure. State your name and speak into the mic. You're good to go. >> Okay. Is this good? >> That's wonderful. Thank you. Excellent. Um, so good evening members of the select board, town officials, and guests. My name is Vincent Russo, and I
reside at Five Hillside, and I'm here this evening after having discussions with our neighborhood group, which consists of 21 concerned Deerfield residents to discuss an issue that we feel is of critical importance to our community's quality of life. the
excessive noise impacts that we experienced last year due to outdoor amplified events. Uh many of the people wanted to be here tonight but have conflicts with this general time. Um everything from illness to school age
children. So you're kind of stuck with me. >> It's fine. Welcome to >> our collective concerns centers on the disproportionate and significant negative impacts we've been subjected to with the current arrangement for outdoor
events and concerts. We fully support Treehouse Brewing Company's success as a valuable contributor to our town's economy and community. However, the success cannot come at the expense of the residents fundamental right to enjoy
peace and well-being in their own homes. For too long, the current noise levels have severely impacted the quality of life, health, and ability to use our properties of specific residences. We believe that a thriving business and a
peaceful residential neighborhood can coexist provided there are clear enforcable and effective boundaries in place. Currently, we face a lack of an effective system for monitoring, enforcement, and resolution, which
leaves us feeling unheard and unprotected. And on a personal note, I think that's the biggest stumbling block is the residents feeling like they're not being included or heard. Our objective is to move beyond voluntary adjustments and establish
official restrictions and performance parameters that include robust third-party monitoring and a clear path to real time resolution and accountability. I'm here not just to complain, but to present actionable solutions discussed
in our neighborhood group that the select board and town can endorse to protect our homes. To this end, we respectfully submit eight specific actionable suggestions for your consideration which we believe will allow Treehouse to be successful,
responsible, and an empathetic neighbor. Um, in the interest of time, I don't think you want me to read all >> You can leave them for the record, too. Yeah. >> Okay. Awesome. I do have extra copies. Thank you. >> Um, I'm sorry. You said you say leave them or read them.
>> Whatever you'd like to do. Yeah. You you you're welcome to do both. We need we need you to leave them for sure. >> Definitely. Okay. So, uh number one, independent sound management. Mandate the engagement and these aren't hard and fast. These are our ideas. >> Fine.
>> Uh ma mandate the engagement of independent professional acoustic engineers to monitor concert volume and frequency output for the full duration of outside events. The firm must be empowered to make immediate real-time adjustments to maintain acceptable
community standards and mitigate low frequency noise and vibrations when there's are in receipt of verified complaints. On-site impact verification. Establish a formal list of impacted neighbors who
volunteer to provide access to sound engineers for firsthand onpropy sound level observations and recordings during these events. Three, acoustic infrastructure investment require the construction of something like a full sound absorbing
per performance stage or band stand designed not only to mitigate neighborhood sound bleed out but also to enhance the auditory experience for the concert attendees. Four, property line acoustic mitigation. Implement additional acoustic
soundabsorbing barriers or paneling along the perimeter of the property most proximate to residential areas to further contain sound propagation. Five, event moratorum for resolution. institute a moratorum on any increase in
the number or scale of concerts or outside events until existing noise impacts are resolved to the verifiable satisfaction of the neighboring residents and the town. Six, firm curfew enforcement. Institute a strictly
enforced firm 10 p.m. cutoff time for amplified music and outdoor activities, especially on school nights. Seven, real time complaint and resolution system. We would like to have a uh have created a dedicated real-time system either in
addition to or in place of calling the non-emergency police line for registering noise complaints during the event. This system should include a mechanism for inevent resolution when a reasonable number of complaints or a
complaint threshold has been reached. Eight, accountability and conflict resolution. Establish a formal system for conflict resolution and accountability that clearly defines consequences for verified violations and/or repeated offenses. [snorts] We
are committed to engaging in continued collaborative discussions with the select board and Treehouse Brewing Company to achieve a solution that preserves our neighbors homes enjoyment and health while ensuring the company's continued success. We sincerely hope
