So one and I'm going to go ahead and call the uh Destin City Council meeting to order for November 3rd, 2025. We're going to start out with the invocation from Pastor Kevin W. Romans chapter 13, let everyone be
subject to the governing authorities, for there's no authority except that which has been established by God. The authorities that exist have been established by God. This is the word of the Lord. Thanks be to God. We pray.
Gracious God, heavenly father, from you comes all due rule and authority over the nations and states and cities of the world for the punishment of evildoers and the praises of those who do well. We humbly ask you to graciously regard
these your servants in our city of destin. These who make and administer and judge the affairs of this city. Look with mercy upon them and grant them to bear the authority you've given them according to your command. Enlighten and defend them and give them wisdom and
understanding that under their reasoned and peaceable governance your people may be guarded and directed in righteousness, quietness and unity. Protect and prolong their lives that we with them may show forth the praise of your holy name. We pray this in the name
of him who is fully God, born fully man, to live the perfect life, to die the perfect sacrifice, to rise from the dead, the perfect resurrection and life, your son and Savior from sin, ascended to heaven, and to return the last day to
judge the living and the dead, Jesus Christ. Amen. >> Amen. >> You'll join me in the pledge of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One
nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay. I would ask everybody to silence your phones or your watches or your watches and your phones and council will open the floor. Are there any changes to
the agenda? I'd like to pull 3D if we could, please. >> Okay. Pull 3D. Any other changes? Okay. Can I get a motion to approve the
agenda as moved? Okay. Second. >> All right. >> Second. Sorry, I didn't have >> That's okay. >> No other comment. Let's go ahead and call the vote. Mr. Bagby, can you do a roll call?
>> Hold on. >> You want to do a roll call? >> We're going to set up for uh >> Oh, cuz it's not there. Okay. All right, Mr. Braden. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. Yes.
All right. Now, we will uh go ahead and do the public comments. I'm sorry. We'll uh approve the agenda minus a 3D which we just did. Now we'll do the public comments. I'll start over here on my right, y'all's left. We got a
whole room full of people here tonight. Nobody wants >> We have one. >> Oh, go ahead. Come on up. >> More flooding. Don Dallas, 442 Snapper Drive. Uh, I appreciate the city coming by here and trying to fix my flooding problem,
which has been going on for going on four years now. Uh, what they did, I appreciate it, but it didn't work. Um, I had 8T of water about that deep in my garage. My neighbor to the north of me
had five feet. They're military. Okay. Uh the fix ruined my carpet. I had nice carpeted there to go in my my hot rod. My wife's new car. Ruined it. I throwed it on the curb today. It was musty, mild, dewy,
all that mess. I got appliances in the garage. Unfortunately, that's the way the house came. Water's getting under my appliances. So, what happens with salt water and metal? It rust. My appliances are new. I filled out a form over a year ago. It
was sitting over here, a grease board thing. Some gal was up here, I think, from the city or somewhere. She said, "Put down your name and address. Circle it. Tell me what's going on, and we're going to get a a grant to fix it." Ain't heard a word.
Uh, I hadn't heard a word. Benning Drive, which is the next east to me, the next street, that was done in 2017. This uh city got 3 whatever 67 million from Florida fish and wildlife to fix
the streets for flooding. They did every street except for mine. They did nothing. All they did was cut a couple of swolls on the west side of the street. So I've been fighting this for almost four years. Uh if the city ran out of money then I
never can get answer where the money go. Nobody I don't know. I wasn't here then. I don't know. That's okay. Where'd the money go? Can't get that answer. All right. They ran out of money. Then the next thing they should have done when they got more money appropriated, they should have fixed my street, which means
digging out the middle, putting those grates in there, the big grates like they do on bending. You put the pipes underneath the ground and run it and the swallows and run it down there to keep them flooding my house. We're in the bottom. My neighbor used to be a a
retired uh colonel from the army. He was very uh up on the uh he did Katrina. We are sitting in it like a he called it a teacup. My my street runs uh let's see north and
south. Wanita runs yeah east and west. So all the water from one need hits me. I'm getting all the water off of Kelly. of getting all the water off of uh uh Snapper Drive because the street wasn't wasn't fixed. They said they don't have the money. So,
what I think they ought done back then in 2017 was to go ahead and the next project you get instead of buy land or pave this, you know, the walk-in pass or whatever. That's all good, but fix my street, but I don't flood. Okay? Uh they
always find money for Y'all know what the money's going to. I don't have to sit there and ramble it off because I've been doing it for three years. You know, 9 million here, 165. The SIS just give us 83 point something million for the harbor. Everything's the harbor. Everything's this. Everything's except
for my doggone street. This I want this on record. This is a safety and health issue. I'm telling you, mold, mildew, me and my wife falls in that garage or we fall in that driveway, y'all liable. I was out there
at 3:30 the other morning when we had that last little diluish stand in my driveway by the sidewalk with water up to my ankles like a river going down through there. Okay, that's how bad it is. And it don't take that long to do it.
Okay. And probably the last thing is I bought this house because it wasn't in a flood zone. Plus, it wasn't a HOA. I don't like neither one of them. Well, guess what? my flood insurance, which we took out uh six years ago, 400 bucks.
Now it's $800 a year. Got to have flood insurance because my garage keeps flooding. So, I'm asking y'all, you always find money for the parks or for this or for that or for the harbor gets money. Everybody gets money except for Snapper Drive. We got to fix it, guys
and gals. I'm telling you, it's ruined my my house. Ruined my life. So, anything you can do, I mean, get a grant, you know, to fix it. You get grants for everything. Fix our street. That's all I'm asking. Thank you.
>> Any other public comment? >> Yes, sir. >> Name and address, please. >> Sid Potter, 536 Wanita Avenue. Destin I've mentioned this to the city a couple times. I went by on the 26th of September of this year and told the city
about the corner of Anderson and Wanita. That'd be the northwest corner of my property. The asphalt is coming up in the size of Coke cans. Big chunks. Kids ride their bikes up and down that street all the
time. Mamas walk their babies in the carriages. It's a kid-friendly neighborhood. Little girl fell down the other day. Hit the asphalt that was torn up. I reported this 40 days ago. It's not that big a piece. It's only about 3
foot by about two foot that needs to be reassed. If the city can't afford to do it, I'll do it and send you the bill because this is a safety issue, not a anything else other than safety.
So, I wish that could be addressed. It would take maybe an hour. Okay. Thank you. I appreciate that. Just a point of interest. City of Dest has always been on Southern Living and Forb's top five destinations.
