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I'd like to welcome you to the Delanco Township Committee meeting of June 15th, 2026. Can I have a roll call, please? >> Mr. Bartlett. >> Here. >> Mr. McBeth. >> Here. >> Mr. O'Leary. >> Here. >> Ms. Zeus. >> Here. >> Ms. [clears throat] Fitzpatrick.

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>> Here. Also present, Ms. Seminara, our Township Administrator, Mr. Heinhold, our Township Solicitor, Mr. Fox, our Township Engineer, Mrs. Russell, our Municipal Clerk, Mrs. Hart, our Deputy Municipal Clerk, Mr. Fanamore,

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Superintendent of Public Works, and Mr. Warren, our Police Chief. Please join me in the flag salute. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Uh Beth, would you please read the sunshine statement? >> Please be advised the proper notice of this meeting has been given in compliance with the Open Public Meetings Act in the following manner. Written

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notice has been mailed to the Burlington County Times and Courier Post and published in the December 28th, 2025 editions. Written notice has been posted on the official bulletin board of the Township of Delanco at least 48 hours prior to the meeting. Live stream statement. This meeting of the Delanco Township Committee may be

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transmitted through the live stream on YouTube video. The streaming of the meeting is not intended to be relied upon as formal public access under the Open Public Meetings Act, and if the technology is disrupted for any reason, the Township meeting will proceed in person as an official meeting in accord with the official minutes. Please

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silence your cell phones and refer to the rules governing public comment attached to this agenda. >> Thank you, Beth. Uh the first uh item on our agenda tonight is ordinance 2026-8

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amending chapter 240 governing sidewalk and curb repair. This is the second reading by title only and public hearing. So, the hearing is now open to the public regarding ordinance 202608. It's open to the public. >> Uh Harold Klingler, 509 Buttonwood

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Street. Um I did have a question about this before and I I kind of forgot forgot about it. But But now I was wondering this is for sidewalk and curb repair, right? Um

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How I was just wondering how do you determine whose sidewalk and whose curb gets repaired? >> Ha I don't understand your question. You mean when we when we're redoing a street or something? I would let Harry address that. It depends on money and what needs repaired. It depends on money and what

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needs repaired. It depends on money and what needs repaired. It depends on money and what needs repaired. to be repaired. >> If it's a patch of road job, capital project, um if you have to change the curb uh and or sidewalk due to drain drainage issues, generally that's the

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main reason. Um otherwise, we we try to stay away from doing sidewalks um unless street trees cause the damage. Uh the type of street tree that we generally replace replace that.

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But uh we we only replace it if needed with a design to work properly. >> So, this is like small small stuff. It's not really like like a whole street of cuz I noticed the like a the street I don't know the name of the street.

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That's the next one after Ash Street. >> What what >> over by the church. >> Union. >> Oh, Union. >> That that whole couple years back, that whole street all the sidewalks and all the curbs got were brand new.

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And I was kind of wondering, well, jeez, do you get do you like go for a lottery or something? Do you have a lottery and who wins and who gets the sidewalk? >> No, it's not like that. I think a lot of it has to do with the if if you're receiving a grant, what the grant

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actually covers because at one time there were grants that did cover replacing sidewalks and curbs if needed. And I can remember doing a whole street with the sidewalk and the curb, but it's

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very rare now. >> Yeah, and it's >> Yeah, it's very very rare that we >> Yeah, it's not something that's typical, so each each property owner that's fronting the the sidewalk has responsibility under the state law and under our ordinance. >> Right. I I

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>> And this ordinance is just about broadening the ways that those replacements can occur. >> Right, to include pavers. And I know that if they're redoing a street and if you have a an issue with

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your curb or your sidewalk, you can make arrangements with the contractor. I think it's to have that done at the same time, Harry, can't they? And but it would be additional expense. It would be an expense to you not to >> Oh, I I understand it now cuz I did

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I did my whole one side. >> I know, I can see that. It was nice. >> Street. And uh at one time I did the whole side. That's when it was reasonable. >> Right. >> At that time. It's not reasonable no more. And boy, I'd love to have the front done to match it, but

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I was just wondering, you know, maybe you put your name in a hat or something like that. >> No. >> No. Okay. All right, thank you. >> You're welcome. Anyone else? Regarding this ordinance? I'll close this portion to the public and ask for a motion from the Township

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Committee for ordinance 2026-8. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Roll call, please. >> Mr. Bartlett. >> Yes. >> Mr. McDavid. >> Yes. >> Mr. O'Leary. >> Yes. >> Ms. Zeus. >> Yes. >> Ms. Fitzpatrick. >> Yes.

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>> Uh at this time, uh we're going to have a presentation on 401 Creek Road from uh Fort Washington regarding a redevelopment proposal for Lennar Corporation. Welcome. >> Duncan, do you want me to say just few words first?

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>> going to say hi and ask you to do an introduction. >> I will, absolutely. So, just real quick, um I think if you live in Delanco, you probably uh everybody knows about 401 Creek and it's uh significant history in terms of what we've been through over the last year or so.

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Um we are at a point now where with ownership, as discussed when we went through the process, the intent was always to return it back to the market with a use that uh would not create the same concerns and issues that we were concerned about

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relative to the prior industrial use. Um we put that into a request for proposal process. We received two proposals. Of those two proposals, Lennar, who is uh represented by Duncan Prime tonight

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and has other representatives here, uh was by far the best proposal we received. We had significant discussion with them over the last couple of months about what they propose, what we need to get out of the project, what they need to get out of the project to make it

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work. Redevelopment is a partnership. Um we have flexibility under the redevelopment authority process under the state statute to uh design uh our zoning to fit the needs of the community and and fit the needs to make

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the redevelopment work. Um so, we are at the point now where we're uh proposing to enter into what's called of a a letter of intent. That is basically uh we're agreeing that we're going to focus on working with each other to try and enter into a formal redevelopment

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agreement. The letter of intent has some key elements to it um that again both parties have identified as important to the transaction. And we've asked Lennar to come here and just do a very brief big picture

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overview of what the project is that the public has a sense of what's being proposed for the site. >> Thank you, Doug. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Arnold. >> Madam Mayor, members of the committee, my name uh as Doug indicated is Duncan Prime um from the firm of Prime Tuvel

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and Miceli. I represent US Home LLC which is another fancy name for Lennar doing business as Lennar uh in connection with the 401 Creek Road redevelopment. Uh Mr. Reinhold did an excellent overview of the process and why we're here. Um

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before I turn it over to my Lennar team, I want to first thank the committee for the opportunity to be here tonight. Uh we're excited. I want to thank Mr. Reinhold, the township staff um for their time and energy this spring. Uh as Doug indicated, we met several times um

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both in person, over the phone, on Zoom, um every forum available we used to try and work out what you see in front of you tonight, which is a a brief letter of intent, but hopefully that is a start of a much longer process um which leads to a redevelopment agreement and

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hopefully a contract of sale. Um two quick points before I turn it over. First, I think it's important um my client and I applaud them for it. They chose a local team here, a South Jersey based team. I think everyone's familiar with Bob Stout. Um Bob's worked

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in the county for I don't want to put the the time frame on it Bob, but several years. Let's leave it there. I've worked here my entire career. They chose an architectural firm from Medford. Obviously extensive experience in the county and I think that'll serve this project and the relationship with the

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town well. Secondly, the redevelopment plan and the RFP itself, it was done by the town. And we came in and we tried to meet the spirit of that and I think what you're going to see tonight, we're not asking to rezone or or have a re-engineer or redo an idea on this property. I think

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it's something that the town was looking for and we came in and tried to fill that need. So with that, I'd like to introduce Wayne Birchler. Wayne's the entitlements manager from Lennar. He's going to go into a a more high-level presentation of who Lennar is, little bit of background on

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the company and what we're proposing to do here tonight. So Wayne, let's get you introduced. Obviously not a formal proceeding, we don't need to swear you or anything. >> Sit it up here. Yeah. >> Maybe >> Wayne, can you turn have it turned so >> Yeah. Maybe it would be

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Maybe it would be better in the corner where it was so that the public can see it as well, Bob. Uh yeah, and then we can see it too. >> [clears throat] >> And I think the committee can see this in their dreams. >> Yeah, we have. Yeah, oh okay. Okay. Well, we have a hand mic. Don't we have a hand mic?

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Uh we have a hand mic that you can use. >> Uh sure, that'd be great. >> Yeah. >> What One of the benefits of being me, I can be loud no matter where I am. Um So thanks, Doug. And thanks, Duncan for the introduction introduction. All

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right, thanks. See you. Um [laughter] now they took care of a lot of the heavy lifting. My name is Wayne Birchler. I've been with Lennar for 13 years. I work in our due diligence and entitlements departments. I'm a Drexel University graduate 2001

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and a licensed professional civil engineer in water resources since 2005. As Duncan stated, we're really excited to be here. We're really excited to create a marriage and a partnership with Delanco and we're really looking forward to the

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possibility and hope of bringing a great active adult community to the township. Lennar was founded in 1954, a family-owned business in the state of Florida. We are currently headquartered in Miami.

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We have our local division where I'm stated at is at 24 or house that is 2465 Kuser Road in Hamilton, New Jersey, Mercer County. We've been on the New York Stock Exchange for since 1972,

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Fortune 500 company and as I stated earlier, I've been with Lennar for 13 years. This was the first year that we were voted as one of the best places to work in the country and I'm very happy for that, probably more than any of our accomplishments. Um

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we build homes in 29 states, 79 markets. We're the second largest home builder in the USA. We built over 26,000 homes across the country in 2025 and we plan to stay there and hopefully exceed that in 2026 and beyond.

