Delano Township committee meeting of December 2nd 2024 beginning at 7 p.m. at the Delano Township Municipal Building 770 coopertown Road Delano New Jersey doing nothing the public par all of course mayor you are recording I hear
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evening welcome to the December 2nd 2024 Township committee meeting held at scheduled for 7:00 p.m. at the municipal building starting at 7:15 770 coopertown Road in Delano can I have a roll call
please Janice M P here Mr alette here M Seuss here Mr templon Mr bartl here also present Mr Schwab our Township administrator Mr Fox our engineer Mr heinold our solicitor Mrs
lore our municipal clerk Mrs Russell our Deputy municipal clerk Mr fenmore our superintendent of Public Works Lieutenant Warren from the police department that's everybody right all right please rise for the
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proceed in person as an official meeting in accord with the official notice thank you first item on the agenda is the 2025 Community Development Block Grant application public hearing Ing and we will is there any preliminary
statement on that Janice before we open it to the public I'm sorry is there a preliminary explanatory statement before we open the meeting to the public um I think if if Harry would just like to go over what the application what the proposed application will be I think that that be
great Harry have the public hearing um this is for Community Development block grant into the mic here uh it's long enough and uh it's it's Federal money it's it's hard money that the county
disperses through to the individual municipalities um and it has to be used for low moderate income designated areas or for uh handicap handicap accessibility um so our census track in
blo there's no areas of qualifying for for this grant so what we do is we apply for handicap accessibility to reduce the barriers to handicap individual um in this case we're doing curve ramps we've done this
past several years or one year that that didn't award it but previous years we've done this and it's the the corner curb ramps um we replace them with Ada um approved
ramps you see it at there there's ramps with their little domes that no one knows what they are little bumps on the ramps that's called called trunk a they're required for the blind um and for wheelchair they have to meet certain slopes and and grades um to meet the
standards so there are some areas in town that don't have any existing ramps PR ramps and there other areas where there are existing ramps but they do not meet the cter code so they'll be replaced um this grant the grant is due on December
20th um so we keep that prepared and get that in we're going to apply um my report actually had 17 ramps but if looking at it we're going to apply for 24 ramps and how it works is whatever money we get then we can do whatever
ramps we can do for that I didn't want to get stuck in case they gave us extra money for some reason I doubt it but you never know um so the ramps are uh on the corners B and Oakford Delaware and Center Delaware and
Edgewood uh Pennsylvania and Larchmont Pennsylvania and delw second and Union R cus and Buttonwood R cus and Poler copford and Hickory uh and second and
wal they're the ramps that we're applying for and once we we have we get the Grant and we see have the money R we can pick and Che what of those grants are actually going to do um so what this is this is a public hearing it's required for the grant process so if
anyone has any comments on the Grant application to speak up uh if not we just uh me resolution to um okay was just double- checking the map when you said Oakford and Hickory I had to think of where that was I forgot
that little section intersects there by the uh ball fields okay yeah all right uh anyone have questions on committee before we open the hearing to the public just something that popped into
my head can can those funds the the uh uh block rant funds be merged in with Road program monies so when you're doing the road you could use that money to offset just for the ramp portion of it and maybe stretch our dollars a little
further it it it can but it's it's it gets real much we we actually um you you you can have um different stacks of funding but we did try that one time to to be able to
try to get better uh bid and U bid results and pricing but the project uh ran late and we missed a cdgb deadline a HUD deadline and we actually then in the next round had a 30% penalty so we
really don't want to um you know mix those funds because you've got to you've got to keep uh cdgb funds on a very strict deadline process and if you run into trouble on a road project that you know is larger in scope and miss a cdtv
deadline you could uh lose out on future funding um so that that's what Harry was saying very cautionary to do something like that yeah no it's I know we had discussed it it's always better you you talked about this a couple months ago earlier in the year it's much better to
do those ramps at the time you're doing the road because you can you can get the grades correct and the slopes and everything else rather than coming in after the fact and doing the ramp and then trying to match the existing topography yeah that's that's typically the best way to do it but just timing