Guess what? We're not there anymore. Not even close. Guess who took our slot? Panama City. Why did Panama City? Because they cleaned their city up. I find what's happening I've been here
since 1978. And what's happening to the city is almost a travesty. We got more people here. The infrastructure is is overloaded. You all know that. You keep building and it's gonna it's going to get worse. This is a little sliver of sand. I don't know if
you all were here for opal. What happens in opal? If we had an opal here in July, it would be like Michael when it hit Mexico Beach because you couldn't get the people out here fast enough. There's no way. There's also another thing is called
clean up the city. Most of the cities around us are doing it. clean up the city. We've got people in our neighborhood that have got box trucks parked in their driveways, construction equipment, running businesses out of their business, their homes, and I spoke
to uh gentlemen tonight and I know how to address that, but it really needs to be looked at. We've got things in this town that don't belong in residential neighborhoods. Thank you,
>> sir. Any other public comment? Sure. Come on. Okay. We don't understand my right, y'all's left. We're going the other direction here, but Okay. Press the button and give us your name and your address. All right. Ricky Lyn
Grant Jr. and uh 175 Main Street, General Delivery, USPS. Uh I was just going to kind of talk about my license in real estate. I'm a real estate agent and I'm on the road to being a broker. So I got 22 more months
of being affiliated with Destin one realy or realy one Destin, you know. So 22 more months and then I'm going to do the I guess in a year kind of do the 72-hour broker exam and trying to get three branch offices. So
I always like to just, you know, talk about my license and keep it fresh. So, uh I I'm I'm thinking more non-representation, you know, maybe non-representation and uh kind of just manage the transaction
that way. But I'm always open to help out wherever I can. And uh I guess it's been a I try to do this once a quarter cuz you know it it helps. I've been coming here ever since, you know, I've been been in Destin and it's nice. So, I
try to just be open and uh be nice and, you know, try to keep my name uh front and center. And so, I got my website, you know, working on the website www. rickylandrantjr.com and just trying to stay up to date on
all the laws and practices and in the Florida, you know, with the Florida Real Estate Commission and the Department of Business and Professional Regulation. So, it's going well and uh you just try to stay stay at an even pace. I guess I
got a minute and 26. I want to utilize all the I guess my public speaking abilities, but uh yeah, other than that, uh it's nice to be here in Destin, the world's luckiest fishing village in the the Northwest Florida and uh you know,
PCB or whatever and uh all the way to Fort Walton Beach. But uh uh yeah, then I guess I got my Google ads. So hopefully, man, everything just kind of keeps going at this pace and you know, just kind of just it's pretty simple to me. It's really simple. It's nothing
complicated. I feel like I can do everything I'm setting out to do and everybody is really nice and you know, so I think it'll work out. But uh you know, I appreciate you all for your help and your time and you know, we got to be neighbors, I
guess. So you know where I am, I guess, if you need me. But uh yeah, I guess this is just my quarterly quarterly thing to do with government. So I'll be I'll be here if you need me. >> Thank you very much, sir.
>> Yes, sir. My name is Michael Vaname. I'm at 3898 Gulf Mist Court, Teston, Florida. Uh, my neighbor sent an email to the council this morning at 6:46 a.m. concerning a basketball goal that was erected by our neighbor on public property on the
easement and the goal and the uh, net in the backboard actually overhang the public right away. Uh, I filed a complaint through the code enforcement people in Destin and a half ago and they went and said this is a clear illegal
violation and it's got to be removed. I uh that gave him till October 28th 29th to do that to remove the basketball goal which has a concrete foundation that he put in there. Uh I called on the 29th to code enforcement to find out the status
of that and the code enforcement people said that the neighbor asked for a 30-day extension because he was going to solicit the council to get ask for a waiver so he could keep that goal on the property. Now, my neighbor who sent the letter would be here, but since the uh
since the code violation was issued, my neighbor and that neighbor had a confrontation and the neighbor that wrote this issued a uh got an injunction issued so they can't be in the same room together. And we thought that guy was going to be here to solicit
a waiver or request waivers so they could put the goal in there. So, I don't know if you all have seen the uh email yet. It was from a Brett Helter um Helton. Brett Helton and he lives next door at 39 38.99 Golf Miss Court
and the other neighbor with the goal is at 38 38 96 G Miss Court. So, we're I'm in the middle between the two. So, I'm here speaking for Brett and uh we just don't want the council to authorize this,
which is a violation of the code to pre precedent on the the loveliness of our neighborhood that we live in. Basically, that's it. >> Okay. The >> golf winds court, >> golf court. >> Yeah. And I sir, I would just tell you and your neighbor that anything that
we're going to vote on or consider will be on the agenda. And you can access the agenda either on the Facebook page or on the city's website. And M Tamara will, >> you know, if it's not on there, we're not voting on it. >> Okay. How do you get it on there?
>> You see that guy right there. >> Okay. >> Or you see the city manager and he tells that guy right there to put it on the agenda. >> Okay. I'll give you the letter. Okay. Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. >> Any other public comment?
Seeing none, I'm going to go ahead and close the public comment. Uh let's go ahead and uh vote on you. We pulled 3D, right? Just 3D. All right. Let's go ahead and vote on the consent agenda. Do I have a motion?
>> Move to approve. >> Minus 3D. Any second? >> I'll second. >> Any comment? Okay, we'll do a roll call. Uh we'll start with Mr. Schmidt down on this end. >> Mr. Mayor, just for procedure, is there
a reason why we're not using our voting thing? And is there a reason why we can't just raise our hand rather than go down the line? >> We're not set up for uh Mr. Bagby >> because I'm I don't have access to >> the mayor prom should be chairing the
meeting. That's uh council member Destin. He's coming tonight, but he's going to be a little bit late. Yep. And so, uh, council member Bagby is jumping in at the last minute and so it is not set up for him and that's why you are doing votes that are not electronic. >> Boom.
>> And can we raise our hand versus going down the line or is that a common practice? >> Better for the clerk if you vocalize it because he's taking minutes and recording the sound. >> Okay. >> Yes. Curious. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Yes.
Yes. >> Traml. Yes. Yes. >> Now we'll uh Mr. Braden, you want to get pull 3D here? So, let's just 3D. The Dustin Fish Fleet Second Amendment to the repairing rights is I I know we
talked about this a while back, but I didn't think that we could do a there couldn't be a 150 180year lease on something or did I just misunderstand that? This was Yeah, this was approved um with
the settlement agreement on January 6th of this year and um it will extend it 99 years from where it's at. >> So I guess >> Council Member Bagby, can we possibly just take a five minute break?