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Locally, we are the number one home builder in this market. Our market, I call our market New Jersey and New York. Our responsibility or our current projects range from Tuxedo, New York all the way to Hamilton, New Jersey in Atlantic County.

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I generally stay Mercer, Middlesex, Monmouth and South Jersey and we have a whole other group of people that work everything north of that and into New York City and beyond. Um, live in Atlantic County so I don't want to drive uh, 6 hours round trip

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every [laughter] day to anything we got going on up in New York. Uh, I won't get anything done even with the proclivity of Zoom and all the other stuff we have available to us. Um, as I said, we're the number one home builder in this market. We built over 900 homes in 2025. We're going to be

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very close and we have a goal of trying to eclipse a thousand uh, for 2026. We're right on that number, like 989's the number, so if we have 11 excited buyers in here tonight, maybe we could figure out a way to get to a thousand. If not, we'll get there next year.

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Um, we're experienced in the RFP and redevelopment process. Uh, currently we're building our third project through redevelopment and RFP on the uh, Fort Monmouth, the old Fort Monmouth base in Monmouth County, uh, in conjunction with the Fort Monmouth uh, Economic Redevelopment

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Authority. Uh, this excuse [clears throat] me, this current project or the third project that's under uh, horizontal or land development activities is located at Hope and Pine Brook Road. Uh, there's 275 homes within that community. Uh, it was huge undertaking.

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There was 50 old remaining army army barracks from that base uh, that we've demolished. Maybe 50% of them, 60% of them at this point. Uh, we work cooperatively with New Jersey American Water uh, to uh, I don't want to say help them, but uh, subdivided the piece of the

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property off for the benefit of them to build a water tank uh, that was needed in the in the municipality. So, we're very familiar with working with cooperative agencies, uh, municipal government, etc., etc. in making something like this become a reality. Um, so from here on out, that's a lot of

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the Lennar stuff. A lot of this stuff will be a lot of the stuff that's in the RFP uh, that we submitted, but for the general public, uh, you know, we're block 2100, lot 11. It's a little under 12 acres known as 401 Creek Road. Uh, to orient us, uh, it's Pennington Park and

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the Field of Dreams baseball field. Uh to our one side, it's Pennington Court and generally residential to our other and the Rancocas Creek behind us. And obviously Creek Road along our frontage with the New Jersey Motor Vehicle Commission immediately across the street. So, those are our site

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characteristics and and what you could see here is existing uh I would define it as light and medium-grade industrial use on the property. Now unoccupied. Uh and all that stuff uh will be and and some

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uh some trees, some wetlands. Um all of that will be part and parcel to the site plan that we're going to flip through next. So, this is our conceptual plan. Um I call it a concept because for those of you that have worked in the business

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uh in your in your life in your career, you'll know that everything is conceptual until you start dealing with DEP and you establish your wetlands lines, uh your letter of interpretation, all your wetlands permitting, uh and in additional bulk bulk zoning and zoning requirements.

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Um so, those are all the key components in determining something like this uh into final and that's, you know, I don't want to say a long way down the road, but it takes a process, right? And tonight we're here for really what I would define as the second step of the process with a whole lot more steps to go.

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Um but we have proposed 64 active adult townhomes here. Uh so, market rate active adult townhomes, no school-age children within the community. Uh we're served by public water and sewer. Uh limit I keep tripping over this

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thing. Limited roadway network. Um we're we're conscious. We It sounds silly. We're in the we're in the notion of developing properties, right? But we do try to be environmentally conscious as we can when we can. Um my experience before uh

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uh behind after graduating college, I worked for Pennoni Associates for a short clip. Then I went to work for the state in New Jersey and the federal government. I did a lot of land conservation for agricultural uses, believe it or not. And now I'm on to uh

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housing development. Um so, I try where I can and where my company will allow me to be to be as successful as we can in in limiting things like storm uh stormwater management impacts and things like that. And one of the thing ways you do that is reduce your impervious

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coverage, reduce your roadways, uh increase your landscaping wherever you can. Um obviously, there's a goal to achieve. It has to be financially viable for something to become successful, but we try to look at everything as we're developing our plan. Um so, here uh and and emergency

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services and emergency access, you don't want Sometimes you have one way in a community, it's always more beneficial if you could plan to have multiple ways in and out of the community. It's easier for access, it's easier for uh for for movement, it's easier for circulation. So, here we have two accesses out to

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Creek Road and one kind of mid-block uh road bisecting the community. Um So, we have as a limited roadway network as possible. Um we think we've established appropriate buffers uh in buffering from residential to residential uses,

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residential to park uses, and then a little bit heavier about We have a lot of wetlands to the rear of the site, so there's not a lot of development if anybody's looking at the plan here as you head towards the Rancocas Creek, which kind of makes sense, right? Um but along Creek Road, we have an expanded buffer. Um we're going to put sidewalk along the

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frontage, hopefully some landscape buffering um with the extra topsoil that we anticipate having when we get into site development. And that will act as a buffer to, you know, kind of transition the residential community to Creek Road and all the uh

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the heavier uses, so to speak. Uh again, just want to reiterate no school-aged children. That'll all be vetted out through the HOA documents. Um so no impacts to the local school district. These are our proposed home types. Uh currently we call this the Maverick model.

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Uh market rate active adult. Two-story townhomes. I have three written down so I had to double-check that it didn't make sense to me. Uh 24 to 28-ft wide, 52 to 60-ft deep, 1,950 to 2,278 square feet. It's a

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master down component, um which is preferred from an active adult lifestyle, with a second bedroom on the upstairs and an option for a third bedroom on upstairs as well. That could be treated as um you know, visitor space, office space, puzzle room,

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dance hall, whatever whatever anybody wants it to be. Uh two and a half baths, two-car garage, no basements planned for this community. Uh optional decks off the main living space. Ex- uh an exterior finish include vinyl

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siding, uh vertical board and batten, PVC panels, manufactured stone veneer. We anticipate being in uh priced in the mid to mid $400,000 range. That's obviously dependent upon market conditions,

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that'll go up and down as we go. And realistically we're probably 24 to 30 months away until we're marketing a home and that's if everything goes really good when we leave here tonight. Uh again, circling back to be trying trying to be environmentally conscious, some of the things that we will have in

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our homes to think about that. Tankless hot water heaters, thermal enclosed high efficiency HVAC systems. Sorry, I'm giving you all this, normally Lisa will give you all this when she comes later. Um uh energy efficient appliances, energy efficient LED lighting, and the town

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home garages will all be outfitted with a level one dedicated outlet for electric vehicle charging with an option to upgrade for a quick charge level two service. Um, that is generally component of the project itself from a site plan perspective and from a home perspective.

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I'll put the plan perspective up again and then I'm going to wrap with just some timing, what we believe is realistic timing. Um, to get us from tonight to a finish line and a finished product like completely out of the town's hair, we're done, no more homes, no more people

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moving in, just happy residents um, paying their taxes and living a great life here. Uh, so after we leave tonight, we figure we're 24 to 30 months away from getting all approvals. I circle back to DEP. DEP can be a crotchety process. You you go out and

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stake your line for your wetlands, you have a debate, maybe you move a flag here, you move a flag there. Takes a little bit of time to get through your DEP process and then we have all our local approvals, county approvals, water and sewer, water and sewer at DEP, etc. So, it's a it's a process, right? And

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I get pressed every day, why does it take me 24 months? And there's always a wrinkle. Um, sometimes you have successes. I had a court hearing today that I walked back on. Wow, I just moved a job up 12 months and I felt really good about that. So,

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sometimes that type of stuff happens and sometimes you you know, sometimes you have bad processes, too. Um, once we leave there, the process gets really accelerated. Uh, Lennar will chew up this this asset, we'll call it, 64 homes, will chew it up

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pretty quickly. Um, we don't wait for Duncan to come and Duncan's not 55. Look, I mean, he's like 25. So, we don't wait for Duncan to come into our sales office and say, I want to buy I want to buy this home here, Wayne. Okay, build me this house. I want this

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type of cabinet. I want this type of flooring. I want this type of countertop. We go with a model that's called everything included. Basically, if you walk into our sales office, everything you see you see in front of you is what you're going to get, but it's already being built. And depending upon what

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stage the home is in, if you particularly want this lot and it's under active construction, if it's far enough along that the cabinetry and stuff are already in, you're kind of stuck with it. If you're early enough in the process where the cabinets haven't gone in and the countertops haven't been cut, you can change colors, but your

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materials and things and such are already baked in. So, we call that paneling our homes and it's one of the ways that we move through our assets quicker than a lot of our competitors do for for the benefit for the benefit and the worse. Um, for instance, I mean, we just built 452

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homes for some of y'all that may have been familiar on on Smithville Road in East Hampton Township. We built 450 homes in less than 4 years. Now, that's obviously in a fantastic real estate market. Um, and we had multiple products there, so we were able to build two products at

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one time. Um, and we try to do that wherever we can, but on a smaller site like this, we're going to offer one product. Um, so just to close the loop on that, probably 0 to 6 months of site development, horizontal development, knocking down the buildings, cutting down the trees, stripping the topsoil,

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land grading, utility installation, and somewhere about 3/4 of the way along that process, um, we'll start hopefully we'll have a building permit from the town and we'll start our vertical construction. So, somewhere in that 4 to 6 month range after we started site development. And

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then feeding back into us chewing this asset up, we should build all these homes in less than 20 months. And so, once we exit approvals, once uh, the township engineers willing to sign our plans and we're able to record a plat, we figure we're 20 to 24 months

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to complete all homes done, dedication of any public uh, uh, uh, spaces or public improvements to the municipality, and we're done. We're out of our hair, and hopefully there's something else in Delanco that we're able to be fantastic at. That's all I got for you all. Thank you.