wise doesn't work out but but we there are ramps out there that need to be replaced that are in our road program and not in this so yeah we will when we do our V we do replace the r yeah the public work sub committee uh sat down and went over everything with you exactly what roads were doing what PS is
doing to try to match up to make sure it made sense from a planning standpoint like we know what next year we're we're proposing to do with public money and then our private money so we try to try to make it make the most sense yeah all right thank you Harry uh I will
open up this hearing to the public for the year 2025 uh Community Development block crant application we comments or questions on this application uh come to the microphone give your name and address for the record it's all not rush at once all
right seeing no one we will close this meeting to the public uh do we need a roll call to move forward on this Jen see one on the agenda you have a resolution 20 right it's right below it all right yeah that'd be great can we have a motion on
your first day it's my first day committee yeah am I awake the answer is no it was a long weekend resolution 2024-the application for a grant from Community Development Fund can I have a motion please so move second motion by
Miss Seuss second by Miss Fitzpatrick roll call please Janice Miss Fitzpatrick yes Mr Al yes Miss Seuss yes Mr tumbleton yes Mr Bartlett yes and for the record mayor I just want to report um on cdgb that um I attended along with
Alex Alex Hafner a mandatory uh tech technical meeting last week a four cdtb so we have met that requirement that we um that Representatives have to attend that meeting in order to be eligible for that round of funding for this next
round of funding okay very good thank you all right uh meeting is now open to the public for comments and questions on anything else this is session number one if have any comments or questions again approach the podium give your name and address for the record and there will be
another session towards the end of the meeting as well meeting's open to the public seeing the same Rush of people come up as we did for the previous application I.E no one we will close this portion to the public and we'll go
to comments and reports uh we'll start with our professionals and Mr Fox thank you may um there's not a whole lot to report on um since our last meeting been quick time between meetings
um but uh we did as car mentioned um we had a subcommittee meeting and K did you want to talk about the bark and your report or your timeline yeah I can okay yeah we don't have many reports tonight no but I I can I can talk about it save
you y so so actually I really don't cdbg we just talk about um so everyone have any report this time wow thank you boring month for you all right thank you Harry and we don't pay you by the word
so that works all right uh Mr heinold now to the person that you do pay by the work just a couple quick things um for those people who are following the uh Township's efforts to acquire 401 Creek Road
um there's nothing on the agenda formally about that tonight but I just wanted to alert you that that is still in motion there will be a matter relative to that before the planning board tomorrow night uh we have um administrative uh subcommittee meetings
with them set up to address some of the issues related to the matter and uh that includes a site inspection uh tomorrow um so there will be additional action on the agenda in two weeks relative to that and we do continue to
press forward in pursuit of that uh matter the only other thing I wanted to update again we we have this fourth round obligation that the legislature has indicated a relative to affordable housing um Delano is in excellent shape
relative to that issue because of the actions it took in uh round three um so we have uh uh a number slightly lower than anticipated per the uh the numbers that were issued by the
state and on top of that you know we're already in great position relative to what's been done in the past so we'll continue to update uh details on that and there will be governing body action in the New Year relative to compliance with that but um unlike a lot of other
towns the Lano has put itself in a very very positive position relative to the affordable housing issue and that's ahead thank you Doug and on that 401 Creek Road uh topic there will be a public hearing at the next committee meeting on December 16th mayor can I
give my report on the uh on project manager go ahead please okay so um on the 21st uh I met with Richard Scott Taylor and Harry Fox uh regarding um Waterfront Park down at zburg mansion
and uh we came up with the following timeline in order to get that project finished and and um on schedule so the Waterfront Park actually the park design of it um we have a timeline as follows so um by the 9th of this month we're
going to have our Professional Services proposal submitted um ER is actually going to handle the bid documents and the bid process with tailor design providing the specs will'll show the cost for design Administration and construction supervision on the 16th we'll have an a resolution on the agenda