>> Sure, we'll take a five minute break. Okay, we're going to go ahead and go back into session. Um, >> it hasn't been five minutes. I need two more minutes. >> I know you need two more minutes. Nice try, >> Mr. Braden. >> Yeah, I'll make a motion to approve 3D on the consent agenda. >> Okay, >> I'll second that.
>> All right. I have a motion in a second. Mr. Braden, we'll start with you since it's your motion. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay, that passes unanimously and we will turn it over to the city manager for 4A.
>> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Pro Tim, Tim, what whatever you may be. Um item 4 A is regarding the Cross Town Connector uh phase 2 request for bids uh which is ready to go on the street uh with um
with your approval uh with two slide amendments. One, we needed to adjust the times that was brought to our attention uh during one of our briefings today that we needed to make sure the times in the procurement documents reflected the times allowed for construction um
per our code. So that adjustment will be made. And second, we will insert some language to ensure that the U drainage uh components, the underground tubes are being put in will be protected during the construction construction process. So we'll get that language added in
there to make sure those provisions are um adhered to as well. So subject to your approval, we'll get it on the street tomorrow. >> Okay. Is there a motion? I'll make the recommended motion that the council approve RFB25-17-
CM with those adjustments that were just mentioned. >> Second. Is there a second? I'm >> second. >> Okay, we have a motion and a second. Uh, council discussion any. All right, seeing none, we'll call
the question. All in favor, Miss Breen, we'll start down with you. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Passes unanimously. >> Thank you, council. Next item is 4B. Uh
for information, this is a land development code rewrite timeline. We, as you know, we've been dealing with this for some time. Uh so in an effort to uh get our some guard rails around this process, I met with our staff and
asked them to please come up with a time frame that while it may be aggressive that's attainable and prior to bringing it to you tonight uh as information we don't need any action but uh to I wanted some assurance that we can meet
the timelines that was spelled out in this u table that you And to the person uh that's in planning that's working on this, we did agree that it was while aggressive, it was attainable. So I present to you tonight
a a timeline that we will be um moving forward with and hope the timeliness of getting this land development code rewrite completed. Uh looks like about June time frame. Can something come off the rails? Certainly. But we'll keep you apprised to where we are in the process
as we move along. Item 4 C um is a update on the community rating system uh for particularly in the draft repetitive loss analysis. Um and it's the only reason we're bringing it tonight is you'd ask us at the first meeting in October to bring back a
report. However, due to the government shutdown and the requirements of the um that there a a community assistance visit um be performed in this process
um and we had that visit scheduled for October the 22nd. Again, government shutdown, so they're not visiting anyone. So, we're waiting for the government to reopen so that we can get that visit scheduled and we can uh continue with the process. But what we
will work on is identifying repetitive loss areas uh the cause of that flooding and then any feasible mitigation actions uh that may come about. So, um, look forward to bringing you that back when we get, uh, some more data, uh, and get
the visit that's required, uh, to occur and so maybe they'll get things moving here in short order and we'll get it done. Item 4 is regarding the uh, new state park working group discussion. um you received in your package kind of
a proposal from the county to initiate uh a process whereby there would be a collaborative effort between the county and the city. Um we kind of had a different opinion of whether it should be a sunshine
covered group or not. Um and based on that conversation that we've had with the county, they withdrew the um request that we take action to participate in it. So, um I know Miss Cop has had some conversation with some of the folks there that she may want to offer
something, but the the request on behalf of the county to enter into this working group has been withdrawn per their staff member that we've been dealing with. Um, well, one thing I'll point out is it was withdrawn by a staff member, but I'm
not sure that the BCC has withdrawn it yet. So, one suggestion might be to appoint a council member anyway to set on the committee in case they end up deciding to go forward so that we're ready. Um, of course, open to other suggestions from the council members as
well. I actually have two motions. Uh, Mr. Mayor, uh, my first motion is should the county decide to actually have the meeting, I would like to nominate the, uh, mayor pro Tim to be this council's representative on any
working group with such staff members as he may need. >> I'll second that. I just was going to ask it. They wanted to have a meeting and then soon as behind closed doors as soon as it we wanted to go public with it, they changed their mind. Is that what I just heard?
>> Correct. motion. >> Can we make sure whatever meetings happen, we have somebody recording because uh they seem to exaggerate situations in these little closed door meetings and make up little fairy tales. Can we is there any way that we can legally record these things to make sure
we're protected? City attorney All public meetings are recorded. Are you referring to private meetings? >> Well, are these going to be public or closed door? Because >> Well, that's the question, right? We um had a difference of opinion possibly as to whether it should be sunshine or not,
I think the city um well, I know the city wanted it to be a public meeting. So, to the extent it's a public meeting, of course, it would be recorded. And if not, we do we have the right to record >> uh with the other party's permission. >> All right. I would just make that
recommendation. >> Mr. Schmidt, you had a comment. >> Yeah, I guess just on Mr. Bagby said, should it happen? So, you're making this assumption of if a meeting happens.
>> Well, no, that's that's the this is should it happen. uh then we have a representative. My second motion is going to be that we set a public workshop meeting for January 12th uh and invite have direct the city manager to
coordinate with the county uh BCC and staff for their attendance. Invite them and if it can't be the 12th, 13th would be fine, but have a public meeting either here or at the community center so that we can get the public's input on the use of that parcel.
>> Right. And so that because I think it's in everybody's interest that we do this in the sunshine and do it publicly. I mean, I think we all either met or had the opportunity to meet with uh Commissioner Palmer and I I don't need another meeting with Commissioner Palmer
and I don't know if anybody else does, but you don't or you do. Okay. >> Yeah. Yeah, I just wanted to just verify that the should I mean that's under the assumption and the understanding that it would happen under sunshine, >> right? >> If it's a should, you know, right? Okay. Thank you.
>> Yeah, because uh there was a motion but it wasn't seconded and then there was a consensus but then somebody in the audience, I believe Mr. coffee or somebody at the county meeting said, "No, we want this to be, you know, just one-on-one, just a cup of coffee between
a commissioner and a council member or something." And that that's not what that's not how we operate, I don't think. I mean, we have those meetings, but we have them just so we don't violate sunshine. So, my first motion
would just be what it is to appoint Mr. Destin. Should the meeting the county change its mind between now and January 12th or now and our next meeting? >> Yep. Call the vote. Mr. Schmidt, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Passes unanimously. >> Mr. Mayor, I would uh make a motion that we direct the city manager to set up a meeting uh the week of January 12th through the 16th, preferably the 12th.
