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like to call the uh meeting for the June 23rd 26 work session to order. May please join us in the pledge of allegiance. Pledge algiance to the flag of the United States of America. >> Those without saying because they are relatively new. So some of the

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municipalities are now trying to address them. What we do with this ordinance is kind of explained right in the title. We define and then prohibited during the center. So land use law is a little different than normal law. Generally in your code, if something is not listed as prohibited, that essentially means it's

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prohib permitted unless state law or something else prohibits it. uh with land use codes unless it's specifically permitted in a zone then that means it's prohibited so it doesn't meet that list it's prohibited a look at your code would seem to show that it doesn't

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encompass data centers hence it's not listed as a permitted use anywhere but what this ordinance does is provide a definition and then reaffirm that it is not a permitted use anywhere and then what it also does is reaffirms that somebody can't take a permitted use and

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essentially kind of back a data center into it So, uh, we can't say, hey, a warehouse is a permitted use. I'm going to get a warehouse approved in this zone and then all of a sudden back a bunch of servers into it or like a permitted telecommunication facility or something like that. So, it kind of just reaffirms

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what already exists in. >> Thank you. >> Sure. >> All right. Council comments, questions. Now, you know, this being a hot topic, what is the um any of these data centers, are they

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challenging any of these ordinances that municipalities are put forward? >> Not not that I've seen yet. I mean, there's been some talk of it. The only challenges I've seen have actually been on the other side. So, there's been residents that have challenged some of the ones that have opened that are operational.

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Whether it's a class action lawsuit or a nuisance type lawsuit, I've not seen any of the data center or anyone any of the stakeholders challenge any ordinances yet. I would imagine that would be forthcoming at some point because it looks like pretty much everybody's following suit. I think

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every town in Salem County has adopted an ordinance to prohibit them. Um so at some point I think the argument will become you know if we need this technology they need to be somewhere but that hasn't happened yet. >> Thank you. >> Do you see any statewide action on this?

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um only I mean only what the governor did which essentially um kind of seemed to echo what a lot of the towns were voicing that um you know we don't want to see these unless they're going to be paying their fair share whether that's in terms of some of the detriments that

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they create or things of that nature. So I mean the only move from the state has really been backing this type of action but again I have to imagine that's going to change at some point because this seems to be a technology that's needed but nobody Well, I think the uh the consequences of

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uh establishing data center have to do with uh you know, obviously power. >> Yes. >> You know, and I've read the water is also a big issue. >> An area where they have uh one of these now that people are getting triple out of their water faucets. Plus, the cost of that will be going up tremendously

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because they have to either expand the services or charge more for the services. >> Yeah. And it's kind of changed from the older data center maybe about a decade or 15 years ago, there was kind of a push for data centers, but at that time it was more a kind of cloud-based

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computer server. So when we started shifting to Amazon and things like that, it was kind of just a a big building that was full of servers. It was relatively quiet. It didn't use all of the water. But this newer AI intelligence data center, which we which

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we define here, seems to be much more intensive. even sound uh pollution. >> That's well that's what the class action lawsuit down in Bland is. A lot of the residents are hearing this coming. So they filed a nuisance lawsuit based on that.

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>> Yeah. At first I was uh you know kind of say well you know let's create an environment where we can entertain that. Uh if they would have their own power supply and all that but with the water and the other noise issues I'm not sure you know where that could be put in. Del wouldn't be too close to a residential

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space. That's kind of what this ordinance allows you to do, too. Because sometimes what they're doing is trying to make sure that they make a statement that they're not permitted anywhere. So, it kind of puts a pause on it, but then it gives you some time to, you know, maybe find zones if in fact you did want

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to allow them somewhere, but gives you some time to find them before somebody comes in and finds use where it is permitted and gets an application. >> One other clarifying question. So if [clears throat] let's say uh a neighboring town like someone there's a

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parcel that you know piece in Delan and piece in the neighboring town if the neighboring town allows >> yes >> data centers but we don't like how would that >> um so the neighboring town's ordinance would govern as long as that project is solely in that town and as long as it doesn't cross over at all. It would be

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solely under the jurisdiction of that town. But anyone within 200 ft, even if they're in this town, would get public notice and you as elected officials would get public notice, too. Um, so if that were to occur, really the remedy would be for anyone who has an interest to show up at that town's meeting and

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express your concern because again, it would be a public hearing. >> I have a question. >> Sure. >> Um, and I'm not sure if you can answer it right now, but why is it that every town Why are they looking to put a data

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center in every town? Is that necessary? >> Um, I don't know if they're looking to put them in every town. I think as a technology is growing and and I'm not in the technology, so I'm kind of I think as it's growing, a lot of property owners are looking maybe to take advantage of this potential tenant or

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this potential purchaser and the stakeholders are looking to get them built as quickly as possible too to get ahead of the curve. Uh, kind of like what happened with warehouses when that was kind of a and now a lot of them are sitting empty. Um, so I think people see this new wave of technology and are

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jumping in to kind of find a spot for them and kind of get ahead of the curve really. >> Okay, one more question >> and I'm not sure if you can answer that either. Um but given all that we've seen in the news about the negative um

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feedback from having to do the center down um what are the pros and cons of having >> Sure. So I think the cons I mean I think we know from from some of the news just

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some of the nuisance stuff and the use of the utilities and any of that other stuff. The pros would be just the availability of the technology. I think we all use it and it has to be somewhere. So that's what we're all going to have to sort out I think in the near future

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>> and the employment there's there's not a great deal of employees at these sites either. >> Yeah that's the other thing. Yeah. In fact, one of the um some of the older ones that were just the cloud computing, that was a lot of times how it was presented to towns. It was it's going to be a building. It's going to be quiet. Nobody's going to be there. There won't

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be any traffic, but you'll get a raidable. So, you're right. It really isn't. Really? >> Question. I'm sorry. >> So, is it true that it takes up um cost for electricity for residents a lot? >> Um that I don't know. I mean, I know

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they use a lot of electricity. I would assume they pay for their electricity, so I don't know. costing residents, but from what I've heard, it could have something to do with some of the PSEG rising rates in the AC electricity, but I don't know for sure.

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Anything else? Okay, let's move along to uh proposed ordinance temporary modifications to hours of sale for alcoholic beverages. Uh it's been requested by in some cases to have a temporary extension of hours

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maybe due to an event or some special situation. Uh does anybody have comments or questions on that? >> I know this was something that we discussed some years ago and I think it was they wanted to open up some kind of

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event on a Sunday. I think the township doesn't allow anything for 12 or 1:00 and um we allow them to do that. Um I don't you know we do this on a it's a

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case by case situation so which is good. I like that in the ordinance. Um and it gives the council the flexibility of denying or approving and depending on the situation. Um I don't I don't have a problem with this. I I think they the

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bar owners in town do a really good job. I don't think we ever had much problems with the police going into whether it's don or for a lot of commotion or ruckus. So um as long as the police department I don't think they have an objection. I

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Jamie I don't know if you spoke to the chief but I I personally don't have an objection to something. >> Just so you know what this ordinance does is it kind of reaffirms what your practice is already. in the past. What you've done for events like this is you guys would adopt a resolution that would

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allow just modification to the hours. Um what this ordinance does is really just codifies it. It says if somebody wants to do that, they can come to you. You have the power by this ordinance to adopt a resolution and it also makes it clear that doesn't authorize you to do that either. I think we could also get