um to do the approval for those um proposals January 30th uh we're going to run the uh bid process and there a bid to I'm sorry we're going to have a bid to advertise on the 1:30 and then on 24
we'll actually go out to bid um right now we don't have a pre- bid meeting uh need right now for the contractors February 20 25th uh bids will be due uh March 3rd we're going to award bids at our scheduled Township committee
meeting April 1st uh projects start um and we're going to also do the uh notice to proceed 90-day completion so we have a pretty tight deadline um and we're hoping to have everything completed by July 1st and uh depending on lead time
for the Gazebo so the Gazebo is kind of the snag in this whole project whether we're going to do a stick build if we're going to do a prefab uh if we're going to be able to purchase it because in order to meet this timelines um you're looking at like an 8 to 12 week we um lead time in order for the contractor to
order and have it installed and with a tight deadline he might not be able to meet that we're our goal is to have the park open by July 4th right so that the residents can enjoy it so the township might actually purchase that um separately and have the contractor install it but ultimately Scott Taylor
is looking into the best option for us um from a cost standpoint as well is what makes sense from a project management standpoint so uh after July 4th shortly after that on if everything goes well we'll look to have our dedication and Grand Opening Ceremony so
um yeah we went over a bunch of you know detailed specs about what we should do as far as lighting and steps and curb replacement when we do the street so it was a very technical meeting but it went really well and everybody seems to um
feel like they can meet those deadlines and I think we're in good shape right now um one other thing is we applied for the New Jersey American water bottle Filling Station Grant and when I say we it was actually through Del Riv daisa and they were awarded that grant for
$2500 to put a bottle filling station at the Field of Dreams concession stand outside on the left hand side if you're looking at it um we did get an estimate from the plumber to install that bottle filling station for 2750 so um Del Riv will be paying the plumber directly
$2,500 and then uh the township has you know everyone in school with it we can pay the $250 and um just wanted to let everybody know that that will be installed there's a 60-day deadline has to be installed now actually why they decided to make us install in the winter time is beyond me
cuz the water's off but um that's the uh that's the grant term so um I emailed the plumber to see when he can get out there and do that for us and then we'll be a photo up but um I think it'll be nice all the kids going to have a bottle Filling Station out there and the people that visit the park so I just wanted to
bring that to committees um attention Recreation is aware of it as well and if anybody has any questions or concerns happy to answer them congratulate Carolyn for submitting that Grant because uh that that's really
great for our kids that are playing out there and it was in New Jersey American um water companies their uh news drop they have every month that our town was listed in there the other towns that um that were granted the same type of um
Grant so thank you Carolyn oh of course happy to worked out it's actually Susan Mata that brought it to my attention she had emailed the committee so it had to be um applied for under a nonprofit so that's why we did it under no all right and um since you're talking
about the uh Waterfront Park are we going to be moving that fence back to the seaw walls for the so John should be so we're only going to move it back in the section where the 10 is going to be for the carriage rides okay there's enough section there yeah cuz we want to keep the grass sectioned off so it can
continue to do its thing okay so good where do you wanted at so where the tent is usually for the carriage rides just move the fence back far enough towards the sea wall so they can put the tent there check with Santa all the way down as far as 20 feet in it needs it's a 20
x 20 10 want it all the way down as far as it yeah talk to Phil just so I know yeah yeah we we'll figure it out all right uh Township administrator Richard the only thing is budgets
there's still a few department and offices that have not submitted their departmental budgets and hopefully we'll have all the organization budgets by the end of the year so I can put together the compilation and get it out to the government body in Jan I'll get you oems this week thank
you I didn't mean you for I'm sure you're $2500 budget ain't going to kill us all right anyone have any questions Richard all right uh department heads Lieutenant short turnaround from the
last meeting so have nothing to report well no crime we're not paying you by the word either all right uh Mr fenmore yes you pick up any leaves uh we gotta get microphone picking them up now P your mic down John down doing pretty