Uh by then, the state should have closed on the property and have a public workshop coordinated hopefully with the board of county commissioners for all or some of them to attend to receive public input
on the use of that parcel. [Music] Mr. >> Yep. I got it last. Um, >> if if I may question for clarity, do do you intend for that meeting to occur whether the county wishes to participate
or not? >> Yes. I mean, I I want to meet We need to get the public's input. I would think they would want and I believe, you know, they're good people. They want the public's input, too. and they want to know what people want to see there, don't want to see there. And I'm sure
there won't be a lot of agreement, you know, cuz everybody wants to see something differently. But as the owners of a third of this parcel and the entire parcel north of it, we definitely need to make sure we get the public's input
on what's going in and what will or will not be allowed there. Particularly since I believe it would require a change of use, right? >> It would >> um Yes. Depending on what would be happening there, it could require
multiple council approvals. could require a comp plan amendment, a resoning, a development order amendment, and a change of use. It just depends on what would be happening there. >> Okay. But I think a good step is that we get the public's input. We all hear the same. I'd like for it to be joint
because then that way we all hear the same thing when we're sitting there together. And there's precedent for that. We've had meetings in this chamber uh joint meetings. We also had the TDT joint meeting which I >> I'll just leave that there.
>> Okay. Any other comments? >> I'd like to ask a question. >> Yes, sir. Tori, go ahead. >> I have a question uh for Kim uh legal basis basically. So, somebody made the threat that if we didn't um voluntarily change the use of that
project, they could go above our head to the state. Is that accurate? They can go to the state and overrule anything that we mandate here. >> No. >> Okay. Thank Thank you so much for that. >> Good answer. All right. Any other discussion? Mr. Braden, how do you vote?
>> Yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I vote yes. >> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> Okay, that one passes unanimously. Also, >> go ahead. >> Um, Mr. Mayor Perim, I have more on this item if that's okay.
>> Yeah, sure. Um so um thanks for doing that Mr. Bagby. Uh I think this entire transaction for from day one or day minus 100 if you
want to call it minus 100 uh has been a very um to me and people I've talked to a very shady and odd situation. And I would hope that the partnership that the city is supposed to have with the county that would that would mean something a
little bit more. Um I don't feel like uh they're meeting us in the middle right now in regards to this. So everything you said I I agree with. Um it's unfortunate the discussions and conversations that have been happening uh past few days. I think it's it's uh
very unprofessional and uncalled for in my opinion. But, uh, on top of everything you're asking to do, um, I would also like to make a motion to have city manager reach out to the D and Senator Trumbull to, uh, understand the interest of the state for this property
and their intentions with it. Uh, whether that be in working with us, working in partnership with the city, county, whoever, just to get some clarification from those departments if possible. >> I'll second that.
>> Okay. Hey, do we have discussion? All right. U the only discussion I would have is propertyy's not been bought yet. Um so I'm not sure there can be entertain intention entertained by anybody. I don't think
the management contract has been let either. I suppose D would do that. And the only thing I want to say is, you know, we need to go forward working in hand in hand with the commission and I know you all agree with that and I think
the commission will also. So the uh there's there's a lot of steps to go yet and until property's been closed on DP has awarded a contract to manage and uh we make our
case to be working with the county on that and hopefully we will all work together. I >> I don't disagree. I just for for spec, you know, specificity and clarity, if the state is buying it,
I want to listen to what the state is saying and not what a staff member at the county is telling us. >> So, the motion is to have the city manager contact them and >> D and Senator Trumbull directly, their offices to understand and they might say nothing right now, but I just want to
kind of I don't want to hear from the county right now about something that they don't even own either. So that's just that's my intentions. >> Manager, >> agreeing with what council member Smith's saying, I think at least the
conversation would be and give us a time frame. You what we don't want to happen is sit back and it closed one day and next day they've got a management agreement that would be contrary to our best interest. So part of that conversation would be if you can't give us those details,
at least not let us get caught, you know, sitting on our hands at some date in the future. So I think there would be some value in that. >> I would I would uh second that motion in in addition to the contrary to our interest, contrary to the interests of the citizens of the state of Florida. Exactly.
>> Who are buying it and citizens of Okaloosa County who will be the home to it. All right. In that case, that's >> any other. >> Yeah, I was just going to ask say that they need um Trumbull needs to be invited to the
January 12th meeting. Let's let's go beyond the county as well. If we can get anybody at the state level to come to hear the citizens, >> I think they will be in session. Yeah. >> By the end, then that'll be tough. >> It's an early session year next year. >> Well, that's true. But
>> and I I think we can discern that when we all attend the legislative delegation meeting in December over in Shalom. >> That's true. Okay. All right. >> Sounds good. Well, >> all right. In that case, if there's no
more discussion, Mr. Schmidt, how do you vote? >> I Mr. >> There's more. >> I just want to make one comment. Um I agree with Mr. Schmidt. um that what you said, you know, working hand in hand with the the county. I think we need to work hand in hand, but there's they haven't done that so far. It's been
underhanded instead of hand in hand. And apparently they've been working on it behind the scenes or whatever for quite a while. So, I think we need to do our due diligence and, you know, do what we need to do and if it comes to that point, then we can we can work hand inand with them and, you know, try to do
it above board. But I agree, we need to go state level or do our homework. Thank you. >> Thank you. And and I would point out, at least as best I can tell, the commission itself has not taken any positions. It's just been a low-level discussion between
staff. So on that note, Mr. Schmidt, how do you vote? >> Yes. >> Tori, >> yes. >> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> That one passes unanimously. Also, >> city manager. >> Thank you, council. Next item is
regarding the East Pass Bridge Committee, and we call it East Pass Bridge because that's what the DOT has decided the name is. And so, um, well, we can call it Destin Bridge and Motor Bridge. That's what they refer to it as. So, the council had asked that the
Harbor Waterways, the Harbor CRA, and the public safety public works committees meet together with Mr. Bradley touched on to discuss the aesthetic component of the bridge. Had a very productive meeting here last week.