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>> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Any questions that we can answer? Obviously, we're here for the evening, so any questions that Mayor, committee, staff has, we're happy to answer them. >> Uh I just have a question about the spec homes. Uh the colors that are going to be chosen, [clears throat] is that is it

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are they going to be all the same color, uniform colors across? Is there an opportunity for a buyer to pick a color? Just curious as to color scheme. >> That's all dictated on stage or date dictated in process. Um we we

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every town has like a look-alike clause, right? They don't want the same home, the same thing right down the string. We control that on our own. As we panel a home, we'll panel a certain building string with a certain exterior feature, a certain color color palette. You know, this is

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when we get into if we're fortunate enough to get into the point where we're giving a full-blown presentation, right? You'll see that these will have three or four different elevations with three or four different color options. Uh you may have uh stone water table that goes up in front of It'll It'll vary, and as we panel those out, we'll

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make sure that it's a little bit more difficult than town homes than it is single family, right? Cuz the box is kind of the same, but um and you can introduce as many products as you want when it's single family. But we will make sure when we panel these up that they don't look exactly the same as you go down the street.

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They'll look similar, I'm not going to lie, but they're not going to be exactly the same. >> And your Harrington project, these are similar to that, right? The West End project? >> Yes. >> So we could technically go down there, check it out, and get an idea. >> That would be a good starting point.

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Yeah, absolutely. Um if you want I mean, those are not active adult homes, um but those would be a good start. Those would be representative of what we're building. We're building a little bit bigger home here. And that's actually a three-story product, where

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this is a two-story product, so it's a little bit different. >> Got you. Are they single-family homes? Is that what they are in Hampton? >> Sorry about that. >> Single-family homes rather than um townhouses? >> In Hampton? >> No, they're they're townhomes as well. >> townhomes as well. Okay. Um what about

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the project in you said in East Hampton? You're doing something? Is that um >> East Hampton was uh active adult. It had I did the approvals back in like 2016 for that. It had roughly two It was 452

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total. It had a mix of single-family homes, duplex homes, what we call them twins, and then triplex homes. Um some people want to press us into calling those townhomes. We call them triplex homes. Um so that was a that was a mix of those three products there.

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>> Where is that located? >> Wider prod- a little bit wider product and things like that. >> Where is that just in case that they want to take a ride? >> Yeah, that's it. >> What's the name of that development? >> Then you at Smithville Green, 1020 Smithville Road in East Hampton Township.

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That was an interesting one, too. We had to get New Jersey American Water to expand their water franchise to come down into that municipality to build that project, so. >> Good. And these will all be the same model? Is that what they'll be? Cuz the plan I

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have all Abigail >> Once once we pick a So, for now, because the conceptual Right, because the LOI or sorry, not the because the LOI through DEP hasn't truly defined um the wetlands boundaries and things like

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that, and we haven't gotten to a final resolution on bulk standards with the town. If you were following along, I referenced 24-ft wide and 28-ft wide and 52-ft deep and 62-ft deep and some and some square footage. There's just some flexibility in that whether it ends up being the Abigail product or the

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Maverick product. This would be the biggest product that we would build. This is the largest product. So, we selected, you know, to come here tonight, we selected the largest product product. Because that's the one my sales and marketing team wants to build. >> [laughter] >> Thank you.

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>> And I guess I have to get along with them. >> Anyone else have any questions? Not right now. Not right now. You can um if the gentlemen are going to stay around, um maybe it would be best if we open it up now. I mean

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um I think we would like to go into um what we're going to uh approve first and then we have a section for the public. >> Yeah, I just want to I just want to emphasize something on that point. We're going to have a full public process, so don't think that what was just presented is sort of like the

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end of discussion. This is the start of the discussion with Lenar. We've obviously been talking about 401 Creek and dealing with the uh impacts associated with that for uh over a year now, but in terms of Lenar, this is really their first introduction to the community.

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The purpose of a letter intent of intent is to say we we know enough I use this analogy. I don't love this analogy, but I'm going to use it here anyway. It's a little bit like an engagement, right? We're we know enough about what they're proposing, they know enough about the site and what we have to offer as a township that

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we're agreeing that we're going to work really hard over the next couple of months to try and reach an agreement. When we get to that redevelopment agreement, it's going to have a lot more detail, a lot more constraints on them, a lot more constraints on us in terms of where the parties can move. This right now is just sort of the beginning of

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point like big picture. We we asked for something that was more on the residential senior side of things and Lennar uh respond to that proposal and and the committee satisfied that it's

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in the in the realm of what we are are looking for for that site. Um we talked a lot about this site over the uh past year and a half because of the way the county park developed, the the Field of Dreams ended up happening, what happened

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uh up the road with the senior uh projects that have, you know, go back now 20 years with the Pulte development at Newton's Landing and the origination there. All that originally was zoned, you know, industrial and changed over the years and this became the the missing tooth in

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the middle of that and this is how we're fixing that. This we think is the appropriate solution, but there will be a lot more discussion. Once they go through the redevelopment agreement process, there will be planning board, site plan approval, all those sorts of things that uh will will be before the

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public for public comment and and and discussion. So, this is again just big picture here, so don't feel like we're not you're not going to have a part in the process. We we are including the public in the process. >> Right. So, what we are doing right now

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is we are doing a resolution authorizing the execution of letter letter of intent with Lennar Corporation for the redevelopment of 401 Creek Road, block 2100, lot 11 and naming US Home LLC

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uh doing business as Lennar as conditional redeveloper. So, I would ask the Township Committee for a motion to approve and authorize the execution of the letter of intent with Lennar. >> And that's 2026-87.

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I would make a motion. >> Thank you, Carolyn. Second? >> Second. >> Phil McFadden, roll call, please. >> Mr. Bartlet? >> Yes. >> Mr. McFadden? >> Yes. >> Mr. O'lette? >> Yes. >> Ms. Sue? >> Yes. >> Ms. Fitzpatrick?

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>> Yes. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Uh the next item is meeting is open to the public for comments and questions, agenda items only. This is session one. Sure it was. >> Harold Klingner, 509 Buttonwood Street.

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Uh I think the proposed plan is a great plan. I like it. Uh more adults, uh less kids for the schools, that's fantastic. Uh the only thing that I was wondering

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was uh two things was are is the the company aware of how much the taxpayers paid for the property? And are we going to get our money back?

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And two, who is going to be responsible for those roads and uh whatever else is involved with the roads and properties and stuff? Is it Is it Is it Is it going to be

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the association, the company, or is it going to end up being the township responsible for the roads and stuff? >> So, I'm going to jump in and try and answer the those just because I've been eating and sleeping this project. Um the

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the they're very aware of what we paid. It was included in the RFP process. Their initial proposal was south of that number. We have negotiated with them up to it was it indicated in the resolution 3.31 million. Um the purchase price was 3.5 million.

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However, there's a couple of other things that are impactful to the community that are important to the Township. Uh number one is we're returning it to the tax rolls when this project is fully built out. The ratable base that it will

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provide will far exceed what was approved under Criterion and certainly what sits there today. So there will be an improved ratable base that the entire community will benefit from and that that improvement is like 10 times what

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Criterion would have built. So it's a significant contribution to the community. The other element that that we're going to try and work through in the redevelopment process is as you know we this property backs up to the county uh trail system.

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Um we are once they get through their full development, we are going to try and work on a an element of this where the unused back portion of this property will be a separate lot that can be conveyed to the county. The county has

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interest in that land as part of their overall system. Um and we would be able to benefit by getting a couple of additional upland acres that the county owns at the back of the Field of Dreams that was previously restricted due to

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habitat considerations and is no longer restricted under under DEP regulation. So that has value to the community by obtaining additional upland parkland. Um those numbers particularly when you consider the tax ratable base will put

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us well ahead of where we would have been. Uh so that that has been a significant point of of negotiation between the parties to get to that that figure. Um the other question that you had was about road >> The roads. >> road dedication. So, in New Jersey,

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when a developer builds in accordance with uh residential site standards, the municipalities are obligated to accept those roads. These they're going to be part of our community just like the other communities that are along that have been built along Creek Road

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and uh Newton's Landing all the way up to the light rail station. >> Okay, thank you. >> Thank you. Anyone else? >> Gary Cooper, 300 Avenue. I just have a comment to make. When we first started, when you bought the land,

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a couple of you said you were going to try to keep the trees and all the stuff. It looks like that's being wiped out. You're clearing it and you're putting 65 more townhomes in this town that we don't need. >> Anyone else? I'll close this portion of the meeting to the public and we'll move Oh, I'm

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sorry. >> Michelle Lopez, 35 Emery Way. Um I have a question about uh the community itself. Um is there going to be street parking within the community? Not only uh the uh two-car garages, but

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when visitors come, is there on-street parking? Will there be? >> Our parking will be RSIS compliant, provides sufficient parking for >> For the community, what about visitors? When people come to visit?

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So, on-street parking will be >> when it's needed to meet the RSI's requirement. You're getting a little in deep into an engineering question, um but I can confirm that it will be the roads will be RSI's compliant, as Doug referenced, and supply sufficient parking.

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>> So, typically like a guest lot, kind of offset. >> There's There's something reflected on the plan. >> Yeah, there's something in the bottom of the plan there. >> Specifically right now, and again, it's conceptual, but in order to meet RSI's compliance for, like you said, for um

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for visitors, you would have on-street parking in these areas. That said, in addition to that, the way RSI's does it, um this will be a full-service two-car garage, meaning you'll actually be able to fit two cars in there. I recognize a lot of people end up using their garages

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for things, right? They accumulate even one space, multiple spaces. But, the homes will also be set back sufficient enough to be able to fit two cars in your driveway, as well. So, in theory, you have four spots per home, plus 3 6

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28 31 roughly 50 on-street parking spaces, specifically. >> Okay. Okay. Thanks, Wayne. >> Anyone else? Henry.