good um we've gotten so far to this year 1,080 yard yards so far leaves we got nine rows and that's three towns um uh but we're we're doing pretty good we we've never been around town
three times before Thanksgiving that's the first because of the dry leaves and uh um it's doing really well uh we've had the street sweeper outout and they've been cleaning up and uh getting a little stuff along the curb instead of
having the guys drag the hose down just makes it uh Bobby's got like 40 loads just in the the sweeper alone and they're they're pretty they're pretty much like I would say at least seven
yards of leaves in that they're compacted so it helps um I got the uh authorization to cut the Basin out of the field dra I mean that Newton's landing and the tree work should start I
got contracted in the did for tree work and that's going to be going out this week starting it'll be starting all right and that's it um I did notice I know we mentioned at the last meeting more and more people are still putting
brush out to the curb not leaves the yes if they if they want to bring them out to the garage they can bring them out to the garage but uh was worried about it'll be until we get all the leaves off the street I'm not going to send it you know so pain in the neck
because all the leaves get tangled up in the the brush you know yeah I just want to make sure we get that cleared before that four-letter word starts yeah rain no [Laughter] snow we will be putting on a salt
spreader this week on one of the trucks just to be prepared yeah it might SN Thursday use that word all right thank you John Janice oh I'm sorry John excuse me we going starting on the uh the pad for the
trailer tomorrow I'm going to start digging it out all right and then get this stone for it and okay I saw Kenny out there last week marking that out yeah we we ordered that right Richard we did the PO for that yeah I think we have
to determine that they understand how to handle that I Kate was need to talk to them so they understand if somebody's never done any business with the municipality they get a municipal po you might as well as we finding out another vendors you might as well uh not expect
the stuff so anyhow so we got to clear it with them make sure they understand where they're getting and so it's ready to be issued and I'll find out tomorrow I'm in the office for a weeks so okay great Jenice uh I have nothing at this time
um I don't know if anybody was going to report on because we don't meet again until the um before the tree lighting and the Christmas Village on the 15th correct right yeah yes so there will be um Delano's annual tree lighting on
December 15th at Gateway Park and the Christmas village with u vendors and just a good time so that is December 15th that did you have anything um just the carriage rides are going to be on Saturday the 14th and tickets are on
sale now at BR jewers get them while they still have them I bought mine today and he was starting to run low so uh go get them and uh on keeping on the Christmas spirit uh Santa Claus will be making his way around town on the fire trucks on the
21st so be on the lookout we'll be starting around 11:00 in the morning all right uh we at consent agenda uh consent agenda items are considered to be routine and will be enacted with a single motion any item requiring discussion will be removed
from the consent agenda all consent agenda items will be reflected in full in the minutes anyone have any comment or questions on the consent agenda need anything pulled all right uh resolution
[Music] 2024-25 to reviewing and approving the 2025 salary for the fire commissioners of of Fire District number one in Blanco Township resolution 2024-25
payment of bills current fund $692,000 122 payroll 8,775 45 Capital fund $ 23,9 22.35 escrow Trust
$2,877 50 cops care trust $1,333 33 I have a motion for approval of the consent agenda please Mo second motion by Kate second by Fern roll call
please Mrs Patrick yes Mr alette yes M Seuss yes Mr ton yes Mr Bartlett yes uh correspondant I have none okay meeting is open to the public for comments questions session number
two as in as is before if you have any comments or questions please approach the podium give your name and address for the record meetings now open to the public yes Ray we knew eventually you'd make it
up oh yeah want to thank John for name and address name and address we know who you are but Ray Weber 22 ships uh I want to thank John for getting authorization together for the cutting of the Basin because that's one of my things that came up um on Amry and
Newton's Landing I think you you were talking about redoing the curving along that one section of Newton's Landing would it be possible in order to help slow down some of the traffic some of the people coming in there because even though they've got the sign up uh
they're telling it speed limits 25 we still have people barreling through there and I I know the officers have been uh giving tickets out or Warnings or whatever as well as not stopping and they were told and everyone in the development was told about it would they