A lot of good ideas floated around. Um it culminated around the idea that and Mr. touched on certainly thinks this is the way to move forward is to formalize a committee that would be comprised of two members of each of those three
committees that you have appointed um to sit on a a steering committee that would be formalized through a resolution which is before you tonight um to bring recommendations back to council. Uh also it would give some uh formalization of a
committee that could represent council in front of the DOT, make recommendations to DOT. Um but it's been Mr. uh Touchstone's experience that having that citizen advisory committee and working group committee certainly benefits the process of getting more
than just the concrete structure. So the resolution you have before you would formulate that committee. It would be a six member committee with Mr. touchstone being a a non- voting advisory member, but certainly would participate in the proceedings.
>> I'd just like to make the motion. >> Uh I move to approve resolution 25-23 as presented. And I'm really proud of all three of those groups >> to get it together and get it organized. All right. Um, I just want to clarify one thing. I think you said they make
recommendations to us and not to uh the state authorities. >> That That's correct. But they would participate in some of the public meetings as a I I don't want to say representative of of council, but apparently in Mr.
Touchstone's uh history in doing these those committees add some value to the ask of council. So if it came through a advisory committee to you for your consideration and you passed it along that would be the official notification or request but it would come the any
official would come from the city council. >> Very good. I just don't want to take the risk of being crossways with the committee. >> Okay. On that note, uh we will vote. Mr. Schmidt. Yes, >> Tori. >> Yes. >> I vote yes.
>> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Okay, that passes unanimously. >> Next item 4F is in regard to the Lee property that we're I think we're all familiar with. We were asked at the last meeting to contact Mr. Lee, the owner of
the property, to inquire about a purchase price. And I had conversation with Mr. Gator Lee and he indicated to me that the asking price now is $225,000. [Applause] >> All right. Anybody have any discussion,
motions, etc.? This does not require a motion. It's just for discussion purposes, I think. >> Mr. Schmidt. >> Yeah. Thank you. That was that was that was me I guess asked that just for some some better understanding of the price um to make sure we were all on the same
page. Um you know I spoke to different people on Indian Trail uh different areas and just brought this up just to kind of ask their gauge interest about the city pursuing something like this. And uh the only feedback I got was as long as it's
not going to be for the road that might be connecting Indian Trail in the back. That was basically the only negative feedback I got. Um you know, walking past to connect to make it a loop. I I was told about
that. Um but ultimately, uh I I I guess you know, question for Jeff. Uh are there ever like would we be able to get a grant for clearing land and putting a
outdoor let's say gym and walking path type of thing like Fort Walton like out you know equipment and there are grants that could be used to do something like turn this into a usable space. Do you know of >> potentially? >> Potentially. Gotcha. You know, I guess
for me, I would like to see maybe a report from staff of the true usability of it and functionability to see if there's any interest to maybe buy it um at an outdoor space. You know, just an idea. I'm not sure if there's anybody else that's would like
to add more recreational or park space or green space, but seems like a possible opportunity. um went out there and it's a lot of brush right now, so it's hard to really get a good idea, but I just didn't know if there's interest in doing more to pursue it.
>> All right, comments. >> Yeah, I got one. Mr. Mayor Tim, um, if we're looking to spend money on property and making parks or something, we have a piece of property on Joe's Bayou. fairly large piece of property
that's up by where uh Fourth Street, I believe it is, hits Benning, that's wooded that I'd rather see that cleared off in a usable, put a dock or something out there.
Um, >> yeah, I mean, that's that's on the water. So, I'd much rather see that done or, you know, we have several other pieces of property that's that's on the water to do something with that. before we buy something just to make a park out of it or you know
>> that's a great point. >> Just my two >> I was I didn't even know about that one. So that's great to hear. We should pursue doing something with it then. Is that part of the Joe's Bayou State Park coming in the future or >> Okay. >> It it was part of the investigation that
staff did years ago about how many um rights of way we had leading to the harbor. >> Yeah. >> And there's eight of them. >> We should take some action and do something over there then. Yes, that that eventually. >> Thank you. >> All right.
Lack of a motion on that one. Then city manager, please proceed. >> Thank you, sir. The next item is 4G. This is selecting a date for our visioning session. Uh we had proposed four dates. I think we through some conversation and briefings. It looks
like the January dates may be better for most. Uh but certainly leave that at your discretion. The facilitator is available on any of those dates. >> All right. Do we have anybody who has a day they cannot come?
>> I cannot do any of the February dates. >> So I'm I'm willing to let's see. Pull me up here. Let me get my calendar out. Um >> aren't you retired? >> I know. But listen, you're busier when you're retired. Let me tell you. I'll
move to hold it on Friday, January 23rd. >> Second. >> That's a January 23rd. >> Everybody good with that one? >> What time does it start? >> It's a Friday.
>> What? What time? >> My haircuts are 9:30 every Friday. >> Oh, no. >> Every single Friday. >> Every single Friday. come in late >> every Friday. >> Yeah, I I'll make it work.
>> I miss too, but I miss most of them. >> All right, we have a motion to set it for January 23. Without any other discussion, Mr. Braden, >> yes. >> Trenel, >> yes. >> Yes.
>> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> All right, that one passes unanimously also. >> Thank you. Item 4 H is your quarterly investment report. So any questions for I are minutes for
the board and committees. Then we move to announcements. Uh the only one I will make and then we'll Dr. Young has several. But um excited to tell you that the registration um
information sharing exchange the rise program from the department of revenue, we've been participating with them for two or three months now gathering information of to support our short-term rental registrations for
condominiums. We have identified that there are about well not about there's 387 in their database that we have not captured. So you extrapolate that out by 500 bucks that's
1.9 plus million dollars. So uh we begin that process. And while I'm doing that I'll share these with you. I don't I only have three of them because they're just samples that we've gotten printed up now. But um but we've had 188 we've
actually reached out to all those that we thought we had identified prior to this and we've got uh almost,00 who have um applied for their short-term rental registration for condos. So somewhere there's a couple of them
hundred that have been issued. So all they're in the process between those two numbers. Uh but based on uh I think it was Mr. Dustin that mentioned what the county does with the cards with the QR codes. We've been able to replicate that and we will be utilizing that in this
process. So once we get this fine-tuned to the degree we can those cards will be going out to those individuals and we we'll hopefully we'll have a new stream of revenue in very short order. So we're excited about that. And other part of
this is we get to share with the do through this rise program those that are in our system that they may not have identified. So it's kind of a balancing act that we'll share our information with you, you share yours with us and so it works well that way. So we're looking
forward to how that will work out. >> Very good. So >> Dr. Young, >> good evening council. you had requested the city manager uh have staff look into the possibility of a no wakeake zone uh
Joe's Bayou in terms of whether or not the public had information about that. So, we did solicit public input on that. We've received so far to date 17 responses, 15 favorably of having some type of ordinance considered, but we're continuing to collect data on that.