that the select board will prioritize the well-being of its residents in this matter. Thank you for your time and serious consideration of this important community issue. And um on a personal note, my husband and I love going to Treehouse where we're patrons of it. Um
and the one negative thing I would have to say is apparently their pizza is better than mine. [laughter] >> I'd have to agree. Although I haven't tried yours, all I know is the fantastic pizza. >> Great. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you for your comment. Yeah. And
leave a copy to Greg. >> Yeah. And we can provide a copy for Treehouse as well, just to make sure. >> Any other any other comments? Please come on up. [snorts] Welcome. >> Hello. Thank you for having me. I'm Rod
Patton from Five Gromakia. So, I'm at the other end of uh Vincent's problem and we're having the same issue with noise down our way. I don't know if it's bouncing off Mount Sugarloaf or my bedroom is actually on the west side of
my house and it keeps me awake. Um it is very loud. I appreciate having a great business like Treehouse in town and doing so well and attracting so many people to our community. Um, my past experiences working in law enforcement, as Blake
knows. Um, as a police officer on duty, if we get a call for a loud noise disturbance, we go if it's a loud party. If it's a private residence, you tell the people to quiet down. If you have to go back a second time, you shut them down. And that's what we used to do is
disperse the parties. So in reality, what you're doing is giving them a license to break the law if the sound is too loud and it affects everybody and complaints are coming in. We really don't have a recourse on what
to do other than a hearing like this. Mhm. >> So, I'm glad to see that everybody's trying to work on it and um I do want to see success there and have them in town, but also have them respect the rest of
the town that's not involved with their concerts. >> Mhm. >> So, that's all I wanted to say. I'm at, like I say, the other end of town and we're still having the same problem they are on Hillside. So, >> thank you. Thank you for your comment. >> Thank you. Any others before we wrap up?
Yeah, come on up. >> Welcome. >> Good evening. >> Good evening. Good to see you. >> Yeah. I don't know if I'm happy to be back, but here I am. >> We're happy you're here. We're very happy you're here. >> Uh Matt Tuttle, one We Road. Um, I think
we heard some good things from Treehouse and that they're attempting to be responsive to our concerns, but I'd like to point out that we heard the same thing from them at the last meeting, that they were committed to addressing the noise complaints, that they weren't going to increase the frequency of
shows. In fact, I think Sarah said the same thing last spring and the frequency increased by what, eight or nine concerts in the 2025 season. Uh, so I think it would be great if there was
some restrictions or some oversight by the select board on this process. I understand that they want to make money, but that's not my problem. It's not my problem to have in my house. Um, and I don't think uh that the town should just allow them
to do whatever they want. So, >> thank you for your comment. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Have a good night. >> Any other comments? >> Do I have to raise my hand? I wasn't sure how this works. >> Oh, yes, you do. Online so we could see
you, but yeah, go ahead. >> Um, >> there you go. >> So, Monique Monnique Canyon. So my I just want to clarify because I really wasn't completely sure. So the number of concerts
is there is no current limit and it doesn't look like they have any sense that of how many they're going to actually have. Is that correct? >> They they believe they'll have less than last year, but no, there isn't. And they also if I understood the
information from the engineer there about the volume that there is no limit to the volume like when the their sound engineers come they they can put it up as high as they want. Am I right in understanding that?
>> Yes. >> No. >> Yes. Well, they can't >> because I mean to the limitations of the >> Please, this is important. >> People need to understand this. >> Uh the the system's limited by how loud
it will get, which um I still I think is within the WHO limits. We did some math on that. Uh I'm not exactly sure, but it it doesn't it can't be, you know, it's not as loud as Metallica. It won't get it just won't get that loud.
>> Okay. I was confused because it sounded like you were saying that the [clears throat] the engineers that they bring that they wouldn't they would want to keep it louder if we raise the speakers or the amps, whatever they are. I'm sorry. I don't know. But I just
wanted to understand better because it sounded to me like they were just going to increase the sound to make it still feel the same way as if they were on the ground. Did I not understand that correctly?