be able to put any soil cuts into that street in order to put like rumbl or something like that to slow them down something because you can't put humps in you can't put any of these Hills and Valleys type stuff in there we're looking for try somehow to slow down
some people I mean some of these senior citizens have lead feet those Soul Cuts is it's loud yeah when they go that's it I'm just looking for something to slow down and that that came out of our maintenance meeting today which I was on part of also you
know we're looking to try to figure out how to slow down some people and coming into development that's reason why I wanted to talk ask Harry about it and stuff possible the ho the res should affect anybody CL because it would just roll right over it you know with the
plow I would think yeah I don't know that the the cuts will do any any good um there are some traffic comy ideas that could be done but um yeah it's I know it's just one of
those things that the speed humps you ad missions with fire trucks and with plowing Etc um you can do bump outs narrow the street down um yeah but that's another problem for plowing yeah I know that's just sing saw cuts you
know like like they have in other other areas in other towns also they've done the same darn thing in Delan in moristown in pton in Cherry Hill they've done that in order to slow down people
from bow and throat they've also put it put humps in there not just like the short hump but like the long ones like have down at the airport and stuff in there just to try to slow people down so they go down that's that's what're I'm trying to come up with ideas to try to
help some the even though I tell the residents sometimes I might as well talk to myself Ray you can you can uh and you can ask the lieutenant about this but people speed on all the streets in town I mean it's not just Newton land
Boulevard and it's I mean I have a real short Street and it's amazing they have to go to the marina a lot of them during the summer with the boats and they just whip around that corner oh yeah it's amazing so it you know it's just
something that you can just keep educating your residents about it and that's about it and put this put the speed sign out there the um the vehicle yeah they they have that out there right now it doesn't I mean I've seen people come I know they still don't do it but I
just I just know that we have that issue in Delano all over and we just can't do those s Cuts everywhere yeah I'm just trying to come up with ideas yeah I understand I thank you and the last
thing I have is the in last month's meeting were talking about storm water ordinance I know that the state himself has I've read that ordinance from the state all the information on storm water ordinance was required we just don't want to make sure
that you dummy down a storm water ordinance just to get it past so that you say oh yeah I have a storm water ordinance um oh trust me it's not dummy down I mean because what happens is the industry today and all these Builders
and lawyers and everybody else they pick each word apart on an ordinance and they'll crucify that word and then that's how they end up allowing things to happen and stuff like that you don't want to have a dummy down ordinance on there no Mr temp's done hours and hours of work on that to make sure it makes
sense and we're not trying to cut corners so he's done a nice job yeah I just want to make sure you know because I'm I'm afraid like what happens is like down in North wild they Dum me down an Ordnance down there not for storm water
but from other stuff and people are taking advantage of it and that's the only reason why I'm just saying because I go to meetings down there too well North wild has got his own set of problems down there so I'm not surprised yeah so but anyhow that's all I want to bring up thank you thank you Ray thank
you Ray thank you anyone else all right seeing none we will close this session to the public uh discussion items uh 2025 Township committee reorg and annual meeting
schedule I think everyone has a copy of the proposed schedule in your packets no no it's at the end there it right there yeah there was one question the September meeting on
September whether we have it on the 15th or the 29 yeah I had said move it to the 29th because 22nd was what yamor yes yeah yeah and I said move it to the 29th and then we can actually um have the October meetings a
little later maybe actually onor is until October 1st R sh I'm sorry if they didn't change the October meetings yeah did we want to move the October meetings to the 13th and 27th this way we have don't have three weeks
of no meetings into November that's a good idea instead of two meetings in a row yeah that's a good idea so the 29th the office is closed on the 13th y can't do it on 1 October
13 okay right to make it the 6th and the 27th and now that will be better yeah okay so the 6 and the 27th for October in October there's no reason to change the 20 it is because I don't want
to have three weeks of no meeting between October and November was my point because of the November meeting yeah because of the November meeting yeah that's fine why why don't we have uh two meetings in November the 10th and the year because of election day and election day would