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No? >> Good evening. Mike O'Donnell, 17 Memory Way. Getting back to uh who's going to be responsible for streets, is that going to be an HOA thing, or like where you are in uh Newton's Landing, where the the city

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maintains the streets. >> So, >> So, typically the ultimate maintenance of the streets becomes the municipal responsibility. They become public roadways. Um there are situations where an HOA can say, "We actually want to do our own

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snow snow plowing." Uh we're again, we're getting into the weeds here, but I think big picture, if the question is are they going to be public? Yeah, they're going to be public, right. >> All right. And secondly, uh about the trees.

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I'm fine with trees being moved. And I'm sure you've thought of this, but you're taking out some trees. There's areas where you could plant some, too, correct? So, we're we're not going to suffer from >> No, and that will all be addressed in

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the redevelopment agreement. Um that's been a focus of >> Yeah. Yeah. Someone brought that up and >> Yep. No, it it's all the nitty-gritty and that kind of thing will be addressed in the redevelopment agreement. And >> Thanks. >> Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Anyone else?

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>> Okay, I'll close this portion of the meeting to the public and we'll move on to comments and reports. >> Did [clears throat] we want to thank Lenore and >> I think we would thank Lenore and gentlemen, if you would like to um to leave, we'll take a couple minutes to let you do that. Um thanks for the presentation. We look

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forward to working with you on this project. >> Thank you. It's good. >> Yeah. Thank you, Doug. >> Thank you. >> Okay, we'll move forward with comments and reports. >> First

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>> Um okay. We can wait. I I mean, I think Harry can start his report. Or Doug. Doug start with you for your report. >> Mayor, I don't have anything to report on. >> Okay. That was quick.

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Okay, Harry. >> Okay, I'm glad Doug didn't have anything cuz I have quite a few items tonight. >> [laughter] >> I didn't say I yield my time to you, Harry. >> Okay, um we have to date on on our various projects. Um the crossings at Galanko,

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we met I met with the uh homeowners association. Uh it was I think very helpful to them um as well as I I we we received some insight from the residents. And and we basically went over process of

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the bonding, how we the punch list, how we can make contract do certain things, other things we can't do. Um so I I think it went very well and I thank Cindy for doing that um and um Deborah may have something in her report with that

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as well, but she was there um to to reassure and the the homeowners that we are looking out for the best interest. Um and and the mayor did get there after a little bit after our sewer authority meeting, but she she attended as well.

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Um so that worked out as well. Uh the 2024 road program, that's the Delaware Avenue repaving. Contractor has finished all his uh concrete punch list work. He still has a little bit of paving work to do. That should be done within the next

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week, week and a half, and that project will be completely finished and we we can close it out. >> He's going to repaint that crosswalk, too. >> Yeah, he's he's also going to do some mylar infrared repair of the uh asphalt on the crosswalk

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midway. So, he's going to prepare that, too. Okay. >> So, yes, they they will prepare that. >> Cool. Good. >> Um the uh 2025 local aid project uh that's the um the Newton's Landing Boulevard

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paving project. That is scheduled to start on the 22nd of this month. Um they are going to start on the We have to re- retrofit some of the inlets. Um they're going to starting on that. They are also going to be doing uh an

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additional inlet for us that was damaged in Newton's Landing. Um We approved a change order to do that. So, that inlet will be taken taken care of that week. Um the following week the following week of 29th they will be

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coming in and and installing Belgian block curb on the first block. Um if you're familiar with the area, there's that one section that wasn't curved. Um that's going to get Belgian block curved. And they'll pave it shortly after that. Once they're done with the landing,

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they'll move over to the school parking lot and they'll pave that. That's what's going on. >> And I think Debbie's getting ready to send out communication to Newton's Landing and the school to let them know about the start date, right? >> Yes. >> Yes. Sweet.

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>> Um the 2025 CDBG grant um that is the handicap uh grant that we received. We did receive bids. They all came in high. A bid. We received one bid uh for the project that was substantially higher than our estimate. Um we recommend that

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we um reject all reject the bids. >> Rebid. >> And we will go back out um for new bids. And And we're adjusting the plans to add more alternates so it does come in we we can do whatever money we have from the county do as many ramps as we can. And we're going to wait to

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all of this if prices come in better. I I would expect they would come in better. Um It's uh you never know. It's all timing with these contractors. Uh the Union Avenue boat ramp. Uh we do we did finally receive approval from DEP

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and the Army Corps for the ramp. Um so I'm going to review with uh with Debbie timing of of going out to bid and the next process on that. Um but we did receive uh all the approvals. That's it.

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>> Is there any um restrictions on time? >> There is not. >> Good. >> Oh, wow. That's great. >> There was very little restrictions on this. The only restriction they had actually was originally we were going to make it 30 ft wide and they would only allow us to go 20 ft. >> 20, yeah.

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>> Um other than that they were they were much more reasonable on on this than the the other issue we kind of had to get past at the at the last minute. Um they informed us that it had to be open to the public if we were going to get approval.

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And knowing the situation with that ramp, um we went back and forth with them and explained to them the history of it and what it's used for and they did give us that approval with that. >> Okay. And you know, it's public too. >> Good. Um the public service

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um which I'm sure everyone here has been affected by the uh main installation uh gas main installation uh the roadways. I spoke with public service today. Um this week they're going to be giving me their map of roads that need to be

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repaved. Um after that, uh John and I and and Debbie will sit down and we may do some swapping of of areas as I explained before. We public service doesn't care. They're responsible to pave X amount of

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feet of road. They don't care what road it is. So, it's common we do whatever in every one of our towns. We may cuz they're only they only need to to pave half a road in a lot of cases. Half of the parkway. So, we may say, "Okay, don't pave half

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of this parkway in this but pave pave the full parkway someplace else." Um so, we will go through all that and see which see how we want to to to do it. And once we get that together, I will make a little map for everyone so you'll see what is going to be paved

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um from that outcome. But they they're figuring on um they they would like to start paving uh mid to end of July. Mid to the end of July. >> Okay. >> Uh the 20 26 locally, um

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that is an application that's on the resolution. Uh we recommended applying As you know, we received a grant to do the drainage work on Hickory Street. Um we are now starting we we're recommending that we apply for grants to do

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from the from the creek, Yough Falls Creek, um up to somewhere the approximately Dash Franklin. Um what we're going to do is we're we're applying for more than I think they'll give us but that's what

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we always do. And whatever money they give us, then we can determine how far we go the road or the pipe. Um but we think that's a good application. It's a continuation of what they were giving us money for. Um and there are some safety issues involved with that. >> But that does include Hickory Street

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drainage, right? >> Well, Hickory Street drainage is the the project that's going out. That'll be going out to bid um I'm going to say probably in a month or so. >> Okay. >> That's the the block from Union to um >> Cooper Street. >> Apple Street. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah. Um so so that's already in the works. We have money for that. We're working on a design. The survey's done. We're working on a design. Um and and that will go out to bid early summer for sometime construction. >> Do you have a cost estimate yet for

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that? Is it another 200,000? >> Um we we don't have a final estimate. We we have our preliminary estimate. Um that that the the grant should cover. >> Okay. >> We what we're going to do like we always like to do on our our projects is we're going to make it an alternate.

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So if it does come in a little bit higher, we can at least put the base bid and get it done. Um and if we get if it does come in good prices, then we'll do the alternate. Um the alternate is going to be the intersection of uh Walnut and Hepburn.

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There's a lot of inlets and pipes going in different directions and whatnot. So if we at least we'll get the block >> Right. >> And then if prices come in come in favorable, then we can do the intersection as well. And that's going to be replacing the entire plate, the inlets, and repaving

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the road. >> Good. >> Didn't we just pave that road? >> No, we paved Walnut up to that we stopped short >> Okay. >> of that intersection because we know >> We knew we were going to do. What about the roof replacement for town hall?

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Is that in the I know we said as soon as we passed the budget that that was going to be a priority item. >> Yes, there's a resolution in here tonight to join a co-op the through Bergen County and that co-op will allow us to award to the recommended uh roofer

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contractor. >> Good. >> So we'll award that next meeting. >> Okay. >> Okay, um the uh Centennial Park, um we did receive bids as you know and that's on the agenda for um approval tonight. That so everyone knows this

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the contractor was LMC Developers. That is actually the same company that did Waterfront Park. >> Oh, great. >> They have a sister company that's actually owned by his wife and he put it under that that company, but the same people that did the Waterfront Park will be will be doing this this

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park if it's awarded. Um >> He did our tree grant project, too. >> Yeah. >> He owes us eight trees still. >> Does he? >> I got that in the back of my head. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're glad that that he was low bidder. Obviously, >> Yeah. >> he did a great job for us there. >> Yeah, he really did. Yeah, that's that's

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nice. That's nice to know, too. >> The um uh 200 Ash Street. We have not um received approvals or any comments actually from Army Corps or DEP as of this time.

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Um we do have the this project as as you may know is in it's two projects put into one. It we have the grant to do the remediation work. We have to excavate several tons of soil and replace it.