We've got ads out on the radio and blogs, newspapers, and other mediums. and um I'm passing those along to the city manager and city attorney as we receive them. On Tuesday, November 11th, is Veterans Day and we will have city offices closed in honor of that federal
holiday. The holiday craft show at the Destin Community Center will be on November 14th and 15th and we have more information about specific times on our city's official Facebook page as well as our website. And finally, our public works department
will begin tree trimming this week. So crews will be out helping maintain the 15oot clearances over roadways, 10-ft clearances over sidewalks, and other safety and beautifification measures. >> Thank you very much. >> All right, we will move into public
hearings. City attorney. >> Thank you, Mayor Prom. This is first reading of ordinance 2519cc, an ordinance of the city of Dest, Florida, amending chapter 2, administration of the code of ordinances relating to city membership in the
Florida Retirement System FRS. Providing for membership in the Florida Retirement System FRS, for the benefit of city employees, providing for conflicts, providing for incorporation into the code of ordinances, providing for severability, and providing an effective date.
>> Thank you, city attorney. This is a public hearing. So, do we have anyone from the public that would like to speak on this issue? It doesn't look like we do. Council [Music] >> I move to approve ordinance 25-9-C
on first reading. Second. >> All right. We have a motion and a second. Discussion. Mr. Schmidt. >> Yes. Uh, thank you, Mayor Proimp. Um, I will not be able to support this. As I've stated before, uh, most of the
folks I've talked to in the city of Dest are are are curious and wondering why we're spending three4ers of a million dollars of their money, uh, to change over to the system. Um, I've yet to really understand or see a
positive reason of why it's necessary to change to spend that money. um when we're talking about trying to save money and find recurring revenue and things like that and then we're going to spend three4ers of a million dollars potentially every year um than what we currently are
for some of our employees. Uh I don't think it's doing right to the city of Dustin's residents that pay into our tax revenue. So I can't support it. >> Thank you. Further comment, >> Mr.
>> The only um thing I'd have to say about that is I know a few years ago we did a study uh as a pay study for the employees to get our employees up to speed with I guess the state average or whatever. And
some of them their pay I think almost doubled. I could be wrong about that but some of them was quite a bit. everybody's pay went up and I don't remember one single push back on that whatsoever. Um, and in my eyes, in my mind, this
basically what this is is kind of a pay raise or um to keep our keep our staff and they're not going to other places that are doing maybe be able to pay more money or whatever. But um anyway, that's that's how I'm basing my decision off of was, you know, a few years ago when we
increased everybody's pay and it went up a bunch. I don't know, Crystal might know what that salaries or what pay went up that year, but it was quite a bit and it was zero push back on. I think the whole council approved it. Um, so that's why I'm supporting it.
>> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes, sir. >> Just for clarity, Crystal, is this considered a pay raise or would they actually be losing money in their paycheck because now they have to contribute more to social security? >> Now they have to uh contribute more to social security. >> So, their paycheck will be going down now.
>> Correct. So, just to clarify, me personally, I'd rather take threequarters of a million dollars and give them a bonus or a raise every year. I think they probably prefer that more. I think if you ask the staff, they probably would prefer more that more so than what we're about to do in my
opinion. But just wanted to clarify, >> Mr. R. I was just going to say I did ask the staff not if they wanted a raise because everybody wants a raise, but they did want this. I have been thanked by several even parents of staff members
and and relatives of staff members thanking them. Um so I am in support of this. I think it's a good idea and and I look at it as it's one of the few times that staff has actually asked us to do something for them and they are our
citizens as well. We should look out after them just as we look out for every other citizen. >> Thank you. >> Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but I'll I'll let's remember what this does. This gives the staff the option.
We're not giving them money. We're not taking away money. We're not charging the taxpayers more or less. This gives the staff the option of self-determination on the retirement system or systems that
they want to pick. And you know, if if they want to take whatever it comes out to 10, 25, $50 a pay period less to be in social security and be in the FRS. That's their
decision. We're not making a decision for them. That that's been the my point the whole time is let them decide. And if it's 100%, if it's 50%, if it's 10%, at least we have a happier staff and
they got to pick their retirement plan. >> Mr. Bagby, you said that we're not increasing this the cost and we're not forcing you're you're you're not forcing the current hires, but new hires will not have a choice. >> Right.
>> Okay. So, just point that out. But two, maybe staff can This is a staff preparer memo, but it says the worst case scenario is an additional $710,93. >> Yeah. So that's the worst case. But you just said it could be zero. But you just said, >> right? It could be zero, right?
>> But you said we're not increasing anything. >> Well, if everybody takes it, it's 700. That's right. $10,000. >> Anybody takes it, but everybody's not going to take it. >> But we we could. I'm just don't I would want to be a little bit more clear that
we could be increasing three4 million. >> We could. >> Okay. >> Well, not really. Three 710,000. Not >> three4 a million. That's >> No, that would be 750,000. >> Well, yeah. Yeah, you're very good with numbers. I forgot. Thank you. >> Let's just let's just be very specific
and clear and get facts. >> Okay. And and the only comment I have is I've gotten very positive feedback from all the staff members I talked to. I talked to one senior member today who was very very happy that we were allowed them to take part in FRS. Um she said
that she had been in the engaged and training people for the last 10 years who soon as we got them trained up left because they didn't have the ability to be in the retirement system that they wanted to be in. So I have not gotten
anybody who came and told me that they thought it was a bad idea that works there. In addition to that, the worst case scenario is 750. I think the realistic estimate of what we would spend the first year is closer to between 350 and four. And so
it's a small investment to have people actually train and continue to work here rather than go on somewhere else. And if there's any other comment, we will take it. Yes, sir. Tori, >> I just have a question for staff. We have 10 staff members right over here. Can I just get a show of hands of
everybody here that would like this FRSA thing? >> I would add. >> Yeah. >> What? >> Well, it's not a uh you it's not a kind of votes they took where they don't have to put their name to it, but I see they all were willing to do it anyway. >> Yeah. So, that's I just wanted to understand
before I voted. Thank you very much for participating. >> All right. On that note, I will call the vote. Mr. Schmidt. >> No, sir. >> Tori. >> Yes, sir. >> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Okay, that one passes 5 to one. Mr. Schmidt voting no. Okay, now we're at comments and presentation from council, mayor, city attorney, Councilman Braden. Thank you, Mayor Pro Tim. Um
the I know we talked uh earlier um about uh Lewis Zenuzi um asking him to uh maybe help out on on some things. Um,
and I was I guess he he called and to see if there was something uh with staff if there was something he could help with and was told no that there's really nothing but um we seem to can't get the LDC done. I know we're on a great track now to get it completed, but that may be something he could help out with from
home. Um the another thing that came up tonight was the STRs. We're, you know, $1.9 million short of what we could be getting. Um I'm sure he'd be glad to be helping out with that. Um so um if there's something something he could
help out with that that would be he he needs some help with medical bills and whatnot. I'd love to help him out. Um another thing I noticed um where the um Alwin's Island burnt down here on 98. They started the construction on it. Um
they poured a very large slab there and they did not have to start at 3:00 in the morning or 4:00 in the morning. They they were out there at 10 11:00 pouring concrete finishing it. So it can be done. We don't need to start it. Some
of them are starting at midnight pouring concrete. Um the um snapper drive that those those flooding at Snapper Drive. Is that I mean is that poor gentleman going to come up here for the next six seven
years and nothing gonna get done or >> Well, just little briefing there. Uh we actually spent six seven $8,000 putting in a design that he asked us to put in. We had a design and he said,
"No, we got a better idea." So, we put in it did there what he asked us to do. and staff, correct me if I'm wrong, but uh so he's got some the deepest swells and that on the street. He's got a drain
across his driveway, but he also has a house that sits below the road and his driveway runs downhill. So, absent some mechanism at the house to capture that water, um he's subject to be back here.