be the yeah the third and then Veterans Day yeah and Veterans Day Veterans Day is on a Tuesday yeah but they're off on Monday are they off okay no I think I think we're off that Tuesday I know they celebrated on Tuesday
but I think we get the actual day from yeah so then why don't we have November meetings two November meetings then you want the 10th yeah the 17th I would do the I hate to do two back toback 10th and 17th but otherwise
then you're doing the 24th and the 1st for December do that okay so what so what's the October meetings then the 6th and the 27th or 6th and the 20th I would keep 6th and
20th and then do the 10th and the 17th of November you're going to have back to back in September and October too no you're going to have the 8th and the 29th September 29th and October 6th oh yeah so September 22nd we're not doing
because of Russia Shana m Rich what's the last day of rushishana it runs it's a week isn't it well 22nd starts that night the 22nd so it's the the daytime is 23rd and 24th but starts that night that's the
main okay starting point I mean know nothing illegal about just it's not going to be here yeah all right one of us are Jewish though so we at this 2 yeah all right so okay so Circle
back September 8th and 22nd 22 and then October 6th and 20th so just like it's shown yes and then do you want to do a November 10th meeting still we probably should this way you
don't go three weeks you can always put it on your regular schedule and then cancel it if you don't need it there you go we knew you were here for a reason yes either that or have the 10 have the 10th and then cancel the 17th if we don't need it not like we haven't had something to
do every meeting so I know but it's nice to have a break yes okay so we're going to do the 10th and the 17th in November yes that's what we're going to Okay so
for September you're staying with the 8th and the 22nd oh 22nd to the 8th and the 22nd y you're not moving it to the 29th
correct and October you're doing the 6th and the 20th you're not changing that right correct and November you're doing the 10th and the 17th and December is the 1st and the 15th yes yes is everybody okay with the uh budget
dates time yes Phil you okay and then reor is um January 2nd 2025 at 7 p.m. and your first regular business meeting is Monday January 6
2025 at 7 p.m. also to do you want to keep executive sessions the way you've been doing them advertise them that they would occur before could occur before a regular chall committing committee meeting starting as early as 5:30
p.m. that's fine um one question Richard about the budget schedule is said 44 introduced at regular meeting if necessary 44 is a Friday sorry the wrong date 4 seven uh I me seven seventh
okay take take that's all right you can come in the fourth if you really want come on Friday so everybody just changed that on there yeah 21st just thing it's not legal yeah yeah yeah I just was looking at my schedule because I'm away on the
fourth so all right thank you yeah okay otherwise it's a March 17th we're going to introduce if we have everything hope is we'll do it on the 17th but if that doesn't work yeah we've been pretty good the last couple years I don't know Phil might throw a wrench into
it he didn't even hear hear you I know okay anyone have any more comments or questions on the meeting schedule or the budget schedule no I'm good but I do have a question for Harry regarding the Ada
ramps I just got an email from a resident who was having trying to um watch the video and um I know I had asked about this some time ago uh West Avenue in Goucher yeah that's that's on the list
to do this year actually okay from from the 2024 Grant yeah because there are people that actually live there with that there's some people that live in that area that have wheelchairs and that's um it's been a problem yep that's already um being designed right now
actually okay great and that'll be done in the spring that'll be done in the spring good thank you all right does anyone have anything else before we go home I just realized we have hands on
back on the clock now on the wall and it's correct he did a good job he's standing behind it he's moving it find a repl for and just to let you know good is to cing uh for really working alternative
ative way to get that clock fixed because after contacting the vendor out in like Minnesota or whatever it was and to ship out the parts ship it back was going to be about $1,800 yeah so he worked with our
electrician and got a motor and got it fixed for a fraction and I mean a fraction of the cost that's great you just go to hoods and get a $20 clock and just have someone change the battery in the time stop a little mot so but he did
he did a very nice job with u you know working that out so it wasn't was very inexpensive it's always good to think outside of the box did anybody see the um field the dreams concession stand and sign oh the painting looks great looks amazing yes it does yeah the color
really turned out nice yep okay okay once we have anything else I will ask for a motion to adjourn so move second oh thank you God all in favor I I thank you very much everyone see you in two
weeks with your radio voice I don't have a radio voice so nobody