So the artist the artist engineer are looking for a certain effect looking to have it sound a certain way but there's a limiter there are limiters on our equipment to protect it from breaking that is uh actually reasonable. I mean one thing is the audio system
that we bring in there is frequently less than what the artists engineers are asking for and look for and we tell them that this is what it is and this covers the space very well. We we actually it's it's it's quite small to be honest. Um
and and is limited by its size and it's also limited electronically. And that is a point sorry we probably should have mentioned when we were talking about the control that we have over these professional tourism art tourists um
touring artists is that they do come in and they say you know we want this grand thing because we are attracting acts that have go you know sell out 10,000 person shows right >> but we have designed this system to accommodate the space that is here in so
it what many of them are used to and they don't have the ability to just jack it up and destroy Klondike. >> So just just to use round numbers I'm not saying these are the numbers that you would use. We'll use 100 for an easy number. Okay, you have a limiter. It's
limited to 100 dB. Otherwise, it's going to blow out the subwoofer. And so I mean you you're protecting your equipment. So no matter what they do, it's going to be limited by what can go through the board and come out the speaker. >> Correct. Okay. >> Um, I should also say that the the
system is modest enough that uh I don't you probably don't even know this, but there was an offer out and they came back to us for for next year and they came back to us and said, you know, uh, that PA is not big enough and they they didn't take the offer. So there are
business repercussions to to to this all right. >> And we need to find that happy medium. It is a business, you know, it so so that act just doesn't function in this neighborhood. >> Yeah. and and we understood that they decided not to play our our venue. It's
not like we were going to beef it up for this one artist. But I guess just to reinforce this system is um >> designed for this space and we are going to continue to improve it again right
this year and make some investments >> um for those improvements and those investments are not >> bigger and and uh louder. Correct. >> Trevor, I can I can I can explain the So, when there's a limiter on a system,
what it does is it uh it compresses the the audio signal. So, compression is a is it can can often make it seem like the well, it actually does kind of u narrow the bandwidth of the overall
amplitude. So what happens is it can actually bring up the floor of the low frequ uh the lower decibel levels. So it can um try to explain this in the simplest terms I can. Um what it does is
it it will cut off the the peaks that are over let's say uh usually they have a cut off. They don't want to square off the the wave because that will wreck their equipment. >> Right. >> Right. because a a a subwoofer, any woofer cannot recreate a square wave, >> right?
>> And so what that does is that's that will create distortion and that tends to uh to diminish the the equipment over time and it can blow your you know your your highs, your lows, your mids. And so what it does is it it compresses that
signal down below that threshold. So it's not going to get above, you know, 105. Does that mean that it can't on average creep up to 90 dB? It can't. >> On the average. Um, but
when you're you have professional uh mixing engineers, they want it to have a certain amount of dynamic range in there. That's why I said, you know, it's it's probably very rare, if ever, when you have set a threshold of limiting to
compress it down underneath 105 dB that your average is going to be consistently over 90 dB because what's going to happen is you're pushing up the low decibel range so great that you wind up with very limited amount of dynamic
range, right? So your your your soft periods sound loud. Everything sounds loud and that's not how good engineers mix. They would like to have a certain amount of decel range so that the music can breathe. >> Right? >> So and the other thing I you know I just
want to point out because I my part of why I'm here I just think is to help educate because I've used to teach this stuff. Um and the other thing is when we talk about noise, noise is not really what people are experiencing. Noise is a very specific thing. It's white pink
noise and it's all basically frequency sounding at the same decibel level. It's usually what you get with industry and you know machinery. Um and that's where you get noise. What we're talking about is sound mitigation and and specifically low frequencies, >> right? >> So,
>> and helping to kind of find those null areas. >> Yeah. And that and that I think is probably the the the most effective way is to >> to work with these arrays especially in the subwoofer arrays to to find those null points. So you know I I really did
appreciate Klondike had you know some some documents that uh sort of helped out with that. So, um, you know, I'm >> optimistic that they can at least help help it, uh, in the next season, you
know, and I'm I'm happy to be a listener as well. So, yeah. >> Any uh last comments before we move on for the evening? Okay. Well, thank you very much. Appreciate you coming. Continue the conversation
down. >> Yes. And I just want to let everybody know who came to, you know, give us your input, the treehouse license not going to be approved tonight. So, just so you know, we're taking your concerns into consideration. We're going to be
continuing to work with Treehouse and they're going to show us more information and we're going to come to an iteration that allows this season to be an experimental improvement on the experience for the community. >> [snorts]
>> So, we will be approving a lot of other licenses tonight, but not this one. >> Yep. >> All right. Thank you again. Um, so we have got a pile of annual renewals um for 2026.
I'm going to make some motions and I'll read for a while. So, I move the select board approve the renewal of all licenses for the 2025 licensing year as listed in the in the 2026 Select board annual renewals, right?