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input from the police department and EMS whoever you know might be appropriate to uh shed light on the application when it comes in. >> Anything else? >> And also you I mean part of it is you know the township preserves the right to revoke, suspend or modify any

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authorization granted pursuant to the subsection. So we have that flexibility as well. >> Yeah. All righty. Our next discussion will be uh on the resale inspection. We had that revised and uh

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we had that revised and um I don't know if there's any further comments on that discussion. some of the um the inspections for um that I was looking at was the fire

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extinguisher thing that I needed. Um is that something that would be done by our fire department? Do they do that already or not? >> Yeah, fire department. Currently all we have all we require of a resale of a residence or a change in rental is requirement to have a smoke detector,

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carbonoxide detector, a fire extinguisher and in 4in letters on the house. So [snorts] that's that's where that's what we do at this point and do it through the fire department. And um as far as the inspection, electrical,

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things of that nature, um is that what we have our code or electrical inspector that does the inspections? Now, Jamie, on permits, things of that nature that will comply. Um well I don't believe we would have every inspector go out there in terms of like fire electrical would

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be just one um like housing inspector >> in the knowledge of electrical that's what I just like me >> doesn't know you know you join >> so I'm just saying um

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>> okay >> Mr. Lman put together a nice list of the items that will be looked at you know it's not includes every little item, but includes most the items and gives parameters for the inspections when we do go out. And as we noted last time,

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the fees have been lowered to be more reflective of other towns that are that are close by us. >> Yes. >> Does fire department charge for that in charge? >> I'm not sure what it is today.

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>> I was going to say we can ask They're in the crowd. [laughter] >> How much? >> 45. >> 45. >> So, there would be two costs, right? The fire department inspection and the cost of this, which is what we said, $25 or >> No, it's 125. >> 125.

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>> Yeah. >> Mr. President, if I may, we used to be lower, but the state said we charge too little. >> From what I remember. >> Thank you, J. It's not public comment yet. Um, all

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right. Any more discussion on uh on that item inspection? >> I just have a comment. You know, as long as we do it right. >> Absolutely. Well, that's why we worked it over. We discussed that we have a list of items that we know we're looking

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for. It'll it'll improve or maintain uh the level of our housing in Bel. I said when I was in real estate uh Willingboro was a tremendous mess because people were flipping houses and the lease

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inspections weren't done before the owners the new owners moved in and they were finding all kinds of problems and prices and houses were going down. They changed it. They got really tough. I mean much much more difficult than this and housing values and quality is not

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>> I know the mayor has spoken about this in meetings. I just was wondering how he feels about this particular ordinance because I know he was somewhat opposed to it and want to discuss it. Um I've got so many things [laughter] but it's so cold in here I don't want to

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extend the meeting. Um I'm going to start right at the top. So I'm glad you guys are here with the fire department for your inspections. I guess these first two he's not going to be inspecting these things. The fire department's going to be inspecting the carbon monoxide detector, the placement,

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the portable fire extinguishers. >> That's all part of yours. >> You know, I'm not certain. I'm not sure if uh or uh inspectors can do that or would the fire officials need to do that. >> I'm sure I understand. Uh they're saying

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moving forward with this expanded inspection, will the fire department do the fire carbon monoxide and uh smoke detector inspection or will the inspector do that as part of this larger inspection? >> The fire department would do that,

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>> right? Because I know they always give a written report as well >> approval. Okay. >> Yeah, that's something we could talk to Bill about. I mean, I'm I'm sure these are just items that are on, >> you know, routine that he's done in other towns that he does in other towns.

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So, he put this together, but um >> Well, they'll be done by It depends on who. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I think I have another question. And I'm glad that Al, you're here because I'm going to ask this because every time we look at this ordinance, it looks like we're just cramming something else down people's throats.

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Is there a way this that this becomes a service rather than a forcing people to take it where the home buyer says the township offers this service I would like to utilize it? >> Um I mean if that's what you as a group wanted to do you could turn it into

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something like that. I think it came to you guys from the construction department because their goal was to make it something that's mandator it did. >> But I mean you you guys control it. >> Well I think if you make it selected you know what's going to happen. Well, I think if I think if I'm buying a house

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and the township offers an opportunity to have their construction official, I listen, I might pay the $125. You might I just >> I I don't I I don't think it would be fair to say that it would be a voluntary uh then it would not maintain the

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standards that we have set. >> I do like that he did drop this down. There's not a lot on this checklist. >> Yeah. Well, yeah. you know, we try to be more consistent with other townships. Any other comments, questions? >> Yeah, in response to the mayor, I think

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that it could present additional liability issues if we provide this as a home inspection service. Buyers are going to rely on it um instead of perhaps getting a full house inspection,

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>> which may be to their detriment. Also, concerned about the extra time that would be taken away uh from because I know he's busy already. >> Well, I don't know it's extra time if it's if somebody requests the service. I mean, this is he's going to do it on

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everyone. So, there's additional time there anyway. And I understand why he put the why he's going for this because he has a he has a job he has to do and I understand right now he doesn't feel like he has the tools to do it. But I guess I'm not sure what your

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concern is. If you were a home buyer, you would want to use this. >> Oh, if I was buying a home in Delran and this and the town offered, >> but mandatory, >> that's that's that's the problem. It's the mandatory. Now, let's put myself in the other side of that. Now, I bought a

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home that was built in 1962. >> Very good year. was a great year, but I don't know what work I I can't say what work was done in my home before I bought it. So now there's a mandatory inspection and they come in and they

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say, "Well, I looked at the original plans. That wall wasn't there. That hot water heater wasn't replaced." >> Well, it's covered in the ordinance that's covered. It says that no prior prior to your ownership, you wouldn't be responsible for that. >> Right. >> Right. And listen, I understand you at

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this point. It's you've got the ordinance written and you guys are going to be voting on that. I just I'm going to tell you my opinion of it. I'm still not behind it yet. >> I just have one observation. Um when a person's buying a home that thinks you

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must do that is mandatory. And when I'm buy when I bought my home, I didn't say I didn't think it was too much on me to make sure I follow what the realtor suggested. what was required. So there's a lot of things we do that's mandatory,

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right? And if it's in our best interest, right, we do that. So I just want to say um even buying a home is already mandatory. >> So it's basically same thing for

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people's safety. I mean, I'm not arguing against anything, but I'm just saying a lot of times um when we're talking about things, we tend to forget the other part of what we're talking about. There are things that we do that are mandatory and we do them, you know, we don't complain.

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We don't say it's infringing upon our rights and stuff because in the long run is for our benefit. And now it's stop >> and and this you know this is something that is throughout not just the state of New Jersey but uh you know other states but in the state of New Jersey it's

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quite common to have these inspections uh by the township and it's for the reason I stated you know you and I think uh I think councilwoman Cure mentioned the fact that if people think they can come and this will be their inspection and they don't get a qualified home

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inspector to come through and do a very thorough inspction which to do. They might be something on the table. >> Yeah, I I kind of still um I kind of like the idea maybe um somebody signs a waiver to wave it if we

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so desire. I'm a little concerned about the legality of it spoke about something that could put us in possible litigation something right. Um I do get the idea of it and

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everything but I do still have some reservations but that's where >> any other comments questions >> just probably going to reiterate things that I've said before but because

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they're looking at safety issues and conditions that don't code changes that were done by an unlicensed person that are not done um in a safe

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mode. I just think this um can prevent fires and floods in homes. Um and it might not be the homeowner themselves that's selling that made

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those changes. could be a prior home learner. Um, and I think that starting this now, you know, in 20, 40 or more years, the township will have a record of changes that were made from buyer to

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buyer to buyer. We'll more easily be able to tell when the changes were made and who did them. I think initially we're going to get a lot of people through this round going and that wasn't um but I still think that the safety

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factors that Mr. Lman has addressed or outweighing concerns even as to price because even selling a house is expensive.