Is there a method to fix the whole neighborhood perhaps? I know we had some numbers early on that it was several hundred,000 to do a plan that maybe had been designed some two or three years ago. Uh but um you know our staff's been
out there many times, been there several times myself. And I mean it's just you know it there's the grade is falling back to his house. And like I said, he's got some swailes there that are probably 24 in deep, 30 inches deep maybe uh to
the the deepest we could get them and maintain the integrity of the front slopes and the appropriate slopes for safety reasons. and he does have a a a means of moving the water across the driveway. Um, so you know,
>> is he the only one that's flooding there because he lives in a hole? >> He's the only one I've heard from. I don't know, Michael or Robert, if y'all heard anything different. >> So, m Mr. Dulles's home is kind of at the bottom of the bowl, the drainage
area in that uh Snapper Drive Wanita area. And like the city manager said, water does come down Snapper. Water come a little bit of water comes down Wanita and it kind of collects at that position. That's why we went with deep
swailes. That's why we put the U trench straight across his driveway. And it has a pipe off of both ends of the the trench drain to kind of equalize the u the levels if it gets that deep. But again, like the city manager said, the
the home was built in the early 80s before we had that one foot above the crown of the road requirement for storm water drainage. And it just it's a casual little flow down to his garage door. And up until maybe couple months ago, he had a down spout for his gutter
that was discharging right there at the driveway. So we asked him to put an elbow on it to kind of shoot it over to the sideyard, mitigate a little bit of that flow. But uh at this point I think we've just about done everything we can do. >> So in um when we did that study it was a
few years ago and I know one point was off of uh in the main street maybe on planet had some uh a lot of flooding over there. Um, I don't know. I think I think when we had several other places in town and I don't know if we got a
grant to fix a lot of that stuff and and I guess my question is was Snapper Drive one of those projects that was that we identified as as a problem flooding. >> Yeah. I believe what you're referring to is the storm water master plan and that
was not part of it. that was not an identified project. Back in 20 the mid2010s, 2015 to 2017, there was a NIFWIF grant like Mr. Dallas did mention. Uh the section that would have
covered Snapper Drive was um a change order. It was removed from the project per change order. So that was went run through city council, I'm assuming, at the time. But like Mr. Uh the city manager said we did get a quote from our
current um asphalt contractor. It also does our storm water for us and it was just around $300,000 to install two inlets and run the pipe over to Benning Drive. >> Is there a chance getting a grant for
that? >> We can certainly put it on a list to look for them. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, also had a uh one of our citizens call tonight called me before I come to the meeting and wanted me to ask about the
uh property across from the um Clement Taylor Park on Calhoun. I guess the old Nagerian property that was talking about buying for parking. Just need to get an update on that on the city had a got an appraisal on that
or if there's appraisal done. >> We did have an appraisal done and it was I believe there was two parcels there. We appraised one and I I've got it but I'm going to do my best to remember. I think one was between 6 and
700,000 and one was between five and 600,000 for those parcels. I know one of them was the property you you just spoke of and the Jarian property, but I don't remember exactly which one, but we did do two appraisals on those properties and they were pretty expensive.
>> And that you said that was two properties. >> Yes, sir. There was two parcels there that we did appraisals on. >> And you said it was 4500,000 for each property or >> That's correct. They were separate separate appraisals and both of them
were plus or minus 600,000 bucks if I recall. >> Okay. Thank you. Um is is there anything we can do about the pothole that was brought up tonight over on 180? >> We'll be out there tomorrow to take a look at it. Yes, sir.
>> Thank you. Um that's all I have. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Braden. Mr. Traml. Well, I've spent uh just about every day this week going down Kelly Street or back from Kelly Street. Um and I noticed that the speed limit on Kelly Street is
30 miles an hour right in front of our elementary school, the biggest school in the county and we haven't even lowered the speed limit. I know we do it during school hours and we put a stop sign in to help slow down the traffic, but we haven't reduced the speed limit. So, I'd
like to look at um have staff look into reducing the speed limit to at least 25 down Kelly. Uh coming from Main Street to Benning, Benning to C uh not Calhoun u Cyber. Thank you. I was trying to
think what the name of it was. So, that our school kids have go to the ballparks down there, go to school. I think Lisa can attest that the we have a lot more than just school kids there. Um there are people all over the all the
time using the um school property there, kids and adults. So um I would like to ask staff to I guess do a speed study or whatever needs to be done. Although the last speed study we did, we had one motorcycle doing 90 miles an hour at 2
a.m. and we put a stop sign in. So I don't know if that's going to happen. I don't know if a speed study is going to do any good, but I think the procedure is we do a speed study instead of looking at us voting to reduce the speed limit in front of the school. Thank you.
>> Would uh proper procedure be sended to public works to safety to let them make a recommendation because I'm not sure about speed studies either. >> They they can we can move it to them. That's fine.