Yeah, I think 2026 annual renewals. Um summary including this is the common uh victular license for uh Birkshshire Brewing Company, Deerfield Inn, Food for Strength/ Leo's Table, Giani Figs
Restaurante LLC, um Treehouse Brewing Company, Wolfies Restaurant, Zach's uh Barbecue, then the funeral director license for Rristley Funeral Home, class 2 dealer license,
for Richards Automotive, GMG Enterprises, K Dog Auto Sales, Deerfield Motor Equip, Motors and Equipment, Class 3 dealer license for East Deerfield Autorecking. Home business renewals for Deerfield
Healing Arts, Deerfield Therapeutic Massage, and Salon 68. Entertainment yearly licenses for Hotel Warren. Uh, the Tavern Sports Bar LLC, the Yankee Candle Company, Inc.,
including live music and face painting. Annual non resident auctioneer licenses for Catamount uh, auction company LLC New England Auctioneer as detailed in the official renewal list on file with
the town administrator's office. I have a second. >> Second. >> Any further discussion or questions? All those in favor? >> Blake Gilmore I. >> Tim Elchi I. >> Trevor McDaniel I. Um, okay. So, um, and we'll sign all
these after. I'll hold everybody up. Uh, I move the select board in our capacity as the board of health for the 2026 licensing year as listed in the board of health annual renewals for 2026 summary including uh food service licenses for
uh bamboo Asian cuisine school inc Birkshire Brewing Company food trucks or other um Bittersweet Bakery and Cafe Wayneo Champ Restaurant and Tavern Chzlick's Market LLC D,
Circle K, Massachusetts, LLC, DBA, Circle K4707509, CK Sandwich Sandwiches, uh, DBA Subway, Conway Road Neighbors, Cumberland Farms, number 6763, CY KJ, Inc., DBA Golden China, the
excuse me, the new uh Golden China, Deerfield Convenience Store, U H&M Brothers, Deerfield uh Elementary School, Eaglebrook School, Food for Strength LLC, DBA, Leo's Table, Frontier Regional
School, Giani Figs LLC, Holiday Pizza, JKBC LLC, DBA, Hillside Pizza, Kelly's Farm Store LLC, DBA DBA Atlas Farm Store. Mike's snack shack. >> Can we hold on this, >> please?
>> I think we need to change DBA Atlas Farm Store to Long River Produce Market. >> Chili's Farm Store. >> Have they officially >> Yeah. So, as far as I know, they still in their application for renewal listed Atlas Farms, but I did notice that was
different from what's been in the news. Certainly. >> Can we check with them because I know there was some there might have been >> there was some contention between Atlas Farm and Atlas Farm Store about this. So, just check with Kelly. >> Well, the name has also changed on the sign, hasn't it?
>> Right. Yes. I mean, it's >> But they may not have had time to go to the lawyer, but I just want to know where that is. >> Sure. Yep. >> Okay. Uh M um Motera Farm, Inc. A Holio Pickle Guy, Old Deerfield Country Store,
um $100 retail fee. Um, Picarski Sausage LLC, Polish American Citizens Club, Richardson's Candy Kitchen, South Deerfield Pizzeria, formerly Primo, The Walk, uh, the three, um, Yankee Candle
Company, Inc., Ben & Jerry's, Yankee Candle Company, Inc., Bulk Candy Kiosk, Yankee Candle Company, Inc., Fudge Shop, Yankee Candle Company Inc., Uh, New England Market Cafe, Treehouse Brewing Company, trustees of the Deerfield
Academy Dining Hall, trustees of Deerfield Academy, Greer Store, trustees at Deerfield Academy, Lewis Cafe, Williams Farm Sugar House, Whiskey Sids, Wolfiey's Restaurant, a Yankee Donuts, Dunkin Donuts, One Greenfield Road,
Zach's Barbecue, and Kelly Kousnik, uh, Condo Bakery Lady with the Home Kitchen, if applicable. Um, tobacco sales license for Circle K Massachusetts LLC, DBA Circle K4707509,
Cumberland Farms number 6763, Deerfield Convenience Store, H&M Brothers, Deerfield Spirit Shop, Deerfield River Liquors, and Conway Road Neighbors. Um, may I uh, let's see. So, I'm going to keep rolling here. Um, indoor ice
rink licenses for Eaglebrook School and Deerfield Academy. Swimming pool licenses for Eaglebrook School, Deerfield Academy, limit 25. Deerfield Academy limit 75. Fement school for summer camp pool. Hotel in uh hotel motor uh motel and in licenses for
historic Deerfield, Inc. Uh, Deerfield Inn, Red Roof Inn, plus um, OFAL, Septage, OAL Hauler, licenses for, uh, Bossley Sanitary Services, Inc., uh, GMG
Enterprises, Carl Sight Work, uh, River Drive Escavating, Inc., Parker Portables LLC trash haulers licenses for Dave Wickles Trucking, Goulay Trucking, J Berninski Landscaping and Excavation LLC, Republic Services, USA Waste and
Recycling, Inc. and Pioneer Valley Waste Solutions as detailed in the official renewal list on file with the Town Administrator's Office. May I have a second? >> Second. Any further discussion? I guess we'll just kind of confirm the we'll
approve this. Just confirming the name for for the Atlas uh farm store. All those in favor? >> Blake Gilmore. I >> Tim LG I. >> Trevor McDaniel I. So >> well read. >> All read.