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Nothing is great anymore. Um, and I think this is a modest amount. I was glad that we reduced it. Um, understanding that the fire department also charges and that's also been a safety. Um, so I wish we could offer it

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for free, but we can't. So, >> I I I agree with what you're saying and you know, ordinances and laws are created and passed for reasons. You know, they don't just come out of the blue. Usually some I should say mostly

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there's some reason to have an ordinance or a law created issues that have been created. All right. Anything else? All right. Let's move along to our capital budget. Jim, you want to uh give us a little work on that?

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>> Um yeah, but real quick, can we do um FG and H along with D all together? Um and then we'll move the bonds out the sewer debt to the end. >> All right. These are all kind of capital items. So, if we can just run through these, that would be great. And then we'll get them.

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>> Yeah. >> Um Okay. So, in your packet, this is the proposed um capital budget. This is what was presented by the department heads um prior to the introduction of the budget. This gives us a a guidance on, you know, the amount we need for down payment

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money in the general side and, you know, what we're what they're proposing for the year. Um once we adopt the budget, we come back to council because that's just the plan at that point. Um we come back to council to review the items one last time before we put the bond ordinances in place. So I don't know if

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you want to go down the down the list or how you want to >> do we want to go down the list or question. >> Okay. All right. So let um the top says 2026 proposed general capital. We'll start there. Um

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and the roadway projects that we have um for this year, we have the 2026 road improvement program. The remainder that we need for Greenwood Avenue and Hannes Mill Road, which is just engineering only. And I think that's for would that be future grant project?

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>> That's just the for the bid phase. Um that doesn't include the the construction side and that has a a um I will confirm, but we have a couple hundred,000 grant for that. Doesn't cover the whole cost, but covers Great. That's good news. >> Do you want to stop there if anybody has

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any questions on roads or do you want to go down the whole list? >> Go ahead. >> Okay. Okay. So, the next item in the drainage projects, we have miscellaneous drainage improvement, CCTV, and inlet retrofitting. They are mandates, I

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believe, from the D coming down, but Ed can probably speak more on that. But um I'll just read the four and then Ed can chime in. Um we have 82 Haynes Mill Road. We have a stream bank stabilization project that needs to be completed. Seven South Bridge I is also

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a storm water project and um the river uh drive stream bank stabilization. So this is the remainder of the money that is being requested from the Army Corp. >> Okay. I was wondering what that was. >> So I'll start from the bottom up. So the the 132550 is is uh the the exact amount

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for needs to continue their study um and get it through the finish line. Um 7 South Bridge and 82 Hannes Mill um they're both um issues related to um residential impacts ultimately from

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municipal um related storm sewer. um specifically 82 Haynes Mill Road if you all recall. Um that is the property that had the water running through the house and had the erosion. We actually have an emergency authorization under D. We have all our permits. We had actually gone out to receive quotes and we exceeded

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our bid threshold last year, hence why it's um included in this. And then for the miscellaneous drainage, CCTV and inlet retrofitting um D has a mandated um upgrade of our existing inlets that

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is due by the end of 2027. Um roughly speaking, we have about half the inlets in town that need to be addressed um that haven't been addressed as part of previous road programs, etc. >> When you say addressed, what do you mean by address? >> But essentially, the DP the intention is is DPW should be able to utilize a state

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contract to get inlet plates. Um, so we have a few of them around town. We're basically bolt on and that would be uh compliant. >> And then there's a couple um alcohol replacement projects that have been pulled in there and discussed to uh group together

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>> 132,000 on the river drive. Is that in addition to what the 600,000 we've already >> that's No. So that's 600 and change that that was identified was broken up into I think three. >> Yeah, I think this. >> Yeah. So this is the last installment of that water. for the for the feasibility

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study. >> Right. >> Question. So, um let's say to get paid next week. >> So, you're referring to the River River Drive. >> Yes. >> Yes. So, I'll give my update now on that. So, I met with the Army Corps uh

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yesterday. Um they're progressing along. Um I should have a draft report um within the next couple weeks. they're they're having to review by their internal group right now. Um after there's some back and forth with our office, the township and and the core,

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they will have a draft um an actual draft or public comment ready by the fall. Uh the intention is to have them here for a workshop meeting in either September or October to present the plan. Um so they can, you know, the public around here can give a comment

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beyond having to go online and and make a comment there. Um so from that point they're they're still on track um assuming that everything goes as planned and they they have their um component from the township by around like August

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uh to to have everything done by first or second quarter 2027 for the final lines report. >> Thank you. >> And on the 82 road stream bank I wasn't a member of council I think is that when we had that heavy rain and

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then like August 2024. >> Yeah. And because I remember and what was it? It overflowed the banks because there was debris in that stream of the homes. >> Yeah. The upstream portion of the culvert got clogged over topped and ended up running through their house.

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>> And this this um $155,000 that we're going to spend on this. Is that just is that for cleaning and re >> that? That's for um we we already have plans designed and approved by D. that's doing a permanent restoration of of what

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we got approved by the state. Um, you know, there's that that's to cover any additional engineering costs, which there shouldn't be much on that end. Um, but it's it's mainly to make sure we have enough money to actually be able to construct the project. >> And this looks like something that will, you know, obviously for years to come solve this problem.

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>> That that's the intention. Yes. >> And out of curiosity, when the flood did occur for that resident, was that their homeowner? Did their homeowners cover that? I don't know that information. I don't know that. >> Just curious. Okay. Uh, anybody else on

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that? All right. You want to go? >> Okay. So, the next um topic is the park projects for this year. Um, we have two listed. One is the Swedes Lake uh park improvements. Again, these these are both just general engineering. Um, and then miscellaneous park improvements.

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and the miscellaneous park improvements is to evaluate all the parks in town to see, you know, what what is needed at each. Um, and then the last item on the list are the police and public works equipment request. Um, you'll see the a dump truck, community room flooring, a

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wheel loader, a fire hydrant that needs to be replaced at the municipal building, a pole barn uh for the police, and two administrative vehicles for the police department. And that is everything on the general side. Um,

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any more questions about those items? >> Amy, um, [clears throat] >> I would I would like to have a couple superintendent that this year. >> Um, so the dump truck I did have Brian's here tonight, but he did prepare memos

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for me to bring. Um the dump truck is is to replace a 1999 Sterling dump truck. It's the oldest dump truck at 27 years old. Um we're at the point where u many of the parts needed for the truck are obsolete and unattainable as Sterling

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trucks are out of business. The truck is constantly in for repair and we depend on these trucks for our daily operations. Most more more importantly, they are needed during snow storms and emergencies such as plowing, salting, and storm debris removal. The town has

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gotten more than its money's worth from this truck, but it is time to look for a replacement. >> It did say that was a 1999, right? >> That's a 1999. Yeah. >> You can get that. [laughter] >> How about the wheel? >> The wheel loader. So that is to replace

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that is to replace a 1998 uh case wheel loader. Um the transmission has blown out and the machine is no longer usable. Um it says we have two other wheel loaders, a 2008 and a 2000.