If that's in the form of a motion, >> I'll make that a motion. >> Second. >> All right. Any discussion on that motion, Mr. Schmidt? Tori, >> I'm going to let this slide. >> Oh, good man. >> Tori, >> any other comment?
>> All right, let's vote on that one. Mr. Braden, >> yes. >> Yes. >> Mr. Trimble, >> yes. >> I'll vote yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right, that passes unanimously. >> That's all I have, ma'am. Okay, I'll I'll skip by me, Mr. Beagby.
>> Mayor, I just want to thank uh Larry and Sherry and David and Andy and all the folks that worked on this rise issue with the state. uh you know, we didn't go have to go out and hire a contractor
to pay them $300 or $400,000 a year to do something which now that we have the information, we can send out the cards, you know, and I want to thank them for, you know, making these little cards and
identifying all those folks. uh you know that $1.9 million is going to be comes in right at the right time. And so I just appreciate and I'm sure there were other folks that worked on it uh that
were in the meeting that Larry had, but uh I just want to thank y'all for for bringing that home. >> Thank you, Tori. >> Oh sh I'm sorry I have my mic on the whole time. Um there is something that I
need to we need to reappoint. Um little discrepancy but uh Miss Gibson has voluntarily agreed to resign and we need I would like to reappoint Mr. Casey Jones to the harbor CRA advisory committee.
>> Second. >> All right. We have a motion to second. Any discussion on that one? >> Yeah. Can we uh make sure that staff and everybody's got his right phone number? Apparently, they call in the wrong one or call one that he'll actually answer. >> I'm sure they'll figure that part out.
>> All right, Mr. Schmidt. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I vote yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> All right, that passes unanimously. >> I've got one more thing. >> Go ahead, Tori. >> One more quick thing. Um, at Main Street and Kelly, there's an intersection right
there with three stop signs. There's an amazing gentleman that lives at the house at 504. He's between the stop signs. >> I beg to differ. >> He is a great guy. He has no reason to stop. He doesn't have a stop sign. So, the little middle fingers popping up every time he tries to come out of his
driveway because you think he needs to wait, that's your problem. He's doing everything right. >> All right. >> He's a great guy. >> Motion denied. >> Go ahead, Mr. Smith. Is there a motion in there or
>> Okay, never mind. You're good. >> People with the fingers know. >> No, you're good. Uh, where are the dates of the delivery vessel registrations? >> I know that's a curveball. Do we have those roughly? >> Do you mean the Do you mean the
deadlines to apply? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The the application dates. So, registration opens up um I believe November 1st, >> right? Yesterday. Yeah. >> And then it they're supposed to have them in by March. >> Okay.
So, I'm going to task or put a charge out there to Larry and staff that uh my hope is that come that deadline, we have a code officer that's going to be hired and it's going to be obviously not a
harbor master because we're not able to hire a harbor master. But my ask is that we have a code person on the harbor in a full-time capacity in the season where I'm going to be asking come that time to refund the
registration fees for this year because I think I'm tired of collecting money for something we said we were going to do that we've yet to do. So that's my charge to Larry and you guys to see if we can make that happen. I know you're doing a lot of good things in code. So,
I just want to encourage that if possible. >> Um, I know we have a second reading of the F FRS thing and I hope nobody thinks I'm a, you know, an to the employees here. I know the survey was done that said some of us are mean. I really take
truth to what employees have to say and I've tried to express that many times. Um, I sit with some of these same employees on the weekends and different places and I do hear similar comments. Um, but
again, I just uh I hope that some of the words that were said tonight, it feels like to me that we just feel like this is going to be a magic wand to solve our hiring and and keeping because mo multiple people said, "Well, this person
won't leave anymore and we'll keep this person." And sometimes throwing money at problems doesn't always solve it. So there might be some good that comes out of it, but I hope that Larry that we don't think this is a magic wand to solve our internal employment problems.
So >> understand. >> I appreciate y'all. >> Thank you. >> And I want to assure you any thoughts of you being an have nothing to do with that vote. >> It's all good. It's all good. >> No, you're good. Uh, and then I believe just for the record, so people that are
watching that are interested in hearing that I got the email I believe that said that the 446 Calhoun property sold to somebody else. Is that correct? Or whatever the address is. Is that what the email was? >> That's correct. >> So it's gone. >> Correct. >> Okay. All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Mr. Smith. You made the comment that we couldn't hire a harbor master. Was that because of budgetary constraints or is there something else I don't know about? I believe that the official harbor master requires a certain harbor thing and >> we we had
>> harbor master. So, but we can hire a code officer that sits down at the harbor and does some harbor work. >> Well, for the record, we had a harbor master for about 10 years >> in the past. So, I have no understanding why we couldn't do that if we had the
money and decided should be done. Um, so I only have one little comment that has to do with Mr. Braden's comments about uh hiring some extra help. A city manager does that, but I would uh appreciate it. I won't put it in a motion to for you to look and see if
there is some work we need done that Mr. Lewis could could participate and help us with. >> More than happy to. >> Yep. Okay. City attorney, >> I don't have anything. Thank you. Mayor Promp, if I may, Mr. Mayor Pro, before you
move, Mr. Braden 128 Calhoun was appraised at 705,000 and 130 Calhoun was appraised at 630,000. So I wasn't too far off but uh pretty close. >> Yeah. And and if and if if I can just
say one other thing going back to the county the park property my conversation with Mr. coffee have been for the most part positive with the idea that whatever ends up there, let's make it good for everybody we serve. And I
believe that I hope that's reflecting of the intention of this council and I hope it's reflective of the intention of his board. And um so I'm going to move forward with that understanding that we want something good that that is in good keeping with what the city uh has um
control over that you know we're not going to be un unfairly burdensome on the county. But there are things that we need to make sure we're looking after the folks we serve. And so that's the position I'm going to move forward unless there's some further direction. But I think good can come from it and that's what we're going to strive to do.
>> Absolutely. And I concur with that. U it's going to be good the fact that we're going to have public property there instead of a very large condo. So we just have to work out the details and I look forward to working with them on a positive note.
>> Mayor Pro >> I just wanted to I think I can speak on behalf of all the council thanking all the staff for the open house that they just did. Um, I thought it went over well. Everybody that I saw there was thoroughly enjoying themselves. And as
usual, the fish fry was wonderful. >> Mr. Brad is still enjoying himself. >> Rodney is still celebrating. >> Marcy, you coming? >> No. Okay. >> Want to say thank you. >> Appreciate it. Okay. If we don't have
any other public comment, I think we will adjourn.