>> Nice. Well read. >> Oh, thank you. Yes. Thank you very much. Um so we I think we are good to go. Uh any correspondence? We have a couple of letters that came in from about the treehouse. Um, and it was their comments
are are very similar to ones today. Um, one from Laura on at one Hillside Road and another from Kurt Harris on Grave Street. Um, you know, very similar comments to to the other members of the of the audience who who had um
who had made comments today. So, um, they they're in the record as well. We'll be in the minutes. Um, I guess that's Do you guys want to hit on anything before we go and then we'll we'll sign these. Just I
don't want to keep everybody if we're signing. So, >> no, just wanted to to give everyone a reminder. So, next week on the 10th, we do have our tax classification hearing at 5:30 on Wednesday. Um, so just a just a reminder for everyone on that.
>> So the 10th 5:30. >> Yes. You had it at 7 for some reason. >> We we had kind of gone back and forth with time. So >> got it. >> Wanted to make sure we confirmed. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. >> Um and then uh you know the also personnel board is going to be doing
their uh regular class comp um meeting on uh December 15th. So that's a Monday at 6 p.m. that that meeting is always virtual. Um so it'll be posted and um it's gone out also with u uh paychecks.
So employees should be aware as well. >> Great. Um I've got a board of oversight meeting for the South County Senior Center tomorrow at um let's see at 5:00. So believe it's five o'clock. Anybody wants to join that? Um I think that's
it. >> What's it for? >> Uh board of oversight. Just a >> first SS. >> Uh yes, for South County Senior Center. Yep. Have Have you had a SKIMS meeting recently or where are you at? >> Keep trying to schedule one, I think. Okay. Scheduled
>> for next week. Let's see. >> And they've got approval for the ambulance. I think all three towns proved that. So, that's good to go. >> Um there is lumber at the 1888 building site. So, that is an indication they're going to start framing the new building soon. >> Great. Um I don't know what the uh most
recent Did you have a meeting yesterday or >> Yeah, we had a quick Zoom on on Monday or excuse me on Tuesday. Um and they did uh they did include I I think that they were going to be doing that in the next few weeks. Yep. >> We had u
called together the band and had a had a town common committee meeting uh last week or so and that was really good to see everybody and kind of keep moving forward. Um, I did see your email, Christopher, and I I am on them about uh the DPC about getting us Sugarloaf Park
Street info and they were going to get a Sugarloaf Park Conway to the railroad u and then Elm Street as well uh for that work. Just I said these things are the most important and please as soon as possible. So, um we'll we'll keep on
that and get you back back some information as soon as we can. That's it. Um, anything else? All those in favor or a motion to adjurnn. >> One final thing I did notice. Um, I went by both the Liry lot and the library
today after the first significant snowfall and those sites are being handled by an contractor that Matthew Morris set up. I think in the main um well the the library lot looks great.
Uh the Liry lot looked very much better than it did last year. The sidewalks are actually cleared. So um I think we're moving in the right direction there. >> That's great. Deal. Um okay. So I'll entertain a motion to
adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> Blake Gilmore. I Tim Hilgi. >> Trevor McDaniel. I thank you all very much for attending. [music] Have a good night.