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the >> So, the pole guard is um a police request and I believe it's um to put out in the yard where they have to um you know, if they're keeping cars for like an investigation or a car that they have to maintain um that they need to have a

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place to put it. >> Yeah, it has to be secure for the integrity of what could possibly be a crime scene. >> We currently don't have that. >> Does the county have space that we could utilize for

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something like that because I don't think that the Del police are doing the actual forensics on a piece of evidence like that. Would they be >> Well, I think that's better. >> I don't know the answer. >> Yeah, that's that's that's for them.

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>> I mean, I know we already are keeping cars in a locked um you know, fenced in area, but this would just be a more secure um area. Well, these are all capital requests. They're just requests. They're not, you

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know, approving those means that we approve their requests, but we're not necessarily spending the money. >> Yeah. I wish I hope everybody up on council takes time to really think about these things before we approve them. I'm not saying, you know, it's a lot of money and maybe something we can hold

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off for a year. Maybe, you know, I mean, maybe we only get two cars. You get one car. >> We were dropped it down from three to two. So, >> I mean, >> they always want for the administration. >> We did that in the operating budget for the regular.

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>> I don't know if you guys saw the What year is that Crown Vic out there? Is that a 1990? >> I didn't bring my budget. >> Well, I guess um you know, if there's anything that should not be there, we need to know. If there anything should be in there that it's not here. But I

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think you know all the meetings with all the department heads I think they were pretty uh pretty frugal in in most of their requests >> they were. >> So we'll have to review these you know as time goes on and evaluate them uh as Tom was suggesting as you know we

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approach them. >> Thank you. >> Going up to the park projects what is anticipated for those? >> Well the Swedes lake that's just to get a concept designed for Please like.

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>> So, um, yeah. So, right right now, um, Jamie has in in her possession there's a concept and permit identification proposal that we would do, would just be a very generic concept with the permits that would be necessary from that standpoint. Then we could, you know,

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dive into an actual survey with a real conceptual plan to narrow it down or go right into the preliminary design. um related to the m miscellaneous park improvements. The that would just be a general concept plan with a a preliminary cost assessment for each park in town as desired. We gave a price

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for any park that we haven't done essentially recently in town. Um I I can tell you that the number for that is is a lot lower um just based off of we revised our number um sometime last year I believe. So >> I don't know that this is the right time

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to bring it up but I don't that Lake is officially on the master plan as one of our parks. >> I I can tell you that that concept and permanent identification I believe lake is included within that >> is it now? >> Yeah. >> For the Sweets Lake Park

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>> for for Swedes Lake Park for for that. >> Oh, is that what that's so you count that? >> I they're broken up in two separate things. to the Swedes Lake and Lake Lonnie is is one area that um we were asked to basically break out separately and then they have like fonts uh Conroe

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um now I'm drawing a blank on all the parkame >> yeah Notre Dame like basically every other park but you know DCP finishing DCP um basically every other park >> one last week improvement that is what

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the mayor is that what we talked about what you had envisioned down there. Is that >> Yeah, we took a walk down there. It's just basically revitalizing the area. It's not >> Yeah, we w remember we walked that last year. Is that what we're what you're looking at here? >> Yep. >> Okay. >> So, can someone fill me in on that?

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>> Well, we're looking at proofs of parking. Uh Mary, you want to take it or >> so? Actually, you know my concept. >> Did did I uh somebody in my office probably drew up. Um, just generally speaking, it's it's going to be a general concept. If there's a parking or

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if there's a fire pit that you guys want to do in the area, basically sprucing up uh the location. Um, the big thing is going to be we have to identify the permits as well. So then you're going to see what the lead times are, how you can phase it, what grant opportunities you can potentially go after. So that that's the purpose of the initial phase with

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that. Um, you know, it could be, hey, this is this doesn't make sense this year. It's going to be a heck of a lot bigger of a project. and then you you sparse it out or or you you know table it. >> The other thing we have to look at is the drainage issues down there. >> That road just keeps washing away and

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people keep driving through it. The other problem is is if you've spent any time at Lake Lonnie and I know with the green team that you have >> um there's no stones or asphalt or anything out there and kids keep going out there and doing donuts and tearing the parking lots up and they keep

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>> that's why we asked for the gates to be locked that night. They do it during the day. >> Trust me. I was there the other day. This guy comes ripping through and happened to be a police car sitting right there. Perfect. >> That was it was a good one. >> Um well I think you know the concept and

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you know the mayor and I agree with him is to improve that area by you know improve surface area for parking because it's Yeah. You know how much messy it is now. >> We're using it a lot more now. >> Yeah. As well as maybe a fishing pier or somewhere to have kaying things like

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that. passive recreation, you know, nothing uh no no uh ferris wheels or anything like that. >> Yeah, we're not looking to disturb the area. We're just trying to make it more user friendly. I would love to see and I know Barnes I brought it up with you a long time ago about putting the kind of

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rentable kayak stand that lake has apparently now they have two of them >> and a little >> that was that was part of our concept was a a little fishing pier that goes out off of the the one point just past the beach

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>> having a kayak there that can be rented >> I think >> I would rent Okay. Anybody else on that on the capital budget? >> All right. >> Well, we still have sewer. >> We have to go you have to go through the other

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>> and we have sewer capital, too. But um just real quick back to the general capital. So, I just want to make sure we are we asking are we bringing this back to another meeting because I just have concerns about especially seven South

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Bridge and 82 Mil Road. Um, even though we don't like to do, you know, separate ordinances, I'd like to do one big one, but, you know, these residents have been waiting for a significant period of time to do these improvements. So, I mean, can we get an okay to move forward on

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them because it's still going to be like, you know, a little bit of time before because we got two months, you know, first reading, second reading, and 20 days. >> Um, so we delay some of these projects. >> Problem moving through. >> Okay. Are those two projects you're talking?

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>> So I mean specifically Gainesville Road and seven South. >> Um and then I don't know >> I mean how what about the 2026 road? >> No 26 road program. We just started design on that that that we can I mean if that has to wait the yeah the two

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stress stressor ones would be 82 because I have to put that out the bid. Um and then seven per I have to put that out the bid. Yeah. We still got to um do do engineering investigation. Um Those are the two and then the river bank but I think that's going to be a separate uh I guess Alexa would have been

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>> well the >> No, I mean we could do it together. >> Yeah, that would be the third one that >> river drive. >> Yeah, that has to be done. They're committed on that one. So >> yeah, >> right. >> Yeah, this is just we've just been phasing it out, right? But we've already signed the agreement. >> I say we're committed.

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>> Okay. >> Okay. Any questions, comments? And then >> everybody comfortable with 82 and seven and then the steam bank steam bank moving along with that. Let's go. >> Okay. >> Okay. And everything else are we going to revisit this at the next work session

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or >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then if so if you need anything from me prior to that um just let me know. Um and then the next page is the sewer capital. I'll just run through these really quick. Um, we always put a portion of the budget for

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the sewer improvements that need this as part of the 2026 road program. We also have Pan Coast Boulevard pump station, Norman Avenue, which we already did um the engineering portion. We did a bond ordinance earlier this year for that. So, that is a that is a top priority.