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Um that work plan uh is just about done. We're going to be sending that over for DEP review and signature. That will then go into the to DEP for that portion of the project. That really has nothing to do with the

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the the the seawall the bulkhead that we're proposing. That's sort of a separate separate entity, but we're putting it in one contract. So, you know, one step at a time, but we're we're getting there and DEP is tough sometimes. They They have

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They have 90 days to review things and by law and when it comes up to the 89th day, they call us up and tell us to ask for an extension. And if we don't ask for an extension, they deny it. >> Yeah. >> So, that has happened twice so far. We've actually had two

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30-day extensions that that they they asked for. So, we should be hearing something soon or later. And that's all I have, uh, Mayor. >> Okay. Anybody have any [clears throat] questions for Harry? >> Uh, the clock for Centennial, you were

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working [snorts] on two prices for that? >> Yes. There's We received a um a quote from a a company in Cinnaminson and I supplied you with the two different types of clocks. >> And we Yeah. >> You picked the clock that you wanted. >> Right.

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>> So, we have that price. We're working on trying to get another price to compare it to so we can award it. Um and we're in the process of doing that now. Uh, as well as the rest of the amenities, the benches, tables,

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the benches and tables, most of the bike rack, that type thing. Um, we're doing through state contract. So, we we will purchase them through state contract with our own funds and supply them to the contractor to to install. It's uh it comes out cheaper that way because

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you don't you have no contractor markup. >> Right. And that's what we'll do with the bricks, too. Make sure that the contractor has them the Centennial for the Centennial Park. >> Yeah, the memorial bricks? >> The memorial bricks, yeah. We have like 27 left. >> Yeah. >> They've been selling >> a couple today, too. I saw that emails.

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>> Um are we going to have the public works department install the benches, too, as a cost-saving measure? >> We can do that. I thought about that because what how the spec was that the public works would would assemble the benches. Because when they get shipped, they come in pieces. So, the public works would assemble them. >> Okay. >> And the contract

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stated the contractor was to pick them up from public works and install them. But, yes, we can definitely once it's awarded, we can do a change order to take that off of off of the quote. off the contract and save money at the public works. >> Yeah. >> Cuz almost

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everything simply settle the contract is pouring the concrete pads. All they have to do is set the benches and put the bolts in. >> Yeah, if we can save a few thousand, why not, right? >> Yeah. >> Exactly. And there may be some other places that in in the contract that we can save some money during the construction. >> Right.

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>> So, what we can do, we can do that this year. >> Okay. And what's the anticipated start time for that? The fall? >> It's >> Well, June or July? >> It it it would it would start in the summertime for the hardscaping. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All of the landscaping would be done in September.

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>> Yeah, and then we'll probably dedicate in October. >> Right. >> Great. That's our plan. >> Yeah. That's our plan. All right, Harry. Anybody else have questions for Harry? >> Yeah, I have one. >> [laughter] >> Right. The company will be coming in to

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leave Iowa and West. And as agreed [clears throat] to we really got a good deal out of that because West Avenue has the both sides. They're only part of they want side cuz that's the only place they put the their line. But when they came in for the application

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since the roads were newly paved Iowa and Kansas and um Illinois I I told them we want both sides of West Avenue paved. Otherwise, we will deny your permit. Um and after some time they agreed to it. So, we're getting all of West Avenue

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both sides of the island paved by the local company. >> It needs it. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that's >> You remember that argument when they tried to say both sides they meant just that side that >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yes. >> No. >> But they they they came around. >> They weren't happy about [clears throat] it, though.

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>> No. No, and it it's tough when you deal with the dealing with >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Some are great. I have to say public works have been fantastic. >> Yeah. >> We're a company out 10 months, but that's that's the way it works. >> Yeah. Good.

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Any Anybody else for Harry? Okay, Harry. You're off the hook. Uh Township Administrator. >> Thank >> Thank you, Mayor. Um as most of you already know, Babe Ruth Park is progressing along nicely. All the equipment is installed. So, the last

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phase is going to be the pour-in-place, which is the uh safety surface that will go underneath the equipment. Uh this agenda includes a long-awaited agreement with the CWA, our public works group. So, we are signing the memorandum of

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understanding tonight and able to move forward with that. Uh there's also a resolution in here. We um recently had our electrical subcode inspector resign, and rather than go out, we were able to negotiate a deal

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with Mount Laurel to use one of theirs, um their electrical subcode. So, that agreement will allow us a lot more flexibility with hours. They're going to use their um Mount Laurel's vehicle. Um we'll get set hours, so they'll be here uh 2 hours a day Tuesdays and

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Thursdays of every week. Um just makes it easier. If they're away, we have backup for Mount Laurel. So, it's a it's a great arrangement. And he will actually um when this agreement gets signed, he will be starting tomorrow. So, um

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and it's a it's a good thing with Mount Laurel. It really helped us. Um and I think that is There is a grant agreement in here. It is the one we've been speaking of, 2024 Green Communities. We've gotten that wrapped up, and this is now just us inserting it

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into the budget, so we can move forward and spend it. And that is all I have. >> Okay. Good. Chief. >> Good evening, everyone. For the month of May, uh for stats, we have the total of 34 police cases for a

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total for the year of 99. There were 118 motor vehicle stops with the total for the year of 857. There were 31 summonses issued and the total for the year is 219. And the officers responded to 794 calls

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for a total for the year of 3,900. So, starting summer off pretty busy. >> Yeah. >> But, good thing. Several of my officers participated a week ago in the torch run. Um very well received. They picked up the torch from Riverside at the bridge. And

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I had the pleasure of chauffeuring Mrs. uh Russell and Mrs. Seminaire. So, they could see each stop. But, the kids were able to come out and support them and cheer them on as they went past them in front of the school, which was really nice. It was a hot day, so they were laboring,

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but they did well. Roughly covered like 3.5 mi. So, they did well, but it was pretty cool. >> Great. >> And then, I'm just getting everything nailed down for the National Night Out. Pretty much everything set up, so looking forward to to that coming. So, it'll be a nice time.

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>> Yeah. And they're having fireworks for the National Night Out. So, that's something new for Delanco. August 4th, right? >> Yeah, the Centennial fireworks show. >> Yeah. That'll be nice. >> nice. So, but that's it for now. >> Okay, thank you, Chief. Uh John, public works. >> Good evening.

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Um we picked up 48 cubic yards of brush, that's chipped up brush, for um pickup. We cut all town properties four times. Uh we put a half a ton of patch out for potholes. Uh we removed had to remove a tree up at

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West Avenue cuz of the wind. Uh we swept the whole town. The whole town has been swept uh, at least twice. We've done a pretty good job. 60, we had 320 yd dumpsters of debris.

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That's a lot of debris that we swept. Um, we got off the street. We put up all the flags on the on Burlington Avenue. We started painting the curbs on the little side. Uh, that's starting to work out pretty good.

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Um, we are starting to trim the trees out of Newton's Landing there, the Boulevard. There's 30 trees that need to be trimmed. And we got uh, eight left so far. And that should help them get the

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paver underneath of there. Uh, and the the machine that mills them up. Uh, we did all the flower beds. They all got nicely mulched up at West Avenue, too. I don't know if anybody noticed that or

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not. Uh, we lined the ballfields 13 times. We put up 37 new street signs at Rivers Edge cuz they were starting to get faded. And we helped with the cleanup of Hawk

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Island and it was a nice turnout. >> That's all. >> That's all. >> There there's a pothole as you turn into Franklin right by Lou's Deli. >> Yeah. >> And I also noticed that one of the flags, the bracket is bent on when you

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turn into Rancocas off of Burlington Avenue. >> I don't think a truck hit it. >> Yeah, that was done before [clears throat] Memorial Day, actually, and I was surprised somebody didn't pick that out, but um, so you may want to just remove it. Um, >> Okay.

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>> I don't know if we have any extra brackets at this point. >> Yeah, we probably do. >> Because we know we have to be You know the brackets have to be approved and Debbie's working on that. I had just got some information from Riverside on that as well. Thank you John. It was the cleanup at

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Hawk Island went well with Senator Singleton. And Ryan did a nice job. You know, doing the safety issues and >> We we had a little incident today which very hard out of Newton's Landing. We were you know the drainage ditch that we

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always and when you cut it and floods out and picks it all up and puts it on top of the grates. The grates were actually moved off of it. >> Wow. >> So we got to go there tomorrow and and get them back on. I don't know

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who would even do that. >> I wonder if the pressure from the water could do that. I think so. They're heavy. Yeah. You mean somebody had to [clears throat] do that? Do you When were they cut? They were cut in the winter, weren't they? >> Yeah. Yeah, I we

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just checked them in there. Ryan said they somebody moved them. And I'm like So first thing in the morning we're going to take care of it. >> Okay. Anybody have any questions for John? Okay.

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Mrs. Russell, you're up. >> A couple of things on the agenda tonight is a resolution 2695 which recends 2685. That resolution allowed for a local brewery to sell limited quantities of beer in a designated beer garden at the

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250th celebration concert. The brewery that Aaron Provenzano has been working with was not able to secure their state license. So in time for the governing body to review the details of the event. So that's off off for now. They are interested in the

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Centennial Fall Festival, however, so look for more information to come on that. Also resolution 2692 establishes the amount of reimbursement for um the concrete slabs and the pavers for the ordinance that was adopted this

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evening. A couple other things. Uh the municipal offices will be closed on Friday, June 19th in honor of Juneteenth. And you may notice there's a lot of color happening around the municipal building. >> Yes. >> We've gone red, white, and blue.

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Um >> It's nice. >> Yeah. So, at some point the seminar is probably going to make us all just wear red, white, and blue. >> [laughter] >> But we've We've all been having a lot of fun. >> Yes. >> It is. It's a big year. Having a lot of fun decorating and really getting into

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the spirit of the 250th and our centennial. >> That's great. >> The nonprofit ordered 800 flags, little lawn flags, the 18-x-20s to put in all the parks right before the 250th. We'll line the the different streets with

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them, so it'll be really nice. >> Yeah, it's a shame we couldn't sell some to the public. But I guess you can just go online and buy one if you want one, yeah. Yeah, it'll be nice. The The decorations look great here. And it's good to see everybody's getting in the spirit.