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Um, similar to what we did on Leon needed on Norman. Um, also the engineering for the fifth street pump station, the interceptor evaluation, um, major sewer repairs, which you'll see as part of the operating budget. So that's not really that's already in the

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budget. It's the same amount every year. We just keep it in the operating. >> So 500,000 would not be really a capital. >> No, that's that's already in the operating budget. Yeah. Um and then the wastewater treatment plant tank um two number two um Bridgeboro Road sewer

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improvements effluent pumps which again is in oh no not that one sorry the collection system CCTV 325,000 that is in the operating budget um so we don't need an ordinance for that and then in terms of equipment they're asking for a

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skid steer and mixers for um AO one and two um which both in the operating budget, but I still want to bring it to you since they are technically capital items, but we're fun we're fully funding in the operating budget.

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>> Okay. >> So, if anybody has the operating budget, >> yes, and you'll see on the right hand side operating budget, it's those four items. >> Anybody has any questions on the sewer side? What exactly are we um going that that's

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something you guys have been discussing obviously. What are we going through on that? >> So that is similar to 82 Hayesville Road. Um I don't recall if it was the August storm it might have been um a little [snorts] bit blur. So we have an emergency authorization from D. We have

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um we'll call it a temporary permanent fix. Ultimately we have to go in there and stabilize the stream bank similar to to 82 Hannes Mill. Um we actually got a request recently from the county to provide additional um services. We have

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to do um some structural calculations, some geotechnical investigation. Um so that ultimately will just be a permanent stabilization of the we had the line actually break twice. >> Is this is this down by the garden club? >> Uh this is right next to I think it's

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Nicholas Drive if I'm remembering correctly. Um right off the grand so you're driving towards um Creek Road. It's right there on the right hand side. >> Any questions or comments on the uh sewer capital? >> And is there anything on that list

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that's of you know major time >> I >> restraints? I think it's >> I would say the Bridgeboro the Bridgeboro one not not the >> the full element of it because we still got to go through the design that's going to take some time. We got to go to

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the state still. So there's going to be some lag with that. Um just to expand on the treatment tank number two that's to go to submit to the I bank um so it doesn't come out of um you know so there's ultimately a you know interest free component of the long-term debt um

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that that be required but um two that are in the operating budget are are there um I mean Norman but Norman we're in the same same spot as we are with the road program so that that's the way the month it should really delay our ability

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When I look at, you know, Sue, I think, you know, most of this probably critical elements of the sewer system, right? And with some of the problems we've been having, I I'd hate to um not address it. >> Yeah, it's all they're all tied together

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ultimately. >> Any other questions, comments? >> Yeah. So, if we could just jump to F and G because we had our bid openings um last week, was it? >> Well, we had the Yeah, we had our our rebid for um baseball complex. So, I'll touch upon the the hockey rink. Um so,

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now that we we I already discussed previously the hockey rink, but now that we've received the bids um for baseball, which came in uh much better as expected to uh compared to the last time. Um theoretically um there should be enough in the budget to be able to award both. We only had one bidder that had

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submitted for the hockey rink. Um, if you guys want me to touch upon that again, I will. Otherwise, I'll jump to the uh the baseball field. >> Well, the only question I have, I think I remember last time we talked about it. Uh, we're not going to have a pickle ball setup. We'll have the ability to do that in the future, but it'll just be

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hockey. >> Correct. Correct. The other the surface that was chosen uh prior to going out to bid um was to ultimately be able to incorporate uh pickle ball um part of this project for in the future. So ultimately DPW or or a contractor would

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have to come paint the lines, but the nets um would be portable, the dividers would be portable. Um so it's a snap-on surface. >> So something could be added down the route. >> Yeah. Yeah. You can put striping on that. You can put three quarts, five quarts. There's enough to fit five quarts. Um but you know, they can it can

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be reduced down um as necessary. >> So >> Okay. So it is the pickle ball surface though. >> It's it's the pickle surface. Yes, that is what we we spec out. Okay. >> Um, regarding the baseball field, um, I already spoke to the low bidder. Um,

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they understand the timeline that that we have listed in the bid, um, ultimately for a groundbreaking um, you know, basically right after award um, with opening reopening of the field come springtime. So, the goal is to have the

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sod in place uh, by the fall so it knits over the the, you know, fall into the through the winter. Um, should be played on um come springtime. >> Similar to Brown Street. >> Similar to Brown Street. So, >> any questions on those? >> Um just the update for the Route 130

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sanitary sewer phase 2. >> Sorry, I forgot about that. Um so, >> so we met with DOT last week. Um so, we're coordinating with them based off of the signal project they have going on, which is finally progressing. and they should be putting the the signals

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up in the coming weeks. Um ultimately we're we're ready to go out to bid. Um so once given the blessing we'll put it out to bid probably sometime early next month, middle of next month. Um it's anticipated that by the time we let's say we bid it in um July, you award in

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late August. By the time the material gets in, this is like a fall um you know winter uh project ultimately. So it's >> including phase two. >> Uh same thing as phase one in terms of pipe bursting. The limits are going to be from approximately Holy Cross to just

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through the Chester Avenue intersection. So ultimately the goal was to get to that point and then going downstream from there there's going to be additional permits that are required from D which would hopefully be in coordination with a future project related to you know the sweets around the area. >> Thank you.

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Questions? Comments? All right. Moving right along. We have ordinance on the second reading. >> We didn't do we got to go back to the bot. >> Oh, we have to go back. I'm sorry. >> Okay. Yeah, there's a lot of information

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in your packet uh regarding this um and time is a little of the essence on this so that we can get the sale done um as soon as possible. Um so you'll if you um look at there's three borrowing analysis that were prepared by

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the financial advisor. Uh, one is a 20 year, one is a 25 year, and one is a 30-year uh, borrowing uh, finance. Um, this is to fund 14.2 million in sewer capital projects. Um, this is back from

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and you'll see the ordinances are listed um, I think on each of the scenarios, but um, dating back to 2022. So this is um you know some of the ordinances that it includes is this you know tank the first tank restoration project. We have

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route 130 phase one Stewart Avenue phase one and two I guess um we have Leon Avenue and then the road program. Um so we we need to borrow we need to do a bond sale similar to like what we've done for the general side in years past

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um for sewer. >> All right. So we have three options. >> So we have three options. a 20 year, a 25 year, and a 30-year. But this does coincide with the auditor's recommendation, which you'll see on the

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base uh rates for a sewer. Um so >> I guess maybe it's a simple question but you know you look at the um the analysis for the I guess it's a

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which one's this from 25 to 2047 you know we have $7 million in interest there >> uh and then you know the other ones the interest just goes up >> correct >> is there any benefit in paying higher

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interest and extending our bond period out to 47, you know, rather than like >> you're paying significantly more interest if you go with a 30-year, but it does lower your yearly payment. >> Right. Right. >> And and the useful life for all of these

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projects is um in some scenarios 35 or 40. So, we can definitely go the 30-year route um if that's what you choose. But as you will the drops by about $2 million in >> in

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>> interest. Yeah. >> Through each scenario. >> Yeah. Because the capital the principles aren't going to change just the >> interest. What's what's your uh recommendation? What's the recommendation of the auditors? >> Well, I mean, we would always like to do the smallest amount because, you know,

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if you're if you look at the capital um sewer list that I gave you tonight, you'll see a significant amount of debt that bill needs to be completed. So the sooner we pay off the old debt, um you know, the sooner we could go to permanent financing on new debt. Um but

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you know, there is a need for a sewer rate increase um to help offset um you know, >> I think the last increase like 13 years ago or something around there. So, it was right after we took over the sewage authority, we I don't believe we

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increased the rates per se, but we did increase the minimum. Um, so we went from like 12,000 gallons down to 10,000 gallons as our minimum to try to recoup some of the um fund balance, which you know was pretty non-existent at the

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time. Um, but we will utilize some of our fund balance to offset um, you know, of this and we wouldn't have if we went to bond sale in Septe August September this year our first payment

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wouldn't be due till a year from now um so what the um auditor has proposed is a twoyear increase an increase over two years um and they they are on here so if you have any questions about the the rate

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increase um and again you know we can We won't have to do the ordinance for the rate increase till, you know, a few months from now. But, you know, in order to to determine which route we're going, you needed to be able to see what, you

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know, is going to be necessary to help offset the cost of that debt. thoughts, comments >> Jamie the percentages I see one year increase these are the scenario 9.2 the one I'm looking at there.

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>> So the first so year one, >> right? >> So the first line is the commercial. So he's he's proposing a little and this this all has flexibility. If you guys see something you don't like, but he's um >> you know, he he kind of put this together to do a little bit higher on

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the commercial side, a little bit lower on the residential side, keep the seniors at the same rate um so that that's not increasing to. So if a senior uh qualifies for the senior deduction, they also they also qualify for a rate

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reduction on the suicide. So those rates would stay the same. Um that's why you see 0%. Um >> right. >> And then the the unmetered ones. Um now we also have other the other column would be like other municipalities like

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we have some Morristown residents that are connected through our billing. And if we raise the rates as he's suggesting, it would bring in about 303,000 in new revenue in 202 or 2027

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and then um another 266 in um 2028. He also is suggesting that we do something on the excess charge. If you look on the next page, you'll see that if we increase it about 25 cents, we can gain about $25,000 in revenue on the

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residential side. And on the commercial side, every 25 cents gains us about 10,000 in revenue. Um I think his his recommendation was a dollar in each category. Um just a little bit of flexibility.

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>> Once again, um the rate is based upon winter usage. Correct. We we don't base anything on summer usage when you do >> we base it on January, February, and March of the prior year. So when we build in 2026, we were basing your water usage on 2025, January, February, March,

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unless you were a new owner and then we would we would start you at the minimum and then wait until the pro the next year until your usage was actually in place to, you know, change your billing. Hey, I guess there two questions. Uh,

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one is how many years do we want to go out? And what you're saying sounds to me like we'd rather go out the longest even though we're going to spend about three four million more over that period of time, but it would cost us a lot less per year to fund it.

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>> Well, I mean, I my personal recommendation would not to be go to the 30. I would say 20 or 25. because the interest is significant. >> Okay. >> Um and if you if you look at the difference between them, I mean it it is

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>> higher but um >> well that's not that much. I mean >> yeah I mean it's almost 1.2 to right over 1.3 um in the first year. So >> right >> I mean to save at the end you know $2

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million in interest it's >> that's what I'm saying it's $2 million. Yeah. >> Over a period. >> Yeah. >> And if it's going to help us, you know, be able to service that. >> Any comments? Any preferences? >> 10275.

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the interest rates down. I mean nobody wants to pay that more than we have. >> Well what that only thing it means is we go from my 192,000 to a million a year. I mean that we have to pay debt. So but you know

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>> well I mean that's just >> yeah seems to feel comfortable with that. So I wouldn't have a problem with that. 20 years. Anybody? 25 20 25 >> baiting up here. >> 20 years. >> Everybody good with that? You good?

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>> Yeah. So, I'll take this back to the financial advisor and um we'll get more detailed numbers. I mean, this was just a you know, here's the ordinances we have. Let's just get this together so that we can see where we stand. Um and then a resolution will need to go on um

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likely in July sometime uh to authorize the bond sale. All right. What else? >> That's all we have for the work session portion. Yeah. >> A through H. Anybody else have anything in the work session?

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All right. Let's move on to uh item six, ordinance on second reading. Ordinance number 2026-0i. No, an ordinance to establish salaries for various employees within the town of Delane, county of Burlington, state of New Jersey, and regulating the manner of

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payment in Z. Do I have a motion? >> Oh, we do. >> Yeah, this is on second reading. So, we need a motion open to the public. >> Motion to open to the public. >> I'll make a motion, Mr. Smith. Second. >> Is it? All in favor?

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>> I opposed. All right, we're open to the public questions or comments on ordinance 2026-09. Going once, going twice. Motion to close public hearing on 26-09.

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>> I make a motion, Mr. Smith. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I opposed. >> All right. Now, we will vote on it. Motion to approve ordinance 2026-09. >> So move >> Mr. Marorrow. Second.

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>> Second. >> Miss Cure. >> All right. Roll call, please. >> Miss Cure. >> Hi. >> Mr. Marorrow. >> Hi. >> Mr. Padu. >> Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> Hi. >> Mr. J. >> Hi. >> An ordinance on the first reading. an ordinance to establish salaries for various employees within the Hatchable

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of Delan County and Burlington, state of New Jersey and regulating the matter of payment and I could just um so these were just two titles that were missed from the non union um one that we did. So the one just before this and then so

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these are just going to be added for another one. >> We'll have public comment at the next second. >> Yeah. All right. >> Motion to approve. I'm sorry. Mr. Mar, >> Mr. Smith, >> roll call, please.

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>> Miss Cure. >> Hi. >> Mr. Marorrow. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Pedu. >> Hi. >> Mr. Smith. >> Hi. >> Mr. Jenny. >> Hi. >> This point we have our consent agenda uh authorizing liquid license renewal, refunding and escrow.

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Uh we are releasing for 18 Fox Drive. We're releasing the U restriction on the property for affordable housing. Uh authorizing the change order for sanitary sewer TV inspection project number one. Uh release of the safety and

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stabilization bond from McDonald's. Um payment of bills and approval of work for luxury auto mall. Any questions, comments on resolutions? >> Yeah. Quick question on the one on

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that reference to remodel. >> This was in reference to the drive-thru, I believe. >> Yes, related to the drive-through project. >> Any other question? >> I do. >> Oh, yes. Yes, it is 110. Sorry. >> Um I don't think it's

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Oh, >> crap. >> Probably not. [laughter] >> I will fix that. Thank you. >> Spell check doesn't catch because it's spelled correctly. >> Thank you. >> Must have been spelled wrong last year, too, by the way, because I think I copy, [laughter]

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>> but I'll fix it. Thank you, >> Jamie. President, >> resolution 112. That's the person who's purchasing the property. Is that correct? I think the person >> No, the person is selling the property. So, we are

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>> No, so they're selling it to selling it all. >> They met their commitment, >> but they met their they've met their 30-year commitment for the affordability restrictions. So, we are releasing them from and that's just a requirement that we have to do. We don't need them for future obligations. So,

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>> some, you know, some will be released. >> If they chose not to have it resent, can it continue to be low-inccome housing? Uh, >> we I think we would have to go through a like another deed restriction. >> Typically, they would want to resend it because it allows them to sell it for market rate, but a lot of times you

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still need it for your obligation. You guys don't. Some towns do, and then you have to enter into a financial arrangement with them and basically pay them to keep the restriction off, but you didn't have to do that. >> Thank you. >> All right. Any other questions or comments? Motion to approve resolutions

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110 through 114 and then including the bills and the fire license. >> Mr. Pure second. >> All right. Roll call, please. >> Miss Cure. >> Hi. >> Mr. Marorrow. >> Hi. >> Mrs. Aedu. >> Hi. >> Mr. Smith. Hi. Mr. Jenn.