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>> Mayor, can I add a comment? Um just wanted to announce something. Are you doing that? >> going to ask her Aaron if she had anything first. >> Uh yeah, I have a couple of things. The Hometown Hero banners there's maybe purchase on the contract. See my Lake

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City website or in person at the municipal building. Uh banners are for residents, past and present, who have served or are currently serving in all branches of the US military. Also on the C my Lake City and the party mentioned today there are

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still bricks for purchase. Uh you can hear more in Centennial Park. Past and present, alumni, graduates, anyone who would like to honor. Um and they're both I believe and correct me if I'm wrong, due on the 30th.

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>> Yeah. >> Ish. >> Ish. >> Yeah. >> Um and it's kind of a rolling deadline. >> I also have the celebration for America's 250th, which is a concert at Starboard Drive Park on Sunday, June 28th, from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. In addition

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to the concert, there will also be food trucks and activities. >> Good. Carolyn. >> I just wanted to let the committee and the public know that I did reach out to Senator Singleton about a donation for the fireworks, and he had to He committed to $1,000.

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>> Oh, that's great. >> that check last week. So, I just wanted to publicly thank the Senator and Jen for making that happen, and he's going to try to get to that event as well. So, thank you, Senator Singleton, for your donation.

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>> Yes. That's great. Okay. Uh consent agenda items. Consent agenda items are considered to be routine and will be enacted with a single motion. Any item requiring discussion will be removed from the consent agenda. All consent agenda items

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will be reflected in full in the minutes. Ordinance 2026-9, an ordinance to amend an ordinance entitled "An Ordinance of the Township of Delanco Providing For and Determining the Rate of Compensation of Officers and

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Employees." First reading by title only, and the public hearing is set for June 29th, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. Resolution 2026-88, award of bid and contract for Centennial

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Park Improvements Project. Resolution 2026-89, requesting approval of items of revenue and appropriations into 2026 municipal budget pursuant to N.J.S.A. 48:4-87.

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New Jersey DEP grant to conduct the Delanco Shade Tree Commission tree inventory. Resolution 2026-90, resolution approving submission of a grant application and execute a grant contract with the New Jersey Department

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of Transportation for the year um 2027 Poplar Street drainage improvements. Resolution 2026-91, memorandum of agreement between the Township of Delanco and CWA Local 1036.

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Resolution 2026-92, establishing reimbursement qualification for residential sidewalk repair with pavers pursuant to ordinance 2026-8, chapter 240-3,

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paragraph 1. Resolution 2026-93, resolution authorizing the Township of Delanco to enter into the New Jersey Cooperative Purchasing Alliance Cooperative Pricing Agreement. Resolution 2026-94,

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authorizing a shared service agreement between the Township of Mount Laurel and the Township of Delanco. Uh resolution 2026-95, rescinding resolution 2026-85 due to insufficient time for vendor to

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obtain required licensing from State of New Jersey. Resolution 2026-96, a resolution urging the New Jersey State Legislature and Governor to repeal the gas tax escalator and restore

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accountability to fuel tax increases. Approval of minutes for March 16th regular meeting, April 6th regular meeting. Payment of bills, approve the payment of bills in the amount of $1,124,634.28 as per the bill list run date June 15th,

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2026. So, I need a motion to approve the consent agenda items. >> So moved. >> Matt >> So Scott. >> Okay. Bill McFadden. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Bartlett. >> Yes. >> Mr. McFadden. >> Yes. >> Mr. O'Connell. >> Yes.

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>> Ms. Suozzo. >> Yes. >> Ms. Fitzpatrick. >> Yes. Approval of minutes for the March uh 2nd, 2026 regular meeting. Motion? >> So moved. >> Matt or Scott, I'm sorry. >> Second.

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>> Bill McFadden. Roll call. >> Mr. Bartlett. >> Yes. >> Mr. McFadden. >> Yes. >> Mr. O'Connell. >> Abstain. >> Ms. Suozzo. >> Yes. >> Ms. Fitzpatrick. >> Yes. Approval of minutes April 20th regular meeting. Motion? >> So moved. >> Second.

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>> Aaron Carolyn, okay. Roll call. >> Um Legal question, is is Carolyn able to second that one? She was >> Oh, is she abstaining on this? >> Oh, yeah. >> Oh, yeah. Then we'll need a different second.

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>> I'll second it. >> Mr. Bartlett. >> Uh I was absent as well, so abstain. >> Mr. McFadden. >> Yes. >> Mr. O'Connell. >> Yes. >> Ms. Suozzo. >> Abstain. >> Ms. Fitzpatrick. >> Yes. Uh correspondence.

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>> We received a letter from Revolution New Jersey. Um and some pins that uh Mayor Fitzpatrick put in all of your bins. Um Revolutionary New Jersey spotlights New Jersey's role in the founding of the United States with our 250th anniversary coming up. Um so, just thanking us for

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participating. They sent us a poster, which we have um in the lobby in the vestibule. Um so from time to time they send us some things just to kind of spotlight New Jersey's role. Second piece of correspondence uh Miss

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Seminara forwarded to me. It was a letter um an email rather sent by Mary Wood um regarding the placement of the porta potty at the Union Avenue program. Um that's been forwarded to um all of you.

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Um and the third piece of correspondence was a letter from residents Terry Bader and Dave Studer regarding um their property on Delra Avenue during the car show where um participants in the car show um

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placed chairs and a uh pop-up tent on their property um without permission. And that was also forwarded to you and I to review. >> Thank you. The um the letter from Mary Wood, that's been taken care of. The

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the um Mr. Bob is being removed and we're just going to review the site to see if it can be placed somewhere else for the next two concerts. And if not, it will be placed in that same place, but it will be a brown and it'll only be there for the length of time absolutely needed.

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Uh the letter from [clears throat] um from Dave and uh Terry, I don't know if he wanted to address that um I don't know if we need to address that because it's maybe when we have another car show, if

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we do, that that >> Yeah, I think Harry reviewed it. I don't know if Harry wanted to speak to it at all, but I think it's sort of we we understand the situation now and >> Yeah, there >> Efforts can be made to ensure that doesn't happen again. >> Right, because I don't think there is Tent doesn't have an easement on the

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waterfront property, just on the sidewalk side and that we would just have to instruct anyone who is um actually being in the car show that they would have to be on the on the street. We'd have to have more room for them to

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sit next to their cars or what have you not on the property unless they actually obtain permission or we obtain permission and we apologize for that. >> I think Harry, did you want to address exactly the scenario there? Cuz we did talk to you before ahead of

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time. >> Yes. Um what happened um Garland and the and the rec committee um asked what the right away was on Delaware Avenue and the right away is 50 ft up to well,

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starting from Willow um up to just the lot right before the shooters. Uh then it turns to 40 ft. Um and I wasn't really sure that the cars were going to go up that far to be honest with you. >> Right. >> The finest turnout.

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>> Yeah. >> And so so the information I gave was that we had a uh a 10-ft strip on the grass that was part of the right away. Uh and and looking at the survey that they supplied in the tax box as well

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you're right that they own from the essentially from the back of the curb 40 ft. >> Right. So, we'll just be aware of that and apologize for any inconvenience. Um I don't know if you wanted to say

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anything. >> Just for every event, not just the car show. That's all. >> And every event, right. Thank you, Karen. >> Yeah, and I I apologize for not realizing that it was in the plot. >> Thank you, Harry.

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Okay, meeting is open to the public. Um this is for session two, um general questions half hour. >> Harold Klingler, 509 Buttonwood Street. Uh the the last meeting I was at it might have been the last meeting. There was

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not everybody was here. So, at that time. >> Uh that was April, I think. >> Um prob- probably. I don't know for sure, but um the one thing I I asked about

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at that time was about the uh uh the new Centennial Park. Um I've kind of came late to the party, so I really had a clue what it looked like or anything like that.

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>> Uh we have a plan, and I thought somebody was going to send a plan to you, but we we have a plan in um the conference room. If you want to I can bring the plan out and show it to you after the meeting if you want. Do you want to hang out? >> But uh wouldn't it be like a

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a good idea like if we had a place like out there I'm out there it might be filled up, I don't know. Or even in here I noticed a lot of empty walls in here. Where some kind of plan that's going on over a number of years

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that maybe it could be put up there so people could come and look at it. Uh cuz I don't think it can be put on the website, right? I don't think that website will handle it. >> I don't know. Cuz it's We we can do a PDF. There's an 8 1/2 by

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11 PDF document that can be put up. I thought somebody was going to actually send you a copy of that plan. >> Well, somebody was, but I didn't want to you know, like >> Okay. So, I'll uh um if you give me your email address, I'll send you a copy of the plan, but I'll bring the big one out if you want to take a look at it today.

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You tell me what you want and um we'll make sure it's taken care of. >> Well, you can just e- email it to me and I'll I'll make sure you have my correct email. >> Okay, good. >> Okay. >> All right. >> So then the other thing uh on parks general, I mean

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we have a lot of parks in this town for small town. We might even have the record, I don't know. In the United States. >> Um so there's another property uh

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at the end of Ash Street on the creek that used to be the old canvas factory whatever it was and I think the town has that property. >> Yes, actually Harry reported on that. That's the one we're working with DEP to remediate the property and

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put up part of the seawall. >> So is there another plan involving that property for another park or >> Yes. >> What's going to go on? >> That was just a conceptual plan. Just as the gentleman said tonight that you

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initially have a conceptual plan and that plan may change, but we had to come up with a conceptual plan in order to apply to DEP for the remediation grant. So we do have a conceptual plan. It's not in stone.