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>> Hi. >> This time we will have public comment. Do I have a motion to open the public comment? >> Motion. >> Is it second? I'll second it, >> Mr. Smith. All in favor? >> I opposed. >> We are open to public comment. If you

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have a comment, >> if you wish to speak, raise your hand. You'll be recognized. At that time, you may approach the podium and state your name and address for the record. All remarks shall be through the council president. An individual speaker shall be allowed five minutes. All statements are part of the public record, both

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written and video recorded, and cannot be redacted. I didn't even notice that. I didn't even notice that. [snorts] >> Any of them plugged in? >> You could try the other one. There you go. Sounds like it's

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Red light. >> There you go. >> Evans. I got just two simple questions. Um the first one is okay for the extended inspections.

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Um like we talked before, you know, we have if we're selling our home, we're require >> Well, it's not required, but you can >> Well, they tell us it's required anyway. Every time I've sold a house, I had to do it. >> It's good advice.

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>> I think the people in [snorts] >> give her extra time. >> Go ahead. >> So, we're paying for that and now we're going to pay for the extended

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fee. I have a problem. But when we pay the fee for the extended inspection, where does that money go? It goes into the uh construction office account, I would guess. >> And what does that do? >> Well, it helps pay for the guys to do

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the inspection, their salaries, and staff. >> Yeah. The the uh intent with the funding for that was to essentially pay and come out flat. We're not looking to make money on it. >> We're just looking to cover our costs.

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to have a person go out. It takes probably maybe an hour, you know, at the most, but that, you know, covers our person's cost to go out and do it. >> Okay. I just wanted to And then with the fire inspection talking,

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fire extinguishers. I have fire extinguisher in my house. It's been empty for two years. I have gone to every single fire house in basically township in the surrounding area and one of the fire goes to a

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different place where I went and to this day I can get my fire extinguisher built. So I think our fires need to be able to, you know, if they wanted to have a fire extinguisher, then they ought to be able and I

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wouldn't mind paying for it either, but they ought to be able to allow us to build, you know, >> I don't think they have that, but I'll uh I'll check I'll take a look. There are businesses that refill them,

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>> certify them, inspect them. >> There's one in Philly. I know. I don't I haven't looked in New Jersey. >> There used to be one river. >> Yeah. But most of the home fire extinguishers that are sold now are

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one either one use, not refillable. Use keep them till the expiration date. They're not as expensive as they used to be. >> I'll find out how to refill. I I'll get a hold of you and I'll let you know. >> Okay. >> Before you go, let me give you my cards.

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I'll have my information on it. >> Okay. And then I was already talking to the mayor about this. I'm on duty this week. The judge said, "You got to go. You can't we're talking about here. And um I

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was telling them about our our best on Saturday and parades going on Saturday morning and all these people from different towns are all saying that they all cancelled because of danger of

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young people coming in shooting the place up, you know, shooting people and all that stuff. And so you know that which I was surprised to hear that in our communities that this is happening. But apparently this is happening. >> Well, we haven't had a problem in this community like

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>> I understand that, but I think we should just make sure that we take >> Well, we have I mean the mayor and a whole group of people been working uh for months and we're going to have security. We're closing off all the access points from the high school and other places so that people can't walk

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in unless they go through the main entrance. And when they go through the main entrance, they will be wanded. There'll be no backpacks, clear plastic bags are okay. Uh no bicycles, no ebikes, uh no one under 17 without an adult. Uh we're going to have

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security people at the bus stops to make sure that before they get on the bus that we're not having groups of kids get on the bus without a parent, that they're not have backpacks, you know, so people know ahead of time. Plus, it's been published. I know the mayor published it. >> Oh, yeah. We know. We we understand that

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and it was discussed at great length. Um some towns cancel, other towns are going to continue with it, but with good security, I think we'll be okay. >> A lot of towns have >> Yeah, we've had out and and we've had no problems at all. >> And Nancy, some of those other towns,

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they just they didn't budget for the security for the year. So, a lot of towns, they had money for the fireworks and the the other stuff, but they just didn't have the money for the additional securities. from what I'm >> just believe.

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>> Yeah. Here you go. >> If you just email me your email email address, >> okay, >> and then I will forward information to >> Thank you. >> Anyone else? >> Yes, ma'am.

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Yeah, just >> Yep. I did the best I could. >> Anyway, >> so I have a couple question. Can you hear? >> All right. Like this. Um, so I have a couple questions. The one thing is like so these two

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ordinances like where did they come from? They just kind of pop out of nowhere prohibit data centers and temporary modification to hours of sale for alcohol beverages. But I'm just wondering what's the origin of all these >> um well it comes in different places

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like the inspection came from our construction department. Uh the alcohol um came from a request and we realized we should do something to control that and We have to have ordinance to control that. Uh the uh what's the other one? >> The data center.

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>> The data center. >> Data center. Data centers is, you know, something that we talked about as a mayor and council. We're concerned for our community. >> Uh we don't want to see something happen here that's going to be detrimental to our uh residents. So that's what we're about. >> All right. I'm just curious to see what

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I'm saying. Somebody have a question. Um >> this just came up. So that's these two or this one or 609. Is this the same as the ordinance on the first reading? Like you have six and seven. What's the difference between the

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two? >> There are two there are two different ordinances containing different salaries. >> Yeah. So the the reason um so two items, two salaries were missed from the original ordinance that we introduced at the last meeting. Um so we're just doing

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another first reading on a new ordinance for two. It's just two individuals. um just to get all the salaries for 2026 in place. >> Thank you for explaining that. I apologize. I did not I see it now. I didn't come back. >> So, this thing is just a comment that I'm going to make. I just want to add on

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record of how I feel about this resale inspection. I personally think it's government overreach. Um I also think that this is an exit tax money grab. This is my personal opinion, my comments. Um it's a violation of property private property rights. Um

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there have been cases throughout the country and I don't have the information I can give it to you where towns have been sued for this sort of thing. So these are violations that you might say all the towns do it. Well maybe because they don't have people that have understand constitution or or what people's rights

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are and they're just kind of distracted. Things just get passed through. That's happens a lot unfortunately United States right now. Um also let's see um I think that's all I wanted to say. Like I said I just think it's government overreach. I'm very very against it. So, thank you.

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>> Thank you for your comments. >> Yep. >> Anyone else? Going once. Going twice. Do I have a motion to close public comment? >> Mr. Maro, >> I'll second. >> Mr. Smith, all in favor? >> All against.

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We are out of public comment. This time we'll hear our reports of emergency services. >> We can do them first. We have to do them first in the future. >> Who? >> Emergency services. >> Well, they usually are first.