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>> There's nothing like a drawing or anything like that or what it looks like. It's just >> There There is There is a conceptual plan and I'll be happy to make sure that's sent to you, too. >> Okay. I thank you very much. Uh

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and the last thing uh was I know we spoke about a few times about a plan possibly to for street cleaning.

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A schedule. And you were going to talk it over with the administrator. Uh I don't know if you got time to do that or not. >> Well, she is working with John to try to >> on it. >> establish that.

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>> It's a little more complicated than just we do share the street sweeper with Beverly. So, there isn't anything set in stone with that schedule. What we talked about doing is seeing if we could give like a little bit of notice through the blast email that it's going to be in a certain neighborhood. Cuz that all

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depends on weather. So, there's a lot of factors, but we are discussing ways to >> Right, I realize it would be difficult. I realize that because you're sharing the the machine with another township. >> Right. >> But I was just wondering if something was being worked on. >> Yes.

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>> Okay. Thank you, that's all. >> You're welcome. Anyone else? Ray? >> You knew you weren't going to get off the hook. Ray Weaver, 22 Ship's Way. Uh one thing, John. What Hey, John. Where were those grates you were talking

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about? >> On the back side of the creek. >> On the back side of the creek. Okay. Um now, cuz the reason why I was just asking is because I know we've had trouble with some of the kids in the police officer to come out and uh remove

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some of them cuz they were jumping into the retention basins. So, we've had them come out. >> it's it's lady that calls every time they flood out or prepares as they're going to flood out. >> Yes. >> And how they you know, could have got out of there.

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>> no clue how they moved them. >> nobody's seen how they moved >> Cuz they they are heavy. I knew that. Second thing is on the Newton's Landing paving, when that's going to occur. >> I'm going to reach out to you. >> And Christine. >> Okay.

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>> Okay? That's all I want to say. >> I'll see you after I make sure I have all the right information. >> Okay. Got you. Thank you. >> Mhm. >> That's it. >> Thank you, Rick. Anyone else? >> Tim Kishler, 12 Harris Court. I haven't been to many meetings since the mayoral election in January. Been

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since But since my return to the game coincides with the end of the school year and the planned start of road resurfacing in Traditions at Newton's Landing, I thought it an appropriate time to reiterate, clarify, and add to my prior suggestions to calm traffic and improve driving safety there.

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My interest in pursuing this matter began with feeling personally challenged to make a safe safe left-hand turn onto Newton's Landing from Emory Rue Way. It is extremely difficult to see oncoming vehicles as they emerge from around the bend in the short 1/10 mile curved road

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section that runs from the entrance on Newton's Landing Boulevard and they approach this first intersection at speeds that may exceed the current 25 mile per hour limit. I have taken to driving behind my house, making left turns on Harlow Place and McKay Way before proceeding left onto

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Newton's Landing Boulevard a long block further away at the intersection of McKay where I can actually see approaching vehicles after they pass Emory Way. Though I employ this workaround for myself, I would still like to see some needed improvements made to help others and to prevent possible collisions.

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Additionally, one of my neighbors has made me aware of drivers failing to yield the right of way on at least one of the two traffic circles on the premises. As I mentioned previously, I suspect that the no U-turn signs that were installed to prevent turnarounds along Newton's Landing Boulevard

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have helped calm traffic to some extent and that the one-way arrow signs have prevented some vehicles from driving down the wrong side of the meeting strip out the entrance or in the exit. I believe that a few additional met measures could better improve things. As I say it here the issues.

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There's a speed reduction of close to 50% from 45 mph to 25 mph from that of the two roads, Old Creek Road and the other Creek Road, County Road 625 that feed into the community from one or both directions with no advance warning or prior notice.

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Second, the single black on white speed limit sign and there's there is a only a single black on white speed limit sign in the whole of the Traditions community located quite a distance from the entrance where it can be difficult to see. A full third

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of the way between Old Creek Road entrance and the first intersection at Emery Way, it stands low and off to the right nestled beneath and often in the shadow of one of the trees lining Newton's Landing Boulevard. Number three, there's also currently no speed limit sign at all on John Marr

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Way, which is used as a cut through both into and out of Traditions. Number four, the first 10th mile of Newton Landing Newton's Landing Boulevard is curved. While this contributes to a visual obstruction, it also creates an exception to rules regarding signage color and allows for

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other speed reduction techniques. Number five, the right of way at the two traffic circles within the community is not established. And number six, while there are crosswalks at every intersection where is currently a stop sign, there are not stop signs at every intersection where there's currently a

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crosswalk. So I have some proposals I'd like you to consider. Number one, that the current speed limit in Traditions be reduced from 25 mph to 15 mph as it is in The Point. That the single speed limit sign be moved closer to the entrance and or an

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additional sign be installed on the median strip to the driver's left. Additionally, that a speed limit sign be installed on John Marr Way. >> [clears throat] >> Number three, that the speed limit signs color on the curve be changed from white to the new greenish yellow and or that

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other adjustments and additions be made as allowed to improve visibility. Number four, that one or more of the following types of signs be added at the approach of the entrance, reduce speed ahead, no through road, or dead end. Number five, that stop signs be added at

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the following crosswalk locations where they do not currently exist. At Newton's Landing Boulevard at Emery Way, Emery Way and Harris Court, in front of number two Russ Farmway and Newton's Landing Boulevard at the center circle, at number 72 Pennington Court and New

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and Newton's Landing Boulevard at the center circle, on Ships Way at Wolverton Place between numbers 41 and 43, at Ships Way between number 61 and 63, and at number 99 Ships Way at the circle by the clubhouse.

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I already know that nothing can be done about the streets in our 55 plus community being used as a test course by students learning to drive unless and or until they are observed breaking a traffic ordinance by a police officer. And I have been told that installing speed bumps is also something that can't be

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done. These things I have had to accept, but I would appreciate your seriously considering which of my above suggestions can be implemented, how and when versus what not cannot be done and why. Thank you. >> So, Tim, could you forward that to us? I

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mean I I mean some of the speed limits are by law and some of the stop signs are also by law and by statute, but could we have that in writing so that we can address it? >> Sure.

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>> Okay. You can email it to Beth, our clerk. Okay? >> Okay. >> All right. Thank you, Tim. Anyone else? >> Thank you. Steven. >> Steven Lord, 2800 Colby Avenue. I just want to make a quick comment. I want to thank the committee and Mayor

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Fitzpatrick for passage of resolution 2026-88 for the Centennial Glouming's project. I want to thank the committee for their continued support in that. It's a long time coming and I look forward to it and again, thank you very much for your support.

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>> You're welcome. Thank you. Anyone else? Yes, Tim. Sure, and then >> I just want to thank everyone. I see the next proposed ordinance has to do with you're getting ahead of these developments. >> Yes. >> I know there's nothing that we can do

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either in the township or for that matter in any of our states to prevent warehousing of immigrants, but at least maybe we could get ahead of the situation. >> Right. Okay. Peter. >> Peter Silverberg, 30 Wolverton Place. I just would like to

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when there's a holiday and we have the garbage collection and trash collection delayed, we'd like a little earlier warning than say uh 5:00 of the night that's going to be changed. It should be easy for people to get all their garbage cans out cuz they don't

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catch it on the the website early enough. And I think we know when the holidays are, so it should be workable. >> Uh yes, I'm not sure when that email blast goes out, but um I think they >> the week before.

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>> Yes, usually the week before, uh Peter. So, are you on our email list, Peter? >> I think it was last time I checked. >> Okay. All right. Anyone else? Okay, I'm going to close this portion the meeting to the public and our

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discussion item tonight is a proposed ordinance. Uh Steven Lore had sent me some information regarding data centers that I shared with our um solicitor and um so we have come up with a proposed ordinance amending and supplementing the code of

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the Township of Delanco to include and designate data centers as a non-permitted use in all zones within the Township of Delanco. And um I thought if everyone had a chance to review that, Doug reviewed it. I don't

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know Doug if you want to address it. >> Yeah, I do want to say a couple things. First of all, I can't go to a public meeting these days without data centers coming up. It is uh it is omnipresent and um

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there are a number of draft ordinances floating around. We looked at everything that we could find and uh and try to supplement what had been provided to us to get the best uh draft before you for for what our community

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uh needs. Um the one thing I want to emphasize is that we if somebody came today with a proposed data center we would take the position that it's not a permitted use in town.

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Um when our ordinances are drafted, we can't anticipate every future use. We don't know what technology may bring. Uh and you know, these uh data centers are clearly new uses with significant

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uh energy demands, utility demands, and and impacts on the on the surrounding properties unlike other uses that are already regulated and permitted in the zone. So um I say that because

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in New Jersey, there's something called the time of application rule where a developer can actually submit something and take the position that they have the ability to proceed with their application even if the municipality later amends the zoning. And I don't want the impression to be on

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the record that we're doing this because we don't think we're already treating these as not permitted uses. However, there's nothing there's no downside to us recognizing that these new uses exist. And to be very clear that we are we are

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uh declaring them as a recognized but also not permitted use in any zone in the district in any district in town. Um Uh so, I just want to be clear again. We're we're we're being proactive, but we are already of the position that we

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uh we do not permit these in town as of today. If there are any questions, I'd be happy to try and answer them. I think at the end of the day, this ordinance actually is pretty simple. It's just it's just defining uh

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the the data centers and then and then making them an uh not specifically recognized non-permitted use. We do have a section of our code that lists prohibited uses and this would be added to it. Uh >> This was actually a model ordinance that

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I shared from a Southern Man state. >> Yeah, so there are this ordinance I've seen the the model that I saw, the Pinelands Preservation Alliance is circulating one. >> the one I sent. >> Yeah, Pemberton has uh basically a a version of that adopted. We went

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beyond our area to look at other places as well and then we added additional elements that we felt were appropriate. >> So, I don't think there's anything that opens us up any kind of lawsuit in the future with adopting this, right? >> No, and again, um it's sort of restating

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or more clearly stating our current position. The The only thing I will say, just so the public is aware, is um what the ordinance does is recognize the use and declare it as a not not a permitted use. That doesn't mean that somebody can't

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propose that use by way of use variance before the joint land use board. And the that's just the way the law works in New Jersey. Somebody can always come in and seek a use variance from what your zoning permits.

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Um somebody could come in and propose to put a Ferris wheel in their front yard. It's not going to get approved, but they have the legal right to file the application. So that's uh it's an an extreme example, but and

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again, you know, I think it would be a very, very heavy lift for somebody to get a data center approved in Delanco. Um but they have the right to apply for it. So I don't want somebody to see, you know, if somebody did apply for it, to say, "Oh, I thought we stopped that." We We're stopping it as much as we can, but people still have rights to pursue

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applications. >> I think there's a lot of misconception that you can actually retrofit an existing warehouse for a data center, and that is not correct. It has to be built from the ground up. So any vacant warehouse that we have cannot be converted to a data center. And honestly, we have no additional vacant

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land that would be available for a large data center. So I don't really think this is a huge issue for Delanco, but I think this ordinance is more of a statement um than anything that shows that we are not in favor of this along with a lot of other towns in New Jersey. >> [cough and clears throat] >> And across the country, honestly.

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>> who owns a warehouse can come in, as Doug said, and apply for anything they want to change, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen, but they still have the right to do so. But anyway, as a matter of uh record, uh if anybody doesn't have any questions regarding this ordinance,

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um I thought it would be a good idea to have this ordinance set out for first reading tonight and have a second reading. Uh, it would probably be ordinance 2026-10. >> Yes. >> Okay, and the second reading by um

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>> July 13th. >> July 13th. >> That um gives us time to send it to Joint Land Use Board for >> Right, cuz they would have to review it to see if it's consistent with the master plan. Okay, so um So, at this time I would ask

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>> exactly. Do you want to just read that by title? >> You can read it, Beth. >> All right, so that would be uh ordinance 26-10 amending and supplementing the code of the Township of Delanco to include and designate data centers as a non-permitted use in all zones within the Township of Delanco. This is first

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reading by title only and set public hearing for July 13th, 2026 at 7:00 p.m. And then we would need a motion and a second to >> I'll make a motion. >> Second. >> Roll call. >> Mr. Bartlett.

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>> I'm I'm going to vote no and not because I don't disagree with this, but we've had zero discussion on this. We've had zero opportunity to do any research on this. We've had zero anything until this showed up in our agenda package this

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past Friday. So, there's been no discussion. I'm voting no cuz we haven't talked about it. >> We just talked about it, but anyway >> conversation for a 2-page ordinance banning something is not a conversation, Kate. >> Okay. >> Mr. McFadden.

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>> Yes. >> Mr. O'Leary. >> Uh, yes. >> Ms. Zuccarello. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Beth. >> Yes. >> Um, I wanted to bring up another discussion item, um, if I may, Mayor. >> Sure. >> Um, I was contacted by a resident, um,

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regarding the parking restrictions on the streets leading to Delaware Avenue on that first block. There's no parking uh between the hours of 9:00 uh 9:00 p.m. and 8:00 a.m. Is that correct, Chief? 9:00 p.m. Um she had brought up that she wanted to drive from another part of town and park down in that area

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to kind of watch the sunrise in the morning and that she wasn't able to even do that until 8:00 a.m. So our our noise ordinance also permits contractors to start working at 7:00 a.m. and they would not be able to park in that general area to work on any

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homes until 8:00 a.m. So I'd like to propose a change to that ordinance that it it moves gets moved back to 6:00 a.m. to allow for parking earlier for specifically for residents if they'd like to visit the river area or walk along that area and also for contractors. It wouldn't be an expense

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really to change the sign from 8:00 to 6:00, but I think it would make more sense for us to allow residents and contractors at 6:00 a.m. instead of 8:00. >> So where are those signs actually located? >> All the street. >> It's all the street at >> between 2nd and Delaware.

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>> Okay. >> All along the road. >> All along there. There's no parking except by permit only. >> For the residents only. >> p.m. to 8:00 for residents only. >> I'd go one step further. I'd say a half hour prior to sunrise. You know, if she wants to watch the sunrise, she's not going to be able to if we make it at 6:00 because

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sunrise is I woke up at 4:30 this morning and it was pretty bright. >> Yeah. Is that is that something that makes sense for us? >> have people parking out there like after midnight 1:00 when the Township Committee decided on this. It's a package deal. It's I I feel it's too late because one of the other one of

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the other problems that residents were having with the ordinance the way it's written, especially even with the permit parking that was placed last well, not last year in 24 Orchard, Vine, and Walter is that a resident could be home or at work on Friday

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and 1:30 in the afternoon and say, "Hey, let's have some family over tonight." Oh, that's right, we can't because if the Township building's closed, so they can't get extra permits. So, now they're forced now to have their relatives that they do come park on the 200 block of Vine, which

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impacts the parking of those residents. So, >> So, are you saying they can't get permits? >> Not when the Not when the township building's closed. >> Oh, but they have to have permits in advance because >> Extra ones. Extra. Extra. You You only get a certain amount. So, I'm saying for

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someone who lives here in town, cuz I've gotten these complaints, that they can't even be spontaneous with their own property and have family over because if they by chance don't call before 12:30, they can't get extra permits. But then if their family comes, like I said, they're coming, but now

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they're impacting parking for other residents on other blocks of the town. >> So, maybe we should issue more permits than we did. I don't know how many permits did we initially issue when >> or at the just the time cuz they issue that from 6:00 p.m. on Friday to 8:00 a.m. on Monday morning,

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you can't park there without a permit. It's for the whole weekend. >> I don't know. >> I'm sorry. I I think Chief, we're talking about the the second street. >> Yeah, he's talking about this in addition >> I'm saying in addition in addition. Okay. All this is These are the calls I've been getting for the last month and a half. So, they're all >> I I don't think what we did by you know,

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limiting parking there really did anything except push people back a block, which causes more issues for the people that are already having parking problems on that block that are wall-to-wall cars now. I don't think what we did fixed anything or prevented anything. >> what we did fixed people who weren't

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residents >> They weren't Nobody was parking there. We didn't >> Well, but that's not what was brought to our attention at the at the meeting, the public meeting. They said that other people were parking there. They even gave examples of people dragging things up on Hawk Island

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>> No. >> and dressing their kids down in the street. I mean, that was the public meeting. >> was before we actually owned the property and governed it and had signs. >> was when we were making the ordinance. We were preparing the ordinance. We set the signs all as a result of those

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public meetings and what the residents were saying. >> But but every time we we responded out there to police wasn't the case. >> Right. So, I think the ordinance prohibiting a lot of things at at Hawk Island and now having

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the trails, I think it's really cleaned up what was happening out there. Um if you think we don't need permit parking >> I saw what I said. I said we can we change the timing? Not to get rid of permit, the timing cuz like I said >> Yeah, we changed the timing. >> The timing is the issue.

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>> Whatever is more convenient for the residents, that's what we're trying to do here. That was the whole thing of Hawk Island, opening it up but yet having rules in place, having the parking issues taken care of just like with the Delaware Avenue residents. Uh

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or people coming in parking on the side streets. I mean, we're trying to to make life easier for the residents, not more difficult. >> And but it's it it's made it more difficult. >> So then put something together that we will change that. I don't think anybody up here has any objection to that.

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>> Right. Cuz that's the issues they they're they are cuz like even the residents who live on Vine and Walter, they we asked them, "Well, can we get permits?" But no, cuz you don't live >> Right. >> on Orchard. >> Yeah. >> They weren't permitted. So now again now they're impacted cuz now people are parking >> like talk to Brandy. Brandy will tell

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you how it is on her street. >> Okay. All right. So, we'll review that ordinance and make some changes. >> good. Yeah. It would be it would help. >> Okay. >> So, and maybe change it from uh the parking on Del- the Delaware Avenue block to Sunrise. >> Yeah.

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>> Yeah, absolutely. That would that would be >> Yeah, we could do that. >> work on that and have maybe have something for the next week. >> Yeah, for the we could have that maybe for July. >> Yes. >> Beth, okay. >> Can we have it at the June meeting so that they could have it for the summertime? >> Yeah, they could yeah, cuz we have another The this month, June the 29th.

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>> You got the guys fishing, they can't go out early in the morning they have to wait till they have to wait till after 8. >> I can't. Yeah, that's the best time to fish, right? >> Yeah, that makes sense. Okay. >> But again, we want our residents to enjoy the area. >> Exactly. >> And they're out all this money to make

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trails, to make the area nice. Let's let's make it more convenient. >> That's fine. Thank you, Mayor. >> And just so you know, Mayor, the reason why they were calling me was because they were fear of getting the summons. >> Yeah. >> here overnight. >> Well, that's yeah, well, that's the only way we find out what's going on. So, if

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it needs to change, we'll change it. Good. Anybody else have anything? Okay. A motion to adjourn? >> So moved. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> Aye. >> Aye. >> They don't say nothing.

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Coming to rough you up, Chief.