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>> No. >> Oh. Oh. All right. Nothing today. Okay. Boards and committees. >> Welcome to the >> Thank you, Council President. The Delbury Green team has finalized it

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summer schedule. Since our events are outside, they are weather defended. We'll post updates on our Facebook page. So, starting tomorrow, we'll be working at the aluminum at 7 p.m. Feel free to join us. We'll have all the equipment

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there. Then this Saturday, June 27th, the green team will be marching in the 250th parade. We'll be giving out flower seed packets that can be planted now. come in and Al wants to carry our Tree City flag. Then on

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Monday, we will be holding a clean up along with our public works staff at Community Park. That's Monday morning. Work starts at 9:30 a.m. earlier, but uh at Community Park. And the public is welcome to come out and

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and participate. We'll have the gloves and grabbers and bags. On July 18th at 10 o'clock, we are partnering with the volunteers from Calvary Church to do a clean up and we're going to do it under the Route 13.

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On Thursday, July 30th at 700 p.m. We're hosting a kid night, a kids night at Lake Lonnie. The kids will get to make a bird feeder and decorate it. um will also provide an opportunity to make try out fishing and they can even make a

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bamboo fishing pole because we know we have plenty of bamboo out there. Um registration is required so we have enough supplies. On Friday, April 14th, we're holding a morning stroll at the Alberto.

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>> What was the date from? >> I think you said April. >> August. >> August. I did. Sorry. August. Yeah. No, this is summer. That's what they were called. [laughter] >> Okay. Um, we'll have the coffee and donuts ready at 9:00. Please park at

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Taco Bell and walk over with a chair so you can sit and enjoy the peacefulness considering how close it is to Route 13. >> Where did you say that's going to be? Just out of curiosity. >> The algorithm. >> The one right off the jug handle. >> Yep.

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>> All right. I will let you know when they're doing the signal improvements because I just want to make sure you guys are out of harm's way. >> Yeah, we're in the back. Um on Wednesday, April, thank you. You pointed that out. Okay.

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Now, I lost my place. Sorry. Okay. On Wednesday, August 19th, we're gonna uh hosting Music by the Lake. So, come out and join us at Lake Lonnie. bring a chair that's at 7 o'clock and and water and listen to local local

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musicians and if weather permits we'll have a bonfire and s'mores after. Uh I posted a flyer with all these events on our bulletin board that's in the lobby so you can check it out on your way out tonight. Um events and registration for our kids night is already posted. It got

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posted today. Um and I guess that's pretty much it. So I hope to everybody at something across o over the summer. That's it for now. >> Thank you, Deb. Anyone else? Any other committees? I don't see any. >> Our business administrator,

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>> I have nothing to report tonight. >> Thank you, >> Mayor Barnes Hutchkins. >> I'm going to keep it very brief. I just look forward to seeing everybody on Saturday. >> Very good. >> Uh Mr. Momero. >> Uh no, nothing to report but a couple of

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items for close session. Okay. Uh, Ed, >> thank you, Mr. President. Um, just giving a brief, uh, Steuart Avenue, we are tenatively scheduled to start paving on Monday. Um, the residents in the neighborhood that are within the project

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limits should be getting a notification letter, if not today. Tomorrow, um, it's going to be requested that you do not park um, in your driveways or on that section of the street um, until Tuesday evening. Uh the contractor is going to be removing the asphalt on Monday,

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putting base course down on Tuesday, and then either doing surface course Wednesday or Thursday. If something changes, they will provide uh an updated notice. That's it. >> Thank you. >> Okay, council members, councilwoman,

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>> I am looking forward to all of the festivities. Come on out, join our event uh both at the parade through Riverside and the evening events with community.

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That's all I have. >> Thank you, Council. >> Council Mar. >> Yeah, just u piggy back a little bit on the um event on Saturday. Um the RA has a group of volunteers really put a lot of time and effort into

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this. The mayor knows he's there at the meetings. Um the amount of activities on Saturday are going to be great. The band, music, obviously the food, fireworks. It should be knock on wood. It's a dry day. That's what

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um I would like on the next work session, Council President, to talk about possible solar um panels on the municipal roof. Um I'm already doing some research on that, looking at grants, federal and local um state and

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federal. And um Jamie, do we know who the contractor was? that puts the solar panels on Creek Road on the was that on the school there. Do we have um is that information you >> Yeah, we should be able to get that through permits. It was the um the Creek

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Road, the one on Creek Road. Yeah. >> So, we intermediate school. >> Intermediate. >> So, um he's doing some work on that and I'll have you know Ed, you know, we'll present something at the

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next work session um to look at possibly some things side here, solar panels, EV chargers, things of that nature. So that's what I want to kind of focus on going forward. That's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Council Council.

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>> Um council Smith. >> Yeah, just a couple items tonight. Uh just wanted to again congratulate the class of 2026, all graduates. All your hard work and efforts have paid off.

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great things ahead of you in the years to come. So celebrate and your accomplishments and look forward to a bright future. Uh regarding Saturday celebration here in town, just want everyone to, you know, come out, have a

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great time, uh celebrate safely. Um those that are going to be engaging fireworks, please, if you have children, make sure that they're being supervised. Don't want to unfortunate incidents taking place because uh young people

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aren't using the materials properly. And lastly, just wanted to say again, this Sunday was Father's Day. Just wanted to give a shout out to all the dads out there. We got a lot of great ones here on this day and a lot of those in the

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audience and those watching online as well. So, hopefully we're able to relax, you know, good treatment by family and all that good stuff. So, I know I agree with that and that's the end of my report. >> Thank you, Council Vice President. Uh I

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agree with what was said in terms of the uh activities uh the parade uh prior to the parade about 9:00 uh 9:00 9:15 we are going to read the Declaration of Independence. We have a number of residents who volunteered to

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read. Uh they will all take part. We'll be reading that prior to the parade starting at the VFW. if you want to join us. Uh then, uh the parade will begin. The parade should be great. I know the mayor and Jamie and all of our people on board here have done a tremendous job in

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planning. RAAC has done an outstanding job. So, we're looking forward to that. Um Mount Holly, uh we had a celebration in Mount Holly. They had a whole county, all the townships in the county as well as uh reenactors. They must have had 20

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>> Oh, yeah. people dressed in full, you know, garb, which it was a hot day that Sunday. If you remember last Sunday, I guess it was already. >> Yeah, it seems a long time ago. >> Uh, but the mayor, myself, uh, Zapedu, uh, were there. Um, the historical society was there and green team

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presentation was there. We really represented Delan very well. And, uh, even though it was hot, it was a, it was a pretty good day. That's all I have at this point. We are going to have an executive session. Uh

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so uh I will take a motion to uh move into executive session. >> Motion second. >> Mr. Be. All right. Uh we're going to be in executive session. We don't anticipate taking any action, but we will come back into public after the uh executive

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session. >> Thanks for joining us tonight. >> All in favor? any opposing Sorry. Sorry. >> Motion to >> Okay, let's let's try to do this in

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order. >> Yes. >> Motion to come out of executive session. >> Motion, Miss Cure. Uh motion >> return. >> Motion to adjourn. >> Motion to adjourn.

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>> All in favor. >> All right. I will see everybody. Are you coming Saturday? >> Yeah.